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Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk a little bit more football

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Speaker 1: from the Post Gazette.

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Speaker 2: He is Paul Seiss. Paulp.

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Speaker 1: I've been bitching all week about the Steelers using basically

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Speaker 1: seven offensive linemen with Washington at tight end and Spencer

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Speaker 1: Anderson is the extra tackle. It's prehistoric. What do you

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Speaker 1: think is it good? Will it beat good teams in

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Speaker 1: big games? What about a playoff game?

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Speaker 3: Well, I think Mark the thing about it is they're

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Speaker 3: doing everything in her power to make sure that Aaron

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Speaker 3: Rodgers is still upright when it gets to the end

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Speaker 3: of the season. So I mean, I don't know that

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Speaker 3: I love it when they're playing against some of the

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Speaker 3: some of the high powered quarterbacks that they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: to see in the playoffs. But in terms of just

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Speaker 3: trying to maul some teams and and and and you know,

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Speaker 3: be able to run the football enough that you don't

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Speaker 3: have Aaron Rodgers taking as many because really the first

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Speaker 3: couple of weeks of the season, I thought Aaron Rodgers

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Speaker 3: was probably never gonna make it the week five because

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Speaker 3: they got hit too much and was getting He was

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Speaker 3: not just taking hits, he was taking big hits. So

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Speaker 3: I think, you know, part of what they're trying to

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Speaker 3: do with the running game is preserve their quarterback. If

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Speaker 3: that sounds if, if it makes any sense to you,

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Speaker 3: I think early in the season, I'm actually okay with it.

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Speaker 3: I really don't know that they have to do a

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Speaker 3: of the year with Aaron Rodgers still being able to walk.

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Speaker 2: No, I get it, but my point would be that.

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Speaker 1: It keeps Aaron Rodgers from being Aaron Rodgers if that's

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Speaker 1: still possible at forty It eliminates some weaponry. A you

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Speaker 1: look at Fiarmouth and John who being minimized.

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Speaker 2: You're trying to win, not just keep him healthy.

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Speaker 1: It reminds me of when Arians his game plan put

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Speaker 1: Bennett risk, but they won more. I was okay with that,

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Speaker 1: right and every coordinator after that protected Ben, but they

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Speaker 3: Well, I guess that's a catch twenty two. I think

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Speaker 3: Aaron Rodgers, like I said, at forty one, forty two

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Speaker 3: years old. You know, it was a year and a

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Speaker 3: half ago or whatever it was. Two years ago he

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Speaker 3: had a major major surgery. He's, you know, not the

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Speaker 3: most nimble of feet right now. They just can slowly,

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Speaker 3: but surely build on Aaron Rodgers. But here's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think that Aaron Rodgers might only have one,

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Speaker 3: you know, weapon that really scares anybody, and that's dk Metcalp.

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Speaker 3: So you know, if you want him to start slinging

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Speaker 3: it around the field, that might be okay, except for

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Speaker 3: I don't know that they have you know, the personnel

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Speaker 3: like they're just trying to build a little bit at

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Speaker 3: a time. But I do really believe that they are

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Speaker 3: trying very hard to make sure that Aaron Rodgers is

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Speaker 1: And I don't even mind it against Cleveland because it

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Speaker 1: will help contain Garrett Is coming Sunday. But but again,

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Speaker 1: when they get the good teams, big games, playoff games,

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Speaker 1: I think you need to do more than this. Uh

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Speaker 1: what's your take in that vein Pall on how little

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Speaker 1: friarm was and Johnna were being underutilized. This offense was

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's real interesting. But it goes back

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Speaker 3: to what I said when they got John Smith, and

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Speaker 3: I said It's interesting. I keep hearing about all the

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Speaker 3: tight ends that he that that, you know, the Arthur

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Speaker 3: if you've got three guys that aren't good blockers, you

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Speaker 3: know what I mean? Like to me, you're right, it

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Speaker 3: kind of goes counter to what it is you're trying

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Speaker 1: Here's a crazy stat, Paul. The Steelers running backs are

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Speaker 1: getting sixty four percent of the offensive touches.

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Speaker 2: Is that good or bad?

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Speaker 3: Uh? Boy? Probably not. It's probably not ideal. But again,

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Speaker 3: I think it goes back to what we've talked about

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Speaker 1: We're talking to Paul's ice to Postcausette here in the

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Speaker 1: Mark Mann Show, Paul's Worse Cleveland at Flato's gone. Five

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Speaker 1: rookies of starting, including Gabriela quarterback. Are the Browns moving forward?

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Speaker 1: Are they just trading?

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Speaker 3: I would like to believe for their sake that they're

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Speaker 3: moving forward on some level. But the problem is it's

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Speaker 3: so badly mangled the quarterback positions that I cannot imagine that.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's not that it's gonna turn out okay,

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Speaker 3: You're thinking exactly like I am, which is that he's

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Speaker 3: going to be a disaster. Suder Sanders is going to

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Speaker 2: Dude.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers have the AFC North locked up, but three

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Speaker 3: Glee well locked up, is probably a little too strong.

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Speaker 3: But I mean, Mark, you look at the other three teams,

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Speaker 3: they all look like they're just not They're not just bad.

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Speaker 3: They're a total disaster, you know. In the Ravens, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 3: Lamar Jackson can come back, but I hope he can

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Speaker 3: that defense is ridiculously bad. I'm glad that the Bengals have,

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Speaker 3: you know, dusted off Joe Flacco to try and you know,

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Speaker 3: Joe Burrow is gonna be out for like eight or

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Speaker 3: nine games, so you know by the time he gets back,

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Speaker 3: they'll probably be buried. So basically not locked up. But

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Speaker 3: it would take in monumental failure on the half of

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Speaker 3: the steel on behalf of the Steelers for them to

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Speaker 3: not win the AFC North at this point, because I

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Speaker 2: No, I agree with all that, And here's the prediction

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Speaker 2: I feel safe making. I think the.

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Speaker 1: Steelers will have a two game lead in the Division

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Speaker 1: when they played Baltimore on December seventh, and the week

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Speaker 1: the hunt for the AFC number one seed overall. Whether

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Speaker 1: which I think is a real long shot because of Buffalo,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I think that's how we'll shape

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Speaker 3: Are you buying the Colts at all?

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I think they'll be in the talk for what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about, number one seed then, but I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they got the best running back in football

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Speaker 2: It's a real renaissance, isn't it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm looking at their offense and you know,

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Speaker 3: what's the guy's name, their coach Stech. Yeah, yeah, the

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Speaker 3: if I'm the Giants, I'm firing this. The bull guy

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Speaker 3: So I don't know yet if I'm buying the Colts,

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Speaker 3: but every week I come away from the weekend saying, boy,

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Speaker 3: they might be the most impressive team in the AFC

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Speaker 3: right now.

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Speaker 1: Paul Quick College Football Talk, what's your take on Penn

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Speaker 1: State's lost to UCLA and what James Franklin.

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Speaker 2: Got to do the rest of the season to keep

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think he'll keep his job. I

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Speaker 3: mean again, the fifty six million dollars, I don't care

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Speaker 3: of those Texas schools with oil and gas money, that's

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Speaker 3: a big buyout. Fifty six million dollars, I think is

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Speaker 3: what I've read his buyout is. It's interesting. I know

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Speaker 3: the rest of their schedule, if they run the table,

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Speaker 3: they'll be in the playoffs. And I'm not saying they

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Speaker 3: maybe his players, the fan base, and the administration. But

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Speaker 3: I mean, I don't see unless they go two and

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Speaker 3: they might, they might ask him to make some changes,

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Speaker 3: But to me, I just think that's a really big

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Speaker 1: What about the quarterback, Drew Aller, Do you think he's

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Speaker 1: arts Manning might drop out of the first round, or maybe,

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Speaker 1: in Manning's case, stay in school another year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think Manning should probably stay in school another year.

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Speaker 3: Drew Llar right now, I don't know that he the

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Speaker 3: interesting because that probably tells me that Drue Law is

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Speaker 3: he could go to the combine and still solidify himself

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Speaker 3: as a top you know, as a first round pick.

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Speaker 3: We've seen stranger things.

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Speaker 2: What about pitt In this went over Boston College.

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Speaker 1: A lot of people are going nuts, just like the

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Speaker 1: Niver Holstein last year. I like the way this new

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Speaker 1: But all they did was be the craft team, right.

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Speaker 3: They'd been a terrible team. And you know, I think

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Speaker 3: one of the things I'll tell you may Heidchel was

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Speaker 3: and actually it wasn't even close. So it's interesting. You know,

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Speaker 3: that goes right, out the window and and and they

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Speaker 3: you know, because I think that honestly, Pat and Mardosey

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Speaker 3: You know, at that point it's like, well, I know

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Speaker 3: to win. It's just kind of comical to me because

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Speaker 3: anybody that watched even a little bit of spring and

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Speaker 1: Paul, great stuff, Thank you so much for taking the time.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk again real soon.

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Speaker 3: All right, thiks Man, talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: That's Paul's eis.

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Speaker 1: This segment brought was by eighty four Lumber Dynasty, partner

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Speaker 1: of the Pittsburgh Steelers. We got more Steelers talk at

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Speaker 1: the bottom of the hour with Jerry Dulac.

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Speaker 2: Get your calls in now.

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Speaker 1: It's your first chance of the day really to break

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Speaker 1: It's always break to hear from the lady callers to

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Speaker 1: We got Jerry Douloc talking Steelers to the bottom of

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Speaker 1: the hour. I think the Steeler are gonna win this game.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be well, it'll be one score game.

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Speaker 1: It'll be close till the end, but I don't think

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Speaker 1: want to see what happens if the Bronze make Zach

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Speaker 1: they just can't get away from drama, even when things

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Speaker 1: Cleveland's got a good defense, Cleveland's got a lot going

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Speaker 1: for it, but they just can't get out of their

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Speaker 1: at quarterback. Look at all the quarterbacks they've used since

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Speaker 1: I think they've started what over forty quarterbacks in games

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's their long term quarterback. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: Maybe, But if Cleveland wins like three games this year,

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Speaker 1: ignominiously in the division series Toronto. You know, really was

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Speaker 1: never in danger of losing that series. They win three games.

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Speaker 2: To one, and the Yankees.

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Speaker 1: You know, with all the national media on their size side.

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Speaker 1: Payroll third in the league this year, traditionally top two,

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