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Speaker 1: It's nice eyes with Dan Ray. I'm gelling Zy Boston's

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome everyone, and all of you know that

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Speaker 2: we talked several times and even back in the fall

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty four, we talked about one of the.

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Speaker 3: Initiative petitions that the voters were asked to consider. And

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Speaker 3: one of the initiative petitions passed overwhelmingly by a margin

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Speaker 3: of seventy two percent, and it was a petition that

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Speaker 3: voters approved again almost three to one, that basically said

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Speaker 3: the legislature needed to allow the State Unit of the Comalth,

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Speaker 3: Diana Dezaglio, to do her job and conduct an audit

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Speaker 3: of the state legislature, the State House of Representatives and

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Speaker 3: the State Senate. The leadership, the Speaker of the House Mariano,

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Speaker 3: and the Senate President spike Up, along with their teams,

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Speaker 3: have decided that they want no part of an audi

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Speaker 3: Diana Desauglio, and the fight continues. And I noticed that

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Speaker 3: the Reading select Board decided to send a letter from

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Speaker 3: and Senate leadership telling them to respect the opinion the

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Speaker 3: strong support that the voters have for this initiative. We

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Speaker 3: Chairman of the Reading select Board, Christopher Hailey. Chairman Haley,

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Speaker 3: welcome to night's side. How are you this evening?

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Speaker 4: Thank you Dan, pretty good. Glad to be speaking with

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Speaker 4: you tonight on this very important issue.

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Speaker 3: Obviously, Well, I think it is an important issue. I

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Speaker 3: This is a bit of a step, is it not

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Speaker 3: to put the border selectmen in therefore the town. I

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Speaker 3: don't know what the vote was. I think I read

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Speaker 3: to to go ahead with this, with this audit? Uh,

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Speaker 3: tell us what you what you've done? Did did they

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Speaker 3: let her go to Marianna and Spilker and have you

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Speaker 3: have you received any response yet?

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Speaker 4: So yeah, the full select Board voted unanimously five zero

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Speaker 4: audit go ahead, so obviously we Melissa Murphy, my vice

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Speaker 4: came up with the initiative to send you know, like

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Speaker 4: what you say your last name is. It is just

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Speaker 4: a strongly worded letter saying, you know, just respect the

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Speaker 4: the audit, you know what I mean. And it just

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Speaker 4: seems like the most common sense thing to do. We

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Speaker 4: select boards and you know, town councils to why aren't

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Speaker 4: they doing this too?

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Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: So hopefully this is uh, you know, like the spark

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Speaker 3: I would hope so explain in your own words, and

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Speaker 3: we're going to be joined by your your vice chairman

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Speaker 3: but in your words, why is this important? I happen

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Speaker 3: to think it's important, but I'd love to know why,

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Speaker 3: why you would articulate it as being important.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So, speaking on behalf of myself, obviously not for

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Speaker 4: the for the full board, I made the argument that

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Speaker 4: last election, know, a special election for a ballot initiative

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Speaker 4: for a new Kilm school which was like one hundred,

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Speaker 4: you know, it was kind of close, but essentially that

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Speaker 4: and you know that's what we're supposed to do. Subsequent

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Speaker 4: have to sign off on debt and all these other

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Speaker 3: Well, I totally agree with you. Let me incorporate Melissa

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Speaker 3: How are you this evening good? How are you just great?

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Speaker 3: Thank you very much for raising this issue. Chris has

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Speaker 3: boards of aldermen's city councils that will also tell these

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Speaker 5: Absolutely, I hope so as well. You know, for me,

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Speaker 5: it forward. I mean, I don't think it's often that

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Speaker 5: in Massachusetts you get that many people to agree on

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Speaker 5: voters agreeing on this. I mean, it seems like a

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Speaker 5: no brainer to me. And you know, being a volunteer

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Speaker 5: Like as a volunteer, we're subjected to, you know, public

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Speaker 5: And it's just it's incredible to me and seems like

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Speaker 3: They have an interesting system up there where they're paid

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Speaker 3: very well for what, for many of them is not

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Speaker 4: They heard you're not very familiar with reading Massachusetts.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no, no. I am actually with all the community,

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Speaker 3: I'd love to hear from some members of other select boards.

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Speaker 3: A lot of the communities have fought against what they

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Speaker 3: All Right, I think we're in good shape here. We're

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Speaker 3: we'll gamble here and we'll see what we do. I

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Speaker 3: am talking with Chris Haley. Christopher Haley, he's the chair

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Speaker 3: They have both volunteer members. They they work for their

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Speaker 3: It's it's very it's very tech to go. But what

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Speaker 4: Correct, correct? I mean, you know, we have, we have

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Speaker 7: I listened to you regularly, Dan, and I've called in before.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Well, give me the name of the website or

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Speaker 7: And I'm sure that yeah, it's Mark Rock m u

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, let's tell this I will take that responsibility.

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Speaker 7: Show the founder he used to work at the Boston Herald.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Absolutely, you don't want to become a one newspaper town.

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Speaker 8: Tonight, so you I met to call it earlier.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was thinking. Yeah, I could. What I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, like like mucky mud and Muckrakers.

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Speaker 3: Or we are back and we are talking, and I

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Speaker 3: you are next on nightside. Welcome. You're wrong with Chris

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Speaker 3: Haley and with Melissa Murphy. Go right ahead, Mark.

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Speaker 6: Hello, Hello, I'm a Park Breading. I'm on the Planey

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Speaker 6: board and I was on the select Board. I'm running

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Speaker 6: again for the board in the West Boylston so campaign.

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Speaker 3: I guess yes, absolutely.

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Speaker 6: They agree about the uh about that they should they

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Speaker 6: should audit the legislature. I mean, for one thing, when

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Speaker 6: you ask for it and then they don't do it.

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Speaker 6: It's like they're pleading the fifth because they have something

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Speaker 6: that would make them appear guilty. I mean exactly, this

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Speaker 6: might take a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Exactly, yeah, exactly, go ahead, And melissam Saw you wanted

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Speaker 3: to say something.

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Speaker 5: No, I totally agree with him. It just makes it

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Speaker 5: seem like that they it doesn't give any one public

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Speaker 5: trust in the legislation with this behavior. They should just

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Speaker 5: go forward with it and give the you know, residents

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Speaker 5: in Massachusetts the transparency that they're looking for.

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Speaker 3: So, Mark, Mark, did you say you previously had served

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Speaker 3: on the select board in West Boilston.

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Speaker 6: I did. I did during the of the controversial controversial times.

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Speaker 6: There was great times.

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Speaker 3: Controversial times meaning the COVID times or the Chapter ninety

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Speaker 3: three MBTA Community Acts times.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, So for the good part, I was on

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Speaker 6: the planning board for the MBTA part. And we got

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Speaker 6: through the MBTA part because one we advocated for it.

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Speaker 6: Because one, it's only permitting, so it's kind of an

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Speaker 6: unfunded mandate to do work in town, but you don't

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Speaker 6: build anything. So that was one of our reasons that

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Speaker 6: we were worried about it. The other thing is where

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Speaker 6: we picked our spot to put it was not like

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Speaker 6: holding which is next door to us, we're just having

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Speaker 6: a lot of trouble with it. We put ours in

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Speaker 6: a place which it's actually right near some train tracks,

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Speaker 6: it's near a golf course. I mean, it's kind of unbuildable,

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Speaker 6: but at some place where if it was built as

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Speaker 6: a prison near it, I mean in a place where

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Speaker 6: it wouldn't bother anybody, so we wouldn't get avantage of

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Speaker 6: the fact that we could take a good start.

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Speaker 3: For it, you know, market. It made me remind me

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Speaker 3: of the thought of, you know, so much to do

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Speaker 3: so many problems in such a little time. People don't

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Speaker 3: understand that the members of the boards of aldermen or

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Speaker 3: select board, they spend an enormous amount of time looking

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Speaker 3: out for the interest of the community. They're elected locally.

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Speaker 3: It's such important. They're more important to most people than

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Speaker 3: us senators, congressmen, legislators for that matter, the President of

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Speaker 3: the United States. In my in my humble opinion, are

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Speaker 3: you now running to get back on the board, Mark

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Speaker 3: or no?

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Speaker 6: I am? I am I'm trying to get back on

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Speaker 6: the board. I mean at what you're saying is absolutely true.

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Speaker 6: Like the things that are going on in our town

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Speaker 6: are raising hackles on everybody. And it's about curR tight

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Speaker 6: pickup of trash. I mean, you know, it's like this

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Speaker 6: little tiny local things, but they're they're they're important to

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Speaker 6: the people that you know you've represented.

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Speaker 3: You know well, I will tell you hit un a

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Speaker 3: nerve with me and and Chris and Melissa. I want

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Speaker 3: you to know that where I live, I live on

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Speaker 3: a little side road. But my address is related to

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Speaker 3: the main road, and five or six times a year

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Speaker 3: my trash pickup is Wednesday. For twenty years, five or

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Speaker 3: six times a year the trash is have picked up.

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Speaker 3: And the reason is that the substitute drivers come in

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Speaker 3: on those weeks it's Christmas week or fourth to July week,

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Speaker 3: and no one ever takes the time to say, hey,

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Speaker 3: there's a side road that you all, there's four or

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Speaker 3: five houses down this little side road. And I have

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Speaker 3: dealt with the city officials here where I live for

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Speaker 3: twenty years, and I know the that's the one problem

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Speaker 3: that is simple trash pickup. So that's so so important.

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Speaker 3: But this is a little bigger issue. So Mark, what's

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Speaker 3: your last name? So in case people who are listening

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Speaker 3: to Night's side are aware of what you what your

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Speaker 3: thoughts were tonight. What's your last name?

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Speaker 6: It's Mark Freedom in West Boy and running disfe fort

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Speaker 6: and planning board. Can I bring up one other topic, yes,

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Speaker 6: and that's the difference between the This is another one

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Speaker 6: that grinds my gears between the municipality and the between

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Speaker 6: the municipalities and the legislature. And it's the open meeting

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Speaker 6: law which nine like what it does ninety percent of

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Speaker 6: the time, and it makes you have post meetings twenty

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Speaker 6: eight hours. It makes you take minutes, it makes you

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Speaker 6: I mean, it makes you do a lot of documentation.

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Speaker 6: But the problem is it also prevents preparation for meetings

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Speaker 6: to do the best for your constituents. I mean, one

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Speaker 6: of the things I'll bring up is that you have

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Speaker 6: two members of the selectord I hope it's a five

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Speaker 6: member board. In some places, this is a problem to

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Speaker 6: have two members together because they can't discuss whatever agenda items, whatever,

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Speaker 6: make a vote something like that.

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Speaker 3: Well, would I think they would have an exception since

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Speaker 3: they they're doing they're not doing a meeting, they're not

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Speaker 3: taking a vote, they're explaining what they have done.

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Speaker 6: But the fact that you even have to have an

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Speaker 6: exception like this shouldn't even be an issue. But the

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Speaker 6: members of the Slight Force should be able to get

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Speaker 6: together and think about problems, get prepared for meetings. This

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Speaker 6: should not be a mean.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what they're trying to avoid is that

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Speaker 3: people don't have their separate meeting. It's not a public meeting,

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Speaker 3: and you get a cabal of three members who come

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Speaker 3: to the meeting with their mind made up, and they

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Speaker 3: sort of taken a blood oath that they're going to

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Speaker 3: vote one way or the other. I think that's the

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Speaker 3: purpose of it. But if a couple of people bump

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Speaker 3: into each other at a restaurant and they happen to

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Speaker 3: strike up a conversation casually, I don't think that's what

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Speaker 3: they intended. And I hope you agree with me that.

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Speaker 6: I absolutely agree with you. What I'm opposed to is

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Speaker 6: the fact that we even have to say, oh, that

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Speaker 6: is okay. It's not the intense conversation.

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Speaker 3: I hear you well, Mark, best of luck. If I

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Speaker 3: was in West Boyles, then I'd be holding a sign

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Speaker 3: for you. You selling my sort of guy. Thanks Mark,

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Speaker 3: keep good night. You can take that call down, Troy,

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Speaker 3: if you don't mind, I'll let you. Can't let it

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Speaker 3: unless you want me. You got to take it down, okay.

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Speaker 3: My guest Chris Haley and Melissa Murphy. They are two

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Speaker 3: members of the select Board in reading they have written

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Speaker 3: a letter. Do either of you have any hope that

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Speaker 3: you're going to get an actual substantive response as opposed

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Speaker 3: to some thank you for your interest. We'll take into

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Speaker 3: consideration all the valid points that you've made have a

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Speaker 3: lovely day sincerely.

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Speaker 5: You know you and hope that we'll get a response,

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Speaker 5: but I don't think I have high hopes of it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well, I hope what we can do is spur

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Speaker 3: some of the other cities and towns here in Massachusetts

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Speaker 3: to also.

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Speaker 4: I will say, if I could quick on my opinion

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Speaker 4: on that is, I'm typically under that same similar mindset

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Speaker 4: that you know, it's a snowballs chance that we're going

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Speaker 4: to actually get a response from this. But I ironically,

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Speaker 4: the MBTA came to Reading to want to do a

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Speaker 4: double track, and you know, when the MBTA comes, apparently

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Speaker 4: you have to just abide by everything they say. And

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Speaker 4: luckily a bunch of residents formed a turnback track committee

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Speaker 4: fought against the MBTA, and we successfully ousted the MDTA

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Speaker 4: from doing a second track in Reading, Massachusetts. So even

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Speaker 4: though we might think that the fix might be in

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Speaker 4: or something like that, like yeah, all it takes is

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Speaker 4: a spark like this for other communities to launch onto something,

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Speaker 4: or a bunch of residents to get together, and it

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Speaker 4: does make a difference. Otherwise, what's the point you have

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Speaker 4: to advocate for something if you give up that's just

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Speaker 4: what they're looking for it to happen. Just roll over

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Speaker 4: and deal with it.

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Speaker 3: I got to take a very quick break. I have

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Speaker 3: christ and Beverly on the other side. I'm not sure

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Speaker 3: if he is an elected official, and Beverly we'll find out.

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Speaker 3: I appreciate him calling in if anyone else wants to

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Speaker 3: give it a shot. Six one, seven, six months, seven

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Speaker 3: nine to three one ten thirty. Back with my guests,

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Speaker 3: members of the select Board of Reading who have written

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Speaker 3: a letter, pretty strong letter to both the House Speaker

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Speaker 3: Mariano and the Senate President Spoka, telling them that they

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Speaker 3: need to comply with the initiative petition the ballot Question

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Speaker 3: from twenty twenty two, which instructed the legislature to comply

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Speaker 3: with an order to be conducted by the Auditor of

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Speaker 3: Massachusetts Diana Desauglio. That vote seventy two percent to twenty

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Speaker 3: eight almost three to one. Back with Chris Haley and

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Speaker 3: Melissa Murphy. Right after these messages.

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Speaker 1: You're on night side with Dan Ray. I'm WAZ Boston's

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Speaker 1: news radio.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Let me get too quickly. Chris is in Beverly. Chris,

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Speaker 3: we're tight on time. I guess you've got to bring

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Speaker 3: Chris up for me, please, Troy. Let's bring him right up.

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Speaker 3: Chris and Beverly hold them up, Dear Chris, I'm here, Ni, Troy, Chris,

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Speaker 3: how are you thinking much? Truck? Chris, go right ahead.

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Speaker 3: You're next on the line with Chris Haley and Melissa

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Speaker 3: Murphy of Reddy Go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Thank you think I am not an elected official. I'm

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Speaker 8: just your average member of the electorate. That's okay, And

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Speaker 8: thank you for doing this, because you know, I feel

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Speaker 8: like I've been kind of yelling into the void up

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Speaker 8: until about now, and just listening to your show kind

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Speaker 8: of makes me realize that I am saying that I'm

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Speaker 8: not imagining things.

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Speaker 3: Is the greatest suggestion if I could do you, Chris,

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Speaker 3: I think that what you might do is have your

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Speaker 3: board of selectmen, I know if you're called them or

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Speaker 3: selectman up there or whatever they're called. They could be

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Speaker 3: called select people of persons or whatever council, city council

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Speaker 3: in Beverly, because Beverly is the city, right tell them

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Speaker 3: that they should listen to this this hour. They can

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Speaker 3: listen to it on Nightside on demand dot com. That'll

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Speaker 3: be posted sometime early tomorrow morning, meaning probably by two

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Speaker 3: three o'clock and they can wake up tomorrow morning and

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Speaker 3: listen to this, and maybe the Beverly City Council will

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Speaker 3: have the courage to also. I'm sure the vote in

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Speaker 3: Beverly was overwhelmingly in favor of this audit as well.

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Speaker 3: Do you happen to know what the vote was in Beverly?

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Speaker 8: No, I imagine it's probably very much. You're on par

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Speaker 8: with the rest of the state.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I hope that that you. You admire what

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Speaker 3: what Chris Haley and Melissa Murphy and the other members

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Speaker 3: of the select Board in Reading have done, and let's

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Speaker 3: hope they can send a precedent for actions by others.

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Speaker 8: Me too, Do you have an appreciate.

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Speaker 4: As long as you keep speaking up? You're not. Sometimes

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Speaker 4: I feel myself I'm speaking and screaming into the ether

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Speaker 4: on certain things. But like, listen, you just make a difference.

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Speaker 4: Vote locally, get people to vote, get involved, that's all.

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Speaker 4: That's what you have to do. This this federal stuff,

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Speaker 4: like it was mentioned earlier, is pointless. It's all local.

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Speaker 4: I control everything, your taxes, your water rates, trash, all

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Speaker 4: of it. Me like, well, I'm one of five people, obviously,

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Speaker 4: but like that's your day to day life, not everything

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Speaker 4: else you see on Twitter and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Well, I just want to share one thing that Yeah,

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Speaker 3: go ahead, getting a little tight, go ahead, Christian Beverly.

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Speaker 8: Of course, you know Diana, she puts up stuff on

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Speaker 8: social media, and she's putting up these clips and one

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Speaker 8: was an interview with the with the President the House

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Speaker 8: of Represents, the President Mariano, and they basically quoted him saying,

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Speaker 8: you know, they said, well what about the vote? What

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Speaker 8: about He's like, he's like, not all ballot questions make

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Speaker 8: good laws. And I was just like, who is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's it. That's the ratitude up there. He's

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Speaker 3: the king up there because he can put people on

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Speaker 3: committees and give an extra twenty thousand dollars or twenty

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Speaker 3: five thousand dollars. And they they all, you know, they

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Speaker 3: strew rose path rose pedals in his path when he

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Speaker 3: walks up there, and that could be a big aphrodisiac

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Speaker 3: when you were power, you know, as Lord acting acting

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Speaker 3: said power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. And say

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Speaker 3: say hello to the to the to the legislative leadership

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Speaker 3: at the Massachusetts House, a House and State Senate Chris,

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Speaker 3: thanks for calling. Uh and I mean that, and I

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Speaker 3: got to wrap it up here, but please, uh give

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Speaker 3: your your your own city councilors a little suggestion to

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Speaker 3: to do the same thing. We're going to try to

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Speaker 3: get get this spark going fair enough. Yes, thanks Chris,

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Speaker 3: thank you all right. Uh. To the callers in the line,

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Speaker 3: I apologize you should have called early, but we're going

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Speaker 3: to change topics on the other side of the hour.

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Speaker 3: Unfortunately you're a little late. But if folks want to

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Speaker 3: get in touch with you, Melissa or with Chris Hayley,

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Speaker 3: they can just contact I assume reading.

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Speaker 5: Hall yep, our emails and my phone number out there,

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Speaker 5: that's for sure.

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Speaker 3: Thank you and you love. And I assume you'd love

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Speaker 3: to hear from from members in political leadership in other

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Speaker 3: communities and they can follow your example.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 5: I've actually heard from other members of slectboards around the

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Speaker 5: state already, so I would hope I would love to

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Speaker 5: hear from others, and you know, really I would like

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Speaker 5: for other you know, flectboards, hound comfols to do something

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Speaker 5: very similar to what we did, because we need to

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Speaker 5: get their attention and make sure that they go forward

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Speaker 5: with what the will of the voters.

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Speaker 3: Wanted well, Chris, Chris has mine and Chris thank you

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Speaker 3: as well. Chris Haley is my number of you want

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Speaker 3: to contact me and maybe we can get a little

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Speaker 3: revolution going here in the two hundred and fiftieth anniversary

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Speaker 3: of the American Revolution. Okay, all right, thank you both

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Speaker 3: for you. Thank you both for your courage, and thank

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Speaker 3: you for being available tonight. And if anybody gives you

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Speaker 3: a hard time, you'll let me know. Okay, this hour

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Speaker 3: will be.

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Speaker 4: Posted you Dan, you get a couple of hours.

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Speaker 3: For the phone, I could make time for you. It'll

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Speaker 3: be posted it. It'll be posted at Nightside on demand

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Speaker 3: dot com. That's our website, and it'll be posted sometime

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Speaker 3: around two by two o'clock this morning. It'll be there

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Speaker 3: when people get up in the morning, so you can

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Speaker 3: send a copy or direct any of the others who

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Speaker 3: are interested to that website. Nightside and Demand dot com.

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Speaker 3: Thank you both very much. It's great to talk to

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Speaker 3: some real political leaders. Thank you. We'll talk again.

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Speaker 4: Good night.

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Speaker 3: Let's stay and talk good night. Okay, we are done.

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Speaker 3: Here comes the ten o'clock news, and we intend to

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Speaker 3: switch topics on the other side, coming back on nightside