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Speaker 1: Thomas here, glad it be glad it's Friday. I hope

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Speaker 1: of the red Opening Day game. We obviously lost the game.

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Speaker 1: The parade was wonderful, the weather was great. Reds didn't perform,

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Speaker 1: But the whole city was not viewed nationally because of

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Speaker 1: the Reds game. It was viewed because of the chaos

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Speaker 1: here this morning, and welcome back, and God bless both

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Speaker 1: of you for showing up this morning. Former mayoral candidate

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Speaker 1: Corey Bowman, who's West End business owner and resident in

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Speaker 1: the he he's got his finger on the pulse of

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Speaker 1: everything that's going on downtown since say, of course and

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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine or one on the inside, who's got

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Speaker 1: all the information real time apparently, Welcome back signal ninety

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Speaker 1: nine and Cory Bowman. It's always a pleasure having you

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Speaker 1: on the show. Brian, So I guess starting with a

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Speaker 1: signal ninety nine, were you how is it that you

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Speaker 1: got real time information about what was going on? And folks,

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Speaker 1: if you just waking up, you don't realize that we had,

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Speaker 1: you know, waves of us running them up in downtown Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: deploying it's praying pepper spray all each other and uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess Signal ninety nine you refer to these these

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Speaker 1: these uh, the these street takeovers by teens, that's what they.

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Speaker 2: Call them across the country. Yes, and it's not new.

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Speaker 2: It's that you know, they do this. They create this chaos.

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Speaker 2: Sometimes it involves violent and somebody's always filming it, and

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Speaker 2: then they're able to post it on their social and

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Speaker 2: get clicks and it gives them a street cred.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, oh that's just so ridiculous. I'm sorry. I

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Speaker 1: struggle with that as a concept. These people are so

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Speaker 1: posting the violence on social media. This is a breakdown

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Speaker 2: It's very similar to the knockout game that we had

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Speaker 1: All right, this is this is well known and you

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Speaker 1: know we're not introducing the whole concept of street takers

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Speaker 1: to the listening audience. We see him break out all

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Speaker 1: the time. It's almost on a daily basis. But a

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Speaker 1: sad thing what happens to the city of Cincinnati who agreed

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Speaker 1: This is in that Banks area that normally would have

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Speaker 1: and I know there's question swirling around that would it

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Speaker 1: and I get the impression that these violent outbreaks had

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Speaker 2: Oh, they started early in the afternoon. So I started

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Speaker 2: getting reports of it before twoint thirty in the afternoon yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So I started putting some stuff together and Corey and

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Speaker 2: I actually talked and touched on it several times yesterday,

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Speaker 2: back and forth, back and forth. Right, right, my brother

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Speaker 3: That's right. Yeah. Basically we had just got back from

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Speaker 3: the parade, and it was a great parade. Like you said, Brian,

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Speaker 3: I think even Tricia Maxiew said that I Live that

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Speaker 1: It was a picture so glorious, Corey, I was looking

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Speaker 3: Well, I want to mention this, and I think Carolyn will,

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Speaker 3: When I was downtown in the parade, I talked with

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Speaker 1: Yes, I join you in your salute to law enforcement.

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Speaker 1: And it was a lot of law enforcement since a

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Speaker 1: ninety night. I got the impression, or I get the

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Speaker 1: that those who were not on duty last night. Swatt

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Speaker 2: Well, that's certainly true a lot. So every deputy in

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Speaker 2: mutual aid kicked in. So it wasn't just OSP and

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Speaker 2: And when I say that, I mean it took every

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Speaker 2: that's a civil unrest. And I'm imagining I wasn't down there,

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Speaker 2: by officers, by deputies, by citizens down there, it was rioting. Okay,

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Speaker 2: it was more like a riot. They were throwing stuff

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Speaker 2: It was chaos. It was absolute chaos. And I'm sorry,

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Speaker 2: but where was the mayor? Is he on vacation? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've read multiple news accounts of this from various local

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Speaker 1: and you're reporting on what was going on in downtown,

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Speaker 1: since studies signal nine as well. Silence is deafening. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's see all of those law enforcement resources drawn downtown.

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Speaker 1: We live in a very unstable world these days, and

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Speaker 1: could that not have been intentionally so that law enforcement

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Speaker 1: to think about yesterday though that's what we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: the opening day, which should have been just a glorious

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Speaker 1: According to the headline of the Sense required disorder and

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Speaker 1: violence at the banks arrest following Red's opening day. So

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Speaker 1: Washington Park and Fountain Square. They had to shut down

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Speaker 1: the sense that these were completely separate areas the Fountain Square,

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Speaker 1: But this is the time, this is the place. Any

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Speaker 2: It won several, not three, It was several, And yes

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Speaker 2: they were absolutely coordinated, and I mean that's what they do.

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Speaker 2: You know, the incident we had last July, which they

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Speaker 2: It's the same type of thing. It's just ridiculous. And

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Speaker 2: you know what the city anticipated that this could happen, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean they knew that. And can you imagine the

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Speaker 2: ROI bran, I'm not trying to hog all the time

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Speaker 2: Roy was at NAACP meeting while this was all happening

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Speaker 1: Oh well, whoa whoa signal ninety nine. Iris Rollie the

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Speaker 1: gone around asserting that their races. She has interfered with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's two officers that aren't helping right or

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Speaker 2: working in or you know, quill in the violence. They're

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Speaker 2: because the city's safe.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a good point. Why would she need two

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely crazy. But now I'm glad that the law

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Speaker 2: Well, we don't need to create a law. We already

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Speaker 2: We just need to enforce the laws that are already

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Speaker 2: I'm exercising my first Amendment right, you can't take me in.

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Speaker 2: It's it's terrific, okay, And that is what Cincinnati is

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Speaker 1: You should be in marketing signal ninety nine. But these policies,

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Speaker 1: They got a thing going on.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that I would call it a last night.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I see the landscape of thinks. Corey Bowman,

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Speaker 1: Police Department and other law enforcement agencies. Isn't that exactly

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Speaker 1: what Police Chief Thiji suggested be done in the aftermath

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Speaker 1: of the beatdown that Holly and others received last summer

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Speaker 1: when all the violence hit the streets wasn't that her

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Speaker 1: suggestion and resulted her in getting placed on administrative leave.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, shee brought everybody to the table, got everybody to

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Speaker 2: agree that they were going to, you know, try to

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Speaker 2: hold the court accountable and you know, work together to

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Speaker 2: combat all the violent crime going on in the county.

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Speaker 2: And she was slaved for it. They didn't like that,

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Speaker 2: They thought she spoke out of turn. She didn't. Is

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Speaker 2: it chief of police? She still the chief of police.

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Speaker 2: I want to remind everybody of that, and I want

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Speaker 2: to say one thing else. Corey touched on it. It

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Speaker 2: breaks my heart every time I see these videos and

447
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Speaker 2: post it because it impacts the way everybody's viewsed the

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Speaker 2: black community. I don't have problems with any of the

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Speaker 2: black communities in our city, in our county, and they're

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Speaker 2: the ones that get victimized the worst. They're the ones

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Speaker 2: they're getting victimized by the violent crime. And of course

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Speaker 2: they want to feel safe. Of course, they want their

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Speaker 2: kids to be able to play outside. Of course, they

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Speaker 2: don't want to have to watch TV laying on the

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Speaker 2: floor in case of straight bullet comes to their window

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Speaker 2: or their wall. People should not have to live like that.

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Speaker 2: And every time I post one of these video, I

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Speaker 2: was like cringe because I end up. I know, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to have to block at least one hundred and

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Speaker 2: two hundred people for racist comments, and it's ridiculous. It's

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Speaker 2: causing more racism. Yeah, with these politics that are in play,

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Speaker 2: it's causing people to actually hate the black community as

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Speaker 2: a whole. And that's not fair to the black community.

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Speaker 2: It's not their fault.

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Speaker 1: No, you know, and the response from those crazies within

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Speaker 1: any given community that it's racism to point the finger

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Speaker 1: at criminals and suggest that this is a racist kind

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Speaker 1: of thing that you're engaged in. Oh, you like the

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Speaker 1: Somali community in Minnesota. They wouldn't lead allow that fraud,

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Speaker 1: waste and abuse to go on for years and years

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Speaker 1: because anytime someone raised the specter of hey, we got

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Speaker 1: to go after this fraud, well that's racist.

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Speaker 2: No, it's not.

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Speaker 1: You want to get rid of crime, you go after

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Speaker 1: the criminals. They're a subset of the broader community. This

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Speaker 1: particular case, the violent youths that were running them up.

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Speaker 1: I saw the video largely, if not predominantly or completely

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Speaker 1: black young people. They are a subset of the black community.

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Speaker 1: This is not an indictment of black people. It's an

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Speaker 1: indictment of criminals, criminals.

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Speaker 2: It's an indictment of their parents also because they refuse

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Speaker 2: to watch their kids. Well, I can't control my kids,

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Speaker 2: We'll take their phones away, you know, set their phones off.

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Speaker 2: That's how they're communicating. They're communicating to their social media

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Speaker 2: platforms and through text message groups. And it's the same

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Speaker 2: thing with you know, it just goes on and on

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Speaker 2: and on. If you can't control your kids, ask for help.

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Speaker 2: But the first thing you could do is take their phone.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm going to tell you, I'm talking to all

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Speaker 2: these parents right now that just let their kids run

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Speaker 2: them up. Well, your kids are gonna get hurt. Your

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Speaker 2: kids are going to get shot. People are afraid, and

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Speaker 2: they're tired, they're tired of all of it. Well, I'm

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Speaker 2: going to be awful.

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Speaker 1: I'll suggest Signal ninety nine. That is a great, great idea. However,

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Speaker 1: a parent who realizes that the cell phone is the

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Speaker 1: source of the connection with the other criminal element out there,

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Speaker 1: I bet that parent does not have a child that

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Speaker 1: would engage in this type of conduct because they care

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Speaker 1: enough to even consider taking the phone away. It's the

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Speaker 1: ones that you pointed out, don't care whether their kids

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Speaker 1: are at two o'clock in the morning or whenever. Therein

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Speaker 1: lies the challenge, and again that's a subset of the

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Speaker 1: broader parental community out there. Most parents, I would like

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Speaker 1: to think and believe, have a genetic predisposition to one

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Speaker 1: of keeping their kids out of trouble and out of jail.

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Speaker 1: One more was signal ninety nine and Corey Bowman, after

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Speaker 1: I mentioned the wonderful folks at Galaxy Concrete, cuttings of

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Speaker 1: se fifty five krcdtalk station and try to have a

510
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Speaker 1: happy Friday, think of the weekend, think of the fun

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Speaker 1: you can have, and try not to think of yesterday,

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Speaker 1: although yesterday I think this is maybe the tip of

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Speaker 1: the iceberg into the future. If we don't do something

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Speaker 1: to crack down on youth violence. Primarily, they're not going

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Speaker 1: to get a message that they shouldn't be violent, and

516
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Speaker 1: they're going to continue to get together in huge groups

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Speaker 1: and ruining the fund for everyone else on the phone

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Speaker 1: here today, Corey Bowman, former maryl candidate, knows what it's

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Speaker 1: like to live and have a business in the West End.

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Speaker 1: He's a little concerned about people leaving and fleeing and

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Speaker 1: not showing up in the city, which seems to be

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Speaker 1: a growing trend. Of course, Signal ninety nine has got

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Speaker 1: a finger on the pulse of everything that's going on

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Speaker 1: real time with the police downtown Cincinnati. You can find

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Speaker 1: them both on Facebook. I just turned the mic over

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Speaker 1: to you two in any further comments about this, because

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Speaker 1: we do have a real serious crime problem on our hands,

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Speaker 1: and of course largely driven by wild youth who don't

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Speaker 1: care at all.

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Speaker 2: Apparently, Well, I'm gonna actually feel this to Corey. I

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Speaker 2: you know, we're on the same page that these parents

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Speaker 2: don't want a parent. You can't expect a CPD and

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Speaker 2: other agencies to babysit your kids. I mean, I don't

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Speaker 2: think anybody in their right mind as a parent would

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Speaker 2: have just let their kids go downtown yesterday day on

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Speaker 2: a company. So, you know, maybe they need a parenting class,

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Speaker 2: Maybe they need to court to force them to take

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Speaker 2: a parenting class. Maybe they need to go to kirk you.

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Speaker 1: Know, there you have it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, so I just dropped off my boys

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Speaker 3: at school, and you know, they go to school in

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Speaker 3: downtown Cincinnati right here, at a local school, and I

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Speaker 3: was just thinking about you know, the roles that people

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Speaker 3: play in whatever society or whatever you want to say.

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Speaker 3: When we're going through a spiritual crisis like what we're

546
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Speaker 3: going through right now, people look to government and people

547
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Speaker 3: look to all these other governing authorities to do things

548
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Speaker 3: that should be done in the home and be done

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Speaker 3: by a church community. So when it comes to parenting,

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Speaker 3: you know, a teacher should never have to replace a parent.

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Speaker 3: A police officer or a government official should never have

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Speaker 3: to replace a parent. A parent, you know, need to

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Speaker 3: be able to fulfill those roles at home. I would

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Speaker 3: encourage listening to you know, whatever stage that you're in

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Speaker 3: in life, and get involved in a local church community

556
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Speaker 3: to where you can have a support system around. But

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Speaker 3: we're looking to police officers, you know, for a lot

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Speaker 3: of answers. Their answer is the police officers are the

559
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Speaker 3: last straw. Growing up, you know, if my parent told me, hey,

560
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Speaker 3: don't speed, don't you know, act reckless, don't do anything,

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Speaker 3: you know, I'd get disciplant at home. But they knew

562
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Speaker 3: that if I just if I disobeyed my parents, Ultimately,

563
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Speaker 3: the last straw is I'm going to go to court

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Speaker 3: or I'm gonna go to jail. Or I'm gonna get

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Speaker 3: pulled over by a police I don't know about everybody else,

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Speaker 3: but growing up, when a cop car passed by you,

567
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Speaker 3: you know, immediate, you know, fear went into you just

568
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Speaker 3: because you don't want to do anything wrong. And that's

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Speaker 3: something that we don't have anymore. We saw the unrest

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Speaker 3: last night, and that was happening in the presence of

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Speaker 3: police officers.

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Speaker 1: And directed at the police officers. From what I've read too, yeah.

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Speaker 3: It was directed directly. That's why they pulled in all

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Speaker 3: of the reinforcements because they were already getting resistance to

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Speaker 3: the officers that were already on site. So they knew

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Speaker 3: they're not going to put up that We're not going

577
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Speaker 3: to have an incident that's going to cause deaths. So

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Speaker 3: that's what we have to look to the police for.

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Speaker 3: If you see police they're barricading or using force like that,

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Speaker 3: that's their job. Their job is to be the last straw.

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Speaker 3: But we've got to enforce those values at home, bringing

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Speaker 3: kids in, whether it be with the local church community,

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Speaker 3: whether it be with the parents and the home, whatever

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Speaker 3: that might be. And I would encourage everybody no matter what,

585
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Speaker 3: that relationship with Jesus is going to help number one

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Speaker 3: as well well.

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Speaker 1: And you know that's sound advice, Corey. And I'm glad

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Speaker 1: you brought up the fact that you took your kids

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Speaker 1: to school teachers. And you know, quite often i'm critical

590
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: teachers unions and they're woke leftist ideology. But if you

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Speaker 1: want to know why kids aren't doing well in school,

592
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Speaker 1: maybe it's because there's a classroom full of twenty five

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Speaker 1: or thirty. Many of these children are the ones that

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Speaker 1: were running them up in the streets and have no

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Speaker 1: discipline or no concern or no care. They're the ones

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Speaker 1: ruining the education environ for everybody else, making it impossible

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Speaker 1: for a teacher to teach children how to read and

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Speaker 1: write and perform basic mathematical calculations.

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Speaker 2: But I think it speaks volumes that the agencies in

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Speaker 2: Kentucky last night shut off access to the pedestrian bridges

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Speaker 2: for people to come to walk into Kentucky. Everything you

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Speaker 2: need to know is right there. That's that's how bad

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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 4: Another state blocked off pedestrian accesses UH to get out

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Speaker 4: of the city because they didn't want none of that

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Speaker 4: in northern Kentucky.

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Speaker 1: The Berlin Wall, I'm changing, Wow, well, I hate to

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Speaker 1: laugh at that because it's born of a sad and

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Speaker 1: pathetic reality. But boy, didn't you put an exclamation point

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Speaker 1: on that one signal ninety nine? God bless you for

611
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Speaker 1: coming on the show today. I appreciate all of the

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Speaker 1: real time reporting from both of you yesterday. You know,

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Speaker 1: we wait for the morning. We hope that local news

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Speaker 1: would report on it, and we do have some reporting

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Speaker 1: on it. But to know what's going on real time

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Speaker 1: and see this information and get the details that both

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Speaker 1: of you provide has just It's been a real service

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Speaker 1: to the community generally, and you two both continue to

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Speaker 1: be a genuine benefit for the commun the greater Cincinnati community,

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Speaker 1: and most notably the city of Cincinnati proper. Keep up

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Speaker 1: the great work. Both. You have a wonderful and safe weekend,

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Speaker 1: and I look forward to having you both together or

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Speaker 1: individually back on the program because I know we've got

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Speaker 1: more to talk about down the road. Thank you, Thank

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Speaker 1: you both. Thank you both. Be safe out there. Seven

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Speaker 1: to fifty five. Don't go away, folks. After the top

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Speaker 1: of the air news, We're not gonna get Jack winsor