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Speaker 3: Two minutes twenty five seconds past three o'clock Central Standard time,

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Speaker 3: we welcome you back.

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Speaker 2: It is a Monday extravaganza.

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Speaker 3: It's the afternoon Ardvark between now and I'm assuming six

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Speaker 3: thirty pm right here.

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Speaker 1: On the UH Worldwide Leaders. We used to call this

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Speaker 1: this station correct six fifteen, six fifteen. We're out, so

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Speaker 1: it's not a three hour tour.

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Speaker 3: It's a three hour and fifteen minute tour right here

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Speaker 3: on the fan Guards he produces the show. My name

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Speaker 3: is Dan Barrero, former inkstein Rich newspaper of the Twin Cities.

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Speaker 3: We're delighted that you are along for today's bumpy ride.

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Speaker 2: If you like me a little, I guess.

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Speaker 3: Annoyed that a temperature of what is it, twenty two

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Speaker 3: degrees feels like it's fifty five or sixty. We're in

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Speaker 3: this together because that's there's something wrong. There's something fundamentally

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Speaker 3: wrong about living in the climate in which you have

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Speaker 3: to feel good about twenty two.

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Speaker 2: Degrees feels great today?

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, it's it's didn't even bring a jacket

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Speaker 2: Did you go baar chested? Not yet?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, right on the way out. Maybe tomorrow. Yeah, we'll

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Speaker 1: see the six fifteen exit time. We'll see such today.

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Speaker 2: I heard we're approaching forty sometime this week. Yeah, that's true.

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Speaker 2: Later in the week.

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Speaker 1: I think it's later in the week. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: pull up the National other service man. We'll see no man,

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Speaker 1: oh man?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Is it so we're we can't assume we are done

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Speaker 1: with deep freeze period though, right, I mean it's only no,

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Speaker 1: it's the beginning of February two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so one or two more. But I guess

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Speaker 3: we'll take everything we can get. And it's sad that

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Speaker 3: we have to be. As I said, thankful for twenty

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Speaker 3: two degrees powerpack. Broadcast today on the Ardvark, including Monday

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Speaker 3: regular John Athletic is going to file a live report

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Speaker 3: from Graceland at three point thirty Johnny Athletic tracking and

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Speaker 3: where else would you want to want to track the totals?

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Speaker 3: Then Memphis, Tennessee. Do you have a chance to go

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Speaker 3: to Memphis? Do the Grizzlies have any the game? We

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Speaker 3: played them? Beat them the other day in a laugher.

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Speaker 3: They had literally nobody available. Did you see the list?

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Speaker 2: I did?

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Speaker 1: It was, yes, it's it's it's preposterous. It went seven

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Speaker 1: or eight players deep.

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Speaker 3: How do you with the conscience sell tickets under that scenario?

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Speaker 2: I don't know that you do. It's and it's not basketball.

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Speaker 2: It just isn't.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, it's not neither. Was the Was it the first

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Speaker 3: of the two games with Golden State? Or was the

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Speaker 3: second one?

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Speaker 2: Second? Monday night? You are we doing?

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Speaker 3: I guess I know you got to play it. It's

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Speaker 3: on the schedule, but it doesn't mean anything.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that this game was deflexed from an

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Speaker 1: eight thirty tip time? I knew, Well, so is it

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Speaker 1: not on National TV? It's on Peacock tonight. Oh, so

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Speaker 1: it is on Peacock. So it was kind of flexed

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Speaker 1: into Peacock. Although you could argue that's flexed out. Well,

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Speaker 1: then how's it deflexed if it's flexed in? Originally it

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Speaker 1: was supposed to be an eight to thirty tip. Oh,

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Speaker 1: which I think means it was the second game of something.

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Speaker 1: Because I just had to tell Chad Abbott. He asked

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Speaker 1: me to do a joint in progress liner. Yes for

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Speaker 1: Wolves and wild, and I said, what do you mean

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Speaker 1: they're at the same time he said, no, they're not,

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Speaker 1: and I said they are. It got deflexed apparently, which

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Speaker 1: I didn't know. In the original schedule we got like

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Speaker 1: six months ago said eight thirty, and now it's a

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Speaker 1: six to thirty tip.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, and I think it's only on my

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Speaker 3: assumption is it's only on Peacock because I got nothing

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Speaker 3: else to put on, or their their equipment's already. There

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Speaker 3: could be there's no there's no rational reason otherwise to

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Speaker 3: have this game. And again it Anthony Edwards is a

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Speaker 2: Is he playing? How's the toe?

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Speaker 1: I don't even know. He is a game time decision,

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Speaker 1: is what they are saying. That's great, That's just great.

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Speaker 1: There you go. So is Julius Randall with his thumb?

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Speaker 1: What one for the thumb? What's his thumb dre?

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Speaker 2: I don't even know. I don't remember that.

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Speaker 1: He popped up ended up playing one of the last

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Speaker 2: Fair enough.

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Speaker 1: So Johnny's three point thirty from Memphis and Graceland and

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Speaker 1: he'll of course help us anticipate the NBA trade deadline,

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Speaker 1: which is Thursday this Thursday at two o'clock, and we

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Speaker 1: all eagerly wonder where the Wolves fit in on the

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Speaker 1: Yannis sweep steaks. I will continue to predict, well I shouldn't.

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Speaker 1: The predict is not.

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Speaker 2: The right term.

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Speaker 1: I will be stunned and gobsmacked if the Wolves do

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Speaker 1: not make at least one decent sized deal, not predicting

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Speaker 1: its Giannis, but one at least because that would be

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Speaker 1: more than decent sized.

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Speaker 2: Obviously, Yeah, that's the biggest deal. I would say.

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Speaker 1: I will be gobsmacked if they don't make a decent

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Speaker 2: And you know who's available right now? Let me ask you,

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Speaker 2: let me back up. I know because I follow you

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Speaker 2: on Twitch.

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Speaker 3: Okay, but let's think about this and maybe I need

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Speaker 3: to rethink it even as I mock it. So right now,

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Speaker 3: based on what you see of this roster, what are

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Speaker 3: what are our biggest needs? Another ball handler yep, and

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Speaker 3: another score bench scoring correct and who, by all accounts,

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Speaker 3: is on the trading block available to anyone who might

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Speaker 3: be interested at a bargain price.

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Speaker 2: D'Angelo Russell d Lo.

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Speaker 4: D LOO.

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Speaker 1: Departs Dallas you can get the zeros out, like Randy

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Speaker 1: Moss told us, get the eighty fours out. You could

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Speaker 1: get the zeros out for all of you that still

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Speaker 1: have them, Charlie Sponson, Lexus and Visetta, and you could

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Speaker 1: wear them again.

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Speaker 2: You could do worse. It's actually not a horrifying idea.

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Speaker 5: Price.

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Speaker 1: You know, he's not going to cost much at this point.

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Speaker 1: Shouldn't be a lot cheaper than than you, Honis, give

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Speaker 2: Than the Kobe White. That's true. That's true, Dlo.

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Speaker 1: Remember he told me about it on that podcast last

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Speaker 1: year that the only thing the Wolves were missing was

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Speaker 1: That's right. It feels like maybe I'll play that coming back.

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Speaker 3: Was that after we got eliminated by Oki City, no Oh,

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Speaker 3: I thought he thought he would be the missing If

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm sure he still thinks that, but I believe

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Speaker 1: it was during the season when the Wolves were scuffling, yes,

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Speaker 1: before they turned it on, when Randall came back and

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Speaker 1: so in his mind he thinks he's the missing piece here,

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Speaker 1: so he would come here motivated I would think that

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Speaker 1: would be incredible. Would that be the second or third

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Speaker 1: time he was with us? No, only second, second, second time, right, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because we haven't win. We tried to get him when

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Speaker 1: he signed with Golden State. Remember we took him on

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Speaker 1: the helicopter ride Gerson, right, we wooed him, and then

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Speaker 1: Rosas traded for him, and then he changed the entire

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Speaker 2: Because I don't believe it.

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Speaker 1: He got everybody to stand yeah, and we still stand

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Speaker 1: to this day before they score, which is still annoying.

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Speaker 1: And the San Antonio Davy game, it was sixteen zero

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Speaker 1: you go. Well, I that's a digression, though, because I

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Speaker 1: do I want to congratulate one of our listeners who

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Speaker 1: came through beautifully yesterday.

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Speaker 2: Beautifully.

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Speaker 3: I was looking for a term to describe the current

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Speaker 3: Viking's plight at the quarterback position. So we're playing off

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Speaker 3: of you know, the obvious ones came up, controversy, conundrum.

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Speaker 3: There were a few others that were kind of alliterative

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Speaker 3: if he's listening again today, text again today and I'll

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Speaker 3: give you proper credit. One of our texters said, how

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Speaker 3: about because I also was talking a lot about well,

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Speaker 3: the collaborative nature of the relationship between KOC and Quasy

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Speaker 3: no longer exists because every account I have, and I'll

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Speaker 3: be curious to get Alec Lewis's view of this, he's

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Speaker 3: going to join at four thirty, indicates that behind the scenes,

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Speaker 3: the concerted effort to blame everything, not just the draft

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Speaker 3: but everything on Quasy is endless and concentrated, tenacious and

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Speaker 3: aggressive by nature. That means there's no longer anything collaborative

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Speaker 2: So he said, why not put it together?

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Speaker 3: Why not because in effect the quarterback disagreement, if there

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Speaker 3: he said, well, you probably want a C word to

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Speaker 3: how about culture chasm?

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Speaker 2: It's perfect.

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Speaker 3: So that's what it's going to be from this point

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Speaker 3: collaboration between the Big two and the part that the quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I guess sequence played in creating the culture chasm because

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Speaker 3: I got it, and I we you and I haven't

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Speaker 3: talked about this. I'll see here it goes again. Now

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Speaker 3: my phone thought I was dictating. How do you get

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Speaker 3: it's gone on for like eight How do you get

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Speaker 2: It's still doing it?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's no, it's I'm saying, it's taking down every

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Speaker 2: How does that stop? I don't know. I've never had

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Speaker 2: that happen. How do you stop it? I've never spoken

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Speaker 2: long enough where it assumed I was and out stopped. Okay,

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Speaker 2: I got to delete it.

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Speaker 3: Well, and I haven't talked about this, and I can't

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Speaker 3: get enough of this story. I spent a lot of

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Speaker 3: want to get back to it because.

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Speaker 2: I have How do I put it?

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Speaker 3: I'm having a very hard time accepting the central premise

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Speaker 3: of it, which seems to be with each day that

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Speaker 3: goes by, KOs had almost zero interest in JJ McCarthy,

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Speaker 3: and that Quazy forced JJ McCarthy on him, and from

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Speaker 3: that point forward, if anything went wrong along the way

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Speaker 3: in the early JJ McCarthy era, it's almost all on

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Speaker 3: Quazy and almost zero of it percentage of it on Koc.

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Speaker 3: I ain't buying that. I don't buy it. I refuse

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Speaker 3: Quazy on the draft is vulnerable, and we can talk

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Speaker 3: about whether he screwed it up regarding bringing Daniel Jones back,

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Speaker 3: but even that I think is kind of convenient to

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Speaker 3: blame completely on him. So give me your short vert,

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Speaker 3: to talk about with Lewis and they we're gonna tell

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00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,760
Speaker 3: it was see for tomorrow is the Rogers part. Yeah,

440
00:23:04,840 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 3: because another one of the reports, some of the reporting

441
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:12,240
Speaker 3: has been suggesting that it was Quazy who was less

442
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:17,479
Speaker 3: interested in pursuing the a Rodge dream than Koc Is

443
00:23:17,520 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 3: that convenient.

444
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,000
Speaker 2: After the fact speculation or is there.

445
00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 3: Something to it, because I'll listen to that if there

446
00:23:24,119 --> 00:23:26,800
Speaker 3: was a disagreement there. But I'll say again, I'd still

447
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:30,680
Speaker 3: be surprised based on everything we know that Quazy, even

448
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,879
Speaker 3: with the fact that it's supposed to be his roster,

449
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:36,960
Speaker 3: technically would be would allow would would not allow himself

450
00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 3: to be overruled by the quarterback whisperer. If that's supposedly

451
00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:44,679
Speaker 3: the greatest strength that your head coach represents, right handling

452
00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,679
Speaker 3: quarterbacks and working with quarterbacks. So I think in Alex story,

453
00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 3: he has a quote from somebody saying they still want

454
00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,119
Speaker 3: to know who the final say was on that who.

455
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:57,120
Speaker 2: That which I thought was an interesting one.

456
00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 3: Yes, and that's that that that's never really been established.

457
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 3: But is it going to be too conveniently established again

458
00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 3: to make Quasy look bad because there's nobody to protect

459
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: Quasy now. It's just it's just open season at this point.

460
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 3: And it happened to Zim and again, like Quasy, he

461
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,479
Speaker 3: deserved a lot of it. But I don't think all

462
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 3: of it happened to Tibbs. The guy that's out the

463
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 3: door ends up being the Antichrist that is responsible for

464
00:24:25,560 --> 00:24:28,359
Speaker 3: stuff that he didn't necessarily even have anything to do with.

465
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,520
Speaker 2: So that's all part of it.

466
00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 3: I think we got Johnny Athletic though, dateline Memphis, Tennessee.

467
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: Why is he in Memphis, Well, it's closing in on

468
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,080
Speaker 3: the trade deadline.

469
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 2: Maybe he knows something.

470
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,359
Speaker 3: He's got his nose to the grindstone when it comes

471
00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 3: to trade rumors. So updating us there, I hope on

472
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:50,960
Speaker 3: where the go the Timberwolves might be headed as we

473
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,120
Speaker 3: approach the Thursday trade deadline. We'll get into some other

474
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,560
Speaker 3: stuff with him as well. He'll file a live report

475
00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,120
Speaker 3: from Graceland. He's at the mansion as we speak. Stay Turner,

476
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:04,120
Speaker 3: it's time.

477
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 5: Right now. Boy. This is a big, big package.

478
00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 2: Is the big package on his way? That is a

479
00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:26,879
Speaker 2: nice package, Johnny Athletic.

480
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:32,439
Speaker 3: Are we just ours, if not days away from the

481
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: biggest trade Tim Connley has made yet?

482
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,959
Speaker 4: And that's saying something, right Dan. I mean the bar

483
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,680
Speaker 4: to clear on a Tim Connolly trade is up there

484
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,120
Speaker 4: and this certainly would be uh, you know.

485
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 5: Would you serp all of them? So far?

486
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,840
Speaker 4: What I can tell you right now today is that

487
00:25:53,359 --> 00:25:57,520
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves are definitely in on the discussions for Janna

488
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 4: Santa Tocumpo. It is very COMPLI you'd need multiple teams involved.

489
00:26:03,320 --> 00:26:04,399
Speaker 5: You need to find.

490
00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:07,120
Speaker 4: Draft picks that they don't have right now. I think

491
00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:09,879
Speaker 4: there's a lot of people that still wonder if Milwaukee

492
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 4: is actually really serious about trading Jannisana Dakumpo. But the

493
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 4: Wolves up like several other teams out there, are at

494
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 4: least in the hunt and trying to see if there

495
00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:21,880
Speaker 4: is a deal to be done.

496
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 2: Interesting. So let me ask you.

497
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Speaker 3: You know, I had a conversation with an individual who

498
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: remain nameless because he raised I guess a point I

499
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 3: hadn't thought of before that eventually there's hope and perhaps

500
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 3: even the assumption that if the Bucks are serious about

501
00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 3: dealing him before the deadline, and of course that is

502
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,399
Speaker 3: an open question, it could way they could wait to

503
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 3: the off season, that sooner or later they will become

504
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 3: at least slightly more reasonable in their demands. And the

505
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 3: theory went as followed, Jannis is not gonna go or

506
00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 3: want to go to a team that has been gutted

507
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 3: to get them, and that if you're gonna care about

508
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,919
Speaker 3: satisfying the player, and that's the way it tends to

509
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 3: work in the NBA, that's what ultimately has to bring

510
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: the Bucks back to at least some level of realism,

511
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 3: realism even if they have a right to expect a

512
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 3: lot given Giannice's pedigree.

513
00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: Does that make sense?

514
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 4: It does make sense, Dan, And that is honestly one

515
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 4: of the roadblocks for the Timberwolves here is like, just

516
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: given his salary, given that they don't have a bunch

517
00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,880
Speaker 4: of picks to throw in, you do have to look

518
00:27:41,920 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 4: at would the amount of capital they'd have to push

519
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 4: out the door compromise their ability to contend. But I

520
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:54,720
Speaker 4: do think that there is a belief internally that you

521
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 4: put Giannis with Anthony Edwards and with a few other

522
00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,959
Speaker 4: pieces that they could hold on to, and that pairing

523
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 4: is just good enough to give them a real puncher's

524
00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,400
Speaker 4: chance in the Western Conference this year and especially next

525
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 4: season after you maybe make a few more moves around

526
00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 4: the edges. But I think that to the larger point

527
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 4: as well, is that there's no question Jannis didn't want.

528
00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 5: To leave Milwaukee at all.

529
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 4: But if he does leave and he has gotten to

530
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,160
Speaker 4: that point where it is time to go, he does

531
00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 4: want to go somewhere where he can win a championship.

532
00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:32,520
Speaker 4: And so to get him to be able to sign

533
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 4: off on the deal, which is going to be important,

534
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 4: you got to say, hey, yeah, so are you in

535
00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 4: it for the long term. He would have to see

536
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 4: a vision for putting a contender out there for the

537
00:28:42,760 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 4: next three, four or five years, and that is something

538
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 4: that any team, including the Timberwolves, would have to show

539
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,520
Speaker 4: him that yes, we can do that if we make

540
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 4: this move.

541
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 3: Is there a scenario that you've heard of or that

542
00:28:54,760 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: you envision in which the Wolves could deep Randal and

543
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,560
Speaker 3: have the third player, But if you assume it's going

544
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 3: to be nasried and you assume it's going to be Jaden.

545
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 3: As hard as that is for this town and for

546
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 3: this team to swallow, is there a way to do

547
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 3: it where the third player would be the Vincenzo rather

548
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 3: than Julius Randall? And would that make it free from

549
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 3: your perspective, a little more palatable on the Wolves end.

550
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 4: Well, so it's certainly possible. I can tell you that

551
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: the Timberwolves, you know, when they have to try to construct.

552
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 5: A deal this complicated, you have to look at a.

553
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 4: Million different scenarios out there just to see. I mean,

554
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,280
Speaker 4: it's very similar dan to last year at this time

555
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 4: when they were trying to get Kevin Durant and they

556
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,239
Speaker 4: really did believe they were close to do another very

557
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,640
Speaker 4: complicated deal. Yes, yep, exactly, And so I do think

558
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 4: that there are multiple possibilities that are being looked at

559
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 4: right now. You're right, though, Let's just look at what

560
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 4: we can a I think, you know, as hard as

561
00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,400
Speaker 4: it would be, you'd have to say that Jade McDaniels

562
00:30:04,400 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 4: would have to be in the deal just to create

563
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 4: a package enticing enough for the Bucks to think about it,

564
00:30:11,720 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 4: Jaden would have to be in that deal, and then

565
00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 4: it becomes a come a kind of a mass and

566
00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 4: and and personal preference thing that that that happens here,

567
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 4: because presumably you would move either Randall or go Bear

568
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 4: or not as as a second as the second branch

569
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 4: of that of that package, and they one of those

570
00:30:36,280 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 4: players maybe even going elsewhere, so you can get a

571
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 4: first round pick to send to Milwaukee, and then maybe

572
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,920
Speaker 4: there's another piece at Dillingham, uh uh you know whoever,

573
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:51,040
Speaker 4: maybe it is Evincenzo to get another piece, uh, to

574
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 4: to go back to Milwaukee as well, to get another pick,

575
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,920
Speaker 4: and and to really kind of strengthen the offer that

576
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 4: you can make with a really good young player and

577
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 4: Jane McDaniels.

578
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 5: And multiple picks.

579
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:05,560
Speaker 4: I will say that my impression, Dan is that I

580
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320
Speaker 4: think that the Wolves really do want to hold on

581
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 4: to Devincenzo.

582
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 5: I just think that they really love how.

583
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 4: He's playing, they love his contract, and and so you know,

584
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: both an Anna Dakompo talks and in other talks with

585
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,160
Speaker 4: up for other players. I you know, I think they

586
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 4: they don't want to move Devincenzo, and I think that

587
00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 4: they would also really prefer like, uh, you know, one

588
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 4: or the other of Randall or Naz not both of them,

589
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 4: if you if it had to be Randall Knoz and

590
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 4: Jayden book, that's a that's a that's a big offer

591
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 4: to make, and I don't know that they are to

592
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 4: that point where they would do that. I can't say

593
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: one way or the other on it, but that would

594
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 4: be a lot to give up for a generational player

595
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 4: and a lot to give back.

596
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 3: Is there any scenario in which, because that is rich YEA.

597
00:31:56,800 --> 00:32:01,160
Speaker 3: One of the scenarios that had been I think suggested

598
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 3: early I think this involved Portland in a three team deal,

599
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: was that at the end of the day, the Wolves

600
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: would not only end up with just Greek Freak, they

601
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 3: would also get Drew Holliday. So is there any way

602
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,239
Speaker 3: they can get another piece that at least like a

603
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: workable rotation piece that can at least take away some

604
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 3: of the pain giving up so much on the front end.

605
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I think that's absolutely a possibility, because

606
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 4: whether it's true, Holiday, who has been injured, is getting

607
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 4: a little older and still has a.

608
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 5: Bunch of money you have to pay him.

609
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know if that's the specific piece that

610
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 4: you'd look at, but it's possible, and certainly Janni's played

611
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 4: with jew Holiday won a championship with them, so there's

612
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: a lot of familiarity there that would make sense. But

613
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 4: I think that it would be unwise to assume that

614
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: if the Duff settled on a mega trade like this,

615
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 4: that the only piece coming back to Minnesota would be Yannis.

616
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:01,200
Speaker 5: I could see.

617
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 4: Any number of different veterans coming by way of Team

618
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,640
Speaker 4: three or four or whoever to get back here too,

619
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 4: to replenish some of the resources that the Wolves would

620
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 4: have to use to move out, and to get the

621
00:33:15,640 --> 00:33:16,880
Speaker 4: Bucks to sign off on that.

622
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Now I'm getting the phone ring in here. The big

623
00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 3: switch forward phone is ringing nowt here during common a

624
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 3: little while.

625
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:27,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, Yeah, I don't know how to hear.

626
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,400
Speaker 2: Put it on hold or something, or I don't know anything.

627
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: That won't do anything. Oh well, hopefully we configure Johnny back.

628
00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:37,240
Speaker 2: Should I put Johnny back on hold? No? Put him back?

629
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: You just you put him on hold? All start back up?

630
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 3: Okay, I see my bad, Sorry Johnny. We got all

631
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 3: kinds of phone issues here. Right now, We've got a

632
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:45,480
Speaker 3: phone ringing in the main phone bank in the Stuy.

633
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 5: People are excited, I understand it. People are excited.

634
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,120
Speaker 2: Here's the quote. I want to get your reaction to.

635
00:33:50,560 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 4: Uh.

636
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,720
Speaker 3: I guess for some Wolves fans they were aroused by

637
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 3: some Windhorse comments this morning about the aggressiveness on your honest.

638
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 3: But he also apparently he said this, let me see

639
00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 3: if I can find it. If they don't make what

640
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 3: I would call a Hail Mary Jannis deal. I think

641
00:34:07,920 --> 00:34:11,000
Speaker 3: they are aggressively looking to upgrade their backcourt, and we

642
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 3: certainly talked about that, and I assume is it fair

643
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 3: to say you will be surprised, Let's say that the

644
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,719
Speaker 3: honest thing goes nowhere. Is it fair to say you

645
00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,439
Speaker 3: will be surprised if there is not at least one

646
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,040
Speaker 3: medium sized move to attempt to add a guard to

647
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 3: the mix or a scorer off the bench into the

648
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 3: mix somewhere somehow.

649
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:34,800
Speaker 5: Yes, I would be surprised.

650
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 4: Dan. I do think they are having talks with a

651
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 4: bunch of teams about any number of names, and we've

652
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:42,359
Speaker 4: talked about them on your show a lot. Kobe White,

653
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:44,800
Speaker 4: I would as soon move like, yeah, any of the

654
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 4: Jones brothers, a bunch of different players, throw them out there.

655
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,319
Speaker 4: But yeah, I still think that the.

656
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:54,280
Speaker 5: Much much much.

657
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: More likely scenario at when the deadline goes on Thursday,

658
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 4: is that Jannis is not here and maybe even likely

659
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 4: that he stays in Milwaukee, and that the Wolves pivot

660
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 4: and and add a bench piece to give them one

661
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 4: more ball handler scorer off the bench, to mitigate some

662
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 4: of the bones Highland volatility and just give them a

663
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 4: little bit more depth. But you know, I kind of

664
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 4: to keep with the theme, I do think that the Timberwolves,

665
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 4: much like a lot of the NBA, is sort of

666
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 4: waiting to see what happens with Yanni's first, Like they

667
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 4: don't want to go and like like for instance, Cleveland

668
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 4: just traded for Kean Ellis from Sacramento. He would have

669
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 4: been a nice piece to come to Minnesota. I think

670
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,320
Speaker 4: that it is presumable to surmise that, you know, maybe

671
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 4: the Wolves could have gotten in on ke On Ellis,

672
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 4: but they didn't want to give up anything of note

673
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 4: that might jeopardize that get in the way of a.

674
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 5: Potential Yanni steel.

675
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:52,040
Speaker 4: So I think that they have to know for sure

676
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:56,439
Speaker 4: that they are out of the Yannest sweepstakes before they

677
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 4: look at going and getting a guard. And so I

678
00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 4: think the whole mark right now is clogged waiting to

679
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,640
Speaker 4: see if there's some clarity that comes from this honest situation, Are.

680
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:12,800
Speaker 3: You intentionally avoiding the wolves elephant in the room?

681
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,279
Speaker 5: Maybe? Probably? What is it?

682
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 3: Well, let's let's I mean to mixed metaphors. Let's go

683
00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,399
Speaker 3: go ahead and lance the boil right now on the air.

684
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:26,479
Speaker 3: There is available, right now, at a fairly reasonable maybe

685
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 3: even very reasonable price, a scoring point guard.

686
00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 2: And you're not mentioning it. And that tells me either.

687
00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 3: I don't know what that tells me, but I'm I

688
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,600
Speaker 3: I refuse to accept to allow you to avoid that

689
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:43,840
Speaker 3: elephant in the room.

690
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Delo is available.

691
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 3: By all accounts, Dallas has dropped him from the rotation.

692
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 3: Don't tell me he can't score. Don't tell me he

693
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 3: can't handle the ball.

694
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 5: We've seen it, We've seen.

695
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,919
Speaker 2: Don't tell me he couldn't be a terre.

696
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 5: All right?

697
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,799
Speaker 3: If you want to keep nas as your sixth man,

698
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 3: seventh man off the bench, there's your rot there's your

699
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,919
Speaker 3: switch minor price, and you got your guy.

700
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,840
Speaker 2: Everything everything changes.

701
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 4: You might you might have to invent a new award,

702
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 4: a seventh man of the year correct or Delo if

703
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 4: you got him.

704
00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 5: I think that's possible.

705
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, why not? I mean he is right there. They

706
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 4: would give him away at this point, and just because

707
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,359
Speaker 4: they're not appreciating it. And so if Kevin Garnett can

708
00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 4: come home, Dan, why can't Delo come?

709
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 3: How emotional would be that would be? So it would

710
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:37,800
Speaker 3: be amazing emotional, that's for sure.

711
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: All right.

712
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 3: So, by the way, is there any other we do?

713
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,000
Speaker 3: We do not think the Wolves have any interest in

714
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 3: Jah correct?

715
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 5: Correct?

716
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:48,759
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think there's any market really for job

717
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 4: at all in Memphis as we speak.

718
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you trip or what?

719
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:58,800
Speaker 4: Well? I'm in Memphis because what if a Yanni Steel

720
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 4: goes down? I can't be away from the team, you

721
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 4: know this time? You know there's all this kind that

722
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 4: him and haunt about Quasi in his paternity leaves.

723
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 5: But my birthday is tomorrow.

724
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 4: I'm gonna be in Toronto, daan, because that's how dedicated

725
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:12,920
Speaker 4: I am to this bit.

726
00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 2: That's impressed.

727
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 5: You can't fire me over that.

728
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 2: No, that's impressive. And then, uh, who's are there any So?

729
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: Is there another big name behind besides Giannis that you

730
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: expect to be don't?

731
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 4: What?

732
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 3: What's are we going to see a bunch of deals

733
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 3: before Thursday? A few deals? What do we what's the

734
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 3: feeling around the league.

735
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 4: I mean, it is it's possible, you know, it's possible

736
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 4: that Anthony Davis could be moved.

737
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 5: But you know, there's not a lot.

738
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 4: It doesn't seem like there's a lot of major deals

739
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 4: that are sort of waiting to be to happen. I

740
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 4: think that there was at one point a possibility of

741
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:49,000
Speaker 4: being traded from New York. But they've stabilized. They've won

742
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,200
Speaker 4: six in a row now, I think, and so things

743
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 4: seem to be okay there and and so it feels

744
00:38:57,200 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 4: like right now that we may may maybe have a

745
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 4: big down a Steel, you might have an Anthony Davis deeal,

746
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 4: But I don't know that there's gonna be just a

747
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 4: ton of movement that way. I think there will be

748
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 4: minor deals here and there. And it is a deadline

749
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 4: driven league, so I don't think it's gonna be dis

750
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 4: quiet forever. But it doesn't feel like at this moment

751
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 4: that there's just gonna be a huge amount of deals

752
00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 4: that make your mind your brain explode. But you know

753
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:26,759
Speaker 4: that's uh. I've been wrong before on this. Things do

754
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 4: materialize at the last minute out of nowhere in this league,

755
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,640
Speaker 4: and so I'm not ruining anything out at this point.

756
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 3: Johnny's appearances as always brought to you by RBC Wealth Management.

757
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 3: A Texter introduces us to another juicy, very very juicy subject,

758
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,799
Speaker 3: were Johnny Johnny's cryptic b flow comments from last month

759
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:58,760
Speaker 3: referring to the culture chasm that we are now seeing

760
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:02,879
Speaker 3: very apparent play apparently play itself out at TCO Performance Center.

761
00:40:04,160 --> 00:40:06,800
Speaker 4: I mean, yeah, definitely, that was part of it, for sure,

762
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:08,719
Speaker 4: you know. And I said at the time that I

763
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 4: didn't have all of the information to name it right then.

764
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 5: But as this all went down.

765
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 4: More people get a little bit more forthcoming in the

766
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 4: aftermath as opposed to, you know, right in the middle

767
00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,879
Speaker 4: of everything going on. And I do think it's been

768
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 4: reported many places, including at the Athletic, that Flores and

769
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 4: Quasi did not exactly see ey'd eye. And that was

770
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:35,560
Speaker 4: one issue that Flores was wayanne as he was trying

771
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:39,720
Speaker 4: to decide his future for you know, the next several years,

772
00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,120
Speaker 4: whether it should be here or should be elsewhere. And so,

773
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,120
Speaker 4: you know, I've got a lot of people that you know,

774
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,399
Speaker 4: said that I was just making this up and that,

775
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 4: you know, why would you do that? And of course

776
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 4: this is ridiculous. People loved it here, leve beggings love him.

777
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 4: It's much to do about nothing. But in the aftermath

778
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 4: of it, we do look at it and see that, Yeah,

779
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:02,880
Speaker 4: there was some real questioning between Flores and Quasi, which was,

780
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 4: you know, a little bit surprising them because I think

781
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 4: it's well documented that Quasi Alpamensa did kind of accede

782
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 4: to Flores on some of the guys that he wanted

783
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,600
Speaker 4: in free agency, but it was clear that those two

784
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:17,800
Speaker 4: did not see eyed eye, and then that was one

785
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 4: kind of mitigating factor as Brian Flores was looking at

786
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 4: all of his options before he resigned with the Viking.

787
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:32,759
Speaker 3: Has legitimate criticism and exploration of the Quazy resume and

788
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:37,040
Speaker 3: performance running the draft and being this team general manager

789
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,040
Speaker 3: gotten to the point where it's a borderline smear because

790
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,400
Speaker 3: where we're now headed is it's not just the draft

791
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:48,479
Speaker 3: he screwed up. He actually screwed up the quarterback thing.

792
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 3: We've got some reporting indicating that JJ was more his

793
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 3: guy than the quarterback whispers guy, which I think is preposterous,

794
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 3: but that's what's being written. Some saying, well, but it

795
00:42:00,760 --> 00:42:04,560
Speaker 3: was all on Quazy to get Daniel Jones signed and

796
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 3: he screwed that up, which I think also oversimplifies a

797
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,520
Speaker 3: challenge from the beginning, given the entire offseason was spent

798
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 3: saying we've got our franchise quarterback with JJ McCarthy, which

799
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: Daniel Jones might have noticed. So what's the line? We

800
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 3: get this all the time? Somebody gets fired. The record

801
00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,720
Speaker 3: speaks for itself. There are holes in this performance, especially

802
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:28,360
Speaker 3: from the draft.

803
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,640
Speaker 2: But are we reaching that point we tend to where we.

804
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 3: Want to pile everything up on one guy and he's

805
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 3: getting even more blame than he deserves as it regards

806
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: the quarterback disaster.

807
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's certainly possible, Dan, And I know

808
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 4: you have Alex coming on next hour and he's like

809
00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:47,239
Speaker 4: right in the weeds with it, and we'll be able

810
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 4: to give you kind of a blow by blow of

811
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 4: everything a little bit better. I will say, I've had

812
00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 4: a lot of conversations with people in and around the

813
00:42:55,400 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 4: building about this over the last several weeks, and I

814
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 4: do think that there is a little bit that way.

815
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: Now. One thing I can tell you, which we had

816
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 5: heard for.

817
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,919
Speaker 4: A long time, is that because Quasy was a quote

818
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 4: unquote unconventional hire, there was certainly skepticism that greeted him

819
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 4: at the door, and I do think some of the

820
00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 4: things that went on both in the draft, you know,

821
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 4: with quarterback, with with you know, you can even say

822
00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 4: with the paternity stuff, which actually was a factor in

823
00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 4: in in things a little bit there, that he did

824
00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 4: not win over the organization the way that he needed to.

825
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,640
Speaker 4: And so now on his way out the door, I

826
00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,839
Speaker 4: do think he's being kind of cast as the one

827
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 4: and only issue there when I am like you, Dan,

828
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,040
Speaker 4: I think right now, now that this has happened, I

829
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 4: really do believe there's a lot of pressure on Kevin

830
00:43:49,080 --> 00:43:54,959
Speaker 4: O'Connell to really make things work here because I do

831
00:43:55,000 --> 00:44:00,520
Speaker 4: not believe that Quasy acted unilaterally with JJ mccarton. There's

832
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 4: just no way. There's just no chance that he did

833
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:07,600
Speaker 4: that because as I just said, like he really went

834
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:09,840
Speaker 4: to Brian Flores, Brian Forors says, I want Blake Cashman,

835
00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 4: I want Dan Gaekle, I want these guys. Okay, I'm

836
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 4: going to get them. Like if Kevin O'Connell really did

837
00:44:14,640 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 4: not believe in JJ McCarthy, either in the draft or

838
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 4: going into last season, I have to think that Quays

839
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 4: would have waited on that a little bit, but you

840
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 4: can also say that, yeah, there were some of the

841
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:29,399
Speaker 4: things that he did that did not did not turn

842
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:33,200
Speaker 4: out well and did he did not ingratiate himself as

843
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 4: a leader in that organization, and so you know, maybe

844
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 4: he had to go. But now that he is gone there,

845
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 4: the pressure is firmly on Kevin O'Connell's back to really

846
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 4: kind of start to deliver here because there ain't no

847
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,799
Speaker 4: finger to point anymore that it's on him.

848
00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,719
Speaker 2: Now Guards he Quazy and studio tomorrow between four and five.

849
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Is that the rumor he's got a school event for

850
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: his children, so he's not going to be able to cons.

851
00:45:00,440 --> 00:45:02,400
Speaker 2: Otherwise started.

852
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, now, even Guards, he was on Quzy side on

853
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 3: that part of it. On the paternity stuff, I am

854
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 3: too all right, Well, anything else we got to get

855
00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: to from Memphis? Does Memphis have any active working players

856
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,360
Speaker 3: who might show up today tonight as a post of

857
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 3: the game the other night.

858
00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I haven't gotten the injury report yet just yet.

859
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,080
Speaker 5: I have to look at that, but I hope.

860
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 4: That one of those guys Jah or Jaron Jackson or

861
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 4: somebody does play because it was pretty week on Saturday night.

862
00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 5: But then you know Anthony Edwards and Jewish randall.

863
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:39,120
Speaker 4: Questionable for tonight as well with their own little ailments.

864
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,680
Speaker 4: So you know, I we'll see exactly what happens. But

865
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:45,239
Speaker 4: if I'm here and and Giannis arrives, it'll be worth

866
00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: the trip.

867
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 5: So we'll see what happens.

868
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 3: I hope they need. Just tell Anthony he needs to

869
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 3: drain that toe. I mean I even know that much.

870
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: Just get that infection drained, and that.

871
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,399
Speaker 4: The first that's always worked for me. I don't even

872
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,080
Speaker 4: endorse strapped, but like, yeah, yeah, that always did it

873
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 4: for me.

874
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 5: But I'll bring it up to him.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the area. See how that goes with him.

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Speaker 3: Keep us posted if there's any trade updates we got

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Speaker 3: to get to before we're done at six fifteen.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, we'll do.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Dan.

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Speaker 1: That is the one and only John Athletic, RBC Wealth Management,

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Speaker 1: the fine sponsor. He is joining us today from Memphis,

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Speaker 1: where the Wolves will be back in action tonight a

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Speaker 1: game guards He tells me, we'll be picked up in

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Speaker 1: progress on the fan after the wild game. In addition,

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Speaker 1: it'll be on the Timberwols channel, so it'll be a

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Speaker 1: combo platter of even both.

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Speaker 2: Let's make this the top of the hour pause.

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Speaker 3: Don't forget Alec Lewis to revisit a lot of this

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Speaker 3: vikings chatter at four point thirty and we expect the

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Speaker 3: general manager of your Minnesota Wild, your favorite hockey team

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Speaker 3: in the world, Bill Garin, before he heads off for

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Speaker 3: Italy very soon.

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Speaker 2: He will join at five h two