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Do you hear me? 18 00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 19 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 6: Oh you do? 20 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 4: Yeah, you said great. 21 00:00:54,960 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 6: I don't hear you. 22 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 4: Oh okay, oh. 23 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 6: Hey there I go. Thank you, Thank you. 24 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 8: Good I pulled too hard story in my life. Good 25 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:05,039 Speaker 8: to see you, guys. 26 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:08,479 Speaker 4: Good to see you guys to see Nick, how are you? 27 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 9: I'm doing the spectacular. I'm just basking in the. 28 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 7: Area of both you and Dave right now, is that yeah? 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,080 Speaker 7: Because the sun is gonna. 30 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 4: Quite literally basket. 31 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:20,960 Speaker 8: Yes, you got you got the best seat in the house. 32 00:01:21,160 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 4: Yes, you get to hide, look at you. Yeah, I 33 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 4: got here early. That's why he scouted out a spot. 34 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, smarty smart. 35 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:29,360 Speaker 4: It's a bet move. 36 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's a bet move in radios. Be like, you know, 37 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna sit in a place and nobody 38 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:33,759 Speaker 5: can see me. 39 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 6: Once a game out of the sunshine, Yes I am. 40 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 7: But but but the radiant shine that's coming off of 41 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 7: both of you guys with your shades. 42 00:01:41,080 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 9: All man, I'm just basking in your glory. That's all 43 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 9: I'm doing. 44 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 6: Wow, doing it. 45 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 4: I slowed to you though day, but just to say 46 00:01:46,240 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: you look good. 47 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 6: Appreciate that. Yeah, thank you? Yeah? 48 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:48,640 Speaker 7: Yeah? 49 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 4: Yeah? 50 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 5: Uh well you must may be a bye week low 51 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 5: kind of thing, you know, Hey, we got to get 52 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 5: a weekend where we're not to have it distressed about 53 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 5: the Broncos for a minute. I don't know, you even 54 00:01:57,560 --> 00:01:59,400 Speaker 5: stress about the prime and you just call the games. 55 00:01:59,560 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 5: I stressed about the Broncos. But stress about everything. 56 00:02:01,880 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 6: I know you do. I know you do. 57 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 8: No, I mean I I don't know that I stress 58 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 8: about them. There are some seasons that are, you know, 59 00:02:13,919 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 8: more enjoyable than others, and this seems to be one 60 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 8: of those. 61 00:02:17,280 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 6: Yes, it is really enjoyable. 62 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 8: So I'm uh, I'm looking forward to the next game, 63 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 8: the Sunday night game in DC. 64 00:02:23,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 5: But it's also brought elevated expectations like at the same 65 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 5: time that so. 66 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 8: But you know what, if you're I mean, and Nick, 67 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 8: Nick could speak to this. If you're that guy or 68 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 8: you're that team, you you welcome, you welcome all the expectations, right, 69 00:02:40,919 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 8: you want you want all that smoke? 70 00:02:43,480 --> 00:02:45,160 Speaker 5: I mean, I guess you played the game for that, right, 71 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 5: I mean what you know? You don't play it to 72 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 5: be a two and eight team. 73 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 6: Actually play the game for money. But no, I'm just kidding. 74 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,919 Speaker 8: I mean, there's money is important, but yeah, no, you 75 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 8: you play to have a chance to to do something 76 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:02,040 Speaker 8: special in this season. Nobody knows how next year, you know, 77 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 8: I always I do scoff a little bit when the 78 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,080 Speaker 8: teams that are having great years and you know, then 79 00:03:08,160 --> 00:03:11,360 Speaker 8: they at the end they had opportunities really to make 80 00:03:11,400 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 8: a deep run, and for whatever reason they lose a 81 00:03:13,880 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 8: game early in the playoffs and they say, you know what, Man, 82 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 8: next year is going to be the absolute year. Man, 83 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 8: I've seen too many instances I've been involved with teams 84 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,959 Speaker 8: that were right there and then the next year you 85 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,639 Speaker 8: had injuries and everything went sideways. 86 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 9: Well, this is a. 87 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 7: Great time for the Denver Broncos when you really think 88 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:37,560 Speaker 7: about it, because in years pass we haven't really been 89 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 7: talking about them in this particular way locally or even 90 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 7: when you look at it from a national standpoint. Now 91 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:46,120 Speaker 7: for the team to be nine and two, everyone is 92 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 7: going to be looking and all odds are going to 93 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 7: be glued to the Denver Broncos. Even though right after 94 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 7: this bye week they have the Commanders, which they should win, 95 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 7: and the Raiders, who definitely they should should be on 96 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 7: the row. But like you said, Ryan, those expectations are 97 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 7: going to soar and it just reminded me of you know, 98 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 7: when I first arrived here from the Jets coming into 99 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 7: the Broncos organization, where it was Super Bowl the bus. 100 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 7: We're finally getting back to that conversation where we're talking 101 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,360 Speaker 7: about this team and this town and that particular way. 102 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 5: Well, the point that Dave brought up with that was 103 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 5: a very good one is that it can be fleeting, right, 104 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 5: I mean, unless you're a team that's in the middle 105 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 5: of a dynasty, or maybe even the tail end of 106 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 5: a dynasty, like the Chiefs, but unless you already know 107 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,680 Speaker 5: you're that team. And I guess to a certain extent, 108 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,719 Speaker 5: the Chiefs are experiencing what it could be like to 109 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 5: maybe miss. But what is happening this year for the 110 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 5: Broncos is not guaranteed next year. There's nothing that is happening. 111 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:43,719 Speaker 5: You hope you're building towards something. But look at the 112 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 5: Washington Commanders. I mean, they are the example. And we 113 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:47,840 Speaker 5: even said last year when they were in the midst 114 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 5: of their incredible run with Jayden Daniels and everything, it's like, boy, 115 00:04:51,480 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: they do feel like a Prime regression candidate. I didn't 116 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 5: expect them to be a three win team on a 117 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:58,119 Speaker 5: six game losing Street Prime. 118 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 6: The quarterback got hurt. 119 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 5: I mean it did, he did, and he's gotten her 120 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 5: several times now over the course of the season. 121 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 4: But you know what I'm saying, like, yeah, there. 122 00:05:05,880 --> 00:05:09,280 Speaker 5: Are people saying, hey, after last year, Washington really has 123 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 5: nowhere to go but up, and that would be the 124 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: super Bowl. 125 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: But here you are. 126 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 8: I think you're saying in a very long wounded way 127 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 8: that the Broncos need to take advantage and I'm just kidding, 128 00:05:17,880 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 8: Broncos need to take advantage of this year. And I 129 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 8: completely agree, and I think the expectations honestly, uh maybe 130 00:05:24,880 --> 00:05:26,239 Speaker 8: maybe maybe the locker room. 131 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 6: Would not admit this. I don't know. 132 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 8: Players are sometimes reticent to be completely honest. You're going 133 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 8: to say what sort of fits the narrative at the time. 134 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 8: But I think I mean, to me, at nine to two, 135 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 8: and as Nick said, you got Washington, you get the Raiders, 136 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 8: I mean, you've got You've got a chance, And to me, 137 00:05:47,200 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 8: you should set your sights not only on one in 138 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 8: the West, but you want to be the number one 139 00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:54,520 Speaker 8: seed in the AFC. Right, you get a bye week, 140 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:56,240 Speaker 8: and you got to win two games to get to 141 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 8: the super Bowl, both at home, and currently they haven't 142 00:05:58,480 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 8: lost a game at home. Now, if you, you know, 143 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 8: back when they were one and two, if you'd had 144 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 8: honest serum and injected into the players and said, hey, 145 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:10,120 Speaker 8: you know, chances are we're going to go on an 146 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 8: eight game winning streak and by that time you're gonna 147 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 8: have the best record in the AFC. I think that 148 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 8: it said, Man, Okay, we hope, so what do you want? 149 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 8: Right But you're here now. It doesn't matter how you 150 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:25,200 Speaker 8: got here, So you have to focus on taking advantage 151 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 8: of this opportunity that is, and it's a great one 152 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 8: this year for the Broncos. 153 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 7: I'm glad that that you brought up the factor of 154 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:38,040 Speaker 7: opportunity because this reminded me of the time when I 155 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 7: was with the Broncos. You went twelve and three and 156 00:06:40,880 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 7: we lost to Pittsburgh in ANFC championship, and the idea 157 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 7: was like, okay, well we good, you know, not the 158 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:50,120 Speaker 7: fact that we were good about losing. 159 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,279 Speaker 6: Well, we thought that, okay, we'll running back next year. 160 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 6: And what happens is we draft j Cler. 161 00:06:56,960 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll tell you what. 162 00:07:02,360 --> 00:07:05,480 Speaker 7: When things happened in that particular way, you're thinking you're 163 00:07:05,480 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 7: gonna run it back. 164 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 6: That's what we were thinking. 165 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 7: But the attitude was like, well, Jake Plumber, or that's 166 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 7: what it seemed like. We're being told, Well, he wasn't 167 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 7: the guy to get us to where we needed to. 168 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 7: So we needed to go get out, go out and 169 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 7: get a John Elway type of guy or a guy 170 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 7: with John Elway type of arm and it ended up 171 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 7: being Jake Cutler. And the issue was that was that Cutler, 172 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 7: as great as he was as far as arm talent 173 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,560 Speaker 7: was concerned, he wasn't great as being the leader that 174 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 7: we needed. He wasn't Jake in that particular way. And 175 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 7: in my in my opinion, and I can tell you stories, 176 00:07:39,400 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 7: but in my opinion, that started the downslide of the 177 00:07:43,760 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 7: Broncos organization. But the Broncos are not in that window now. 178 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:48,800 Speaker 7: They now have their quarterback. 179 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 6: Of the future. 180 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 7: The thing that comes into questions, and we talked about 181 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,840 Speaker 7: this with Steve at Water yesterday, is the regardless of 182 00:07:55,880 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 7: where the Broncos end up, this coaching staff is going 183 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 7: to be rated for sure, and how do you bounce 184 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 7: back from that? 185 00:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 5: It's totally something to thing about it. I heard your conversation. 186 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 5: I actually agree with Steve. I thought he was ripping 187 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:13,040 Speaker 5: you appropriately. Appropriately because you're coming off this win against 188 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 5: the Chiefs. 189 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 4: You're like, guess what, beans, Joseph is gone. We should start. 190 00:08:15,560 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 9: Talking that, wasn't it. No, no one said that he 191 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 9: was gone. 192 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 7: The idea was that well because other teams have been 193 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 7: in at the court, at. 194 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 6: The head coaching position, and seeing. 195 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 7: How well he's done with the Denver Broncos, he's going 196 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 7: to be one of those top candidates. Whether he leaves 197 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 7: or not, we don't know, but we know that's what 198 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 7: happens with every single team. 199 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 9: So I wasn't pushing Dance Joseph out the door, see you. 200 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 9: I thought it was fun. I thought he just tried 201 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 9: to do your Ryan Evers thing, but it didn't really work. 202 00:08:41,679 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 6: It didn't really work. 203 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:43,679 Speaker 4: I just thought it was funny. 204 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 5: Now, you brought an interesting point, and I've always actually 205 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 5: wondered this. So from from a player's perspective, when it 206 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 5: comes to quarterbacks, what do you put more weight on 207 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,359 Speaker 5: the leadership qualities or the raw athleticism qualities. 208 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 8: I think the elite ones have to have both. I've 209 00:09:04,160 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 8: always thought that the I mean the quarterback has to be, 210 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 8: for lack of a better term, the pilot, right, I mean, 211 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:14,880 Speaker 8: it's got to be every everything runs through him if 212 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 8: you have the right guy. I mean, look at look 213 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 8: at the most successful teams even the. 214 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 6: Last five years. 215 00:09:20,760 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 8: Yeah, and I think we'd be hard pressed to come 216 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 8: up with the team that has had a hell of 217 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,439 Speaker 8: a lot of success that is still unsure about if 218 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:30,719 Speaker 8: they have the right guy now the right guy in 219 00:09:30,800 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 8: terms of leadership. Also, you've got to be able to 220 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 8: play right. You've got to be able to show that 221 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,520 Speaker 8: locker room like, hey, we can get this done, and 222 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 8: I will be a primary reason as to why we 223 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 8: got it done. 224 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 6: So to me, you need both. 225 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 5: But like Jay Cutler's that example, like as you're talking 226 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 5: about it, and I'm not I'm not trying to be 227 00:09:49,160 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 5: negative on Jay. 228 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 4: It's just what you said about it was perfect. 229 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 5: We all knew about the arm talent, we knew about 230 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 5: the athleticism, but the leadership qualities of Jay Cutler have 231 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 5: been discussed for years, right and we've we talked about 232 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 5: Paxton Lynch. And it's another example. I'm not trying to 233 00:10:02,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 5: throw any button to the bus. It's just an example 234 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 5: here of would you almost want like trade some of 235 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 5: that athleticism for a better leader under those circumstances, I. 236 00:10:13,600 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 9: Would say yes. 237 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:16,920 Speaker 7: And here's the other thing that I definitely want to 238 00:10:16,920 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 7: point out is I don't like the concept and idea 239 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 7: that runs rampant within the NFL where you draft a 240 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 7: quarterback and draft him in the first round, all of 241 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 7: a sudden, you take to sleep to see and slap 242 00:10:28,840 --> 00:10:29,480 Speaker 7: it on their chest. 243 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 9: No, that guy doesn't know how to lead. 244 00:10:32,120 --> 00:10:35,079 Speaker 7: And just because he's a quarterback and you the perceived 245 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 7: face of the franchise, I'm not going to allow him 246 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,360 Speaker 7: to leave me. And in this situation with Bo, he's 247 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 7: starting to come into his own. But there are other 248 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,599 Speaker 7: guys that are on this Denver Broncos team, and I 249 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,280 Speaker 7: would say both on offense and defense, who I would 250 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 7: see as being leaders. And Bo can kind of work 251 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 7: himself into that mole. But for me, when the rubber 252 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 7: meets the roll the things get tough, I want to 253 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,760 Speaker 7: lean on those leaders. I know Bo is capable of 254 00:10:59,800 --> 00:11:02,559 Speaker 7: doing a lot of things, but there's certain guys on 255 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 7: the side of the ball that I feel is that 256 00:11:04,320 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 7: the Broncos can. 257 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,800 Speaker 6: Actually lean on and be leader. Like CORNA. 258 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 9: Sutton could be one of those guys. He could be 259 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:10,840 Speaker 9: one of those guys. 260 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 5: Far be it for me to tell you actually played 261 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 5: the game that I disagree with you on this circumstance, 262 00:11:16,200 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 5: but I think it says more about a guy, especially 263 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 5: the quarterback, if he doesn't have the sea on him. 264 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: I understand about earning things, And we've talked about that 265 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 4: all the time. 266 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:25,679 Speaker 9: Yeah, you heard the sea on him just because he's 267 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 9: a quarterback. 268 00:11:26,280 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 5: But you make it a bigger story if you don't 269 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: like from a perception standpoint, the players get asked about 270 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 5: that way more the. 271 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 7: Yeah, but you impact the locker room when you take 272 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 7: a sea and you slap it on the chest of. 273 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 9: A guy who hasn't really earned it. 274 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 7: And I'm telling you I experienced that with Jake Cole, Right, 275 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 7: you just slap it on that. Now he is the captain, 276 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 7: but he doesn't know how to lead, right, and we 277 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:53,120 Speaker 7: saw what happened when he was given the car bloche 278 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 7: to run a team and where did it go? 279 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 5: All Right, sore tiebreaker here, Dave, what do you think 280 00:11:58,559 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: captain for a quarterback? 281 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, there's there's too much disindignation here on the topic. 282 00:12:03,960 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 8: I think I I would I would lean towards Nick 283 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,600 Speaker 8: uh in terms of how a locker room. I don't 284 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 8: think because you are a high draft choice at quarterback, Uh, 285 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 8: that necessarily means you you are deserving to be in 286 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 8: the captain I think that. I think, as Nick said, 287 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 8: I think that's earned and and honestly, the smart coaches 288 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 8: I've always believed can get a feel for how that 289 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 8: team interacts. I mean, coaches are not in the locker 290 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 8: room all that much. My assistant coaches actually have more 291 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 8: interaction with their with their position players than. 292 00:12:43,400 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 6: The head coach. 293 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:47,000 Speaker 8: But you can still, I think, get an idea with 294 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 8: some of the other leaders in terms of how that 295 00:12:49,160 --> 00:12:52,839 Speaker 8: young quarterback is interacting. But I but I would say no, 296 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 8: I mean, coming in you you've got to earn that 297 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 8: from your especially from your veteran players. 298 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 5: Is more about an incoming quarterback if you can't hurt 299 00:13:03,440 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 5: it right. 300 00:13:04,760 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 8: Maybe, I mean, how many of the starting thirty two 301 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:10,160 Speaker 8: quarterbacks in the NFL, and I don't know this are 302 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 8: captains of their respective teams. 303 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,920 Speaker 4: I mean, I would guess all of them. But that's 304 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 4: that's really he's. 305 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 6: The captain of the Cleveland Browns. 306 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:22,199 Speaker 4: Well, it was Joe Flaco. 307 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 8: He was starting, Honestly, I don't know. Okay, I'm not 308 00:13:26,640 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 8: even sure, but he's not even there anymore. So I mean, yeah, 309 00:13:29,920 --> 00:13:31,839 Speaker 8: so that's a that's another Yeah. 310 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 6: I mean I get your point. 311 00:13:32,920 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 8: I think again, to your point, I think quarterback is 312 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,719 Speaker 8: is the pilot. I mean, you know, you want the 313 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 8: plane to take off, and land both safely and the 314 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 8: pilot is in charge, and you can't win consistently. Yeah, 315 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:51,800 Speaker 8: when at that level, at the elite level, and and 316 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 8: honestly even the levels below, unless you have that guy 317 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 8: that either is that guy on his own and I 318 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 8: mean just good enough to be that guy, or you 319 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 8: have built a system around that player and that has 320 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 8: helped him become that guy. 321 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 4: Speaking of the Cleveland Browns is going to start. 322 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: Yeah, I saw that coming out. I'm excited to see 323 00:14:12,400 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 6: what he can do. 324 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, me too. 325 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:18,800 Speaker 5: What did you and I I don't want to get 326 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 5: into a hot take. 327 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 8: You're sitting in the in the room, we're sitting outside 328 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 8: the front of the King Supers. Yes, and you are 329 00:14:27,320 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 8: sitting directly in the sun, and you were I'm worried 330 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 8: about some sort of melanoma. I'm just saying you are 331 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 8: frying anyway. 332 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 5: What was your well? And I dressed for more when 333 00:14:37,880 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 5: the sun goes down flannel? Well, yeah, because I dressed 334 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:41,240 Speaker 5: for when the sun goes down. 335 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 4: This is going to be perfect. Good lord, I'm going 336 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 4: to be dressed perfectly in like two hours. 337 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 6: Be a sweaty heat. But Alicia'll look. 338 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 5: At So what's your question? Well, because there's a lot 339 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 5: of hot takes flying around about what Door Sanders did 340 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 5: this last week versus Baltimore. 341 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 4: There's a lot of people saying it was just an 342 00:14:54,200 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 4: abject disaster. 343 00:14:55,280 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 5: And we seen backup quarterbacks have to go in and 344 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 5: spot duty and some of them sometimes do surprise and 345 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 5: play well and sometimes it isn't so great. So I 346 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:05,360 Speaker 5: don't want to get into a hot take about what 347 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 5: he looked like. I'd like to be a little more 348 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,160 Speaker 5: forward thinking of what he can do from here. 349 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:10,840 Speaker 4: Yeah, but what did you think of his performance? 350 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,920 Speaker 8: I will be honest about it. I didn't see one 351 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 8: snap of that game in getting ready for the Broncos game, 352 00:15:16,960 --> 00:15:20,600 Speaker 8: but saw some of the highlights, you know, and everybody's 353 00:15:20,640 --> 00:15:23,360 Speaker 8: made a big deal, and I think there's there's validity 354 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 8: to it in terms of him not taking any snaps 355 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 8: during the week. I mean, you're asking a lot. You're 356 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 8: asking a lot for a quarterback. I don't care who 357 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 8: the backup quarterback is. You got to go in and 358 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 8: play however long you got to play. And you haven't 359 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 8: taken a snap with the ones the entire week. And 360 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 8: I heard he hadn't taken a snap with the ones 361 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 8: the entire season. I mean, that's that's just not going 362 00:15:42,800 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 8: to turn out well. So that's pretty typical, right, I mean, 363 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 8: the second quarterback doesn't get many snaps with the ones 364 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 8: I mean, I would say in the NFL, ninety eight 365 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 8: percent of the snaps during the week are taken by 366 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 8: the guy who's going to be playing that quarterback. 367 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 9: Usually they are. 368 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 7: But here's why I say, Well, it was malo practice, coach, 369 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 7: and malo practice only have for Kevin Fancers. Because you 370 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 7: have two young quarterbacks. Neither one of those guys are 371 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 7: veteran improving guys. Like in the case that what Dave's 372 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 7: talking about, you have a veteran improving guy. 373 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 9: So that backup quarterback, he's not gonna get a lot 374 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 9: of snaps, right. 375 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:24,560 Speaker 7: But knowing as though you have two rookie quarterbacks, and 376 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 7: we've seen injuries pile up in the NFL and they 377 00:16:27,800 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 7: could happen at the quarterback position, how is it that 378 00:16:30,520 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 7: you did not give Sha Doris Sanders any first team reps? 379 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 9: Because if you go and you. 380 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 7: Watch the game, you can see some of the things 381 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 7: that we saw at CEU are showing up. But when 382 00:16:42,200 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 7: you don't have that timing, that rhythm, that you've worked with. 383 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 7: With the wide receivers, it's gonna prove to be problematic. 384 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 7: And no, by the way, the Cleveland Browns offensive line, 385 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 7: it didn't make a difference if it was Joe Flacco, 386 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 7: Joe Montana, or Joe Dirt. 387 00:16:56,360 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 9: It doesn't make a difference. Yes, Joe Dirt. Yes, with 388 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 9: the mullet do it doesn't make a difference. 389 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 7: Want to see right, But the idea is that that 390 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 7: offensive line could not protect any of those guys. So 391 00:17:09,600 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 7: whether it was Dylan Gabriel or Shador Sanders, they were 392 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 7: going to be in trouble. But scheme giving him reps, 393 00:17:16,720 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 7: giving him comfortable, then. 394 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 9: That would have allowed him to go out and perform well. 395 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 7: But because he didn't perform as well as people anticipated. 396 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 7: But I don't know how could they have anticipated. He 397 00:17:27,600 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 7: hadn't had a lot of damn reps. 398 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 4: So you're saying he was sabotage. 399 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 9: You said it, but I'll repeat it again. Hell, yes, 400 00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 9: how many? 401 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 8: How many reps do you think Jared Stidham gets during 402 00:17:37,040 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 8: the week, And Jared Stidham is a veteran quarterback, the 403 00:17:40,480 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 8: under yeah, it doesn't doesn't get. 404 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:46,560 Speaker 6: Many, doesn't get many of any But what you. 405 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 9: Said is Standham is a veteran quarterback. 406 00:17:49,760 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 7: He's been in his backup row in three different places, 407 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 7: from the Patriots to the Raiders to the. 408 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 6: Demos, so he knows how to handle it. 409 00:17:57,840 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 9: He knows how to handle it. 410 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,800 Speaker 7: You take a rookie quarterback who was drafted in a 411 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:04,640 Speaker 7: fifth round and you put him in that situation, you're 412 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 7: not setting him up for no. 413 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:09,680 Speaker 8: I think I think there's reason in what Nick says 414 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 8: is true. Anybody who expected shad Or in those circumstances 415 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:16,800 Speaker 8: to come out and light it up just doesn't understand football. 416 00:18:16,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 8: But the reality is the Browns obligation during that week 417 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,880 Speaker 8: is to get Dylan Gabriel ready. 418 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 6: To be the starting quarterback. He's a rookie too, right, 419 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 6: I mean. 420 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,760 Speaker 8: You got to get him almost, if not. 421 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 6: Every single rep during the week. 422 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,120 Speaker 8: And if something happens, well, you know, you know you've 423 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:37,680 Speaker 8: got your holding the bag of doo doo. 424 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 6: That's it. 425 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 3: Now. 426 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:40,439 Speaker 6: How many I mean Shooter is going to be the 427 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:41,320 Speaker 6: start of this week? 428 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 8: How many reps do we think Bailey's Zappi is going 429 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 8: to get? 430 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 6: Very few? Probably none door you know, sprains an ankle 431 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 6: or whatever. 432 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,679 Speaker 8: I mean, Bailey Zappie may look a little better than 433 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 8: Shoulder did last week because he's played in the league 434 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:59,399 Speaker 8: a little bit, but he's not He's not going to 435 00:18:59,440 --> 00:18:59,840 Speaker 8: be ready. 436 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:03,679 Speaker 7: See, I think with what you said, Dave, they're gonna 437 00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 7: give Bailey Zappi some reps. Say like in a giving period, 438 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 7: there's fifteen plays in the period. 439 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,120 Speaker 9: Let's just say Chador gets ten. 440 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 7: Bailey Zappi is going to get maybe five or three 441 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,800 Speaker 7: of those reps in my opinion, because once again they 442 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 7: are preparing at this point, which they should have done 443 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 7: before for the worst. 444 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 9: Right. 445 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,199 Speaker 8: You know, Bailey Zappi is you know that works. You 446 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 8: got to get your starting quarterback ready to go. 447 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 7: But once again, looking at this, in this situation, you 448 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,439 Speaker 7: got a rookie in Shador Riyan's gonna be making his 449 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 7: first NFL Star in the regular season game. Bailey Zappi 450 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 7: has been here before, so he may not need as 451 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:45,800 Speaker 7: many reps to get up to speed. 452 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 6: He ain't gonna get any. 453 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 8: You have to get Shador Sanders as many reps as 454 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 8: you possibly can during the week, and I mean almost 455 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:56,919 Speaker 8: all of them. 456 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 7: See, once again, that sounds great. You were coached and 457 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 7: you're applying. 458 00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:04,480 Speaker 6: Lots I'm high school coach. Well, well, the way you're. 459 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 7: Still a coach, right, Well, you're applying logical thinking to 460 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 7: the situation. 461 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 6: I'm applying how they think in the NFL. 462 00:20:10,040 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 9: You played too, Yeah, but but I played. But based 463 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 9: on what Kevin Stefanski has done thus far, to me, 464 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:16,040 Speaker 9: it's like, well. 465 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:22,159 Speaker 8: How many reps did Jake Plumber before they drafted Jay Color? 466 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,200 Speaker 8: How many reps did Jake Plumber get during the week 467 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,879 Speaker 8: preparing for a game? I already know most of them, Yes, 468 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 8: most of the They're not trying to get the second team. 469 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:33,560 Speaker 8: I can't think who the second team guy was. Well, 470 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 8: he was your teammate. 471 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 7: You can't either, Well, we had Alex Vampelt, we had 472 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 7: Jake Cutler. 473 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 8: No before Cutler, who was the Alex wasn't the backup back? 474 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:43,800 Speaker 6: Who was right? 475 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:47,360 Speaker 8: Who was the backup quarterback on the AFC championship team. 476 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:49,920 Speaker 8: I think it was was it Canal? Might have might 477 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 8: have been Danny Canell. Yeah, I'm just saying those guys, 478 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:55,080 Speaker 8: I mean, they had their reps, have to be watching 479 00:20:55,160 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 8: film and and taking mental reps on the field as 480 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 8: they look and see. Okay, uh, you know I'm standing 481 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:03,320 Speaker 8: behind the snap. What covers the end. Where would I 482 00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 8: go with the ball? 483 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 6: Here? 484 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 8: You know that's that's those are the reps. The backup 485 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 8: quarterback in the NFL gets all right. 486 00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 4: Well, come back. I have us more thoughts and questions 487 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 4: on this situation. 488 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 6: Money to get you? What kind of what kind of 489 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 6: SPF fifty? 490 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 5: You know, I'm pretty pale. I'm probably gonna need double that, 491 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 5: but I don't even know if. 492 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 4: They sell that. 493 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 6: Here the break, Just buy my coconut. 494 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 4: We gotta get a video on that afity of Dave Lathery. 495 00:21:27,640 --> 00:21:29,119 Speaker 6: Take your shirt off, I'll put you them on your back. 496 00:21:31,880 --> 00:21:35,720 Speaker 5: We're off rolling here live from Kicksoomers here at Colorado 497 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 5: and Yale. 498 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 4: Come on down and say hi to us. We need 499 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:40,359 Speaker 4: your help benefiting the Food Bank of the Rockies. We'll 500 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 4: write back. O KA. 501 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:47,320 Speaker 2: Live from King Supers on Colorado and Yale till nine pm. 502 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 1: It's the fifth Anuel Koa Hot Today food Drive benefiting 503 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: Food Bank of the Rockies. 504 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 3: Here's Koa Sports. 505 00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 6: Hi, welcome back. 506 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 5: We are live from King Supers here at Colorado and Yale. 507 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 5: Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson five six six nine 508 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,919 Speaker 5: zeros or k Wait Common Spirit Health text line. If 509 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 5: you want to interact with us, all sorts of texts 510 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 5: coming in here on the text line. 511 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 4: This one was really good, Dave. 512 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 5: Applying sunscreen to a bear Ryan's torso is not the image. 513 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 8: No, it's not, you know, listen, it's it's hazardous duty. 514 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 8: I mean, it's not something that I drove in looking 515 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,719 Speaker 8: forward to I accomplished it. I get a little bit 516 00:22:28,760 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 8: too much on your eyebrow, the left eyebrow. I apologize 517 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 8: for that, but I feel like I've done my civic 518 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,040 Speaker 8: duty to making sure that you stay as healthy as 519 00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 8: you possibly can. 520 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 9: Is there a hazardous pay for that too as well? 521 00:22:39,080 --> 00:22:45,240 Speaker 8: Well, I've been at iHeart a long time. That would 522 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 8: be my answer. I know how the pay system works. 523 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 6: Listen. 524 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 5: And if you get Carpal, Tulle or other for your risk, 525 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 5: the rubbies, I don't think they're gonna cover that. 526 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 6: No, I don't think so either. 527 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, oh, hey, by the way, that mole 528 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 5: back there you said, I should okay. 529 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 6: On your touching it again? 530 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 4: Sorry, not touching it again? 531 00:23:06,400 --> 00:23:08,919 Speaker 6: No, no, we're not doing that. 532 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 4: Listen here. 533 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:13,600 Speaker 5: Do backup quarterbacks work out extra on their own to 534 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 5: make up for the lack of reps. 535 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,320 Speaker 4: If no, why not? Thanks really enjoyed the show. 536 00:23:17,359 --> 00:23:19,240 Speaker 6: I think the answer Nick is yes, they do. 537 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 9: Well, Yeah they do. 538 00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:23,399 Speaker 7: And when I was in San Francisco, there was a 539 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 7: VR system that for Nick Bullen's virtual reality. 540 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:29,439 Speaker 9: Yeah versus reality. It was great for him and I 541 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:30,600 Speaker 9: actually sat in on a. 542 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:33,600 Speaker 7: Session with him where when Jimmy Garoppolo took all the 543 00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 7: first team reps, he was able to go back and 544 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 7: watch the same reps and just figure out how he 545 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:43,040 Speaker 7: would have himself made certain decisions. So VR technology should 546 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:45,360 Speaker 7: be using NFL. And if you have a backup quarterback 547 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,879 Speaker 7: on multiple then that give those guys an opportunity to 548 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 7: get those live rep that they didn't get in actual practice. 549 00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,040 Speaker 4: One hundred percent. One more thing on your door. 550 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:55,920 Speaker 5: And then I want to ask you guys about Brandon Cooks, 551 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 5: who looks like he's going to be released from the 552 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 5: New Orleans Saints, if we have interest here. But with Shador, 553 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: I'm trying to in my mind, I guess, compartmentalize or 554 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,639 Speaker 5: contextualize the situation he's walking into. He's on a two 555 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,360 Speaker 5: and eight team now they are also playing a two 556 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 5: and eight team in the Raiders this weekend. But how 557 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 5: much do you judge a performance from a young quarterback 558 00:24:17,960 --> 00:24:20,920 Speaker 5: coming into a situation like that where it's understanding the 559 00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 5: team is not performing well. If he plays great, then 560 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: that's that's awesome. But if he plays poorly, I I'm 561 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 5: not going to like, Okay, well, that's what he is 562 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 5: and I because it's a bad situation all around, isn't it. 563 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 8: Well, yeah, it's a bad situation for both teams. I 564 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,520 Speaker 8: think he'll be judged. I mean, I think the fans 565 00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 8: will judge him if he plays well. It won't be 566 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 8: the fans leaving saying, well, he played well, but he 567 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,119 Speaker 8: played well against Vegas. It'll be like, damn, he should 568 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,000 Speaker 8: have been playing a lot earlier than he's playing. Okay, right, 569 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 8: I think from an organization standpoint, the guys that get 570 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 8: paid to make decisions, we'll go back and look at 571 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 8: that film and they'll see how he operated, How was 572 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 8: he in the pocket, how is his timing, how is 573 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 8: his accuracy, how were his feet in the pocket? I'll 574 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 8: say this, I will be more than a little surprised 575 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,680 Speaker 8: if Chador does not play pretty well. I think Sunday 576 00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 8: is a game that I don't play fantasy football, but 577 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,960 Speaker 8: I would think Shadure is gonna have pretty good numbers 578 00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 8: on a lousy as you said, lousy two and eighteen. 579 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 7: Yeah, and then also you factor in you got Creishawn 580 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 7: Jenkins as you're running back and having a decent, physical, 581 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 7: consistent running game is a quarterback's best friend. Having someone 582 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 7: you can hand it to, you you can dump it 583 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 7: off to and the checkdowns. 584 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 9: That's great. 585 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 7: Now comes back to timing and rhythm, which should be 586 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 7: better than it was in the game against Baltimore. But 587 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 7: now I want to see how creative Kevinson Fancy will be. 588 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,239 Speaker 7: Knowing as though Shador is now your starter, can you 589 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,160 Speaker 7: cater your game plan to fit his skill set? 590 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 9: And that's what you're supposed to do as a coach. 591 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 7: But I know some coaches are held bent on hey, 592 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 7: here is my system, you run my system. But to me, 593 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,280 Speaker 7: I don't subscribe to that idea because your job as 594 00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 7: a coach is trying to get the best performance out 595 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 7: of your player and the only way you can do 596 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,399 Speaker 7: that is by doing what they know how to do 597 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:20,199 Speaker 7: or what they excel they're doing. So I expect to 598 00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:23,399 Speaker 7: see a better performance from Shador, even though it is 599 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,480 Speaker 7: against the Raiders. But to me once again, you play 600 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 7: who was in front of you. You just want to 601 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 7: make sure that hey listen the performance. Now, with a 602 00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 7: full week of work, it should look a whole lot better. 603 00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 5: I certainly hope. So I think we're all rooting for him. 604 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 5: I want to ask you about Brandon Cooks. As he 605 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:44,160 Speaker 5: requested a release from the New Orleans Saints today, they 606 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 5: honored that he is subject to waivers, even as the 607 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 5: best have bet found out that after the trade deadline 608 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 5: you have to you're subject to waivers. 609 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,440 Speaker 4: So, by the way, speaking of that trench. 610 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 5: Suirfield signed with the Arizona Cardinals today. 611 00:26:55,000 --> 00:26:58,719 Speaker 4: But so Brandon Cooks. It's an interesting deal, right. 612 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 5: I think a lot of Broncos fans wanted the Broncos 613 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 5: to be more aggressive towards wide receiver maybe at the 614 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:03,600 Speaker 5: trade deadline. 615 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 4: Maybe that's more of an off season conversation. 616 00:27:06,800 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 5: If you do, say claim him off waivers, you bring 617 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,560 Speaker 5: him in, what would that mean for the receiving room 618 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 5: or do you have interest in that at all? 619 00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 8: First of all, I have always thought Brandon Cooks was 620 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 8: a was a very good receiver. I know that he really, 621 00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:27,119 Speaker 8: I mean, he hasn't had a lot of national attention. 622 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 8: But every since he's played on a whole bunch of teams, 623 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:33,200 Speaker 8: but every single team he goes to he produces. 624 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 6: I'm not sitting here. 625 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 8: In front of of his numbers, but his career numbers 626 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:42,679 Speaker 8: I think would substantiate that he's still at his age, 627 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:47,000 Speaker 8: can run, He's still able to take the top off coverages. 628 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 8: So for me, it would boil down to what am 629 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 8: I going to do with Marvin Mims? Am I am I? 630 00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 8: If I'm Sean Payton, am I going to incorre Marvin 631 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 8: Mims more in the offense? I think Marvin had How 632 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 8: many snaps did Marvin Mims had against the Chiefs? Maybe ten? 633 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,960 Speaker 8: I mean he didn't he didn't have many. So if 634 00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,200 Speaker 8: if you've come to the conclusion, which which last year, 635 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,479 Speaker 8: in the second half of the year, Marvin became a 636 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 8: really big part of this offense, right but for whatever reason, 637 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 8: and he had the concussion, I get that, But he 638 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:24,119 Speaker 8: didn't have a concussion on Sunday. 639 00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 6: He had fifteen fifteen snaps sorry sixty two. If you've 640 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:27,640 Speaker 6: come to. 641 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 8: The conclusion that he's so valuable on special teams that 642 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,760 Speaker 8: we're going to limit his opportunities on offense, he's not 643 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,239 Speaker 8: going to be a guy that will get tick like 644 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 8: Franklin and like Bryant. Okay, first, if that's the case, 645 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 8: you probably overdrafted him. But second, if that's the case, 646 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 8: then I would have an interest in seeing seeing about 647 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 8: Brandon Cooks. 648 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 6: I mean I really would. 649 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 8: If you're saying, if you're Chean Payton, you're saying, hey, listen, 650 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 8: we love Mems. It's just we're just trying to get 651 00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 8: him back end. He's going to be a big part 652 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:05,480 Speaker 8: of what we do this last or these last six games. 653 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,760 Speaker 6: Then I probably pass on Cooks. 654 00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 5: I like the idea of a veteran in that room. 655 00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:12,960 Speaker 5: I like and the guy that has had runs into 656 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 5: the postseason. I mean, that's that's the reason for me 657 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 5: more than anything, more than a and I completely agree 658 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,560 Speaker 5: with you because they similar type of wide receiver, especially 659 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 5: what they bring as far as their speed goes. 660 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,720 Speaker 4: That's my lean is the veteran presence. 661 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 8: I just every time I think of Brandon Cooks and 662 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 8: watch a game that he's playing in, he's always opened. 663 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 6: He's opened middlefield. 664 00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 8: Yep, he runs a nine route, he's behind the defensive back. 665 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 8: You know, he's always making I have no idea how 666 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 8: many career catches he has, but he has been a 667 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 8: productive receiver for most, if not all, of his career. 668 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:51,360 Speaker 7: I don't think the Broncos actually need Brandon Cooks. The 669 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 7: idea is that you have a bevy of young wide 670 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 7: receivers on your team, and you have a veteran guy 671 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 7: already got two of them. I mean call a sudden 672 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 7: being your wide receiver one. But you wouldn't really think 673 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,600 Speaker 7: of it if you look at the targets and receptions 674 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 7: of the past couple of weeks Goinger Troy Franklin. 675 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,280 Speaker 9: And then the whole issue with with Marvin Mahms. 676 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:17,280 Speaker 7: I don't know what the problem is internally, but I 677 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,640 Speaker 7: know that every time that I watched him on vertical passes, 678 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,120 Speaker 7: he's open. Now, you go back to the Chargers game, 679 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 7: there was one where you know there was suite one 680 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,479 Speaker 7: to call in and one to Marvin Mahms that Bo 681 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,360 Speaker 7: could not connect on. The coaching point for me would 682 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 7: have been for Marvin is don't reach out for your 683 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 7: hands right away because it slows you down. 684 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,120 Speaker 9: But we sho't. 685 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 6: We see that. 686 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:42,080 Speaker 7: The exposiveness is that we see it on every special 687 00:30:42,160 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 7: team's type of play and even last year, like Dave mentioned, 688 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 7: we didn't see Marvin Mams utilize that much. Then we 689 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 7: saw in the in the game against the Bengals too 690 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,600 Speaker 7: exposed to plays. So the question is why is he 691 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 7: not playing more in that particular way? 692 00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 6: And I don't think it's concussion wise. 693 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,840 Speaker 4: No, I don't think. So we'll come back to this. 694 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 5: Seasons seven hundred and twenty nine receptions, nine six hundred 695 00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 5: and ninety seven yards. 696 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,520 Speaker 4: He's three hundred and three yards away from ten thousand. 697 00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 6: So what's what's the average per catch over the course 698 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 6: of his career? 699 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 4: Thirteen point three. 700 00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 8: That's not bad. That's pretty I mean, that's that's not bad. Again, 701 00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 8: to reiterate, if if Memes is gonna get some more 702 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:20,720 Speaker 8: tick and they're gonna use him, then I would say no. 703 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,200 Speaker 8: But if you're not, and Mems is, you know a 704 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 8: guy that gets a few plays here in a jet sweep. Here, 705 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 8: you've got Franklin, You've got Pat Portland, Pat Bryant. Who's 706 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,720 Speaker 8: who's next, Little Jordan Humphrey. Well, they brought him back 707 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 8: for a reason because he blocks and he's good on 708 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 8: special teams. Yeah, I would take a look. If Memes 709 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,800 Speaker 8: was not in my sort of forecast. 710 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Live from King Supers on Colorado and Yale till nine pm. 711 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:57,640 Speaker 1: It's the fifth annual KOA Holiday Food Drive benefiting Food Bank. 712 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 6: Of the Rockies. 713 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 3: Here's KOA Sports. 714 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 4: Hi, welcome back. 715 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 5: We are live until nine o'clock here at King Supers 716 00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 5: on Colorado and Yale to help those in need with 717 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 5: Koe's Holiday Boot Drive benefiting Boot Bank of the Rockies. 718 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:15,560 Speaker 5: Donate Turkey's food or cash through a QR code is 719 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: presented by Redbird Farms and their generous donation of four 720 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:22,000 Speaker 5: thousand pounds of chicken breasts and Colorado Buick GMC dealers. 721 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,920 Speaker 5: Visit your local GMC dealer for the full Sierra Family lineup. 722 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 4: Ryan Edwards, Nick Ferguson. 723 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 5: We're gonna be here till six o'clock and then Benjamin 724 00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 5: Albright and Zach Sears are gonna take you into the night. 725 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 5: Nine o'clock. We're gonna be here at King Supers in 726 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 5: Colorado and Yale. Please come down and say hi to us. 727 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: I had a lot of. 728 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 5: Broncos fans already coming up and showing us their Broncos gear, 729 00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 5: which was pretty cool. And we're obviously gonna continue to 730 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 5: talk about the Broncos, all things Colorado sports throughout the 731 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560 Speaker 5: rest of the afternoon. A couple of texts, and this 732 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,560 Speaker 5: is why, I mean, this is why I love sports 733 00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 5: talk radio for the most part, but also I love 734 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 5: our listeners. Back to back texts here, Nick ferguson Dave 735 00:32:57,320 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 5: Logan is right as usual. 736 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,200 Speaker 4: Very next, totally disagree with you, Dave. 737 00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 5: Why Because Desmond Howard was a first round pick and 738 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:07,960 Speaker 5: he was arguably the best special teamer in NFL history. 739 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 5: And I'm not sure about this, but I think he's 740 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 5: a Hall of Famer so and I think that's a 741 00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 5: response that. The second one is response to Marvin Mims 742 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 5: being overdrafted if he's just a returner for you, and 743 00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:21,920 Speaker 5: I'm I'm kind of inclined to agree with that because 744 00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 5: he's been an All Pro special teamer. 745 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 4: He is not even if he does very little. 746 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,240 Speaker 5: To nothing for the rest of the season on offense 747 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,719 Speaker 5: and he just is an All Pro or Pro bowler 748 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:35,800 Speaker 5: as a returner for you, I'm great with it. I 749 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 5: would bring him back here, I would give him contract 750 00:33:38,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 5: extensions to be that for your team. That is not 751 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 5: something you take that for granted when you don't have it, 752 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:46,719 Speaker 5: And when he was out for those couple of games. 753 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 4: We felt that field. 754 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,800 Speaker 5: Position, We felt that on offense when the team went 755 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 5: out there. So I'm in agreement with the Texter there. 756 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 5: There is really nothing that will happen from here on 757 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,719 Speaker 5: out where I'm gonna view Marvin Mims is an overdraft 758 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 5: even if he doesn't play another staff of offense. 759 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:08,920 Speaker 7: See, I've never viewed Marvin Mims as being overdrafted. Now 760 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 7: what I will say is he being underutilized. 761 00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:13,560 Speaker 4: Well, we agree on that. 762 00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 7: He is because when I think about a guy who 763 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 7: I played against who was a Hall of Famer, Devin Hester, 764 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 7: he was a monster returning the ball in any aspect 765 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:28,479 Speaker 7: of the kicking game. And Marvin Mims shows similar skill set. 766 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,920 Speaker 7: But that skill set can be utilized as a wide 767 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 7: receiver because you're creating space for him to operate. And 768 00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 7: I'm thinking maybe maybe that's the reason that we've seen 769 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 7: the Broncos throw the ball parallel to the line of 770 00:34:43,400 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 7: scrimmage consistently with Marvin Mims. But I look at it 771 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 7: this way, Ryan, You're doing your offense, your quarterback and 772 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 7: Marvin Mims a disservice by having him to run those 773 00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 7: plays because for me, he would be best served and 774 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 7: it would help bowl Nicks in the passing game if. 775 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 9: Marvin Mams is running vertical. 776 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 7: But what we saw last year against the Cincinnati Bengals, 777 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 7: that wasn't an anomaly. I mean, coming up to that 778 00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 7: particular point, Coach Payton was not utilizing him in the 779 00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 7: offense in the way that I felt that fits his 780 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 7: skill set. The reason why I can't even begin to 781 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 7: tell you all I know is watching Marvin Mahms do 782 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,200 Speaker 7: certain things in a vertical passing game, that is what's needed. 783 00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:30,880 Speaker 7: And we've had so many media members and fans complaining 784 00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,840 Speaker 7: last year, especially this year about the Broncos not taking 785 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,280 Speaker 7: many shots down the field. 786 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 9: Will I mean, you got a guy who has. 787 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 7: Those capabilities, and I know both you and Dave were 788 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 7: talking about Brandon Cooks. 789 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 9: He's not needed. 790 00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 7: The Broncos didn't really need to make a move doing 791 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 7: the trade dead line, so they didn't because they realized, 792 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 7: or at least someone realizes that you have the guys 793 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,120 Speaker 7: inside the building. 794 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:55,359 Speaker 6: The question is. 795 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,920 Speaker 9: Are you utilizing them? That's what it is, and to 796 00:35:58,960 --> 00:35:59,719 Speaker 9: this moment you're not. 797 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:01,400 Speaker 4: So what do we take away from that? 798 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,399 Speaker 7: Well, what I take away from it is that you're 799 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 7: looking at your players and you're not put them. 800 00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 9: In advantageous positions. Wow, is that stubbornness. 801 00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:13,880 Speaker 7: I can't begin to tell you all I know, just 802 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 7: my football knowledge and being a defensive player and coach 803 00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 7: that those types of guys in a vertical. 804 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 9: Passing game, they give you issues. Now, I'll tell you this. 805 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 7: I saw Tyreek Hill up close and personal and when 806 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,040 Speaker 7: he was in Kansas City. 807 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 9: I can tell you that cheat, it was real. He 808 00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 9: was real. Right, And you have a guy not. 809 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:36,560 Speaker 7: Exactly like Tyreek Hill, but Marvin Mims can give you 810 00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 7: certain things. 811 00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 6: You gotta utilize them.