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Speaker 2: Five O one in the sun's not down. Days are

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Speaker 2: He just sort of, you know, he bent the rules.

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Speaker 2: And that's the funny thing about it. Now, this may

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Speaker 1: That's the way you're no Jack Kennedy, Pat Kessler, and

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Speaker 2: My latest nickname, Oh I cannot wait, not self, not one.

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Speaker 2: I'm tired of the Bolshevik ramblings of Dantifa? Okay?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea why you're pretending to be interested

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Speaker 2: it's the worst time of the winter. Am I wrong? No,

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Speaker 2: You're not wrong? Especially this winter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this has been this has been brutal and everything

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Speaker 5: going on. Uh yeah, you know, and and then the

433
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Speaker 5: cold and all of this, and I miss baseball. Now

434
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Speaker 5: I could have worn my designer Minnesota Twins sports jacket,

435
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Speaker 5: which is very very Maybe I'll bring it next week.

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Speaker 2: I let a show off. You are power of the purse.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly I still you know what I did? The

438
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Speaker 5: the price tag is still on this sport code?

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Speaker 2: Is that are you? Is that a deliberate or is

440
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Speaker 2: that a deliberate? Is that a look that style? Well,

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Speaker 2: you mean like now the kids.

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Speaker 5: The kids used to leave the price tags on the

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Speaker 5: on the baseball caps and the the headgear yea, all

444
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Speaker 5: the sticks correct, and then and the stickers. Yeah, I

445
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Speaker 5: mean I leave the stickers on back in the day. Uh,

446
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 5: this is even before my time, and I'm eighty something.

447
00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 5: Minnie Pearl used to actually she was a look it

448
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Speaker 5: up kids, Grand old Yeah, a grand old opera. She

449
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 5: wore a straw hat with the price tag on it.

450
00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,880
Speaker 5: All people laughed. So yeah, I mean I miss baseball.

451
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Speaker 5: I missed the Twins. Cannot wait for it up with.

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Speaker 2: Out of Nowhere, Minnie Pearl, that's a great. Uh. Yeah,

453
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,160
Speaker 2: so I missed baseball and cannot wait for it to happen.

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Speaker 2: Do you know who is ninety years old today? Ninety?

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Speaker 2: I cannot wait years? I think today, Yes, Alan Alda, Oh,

456
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Speaker 2: the actor mash obviously a lot of other, lot of

457
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Speaker 2: great movie movies. Yeah, Alan Alda, Oh ninety goodness, now

458
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Speaker 2: he played. You might be old enough to remember this, Well,

459
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Speaker 2: you are old enough to you. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you do plus years old. Once upon a time there

461
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Speaker 2: was a writer, very effective writer named George Plimpton. And

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Speaker 2: Plimpton one of his his bits became, I want to

463
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Speaker 2: write about being a quarterback, a National Football League quarterback.

464
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Speaker 2: And here's how I'm going to do it. I'm going

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Speaker 2: to convince a team to let me actually participate in

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Speaker 2: a football training camp for real, like get hit meetings,

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Speaker 2: the whole bit. And he convinced the Detroit Lions. He

468
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Speaker 2: approached several teams. The only team that said yes to

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Speaker 2: him were the Detroit Lions, and Plimpton then wrote a

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Speaker 2: book about his experiences called Paper Lion, and it was

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Speaker 2: turned into a motion picture and it was Alan Alda

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Speaker 2: who played the part of George Plimpton in the film

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Speaker 2: Alex Carris The Old Time Great. You know Lions player

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Speaker 2: is in it. The coaches are in accurate. Yeah, he's

475
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Speaker 2: in the I mean he's in the meetings. He actually

476
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Speaker 2: took some hits. This was a long way to get

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Speaker 2: to it.

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Speaker 5: Yes, but that was a hell of a payoff because yeah,

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00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 5: Plimpton did this, and he would didn't he do this

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Speaker 5: with other other.

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Speaker 2: Occupations as well? He did because he part after that

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Speaker 2: one went so well. I think he tried golf a

483
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Speaker 2: couple others.

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Speaker 5: And part of this was that he he had he

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Speaker 5: wanted to play.

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Speaker 2: In a game.

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Speaker 5: That's true, right, yes, and so he was going to

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Speaker 5: be the quarterback in a game. Now, our great listeners

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Speaker 5: will let us know. But he did play in a game.

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Speaker 5: Did he not.

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Speaker 2: Played in a preseason game? Yeah? Okay, so at the

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Speaker 2: end of the preseason game, as I recall, did he

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Speaker 2: get hit? I think he did. I want to say

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Speaker 2: he did get get hit. I'm not sure, but it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a good film, black and white back in

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Speaker 2: the day. And I don't know that I ever read

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Speaker 2: the book. But Plimpton was a very accomplished George Plimpton

498
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Speaker 2: was a very so Alan Alda and it's his birthday

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Speaker 2: he played him. I guess it makes sense that he

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Speaker 2: would be that age. He'd been around for a long time.

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Speaker 5: Alan Alda is part of our background music, part of

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Speaker 5: our background of film, everything, part.

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Speaker 2: Of the of our life. So there's not one happy

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Speaker 2: birthday to Alan al Yeah, I thought it was worth

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Speaker 2: at least a quick mention for sure. All right, let

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Speaker 2: me get to where I got to get to your list.

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Speaker 2: But I think some of these are fairly fairly self evident.

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Speaker 5: I don't even know why I bother making a list,

509
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Speaker 5: not because you don't get to it, but because.

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Speaker 2: It changes so fast every single hour.

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Speaker 5: We are in a really fast paced time right now

512
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Speaker 5: with news happening, and it's outdated almost immediately.

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Speaker 2: All right, so give me any updates that exist regarding

514
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Speaker 2: the ilhan Omar event last night that turned scary. I

515
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Speaker 2: think we now have information, more information about the perpetrator.

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Speaker 2: We also have more information about the liquid that he was, like,

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Speaker 2: wasn't it went through a syringe of some sort, like

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Speaker 2: some kind of For.

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Speaker 5: Our listeners who haven't, you aren't aware of this quite yet,

520
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 5: because this happened last night where Ilhan Omar was having

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Speaker 5: a town hall event, very controversial member of Congress as

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Speaker 5: we all know here in Minnesota and nationally, in part

523
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Speaker 5: because she has been a target of President Trump's ire

524
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Speaker 5: and his attacking her for many years. So some guy

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Speaker 5: in the audience gets up in the middle of remarks

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Speaker 5: that she's making and he has some sort of device.

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Speaker 2: It looks like, I'm not going to say, a turkey baster, but.

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Speaker 5: It's just so plastic wrens and he's squirting some liquid

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Speaker 5: on her that people in the room said smelled like vinegar,

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Speaker 5: later determined to be perhaps an apple based. Yeah, and

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Speaker 5: it's some dude who has been radicalized over the last

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Speaker 5: few years. But when it happens, everybody's frozen in the

533
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Speaker 5: moment and they say, like, what the hell's happening here?

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Speaker 5: And I will I just have to point this out.

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Speaker 5: You know, the security I don't see security movement, so

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Speaker 5: you know what I see if you look at the video. Yes,

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00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 5: it's ilhan Omar. She's going to kick the guys out.

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Speaker 5: She walked over like and she didn't even ready. She

539
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Speaker 5: lunges at the guy like with a fist.

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Speaker 2: And like, you know, like she's going to take it,

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Speaker 2: take a punch, yeah, and then then deliverate.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, deliver a punch is what it looked like. So

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Speaker 5: they take the guy down. He has been arrested. And

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Speaker 5: these are very serious charges of the attacks against a

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Speaker 5: member of Converse or concress and elect elected official.

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Speaker 2: And so it turns out that we're learning more about it.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to try to pronounce his name, Anthony Kazmir Sak,

548
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 5: fifty five years old. She was speaking at He's the

549
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Speaker 5: one who did this, and people are now looking into

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Speaker 5: his background. He's been for years posting online about his

551
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Speaker 5: anger at Democrats, and he had told neighbors that he

552
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Speaker 5: might be arrested. Unfortunately, the same night, just an hour earlier,

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Speaker 5: President Trump, speaking in Iowa, had again leveled charges against

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Speaker 5: against the ilhan Omar, who he's been calling and Somali's

555
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Speaker 5: associated with her, calling her garbage and that she shouldn't

556
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Speaker 5: she ought to be taken out of the country and

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Speaker 5: all of this.

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Speaker 2: Christie Nome a couple of days ago. One of the

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Speaker 2: the first briefing she gave after the shooting, I believe

560
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Speaker 2: one of the first where she actually took questions, she

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Speaker 2: brought up the name Ilhan Omar and basically said, part

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Speaker 2: of what we're in Minneapolis for is to investigate the

563
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Speaker 2: possibility that a woman who came with very little money

564
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Speaker 2: now is worth whatever whatever, you know, millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: So the obsession with her has been consistent and dramatic,

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Speaker 2: and not just the president that she had brought that

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Speaker 2: up out of nowhere.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, sometime and maybe not today, but someday,

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Speaker 5: I think we should discuss why Ice is here, why

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Speaker 5: the law enforcement are in the streets, why we have

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Speaker 5: unmarked vans and all of that. But part of it

572
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Speaker 5: is because the president wants to investigate fraud of our

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Speaker 5: government programs here, which is a very, very big deal.

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Speaker 2: Right, we all agree, We've talked about that, even though

575
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Speaker 2: the people who are best qualified and we're doing so

576
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 2: effectively are all gone now in protests. That's the irony

577
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Speaker 2: is you actually took away many your best weapons to

578
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Speaker 2: continue to uncover whatever remaining fraud.

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Speaker 5: That's why Ice first came here to investigate the fraud,

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Speaker 5: the program fraud that caused Governor Walls to drop out

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Speaker 5: of the reelection race, and he wanted to investigate smallies anyway.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, so this guy has now been apparently radicalized.

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Speaker 5: And we've talked about we've been critical of ilhan Omer

584
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Speaker 5: on the show for many years about some of the

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Speaker 5: things that she has said and done. When President Trump

586
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Speaker 5: was told about the attack on her, he now says

587
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Speaker 5: that he said that, what what the hell? I think

588
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 5: she staged this attack for somebody to attack her so

589
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Speaker 5: she could get sympathy something like that.

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Speaker 2: So, anyway, this is a serious thing.

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Speaker 5: We have a member of Congress in our state who

592
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Speaker 5: was attacked, guys arrested, facing some serious stuff, and apparently

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Speaker 5: it's not harmful stuff.

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Speaker 2: Everybody's okay, But well, here's my question. And I don't

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Speaker 2: know what went into the thinking at the time. I honestly,

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Speaker 2: I think would tell you that if somebody, you know,

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Speaker 2: jettison some liquid like that onto me, I'm I'm I'm.

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Speaker 2: As much as I want to stay to basically say

599
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Speaker 2: we're not going to let the terrorists win, I'd want

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Speaker 2: to like go to a restroom, take the shirt and

601
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Speaker 2: figured out what is what if it's something more significant

602
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Speaker 2: now maybe they were able to figure out immediately. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: the smell that Okay, it's just apple cider vinegar. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, but that's the part that surprised me. Maorry

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Speaker 2: about that all the time. Of course, in her mind,

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Speaker 2: I'm sure it was. I don't want to walk out

607
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Speaker 2: of here now, because for me, that's sending the wrong message.

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Speaker 2: I want to stand tall. I don't want to act

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Speaker 2: like I'm in fear. But I would say, again, the

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Speaker 2: liquid is this case turns out to be pretty innocuous.

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Speaker 2: But how do you know until you know?

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Speaker 5: You don't And she stayed for thirty minutes to keep

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Speaker 5: talking because she said she would not be bullied.

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Speaker 2: So give her some credit points on that.

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Speaker 5: But this again raises issues about the safety of members

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Speaker 5: of Congress and the president who's had two attempts on

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Speaker 5: his life. I mean, this is crazy stuff that we're

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Speaker 5: dealing with here. Again, to her credit, she is one

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Speaker 5: of the very few members of Congress, including members of

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Speaker 5: Congress here in minnesot who hold town hall events where

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Speaker 5: people can actually come and ask questions. But they're so

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Speaker 5: performative now that do they even matter? So, yeah, that's

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Speaker 5: just one of the things that happened today. In the

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Speaker 5: course of all of these crazy events in the Twin City.

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Speaker 2: We had what I guess ostensibly appeared to be a

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Speaker 2: softening of rhetoric for a brief period in which the

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Speaker 2: president was a lot less shall we say, aggressive and

628
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Speaker 2: confrontational in terms of his language compared to all the

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Speaker 2: people who worked for him, including the aforementioned Christy Nome.

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Speaker 2: And then we had allegedly a good conversation, according to

631
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Speaker 2: both parties, between the president and the governor. And then

632
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Speaker 2: your guy comes to town to take over my guy,

633
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Speaker 2: Tom Holme Tom exactly, and he then allegedly has a

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Speaker 2: meeting with the governor in which they we have differences,

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Speaker 2: but we had a good conversation, and we'll see where

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Speaker 2: this thing's going to go. All that stuff, I think, well,

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Speaker 2: welcome relief if it was. If it's going to lead

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Speaker 2: to anything, So do we have any signs that it

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Speaker 2: is going to lead to any sort of fundamental, concrete

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Speaker 2: meeting of the minds that makes it less likely that tonight, tomorrow,

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Speaker 2: the next day, there's going to be another confrontation and

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Speaker 2: God forbid, hopefully that does not turn violent.

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Speaker 5: I was very encouraged actually that both sides seemed to

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Speaker 5: tone down the rhetoric, and President Trump was willing to say,

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Speaker 5: you know, we got to to Governor Walls, we got

646
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Speaker 5: to lower the temperature here. And Governor Walls, to his credit, agreed,

647
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Speaker 5: and both of them showed I thought, some restraint and

648
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Speaker 5: some humility on Monday, and in fact, by switching stuff around,

649
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Speaker 5: by taking out Greg Bovino, the guy who was the

650
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Speaker 5: law enforcement chief for the border Patrol here, who was

651
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Speaker 5: the face of all of the stuff happening here, sidelines him.

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Speaker 2: He's out of the state.

653
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Speaker 5: Now Tom Homan comes in, who's a lot more a

654
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Speaker 5: lot more traditional law and order type.

655
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Speaker 2: So all of that was I think really good signs.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's a couple of brushfires today that we're

657
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 5: still not sure though. Mayor fried Jacob Pry, the mayor

658
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Speaker 5: of Minneapolis, tweeted out that he Minneapolis does not and

659
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Speaker 5: will not enforce federal immigration laws. Well, that irritated President Trump,

660
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 5: who said he's breaking the law. Somebody tell him he's

661
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Speaker 5: in very serious violation. Stop playing with fire, you know

662
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Speaker 5: that kind of thing. Meanwhile, the Attorney General Pam Bondi

663
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Speaker 5: lands in Minnesota today and they're doing a lot of different.

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Speaker 2: Things with some of the protesters.

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Speaker 5: She's here and was there for the arraignment of a

666
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Speaker 5: dozen protesters arrested in Maple Grove a couple of nights.

667
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Speaker 2: Aging, oh, this is the damage.

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Speaker 5: The noise, Yeah, the noise protest is what they called it.

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Speaker 5: And for the Attorney General, who does not want her

670
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Speaker 5: agents to be doxed, publishes the names and photographs of

671
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Speaker 5: all of the protesters and says, there rioters. So I

672
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 5: don't know where it's going. We don't know exactly how

673
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Speaker 5: we're going to tell if the temperature is actually lowered here.

674
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Speaker 5: What are we looking for?

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this question. Do we are any

676
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Speaker 2: reporters on the ground detecting any ice activity the last

677
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Speaker 2: couple of days, Because my assumption is if there is,

678
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Speaker 2: we're going to generally know about it, because there's going

679
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Speaker 2: to be going to be certainly protesters who find it

680
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Speaker 2: and or reporters who also find it.

681
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Speaker 5: So do we know the answer to that is yes,

682
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Speaker 5: there is ice activity on the ground, and the Attorney

683
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Speaker 5: General Bondi says, we're not going to let up on

684
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Speaker 5: our for illegal or undocumented people here in the United States.

685
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Speaker 5: So yes, there is some of that, and that's something

686
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Speaker 5: that we really need to see.

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Speaker 2: Is that the evidence we're looking for it?

688
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Speaker 5: Or is it with Tom Holman who does have He's controversial,

689
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Speaker 5: but he does have the respect of law enforcement.

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Speaker 2: So is it going to be toned down?

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Speaker 5: So it's not performative the way that with Christy Noman

692
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Speaker 5: Bovino and Steven Miller it has been, where you have

693
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Speaker 5: mass deportations with people in masks and unmarked vehicles and

694
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Speaker 5: wearing war Afghanistan gear with rifles piling out of vehicles

695
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Speaker 5: and rounding people up. That is where I think we're

696
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Speaker 5: going to see that not happening again or as much.

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Speaker 5: Holman is more of a targeted approach, not the mass

698
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Speaker 5: round him up approach, right, but more of a targeted

699
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Speaker 5: approach where they know who they're looking for, They're going

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Speaker 5: to target that, They're going to do it at different

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Speaker 5: times of the day and night. They're not going to

702
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Speaker 5: roll up with cameras rolling for social media. That's what

703
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Speaker 5: I think is going to be the biggest difference. But

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Speaker 5: so far we haven't seen a lot of that. I

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Speaker 5: do want to say one other thing that the president

706
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 5: said that they were going to try to lower the temperature. Well,

707
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Speaker 5: one of the things that we discovered today. The reports

708
00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:25,440
Speaker 5: now are that they have they are investigating put on

709
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Speaker 5: leave the two agents, law enforcement agents who reportedly we

710
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Speaker 5: were the ones who shot shot and killed this protester,

711
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Speaker 5: Alex Pretty, with ten shots. So we don't know who

712
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Speaker 5: they are. We don't know their names, but apparently the

713
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Speaker 5: Department of Homeland Security has put them on leave, and

714
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Speaker 5: there is some sort of investigation, not the kind of

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Speaker 5: lawment in the law enforcement investigation that we are accustomed to.

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Speaker 5: And the FBI and is not involved in this investigation

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Speaker 5: or the Minnesota BCA sell.

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Speaker 2: We still don't know the outcome of that. What do

719
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Speaker 2: you make of And I have not read there's a

720
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Speaker 2: Start Tribune story. There's a lot of versions of this story.

721
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Speaker 2: I'll read the Star Tribune version. This is via Liz Sawyer.

722
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Speaker 2: I believe Alex Pretty, the intensive care nurse killed by

723
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Speaker 2: federal agents last weekend, was swarm attaga by officers in

724
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Speaker 2: another encounter eleven days earlier, according to footage obtained by

725
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Speaker 2: the Minnesota Start Tribune captured on bystander video Jan thirteen,

726
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 2: a minute crowd of whistleblowing observers cursing immigration agents as

727
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 2: an unmarked convoy swarmed a South Minneapolis street corner. A

728
00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:47,920
Speaker 2: spokesman for the family and the family's attorney of verified

729
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 2: that the man seen in the video is pretty He

730
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Speaker 2: stands in the crosswalk, flips the middle finger of both

731
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Speaker 2: hands towards an suv carrying officers clad in tactical gear.

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Speaker 2: One jumped out of the black passengers seat, charged toward him,

733
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Speaker 2: grabbing him by the jacket, tackling him as other agents

734
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Speaker 2: piled on. According to the footage, he slips away for

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Speaker 2: about twenty five seconds. Officers retreated moments later without bringing

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Speaker 2: him into custody, So apparently that is theage.

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Speaker 5: More details to the story of who this man is,

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Speaker 5: the man who was killed by federal agents in the

739
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Speaker 5: protest this past Saturday that has, I think it's fair to.

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Speaker 2: Say, enraged the nation.

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Speaker 5: So he was involved in previous protests at least one,

742
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Speaker 5: and you mentioned the video that the Star Tribune is using,

743
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Speaker 5: So he was confronting some of the law enforcements, some

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Speaker 5: of the ice agents. CNN is reporting that in a

745
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Speaker 5: previous scuffle that he suffered a broken rib after five

746
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Speaker 5: agents tackled him, adds a lot more nuanced to the

747
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Speaker 5: story of why he was at this event on Saturday.

748
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Speaker 5: So he had been, apparently to family and friends. He

749
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Speaker 5: had been telling family and friends for a number of weeks,

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Speaker 5: but particularly after the Renee Good shooting and killing, that

751
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 5: he needed to get involved more and that's what he

752
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Speaker 5: was doing.

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Speaker 2: But this was pretty aggressive stuff that we're seeing on

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Speaker 2: some of the bidoon.

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Speaker 5: Do we on both side, not just him, but yes,

756
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,839
Speaker 5: with the law enforcement law enforcement, do.

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00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 2: We have any confirmation that the BCA that whatever the

758
00:45:41,239 --> 00:45:46,960
Speaker 2: FEDS have regarding crime scene stuff from the pretty shooting,

759
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: et cetera, that that is now being shared. We know

760
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Speaker 2: that's what it was supposed to happen. I saw video

761
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Speaker 2: at some point of BCA folks around that the crime

762
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: scene later. But do we know for sure or that

763
00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 2: there is any meaningful cooperation between the two sides as

764
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Speaker 2: the BCA has demand, the state has demanded.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm glad you're asking that, because that would be

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Speaker 5: another signal that the temperature is going down and everybody's

767
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Speaker 5: going to be involved and we're all going to work together.

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Speaker 5: But that's not happening unless that has happened in the

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Speaker 5: last few hours when I've been here, that the BCA

770
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Speaker 5: does not yet have access to all of the forensic evidence,

771
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Speaker 5: not just with Alex Pretty, but also with Renee Good,

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Speaker 5: and that includes pretty basic stuff. We're talking about the car,

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Speaker 5: the clothing that the victims were wearing, the shellcasings, all

774
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Speaker 5: of this kind of thing that would normally be in

775
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Speaker 5: an investigation. As we know, the Minnesota law enforcement authorities,

776
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:56,839
Speaker 5: the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension, was barred, was stopped, was

777
00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 5: not allowed to go to the crime scene, to enter

778
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Speaker 5: the crime scene. They were barred by the ICE agents

779
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Speaker 5: who were there on the scene. We don't know what

780
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Speaker 5: they did, what kind of evidence they collected at the

781
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Speaker 5: scene with Alex Pretty. All we know is that the

782
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Speaker 5: BCA was not allowed.

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Speaker 2: I do have a.

784
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Speaker 5: Question, and perhaps some of our listeners could answer it.

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Speaker 2: I mean, what good is it.

786
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Speaker 5: When you're there hours or days after and you're on

787
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Speaker 5: the crime scene that has been dress ball last Yeah,

788
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Speaker 5: I mean, what is it?

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Speaker 2: So?

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Speaker 5: No, the short answer is no, I don't believe that

791
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Speaker 5: we have full access to any of that stuff yet,

792
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Speaker 5: and until we do, I think the state authorities will

793
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Speaker 5: will not be satisfied that there is cooperation, that the

794
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Speaker 5: presence of ICE is.

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Speaker 2: Going to lessen decrease here. We don't know any of

796
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Speaker 2: that yet, and so far we haven't seen it. A

797
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: couple people have texted, and there's a million versions of

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Speaker 2: what allegedly pretty was involved in. This was eleven days. Yes,

799
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Speaker 2: that he that it appears that he's he also kicks

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Speaker 2: out a tail light or attempts to kick a tail light.

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Speaker 2: Do you have that detail as well? I don't see

802
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 2: it in the start to be in story, but I

803
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:14,120
Speaker 2: do see it elsewhere, which everything should be included. Whatever.

804
00:48:14,680 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 2: I want to know what happened, all the facts, speculating,

805
00:48:18,040 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 2: So if that's part of the story, we're not running

806
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: from it. All of the facts well allegedly, yeah we should, Yes, well,

807
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Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I I strongly believe yes we should.

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Speaker 2: Our law enforcement people should have all of that and

809
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:35,240
Speaker 2: not just the Department of Homeland Security investigating itself. I'm

810
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Speaker 2: I would be thrilled.

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Speaker 5: If the if the FBI was involved in the FBI

812
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Speaker 5: should be involved.

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Speaker 2: But even your guy who's the old Bill O'Reilly has

814
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Speaker 2: called out your guy Patel saying where the hell is

815
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Speaker 2: the FBI? Then you cannot have Homeland Security investigate Homeland

816
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Speaker 2: Security or Ice. No one is going to believe in

817
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Speaker 2: the credibility of the investigation. Curious and knowing, independant.

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Speaker 5: There is a federal judge here in Minnesota that has

819
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: ordered the federal government to preserve all of the evidence,

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Speaker 5: fearing that some of it may be destroyed quote unquote

821
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Speaker 5: lost or we will never have access to it. So

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Speaker 5: this will play out for a long time. But yeah,

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Speaker 5: we don't have access to a lot of stuff. So

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Speaker 5: when you get on the list, Yeah, we're happy that

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Speaker 5: that we have that the President and the governor of

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Speaker 5: the state are lowering the temperature.

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Speaker 2: But there's no avid where you're going to there's any change. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's going to be yet that's that's the key to

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Speaker 2: this whole thing. Let's make this top of our pause

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Speaker 2: more with the Pat Kessler and then we'll wrap things

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Speaker 2: This latest shooting has many tentacles and can be analyzed

844
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:43,359
Speaker 2: and viewed on a number of levels as well. But

845
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Speaker 2: there is always a political side. Maybe there is no

846
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Speaker 2: way to separate the politics from the rest of it.

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Speaker 2: But when it comes to let's just say the face,

848
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Speaker 2: the current face of Minnesota politics. Sometimes it's hard to

849
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 2: see the forest for the trees because we're not that

850
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Speaker 2: many days removed. But it is it changing or creating

851
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,920
Speaker 2: change in Minnesota politics? What are the early what's the

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00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 2: early evidence to say if it's changing it and how

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Speaker 2: it's changing it on a number of fronts, even including

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Speaker 2: who runs for what.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, this has I do believe changed Minnesota politics just

856
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:26,120
Speaker 5: because of these spontaneous, kind of from the bottom up

857
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Speaker 5: protests in the state of Minnesota over the last few weeks.

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Speaker 2: In the last month.

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Speaker 5: This is the kind of political story that somehow gets

860
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Speaker 5: past everybody that you know. You've got all these different

861
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:45,800
Speaker 5: platforms that we're looking at. We're all consumed with other things.

862
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 5: But this has broken through. This is a story that

863
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 5: has broken through not just in Minnesota, but around the

864
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 5: country and even around the world. The shootings and killings

865
00:51:55,080 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 5: of these two protesters and the response from Minnesota has

866
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:05,160
Speaker 5: been unbelievable. The way that people have come together to

867
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 5: try to protect immigrants, to try to protest what's happening,

868
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:10,360
Speaker 5: to try to show people what's happening.

869
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 2: This is the first place where that's ever.

870
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,080
Speaker 5: Happened, and it's the first place, I think we don't

871
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 5: know for sure yet where President Trump and the immigration

872
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 5: stuff that he's been doing is being shown in a very,

873
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 5: very very bad life. The polling I've seen nationally shows

874
00:52:29,680 --> 00:52:33,840
Speaker 5: that the president on the one issue, the one issue immigration,

875
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 5: that he was way far ahead. People are very, very concerned,

876
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 5: They're upset, they're outraged of The national polls show that

877
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 5: voters are horrified by all the violence here. They strongly

878
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,760
Speaker 5: oppose the tactics. This could change things in this country.

879
00:52:50,760 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 5: You and I have talked for a long time President

880
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:57,799
Speaker 5: Trump deserves credit, tremendous credit for what he did to

881
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:02,440
Speaker 5: stop undocumented grints from coming across the country or the border.

882
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,000
Speaker 2: He shut it down, and it's almost zero now.

883
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 5: And I don't know why he didn't take the win

884
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 5: and move on to something else, but that's the way

885
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:10,719
Speaker 5: it is.

886
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 2: But here in Minnesota, it has also.

887
00:53:12,600 --> 00:53:18,000
Speaker 5: Changed things where we were nationally the laughing stock of

888
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,239
Speaker 5: the country because of the incredible amount of fraud that

889
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:25,200
Speaker 5: has been documented and is still in the pipeline.

890
00:53:25,600 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 2: Two hundred and fifty.

891
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:31,719
Speaker 5: Million dollars of fraud just from one program here in

892
00:53:31,719 --> 00:53:34,760
Speaker 5: the state of Minnesota, and it could be in the billions.

893
00:53:35,239 --> 00:53:38,320
Speaker 5: And that's gone. Who's paying attention to that? Governor Waltz

894
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:41,399
Speaker 5: dropped out of the race, remember that part because of that,

895
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,440
Speaker 5: So that has changed things dramatically. The one person that

896
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 5: I thought in the Republican Party who could actually address

897
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:55,880
Speaker 5: it honorably and independently is the guy you had on

898
00:53:55,920 --> 00:54:02,200
Speaker 5: the air yesterday, Chris Maddel, a Anneapolis attorney who kind

899
00:54:02,200 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 5: of plays you know, he appeals to independence, some Republicans,

900
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 5: some Democrats. He dropped out of the race, So who's

901
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 5: left in the race for Republicans, who is going to

902
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,239
Speaker 5: be a strong candidate for Republicans.

903
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: So that's been affected.

904
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:20,239
Speaker 5: Amy Klobashar is still not in the race, and we're

905
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:24,280
Speaker 5: only days away from the beginning of the electoral process

906
00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 5: for Democrats.

907
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,520
Speaker 2: When are we going to get the official declaration?

908
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,960
Speaker 5: What time is it? It's got to be soon. Yeah,

909
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,799
Speaker 5: And I think has she been waiting.

910
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:35,840
Speaker 2: Because trying to create some distance between this latest tragedy?

911
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,080
Speaker 5: Is that with this That's a great question I from

912
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,799
Speaker 5: some of the people that I've been corresponding with. She's

913
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 5: been kind of hanging back because she has been working

914
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,799
Speaker 5: behind the scenes to try to figure out a way

915
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 5: to lower the temperature. I think a lot of people

916
00:54:54,120 --> 00:54:57,359
Speaker 5: are and and so yeah, we have people, even though

917
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,719
Speaker 5: they're saying some things publicly, including Governor Walls and some Republicans,

918
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 5: they're trying to figure out a way to make this

919
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 5: better in the state of Minnesota. And Amy Klobshar behind

920
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 5: the scenes has been doing that, working with in particular,

921
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:15,960
Speaker 5: some reporting that I've seen is with Susie Wiles, the

922
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,920
Speaker 5: chief of staff with whom she has a relationship of

923
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:22,920
Speaker 5: where she has been working with her on other items

924
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,160
Speaker 5: over the last year or so.

925
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,240
Speaker 2: So, yeah, that is one of the reasons.

926
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 5: But I do believe it's going to come very very

927
00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 5: soon where it has to be within the next few days,

928
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 5: the next week where Amy Kloboshar is going to have

929
00:55:36,560 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 5: to put her head in the ring or not. And

930
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 5: I do believe she's going to do it, and that's

931
00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 5: a very formidable candidate for Republicans.

932
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 2: Once again, are you familiar with Republican Senator Tom Tillis.

933
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 2: I think he's out of North Carolina. Yes, this exchange,

934
00:55:53,960 --> 00:55:57,120
Speaker 2: I think it might have been from earlier today. A

935
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,840
Speaker 2: reporter found him and said, the President called you a loser,

936
00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 2: and Tillius's response was, I am thrilled about that. That

937
00:56:04,600 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: makes me qualified to be Homeland Security Secretary and senior

938
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: advisor to the president. Now, oh, it's a hell of

939
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,279
Speaker 2: a it's a hell of a gotcha line. Oh. The

940
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 2: more serious question is we are hearing not a majority

941
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:25,200
Speaker 2: of but more Republicans, national Republicans, you know, elected office

942
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:32,880
Speaker 2: who seem to be getting at least braver about firing

943
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 2: back and not worrying. So because that's like that's inviting

944
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:41,040
Speaker 2: a full scale verbal attack from the president, right, So

945
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:46,239
Speaker 2: does this mean he's starting to lose a little bit

946
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 2: of his hold. Does this mean that there's there's enough

947
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:52,400
Speaker 2: Republicans moving forward because a bunch of them have not

948
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 2: a bunch, but several have asked pretty direct questions since

949
00:56:56,280 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 2: the Saturday tragedy that and so the question is does

950
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,960
Speaker 2: this lead anything that might be classified as meaningful momentum

951
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,760
Speaker 2: that might eventually catch up with the president. A couple

952
00:57:07,760 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: of things about that.

953
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:11,920
Speaker 5: Tom Tillis has announced he's not running for reelection, so

954
00:57:12,040 --> 00:57:14,680
Speaker 5: you may have answered that question blanks left to give.

955
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:17,480
Speaker 2: But he has always.

956
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:20,920
Speaker 5: Been pushing and pushing against the president gently, but he

957
00:57:21,000 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 5: has done that in the past. He is going to

958
00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:27,080
Speaker 5: be a key vote for the financing and funding of

959
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 5: the state of the US government, and it's going to

960
00:57:30,400 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 5: the funding of ice actually or homeland security over the

961
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 5: next few days. Here's the thing. If you have more

962
00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 5: and more Republicans. You've even got Ted Cruz out there

963
00:57:39,720 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 5: saying this.

964
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 2: Is not a good look.

965
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,919
Speaker 5: You've got Lisa Murkowski, Susan Collins of Maine. You've got

966
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 5: Rand Paul, You've got a number of really solid conservative

967
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:56,840
Speaker 5: even libertarian types in the Republican Party who are very,

968
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 5: very concerned about the opt of this and the actions

969
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 5: of this that is this who we are. So I think, yes,

970
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 5: behind the scenes, you're getting a pretty strong pushback, and

971
00:58:09,560 --> 00:58:12,959
Speaker 5: the president's poll numbers are dropping rapidly and that will

972
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 5: always affect it. But so yeah, you're going to start

973
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 5: seeing it. And in the next few days Democrats say

974
00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 5: they're going to shut down the government by not voting

975
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:26,960
Speaker 5: to fund the government if ICE isn't changed. And I'm

976
00:58:27,000 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 5: not saying abolished, They've already made the mistake of doing

977
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,520
Speaker 5: that once before. But some changes in ICE, like are

978
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:39,439
Speaker 5: you going to wear masks? Are you going to ride

979
00:58:39,480 --> 00:58:42,240
Speaker 5: in unmarked vehicles? Is it going to be illegal for

980
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 5: you to take videos and make video game type things

981
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 5: and post it online.

982
00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 2: Those are the kinds of things that could change. But

983
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 2: I'm not optimistic about anything at this point. Hard to

984
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:55,400
Speaker 2: be at this point.

985
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 5: Yep.

986
00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,160
Speaker 2: We will chat next week. Thank you, yes, sir, Good

987
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: luck to us all. Pat Kessler five six and ten

988
00:59:01,000 --> 00:59:04,080
Speaker 2: o'clock on Channel four. At least for many, many many years.

989
00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:05,960
Speaker 2: We'll come back and wrap up a very busy and

990
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 2: controversial program. Remind you of a Thursday show that should

991
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: be a blockbuster. Stay tuner. It's the Bumper to Bumper

992
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,600
Speaker 2: Show rap. It's brought to you by American Pressure. Much

993
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: time we got. I hope I have time to read this.

994
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to go through it. We were

995
00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:45,480
Speaker 2: talking about Alan Alda. Alan Alda was forgetting who he

996
00:59:45,560 --> 00:59:48,200
Speaker 2: used to be, so Mike Farrell brought Hawkeye back one

997
00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:52,840
Speaker 2: last ride at dawn. Alan Aldo's forgetting things, not big things,

998
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,280
Speaker 2: small things, the small things that make a life feel

999
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,200
Speaker 2: like your own. January twenty twenty six, Los Angeles, Alan

1000
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,720
Speaker 2: Alda was eighty ninenine years old. In eight days he

1001
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:06,680
Speaker 2: would turn ninety. The man who once was Hawkeye, peers, sharp, fast, fearless,

1002
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 2: now lived behind a quiet fog. Parkinson's had taken so

1003
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: much versus hands, the hands that performed surgery on mash

1004
01:00:15,080 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: for eleven years, now trembling. Then his walk, once confident,

1005
01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:24,440
Speaker 2: now careful, measured, afraid, and now his memories not gone,

1006
01:00:25,400 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 2: just fading, like old photographs left in the sun, still there,

1007
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,800
Speaker 2: but harder to feel. Mike Ferrell came anyway every week

1008
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:37,760
Speaker 2: for five years because that's what BJ Honeycutt would do,

1009
01:00:38,560 --> 01:00:41,480
Speaker 2: and that's what Mike Ferrell did. He found Alan in

1010
01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:45,960
Speaker 2: the living room, sitting in his favorite chair, holding something,

1011
01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:50,080
Speaker 2: a photograph. Alan's fingers traced it slowly, again and again,

1012
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: like it might disappear if he let go. Mike leaned

1013
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:58,520
Speaker 2: in and his chest tightened. It was them nineteen eighty three,

1014
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:04,280
Speaker 2: the final episode of Mash Goodbye, farewell and Amen. BJ

1015
01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:09,360
Speaker 2: on the motorcycle, Hawkeye behind him, smiling, the last ride

1016
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 2: out of the war. Hey, Alan, confusion first, then recognition Mike,

1017
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,200
Speaker 2: a small smile, but real you came. I always come.

1018
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:25,680
Speaker 2: Alan lifted the photo. I remember this, you do, the cameras,

1019
01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:31,200
Speaker 2: the crew, the bike. He paused, searching, then his voice broke.

1020
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:35,560
Speaker 2: But I don't remember how it felt. I remember it happened,

1021
01:01:35,600 --> 01:01:39,120
Speaker 2: Alan said, but I don't remember the wind, the freedom.

1022
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,960
Speaker 2: He looked at Mike. I've lost the feeling. Tears followed.

1023
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 2: I'm losing myself, Mike. Mike held his trembling hand. You're

1024
01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: still here, not to me, Alan whispered. I forgot Arlene's birthday,

1025
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: sixty eight years. I forgot silence, the kind that hurts.

1026
01:02:00,080 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 2: That night, Mike couldn't sleep. I don't remember how it felt.

1027
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: The words wouldn't let him rest. Three am, Mike stood

1028
01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 2: in his garage under a dusty tarp a motorcycle untouched

1029
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,520
Speaker 2: for years because every time he saw it he saw

1030
01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:21,440
Speaker 2: Alan nineteen eighty three, the last ride he cleaned, polished,

1031
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:25,400
Speaker 2: checked the engine. His body ached, but his heart didn't care.

1032
01:02:25,920 --> 01:02:32,360
Speaker 2: Five point thirty am Alan Alda's driveway dark, quiet, then Hawkeye.

1033
01:02:33,480 --> 01:02:38,160
Speaker 2: Mike's voice cut through the dawn. You're too slow, lights

1034
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:43,480
Speaker 2: snapped on. Arlene appeared. Then Alan did confused until he

1035
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 2: saw Mike on the motorcycle, and then a smile, big

1036
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 2: reel alive, BJ you're crazy, I know. Fifteen minutes stares,

1037
01:02:56,720 --> 01:03:01,680
Speaker 2: slow steps, careful hands, Alan in insisted I need this.

1038
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:06,440
Speaker 2: They helped him on, just like in nineteen eighty three. Ready, Ready,

1039
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 2: They rode slowly, carefully, two old men at sunrise. Alan

1040
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 2: held on tight, not like before, not casual, like this mattered,

1041
01:03:20,520 --> 01:03:24,640
Speaker 2: like this might be everything. Mike, Alan said, softly, face

1042
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: against his back. I remember now, remember what how it feels, wind, movement, freedom.

1043
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 2: For one hour, Hawkeye was back. When they returned, Arlene

1044
01:03:37,960 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 2: was crying. Alan's eyes were clear, I remembered, he said.

1045
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:47,520
Speaker 2: And that night Alan slept holding the photograph and beside it,

1046
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:53,840
Speaker 2: a new one twenty twenty six, same pose, same smiles.

1047
01:03:54,480 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 2: Older men still together. Man, that's just And it is

1048
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:07,640
Speaker 2: accompanied by a couple photos back then in the last

1049
01:04:07,640 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: episode on the motorcycle in the last episode of Mash

1050
01:04:12,680 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 2: and then next to it the photo of the two

1051
01:04:16,040 --> 01:04:20,800
Speaker 2: of them reunited all those years later, Alan Alda his

1052
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 2: right arm around the chest near the neck of his

1053
01:04:26,120 --> 01:04:30,840
Speaker 2: good friend BJ. What a tremendous piece of writing and

1054
01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 2: what a great story I think to wrap up this program.

1055
01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 2: All precipitated by the news that I mentioned to Kessler

1056
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,720
Speaker 2: that Alan Alda has just turned ninety years old. I

1057
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 2: did not know that he was fighting all those things

1058
01:04:43,960 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 2: that he was fighting, But an absolutely terrific story. I

1059
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 2: found it via Twitter the handle called mister pitt bull

1060
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,880
Speaker 2: Great irony. There nothing pit bullish about the beauty, just

1061
01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:03,480
Speaker 2: the sweetness of that story that he lays out about

1062
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:07,040
Speaker 2: the friendship between two individuals. One of the most iconic

1063
01:05:07,080 --> 01:05:10,960
Speaker 2: television shows in the history of American television. I want

1064
01:05:10,960 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 2: to thank Kessler, who joined at five point thirty. I

1065
01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: also want to thank Kevin Seffert, who joined in studio

1066
01:05:16,600 --> 01:05:19,440
Speaker 2: at three thirty as well. We think guards he's back tomorrow.

1067
01:05:20,560 --> 01:05:23,520
Speaker 2: We hope Sean Salisbury will be part of the festivities tomorrow,

1068
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 2: and we're working on some other things as well. Fan

1069
01:05:26,320 --> 01:05:27,680
Speaker 2: and the Man in the Air is coming up, is

1070
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 2: that correct? That is correct, Timberwolves on the Timberwolves Channel, Yes,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of stuff. So just hit the iHeartRadio

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Speaker 2: app and pick any of our channels and you'll find

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Speaker 2: something I think to your interest the rest of the evening.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching today, thank you for listening, and we

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Speaker 2: will talk to you tomorrow. Beginning of three Siamara Suckers