1 00:00:00,400 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Fourteen from four o'clock. This is ESPN fifteen thirty on 2 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:08,360 Speaker 1: oeger Rick Browing joins us on Wednesday to talk Xavier 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: and NKU basketball. The Norris are getting said for Horizon 4 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 1: League play against Oakland. That game is going to be 5 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports thirteen sixty. Rick's website is musketeer Report 6 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: dot com. All things Xavier basketball. The Muskies losing at 7 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: home last night to Seaton Hall on Senior Night, a 8 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,720 Speaker 1: night marred by the Trey Carroll injury. It's Rick, It's 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: good to have you. What's going on? 10 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:32,279 Speaker 2: Ill? 11 00:00:32,440 --> 00:00:34,279 Speaker 3: Not a log just sitting up here at the Marriotta 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 3: of Troy, Michigan. Though, How are you? 13 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: How's Troy Michigan? 14 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 3: I was just telling Terran normally I only see it 15 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 3: when it's like negative ten degrees and horrible. So forty 16 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 3: and sunny isn't bad? 17 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:49,040 Speaker 1: Very good? Well, it'll give you a lot of time 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:51,400 Speaker 1: up there in Michigan to look at the Horizon League 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: bracket and figure out how this tournament works. And we'll 20 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: get to that a little bit later on. Is there 21 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: any sort of update on Trey Carroll after last night? 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 3: I have not heard any update yet on Trey, but you. 23 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: Know, obviously that's a situation where it didn't look good 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: what we saw after the game, the way he was 25 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 2: moving and the way he was sort of motioning to 26 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 2: people and talking about it. 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:19,200 Speaker 3: So I'm not sure if he's going to be able 28 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 3: to play in that last game or not. 29 00:01:21,360 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: That's a bummer, man, because he has a season where 30 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 1: he goes into it leading the Big easton scoring. He's 31 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: etched his name into Musketeer lore with how he played 32 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: against UC. He has been a bright spot during what 33 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: has been at times a dismal season for the Musketeers, 34 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:40,320 Speaker 1: and in year one of Richard Patino, it's his last 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: game at home in his avor uniform. For it to 36 00:01:42,840 --> 00:01:45,039 Speaker 1: go down the way it did, I don't care who 37 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: you root for. That's a tough build to swallow, and 38 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is for him and his teammates. 39 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 3: No question. I mean, I think for a guy who 40 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,520 Speaker 3: seems to really buy into that type of stuff. And 41 00:01:56,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: when I say that type of stuff, I mean being 42 00:01:58,560 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: a part of the place you're at and just being 43 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 3: present where your feet are at the moment. You know, 44 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 3: he had he loved his time at Florida Atlantic. He 45 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: talked a lot about that he didn't even want to 46 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,959 Speaker 3: leave Florida Atlantic. I think the opportunity, what he was 47 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 3: getting paid to come to Xavier for one year was 48 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 3: was too good for him to pass up. And in 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 3: his one year at Xavier, he made this place home 50 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 3: and he made all the fans and the people around 51 00:02:18,000 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 3: the program love him here, and and he really appreciated 52 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 3: his time here, and and obviously he performed at a 53 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 3: level that I don't think anyone knew he was capable 54 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 3: of when Xavier first signed him in the transfer portal 55 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 3: last year, because that's what this team needed out of 56 00:02:31,400 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 3: him this year. And obviously they didn't have the season 57 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: they wanted or the record they wanted. But there's no 58 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 3: doubt that his his season, his performance on the offensive end, 59 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: was a bright spot. And he definitely made his impact 60 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 3: in his short time here and and so it's a 61 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 3: bummer that he didn't get to go out and kind 62 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:50,080 Speaker 3: of the proper way with the fan base. 63 00:02:51,040 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: You know, obviously that the question become as well, how 64 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: do you how do you beat Villanova on the road 65 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:58,560 Speaker 1: without him? I'm a little bit more focused on that 66 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,040 Speaker 1: that first game in the Big East Tournament. I don't 67 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: know that anybody is going to talk themselves into Xavier 68 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: making a deep run of Madison Square Garden, but it 69 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:09,359 Speaker 1: would be cool to win that first game. How much 70 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: does that compromise without Trey Carroll assuming if we do 71 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: for a second that he won't be available, Yeah. 72 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 3: I mean, if he's not available, it becomes really difficult. 73 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 3: I think Xavier two to find enough offense given that 74 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 3: they're pretty poor defensively, and they've really dropped off defensively 75 00:03:29,440 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: in the latter part of the season here. They've dropped 76 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 3: like fifty spots and Ken Palm's defensive efficiency rankings over 77 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 3: the last month and a half two months of the 78 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 3: season here, So they're really struggling on that end. And 79 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:43,720 Speaker 3: if you lose your top scorer and really you're only 80 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 3: real playmaker. I mean, I guess we can say Roddy 81 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,680 Speaker 3: Anderson does some playmaking for them as well, but they 82 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 3: don't have much to rely on. So it's gonna really 83 00:03:50,960 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: come down to slinging the ball around the perimeter and 84 00:03:54,440 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 3: firing threes from guys like Giovan Malisivich and Malik Messina. 85 00:03:58,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 2: More. 86 00:03:58,560 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 3: I think has. 87 00:04:00,320 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: Richard Patino done enough to quiet down sufficiently the rumors 88 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: of him going to Providence. 89 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think he did a good job 90 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: of handling it publicly as best he coude on his 91 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 3: radio show and everything like that. But I think you 92 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 3: and I talked about it last weekend. At the end 93 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 3: of the day, I think it was really always a 94 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 3: non starter because Xavier has him signed to a big buyout, 95 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: so you know, it's pretty easy for the hard part 96 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: of it for him is to address the rumors when 97 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 3: Kim English hasn't been fired yet. That's an awkward position 98 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 3: to be in as as a head coach. But from 99 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,240 Speaker 3: Richard Patino's perspective, I think it's pretty easy for him 100 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: to say, yes, I'm going to be back at Xavier 101 00:04:35,240 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 3: for the next few years at least because he is 102 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 3: coming off a huge buy or he has a huge 103 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 3: buyout right now after his first season, and so I 104 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,200 Speaker 3: just don't think there was really any chance of him leaving, 105 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:48,080 Speaker 3: whether he wanted to or not. And again, he's said 106 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:50,719 Speaker 3: multiple times that he's not interested in leaving. And I 107 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,799 Speaker 3: think fans are skeptical whenever from coaching at this point 108 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: because they've seen it happen before, so it can be 109 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:58,719 Speaker 3: it could be hard to trust when it comes to 110 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: that stuff, but I'm not sure it really mattered in 111 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:02,680 Speaker 3: this case because I don't think there's there's really an 112 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:05,159 Speaker 3: option for him. I don't think another school could afford 113 00:05:05,200 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 3: to pay that buyout right now. 114 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: Follow Rick at Rickbrooring Musketeer Report dot Com is the 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 1: website you'll hear him tonight on Fox Sports thirteen sixty 116 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,560 Speaker 1: NKU and Oakland Road game for the Norse in the 117 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: Horizon League Tournament. What do they have to do to 118 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: pull off the victory and advance to that dump in 119 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: Indy that the rest of the Horizon League tournament has played. 120 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 3: Well. The biggest thing with this Oakland game is their 121 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 3: point guard Brodie Robinson, who's under six foot He's like 122 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,920 Speaker 3: five ten, one hundred and fifty pounds mo. He has 123 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: scored sixteen points and twenty one points in the two 124 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 3: games against NKU this season without really doing a great 125 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 3: job against their defense in terms of like making shots 126 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: or beating them. What he does do a great job 127 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: of is flailing his arms, jerking his head back, flopping 128 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 3: all over the court, and manipulating the officials into making 129 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 3: calls and sending him to the free throw line. The 130 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: last time the two teams played, he shot eleven free throws, 131 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 3: and in the first he was a perfect eight for 132 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 3: eight at the free throw lunch. That's what's really led 133 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: to his big offensive performances. I think there's two things, NK. 134 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,239 Speaker 3: You need to do a great job of not putting 135 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 3: themselves in position to send them to the free throw line. 136 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 3: Don't foul him as much as they can. And I 137 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 3: think you need some help from the officials too. In 138 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 3: this game, like the thriving League, officials can't be manipulated, 139 00:06:19,040 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: and the way they have been by Brody Robinson a 140 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 3: lot of times this year when they're not, Oakland isn't 141 00:06:24,320 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: nearly as good, and we saw that down the stretches. 142 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:29,240 Speaker 3: They lost a bunch of games, a lot of them 143 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 3: where he wasn't shooting a lot of free throws. So 144 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: I think that's a huge key in the game. But 145 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 3: from an NKU perspective, on their end, when they're playing offense, 146 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: I think you're going to have to make some outside shots. 147 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 3: Oakland plays that laid back zone where they keep it 148 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,559 Speaker 3: tight and they kind of just dare you to shoot 149 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 3: from the perimeter, and in that last game, NK, you 150 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 3: did not shoot it well up there at Oakland, so 151 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 3: they're going to try their best to do it again 152 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 3: here tonight. I think if they're able to knock in 153 00:06:54,600 --> 00:06:57,360 Speaker 3: a few threes early, that'll not only call them some nerves, 154 00:06:57,360 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 3: but also soften up that Oakland defense a little bit. 155 00:07:00,520 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: Wright State, obviously the top seed, beat the Norse by 156 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: a point in the regular season finale, so they're considered 157 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: the favorite. How wide open, if at all, is the 158 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: Horizon League Tournament. 159 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,840 Speaker 3: I think, you know, don't get me wrong, right State's 160 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:17,559 Speaker 3: been really good this year. They deserve to be viewed 161 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 3: as the favorite to win it, and I think they'd 162 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 3: be a worthy champion. I'm not at all saying that 163 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: they can't win it, but I do think when you 164 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 3: look at their team, they have a lot of young 165 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 3: guys that they're relying on, so this is their first 166 00:07:28,960 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 3: opportunity to play in this type of environment. And conference 167 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 3: tournaments are always wonky and difficult, and you talked about 168 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 3: the interesting bracket format, but you have interesting turnarounds. You're 169 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 3: playing in that weird environment out at the Indiana State Fairgrounds, 170 00:07:42,440 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 3: and there are a bunch of other teams that have 171 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 3: played them tough this year and even beaten them so 172 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 3: they're by no means heads and shoulders above the rest 173 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,920 Speaker 3: of the conference. And I think, especially when you look 174 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 3: at like the Ken Palm rankings, how close some of 175 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: these teams are. I think there's still at least, you know, 176 00:07:57,720 --> 00:08:01,360 Speaker 3: four teams, five teams that are all dangerous enough to 177 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:03,680 Speaker 3: win it. And I think, you know, NKU probably has 178 00:08:03,720 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: a tough claim for that right now, just because they 179 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: haven't been as consistent throughout the course of the season 180 00:08:08,640 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 3: as those other teams have in the top of the conference, 181 00:08:10,720 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 3: and they had to go on the road here to 182 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 3: play their first round game. But when they've played their best, 183 00:08:15,760 --> 00:08:17,560 Speaker 3: I think we even saw that in the first half 184 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 3: against Right State in the final regular season game. They 185 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: had them down by twenty points. You know, like they're 186 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 3: such a dangerous team with the way they score in 187 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 3: transition that I don't think they're going into to go 188 00:08:28,760 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 3: into any game lacking confidence here in the postseason. 189 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,120 Speaker 1: Have a great call tonight. I hope we're talking to 190 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: you next week from Indianapolis, and thank you as always, 191 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,079 Speaker 1: enjoy we'll talk to you soon. 192 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:43,160 Speaker 3: Me toom Moth. Thank you. 193 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: That's our man. Rick Boring Musketeer Report dot Com. At 194 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Rick Brooring, and tonight sitting next to the great Jim 195 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,439 Speaker 1: kelch Nku at Oakland Horizon League Tournament first round tip 196 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: off at seven on Fox Sports thirteen to sixty. We'll 197 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: talk a little FC Cincinnati with Jake Zivin from Apple 198 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,560 Speaker 1: TV and doctor Jonathan Slaughter is gonna tell us what 199 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: we should fear, what we should know about Hunter Green's 200 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:11,600 Speaker 1: elbow issue. Plus we're gonna chat with the author of 201 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: the best sports book I have read so far this 202 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:17,160 Speaker 1: year in the four o'clock hour on ESPN fifteen thirty 203 00:09:17,200 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Sports Station,