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Speaker 2: plus Chad Brendle on the Bearcats. You see has won

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Speaker 2: three consecutive games. Remember where we were two weeks ago

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Speaker 2: today when you see lost to West Virginia on a

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Speaker 2: Thursday night and Wes Miller was nearly brought to tears

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Speaker 2: after the game. You see has not lost since then.

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Speaker 2: That night, Wes Miller seemed like a dead man walking.

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Speaker 2: Now maybe not so much. We'll get to all of

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Speaker 2: that and so much more with Chad coming up in

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Speaker 2: forty minutes. We've got some Bengals to get to a

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Speaker 2: little bit later on some other college basketball stuff as well.

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Speaker 2: We played this audio on Tuesday show and it's made

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Speaker 2: the rounds and we strole it from Jeremy Row of

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Speaker 2: Fox nineteen. But there were a lot of people covering

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Speaker 2: the team in Goodyear who had the comments had this

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Speaker 2: quote Hunter Green last year, Hunter Green, when he was

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Speaker 2: on the mound was mostly terrific. Hunter Green, though, was

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Speaker 2: And we have beaten this into the ground. One of

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Speaker 2: for the first time in his big league career, get

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Speaker 2: chances of winning only get better. Last season, though, it

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Speaker 2: wasn't just that he missed time. There was exasperation. Maybe

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Speaker 2: wearing an ear piece and a Bengals cap like we

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Speaker 2: doing everything in his power to come back. That narrative

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Speaker 2: may have been based in reality, I'm gonna guess it wasn't.

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Speaker 2: exhaustion it built. That was a thing last year. If

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Speaker 2: Here's what he had to say on Tuesday. You're a

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Speaker 2: That's part of the game. Can't control it.

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Speaker 2: talk show hosts. When it comes to exasperation over an

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Speaker 2: Like I understand here the peril in making this out

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Speaker 2: Twenty six From four This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moeggor.

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Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati opens up MLS regular season play on Saturday,

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Speaker 9: All the kindness is on your end though, for having

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Speaker 2: more goals, but that's been a stated objective this offseason.

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Speaker 2: Last night felt like they passed that initial test with

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Speaker 2: Flying Colors. But as the season begins to unfold in

435
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Speaker 2: MLS play, how do they do that? How do they

436
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Speaker 2: generate more offense?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, that's a loaded question.

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Speaker 9: It's not one player, right. You've got a vander who

439
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Speaker 9: can create and score on his own. You've got Dank

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Speaker 9: upfront who can do that as well. I actually look

441
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Speaker 9: a little bit deeper into the engine room. You need

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Speaker 9: help within the midfield. You know, Pavel Buca is going

443
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Speaker 9: to control things for you and he's going to be

444
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Speaker 9: the general within all of that. And well Gidi has

445
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,800
Speaker 9: to be his running mate. Wobodo needs to be healthy.

446
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Speaker 9: They didn't have that last year. So they struggled for

447
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Speaker 9: control in the midfield when you start to push to

448
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Speaker 9: the outside in the wing back positions. They struggled for

449
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Speaker 9: quality and they struggled with death, something that they've also

450
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Speaker 9: in the off season gone after. Ramirez is a key pickup,

451
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Speaker 9: the Ecuadorian from Lega Tiquito. So you are going to

452
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Speaker 9: need more chance creation from all over the field. As

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Speaker 9: great as a vender is as an MVP candidate every

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Speaker 9: single season and as great as Denk can be inside

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Speaker 9: the top of the eighteen. We are no longer in

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Speaker 9: a league where over the span of thirty four games

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Speaker 9: two players can get it done. The glimpses of brilliance

458
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Speaker 9: will be there, they will get you over the line

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Speaker 9: in crucial moments. But with the ambition that is FC Cincinnati,

460
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Speaker 9: a supporter Shield title every single season and the opportunity

461
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Speaker 9: to lift an MLS Cup, you need contributions all over

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Speaker 9: the field. That's why I'm looking at the midfield in

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Speaker 9: the width to be able to supplement the attack going forward.

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Speaker 2: I feel like as last season unfolded, we kept talking

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Speaker 2: about how wide open the East it was relative to

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Speaker 2: the previous year, and then we got to the playoffs

467
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Speaker 2: and it wasn't so wide open. An FC Cincinnati saw

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Speaker 2: firsthand how how good Miami was in the postseason. How

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Speaker 2: do you handicap the East this year?

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Speaker 8: I would still say that it is wide open, just

471
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Speaker 8: because there's so many things that we don't know right.

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Speaker 8: You know, there's there is going to be pressure at

473
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Speaker 8: inter Miami because it's inter Miami. Like the ambition that

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Speaker 8: they have is certainly that of f C Cincinnati. The

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Speaker 8: difference is is They're coming off an MLS Cup winning season.

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Speaker 8: The names they've added, you are going to have a

477
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Speaker 8: target on your back even more. It's kind of funny

478
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Speaker 8: how they've gone from this friendly fire just a few

479
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Speaker 8: seasons ago to the foe that everybody wants to slay

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Speaker 8: and they're the villain. Certainly, they're going to be one

481
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Speaker 8: of the favorites, but I still like what you're getting

482
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Speaker 8: in other teams in the East. You've got changeover at

483
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Speaker 8: those noisy neighbors down the street and the Columbus Crew.

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Speaker 8: With the departure of Wolford Nancy, you know, Toronto has

485
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Speaker 8: has made some moves as well. Charlotte has added more firepower. Certainly,

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Speaker 8: Miami is going to be the favorite in the East,

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Speaker 8: but it's really difficult to say, oh, these teams are

488
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Speaker 8: also going to be great. There's just too much talent

489
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Speaker 8: early on and we have no clue how it's going

490
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Speaker 8: to shape out in thirty four games. Don't let anybody

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Speaker 8: else tell you they think they know.

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Speaker 2: I got sixty six degrees today. I wish we were

493
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Speaker 2: going to have that on Saturday. Nonetheless, atmosphere should be awesome.

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Speaker 2: It's great to have FC Cincinnati back and hope you

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Speaker 2: guys have a great call. Thanks man.

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Speaker 8: Always a pleasure move.

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Speaker 2: That's the great Devin Kerr Apple TV MLS season pass.

498
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Speaker 2: He has the call with our friend Napukati on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: That game is going to start at four forty five.

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Speaker 2: Nate is going to join us tomorrow in studio. Great

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Speaker 2: to have Devin Kerr as always there headed to ot

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Speaker 2: and the gold medal tilt US and Canada women's hockey.

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Speaker 2: We'll keep you up to date with that. With goldhorns, goldhorns,

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Speaker 2: Tarna and I do have conversations. You know, we've been

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Speaker 2: playing golhorn horns whenever a goal has been scored in

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Speaker 2: these games involving the Americans. And then we'll have guests

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Speaker 2: who like Chad Brandle's gonna join us next. If we

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Speaker 2: have to interrupt our conversation with Chad because a goal

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Speaker 2: got scored, I think Chad's gonna understand. He kind of

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Speaker 2: he gets the bit. But you have a guy like

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Speaker 2: Devin Curry, you blow a goal horn while he's trying

512
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Speaker 2: to talk about soccer, it's like that that that's probably

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Speaker 2: not good for anybody. So thankfully they're in the break

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Speaker 2: between regulation and overtime. But soccer dames soccer matches, they

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Speaker 2: get horns and stuff too, but like they don't blow

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Speaker 2: a horn. I mean like somebody might you know, blow

517
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Speaker 2: a cannon or like they don't blow a horn in soccer.

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Speaker 2: Well that's true, but like every team has, but there's

519
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Speaker 2: not like a like in hockey when the when a

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Speaker 2: goal is scored, there's a siren, there's a horn, like

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Speaker 2: it's like it's it's a it's just expected. What do

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Speaker 2: they what in the bailey? They like shoot off, they

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00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,360
Speaker 2: bang a drum, they shoot off a cannon. Right, Yes,

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Speaker 2: it's a lot more noisy. Well, the good news is

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Speaker 2: we're never We're never on during FC Cincinnati games, but Taran,

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Speaker 2: we probably will be on this summer opposite the World Cup,

527
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Speaker 2: and so you're gonna have a lot of countries to

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Speaker 2: start working on. If we're gonna do this during the

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Speaker 2: World Cup, I'm up for the challenge. What about home games?

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Speaker 2: We can do that but typically, like I just like,

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Speaker 2: we'll start losing my mind, But yeah we can. We

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Speaker 2: can come up with a sound person. We have a

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Speaker 2: conference tournament in a couple of weeks, and so if

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Speaker 2: the Bearcats are playing while I'm on the air, You're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to come up with something besides me just

536
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Speaker 2: losing my mind. So yeah, you've you've got your work cutout.

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Speaker 2: They're headed to overtime in the UH Women's hockey gold

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Speaker 2: medal match in Italy. Meanwhile, Chad Brendle is getting set

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Speaker 2: to talk about the Bearcats who are getting set to

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Speaker 2: go to Kansas, and that conversation between Chad and I

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Speaker 2: is is happening next on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 2: This report that the Reds are going to play a

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Speaker 2: game against the Guardians on Saturday. Right now, Chad Brendel's

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Speaker 2: with us Bearcatjournal dot Com on Twitter at Chadrendel ho

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Speaker 2: to the BCJ podcast and he's with us. Now, Hi, Chad.

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Speaker 1: Him, Well, how's it going.

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Speaker 2: I'm doing great. Can you see beat Kansas on Saturday?

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. I mean, Kansas beat Arizona without

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Speaker 1: Darren Peterson. So even if you take Peterson out of

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Speaker 1: the mix, Kansas is losing at Fallallen field House is

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Speaker 1: not something Kansas does very often. I don't think Cincinnati,

563
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Speaker 1: this Cincinnati team is the team to do it.

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Speaker 8: And if Peterson plays.

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Speaker 1: He had twenty points in fourteen minutes in the first

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Speaker 1: half last night, Like he's the best player in America.

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Speaker 1: There's just some really weird stuff going on with him

568
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Speaker 1: that takes away from the realization that there's nobody scoring

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Speaker 1: the basketball in the country better than Darren Peterson.

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Speaker 8: He's awesome.

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Speaker 2: What do you make of the weirdness involving him?

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Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, if you're protecting your draft stock,

573
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Speaker 1: just don't play right, Like, just shut it down. You've

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Speaker 1: shown all you mean is needed to show. I don't

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Speaker 1: understand the facade of he did not cramp up last night, Like,

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Speaker 1: let's be honest about the video that's out there. When

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Speaker 1: he checked himself out of the gate, he had what

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Speaker 1: I think twenty two points at that point in time.

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Speaker 1: It was early in the second half. They were up

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Speaker 1: a ton on a bad team, and he was like,

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Speaker 1: all right, I'm good, let's just call a fate a

582
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Speaker 1: fate on that. I don't know what to make of it, man,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that we've ever seen anything like it

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Speaker 1: because there's no logic or like reason behind what he's doing.

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00:31:41,920 --> 00:31:45,480
Speaker 1: It's very random and awkward and weird.

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Speaker 10: It is.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, I'm all those things as well.

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Speaker 2: Can can the Bearcats beat Texas Tech without JT.

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Speaker 8: Toppin potentially?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because that's not a deep team. Like I'm very

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00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: concerned about Texas Tech going forward. They built that team

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Speaker 1: around JT. Topping and then Christian Anderson Popping is gone.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have anybody else down low that can

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Speaker 1: even remotely replace what he was doing. Maybe Christian Anderson

595
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Speaker 1: just goes for forty every night the rest of the way,

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Speaker 1: which he's good enough to do. But that's a winnable game.

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Speaker 8: Will they win it.

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Speaker 1: I had no idea, but that is a winnable game,

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Speaker 1: especially as they try to figure out what is our

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Speaker 1: identity without J. T. Toppins.

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Speaker 2: Two weeks ago tonight, you see lost to West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: Wes Miller bared his soul after the game and was

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Speaker 2: very emotional in the postgame interview with Dan and Terry,

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Speaker 2: and I think that night a lot of folks started

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Speaker 2: to believe that that's it right, that the walls have

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Speaker 2: closed in, and you know, Wes is reading the handwriting,

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Speaker 2: reading the writing on the wall. And this is a

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Speaker 2: coach who's who has seen his chances of saving his

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Speaker 2: job go out the window. They have not lost a

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Speaker 2: game since two weeks ago tonight. If I would have

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Speaker 2: said to you the what percentage of a chance does

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Speaker 2: Wes Miller have coming back? What would your answer have been?

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Speaker 2: And if I ask you that now, what's your answer?

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Speaker 1: It would have been probably ninety seven percent gone three percent?

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Speaker 1: Stay because there didn't appear to be a path to

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Speaker 1: nine and nine or ten and eight or excuse me,

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Speaker 1: whatever that magic number is in conference to provide the

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Speaker 1: belief that this thing is back to moving in a

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Speaker 1: positive direction. Now you've won three in a row, and

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Speaker 1: granted those three teams were not good, and they were

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Speaker 1: really bad against you, John like, they managed to win,

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Speaker 1: but that was a game that was very difficult to watch,

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Speaker 1: especially as I was watching my daughter's volleyball team play

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Speaker 1: their fifth game in two days and probably their worst

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Speaker 1: game in five over those two days. I was in

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Speaker 1: a very agitated state.

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Speaker 8: Watching that game.

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Speaker 1: Fortunately the Bearcats came back to win, But I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's what it looks like when they're not making three

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Speaker 1: pointers at a seventy percent clip like we saw against

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Speaker 1: UCF and against Kansas State. So there's a pass. Now,

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00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: there's a pass back to if you remember a couple

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Speaker 1: months ago, I said, I need to see what it

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Speaker 1: looks like if they missed the tournament, as West Miller

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Speaker 1: for sure gone. I need to see what it looks

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Speaker 1: like now there is a chance they could be a

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Speaker 1: nine or ten win Big twelve teams still not make

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Speaker 1: the tournament, but put the athletic department in at the

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Speaker 1: position where they have to make a much tougher decision

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Speaker 1: than if the team had, you know, tanked and looked

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Speaker 1: really bad down the stretch. So I don't know, probably

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Speaker 1: still low fifteen twenty percent. But at least there's a

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Speaker 1: path that you have to talk about now that they

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Speaker 1: could attaint.

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Speaker 2: Let's say they go down that path and find a

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Speaker 2: way to win three of their last five and finish

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Speaker 2: five hundred in the big twelve. And you talk about

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Speaker 2: like the decision that the factors influencing the decision, what

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Speaker 2: are they?

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Speaker 1: I know still, and I know fans have a hard

651
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Speaker 1: time understanding this or grasping this, but I know there's

652
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Speaker 1: still a lot of people with a lot of influence

653
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Speaker 1: and a lot of money that really like West Miller,

654
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Speaker 1: And that would probably be the main thing, is those

655
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Speaker 1: people seeing a path to we can get you know,

656
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Speaker 1: we need another year and we can get this thing

657
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Speaker 1: where we want it to be.

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Speaker 5: Do I.

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Speaker 1: You know, I think that's a very tough It's going

660
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: to be a very difficult vision to sell to your

661
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:11,320
Speaker 1: fan base, but I think that exists. And look, keeping

662
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: coaches with large buyouts is a lot easier than firing

663
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Speaker 1: coaches and paying buyouts. So there's the monetary factor. And

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Speaker 1: really that's what a lot of this comes down to,

665
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Speaker 1: far more often than not, is monetary decisions. If they're

666
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Speaker 1: at nine to nine, do I think they probably still

667
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Speaker 1: make a move. Yeah, probably, but I'm far less certain

668
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Speaker 1: if this is a five hundred big twelve team that

669
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Speaker 1: a move is eminent.

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Speaker 2: What's the dumbest question you ever asked mc cronan.

671
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Speaker 1: So, I don't think the question was dumb, but I

672
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Speaker 1: think I was very early in my career and I

673
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Speaker 1: phrased it in a way that, looking back, was just

674
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Speaker 1: chumming the water for Mick cronin. I was asking him

675
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: probably something related to the offense and it not being

676
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Speaker 1: as good as people would like it to be.

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Speaker 2: Oh wait a minute, hang on, Chad Man, We've We've

678
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:15,800
Speaker 2: got a goal. Hang on, Chad. My apologies to the

679
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 2: country's business Beckins.

680
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:22,799
Speaker 10: We have won the gold medal in women's hockey two

681
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Speaker 10: to one over Canada. That's right, sudden death over time

682
00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 10: three on three hockey.

683
00:37:28,800 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 2: The US women have won the goal trickles in it

684
00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 2: looked like it went right through the Canadian goaltenders wickets,

685
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 2: and the United States has won the women's hockey goal.

686
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 2: The Canadian players are despondent. America wins again. Chad. Now

687
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,760
Speaker 2: we have to refocus, go ahead and answer the question,

688
00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,000
Speaker 2: what is the dumbest question you ever asked mc cronin,

689
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: so I.

690
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:53,680
Speaker 1: Started the question with Mick. There are fans that think,

691
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,000
Speaker 1: and Mick immediately I don't even think I got the

692
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Speaker 1: question out. Do you think I care what fans think

693
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Speaker 1: I'm doing basketball game?

694
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Speaker 4: I don't care.

695
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: Why would I care what a fan thinks about the

696
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,799
Speaker 1: job of winning basketball games? So, you know, it's good

697
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Speaker 1: to know that I'm no longer in the running. I

698
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 1: don't know if I asked him the stupidest question he's

699
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Speaker 1: ever been asked, but I know I was in the running,

700
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Speaker 1: and it's good to know that I'm no longer in

701
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Speaker 1: the running for dumbest question Mick cron has ever been asked.

702
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Speaker 4: And that was a relief.

703
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I can understand. I'd be interested in hearing

704
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Speaker 2: what like his top ten worst questions are the UC

705
00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,720
Speaker 2: baseball team the other night beat Auburn, and there's growing

706
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:35,760
Speaker 2: interest in Jordan Bishall's team, as you might understand, because

707
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: you know they made the tournament last year. They played

708
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 2: a fun and entertaining brand of baseball. It feels like

709
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Speaker 2: they have a chance to be pretty good this year.

710
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Speaker 2: I put this on social media. Once upon a time,

711
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Speaker 2: many many many many many years ago, we did a station,

712
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:52,920
Speaker 2: very impromptu station outing to a UC baseball game. I

713
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 2: think we called her a tweet up, I'm not sure.

714
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 2: And it was well attended, and I've been asked like,

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Speaker 2: would you do something similar this year? Would you want

716
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Speaker 2: to be a part of that? Could you be a

717
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 2: part of it? Would you just go ahead and organize it?

718
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Speaker 2: If the answer is yes, yes, I would love to

719
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Speaker 2: be a part of it.

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Speaker 1: We would have to, you know, make sure we pick

721
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Speaker 1: a date that aligns with my commitment to the Apex

722
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Speaker 1: fifteen black volleyball team. But other than that, I think

723
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Speaker 1: we could find, you know, a game to go. Maybe

724
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Speaker 1: find a local establishment close to the stadium. Maybe have

725
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Speaker 1: a couple of pops before the game, go to the game,

726
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Speaker 1: do a little bcj ESPN fifteen thirty, you know deal

727
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Speaker 1: And I think it would be an awesome time because

728
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Speaker 1: they are incredibly fun to watch. I absolutely love talking

729
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 1: to Jordan Bischell. I love his philosophy on coaching and

730
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,960
Speaker 1: how his teams respond to him. And I've got some

731
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Speaker 1: big news, mo. We are star next Thursday night at

732
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Speaker 1: I think eight pm, maybe eight thirty. We're still ironing

733
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Speaker 1: that out. We're gonna have our own new Live You

734
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Speaker 1: See Baseball Show on Thursday nights.

735
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Speaker 5: YouTube channel.

736
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Speaker 2: All right, very good, Well that's terrific. All right, so

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Speaker 2: you're in, You're on board.

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Speaker 8: I'm on board.

739
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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm I haven't totally committed to this because I've

740
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,919
Speaker 2: I've sometimes we do these and you hear from folks

741
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,520
Speaker 2: who are like, oh, yeah, I would do that, and

742
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,799
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, where are you? So I haven't completely

743
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:41,680
Speaker 2: committed to doing this, but I'm I've been inched in

744
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 2: the right direction, and even more so because we have

745
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,840
Speaker 2: your support and participation. So I'm I'm here for it.

746
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:50,759
Speaker 2: Let's figure out our collaboration.

747
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 1: I think a collaboration. We could get a pretty good

748
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Speaker 1: group of people together to watch the bear Cats play.

749
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Speaker 2: I'm all about collaboration. I'm alla beck collaboration. All right, ched, Well,

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Speaker 2: well it's it is very much on my radar. Thank

751
00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 2: you as always, No, you have a wonderful show. We'll

752
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 2: do our best. Chad Brendle Bearcat Journal dot Com on

753
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:19,800
Speaker 2: Twitter at Chad Brendle. The United States wins the women's

754
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,040
Speaker 2: hockey goal two to one in overtime. Perhaps the men

755
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 2: can follow suit. They've got to beat Slovakia in the

756
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,280
Speaker 2: semi final tomorrow. It's coming up on four o'clock on Moegor.

757
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,919
Speaker 2: This is ESPN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

758
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Speaker 6: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: That's US. Yes, I don't know why I've gotten as

760
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Speaker 2: into Olympic hockey as I had, and frankly, it's typically

761
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Speaker 2: the men's side. I gotta know women's Olympic hockey more

762
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Speaker 2: so this year than ever before. And the United States

763
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Speaker 2: just well, that was a game to watch. I missed

764
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,919
Speaker 2: most of the first period we were on the air.

765
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Speaker 2: They scored the equalizer, the tying goal with just over

766
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Speaker 2: two minutes to go in in regulation, then they win

767
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Speaker 2: the game in overtime. That it was a really fun

768
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Speaker 2: sporting event. It all along has felt like it was

769
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Speaker 2: going to be a collision course between the United States

770
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Speaker 2: and Canada. I don't follow women's hockey all that closely,

771
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Speaker 2: so my apologies if I'm not going to do a

772
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Speaker 2: deep dive into you know, the the the x's and o's,

773
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Speaker 2: so to speak, or the the ins and outs of

774
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Speaker 2: the game itself. But it was it was as a

775
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: fun sporting event, and it's always fun when the United

776
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Speaker 2: States wins they win two to one, winning the gold

777
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Speaker 2: and standing by to watch the gold medal ceremony. That

778
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 2: was a cool sporting event. That men play Slovakiat tomorrow

779
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,560
Speaker 2: in one semi final Canada and Finland, and the other

780
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Speaker 2: was just talking with Chad Brandle about a couple of

781
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: different topics. Wes Miller was one of them, and look

782
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: man like, I feel like the entirety of the season

783
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:14,800
Speaker 2: was always gonna be considered when considering what to do

784
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: with him, you know, And if you're gonna be fair,

785
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: you have to consider the entire season. So it's a

786
00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 2: an NCAA tournament or bust season. The Bearcats are probably

787
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 2: not gonna make the NCAA tournaments. As fun as it

788
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 2: is to talk about what it would be like if

789
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Speaker 2: they won the next two twelve losses, man, I got

790
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 2: a Q four loss, like, you know, it's it's fun

791
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:38,080
Speaker 2: to dream about, it's fun to talk about. Like, you

792
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: gotta beat some good teams. They play a bunch of

793
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 2: them here soon, starting on on Saturday. But you know,

794
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 2: talking with folks like Chad and others who cover this stuff,

795
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 2: who are around the program have often made it not

796
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 2: quite as black and white. We do a preseason preview

797
00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 2: every year right before college basketball starts, and Chad joins

798
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 2: us in studio. Rick Broing joins us in studio and

799
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,000
Speaker 2: we talk about you see and Xavier and a lot

800
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,760
Speaker 2: of other college basketball topics and other programs and stuff.

801
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Speaker 2: But with Chad, it was, you know, okay, make or

802
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Speaker 2: break here, NCAA tournament or Boston. Chad's go to from

803
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,440
Speaker 2: the get go has been got to see how it

804
00:44:18,480 --> 00:44:21,480
Speaker 2: looks got to see what it looks like. And so

805
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,360
Speaker 2: we're gonna take the entire season into account. I believe

806
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Speaker 2: Wes if he has brought back to be the coach

807
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: next year, that's gonna be a tough sell for a

808
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:32,359
Speaker 2: lot of people. But I also do think it's fair

809
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 2: to say, like we're gonna judge you how you do

810
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Speaker 2: on this season, to at least consider how the team

811
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,959
Speaker 2: has played down the stretch. How the team has played

812
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: down the stretch is probably not gonna make anybody feel

813
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,920
Speaker 2: any better about the decision to bring him back, if

814
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 2: that's what they do. But there's there's something about this

815
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: that matters.

816
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Speaker 1: And I.

817
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Speaker 2: Hate to say it because I'm a sports fan, and

818
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:58,319
Speaker 2: you hate to be told that your opinion doesn't matter,

819
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: But in college athletic rank and file sports fans, like

820
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: most of us, our opinions really don't matter. I mean,

821
00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 2: that's like it or not how this sport works. If

822
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,320
Speaker 2: the big money people like you, you've got more of

823
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 2: a shot than if the big money people want you gone.

824
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 2: That goes for a coach who's struggling, it goes for

825
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Speaker 2: a coach who's winning. And so like, I brought these

826
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Speaker 2: things up the Chad because I listened to his podcast

827
00:45:28,520 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 2: last night. Chad and David Simone talk about Mick Cronin

828
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Speaker 2: talk about some football stuff, but I listened to the

829
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Speaker 2: conversation about Wes Miller, and I could tell this was

830
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,439
Speaker 2: going over like a lead balloon. When they were talking

831
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Speaker 2: about it. They'd do a show where you know, you

832
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 2: could see the YouTube comments and stuff like that, and

833
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:45,879
Speaker 2: I could tell as they were talking they were hearing

834
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,160
Speaker 2: from people who were pissed that Chad was even bringing

835
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Speaker 2: up the possibility that Wes comes back. And by the way,

836
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:54,600
Speaker 2: like I think the coolest thing on earth would be

837
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Speaker 2: this team plays out of its mind somehow finds its

838
00:45:57,840 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: way in Wes is the coach moving far and it

839
00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 2: works moving forward like that scenario does not feel likely,

840
00:46:05,080 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 2: but it would be cool. But like, this matters, and

841
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 2: this is important and it's worth considering, and it's gonna

842
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:14,359
Speaker 2: make people mad, and you can apply this to every

843
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:18,600
Speaker 2: program in the country. There could be a lot of

844
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 2: noise about a coach's future, and you could have fans,

845
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 2: you can even have season ticket holders who are like,

846
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,920
Speaker 2: I want this coach gone. And this could be about

847
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: other sports beyond men's basketball, I want the coach gone.

848
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,400
Speaker 2: And you can call talk shows and you could tweet

849
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,280
Speaker 2: your favorite podcaster, and you could lose your mind online

850
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 2: and you can decide to not go to games. The

851
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:40,800
Speaker 2: reality is there's only a handful of people beyond the

852
00:46:40,920 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: director of athletics, and in many cases even more important

853
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:49,759
Speaker 2: than the director of athletics, whose opinion really counts. And

854
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 2: so like, those are the people right in the checks,

855
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 2: Like you might not like that, and hearing that may

856
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 2: make you feel powerless as a fan, and as a

857
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,359
Speaker 2: rank and file fan of every team that I care about, Like, yeah,

858
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: you want to feel like you've got as much influence

859
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 2: as anybody. But in college athletics, some people who have

860
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 2: a rooting interest, their opinion matters more. Just it's how

861
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: it is so like, all right, you know what's John

862
00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: Cunningham gonna do, what's UC gonna do? How hard of

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Speaker 2: a cell will Wes b Can they bring him back?

864
00:47:23,360 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 2: Should they bring him back? All fair topics, but like

865
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 2: if if you got the big money people on your side,

866
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:32,759
Speaker 2: this kind of applies to life. Be honestly, in life,

867
00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 2: if you have big money people on your side, you

868
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 2: can go a lot further than someone who doesn't. I

869
00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 2: hate to say that, but it's like, tell me I'm wrong.

870
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: If you got the big money people on your side

871
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: in life, you got a damn good chance. If you don't,

872
00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:52,920
Speaker 2: you don't have as good of a chance. That applies

873
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: to basketball coaches, it applies to radio hosts, applies to

874
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 2: a lot of people. Got the coin on your side,

875
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:02,359
Speaker 2: you're good, don't got a problem. So if Wes has

876
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,399
Speaker 2: the coin on his side, he's got a better chance

877
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: of surviving that I think a lot of people might

878
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 2: have believed, certainly two weeks ago and maybe even today.

879
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: And so look, man, whatever criticisms of Wes have been

880
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: out there, we've discussed, we've been on board with. I

881
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:21,399
Speaker 2: do think there's something to the fact that his team

882
00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 2: hasn't totally disintegrated, because two weeks ago it felt like

883
00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: that was on the verge of happening. We will see

884
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 2: he and they can make a larger case for him

885
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 2: and that team in that program by winning on Saturday.

886
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 2: We'll see see if Darren Peterson plays thirteen after four o'clock.

887
00:48:41,080 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: And by the way, that situation with him coming out

888
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 2: of the game last night, not playing against Arizona, not

889
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:52,480
Speaker 2: playing against Kansas's most difficult opponents. I talked about this

890
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 2: with Hunter Green earlier, like, if an athlete says they're hurt,

891
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:01,319
Speaker 2: I believe them, but I think we should believe them.

892
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:03,879
Speaker 2: I think we should defer to the athlete. Athlete knows

893
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,759
Speaker 2: his or her body. I'm sure there are athletes who

894
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:10,279
Speaker 2: have milked injuries, who have faked injuries, who haven't done

895
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: everything they can to get back on the field or

896
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:15,360
Speaker 2: the court or the rank or whatever it is. But

897
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 2: as a general rule, I believe we should trust the

898
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 2: athlete and trust that they know their body better than

899
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:27,160
Speaker 2: anybody else. That said, the Darren Peterson thing is just strange,

900
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 2: and you know, you watch Bill's self talk about this,

901
00:49:32,520 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 2: and you see how it's being talked about among people

902
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 2: who cover the sport. Like he is a terrific player

903
00:49:39,160 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 2: and he's still maybe the number one overall pick in

904
00:49:41,480 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 2: the draft, but as he gets evaluated by evaluators at

905
00:49:47,600 --> 00:49:50,840
Speaker 2: the next level, like it does feel like there's a

906
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:56,200
Speaker 2: baseline level of competitiveness that he's just not meeting. End

907
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: that should matter, man, like that that that should matter.

908
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:05,400
Speaker 2: Like I remember when the Bengals drafted Cedric obwayhe he

909
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 2: had all sorts of issues, but there were rumblings like

910
00:50:07,880 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 2: this dude likes football. There's just not that level of

911
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 2: competitiveness that a team is looking for. The Bengals still

912
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: took him. You know, there's there's a guy here who

913
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:22,200
Speaker 2: just it feels like that game against Arizona the Kansas

914
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:26,000
Speaker 2: played in, like how do you not want to play

915
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: in that game? And he begged out of it with

916
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 2: the flu and after going through warm ups and like,

917
00:50:33,120 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 2: all right, fine, maybe he's like really sick, and okay,

918
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:38,759
Speaker 2: maybe he just simply can't give it a go. But

919
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:40,880
Speaker 2: how do you know, how are you not just dying

920
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 2: to play in that game? How are you not just

921
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 2: like you've decided to be a part of that program.

922
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:47,879
Speaker 2: It's one thing if you're like, you know, what. I'm

923
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 2: just not going to college and I'm going to go

924
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,239
Speaker 2: to the NBA one i'm eligible. It's fine, But if

925
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,840
Speaker 2: you're going to be a part of a program like that,

926
00:50:55,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: don't you go to Kansas to play fog Allen Fieldhouse

927
00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 2: in high end, high leverage, Big twelve games. That story,

928
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 2: to me is beyond fascinating. And double see if he

929
00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 2: plays on Saturday against the Bearcats. One other thing, and

930
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: I know I'm a little bit late here. We played

931
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 2: the audio of Mick Cronin yesterday, Taren, can you go

932
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: ahead and queue that up?

933
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:20,120
Speaker 11: So this.

934
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 2: Some have taken this to two extremes. He's being written

935
00:51:25,640 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: about in the La Times. As you know, maybe it's

936
00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 2: time to move on for Mick and the team is

937
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 2: having an underwhelming season, and that's maybe putting it gently.

938
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,640
Speaker 2: My former partner Greg Doyle has written about how mean

939
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: Mick Cronin is. I don't know that we need to

940
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,759
Speaker 2: go there, but whatever, to each their own. But this

941
00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:43,600
Speaker 2: performance after the game on Michigan State has gotten a

942
00:51:43,640 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 2: lot of attention, and understandably so because it was pretty unbecoming. Taran,

943
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: go ahead and play the audio.

944
00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,560
Speaker 5: What was your thoughts? In the student section? Channing Booker's name.

945
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,919
Speaker 2: I could give a rat's ash about the other team

946
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:54,680
Speaker 2: students section.

947
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 5: I've overall the way.

948
00:51:57,320 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 2: I would like to give you a kudos for your

949
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 2: worst question.

950
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 4: I've ever even asked, all Right, did.

951
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:07,080
Speaker 2: You like there should take it?

952
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,920
Speaker 5: Do you really think I care about the other I

953
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 5: care about the other question?

954
00:52:13,680 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: You are here, you are, come on, dude, the issue

955
00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 2: were everybody's standing here listening to you. Everybody this is

956
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: on camera, they can hear you. I answered the question.

957
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 2: I could give a rat's ask about the other team

958
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 2: student section. I coach UCLA.

959
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 5: I don't care about Michigan.

960
00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:33,400
Speaker 2: State students know we we played it yesterday. Mick is

961
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:36,400
Speaker 2: is taking a beating. And look, he put that in

962
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: the public forum. He put that in the public space.

963
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,000
Speaker 2: When you do that, you get whatever's coming your way.

964
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 2: Mick's been criticized. I thought it was a bad look.

965
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 2: I think Mikes a really fun interview subject that was

966
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: none of that. I think an apology would be cool.

967
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 2: I don't know if we should hold our breath before

968
00:52:55,280 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: before he issues one. It is interesting, though, this has

969
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 2: been a year where college basketball coaches and college football

970
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:10,160
Speaker 2: coaches as well have continued to just seem unendingly exasperated.

971
00:53:11,840 --> 00:53:14,560
Speaker 2: We've talked more about Wes Miller's post game shows than

972
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,640
Speaker 2: we have his team at times this year. College basketball

973
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 2: coaches are really interesting right now because I'm not sure

974
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 2: there's a group of people anywhere in sports are otherwise

975
00:53:29,400 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: who have seen their control eroad like college basketball coaches.

976
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:38,879
Speaker 2: I mean, think about all the things that historically they've

977
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 2: been able to control, their roster, their players, recruiting. Now

978
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:48,320
Speaker 2: they're at the mercy of nil, they're at the mercy

979
00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:51,320
Speaker 2: of revenue sharing, They're at the mercy of their players.

980
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 2: They're at the mercy of people who can pay the players.

981
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:56,840
Speaker 2: They're at the mercy of people who can fund their programs.

982
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:58,560
Speaker 2: This is not just a make cronin thing. You could

983
00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 2: say this about the industry collectively, and like, I don't

984
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 2: say this disparagingly, but college basketball coaches have historically had

985
00:54:06,080 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 2: a lot of control, some much more than others. Some

986
00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:13,840
Speaker 2: have had control over entire academic institutions. Used to be

987
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:15,879
Speaker 2: a guy in Bloomington, they would say that about now,

988
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 2: like this profession, which when you've gotten to the top

989
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 2: of it, has typically given you a ton of control.

990
00:54:23,360 --> 00:54:25,960
Speaker 2: You can control Historically whether or not a player was

991
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 2: going to be clear to transfer. You could block a

992
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: player from going to a certain school. You can control

993
00:54:31,239 --> 00:54:33,839
Speaker 2: playing time, and the player had to pretty much suck

994
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,080
Speaker 2: it up and if they didn't like it, well they

995
00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 2: could transfer, but they were gonna have to sit out

996
00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: a year and you can have some control over that.

997
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,520
Speaker 2: And now you don't really control anything. And I think

998
00:54:43,520 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: what's happening, And maybe this is not so much Mick,

999
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 2: but like many have said, like he has seemed agitated

1000
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 2: all year, and there's a lot about this current climate

1001
00:54:50,920 --> 00:54:54,279
Speaker 2: that a lot of coaches don't love, and understandably so.

1002
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,439
Speaker 2: But I don't know, and I make this a little

1003
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 2: bit more about college basketball coaches than football coaches, But

1004
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,960
Speaker 2: I don't know that there's a group of people who

1005
00:55:03,080 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 2: have seen more control slip away than college basketball coaches.

1006
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: And I just feel like the collective frustration that we

1007
00:55:14,480 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 2: have heard so many of them express is a reflection

1008
00:55:19,000 --> 00:55:21,920
Speaker 2: of that twenty minutes after four o'clock. By the way,

1009
00:55:22,040 --> 00:55:25,080
Speaker 2: I did not mention the players who scored the goals

1010
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: for the US, So Hillary Knight is the player who

1011
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:31,200
Speaker 2: tied the game with just over two minutes to go

1012
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 2: in the third period and Megan Keller is the player

1013
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: who scored the game winning goal, gold medal winning goal

1014
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:41,800
Speaker 2: in overtime for the US. They're doing the metal ceremony

1015
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: right now, twenty after four o'clock. The Trey Hendrickson thing.

1016
00:55:48,000 --> 00:55:50,319
Speaker 2: At some point we're going to be done talking about him,

1017
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,080
Speaker 2: but we're not now because there's a way we have

1018
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,640
Speaker 2: to look at this that I think is important. We'll

1019
00:55:55,719 --> 00:55:59,080
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Speaker 2: By the way, we were talking about this on Quick Hits.

1041
00:57:11,560 --> 00:57:17,280
Speaker 2: So Fangraphs doesn't have an overly optimistic view of the

1042
00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 2: Reds this season. Projection has them winning seventy eight games

1043
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 2: in their simulations. They've got the Reds making the postseason

1044
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:31,920
Speaker 2: basically one a fifth of the time, twenty percent of

1045
00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 2: the time. Like there's there is a a consensus with

1046
00:57:37,800 --> 00:57:43,720
Speaker 2: the Reds that has them winning somewhere in the neighborhood

1047
00:57:43,720 --> 00:57:46,520
Speaker 2: of the number of games they did last year, maybe

1048
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: a little bit less, maybe a little bit more. By

1049
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 2: the way, the the specific it's Fangraphs, and there's Baseball

1050
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 2: Perspectives and PA CODA and ZIPS, a lot of different

1051
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: projection models. Fangrass projects the Reds to win seventy eight

1052
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 2: point eight games. They've got the Cubs winning the division,

1053
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:06,160
Speaker 2: projecting with eighty six wins, which I think is I

1054
00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:09,240
Speaker 2: think illustrates the fact that like Milwaukee won it with

1055
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 2: ninety seven last year. I'd be stunned. I think we

1056
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: all would be stunned if the NL Central winner finished

1057
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 2: with ninety seven victories. Pittsburgh eighty three, Milwaukee eighty two

1058
00:58:20,320 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 2: point one, Cincinnati seventy eight point eight, Saint Louis seventy

1059
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 2: four point nine, making the postseason twenty point three percent

1060
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 2: of the time, winning the division eight point nine percent

1061
00:58:34,280 --> 00:58:38,960
Speaker 2: of the time, uh winning the World Series by the

1062
00:58:39,000 --> 00:58:43,200
Speaker 2: way point six percent of the time. The Rets are

1063
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:48,000
Speaker 2: gonna have to defy people like, you know, the baseline

1064
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:51,320
Speaker 2: level of expectation here has been, Hey, they won eighty

1065
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 2: three games and made the postseason. They bring back the

1066
00:58:54,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: strength of their team, which is the starting pitching, and

1067
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:59,920
Speaker 2: they've added to it with one bat basically in Auhaneo Suarez,

1068
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: and so that's gonna lend itself to more success. They're

1069
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 2: gonna have to They're gonna have to fly in the

1070
00:59:07,200 --> 00:59:11,160
Speaker 2: face of the consensus. And you know, we discussed this

1071
00:59:11,200 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: a little bit yesterday because of our guest we had

1072
00:59:13,000 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 2: on Tuesday, Derek Cardi from ESPN, the betting Guy. Like,

1073
00:59:16,560 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: there's being a fan and we're most of us within

1074
00:59:20,560 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 2: the sound of my voice, we're all Reds fans and

1075
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:27,360
Speaker 2: emotionally we want this team to win the division, get

1076
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Speaker 2: to the postseason, advance in the postseason. But like, would

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00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,880
Speaker 2: you feel comfortable betting on the Reds to win the

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00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:38,480
Speaker 2: National League Central If with an amount of money that

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00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:42,560
Speaker 2: really matters to you, you might do it because it's

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00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 2: just something you do every year. You might do it

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00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:47,439
Speaker 2: just because it's you're thinking of the payoff and there's

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00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:50,960
Speaker 2: really good value there, which I think there is, Like

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00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,560
Speaker 2: there's still they're still going to have to exceed what

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00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:59,439
Speaker 2: they were last year, and what they were last year

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01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 2: exceeds what people expect from them often this season. There

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Speaker 2: are a lot of things, man, and in every sport,

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01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:09,520
Speaker 2: with every good team, a lot of really good things

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01:00:09,560 --> 01:00:12,240
Speaker 2: have happened. That will be the case this year if

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01:00:12,320 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: the Reds end up being really really good. But like

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01:00:16,280 --> 01:00:19,200
Speaker 2: there's we were talking about this on Quick Hits, like

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01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 2: what do you make of these projections? Like huh, huh,

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01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:26,600
Speaker 2: the team is largely unchanged from last year. It is now,

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01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 2: are you Haneio Soarez? That's that's that's not an insignificant

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01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:33,560
Speaker 2: change at all. But like, is he gonna hit forty

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01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,919
Speaker 2: nine a gabp No. I think we're thinking thirty five

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01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:41,120
Speaker 2: and thirty five will be will be terrific. But you know,

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Speaker 2: beyond that, there's there's not a lot of like high

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Speaker 2: end proven entities, and so they're gonna have to defy

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Speaker 2: the consensus seventy eight point eight. The over under most

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01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:59,840
Speaker 2: sports books is eighty two point five. Like, I don't

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Speaker 2: know how you look at them right now and maybe

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Speaker 2: this changes by mid April. I don't know how you

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01:01:04,320 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: look at them right now and go, yeah, man, dramatically

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01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:11,480
Speaker 2: better than they were last dramatically better. But I do

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01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:19,760
Speaker 2: think the ceiling for this team is relatively low, But

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01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: the ceiling for the National League Central is also relatively low.

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01:01:23,400 --> 01:01:27,560
Speaker 2: When I say ceiling is low, like I have a

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01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,880
Speaker 2: hard time believing they can win ninety games, but I

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01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 2: think it's fair to wonder if it's going to take

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01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,439
Speaker 2: ninety wins to win the n L Central. We will see.

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Speaker 2: By the way I'm watching the Metal ceremony, after the

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01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 2: women's hockey gold medal match and Canada has just gotten

1113
01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 2: their silver medals. The look on the players faces as

1114
01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 2: they're given those silver medals is frankly hilarious and I

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01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:59,480
Speaker 2: have no ill will toward Canada. None of those players

1116
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 2: want to be and that is usually the case when

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01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,120
Speaker 2: you just lost a heartbreaking game like the one they

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01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 2: lost to the United States. Twenty nine away from four

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Speaker 2: o'clock five one, three, seven, four nine, fifteen thirty, we'll

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Speaker 2: grab some phone calls and uh a few thoughts on

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Speaker 2: a decision the Bengals have probably already made. Next on

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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

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Speaker 13: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Moegar. Thanks for listening today,

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Speaker 13: Thank you for listening every day. Shannon Miners on home

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01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 13: the NKU Hall of Famer. His team wins last night

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01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:16,960
Speaker 13: beat Purdue for Wayne.

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Speaker 2: This is the time of year where Shannon starts to

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01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:21,880
Speaker 2: call us to talk about his beloved I assume that's

1140
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 2: what he wants to talk about. Hi, Shannon, I know him.

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01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,880
Speaker 2: I'm well, that's been a while. What's going on?

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01:03:31,880 --> 01:03:32,840
Speaker 11: How you been you had?

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01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:35,480
Speaker 8: You had some great seats last night at the game.

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01:03:36,480 --> 01:03:39,800
Speaker 2: I did. I did, scored some some really good seeds.

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01:03:39,840 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 2: Friend of mine gave him to me. It was great, Saul,

1146
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,320
Speaker 2: saw your alma mater play really really well.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm excited. I mean, as you know, it's getting

1148
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 4: that time of year, these last few games, and hopefully

1149
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,880
Speaker 4: they can make a run here, get get a five seed.

1150
01:03:55,960 --> 01:03:58,160
Speaker 4: They need that five seed in order to host the

1151
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,520
Speaker 4: game in the Horizon. They got there is about to

1152
01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:00,760
Speaker 4: do it.

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01:04:01,840 --> 01:04:04,560
Speaker 2: Can you explain to me the Horizon League format?

1154
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 4: Like I'm in the third grade, So there are eleven

1155
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,680
Speaker 4: teams ten to eleven play each other, and then after

1156
01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 4: that ten plays one to nine plays two and so on,

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01:04:15,560 --> 01:04:17,200
Speaker 4: and then if you're the higher seed, you get the

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01:04:17,280 --> 01:04:20,720
Speaker 4: host and after that you go to Indianapolis and they

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Speaker 4: have the rest of the tournament there and then it'll

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Speaker 4: be on ESPN, ESP and two the final four and

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Speaker 4: then the championship game, the Simion and finals.

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Speaker 2: What has to happen for the North to win that event?

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01:04:34,200 --> 01:04:36,240
Speaker 4: I mean, I was thinking they're gonna have to play

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Speaker 4: a lot better than the other teams.

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Speaker 8: But here's the thing with the Horizon, the parody is

1166
01:04:41,240 --> 01:04:41,720
Speaker 8: so good.

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01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 4: I just think that like there their top the top

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01:04:46,000 --> 01:04:48,440
Speaker 4: teams in that league they've competed with, and the you know,

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01:04:48,600 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 4: right state for that team in the league called by Oakland.

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01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:54,960
Speaker 4: Right now, Detroit Mercy's ahead of them. But Detroit Mercy

1171
01:04:55,000 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 4: has to play three of the top four teams in

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01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:58,760
Speaker 4: the last four games, where ANKU.

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,440
Speaker 8: Has to play from the bottom the teams.

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01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,080
Speaker 4: And so if they can go on the road and

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01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 4: win against Johnstown State and Cleveland State, hopefully they can't

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Speaker 4: get that five seed.

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Speaker 8: But they're you know, they're playing better.

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Speaker 11: Now.

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01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 4: They've got two guys that we were injured back back

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01:05:11,120 --> 01:05:13,640
Speaker 4: playing Cal Robinson who was from New Zealand, who came

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01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,680
Speaker 4: from Montana State. And then also we talked last night

1182
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:20,640
Speaker 4: about Eaton Elliott from Australia. He's the point guard that

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01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,880
Speaker 4: kind of does everything for them and is the catalyst

1184
01:05:23,960 --> 01:05:27,360
Speaker 4: for that team. Hopefully both those guys stay injured free

1185
01:05:27,480 --> 01:05:30,360
Speaker 4: so they can be healthy here these last three games

1186
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 4: and into the Horizon Ring Tournament.

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01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:36,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, this team defensively, are they good enough?

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01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:41,080
Speaker 4: You know, I think the long enough, My question would

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01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:43,120
Speaker 4: be their death. You know, hopefully they have I think

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Speaker 4: they have the best you know up there at the

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Speaker 4: top six guys. As long as those six guys play.

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Speaker 4: I know we had talked about Donovan oday h the

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01:05:53,400 --> 01:05:55,560
Speaker 4: transfer from I think Cal State four ten.

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01:05:57,280 --> 01:05:59,120
Speaker 8: You know, he was coming off the bench was because

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01:05:59,160 --> 01:05:59,600
Speaker 8: of injuries.

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Speaker 4: He's there in there and maybe he might be better

1197
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 4: coming off the bench and letting Cal Robinson start. You know,

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01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:08,560
Speaker 4: last night out of the n O day struggled a

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Speaker 4: little bit from three point range, only making one out

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01:06:10,760 --> 01:06:11,160
Speaker 4: of six.

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01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,560
Speaker 8: But you know, the key, like I always tell you,

1202
01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 8: is Ethan Elliott, the point guard.

1203
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 4: You know, he had he had four assists last night

1204
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,040
Speaker 4: only one turns and I think he's three three to

1205
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:21,240
Speaker 4: one ratio on the year.

1206
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:22,880
Speaker 8: And his discogition to the.

1207
01:06:22,920 --> 01:06:25,440
Speaker 4: Ball to his his playmakers last night was pretty good.

1208
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 4: And if he should keep doing that, I think that

1209
01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 4: will help them out.

1210
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:32,400
Speaker 2: All right, So you're your bullets. You believe in their

1211
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: chances to get back to the NCAA tournament by by

1212
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 2: winning an Indy.

1213
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 4: That I mean, yes, yes, I think if they're at

1214
01:06:41,000 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 4: full strength, I think they have a better shot.

1215
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 8: Obviously.

1216
01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 4: I think once you start getting to the bench, just

1217
01:06:45,440 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 4: like anybody else, I think if you have a strong event,

1218
01:06:47,800 --> 01:06:49,720
Speaker 4: and the more teams they have stronger benches and more

1219
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:51,400
Speaker 4: players that can play, it's going.

1220
01:06:51,360 --> 01:06:53,240
Speaker 8: To give you a better, you know, better chance.

1221
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:55,360
Speaker 4: Bodies start to break down towards the end of the year,

1222
01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:57,800
Speaker 4: so I think your bench becomes even more important at

1223
01:06:57,800 --> 01:06:58,200
Speaker 4: that time.

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01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:03,480
Speaker 2: All right, ma'am, you've convinced me. It was fun to

1225
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 2: see him play last night. You know they're two and

1226
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 2: oh when I had ten games, Yeah, and you've.

1227
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,280
Speaker 4: Seen three and oh when I attend their games?

1228
01:07:12,200 --> 01:07:14,920
Speaker 2: Wow, Can you be in Lawrence, Kansas? Can you be

1229
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,480
Speaker 2: in Lawrence, Kansas? On Saturday?

1230
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 8: I told you a few paid for me to fly there.

1231
01:07:21,040 --> 01:07:22,640
Speaker 8: I'll go so they can be four and out.

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01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:26,600
Speaker 2: I understand, Well I'll have to tap into I see,

1233
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 2: look what my my travel budget is. All right, Well,

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01:07:30,080 --> 01:07:34,080
Speaker 2: congratulations to the Norris for the win. It's it's almost March.

1235
01:07:34,680 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 2: The Norse are judged by how they do in the

1236
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:40,360
Speaker 2: Horizon League tournament. I'm a big Darren Horn fan. Hopefully

1237
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 2: they are are are are able to have their name

1238
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,080
Speaker 2: called on selection Sunday. It's nice to hear from you,

1239
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:46,600
Speaker 2: as always.

1240
01:07:48,240 --> 01:07:49,240
Speaker 8: Well, it's good to.

1241
01:07:49,280 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 4: Hear from you. It's been a while and hoping that

1242
01:07:51,400 --> 01:07:55,560
Speaker 4: Norris can win an amy and then I'm calling you

1243
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,200
Speaker 4: again telling you can't wait for that Sunday so we

1244
01:07:58,240 --> 01:07:59,160
Speaker 4: can find out where they're going.

1245
01:07:59,240 --> 01:08:01,080
Speaker 8: Hopefully they make it and they don't go to.

1246
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 4: Birmingham like they did a couple of years ago, to

1247
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 4: the exciting city of Birmingham, Alabama.

1248
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 8: Which was I was so excited to go and we

1249
01:08:10,040 --> 01:08:11,120
Speaker 8: end up going to Birmingham.

1250
01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:14,479
Speaker 4: So would rather not go there. But at this point,

1251
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,160
Speaker 4: when you're in the tournament, you'll go anywhere and play.

1252
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,720
Speaker 2: Uh that's right. Beggars can't beat choosers, no question about it.

1253
01:08:21,720 --> 01:08:23,679
Speaker 2: All right, Well, nice to hear from you as always.

1254
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 8: Yep, see you, thanks a lot.

1255
01:08:26,840 --> 01:08:27,120
Speaker 11: There you go.

1256
01:08:27,240 --> 01:08:29,720
Speaker 2: It's the NKU Hall of Famer Shannon Mine are giving

1257
01:08:29,800 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 2: us a call, surprising us, letting us know about the

1258
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:36,800
Speaker 2: Norse who win last night, uh and beat Purdue Fort Wayne.

1259
01:08:36,840 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 2: How about that that on the heels of Rick Burning's

1260
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 2: appearance yesterday. Well, it is eighteen away from five o'clock

1261
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:46,800
Speaker 2: while we're taking phone calls. Are Mike's on hold? Take

1262
01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 2: Mike's Let's take Mike's call. Mike. Go ahead, you're on

1263
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:50,760
Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty. Mike, what's up?

1264
01:08:52,360 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 11: Thank you? Well, I'm sorry more wile Mike LANs pop

1265
01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:56,760
Speaker 11: out of.

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01:09:01,080 --> 01:09:05,280
Speaker 2: That's all right, go ahead, your mind okay, well there's a.

1267
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Speaker 11: Lot on my mind. Number one, Well not really. I

1268
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:13,840
Speaker 11: really like this Pistons team. It seems to me like

1269
01:09:14,000 --> 01:09:16,360
Speaker 11: they might be in the head of your in the

1270
01:09:16,479 --> 01:09:18,320
Speaker 11: heads of your knicks. What do you think?

1271
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:22,479
Speaker 2: Oh, I mean, we'll find out tonight because they play tonight.

1272
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Speaker 2: But when they played a week and a half ago,

1273
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,080
Speaker 2: when they played a week and a half ago, Detroit

1274
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:35,240
Speaker 2: took them behind the woodshed. So now they've got some

1275
01:09:35,280 --> 01:09:38,760
Speaker 2: guys who aren't available tonight. So Detroit, So we'll see.

1276
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 2: But they when they played the Knicks and both teams

1277
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:44,599
Speaker 2: were without players, that was a forty eight point game.

1278
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:51,000
Speaker 2: The margin climbed to over fifty. The Pistons are terrific now.

1279
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 2: I think when you watch them, you know, are they

1280
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: going to be able to defend at a high enough

1281
01:09:57,120 --> 01:09:58,639
Speaker 2: level and are they going to be able to space

1282
01:09:58,720 --> 01:09:59,920
Speaker 2: the floor as well as they're going to have to

1283
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:03,000
Speaker 2: against good defensive teams. I think the team that's interesting

1284
01:10:03,080 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 2: is Cleveland because as much as I don't love James Harden,

1285
01:10:07,479 --> 01:10:10,160
Speaker 2: there's gonna be an element of offensive firepower that's going

1286
01:10:10,200 --> 01:10:12,800
Speaker 2: to be tough to contend with. The Celtics could take

1287
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:14,920
Speaker 2: them back. You know, they're a really fun story this

1288
01:10:15,080 --> 01:10:17,880
Speaker 2: year because they were sort of left for dead the East.

1289
01:10:18,160 --> 01:10:20,400
Speaker 2: It's called wide open. It's wide open with with a

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Speaker 2: lot of quality. I think New York's best is still

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01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:28,200
Speaker 2: better than everybody else's best. But look, could the Pistons

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Speaker 2: be in the Knicks heads when the Knicks beat him

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01:10:30,120 --> 01:10:31,160
Speaker 2: in the postseason last year?

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Speaker 11: Uh? I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I mean, that's that is that that is a that

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Speaker 2: is a that is a thing that happened. Mike. Although

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Speaker 2: you often told me it wasn't going to is a

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: thing that happened. So who should be in whose head?

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Speaker 2: A team that won a regular season game or a

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01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:51,000
Speaker 2: team that eliminated the other from the postseason?

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Speaker 11: Well, I think we could CoInc with that one because

1302
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,599
Speaker 11: that was in the past and this is current season.

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 11: So hey, well, I'm just we're looking forward to the

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01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:02,600
Speaker 11: game tonight. And I wanted to bring it up to

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01:11:02,680 --> 01:11:05,400
Speaker 11: you because and I I've asked you this before, but

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01:11:05,479 --> 01:11:06,720
Speaker 11: I think it was just one time.

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Speaker 8: Maybe.

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01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,160
Speaker 11: Well, where does your affinity for the Knicks come.

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Speaker 2: From the portion of my childhood when we had to

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Speaker 2: live on the East Coast.

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Speaker 11: That's what it was.

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Speaker 2: Thanksful? Anything else? Do you live in New Jersey or

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01:11:25,000 --> 01:11:27,240
Speaker 2: some beautiful New Jersey?

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Speaker 11: Yes, that's what it was. Okay, Now, I'd like to

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01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 11: get to the red real quick. Good And I did

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01:11:34,479 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 11: a little research today and the comparison between the two

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Speaker 11: editions between the Pirates and the Reds, And this is

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Speaker 11: what I'm really bullish on the Pirates. Of course, I

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01:11:46,880 --> 01:11:48,400
Speaker 11: hope the Reds beat the hell out of them, but

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Speaker 11: but I was looking at the comparison between the two

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01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:59,320
Speaker 11: big additions, Marcelo's in and mister Eflores and the incredibly

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01:11:59,600 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 11: close in their numbers. So when you get time, check

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Speaker 11: out their numbers when you compare the two of them

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Speaker 11: for their career, and it's really pretty close. Yeah, very interesting.

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Speaker 2: Well, I think both teams were similar from this perspective,

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Speaker 2: Like the Reds needed a power bat, but the Pirates

1327
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:27,320
Speaker 2: last year hit thirty one fewer home runs than any

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01:12:27,400 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 2: other team, So the Reds needed a power bat. But

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01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:35,439
Speaker 2: what you're hoping for is like that power bat helps

1330
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:39,360
Speaker 2: amplify a guy like Elie de la Cruz. And you know,

1331
01:12:39,439 --> 01:12:41,160
Speaker 2: it's not like the Reds were last in the league

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01:12:41,200 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 2: in home runs. The Pirates were. And so it's it's

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01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,519
Speaker 2: Brandon Laue, it's Marcelo Zuna, it's Ryan O'Hearn, who I

1334
01:12:47,640 --> 01:12:51,760
Speaker 2: really like, like they they need. Their big priority was

1335
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,760
Speaker 2: pop and they've addressed it. They've had a good They've

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01:12:55,880 --> 01:13:00,679
Speaker 2: they've had a really really good offseason. I'm not sure

1337
01:13:00,720 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 2: how much of an upgrade Ozuna is a dh from

1338
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 2: Andrew McCutcheon at this stage in his career, but I

1339
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:09,559
Speaker 2: do think he is an upgrade. I don't know if

1340
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:11,880
Speaker 2: the Pirates are capable from going from a team that

1341
01:13:12,160 --> 01:13:14,840
Speaker 2: was nowhere near the postseason last year to a team

1342
01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 2: that's suddenly going to leap frog a bunch. But what

1343
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:19,920
Speaker 2: they have on the mound with Mitch Keller and Paul

1344
01:13:19,960 --> 01:13:23,759
Speaker 2: Skenes obviously goes without saying. They're to be taken seriously

1345
01:13:24,400 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: more than they have been. Whether you're the Rads or

1346
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 2: the Cubs or the Brewers, the Pittsburgh Pirates are to

1347
01:13:29,840 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 2: be taken more seriously now than at any point over

1348
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:34,920
Speaker 2: the last let's just say decade, and that is a

1349
01:13:35,080 --> 01:13:37,960
Speaker 2: large part because of the arms they had and the

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01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:41,200
Speaker 2: offseason they've had in relation to adding power bats.

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Speaker 11: Do you put really quick things? Have you been to

1352
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 11: PNC Park?

1353
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,519
Speaker 2: Yes, it's my favorite, non Wrigley Field Park.

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01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:54,080
Speaker 11: I love it. I love that place now.

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01:13:54,280 --> 01:13:54,759
Speaker 2: It's awesome.

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01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:57,200
Speaker 11: I haven't been there for a long time, but somebody

1357
01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:00,600
Speaker 11: told me they had done some renovations and that you

1358
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,839
Speaker 11: can go into the men's room and use the urinal

1359
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:07,040
Speaker 11: and look over the wall and see the game. Is

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Speaker 11: that true or why?

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Speaker 2: I have no idea?

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01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:13,920
Speaker 11: Well, it's a pretty cool idea though.

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01:14:14,760 --> 01:14:14,880
Speaker 7: Ye.

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Speaker 2: No, as long as as long as you can see

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01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:21,160
Speaker 2: out and others can see in. Yeah, it's awesome. Last

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01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:22,720
Speaker 2: time I was at P and C Park I think

1367
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:26,800
Speaker 2: was twenty eighteen. It is awesome. I've actually never been

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01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:29,880
Speaker 2: to P and C Park when it's been full. The

1369
01:14:29,960 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 2: Pirates for most of PNC Park's existence haven't been very good.

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01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,840
Speaker 2: They were obviously really good in twenty thirteen and twenty

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01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:38,880
Speaker 2: fourteen beat the Reds in that wildcard game. It is

1372
01:14:39,000 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 2: an awesome place to watch a ball game. But as

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01:14:42,439 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: for the urinal situation, whether you can take care of

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01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,680
Speaker 2: business and still see the field, I don't know if

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01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:50,840
Speaker 2: that's a thing. If it's a thing, it's been something

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01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,280
Speaker 2: they've added since I last went.

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Speaker 11: Kind of a cool idea, though, when you think about it,

1378
01:14:55,479 --> 01:14:56,080
Speaker 11: as long as it.

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01:14:56,120 --> 01:15:00,400
Speaker 2: Sure has never missed a minute of the action, absolutely.

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Speaker 11: Especially in the eighth of the ninth anyone as close

1381
01:15:03,920 --> 01:15:06,320
Speaker 11: and one last thing, do you put any of any

1382
01:15:07,479 --> 01:15:14,040
Speaker 11: NFL team valuations as far as you know what they're worth,

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01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:16,479
Speaker 11: into how.

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01:15:17,360 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: Well they do?

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01:15:18,160 --> 01:15:23,360
Speaker 11: Because the Worries meet because the Bengals are dead last, uh.

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01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:32,559
Speaker 2: No, sot so the Cowboys and the most valuable team

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01:15:32,600 --> 01:15:37,240
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Correct, And then it's so it's like

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01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 2: Dallas one. So like it's Dallas one. How how far

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01:15:41,400 --> 01:15:47,160
Speaker 2: is the gap between Dallas and the Rams two billion

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01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:54,679
Speaker 2: over the over the last thirty years. Over the last

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01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,640
Speaker 2: thirty years, the Cowboys and Bengals have played in the

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01:15:57,680 --> 01:15:59,880
Speaker 2: most number have played in the same number of Super Bowls.

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Speaker 11: I love it because I hate Dallas and I always will.

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01:16:05,320 --> 01:16:07,120
Speaker 11: Thank you, boll appreciate the time.

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Speaker 2: Okay, of course, yeah, thanks very much. The Bengals are

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01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:14,559
Speaker 2: I think worth five five and a quarter billion dollars. Yeah,

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01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 2: all right, Mike, I appreciate the phone call. Bengals are

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01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:20,320
Speaker 2: Forbes had this. I don't know it was before the season,

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01:16:20,400 --> 01:16:26,360
Speaker 2: like five and a quarter billion dollars. Many many will

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01:16:26,439 --> 01:16:29,840
Speaker 2: use that as ammunition to make the claim that the

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01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:33,400
Speaker 2: Bengals have a cash flow problem. Bengals don't have a

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01:16:33,479 --> 01:16:40,720
Speaker 2: cash problem. No NFL team has a cash problem. R there.

1403
01:16:40,760 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 2: It is that the Bengals revenue. This is prior to

1404
01:16:43,479 --> 01:16:47,120
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season, the Bengals revenue was five

1405
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: and seventy three million dollars. Like it isn't it's it's

1406
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:55,599
Speaker 2: It's really hard to lose money owning a pro sports team.

1407
01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:57,880
Speaker 2: It's like these baseball owners cry poverty. None of them

1408
01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 2: ever sell their teams. If you lose money owning an

1409
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:04,160
Speaker 2: NFL team. I can't even begin to think how bad

1410
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,960
Speaker 2: of a business person you are. Ten away from five o'clock.

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01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: Speaking of the Bengals, they haven't tagged and traded Trey Hendrickson.

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01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 2: There's internet chatter about them and Max Crosby one area

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,920
Speaker 2: ice cream companies trying to get Max to come to Cincinnati.

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01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:20,800
Speaker 2: There's also some who go like, why aren't they signing

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01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,280
Speaker 2: the best free agent available? We will spend some time

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:25,640
Speaker 2: on that coming up in the five o'clock hour on

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Speaker 2: Thanks for listening today. Hopefully you're having like an awesome Thursday.

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Speaker 2: I guess we're getting bad storms later, but it was

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Speaker 2: warm today, it was warm yesterday, and I love it,

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Speaker 2: love it. I'm running off at about thirty minutes later. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's all over by Sunday. Why jaf to remind me?

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Speaker 2: Why jaff to remind me? Anyway in about thirty minutes.

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Speaker 2: If you, uh, if you love collecting cards, baseball cards,

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Speaker 2: But if you love card collecting, there's an awesome event

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Speaker 2: happening this weekend that we're going to learn more about,

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Speaker 2: and so be here for that at five thirty five.

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Speaker 2: We've we've kind of hit on a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: different things. Today. We started the show by talking about

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01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:24,320
Speaker 2: Hunter Green. I get accused of I got an email

1450
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:27,880
Speaker 2: here accusing me of giving Hunter Green a tongue bath. Now,

1451
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,439
Speaker 2: let me tell you something. Okay, let me tell you something.

1452
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:36,840
Speaker 2: If you send me correspondents that uses the term tongue bath,

1453
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,080
Speaker 2: I will laugh every single time the audio. This week,

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01:19:43,160 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: Hunter Green's sticking up for himself, which good for him,

1455
01:19:46,200 --> 01:19:48,320
Speaker 2: good for an athlete sticking up, good for anybody sticking

1456
01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,920
Speaker 2: up for themselves. Hunter Green's took up for himself and

1457
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,680
Speaker 2: address narratives that had built regarding his injury last year

1458
01:19:55,720 --> 01:19:59,400
Speaker 2: and talked about, you know, defamation of character and he's hurt,

1459
01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 2: he's pit And this narrative did build last year about

1460
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 2: Hunter Green because it was a while between starts, it

1461
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:12,599
Speaker 2: was a while his stay on the injured list. And look,

1462
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: the Reds are at their best when they're starting staff

1463
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,360
Speaker 2: is at its best, and the red starting staff is

1464
01:20:17,439 --> 01:20:20,240
Speaker 2: at its best when Hunter Green is healthy. When healthy,

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01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 2: he's one of the best fifteen pitchers in baseball, twenty

1466
01:20:24,320 --> 01:20:27,640
Speaker 2: pitchers in baseball. Heck, maybe the company is more exclusive

1467
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 2: than that. If the Reds are gonna win big this year,

1468
01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:33,840
Speaker 2: Hunter Green has to make all his starts. And you

1469
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:36,080
Speaker 2: could say that about a lot of guys on their staff.

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01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,920
Speaker 2: But this did build last year. This did build last

1471
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 2: year where there was a level of exasperation that felt

1472
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 2: like it was being communicated through the media on behalf

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:54,439
Speaker 2: of people with the team. Could have been players, could

1474
01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 2: have been ownership, could have been management, coaches, manager, There

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01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:03,240
Speaker 2: was a level of exasperation with Hunter Green, quote slow

1476
01:21:03,360 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 2: playing his return from injury. It was one of the

1477
01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:11,400
Speaker 2: things that was talked about a lot, and you could

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01:21:11,479 --> 01:21:14,920
Speaker 2: understand Hunter Green being upset about that, like folks would

1479
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:19,040
Speaker 2: write about it, It would get talked about. But what

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01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: was being written about and talked about when it comes

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01:21:22,400 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 2: to Hunter Green was coming from a place of information,

1482
01:21:27,200 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 2: and the information the people covering the team were getting

1483
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 2: was folks in the organization were exasperated with Hunter Green.

1484
01:21:37,000 --> 01:21:40,599
Speaker 2: Who folks in the organization were. Your guess is as

1485
01:21:40,640 --> 01:21:46,360
Speaker 2: good as mine. Maybe they were teammates, maybe maybe they

1486
01:21:46,439 --> 01:21:50,080
Speaker 2: were maybe they were coaches. Who knows. Here's what I

1487
01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:54,200
Speaker 2: do know that regardless of how you felt about Hunter

1488
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:57,280
Speaker 2: Green last season, maybe you believe you know what he

1489
01:21:57,360 --> 01:21:59,400
Speaker 2: should have done more to try to come back. From

1490
01:21:59,439 --> 01:22:03,920
Speaker 2: my perspective, athlete knows his or her body. But what

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01:22:04,040 --> 01:22:07,040
Speaker 2: the Reds do want to do long term is ensure

1492
01:22:07,160 --> 01:22:10,960
Speaker 2: that their best players want to stay with them. They

1493
01:22:11,040 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 2: made a big deal about this, right, Ellie de other Cruz, Hey,

1494
01:22:13,360 --> 01:22:16,599
Speaker 2: we tried. We tried to make him the highest paid

1495
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,799
Speaker 2: Reds player of all time. Cool, there's a difference between

1496
01:22:21,000 --> 01:22:23,920
Speaker 2: highest paid Reds player of all time and highest paid

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01:22:24,040 --> 01:22:27,160
Speaker 2: Major League Baseball player of all time. But yeah, man,

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01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:30,000
Speaker 2: this has been a topic since, like Ellie's third game.

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Speaker 2: Are they gonna keep this guy?

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Speaker 10: Like?

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01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,840
Speaker 2: I hear about this, and there are lots of us

1502
01:22:35,439 --> 01:22:38,879
Speaker 2: who hear about this NonStop, from folks who are already

1503
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:42,120
Speaker 2: worked in a ladder about Ellie maybe one day leaving.

1504
01:22:42,760 --> 01:22:45,559
Speaker 2: The Reds would like to keep him long term. Whether

1505
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,519
Speaker 2: or not they can. I'm skeptical, think most of us

1506
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,439
Speaker 2: should be skeptical. If we were to wager on this,

1507
01:22:52,040 --> 01:22:54,240
Speaker 2: is Ellie gonna be a Red at the end of

1508
01:22:54,280 --> 01:22:57,360
Speaker 2: his current contract? The smart money is on no. But

1509
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,120
Speaker 2: this is something they want to do. And if it's

1510
01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 2: not Ellie, it can still be Ellie. But it's also

1511
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:05,360
Speaker 2: Matt McClain maybe and maybe down the road, Sal Stewart

1512
01:23:05,439 --> 01:23:08,720
Speaker 2: and perhaps some of the other pictures Abbot Lodolo like,

1513
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,880
Speaker 2: they'd love for some of these guys to stick around,

1514
01:23:11,960 --> 01:23:16,320
Speaker 2: acknowledging that maybe not all of them will, but that's

1515
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 2: a thing, right, They want their guys to stick around.

1516
01:23:19,920 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 2: If you want players to stick around, don't dump all

1517
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 2: over them behind their backs. Pretty simple. Want me to

1518
01:23:28,920 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 2: work for you, cool, I'll come work for you. The

1519
01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:35,120
Speaker 2: culture of the office, a lot of gossip, a lot

1520
01:23:35,200 --> 01:23:39,040
Speaker 2: of backstabbing, a lot of rumors spreading because it's the

1521
01:23:39,080 --> 01:23:41,960
Speaker 2: answers are yes, I ain't coming. I've been lucky in

1522
01:23:42,040 --> 01:23:44,680
Speaker 2: my career. Man, I've not really worked at places like that.

1523
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:50,000
Speaker 2: But you want me to start thinking about where I'm

1524
01:23:50,040 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 2: gonna go next. Build narratives about me. Question my integrity question,

1525
01:23:55,600 --> 01:24:00,240
Speaker 2: my character question, my competitiveness question, openly what you I think.

1526
01:24:00,280 --> 01:24:03,280
Speaker 2: I'm really doing everything I can to come back from injury.

1527
01:24:03,640 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 2: That exasperation was there last year. It may be proven

1528
01:24:07,840 --> 01:24:11,120
Speaker 2: that that exasperation was warranted, And yeah, man, there's always

1529
01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, you kind of start to lose patience when

1530
01:24:14,080 --> 01:24:17,240
Speaker 2: a player is always injured. As Bengals fans, we're all

1531
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,200
Speaker 2: tired of Joe Burrow getting hurt. Right now, Joe Burrow

1532
01:24:20,240 --> 01:24:23,280
Speaker 2: getting hurt is not really a reflection of him. It's

1533
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:26,240
Speaker 2: certainly no reflection of his character. But yeah, yeah, you

1534
01:24:26,360 --> 01:24:29,160
Speaker 2: do get tired of a great player or an important

1535
01:24:29,200 --> 01:24:32,600
Speaker 2: player getting hurt a lot. It stinks, it hurts the

1536
01:24:32,760 --> 01:24:36,080
Speaker 2: chances of the team winning. We all understand that. But

1537
01:24:36,160 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 2: if you're Hunter Green, like a dude who is let's

1538
01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,479
Speaker 2: call it what it is. He's taken less to play here.

1539
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:45,679
Speaker 2: He's taken less than he would get an arbitration. Obviously,

1540
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,439
Speaker 2: he can't go anywhere right now, but he did give

1541
01:24:48,479 --> 01:24:50,560
Speaker 2: the Reds his last year or his first year a

1542
01:24:50,600 --> 01:24:54,479
Speaker 2: free agency. Like he's done everything you could ask. It's

1543
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 2: been everything you could ask. And the reward is when

1544
01:24:57,880 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 2: you get hurt, you got people on the team you

1545
01:25:00,320 --> 01:25:04,120
Speaker 2: play for or the organization you work for talking talking

1546
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 2: smack about you, talking behind your back, questioning your integrity,

1547
01:25:08,479 --> 01:25:13,080
Speaker 2: questioning maybe your competitiveness. Yeah, that'd bother me. I bet

1548
01:25:13,160 --> 01:25:16,000
Speaker 2: it would bother you. And what it would do is

1549
01:25:16,120 --> 01:25:19,200
Speaker 2: make you wonder long term, I really want to be here.

1550
01:25:20,280 --> 01:25:23,840
Speaker 2: Like dude, I get hurt, I do what I gotta

1551
01:25:23,880 --> 01:25:26,719
Speaker 2: do for my body, and I'm gonna have people here questioning,

1552
01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,719
Speaker 2: like how seriously I take my craft, questioning my commitment

1553
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:35,840
Speaker 2: to my team? Yeah, to hell with that. So want

1554
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,599
Speaker 2: to get guys to want to stay here. Word of advice,

1555
01:25:39,080 --> 01:25:43,160
Speaker 2: don't be the team that just behind the scenes dumps

1556
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 2: all over the integrity and character of your guys or else,

1557
01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:51,519
Speaker 2: no one's gonna want to stay. Pretty simple man, like

1558
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:54,439
Speaker 2: I want to be able to retain employees, Don't talk

1559
01:25:54,439 --> 01:25:58,760
Speaker 2: about them behind their backs, don't gossip. Want to get

1560
01:25:58,800 --> 01:26:00,920
Speaker 2: people to want to stay working for you, that's hot.

1561
01:26:01,479 --> 01:26:06,839
Speaker 2: The exact opposite way is gossip all the time, Undermine

1562
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:10,360
Speaker 2: them all the time, talk about their you know, integrity,

1563
01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:14,280
Speaker 2: talk about their work ethic, question them because that'll come

1564
01:26:14,320 --> 01:26:18,439
Speaker 2: back to them. Maybe less so in a sector like

1565
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,799
Speaker 2: you know, a normal office, normal workplace than a baseball

1566
01:26:21,880 --> 01:26:24,320
Speaker 2: team where you have you know, reporters who are looking

1567
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 2: for scoops, looking for sources, and none of those people

1568
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,280
Speaker 2: who cover the team are guilty of anything. All they're

1569
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:33,720
Speaker 2: doing is conveying, Like, dude, here's kind of what's out

1570
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:36,160
Speaker 2: there about Hunter Green. And it was a thing last year.

1571
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:39,800
Speaker 2: If you were a Hunter Green, you would feel like

1572
01:26:39,920 --> 01:26:42,840
Speaker 2: your integrity was being questioned. And if you feel like

1573
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,560
Speaker 2: your integrity is being questioned by people you work with

1574
01:26:45,880 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 2: or work for, you will start to wonder do I

1575
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:51,320
Speaker 2: want to continue to work here? Do not be the

1576
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:54,200
Speaker 2: baseball team that people don't want to stay with because

1577
01:26:54,240 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 2: you question their integrity. Somebody's gonna get hurt this year,

1578
01:26:57,800 --> 01:27:00,800
Speaker 2: and maybe they bust their ask to come back, or

1579
01:27:00,840 --> 01:27:04,160
Speaker 2: maybe they go at their own pace, because again, athlete

1580
01:27:04,240 --> 01:27:09,080
Speaker 2: knows his or her body when it happens. Okay, you know,

1581
01:27:09,960 --> 01:27:11,920
Speaker 2: drop little nuggets to the people that cover the team

1582
01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:14,519
Speaker 2: about how you're exasperated with them or you don't like

1583
01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:18,240
Speaker 2: the pace at which they've come back. Okay, cool. Then

1584
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:22,479
Speaker 2: don't stand there wondering what happened when that player decides, actually,

1585
01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: I don't want to re up with you, don't want

1586
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:27,960
Speaker 2: to extend my deal, don't want to take less money,

1587
01:27:28,800 --> 01:27:32,200
Speaker 2: don't want to not leave for somewhere else. There's something

1588
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 2: about that Hunter Green thing that's worth paying attention to.

1589
01:27:35,800 --> 01:27:37,920
Speaker 2: And it's not just a dude sticking up for himself.

1590
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:41,560
Speaker 2: It's a guy telling you, like, hey man, I'm not

1591
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,320
Speaker 2: going to put up with people that I play with

1592
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 2: and work for crap it on me behind my back,

1593
01:27:46,479 --> 01:27:49,280
Speaker 2: questioning my integrity. If that's what you want to be

1594
01:27:49,400 --> 01:27:52,719
Speaker 2: known for as a Major League Baseball organization, then prepare

1595
01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:56,240
Speaker 2: for players to not want to play for you. Fourteen

1596
01:27:56,280 --> 01:27:59,120
Speaker 2: minutes after five o'clock. You can tell me if I'm wrong.

1597
01:27:59,160 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 2: Five point three seven thirty awesome card event coming up.

1598
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:06,280
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go on Sunday and check this out. It's

1599
01:28:06,280 --> 01:28:08,280
Speaker 2: gonna be at Oakley Greens and we're gonna hear more

1600
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 2: about it coming up in just about twenty minutes. I

1601
01:28:12,680 --> 01:28:14,680
Speaker 2: have not thrown a poll question out there yet on

1602
01:28:14,760 --> 01:28:18,679
Speaker 2: Twitter because I am woefully inept five point three seven

1603
01:28:18,720 --> 01:28:22,120
Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty is our phone number. The Bengals

1604
01:28:22,240 --> 01:28:29,120
Speaker 2: have not tagged Trey Hendrickson yet, which you know. If

1605
01:28:29,160 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 2: they don't, he's gonna hit free agency and it would

1606
01:28:32,200 --> 01:28:35,400
Speaker 2: be fascinating to see what the market would look like

1607
01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 2: and where he is going to end up. Is it

1608
01:28:38,160 --> 01:28:42,800
Speaker 2: gonna be Indy Reunion with lou Anarumo? Is it gonna

1609
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:45,600
Speaker 2: be Chicago? The Bears could use Edge Rusher help. Is

1610
01:28:45,640 --> 01:28:47,559
Speaker 2: it gonna be San Francisco? I said this to Paul

1611
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,720
Speaker 2: Danner on Tuesday. Trey Hendrickson just feels like a San

1612
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:55,519
Speaker 2: Francisco forty nine er. Is it gonna be inside the division?

1613
01:28:56,320 --> 01:28:59,760
Speaker 2: It ain't gonna be Cincinnati, and there are reasons for that,

1614
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:03,200
Speaker 2: which we should discuss next on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 6: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: on Warsaw Avenue at Grand Avenue. Vehicle there into a

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Speaker 2: I'm also guaranteed human twenty one after five o'clock. This

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Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty. Podcasts of this show are available

1627
01:29:47,160 --> 01:29:51,519
Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. So anything you may have missed,

1628
01:29:51,680 --> 01:29:54,160
Speaker 2: anything you want to hear again, you can listen to

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01:29:54,320 --> 01:29:57,639
Speaker 2: on the iHeartRadio app. We'll podcast some stuff from earlier today.

1630
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:02,120
Speaker 2: Very good conversation with having curved from Apple TV MLS

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Speaker 2: season pass on FC Cincinnati a a goal interrupted conversation

1632
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,240
Speaker 2: with our friend Chad Brendel of barcat Journal dot com.

1633
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:14,240
Speaker 2: We had to interrupt the conversation to inform you in

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01:30:14,320 --> 01:30:17,559
Speaker 2: the audience, even if you weren't there, that the United

1635
01:30:17,600 --> 01:30:20,439
Speaker 2: States be canna in overtime in the gold medal game

1636
01:30:20,479 --> 01:30:22,240
Speaker 2: in women's hockey. But in the middle of all that,

1637
01:30:23,479 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 2: we did a Chad Brendall conversation where we talked about

1638
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:28,479
Speaker 2: the Bearcats and Wes Miller and mccrona a little bit

1639
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,920
Speaker 2: and so much more little UC baseball, Chad's willingness to

1640
01:30:32,080 --> 01:30:39,120
Speaker 2: participate in a possible and it's it's possible ESPN fifteen

1641
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:43,160
Speaker 2: thirty tweet up at a UC baseball game. All right,

1642
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:47,040
Speaker 2: I was talking about this on social media. College baseball

1643
01:30:47,160 --> 01:30:49,080
Speaker 2: is a lot of fun. Let's be honest. There are

1644
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:51,960
Speaker 2: a couple of things that work against college baseball in

1645
01:30:52,040 --> 01:30:55,760
Speaker 2: this market. A. The season starts before the weather has

1646
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:59,960
Speaker 2: completely flipped. B. We have a Major League baseball team here,

1647
01:31:00,720 --> 01:31:04,120
Speaker 2: but we've got some good college baseball programs. And as

1648
01:31:04,200 --> 01:31:07,759
Speaker 2: much as people love their schools and their alma maters

1649
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:13,320
Speaker 2: in this market, in this town. I've at times wondered

1650
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: why there isn't at least a little bit more interest

1651
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,280
Speaker 2: and support for people's individual teams years and years ago,

1652
01:31:21,240 --> 01:31:24,040
Speaker 2: and I remember why we did this years and years ago.

1653
01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:26,920
Speaker 2: And when I say years and years ago, I mean

1654
01:31:27,040 --> 01:31:31,320
Speaker 2: like two thousand and nine or eight, like forever ago,

1655
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:37,960
Speaker 2: the University of Cincinnati announced that they were starting beer

1656
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:42,679
Speaker 2: sales at baseball games, which we thought was cool because

1657
01:31:43,840 --> 01:31:47,160
Speaker 2: I like a cold one, and you know, you could

1658
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,120
Speaker 2: buy a cold one out of UC basketball game, You

1659
01:31:49,160 --> 01:31:51,080
Speaker 2: could buy a cold one out of UC football game.

1660
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,920
Speaker 2: Why not at a baseball game? And again, starting in

1661
01:31:54,040 --> 01:31:56,120
Speaker 2: like two thousand and nine, now you could And I

1662
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,000
Speaker 2: remember like telling this to people, like you know, you

1663
01:31:58,080 --> 01:31:59,600
Speaker 2: go to those games, you can get a beer, and

1664
01:31:59,640 --> 01:32:04,320
Speaker 2: they're like, huh. So we decided to do I believe

1665
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:07,800
Speaker 2: we did call it a tweet up, and you know,

1666
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 2: let's be honest. As much as I still really enjoy

1667
01:32:11,560 --> 01:32:18,000
Speaker 2: Twitter as a social media platform, you can argue it

1668
01:32:18,200 --> 01:32:20,800
Speaker 2: was a little bit more fun on that app back then.

1669
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,400
Speaker 2: I think that's kind of before everybody totally lost their mind,

1670
01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 2: And so we decided to do a tweet up and

1671
01:32:28,200 --> 01:32:31,240
Speaker 2: I remember it was one of the first like events

1672
01:32:31,360 --> 01:32:33,200
Speaker 2: like that that we did on this show, and the

1673
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:35,400
Speaker 2: turnout was really really good. You had a lot of

1674
01:32:35,479 --> 01:32:39,240
Speaker 2: folks who had never been to a college baseball game before,

1675
01:32:39,320 --> 01:32:42,600
Speaker 2: much less you see baseball game. Now, the team this

1676
01:32:42,720 --> 01:32:44,640
Speaker 2: year looks like it has a chance to be pretty good.

1677
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:46,920
Speaker 2: They just upset Auburn the other night. They played in

1678
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:51,360
Speaker 2: the NCAA Tournament last year. Jordan Bischell has proven, I

1679
01:32:51,400 --> 01:32:53,519
Speaker 2: think so far, to be a good hire. Just got

1680
01:32:53,560 --> 01:32:57,600
Speaker 2: a contract extension and so you know, and that's the

1681
01:32:57,680 --> 01:32:59,519
Speaker 2: case you get, you know, hey, we're gonna talk a

1682
01:32:59,560 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 2: little bit more or college baseball. And it's like, yes,

1683
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:04,680
Speaker 2: we did have Jordan Bishell on the show. We've had

1684
01:33:04,720 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 2: Billy O'Connor on the show from Xavier. Like talking to

1685
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:11,760
Speaker 2: college baseball is fun, but like the overall interest isn't there,

1686
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 2: And so like I'd still love to do an outing now.

1687
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,400
Speaker 2: You do have to work around the weather. We have

1688
01:33:19,560 --> 01:33:20,920
Speaker 2: to work around the fact that they have a lot

1689
01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,840
Speaker 2: of games that take place later in the afternoon while

1690
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:27,840
Speaker 2: we are still on the air. But it's one of

1691
01:33:27,880 --> 01:33:30,840
Speaker 2: those too where it's like folks say they'll go and

1692
01:33:30,880 --> 01:33:34,000
Speaker 2: then it's like, well they really so I'm considering it.

1693
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,200
Speaker 2: We're working on it. Got Chad Brundle to be involved,

1694
01:33:39,240 --> 01:33:41,960
Speaker 2: had some folks chime in on social media saying, you know, yeah,

1695
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 2: I'll do it. I'll be there. So we'll see. I'm

1696
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:52,120
Speaker 2: not not totally on board yet, but I'm I'm getting there.

1697
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,479
Speaker 2: I'm getting there. We'll see, Like I need everybody who's like, yeah, man,

1698
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:58,639
Speaker 2: you know, need to make college baseball a bigger part

1699
01:33:58,680 --> 01:34:00,400
Speaker 2: of the show to actually come to Stan like this.

1700
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:04,960
Speaker 2: So we'll see, we'll see. Stay tuned. As we say

1701
01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:08,760
Speaker 2: no movement on Trey Hendrickson, there's obviously a lot of

1702
01:34:08,840 --> 01:34:12,120
Speaker 2: chatter around the NFL about Max Crosby and the Raiders,

1703
01:34:12,200 --> 01:34:15,720
Speaker 2: and as watching Get Up This Morning on ESPN and

1704
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:19,040
Speaker 2: Adam Schefter is outlining like the Raiders are asking for

1705
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,200
Speaker 2: the moon and they should like It's it's like the

1706
01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,240
Speaker 2: Bengals with Trey Hendrickson last year. The asking price for

1707
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,360
Speaker 2: Trey back then should have been exorbitant, and the asking

1708
01:34:27,439 --> 01:34:32,640
Speaker 2: price by the Raiders for Max Crosby is apparently also exorbitant.

1709
01:34:32,680 --> 01:34:36,240
Speaker 2: They're under no real pressure to trade him, so they're

1710
01:34:36,280 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: asking for a one. They're asking for other draft capital.

1711
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 2: They are setting the price really, really high. Could the

1712
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,640
Speaker 2: Bengals be interested? I don't know how They're not at

1713
01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: least interested in the player. Now, are they really gonna

1714
01:34:48,280 --> 01:34:50,280
Speaker 2: go bold and give up the tenth overall pick for

1715
01:34:50,400 --> 01:34:54,479
Speaker 2: Max Crosby. What we know about this franchise would suggest

1716
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:57,320
Speaker 2: the answer is no. Some will say, like, why don't

1717
01:34:57,320 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: you just keep Trey Hendrickson. Like the part of this

1718
01:35:01,360 --> 01:35:05,880
Speaker 2: that when you say people laugh is they have to

1719
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:12,360
Speaker 2: really like Miles Murphy and like there's room for two truths,

1720
01:35:12,479 --> 01:35:16,200
Speaker 2: as there always are. Right one truth is it took

1721
01:35:16,280 --> 01:35:20,240
Speaker 2: way too long for Miles Murphy to produce in a

1722
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 2: league that is all about cheap labor, in a league

1723
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,400
Speaker 2: where it's never mattered more to have your draft picks

1724
01:35:26,439 --> 01:35:31,439
Speaker 2: make an immediate impact. Miles Murphy's immediate impact was not existent.

1725
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:37,479
Speaker 2: That's a fair statement. But the way that he played

1726
01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:41,360
Speaker 2: last year was really good, especially in the second half

1727
01:35:41,400 --> 01:35:44,640
Speaker 2: of the season. If you watched him, I think you

1728
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,640
Speaker 2: saw a guy that you're like, dude, I want that

1729
01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:48,680
Speaker 2: guy to be on the team moving forward. And that

1730
01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,800
Speaker 2: is a player who is he is ascending, he's trending upward.

1731
01:35:52,080 --> 01:35:54,400
Speaker 2: Maybe he's been a late bloomer. Maybe the light bulb

1732
01:35:54,439 --> 01:35:57,080
Speaker 2: has finally come on. Maybe, you know, he's benefited from

1733
01:35:57,080 --> 01:36:00,120
Speaker 2: the accumulation of experience, maybe benefited from Trey hendry To

1734
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:03,719
Speaker 2: not being on the field. Whatever it was. They invested

1735
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 2: a first round pick in Miles Murphy and they're finally

1736
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:10,599
Speaker 2: getting return on that investment. This could also be true

1737
01:36:10,720 --> 01:36:13,679
Speaker 2: that Miles Murphy looks like a guy that you could

1738
01:36:13,720 --> 01:36:18,600
Speaker 2: help build around. Why was Miles Murphy drafted? He was

1739
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:23,360
Speaker 2: drafted to one day replaced Trey Hendrickson. Has he played

1740
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:28,320
Speaker 2: like a possible replacement for Trey Hendrickson recently? Yes, The

1741
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:32,360
Speaker 2: fact that he didn't in twenty twenty three, frankly shouldn't

1742
01:36:32,400 --> 01:36:38,599
Speaker 2: disqualify Miles Murphy from being a viable Tray Hendrickson replacement.

1743
01:36:40,040 --> 01:36:43,400
Speaker 2: That's a thing that is happening right now. If they

1744
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,200
Speaker 2: drafted him with the idea that he's going to replace Tray,

1745
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:50,080
Speaker 2: because there's going to be a point twenty twenty six

1746
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,640
Speaker 2: where Tray is no longer with the team and the

1747
01:36:52,840 --> 01:36:57,000
Speaker 2: dude is playing well, why should they suddenly pivot in

1748
01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 2: another direction and go, you know what, Miles is knocking

1749
01:36:59,920 --> 01:37:03,840
Speaker 2: to be the heir apparent to Trey Hendrickson. They also

1750
01:37:04,000 --> 01:37:08,240
Speaker 2: drafted Shamar Stewart. Now, Chamar's rookie season could not have

1751
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:12,880
Speaker 2: gone more sideways, and you know he's he's complicit in

1752
01:37:13,000 --> 01:37:19,240
Speaker 2: that obviously, But would you expect the Bengals to totally

1753
01:37:19,320 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 2: bail on Shamar Stewart after one year when injury was

1754
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:28,200
Speaker 2: a factor. The answer can't be yes, especially when another

1755
01:37:28,280 --> 01:37:33,240
Speaker 2: guy they've drafted at the same position. It's taken a

1756
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,080
Speaker 2: while now with Shamar Stewart, we're certainly hoping it doesn't

1757
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 2: take a third year before the production comes. But if

1758
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,080
Speaker 2: you're willing to look at Miles Murphy and go, you

1759
01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,320
Speaker 2: know what, forget year one, look at what we're getting now,

1760
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,000
Speaker 2: why do you not go Shamar Stewart, forget your one?

1761
01:37:46,600 --> 01:37:50,640
Speaker 2: Brighter days are ahead, Like those two guys matter. Now

1762
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:53,720
Speaker 2: you need more. And it would be really surprising if

1763
01:37:53,720 --> 01:37:56,879
Speaker 2: the Bengals didn't bolster their pass rush in free agency,

1764
01:37:56,960 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 2: whether it's edge or whether it's on the interior the

1765
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 2: defensive line, or ideally both. And it would be pretty

1766
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 2: surprising if that wasn't an area of focus in the draft.

1767
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:08,400
Speaker 2: And holy hell, I mean sign me up for talking

1768
01:38:08,439 --> 01:38:11,400
Speaker 2: as much about Ruben Bain as possible, but like there's

1769
01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:15,360
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, but there's also tons of money and other

1770
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:18,080
Speaker 2: edge rushers available. There's the need to make the pass

1771
01:38:18,160 --> 01:38:20,920
Speaker 2: rush better on the inside. There's the possibility they can

1772
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:23,679
Speaker 2: get an edge with the tenth overall pick. Maybe Ruben

1773
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:26,840
Speaker 2: Bain is there. Also, they have to like what they're

1774
01:38:26,880 --> 01:38:31,040
Speaker 2: getting from Miles Murphy and they like Schamar Stewart enough

1775
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:35,720
Speaker 2: to draft them. And I don't know that one sideways

1776
01:38:35,880 --> 01:38:38,640
Speaker 2: year is enough to make them feel like, you know what,

1777
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,960
Speaker 2: we screwed the pickup. So let's go back and rethink

1778
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:46,760
Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson, who's coming off of season where he got

1779
01:38:46,840 --> 01:38:50,920
Speaker 2: hurt five point thirty. If you're a sports card collector,

1780
01:38:51,000 --> 01:38:54,160
Speaker 2: this event coming up on Sunday is something you don't

1781
01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:57,200
Speaker 2: want to miss. We'll talk about it next on ESPN

1782
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:57,920
Speaker 2: fifteen thirty.

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1785
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Speaker 7: accident on Warsaw Avenue at Grand Avenue. Vehicle there into

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Speaker 7: a pole and still got that crash along State Route

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01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:34,200
Speaker 7: at Ezelic with traffic.

1793
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:38,479
Speaker 12: This is ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1794
01:39:40,320 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 2: There's a really cool event. If you're in do cards,

1795
01:39:43,640 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: baseball cards, sports cards, if you're in a hanging out,

1796
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,800
Speaker 2: it's gonna be a lot of fun on Sunday, the

1797
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:52,080
Speaker 2: inaugural Cards show by Liquid Sports Cards at Oakley Greens.

1798
01:39:52,120 --> 01:39:54,000
Speaker 2: You know how much we love the folks at Oakley Greens.

1799
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:56,599
Speaker 2: This is going to be happening on Sunday, and it's

1800
01:39:56,640 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 2: gonna go pretty much all day long, starting at ten

1801
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,560
Speaker 2: am all the way to three o'clock. Great place to

1802
01:40:01,640 --> 01:40:05,000
Speaker 2: post up, have lunch. A Noble Chicken is on site,

1803
01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,800
Speaker 2: get a cold one, maybe watch the Olympics or some

1804
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:10,920
Speaker 2: college basketball, and check out Liquid Sports Cards. We have

1805
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,639
Speaker 2: with this in studio from Liquid Sports Cards, our friend

1806
01:40:13,720 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 2: Jake Baker, and of course from Oakley Greens, our friend

1807
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,400
Speaker 2: Tory Meeker. Let's start with the lady first, Tory, how

1808
01:40:19,439 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 2: we doing and how you do mol I'm well, it's

1809
01:40:22,120 --> 01:40:24,400
Speaker 2: awesome to have you, Jake, welcome. Thanks for having me.

1810
01:40:25,160 --> 01:40:29,360
Speaker 2: Let's start by talking about Sunday, specifically liquid sports cards

1811
01:40:29,439 --> 01:40:32,000
Speaker 2: posting up at Oakley Greens all day long. What's going

1812
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:32,559
Speaker 2: to be happening.

1813
01:40:33,000 --> 01:40:36,760
Speaker 15: So we got forty tables, twenty five plus vendors who

1814
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:40,040
Speaker 15: are excited to be there, to connect with people coming

1815
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 15: into the hobby. You know, we're excited to be at

1816
01:40:42,880 --> 01:40:46,600
Speaker 15: the Oakley Greens venue. It's a great sports place. The

1817
01:40:47,080 --> 01:40:49,800
Speaker 15: venues just off the charts, and excited to have a

1818
01:40:49,880 --> 01:40:50,400
Speaker 15: packed house.

1819
01:40:51,000 --> 01:40:53,800
Speaker 2: Should be fun. This is a hobby that I think

1820
01:40:53,920 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 2: over the last what four or five years, has really

1821
01:40:57,000 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 2: taken off. I kind of feel like the pandemic is

1822
01:40:59,720 --> 01:41:01,599
Speaker 2: what triggered a lot of people to get into sports

1823
01:41:01,680 --> 01:41:03,599
Speaker 2: cards because they were stuck at home, they were cleaning

1824
01:41:03,640 --> 01:41:06,880
Speaker 2: out their addicts, cleaning out their basements, found their cards

1825
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:10,400
Speaker 2: and it's kind of like rekindled their interest in sports cards.

1826
01:41:10,439 --> 01:41:13,080
Speaker 15: And I would imagine you would concur that's exactly what

1827
01:41:13,160 --> 01:41:15,400
Speaker 15: happened to me. We were all in our basements trying

1828
01:41:15,439 --> 01:41:17,559
Speaker 15: to find something to do. While we were sitting at home,

1829
01:41:18,439 --> 01:41:21,919
Speaker 15: I found my old binder full of Corey Dyllon, Eddie George,

1830
01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:26,080
Speaker 15: a few too many Achille Smith cards and dove right

1831
01:41:26,160 --> 01:41:30,479
Speaker 15: back in. What's the Achille Smith card worth? The Achille

1832
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:34,680
Speaker 15: Smith card market pretty pretty poor. And the worst part

1833
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:37,479
Speaker 15: of it is, I was I was trading charizards back

1834
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,240
Speaker 15: in nineteen ninety eight, ninety nine for Achille Smith.

1835
01:41:41,680 --> 01:41:43,680
Speaker 2: I lost that one. I hear you, So all right,

1836
01:41:43,800 --> 01:41:46,479
Speaker 2: I showed. Do I show up with my old cards

1837
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,800
Speaker 2: and you'll tell me what they're worth? Do you buy them?

1838
01:41:48,960 --> 01:41:50,800
Speaker 2: Is just how's this going to work? Yeah?

1839
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,920
Speaker 15: So this we're marketing this as a card party. You know,

1840
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,760
Speaker 15: you have your traditional card shows. There are some great

1841
01:41:56,840 --> 01:42:00,200
Speaker 15: shows in the Cincinnati area, There's there's a big one

1842
01:42:00,280 --> 01:42:03,840
Speaker 15: in Nashville. There's there's card shows everywhere where. We're differentiating

1843
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 15: ourselves here is we've We've brought in great vendors. We've

1844
01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:09,559
Speaker 15: brought in people who are excited to work with folks

1845
01:42:09,640 --> 01:42:13,920
Speaker 15: and have conversations and really enjoy the hobby. So if

1846
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:16,479
Speaker 15: you have sports cards and you're interested in finding out

1847
01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:18,519
Speaker 15: what they're worth, definitely bring them to the show. You

1848
01:42:18,600 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 15: can do some trading and then we'll have vendors there.

1849
01:42:22,120 --> 01:42:26,040
Speaker 15: Forty tables all sports, a little bit of Pokemon, and

1850
01:42:26,200 --> 01:42:28,120
Speaker 15: you'll be able to shop and put your hands on

1851
01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:28,840
Speaker 15: some cards.

1852
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:31,439
Speaker 2: So it's not just baseball. Can you explain the Pokemon

1853
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:33,560
Speaker 2: thing to me? Nostalgia?

1854
01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 15: Yeah, I didn't play the I didn't play the card

1855
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:38,439
Speaker 15: game growing up, but I did do the Game Boy

1856
01:42:38,920 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 15: and you know I love Squirtle Squirrels. My guy got

1857
01:42:42,920 --> 01:42:44,680
Speaker 15: my kids into the original. I have no idea what

1858
01:42:44,760 --> 01:42:47,680
Speaker 15: you're talking about. No, I mean this is you might

1859
01:42:47,720 --> 01:42:49,840
Speaker 15: as well be putting like algebra on the board or

1860
01:42:49,840 --> 01:42:50,120
Speaker 15: something like.

1861
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:50,479
Speaker 4: That for me.

1862
01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:54,200
Speaker 15: And like logan, Paul just had that Pikachu sell for

1863
01:42:54,360 --> 01:42:55,599
Speaker 15: sixteen million dollars.

1864
01:42:55,720 --> 01:42:59,040
Speaker 2: Wait what Yeah, it just stew a Pokemon card for

1865
01:42:59,160 --> 01:43:02,519
Speaker 2: sixteen million dollar. Most expensive card sale ever, Mike. This

1866
01:43:02,640 --> 01:43:08,400
Speaker 2: happened on Sunday. Not quite that all right. So, whether

1867
01:43:08,439 --> 01:43:11,719
Speaker 2: you're a hardcore collector sort of just new to the hobby,

1868
01:43:12,280 --> 01:43:14,360
Speaker 2: or you know your collected cards as a kid, want

1869
01:43:14,400 --> 01:43:16,439
Speaker 2: to see what they're worth, you can stop by ten

1870
01:43:16,479 --> 01:43:18,800
Speaker 2: am all the way till three o'clock. Where do you

1871
01:43:18,800 --> 01:43:19,559
Speaker 2: get the vendors from.

1872
01:43:20,000 --> 01:43:20,080
Speaker 11: Uh?

1873
01:43:20,240 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 15: They are people who love to set up at card

1874
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:27,439
Speaker 15: shows and you'll have I have six or seven who

1875
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:30,120
Speaker 15: have never set up before this is the first time.

1876
01:43:30,680 --> 01:43:33,360
Speaker 15: It's a great environment for that and that just speaks

1877
01:43:33,400 --> 01:43:36,360
Speaker 15: to the openness of Hey, come in and ask questions

1878
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,839
Speaker 15: and be part of the hobby. And when Oakley Greens

1879
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:43,920
Speaker 15: wanted two work together, I toured the space and it

1880
01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,920
Speaker 15: was a no brainer. And you know, it's it's a

1881
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 15: great sports venue. You know, the weather will cooperate down

1882
01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 15: the road and we'll have the outside people opportunities as well.

1883
01:43:55,080 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 2: But it's exciting. Uh, let's talk about what's happening at

1884
01:43:58,360 --> 01:44:02,040
Speaker 2: Oakley Greens specifically, because because you have Tory Sunday, which

1885
01:44:02,120 --> 01:44:04,439
Speaker 2: is gonna be a lot of fun. And if again,

1886
01:44:04,479 --> 01:44:07,080
Speaker 2: if you're a hardcore collector, it's right up your alley.

1887
01:44:07,160 --> 01:44:09,240
Speaker 2: If you're just sort of new to it, if you

1888
01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: just want to check it out and uh, you know,

1889
01:44:11,880 --> 01:44:14,200
Speaker 2: see if maybe there's something for you, it's gonna be

1890
01:44:14,240 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 2: a lot of fun. But Oakley Greens has a lot

1891
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:18,040
Speaker 2: of stuff going on. Let's talk about Friday. You guys

1892
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:19,600
Speaker 2: have jumped on the Miami bandwagon.

1893
01:44:19,760 --> 01:44:22,960
Speaker 16: Well, the owner and myself are both alumni, so we're

1894
01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 16: pretty excited about the men's.

1895
01:44:24,240 --> 01:44:26,080
Speaker 2: Basketball team, right as you should be.

1896
01:44:26,479 --> 01:44:29,320
Speaker 16: We're gonna throw a big like unofficial Miami Reunion on

1897
01:44:29,439 --> 01:44:32,599
Speaker 16: Friday at the at Oakley Greens. We're bringing in Paul Auton.

1898
01:44:32,640 --> 01:44:34,599
Speaker 16: He's wow from way back in the day, back when

1899
01:44:34,640 --> 01:44:36,000
Speaker 16: I was there. I'm not gonna tell you where that

1900
01:44:36,120 --> 01:44:39,040
Speaker 16: was because that's embarrassing, but uh, bring back some old

1901
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,280
Speaker 16: school drinks and have some green beer, and then we're

1902
01:44:41,280 --> 01:44:43,040
Speaker 16: gonna watch the boys go undefeated.

1903
01:44:43,160 --> 01:44:45,479
Speaker 2: Wow, that's about you got five games to go. I know,

1904
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:47,960
Speaker 2: we're right excited, and it's it's fun to watch Miami.

1905
01:44:48,280 --> 01:44:51,639
Speaker 2: Miami's basketball team. When I was in college at Dayton

1906
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:55,679
Speaker 2: in the late nineties, Miami was always really good. Serbia Yeah,

1907
01:44:55,880 --> 01:44:58,479
Speaker 2: and then Wally left and then for you know, twenty

1908
01:44:58,520 --> 01:45:00,760
Speaker 2: five years, they haven't been good. So it's been fun.

1909
01:45:01,720 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 2: Last year was good, they were this close to making

1910
01:45:04,000 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 2: the tournament, made it in O seven. But to watch

1911
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:09,720
Speaker 2: the community, the Miami alumni community. I went to the

1912
01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:11,880
Speaker 2: game against UMass a few weeks ago, to see the

1913
01:45:11,960 --> 01:45:14,360
Speaker 2: campus come alive around basketball has been a lot of fun.

1914
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:16,400
Speaker 16: I think it's just Miami is very unique and we

1915
01:45:16,439 --> 01:45:18,720
Speaker 16: don't get a ton of these bright, flashing stars, right.

1916
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 16: We get good, solid teams like Rico Bloasi and the

1917
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:23,920
Speaker 16: boys were really fun to watch. Yeah, Like when we

1918
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Speaker 16: have a good run, the fans are the best.

1919
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Speaker 2: So we've got that. On Friday, you guys are on

1920
01:45:30,760 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 2: the Miami University train and it's fun because you think

1921
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:38,120
Speaker 2: about soccer starting. So FC Cincinnati on Saturday. Baseball is

1922
01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:40,320
Speaker 2: going to be here before you know it. March Madness

1923
01:45:41,000 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 2: lots going on, so good. Yeah, your team will be

1924
01:45:44,240 --> 01:45:46,800
Speaker 2: in March Madness. Mine we might be in the Crown

1925
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:50,519
Speaker 2: of the n I T or something. Be able to

1926
01:45:50,560 --> 01:45:53,080
Speaker 2: watch them at at Oakley Greens regardless of what event

1927
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,559
Speaker 2: they're in. Right, Yeah, what else do we What else

1928
01:45:56,680 --> 01:45:58,120
Speaker 2: is going on at Oakley Greens? So we need to

1929
01:45:58,200 --> 01:45:58,800
Speaker 2: know about.

1930
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Speaker 16: Yeah, we just got a new foo vendor.

1931
01:46:01,160 --> 01:46:02,960
Speaker 2: That's what I'm excited. Yeah, old Chicken.

1932
01:46:03,120 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 16: Yeah there, they quietly launched about a month ago. We're

1933
01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:10,280
Speaker 16: gonna throw a big party for him pretty soon. Yeah,

1934
01:46:10,280 --> 01:46:11,559
Speaker 16: we're just gearing up for the whole year. We got

1935
01:46:11,600 --> 01:46:13,800
Speaker 16: so much stuff coming at you, like car shows and

1936
01:46:14,160 --> 01:46:17,559
Speaker 16: motorcycle meetups and maybe some October Fest stuff.

1937
01:46:17,560 --> 01:46:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1938
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:19,599
Speaker 16: We're trying to go crazy this year.

1939
01:46:19,800 --> 01:46:23,000
Speaker 2: So Sunday is going to be huge. Let's talk about

1940
01:46:23,080 --> 01:46:25,120
Speaker 2: liquid cards. Give me the backstory.

1941
01:46:25,439 --> 01:46:25,880
Speaker 7: What is it?

1942
01:46:25,960 --> 01:46:27,160
Speaker 2: Where is it? What do you guys do?

1943
01:46:27,720 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 15: So I, as I mentioned, I got back into sports

1944
01:46:30,400 --> 01:46:36,400
Speaker 15: cards in twenty twenty and looked to to fill out

1945
01:46:36,400 --> 01:46:40,920
Speaker 15: a spot in the hobby where it was about enjoying

1946
01:46:41,000 --> 01:46:43,880
Speaker 15: sports cards, and so we opened about eighteen months ago.

1947
01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:49,639
Speaker 15: I've enjoyed meeting people coming through the door. It's been

1948
01:46:49,720 --> 01:46:53,679
Speaker 15: at home base. You know, you're looking for that third

1949
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:56,240
Speaker 15: spot to come in and have a have a friend.

1950
01:46:56,520 --> 01:46:58,800
Speaker 15: I've made more friends in the last eighteen months at

1951
01:46:58,840 --> 01:47:01,519
Speaker 15: the shop, and I may in the last ten years.

1952
01:47:01,760 --> 01:47:01,880
Speaker 5: You know.

1953
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:05,280
Speaker 15: It's just a lot of people who are passionate about sports.

1954
01:47:05,880 --> 01:47:08,760
Speaker 15: Parents coming in with their kids, grandparents coming in with

1955
01:47:08,840 --> 01:47:13,840
Speaker 15: their grandkids. And I'm next to an arcade legacy in Sharonville,

1956
01:47:14,040 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 15: so we're in Sharonville off of Sharon Road I seventy five.

1957
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,280
Speaker 15: So a nice cross pollination of people going in there,

1958
01:47:20,760 --> 01:47:24,040
Speaker 15: coming into my shop and just being a spot to

1959
01:47:24,160 --> 01:47:26,280
Speaker 15: enjoy the hobby. And it's exciting to get to do

1960
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:29,639
Speaker 15: the card show aspect of it because the card shows

1961
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:30,600
Speaker 15: are just different.

1962
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:32,519
Speaker 2: You know, it's it's a party.

1963
01:47:32,960 --> 01:47:35,920
Speaker 15: That's why That's why we've come at it with this angle,

1964
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:40,080
Speaker 15: is you can sit at home and do sports cards.

1965
01:47:40,360 --> 01:47:42,920
Speaker 15: You can buy on eBay, you can trade on Facebook,

1966
01:47:43,320 --> 01:47:46,720
Speaker 15: but there's nothing like meeting three four friends at the

1967
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:50,639
Speaker 15: card show, walking around to the forty tables, shaking hands

1968
01:47:50,960 --> 01:47:51,920
Speaker 15: and making trades.

1969
01:47:52,080 --> 01:47:55,640
Speaker 2: It brings back such memories. I'm older than you, but

1970
01:47:55,760 --> 01:47:57,600
Speaker 2: I you know, in the eighties, you would get the

1971
01:47:57,960 --> 01:48:00,519
Speaker 2: Beckett Baseball card model, yeah, which was like the Wall

1972
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:03,040
Speaker 2: Street Journal of baseball cards, and you would you would

1973
01:48:03,080 --> 01:48:05,080
Speaker 2: get it, and it was like, man, I got a

1974
01:48:05,160 --> 01:48:08,439
Speaker 2: Joe Carter card and what it's It's up five cents,

1975
01:48:08,520 --> 01:48:10,760
Speaker 2: It's worth fifteen cents. All right, I gotta hang onto that.

1976
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:14,040
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, Wait a minute, my my Wally Backman

1977
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:16,840
Speaker 2: cards down four cents. That's only worth seven cents. And

1978
01:48:16,920 --> 01:48:18,880
Speaker 2: so it brings back great memory. So I can bring

1979
01:48:19,000 --> 01:48:21,920
Speaker 2: like when I was a kid, I'd get the entire set, right,

1980
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:23,920
Speaker 2: I'd collapse. I would and like my dad and I

1981
01:48:24,000 --> 01:48:25,360
Speaker 2: were into this. It was like, you can't buy the

1982
01:48:25,400 --> 01:48:27,679
Speaker 2: whole set. You have to collect. You gotta buy packs.

1983
01:48:27,720 --> 01:48:30,720
Speaker 2: You gotta see all right, I'm Reggie Jackson away from

1984
01:48:30,800 --> 01:48:33,320
Speaker 2: having the entire Angels team. And you would do this

1985
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:34,800
Speaker 2: over the course of the year, and then I would

1986
01:48:34,840 --> 01:48:38,160
Speaker 2: take every team and saw them alphabetically starting with with

1987
01:48:38,360 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 2: A for A's or angels. It can these angels, I guess,

1988
01:48:41,640 --> 01:48:43,280
Speaker 2: and all the way down to the end of the alphabet.

1989
01:48:43,320 --> 01:48:45,600
Speaker 2: But then in every team it also had to be

1990
01:48:45,640 --> 01:48:47,960
Speaker 2: alphabetical order, so you know players starting with the last

1991
01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:49,840
Speaker 2: name A, and then you put them in binders. I

1992
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:52,320
Speaker 2: still have them. I still have them. So can I

1993
01:48:52,400 --> 01:48:54,599
Speaker 2: bring them on Sunday so I can have someone look

1994
01:48:54,600 --> 01:48:56,519
Speaker 2: at me and go, that's cool, you did this. It's

1995
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: cool You've kept him. They're worth nothing.

1996
01:48:58,920 --> 01:49:01,760
Speaker 15: I unfortunately have that conversation a couple of times a day,

1997
01:49:02,600 --> 01:49:05,719
Speaker 15: but as a as a card lover, I certainly appreciate

1998
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 15: getting to flip through those binders. Just yesterday I had

1999
01:49:09,640 --> 01:49:13,040
Speaker 15: a gentleman bring in a nineteen eighty seven Fleer basketball set,

2000
01:49:13,640 --> 01:49:17,360
Speaker 15: which was Jordan's second year. Yeah, you know that those

2001
01:49:17,439 --> 01:49:20,200
Speaker 15: cards in good condition, which these are worth two three

2002
01:49:20,240 --> 01:49:25,439
Speaker 15: thousand dollars, the Jordan rookies worth ten twelve fifteen thousand dollars.

2003
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:28,760
Speaker 15: That's the eighty six set. And then a couple hours later,

2004
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:34,680
Speaker 15: another gentleman brought through his old baseball cards the early seventies,

2005
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:39,400
Speaker 15: late sixties. A couple mantles, Willie Mays. So there's that

2006
01:49:39,520 --> 01:49:41,640
Speaker 15: side of it, and then there's the unfortunate side of

2007
01:49:42,120 --> 01:49:45,280
Speaker 15: nineteen eighty five to two thousand, you know, when the

2008
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:48,760
Speaker 15: printing machines didn't stop for the card manufacturers. You know,

2009
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 15: unfortunately the Barry Larkin rookie cards three to five dollars

2010
01:49:52,840 --> 01:49:54,599
Speaker 15: because there were so many of them, right, so many

2011
01:49:54,640 --> 01:49:56,760
Speaker 15: of them. The only one that really holds the test

2012
01:49:56,840 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 15: of time right now is the Griffy Upper Deck nineteen

2013
01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:03,080
Speaker 15: eighty nine. So uh, you know, that's that's the big

2014
01:50:03,160 --> 01:50:06,080
Speaker 15: one from that era. And I'm always happy to look

2015
01:50:06,120 --> 01:50:08,719
Speaker 15: through collections because they're they're in the nineties, they started

2016
01:50:08,840 --> 01:50:13,280
Speaker 15: numbering cards, they started having autographs, so there's a little

2017
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,320
Speaker 15: bit of variance there, but that late eighties, nineteen ninety

2018
01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:20,200
Speaker 15: ninety one, that's that's a more nostalgia than investments.

2019
01:50:20,320 --> 01:50:23,160
Speaker 2: So I loved Tony Gwinn as a kid, like my

2020
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:26,120
Speaker 2: guy rest in peace, Like love Tony Gwinn. So I

2021
01:50:26,240 --> 01:50:28,599
Speaker 2: remember getting his rookie card like in the late eighties,

2022
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,120
Speaker 2: and he had been in the league for a few years,

2023
01:50:30,680 --> 01:50:33,080
Speaker 2: and then someone telling me like, well, that's only the

2024
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:35,120
Speaker 2: tops rookie card, and I'm like what are you talking about?

2025
01:50:35,120 --> 01:50:37,000
Speaker 2: So we need the Fleer, need the don Ross, need

2026
01:50:37,080 --> 01:50:40,400
Speaker 2: the exactly the score, need the Bowman. And it's like, well,

2027
01:50:41,600 --> 01:50:43,040
Speaker 2: I'm not going to be able to get all those,

2028
01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:44,880
Speaker 2: you know, and I don't have any money. And it

2029
01:50:45,000 --> 01:50:47,200
Speaker 2: was like, well, so that rookie card is not worth

2030
01:50:47,240 --> 01:50:49,679
Speaker 2: as much because there's like nine Tony Gwinn rookie cards.

2031
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:53,840
Speaker 15: Yeah, there are, there were the I believe eighty three

2032
01:50:54,080 --> 01:50:56,599
Speaker 15: was this rookie year. Yeah, and there's the three main

2033
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,880
Speaker 15: rookie cards, and then there would be some offshoots perhaps right,

2034
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:04,400
Speaker 15: but the big time manufacturing, Yeah, it was the late eighties,

2035
01:51:04,479 --> 01:51:06,960
Speaker 15: early nineties. You had Leaf, you had wild Card, you

2036
01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:09,680
Speaker 15: had some different manufacturers come through, and then it just

2037
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:11,920
Speaker 15: it goes nuclear from there.

2038
01:51:12,520 --> 01:51:14,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to bring the binders on Sunday, please do

2039
01:51:15,200 --> 01:51:16,800
Speaker 2: just so it could be like an episode of Pawn

2040
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:18,759
Speaker 2: Stars where a guy walks in with like a musket.

2041
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:20,680
Speaker 2: He thinks it's worth like six million dollars and the

2042
01:51:20,760 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 2: dudes like, I don't know, I'll give you eight hundred

2043
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:25,439
Speaker 2: bucks for it, and it'll be on a micro level.

2044
01:51:25,479 --> 01:51:27,120
Speaker 2: But I just so you could look at me or

2045
01:51:27,160 --> 01:51:28,920
Speaker 2: one of the vendors could look at me and go, yeah,

2046
01:51:28,920 --> 01:51:30,840
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, that's worth four or five bucks

2047
01:51:31,120 --> 01:51:31,920
Speaker 2: that entire binder.

2048
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:32,280
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2049
01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,680
Speaker 15: Sometimes sometimes the pages and the binder are worth more

2050
01:51:35,720 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 15: than the cards, and that's a tough conversation to have,

2051
01:51:39,200 --> 01:51:43,840
Speaker 15: but how it goes. Sometimes Sunday the inaugural Cards show

2052
01:51:43,880 --> 01:51:46,400
Speaker 15: by Liquid Sports Cards at Oakley Greens. It starts at

2053
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:49,839
Speaker 15: ten o'clock in the morning, goes until three o'clock. Forty tables.

2054
01:51:49,920 --> 01:51:52,360
Speaker 2: By the way, if you mentioned ESPN, there's prizes, yes,

2055
01:51:52,439 --> 01:51:54,600
Speaker 2: all right, ESPN or ESPN fifteen thirty or.

2056
01:51:54,640 --> 01:52:01,080
Speaker 14: Both emailing, but they mentioned me double prizes.

2057
01:52:01,160 --> 01:52:03,800
Speaker 2: What if I show up and mentioned ESPN fifteen thirty

2058
01:52:03,920 --> 01:52:05,680
Speaker 2: zero prizes? What if?

2059
01:52:06,240 --> 01:52:06,360
Speaker 7: Right?

2060
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,280
Speaker 2: And this will be this will be the last Sunday

2061
01:52:09,560 --> 01:52:10,799
Speaker 2: of the month through August.

2062
01:52:11,240 --> 01:52:13,880
Speaker 15: If you can't make this one, definitely put this on

2063
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 15: your calendar and we'd love to have you come through.

2064
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:18,080
Speaker 2: So that would be like the twenty ninth of March

2065
01:52:18,120 --> 01:52:21,519
Speaker 2: would be the next one. So every month, last Sunday

2066
01:52:21,520 --> 01:52:23,360
Speaker 2: of the month, you guys will be there and this

2067
01:52:23,479 --> 01:52:26,280
Speaker 2: should be a lot of fun. And again Oakley Greens

2068
01:52:26,840 --> 01:52:29,880
Speaker 2: wide open space. It's awesome. In the summertime, we've had

2069
01:52:29,880 --> 01:52:31,680
Speaker 2: a taste of it this week with spring, and so

2070
01:52:32,200 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 2: I can't wait for warmer weather to get here. We

2071
01:52:34,439 --> 01:52:37,680
Speaker 2: broadcast from outside at at Oakley Greens for much of

2072
01:52:38,080 --> 01:52:40,759
Speaker 2: late last year and that was awesome. So weather's about

2073
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,719
Speaker 2: to turn. Oakley Greens is a great place to post

2074
01:52:42,840 --> 01:52:45,240
Speaker 2: up outside and it's going to be a lot of

2075
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:48,160
Speaker 2: fun on Sunday, ten am till three o'clock the inaugural

2076
01:52:48,280 --> 01:52:51,280
Speaker 2: card show by Liquid Sports Cards at Oakley Greens. Is

2077
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:52,599
Speaker 2: there anything I missed?

2078
01:52:53,160 --> 01:52:55,000
Speaker 16: Oh, we are featuring a special cocktail too.

2079
01:52:55,240 --> 01:52:56,280
Speaker 14: Oh I forgot about this.

2080
01:52:56,479 --> 01:52:58,240
Speaker 2: No, this is the most important part.

2081
01:52:58,360 --> 01:53:01,920
Speaker 16: Yeah, well it's super the it's a Captain Morgan base

2082
01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:04,120
Speaker 16: and every purchase of the cocktail you get a free

2083
01:53:04,200 --> 01:53:07,880
Speaker 16: pack of cards. Really yeah, so oh, maybe you'll find

2084
01:53:07,880 --> 01:53:11,840
Speaker 16: your next big Uh probably not, but maybe the next

2085
01:53:11,880 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 16: big card.

2086
01:53:12,680 --> 01:53:14,599
Speaker 2: When are they gonna put bubble gum back in the car?

2087
01:53:16,600 --> 01:53:16,800
Speaker 8: Never?

2088
01:53:17,080 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 15: Never, no, and don't and don't try, don't try to

2089
01:53:20,960 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 15: do it. I can confirm eating the old four decades

2090
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,320
Speaker 15: old gum it will not go well.

2091
01:53:25,439 --> 01:53:26,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could concur I could.

2092
01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:27,760
Speaker 13: Uh.

2093
01:53:28,120 --> 01:53:29,880
Speaker 2: I don't remember how I got a I got a

2094
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,200
Speaker 2: my hands on a pack of cards from like nineteen

2095
01:53:32,240 --> 01:53:34,280
Speaker 2: eighty six or eighty seven, a few years ago with

2096
01:53:34,400 --> 01:53:36,080
Speaker 2: a buddy of mine and we both tried the gum.

2097
01:53:36,360 --> 01:53:38,720
Speaker 15: That's a bad idea, terrible, a bad idea. It can't

2098
01:53:38,720 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 15: get it out of your mouth before it dissolved.

2099
01:53:40,400 --> 01:53:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that was rough. But you know what,

2100
01:53:42,080 --> 01:53:44,240
Speaker 2: I'll say this, and like the random cards I have

2101
01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:47,200
Speaker 2: from forty years ago, you could still smell the gum

2102
01:53:47,320 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 2: residue on them. That brings back memories, yes, as it does,

2103
01:53:50,640 --> 01:53:53,679
Speaker 2: all right. Oakley Greens Sunday, starting at ten am until

2104
01:53:53,720 --> 01:53:56,320
Speaker 2: three o'clock, the inaugural card show by Liquid Sports Cards.

2105
01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,120
Speaker 2: And again this is going to be happening the last

2106
01:53:58,200 --> 01:54:02,320
Speaker 2: Sunday of every month. So back again on March twenty ninth,

2107
01:54:02,360 --> 01:54:04,439
Speaker 2: and then all the way through August. It's awesome to

2108
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:06,880
Speaker 2: have you guys, Thanks so much, thank you. It's gonna

2109
01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:10,000
Speaker 2: be a fun event. Oakley Greens Sunday, starting at ten am.

2110
01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,320
Speaker 2: Hopefully we'll see you there. We're done tomorrow. In the show,

2111
01:54:13,720 --> 01:54:15,640
Speaker 2: Tommy Thrall, Voice of the Reds. We have him on

2112
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:18,600
Speaker 2: every year the day before the first Cactus League broadcast.

2113
01:54:19,000 --> 01:54:21,960
Speaker 2: I can't wait for Saturday to hear Tommy Thrall. Can't

2114
01:54:21,960 --> 01:54:25,040
Speaker 2: wait to talk to Tommy Thrall tomorrow. Plus, Nate Bukaty

2115
01:54:25,160 --> 01:54:27,200
Speaker 2: from an mL season pass is gonna join us and

2116
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,519
Speaker 2: in studio visit. He is in town to call the

2117
01:54:29,880 --> 01:54:33,320
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati game. We'll do some college basketball as well.

2118
01:54:34,640 --> 01:54:37,840
Speaker 2: We're done. Thanks for listening. Don't forget Tony Pike. Sincy

2119
01:54:37,880 --> 01:54:40,200
Speaker 2: three to sixty is tomorrow at noon. We are back

2120
01:54:40,240 --> 01:54:42,760
Speaker 2: tomorrow at three oh five. Have a great night. Thanks

2121
01:54:42,800 --> 01:54:45,360
Speaker 2: to Tarren Bland for producing, and we'll talk to you

2122
01:54:45,400 --> 01:54:48,200
Speaker 2: tomorrow on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports.

2123
01:54:47,880 --> 01:55:08,360
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Speaker 7: An accident at gelbra I at Ezelic with traffic