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Speaker 1: Corey de Angelus is with the American Culture Project. He's

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Speaker 1: I have a new column today in the Denver Gazette

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Speaker 1: schools and look, Denver Public Schools is in shambles. There's

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Speaker 1: This is not fun. Denver Public Schools is not in

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Speaker 1: I'm about to put it that way now. Earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: Colorado's largest school district sued for a nationwide injunction to

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Speaker 2: Why is this rapid more rapid decline happening? It due

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Speaker 1: American culture Project, The Parent Revolution. Check out his book.

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining and his brother. Happy

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Speaker 1: New Year, of course, and with this celebration of what's

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Speaker 3: Jimmy, thank thanks and good talking.

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Speaker 1: To you, you bet brother once again, Coriy Angelus joining us.

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Speaker 1: amateur metal detectorist, don't quit the hobby. Now why do

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Speaker 1: I say that so randomly? What metal detectorist? Don't quit

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Speaker 1: that hobby? Because an amateur metal detectorist discovered Roman cavalry swords,

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Speaker 1: which led archaeologists to uncover a two thousand year settlement

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Speaker 1: that included a villa and building remains. Guess what this

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Speaker 1: From foxnews dot Com. Archaeologists excavating a Pompeii site uncovered

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Speaker 1: the secret behind the longevity of ancient Roman structures, a

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Speaker 1: unique concrete mixture that could chemically repair itself over time.

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Speaker 1: A recent study, which was published in the journal Nature

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Speaker 1: Communications earlier in December, centered around a construction site that

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Speaker 1: was abandoned after the eruption of Mount Vesuvius. The construction

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Speaker 1: site was buried under volcanic ash, which preserved it for

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Speaker 1: nearly two thousand years. Archaeologists found rooms with unfinished walls,

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Speaker 1: piles of pre mixed dry building material, and weighing and

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Speaker 1: measuring tools for preparing concrete. Construction workers were building domestic rooms,

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Speaker 1: a bakery with ovens, grain washing basins, and storage facilities

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Speaker 1: when the volcano erupted. And here's the kicker. At the site,

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Speaker 1: researchers found that Romans used a specific method of developing durable,

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Speaker 1: self healing concrete, a substance that revolutionized architecture. And while

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Speaker 1: we always knew that the Romans had used concrete, the

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Speaker 1: specific method of concrete mixing had remained unknown until now.

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Speaker 1: It was a unique technique called hot mixing, in which

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Speaker 1: they added quick climb to water, volcanic rock, and ash,

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Speaker 1: triggering a chemical reaction that naturally heated the mixture. There's

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Speaker 1: a lot more to this story. It is fascinating. I

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Speaker 1: love ancient societies, ancient Rome, Go, Babylon and the rest,

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Speaker 1: and this is fascinating. It could revolutionize two thousand year

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Speaker 1: old technology could revolutionize how we do concrete today in

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Speaker 1: the modern world. Go figure, I'm Jimmy Sangenberger. Our number

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Speaker 1: one under wraps, our number two and three about to

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Speaker 1: be unwrapped on this Christmas Eve Eve show Jimmy and

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Speaker 1: for Michael Brown on KOA, Jimmy sangin Berger here with

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Speaker 1: you KOA filling in for Michael Brown, Mary Christmas Eve Eve.

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Speaker 1: Very glad to get the text saying Jimmy, I love

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Speaker 1: burl Ives, thank you for playing Holly, Jolly Christmas, Mary Christmas,

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Back and at you and everyone listening, whether

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Speaker 1: you celebrate Christmas or not.

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Speaker 4: It is thing.

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Speaker 1: So did you know that President Trump apparently has more

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Speaker 1: injunctions that have been leveled against him in federal court

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Speaker 1: than anybody else. He's admitted it himself and was astized

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Speaker 1: by Jen Saki on what is it? Aren't they ms

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Speaker 1: now now? Yeah, they are. They're no longer MSNBC. They

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Speaker 1: are ms now now Take a listen.

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Speaker 4: We've been hit with more nationwide injunctions than were issued

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Speaker 4: in the entire twentieth century together. Think of it, more

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Speaker 4: than the entire twentieth century.

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Speaker 1: Me yes, you.

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Speaker 6: The courts have had to stub you Donald Trump more

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Speaker 6: than any other president.

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Speaker 1: It's not the brag you think it is either, by

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Speaker 1: the way, Yeah, you know, it's a mixed bag to me.

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Speaker 1: Some of his injunctions are called for on big stuff.

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Speaker 1: Certainly the courts need to intervene. But look, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I talked about it earlier in the show. Judge Daniel Domenico,

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Speaker 1: in a case that Denver Public Schools brought against ICE

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Speaker 1: Enforcement Immigration Enforcement near Schools, said I'm not going to

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Speaker 1: issue a nationwide in junction because what's happening here in

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Speaker 1: Denver shouldn't I have no justification to make a declaration

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Speaker 1: about the entire country and how what's happening here that

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Speaker 1: Denver Public Schools couldn't really prove anyway, couldn't really couldn't

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Speaker 1: prove period, Denver Public Schools. If they couldn't show it,

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Speaker 1: then why should there be a nationwide injunction? There shouldn't be.

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Speaker 1: It's pretty crazy think about that happened, some of these

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Speaker 1: happening across the country, which is why the US Supreme

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Speaker 1: Court said no, lower courts can't do actual nationwide injunctions

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Speaker 1: on most things, so they've had to find some other

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Speaker 1: ways to go and so forth. But at the same time,

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Speaker 1: it's not something to brag about, per se. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't think so. Maybe you can brag though about

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Speaker 1: Trump Class battleships. You saw this that now there's these

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Speaker 1: ships that he wants to construct that will be the

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Speaker 1: most advanced, have all kinds of artillery. And because he's

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Speaker 1: really good with esthetics, that was his word, esthetics, he's

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Speaker 1: gonna help design the Trump Class battleships too. I don't

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Speaker 1: know about this. I mean, you got the Trump Kennedy Center.

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Speaker 1: Now you've got the from the US Institute of Peace

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Speaker 1: to the Trump Institute of Peace. You've got Trump Class battleships.

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Speaker 1: Is he's turning the White House and the presidential administration

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Speaker 1: into Oh great, I can name everything Trump, just like

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Speaker 1: he's done. I think he's been out of business for

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Speaker 1: so long that he wants to name things after him.

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Speaker 1: He's he's used to doing that. Wait a second, I

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Speaker 1: wonder if that's the case. And yeah, thank you, Shannon.

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Speaker 1: I'm getting word from Shannon Scott, producer Extraor and Air

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Speaker 1: that the man himself, President Donald J. Trump, is on

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Speaker 1: the line on this Christmas Eve Eve mister President, what

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Speaker 1: an honor to speak with you. It's been way too long.

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Speaker 4: Merry Christmas, Jimmy, Merry Christmas, was saying, Merry Christmas. Isn't

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00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 4: it great? We brought I brought back the merry Christmas time.

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Speaker 4: Happy Festivus too, in case you're interested. Is a good one,

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Speaker 4: Isn't that?

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Speaker 1: That's kind of a today the rest of us, isn't it.

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Speaker 5: It's the Festivus for the rest of us.

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Speaker 4: What's better than a steel pole? Let me tell you something, Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: I heard you, and I love your show. You're great,

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Speaker 4: You're great, You've got a new show. I'm a great job, Jimmy.

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Speaker 4: As we say, heck of a job, Jimmy. You know,

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Speaker 4: Michael Bro's gonna have some pretty look shoes to film

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Speaker 4: when he gets back.

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Speaker 5: Don't you a Greek?

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Speaker 4: I do? You were talking about these battleships, beautiful, big,

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Speaker 4: beautiful battleships, Trump class battleships. We're going to have Trump hats.

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Speaker 4: They're not going to be called Sela hats anymore. They're

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Speaker 4: going to be called Trump hats. Even down the Navy.

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Speaker 4: Now it's they're going to call they're not torpedoes anymore.

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Speaker 4: They're Trump beetles. It's great and we love it. And

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Speaker 4: so during the holidays, and this is very important. I

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Speaker 4: think it's when we all gather around the fire sun.

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Speaker 4: I let's all pray that my federal pardon of TENA.

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Speaker 4: Peters goes straight through fear that way.

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Speaker 1: Wait wait, wait, wait, mister president, I have a bit

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Speaker 1: of a bone to pick with you on that one.

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Speaker 1: You have no authority to declare a federal pardon for

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Speaker 1: state crimes, Sir, I don't know why you think you

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Speaker 1: can do that.

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Speaker 4: Just think about it, Jimmy, federal is better than state.

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Speaker 4: Name one person. I'll put it this federal boulevard. You know,

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Speaker 4: federal boulevard. Admit it is much more powerful than State

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Speaker 4: Street in Denver. Name one person who lives on State

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Speaker 4: Street in Denver. You can't, I didn't think so. Therefore,

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Speaker 4: federal law usurps the state governance. That's the word we like.

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Speaker 1: But mister President, even if you could pardon Tina Peters,

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Speaker 1: you said election crimes and her our election integrity and security.

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Speaker 1: But none of the crimes that she was found guilty

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Speaker 1: of for felonies have to deal with elections. So you

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Speaker 1: didn't even pardon her for the right things.

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Speaker 4: I'm pardoning her at Christmas? Is it a crime to

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Speaker 4: love too much? Jimmy, that's OUs.

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Speaker 5: Your dead to love too much?

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Speaker 4: You can't do much?

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Speaker 1: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And now my Tina, Tina. I love Tina. We love

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Speaker 4: to know. She's my favorite team that Dela Luis is

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Speaker 4: a close second. Remember that red hair one of gorgeous

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Speaker 4: I was more of a Ginger girl than Marianne. Really,

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Speaker 4: I mean, let's station. You know, Ginger was on with

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Speaker 4: those legs and Gilligan. I don't know whether he was thinking,

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Speaker 4: why didn't you where were we?

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Speaker 1: We were going to move on, mister President to something

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Speaker 1: else that is concerning to me is terriffs. I mean,

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Speaker 1: do we really need to have terriffs on every country

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Speaker 1: and have these trade wars, especially at Christmas time? And

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Speaker 1: the impact that that has on consumers.

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Speaker 4: For several centuries, our country has been getting the ryans

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Speaker 4: of the deal on these terraffs. I mean, the North

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Speaker 4: Pole has been very cool to a switch station. You know,

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Speaker 4: they come in the middle of the night. Did the

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Speaker 4: guy delivers this stuff? Nobody says anything. We're getting a

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Speaker 4: very bad deal here. I'm putting tariffs on all the gifts,

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Speaker 4: and I'm putting attacks on his slaves. His sleigh is

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Speaker 4: not much and I don't like that. You know, I'm

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Speaker 4: thinking of a Christmas list for him in case you're interested.

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Speaker 4: I heard you're going to have Chris Lingle on your

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Speaker 4: show later on.

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Speaker 1: I'm yes, Santa Claus will be joining us before we

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Speaker 1: get to your Christmas present wish list. Mister President Trump,

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Speaker 1: why are you tariffing the North Pole? Why won't that

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Speaker 1: make Santa's job more difficult?

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Speaker 4: I tried sanctions, and frankly, I'm not letting very many

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Speaker 4: people in from the North Fall at all. And him

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Speaker 4: flying over our airspace is very threatening to me. We've

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Speaker 4: got one of our genuine hot Rod Venezuela drones tracking

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Speaker 4: him this year. You know, he was suspected of doing

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Speaker 4: something up there, making mistletoe or something. And you know

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Speaker 4: he's part of his His very presence is part of

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Speaker 4: my wish west warm cause you're interested in that. But

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Speaker 4: we're caraffing him. I wanted to build a golf course there.

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Speaker 4: It wasn't very nice to me. I wanted to build

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Speaker 4: a huge, beautiful golf course at the Northbook, he said,

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Speaker 4: but it's darker winter long. We got big lights. We

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Speaker 4: got big not solar powered, but the ones with the generator.

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Speaker 4: We love him. That golf courses he said no, he

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Speaker 4: said right enough face, he said no, so not not

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Speaker 4: a very great guy to be honest with you. Are

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Speaker 4: you in some ways?

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Speaker 1: But mister president, are you? Are you worried? Are on

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Speaker 1: the naughty list?

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Speaker 7: Is that?

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Speaker 1: Is this sort of a little bit of a concern.

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Speaker 1: And if not, or if you can be put on

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Speaker 1: the nice list? What do you want for Christmas?

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Speaker 4: It's all a lie. That's big news. I've been on

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Speaker 4: the good list for forever. Nice list is my own base, really,

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Speaker 4: it really is. And people say, oh, mister president, what

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Speaker 4: if you want the naughty list? These tear us wrong.

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Speaker 4: Now I'm not afraid of anything.

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Speaker 5: I'm actually welcome.

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Speaker 4: We're well welcoming Santa Claus into our aerospace this time.

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Speaker 4: It's very generous of us. Don't you think this wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have happened under Biden? I wouldn't have had he wouldn't

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Speaker 4: have done anything. It would have been asleep in his

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Speaker 4: trundle bed. So it's okay, Joe, let the Shanna fly

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Speaker 4: right over your house, do nothing about it.

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Speaker 1: So what do you want for Christmas?

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Speaker 4: What do I want to quill? First of all, I'd

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Speaker 4: like a brand new golden golf cart with KFC available

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Speaker 4: at any moment, and also free Tina theaters. And also,

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Speaker 4: let's see what next up. I want Santa to shave

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Speaker 4: off his beard. It's disgusting. I don't need Jerry Garcia

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Speaker 4: delivering his hippie gifts to our children. Go with the big,

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Speaker 4: bushy mustache, Santa. Come on. It works for Magnum, it

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Speaker 4: worked for Tom Seliker's in the Handsome He's a handsome guy.

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Speaker 4: He's a conservative too, So save up the beard, get

635
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 4: rid of the beard, lose the beard, get a nice mustache.

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Speaker 4: Then those are my three wishes. I think I covered him.

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Speaker 1: There you go. We've just got a few minutes with you,

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Speaker 1: mister President, and we appreciate your time on this Christmas

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Speaker 1: Eve eve. Is there anything that you have on your

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Speaker 1: mind at Christmas time? Anything that you've been sort of

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Speaker 1: working through or pondering.

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Speaker 4: Well, last night I was visited by Well, I guess

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Speaker 4: he would be a ghost. Really he warned me about

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Speaker 4: there's going to be more ghost he's coming than me,

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Speaker 4: said he uh, Well, actually he was an ex President

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Speaker 4: who visited me. I know it sounds crazy, it sounds insane,

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Speaker 4: but he said, I'm the first Before I said, what

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Speaker 4: do you mean, mister President said, very soon, and probably

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Speaker 4: within the next couple of days, you will be visited

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Speaker 4: by three ghosts. Expect the first way, and then of

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Speaker 4: course the second and the third as well.

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan came and warned you that you were going

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Speaker 1: to be visited by three ghosts, the late.

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Speaker 4: Great Ronald Reagan. He said, I couldn't believe this. He said,

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Speaker 4: I don't know what's going on in the White House

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Speaker 4: these days, but I'm not very pleased. And I didn't

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Speaker 4: know what he meant.

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Speaker 1: Huh fascinating. So were you visited by any of the ghosts?

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Speaker 4: Yet? I was, and I'm still shaken by it. It

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Speaker 4: was pretty rough. This guy, he was the ghost of

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Speaker 4: Christmas past. And it turned out that it was the

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Speaker 4: late Great Richard Milhouse Nickson. He came to me and

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Speaker 4: he said, listen, dog, don't make the same mistakes that

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Speaker 4: I did. I was really I let them uncovered by secrets.

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Speaker 4: This you should never know, Never be petty, and never

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Speaker 4: hate because those who hate you can't win unless you

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Speaker 4: hate them. Just ask shut up. That's what he said.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what he meant.

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Speaker 1: I don't either. I I would. I would really consider

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Speaker 1: that though, if any such individual were to visit me.

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Speaker 1: So did the second ghost visit you as well? Last night?

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Speaker 4: You did? And that was Clinton. He said, come with me.

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Speaker 4: I got somebodys. We gotta go. It's not where you

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Speaker 4: think we're going to go to your We're gonna go

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Speaker 4: to Elon Musk South. He's poor now, he lost all

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Speaker 4: this money. We're gonna visit it. This is to work

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Speaker 4: for you, didn't you. I said, why are you doing here? Bill?

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Speaker 4: Shouldn't you be out partying? Here's let me I should

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Speaker 4: I'm taking a Christmas break, That's what he said to me.

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Speaker 4: I good confused with this. It's very shocking.

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Speaker 1: Taking a Christmas break?

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 1: And the third ghost, mister President, where you visited by

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Speaker 1: the final ghost that Ronald Reagan warned you about?

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Speaker 4: I did? Indeed, Jimmy, he came to me quickly. He

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Speaker 4: said it was somebody who's still alive. I couldn't believe

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Speaker 4: this guy, Yo, what are you doing being a ghost?

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Speaker 4: And it was Arnold Schwarzenegger at the future Is it

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Speaker 4: what you think You're going to wreck it? Keep de

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Speaker 4: land China. Let's understand the future is a mess, all

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Speaker 4: of it because of you. And I brought him to

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Speaker 4: get out of here. I called my security at called

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Speaker 4: the as you could service pulled him away. He's a

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Speaker 4: very strong guy, even his ghost is strong.

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Speaker 1: Well, mister President, it sounds like you had quite an

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Speaker 1: eventful night. Did it change your mind on anything?

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Speaker 4: Remind me of something with me?

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Speaker 1: Did being visited by these ghosts change your mind on anything?

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Speaker 4: It changed my mind about a lot.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: First of all, hairstyle Sannah not good. He wasn't involved

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Speaker 4: in this at all. And also I'm rethinking my terraf

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Speaker 4: on the North Fall after after speaking with you, Jimmy,

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking of change, quick change, quick change. Sanna's coming,

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Speaker 4: Shanna's coming. I'm very excited. Police navidad that's Spanish for

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Speaker 4: something about Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas.

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Speaker 4: Yes, carow on you poleastnob me Dodd. That's the story.

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Speaker 4: That's a different story, Police knob me DoD.

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Speaker 1: Mister President, do you have any final messages for the

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Speaker 1: American people listening to us this morning? Here on KOA.

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Speaker 4: I'm doing away traffic circles it's happening. It's happening, even

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Speaker 4: saying when he lands on the ground with dis Lake

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Speaker 4: with a little skeechos, a little of a bridge on

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Speaker 4: the roof, what do you think he's gonna do when

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Speaker 4: he comes to a traffic and we're going, he's gonna

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Speaker 4: go watch this? How do I get eight reindeer? Now? Ten?

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Speaker 4: Ten reindeer? Jimmy through this little loopy loop? Nope, not

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Speaker 4: turn not on my America. No thank you, no thank you.

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Speaker 1: You're going to get rid of traffic circles. That's the

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Speaker 1: big announcement today.

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Speaker 4: Also Apple Watch, Why do you insist Apple Watch on

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Speaker 4: telling me what time it is in Coopertino, California. I

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Speaker 4: don't care what no one does.

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Speaker 1: That's a very fair point, mister President. It has been.

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Speaker 1: It has been, President Trump, an honor and a privilege

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Speaker 1: to have you on the program today. What is your

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Speaker 1: Christmas wish? Before we let you go? For the American people?

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Speaker 1: What message.

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Speaker 4: For you? Jimmy? And you know I love your show.

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Speaker 4: I always have. I've been following you for close to

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Speaker 4: thirty years on your radio shows. Beautiful and the numbers

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Speaker 4: are looking good. They've increased eight hundred percent and this

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Speaker 4: is what I wish for you. You got. You're going

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Speaker 4: to own fifty whats Clear Channel station Kayaway by this

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Speaker 4: time next year. I will it.

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Speaker 1: You mean, iHeart mister President.

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Speaker 4: iHeartRadio. You think big. I like that. I like that,

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Speaker 4: not just gay Away, but the whole sheetang Lovely, Lovely Monopoly.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas, mister President. Thank you so much for joining us.

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Speaker 4: Happy New Year, and remember vote early and often.

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Speaker 1: That is advice you probably should not take. But we

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Speaker 1: appreciate the President of the United States joining us and

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Speaker 1: especially sharing with us about his experience last night being

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Speaker 1: visited by all those ghosts. I'm Jimmy Sangenberger in for

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Speaker 1: Michael Brown on KOA Keep It Here, Vana Masa bringing

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Speaker 1: us back with his cover of Elvis Presley's Santa Claus

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Speaker 1: is Back in Town, and I love it. It's a

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Speaker 1: great version. Once he starts getting off into the guitar solo,

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Speaker 1: which would be too long to listen for the bumper

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Speaker 1: to get to that point. Oh, it is excellent. Although

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Speaker 1: I do have to say, and we played this last

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Speaker 1: week Jimmy sang and Berger filling in for Michael Brown

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Speaker 1: or was it two weeks ago? Whenever I filled in

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Speaker 1: not this week we played my favorite Christmas song probably

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Speaker 1: and it's Johnny Lang's version of Santa Claus Is Back

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Speaker 1: in Town, which is different. It's slow, nice, bluesy, just fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Good to be with you, Merry Christmas, one and all

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Speaker 1: here on KOA, let's talk about the future of conservative

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Speaker 1: movement for a moment. By the way, I hope you

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Speaker 1: enjoyed the last say. We've been getting some good texts

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Speaker 1: from folks with the President Donald Trump obviously not. I mean,

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Speaker 1: how do you get in the same couple of minutes

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Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon and Bill Clinton and Arnold

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Speaker 1: Schwarzenegger plus Trump all together in the same couple of minutes,

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Speaker 1: and they're supposedly goes. This is probably not the real

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Speaker 1: Donald Trump, but so much fun. Mark Corgan is fantastic

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Speaker 1: as Trump, one of the best Trumps I know. So

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Speaker 1: when when we talk about the future of the conservative movement,

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Speaker 1: there are two things to consider. One we touched on

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Speaker 1: just a little bit yesterday, which is J d Vance.

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Speaker 1: Now jd Vance the Vice President of the United States,

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Speaker 1: the first millennial vice president of the United States. He

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Speaker 1: is in some respects a controversial figure in the sense

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Speaker 1: that he's much more of a big government conservative, is

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Speaker 1: far more willing to use the power of government to

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Speaker 1: achieve particular ends, which is why Rand Paul does not

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Speaker 1: believe he carries that banner. Just as we talked about yesterday,

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Speaker 1: I think there needs to be.

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Speaker 7: Representatives in the Republican Party who still believe international trade

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Speaker 7: is good, who still believe in free market capitalism, who

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Speaker 7: still believe in low taxes. So he used to separate

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Speaker 7: conservatives and liberals that conservatives thought it was a spending problem.

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Speaker 1: We didn't want more revenue, we wanted less spending.

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Speaker 7: But now all these pro ra protectionists they love taxes,

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Speaker 7: and so they tax tax, tax, and then they brag

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Speaker 7: about all the revenue coming in. That has never been

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Speaker 7: a conservative position. So I'm going to continue to try

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Speaker 7: to lead a conservative, free market wing of the party

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Speaker 7: and we'll see where things lead over time.

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Speaker 1: And that's not JD. Vance, no, flat out no. But

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Speaker 1: that has not stopped the machine that was built by

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Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk from supporting JD. Vance to be the next

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Speaker 1: president of the United States. Andrew Covet, one of the

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Speaker 1: leaders of Turning Point USA. Now since the assassination of Charlie.

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Speaker 1: Kirk had this to say during the Amfest conference over

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Speaker 1: the weekend.

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Speaker 8: We're all in behind Vice President JD.

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Speaker 3: Vance.

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Speaker 8: Charlie considered him a generational talent and somebody that could

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Speaker 8: lead this nation forward. We're very happy for the here

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Speaker 8: and now, so we're going to kind of let the

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Speaker 8: next year play out, but heading into twenty twenty eight

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Speaker 8: where we're excited to get behind him and the machine

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Speaker 8: that Charlie builton that's still a place, a turning point,

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Speaker 8: is going to be all in.

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Speaker 4: For the vice president.

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Speaker 1: It's huge. I want to get too. So they're already

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Speaker 1: they're playing their favorites. They're saying, oh, we're ready to

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Speaker 1: get behind Jdvans. It's really interesting. We're in the first

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Speaker 1: year of his vice presidency and they've already said the

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Speaker 1: machine that Charlie built is going to throw at support

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Speaker 1: and wait behind JD. Vans. Now, I don't like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't like christening somebody as the next guy when

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Speaker 1: there are plenty of options. And quite honestly, there's a

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Speaker 1: lot that I like about Jdvans. I think he's a

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Speaker 1: good person. I think he's a good father. I think

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Speaker 1: he has a lot to bring as far as the

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Speaker 1: ability to communicate on issues very effectively, and when he

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Speaker 1: talks about things that are principled and eternal values of

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Speaker 1: the country. I love to hear that he's one of

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Speaker 1: the great spokespeople. But when he talks about policies that

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Speaker 1: are not positive or beneficial, when he dabbles into areas

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Speaker 1: that are much more about big government and so forth,

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Speaker 1: that's where I go. I hope there are other options.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of JD. Vance to be the

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Speaker 1: next president of the United States. I love the idea

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Speaker 1: of the first millennial vice president, being a millennial myself,

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Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean anything, because it doesn't matter if

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Speaker 1: you have the first whatever president. What matters most is

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Speaker 1: that that person is the person who is meant to

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Speaker 1: do the job personally. I don't think that is J. D.

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Speaker 1: Vance now speaking of the future of the conservative movement.

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Speaker 1: Over the summer, in July, we tragically lost ed Faulner,

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Speaker 1: doctor ed Edwin J. Faulner, who was a graduate of

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Speaker 1: Regis University at the time, it was Regis College his

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Speaker 1: alma mater, my alma mater. He was a life member

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Speaker 1: of Regis's Board of trustees and the longest serving president

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Speaker 1: of the Heritage Foundation and founder co founder of the

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Speaker 1: Heritage Foundation. One of the most influential conservatives ever to

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Speaker 1: be in the public sphere and debate, and his influence

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Speaker 1: on the Reagan administration was tremendous, and he helped build

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation into being the foremost conservative think tank

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Speaker 1: in the country and reshaping how we would look at

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Speaker 1: think tanks and what they could do in the public policy,

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Speaker 1: education for the public and so forth, and the important

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Speaker 1: role that they play. Well. Unfortunately, the Heritage Foundation, I

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Speaker 1: think the editorial for the Wall Street Journal captures it right.

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Speaker 1: The Heritage Foundation blows up. Ross talked a bit about

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Speaker 1: this at the end of his show earlier. He's right

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Speaker 1: the Heritage Foundation well. Kevin Roberts, the president of Heritage,

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Speaker 1: a couple of months back, went out on a limb

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Speaker 1: to defend Tucker Carlson after Carlson interviewed neo Nazi Nick Flentes.

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Speaker 1: Not hyperbole, not political terminology. Puentes is that neo Nazi

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Speaker 1: terrible human being, and Tucker Carlson didn't just interview him,

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Speaker 1: he gave a softball ast. Heck, interview didn't press him

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Speaker 1: on anything. He's just asking questions, didn't press him on anything. Well,

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Speaker 1: Sangenberger here with you and for Michael Brown, We'll pick

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Speaker 1: you at least admit that tariffs are a good tool

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Speaker 1: to force free trade with countries that don't allow free trade.

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Speaker 1: Reciprocal tariffs work to ultimately eliminate tariffs in both directions,

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Speaker 1: as well as to punish those countries that cheap.

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Speaker 1: I will not admit that because it's not true. Please

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Speaker 1: cite me an example. Give me a specific example of

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Speaker 1: where we didn't have free trade with the country and

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Speaker 1: first term. I think the USMCA is worse than NAFTA.

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Speaker 1: I don't see actual free trade improvements when it comes

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Speaker 1: seeing the administration even tariff countries where we don't have

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Speaker 1: a trade deficit with them, or when we have tariffs,

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Speaker 1: the basis is a supposed trade deficit, but that doesn't

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Speaker 1: account for of different factors in trade. Or maybe it's

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Speaker 1: oh well, this is for fentanyl, or maybe it's oh well,

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Speaker 1: they're doing the wrong thing politically in Brazil and doing

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Speaker 1: terraffs on it, slap terr sonic. I'm sorry. I don't

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Speaker 1: trust this administration to even identify what an example of

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Speaker 1: we've gotten some sort of an actual free trade benefit

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Speaker 1: by reducing tariff and non tariff barriers. So no, I

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Speaker 1: won't concede that because I don't believe that it is true. Now,

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Speaker 1: we have a mindset in government, in politics, and particularly

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Speaker 1: in economics on a variety of things, but trade is

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Speaker 1: a prime example of a zero sum mindset. There's an

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Speaker 1: interesting piece by Rayner Zeidelmann at realclearmarkets dot com German

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Speaker 1: historian sociologist, author of many books including How Nations Escape Poverty,

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Speaker 1: The Power of Capitalism, and Hitler's National Socialism. Entitled The

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Speaker 1: Feeran and Friedrich M. Gotts from Stanford University and the

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Speaker 1: University of Cambridge have published an important article entitled the

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Speaker 1: success in which another person's success automatically comes at your expense,

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Speaker 1: and your failure is their success. Such situations do exist

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Speaker 1: in life. A tennis match is one example. If you win,

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Speaker 1: the other person must lose. However, there are numerous other

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Speaker 1: situations where both sides win, such as the voluntary exchange

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Speaker 1: of goods i e. Trade Fear in engots show that

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Speaker 1: the people with a zero sum mindset fundamentally interpret situations

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Speaker 1: as zero sum games, even if they are not in reality.

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Speaker 1: This has serious implications because zero sum thinkers base their

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Speaker 1: behavior on this assumption. Protectionist policies such as their those

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Speaker 1: pursued by Donald Trump are an example of this. Anti

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Speaker 1: capitalists believe economics is a zero sum game. Urgeld Breckt

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Speaker 1: classically formulated this thinking in his poem Alphabet, in which

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Speaker 1: said the poor man with a twitch. Were I not poor,

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Speaker 1: you wouldn't be rich. This is how anti capitalists envision

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Speaker 1: share with the impoverished. From their viewpoint, the fact that

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Speaker 1: in earlier societies, wealth was often based on robbery. Some

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Speaker 1: people enriched themselves at the expense of others. In contrast,

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Speaker 1: the market system operates on a different principle. Those who

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Speaker 1: effectively meet the needs of a large number of consumers

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Speaker 1: I'll read one other passage from this piece by Reiner

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Speaker 1: Zeitelman at realclearmarkets dot com. The misconception of a zero

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Speaker 1: sum economy is debunked by analyzing the development of the

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Speaker 1: number of rich and poor people over recent decades. Prior

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Speaker 1: population lived in extreme poverty. In eighteen twenty, the rate

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Speaker 1: a number that would be even lower six point five

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Speaker 1: percent if the World Bank did not recently adjust its

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Speaker 1: calculation method. And then it goes on to socialist plan economies,

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Speaker 1: zero sum mindset is wrong. Adam Smith recognized that trade

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Speaker 1: is not a zero some game because specialization and the

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Speaker 1: division of labor enhance overall production and goes on this

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Speaker 1: piece realclearmarkets dot com. The zero sum mindset will get

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Speaker 1: you nowhere. Unfortunately, there is a belief that trade is

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Speaker 1: zero sum. You win, we lose. That is not the case.

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Speaker 1: Trade is among individuals and businesses. The United States does

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Speaker 1: not actually trade with China. Businesses and individuals engage in

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Speaker 1: trade with China, and they happen to be American people

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Speaker 1: and American companies trading with not even China, with Chinese

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Speaker 1: companies or companies in China or Taiwan or Vietnam, or

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Speaker 1: England or France or you name it, and yet somehow

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Speaker 1: we have this, we have this coalescence idea of trade

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Speaker 1: is not just a zero some game, but it's because

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Speaker 1: countries are trading. This is a leftist mindset and I

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Speaker 1: can't get behind it.

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Speaker 4: It is so.

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Speaker 1: It is so astonishing to me that we have this,

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Speaker 1: this not just zero some mindset, but this belief that

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Speaker 1: it is country versus country. That is not what's happening

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Speaker 1: with trade. Unfortunately, here we are one more time because

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Speaker 1: I'm being asked the zero some mindset will get you nowhere.

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Speaker 1: Reiner's Idelman at Realclear Markets dot Com yesterday you'll want

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Speaker 1: to go to Tuesday on there, fascinating piece. I'm Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Sangenberger filling in for Michael Brown. We've got more coming

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Speaker 1: up on koa well known We've got the best Christmas

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Speaker 1: bumper music known to man because Jimmy Sangenberger is in

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Speaker 1: the house filling in for Michael Brown. So glad to

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Speaker 1: be with you. Santa Claus coming up in just a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Where get his reaction to the news from

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Speaker 1: earlier when Donald Trump the Donald Trump, Yes, the real real, No,

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Speaker 1: it was real, I know, but uh, President Trump and

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Speaker 1: his declaration that he's some news about the tariffs on

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Speaker 1: in our discussion on some Christmas shenanigans with Santa Claus.

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Speaker 1: This is it's really interesting the inquiries about the article

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Speaker 1: that I was sharing on realclearmarkets dot com from yesterday.

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Speaker 1: The zero sum mindset will get you nowhere. Rainer Zeidelman

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Speaker 1: currently in a debate with family member on his support

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Speaker 1: of Trump's tariffs. I'd like to send out the article

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Speaker 1: on trade as a zero sum game. Could you repeat

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Speaker 1: the article source well, and Merry Christmas. I appreciated Merry

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Speaker 1: Christmas to YouTube, but that's so interesting now. I did

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Speaker 1: countries ours included. I'm not saying that there aren't legitimate

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Speaker 1: grievances to be addressed on a trading standpoint, but by

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01:11:26,479 --> 01:11:31,000
Speaker 1: the way, there are systems in place that the record

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01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:35,799
Speaker 1: actually shows. China generally follows through the World Trade Organization

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01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:40,200
Speaker 1: when you file disputes, because that's the system that's created

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01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:45,960
Speaker 1: for specific claims of impropriety by a country when it

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01:11:46,040 --> 01:11:50,200
Speaker 1: comes to trade. Because you're right, yes there is IP theft,

1075
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,519
Speaker 1: there are things that need to be addressed with China.

1076
01:11:53,439 --> 01:11:56,400
Speaker 1: But does that mean that you just slap universal tariffs

1077
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,400
Speaker 1: that hurt Americans? I mean, why the hell are we

1078
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:05,400
Speaker 1: spending twelve billion dollars paying farmers because the Chinese market

1079
01:12:05,439 --> 01:12:11,240
Speaker 1: has been cut out from them? And this is what

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01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:14,040
Speaker 1: Trump has decided to do, kind of like FDR during

1081
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: the Great Depression was like, oh, we have all these

1082
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:20,880
Speaker 1: crop yields, so we're gonna just pay you not to

1083
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: farm or to throw away your crop yields is ridiculous

1084
01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:32,800
Speaker 1: a repeat in that respect. I just I think it's

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01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,560
Speaker 1: this approach is not the right approach to China. What

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01:12:35,640 --> 01:12:38,240
Speaker 1: should we do? Well, that's a discussion for another time.

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01:12:39,200 --> 01:12:42,160
Speaker 1: I'm Jimmy Saying Berger filling in for Michael Brown Christmas fun.

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01:12:42,360 --> 01:12:47,479
Speaker 1: On the other side, it's koa Mary Christmas and I

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01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:50,760
Speaker 1: had to do that. That was just I think the

1090
01:12:50,920 --> 01:12:55,479
Speaker 1: perfect lead in Bumper to our very special guests. You know,

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01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:58,519
Speaker 1: I'm sometimes as Chris Kringle. Most people think of him

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01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:03,559
Speaker 1: as Santa Claus. You may look at Father Christmas. Though

1093
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:07,560
Speaker 1: many names, but he is always the guy coming on

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:13,040
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve down the chimneys across the world, leaving presents

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01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:15,479
Speaker 1: for the good girls and boys. Please allow me to

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01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:20,000
Speaker 1: welcome to Koa, back to Kowa, mister Santa Claus.

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01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 5: Oh is that you, Jimmy Burger?

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01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,240
Speaker 1: Yes, it is Santa. How are you? Merry Christmas?

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01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,479
Speaker 5: Well, Merry Christmas to all of you and yours. Hey,

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01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:39,680
Speaker 5: I understand that this year there's a little extra in

1101
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,240
Speaker 5: the stalking over at the Sangenburger House, if you know

1102
01:13:42,280 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 5: what I mean.

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01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. I appreciate it, Thank you,

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01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:50,200
Speaker 1: Thank you, sir. H So, Merry Christmas. How you feeling

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01:13:50,680 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: Christmas Eve is tomorrow? What's shaken?

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01:13:55,520 --> 01:13:59,880
Speaker 5: Well, I'm just excited to have good weather around the globe.

1107
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,400
Speaker 5: Uh you know Riddy of Riddy of Flile. Did I

1108
01:14:04,520 --> 01:14:10,880
Speaker 5: got you know, twenty eight hours or so to make

1109
01:14:10,960 --> 01:14:14,160
Speaker 5: all those deliveries? And uh it usually works out pretty well.

1110
01:14:14,280 --> 01:14:16,760
Speaker 5: I mean, uh, I have a little trouble flying over

1111
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:20,519
Speaker 5: the rockies, but other than that, it's smooth saling. I promise,

1112
01:14:20,960 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 5: oh boy, for Christmas this year.

1113
01:14:24,200 --> 01:14:26,679
Speaker 1: I have to ask you, since I've got you directly.

1114
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: Am I on the nice list?

1115
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:30,439
Speaker 4: Well?

1116
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, no as I. Uh, it's it's come to it

1117
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:37,680
Speaker 5: says right here on the nice list. Who's uh, who's Victoria?

1118
01:14:38,200 --> 01:14:40,840
Speaker 5: She's on the nice list too, right, it's got a

1119
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 5: little asterisk. Yes, gratulations Jimmy, congratulations.

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01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 1: Yes we are engauged. Why thank you. I hope Leland

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01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:56,800
Speaker 1: her Son is on the nice list as well this Christmas.

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01:14:58,040 --> 01:15:02,800
Speaker 5: The whole family. Oh boy, I'm excited. No, I can Uh,

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01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 5: I could still get down that chimney. Uh, it's not

1124
01:15:06,520 --> 01:15:09,080
Speaker 5: gonna be a problem, is it. You open the flood

1125
01:15:09,120 --> 01:15:10,679
Speaker 5: this time? Last time I had to knock.

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01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:11,240
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,639
Speaker 1: Oh yes, you always have the way to get into

1128
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:17,599
Speaker 1: any home, whether it has a chimney or not, don't you, Senta.

1129
01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, well it's kind of a gift. I'm not going

1130
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,320
Speaker 5: to Divos committee of my secrets. Let's just Sawyer, it's

1131
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:25,799
Speaker 5: a little Christmas magic.

1132
01:15:26,960 --> 01:15:31,560
Speaker 1: Christmas magic is all you need, that's for sure. You

1133
01:15:31,640 --> 01:15:34,519
Speaker 1: know I haven't sent you a Christmas list. I'm sure

1134
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:37,719
Speaker 1: you've got some ideas for things to bring to yours truly.

1135
01:15:38,920 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 5: Well, you know you you have been a good boy

1136
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:46,880
Speaker 5: this year, right, I think so? Uh, Well, what do

1137
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 5: you want. Do you want another harmonica? I can bring

1138
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:51,280
Speaker 5: you a harmonica, Sana, I have.

1139
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:54,439
Speaker 1: I have so many harmonicas. I mean, it's like if

1140
01:15:54,479 --> 01:15:56,280
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to get the gig for the Jimmy

1141
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:59,559
Speaker 1: Junior Blues Band with five hundred harmonicas, I don't think

1142
01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get it with five hundred one. So I

1143
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:02,439
Speaker 1: think I'm good on.

1144
01:16:02,560 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 4: That, all right. Accord You know, yesterday we had.

1145
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:16,120
Speaker 1: A listener who did a talkback that had him playing

1146
01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:21,080
Speaker 1: a Christmas tune on accordion and it was amazing.

1147
01:16:23,000 --> 01:16:28,439
Speaker 5: Well, it's it's quite the instrument that in. Uh, I'll

1148
01:16:28,439 --> 01:16:31,640
Speaker 5: tell you what. Let's give you another instrument. How about bagpipes?

1149
01:16:32,600 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 1: Oh boy? And Mandy Connor would hate you with that

1150
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:41,400
Speaker 1: because she's just like just we were talking about bagpipes

1151
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 1: last week and yeah, I don't know, I don't know

1152
01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 1: that that would would would go over well here now here,

1153
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:53,760
Speaker 1: Santa I. We do have some breaking news. My understanding

1154
01:16:54,520 --> 01:16:58,160
Speaker 1: is that there has been an ELF strike going on

1155
01:16:58,520 --> 01:17:04,040
Speaker 1: and there's been a resolution to the strike. Is that true.

1156
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:04,479
Speaker 9: I don't.

1157
01:17:04,600 --> 01:17:07,320
Speaker 5: I don't want all the boys and girls around around

1158
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:10,639
Speaker 5: the world and all the listeners to to be concerned

1159
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:15,040
Speaker 5: about that. We we've resolved the strike. I think it's

1160
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:18,760
Speaker 5: over and we're back on schedule now.

1161
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:22,360
Speaker 1: Now, was there anybody in particular who broker the deal

1162
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:24,080
Speaker 1: to end the strike?

1163
01:17:25,439 --> 01:17:25,639
Speaker 4: Oh?

1164
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, of course. Uh well, I'm uh, I'm not

1165
01:17:29,560 --> 01:17:32,720
Speaker 5: gonna I'm not a name dropper or anything, but he

1166
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 5: happens to be a certain individual who has the word

1167
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 5: oh motus after his name. Let's just put it that way.

1168
01:17:42,920 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: Oh, President Trump negotiated this deal, you know what I'm told.

1169
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 1: Hold on one second, Sannah that we have on the line,

1170
01:17:52,040 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 1: mister Stanley twinkle Flake, one of your elves. Stanley. Welcome

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01:17:56,080 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 1: to KOA.

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01:17:59,200 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 9: Ankers Local number seven. Stanley twinkle Flike.

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01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: Here, Stanley. Good to have you, sir. Thanks so much

1174
01:18:07,080 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: for for joining the program. Talk to us, Yes, sure, yeah,

1175
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:11,559
Speaker 1: I'll talk to us.

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01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 9: It's my pleasure, Jamie. I haven't talked to you since

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01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 9: last year when we uh we had that brief, uh

1178
01:18:18,680 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 9: you know, air traffic controller in the North Pole walk

1179
01:18:21,960 --> 01:18:24,600
Speaker 9: out and uh you know that guy resolved too, and

1180
01:18:24,800 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 9: so yeah, it's been it's been great so far, no

1181
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:31,960
Speaker 9: problem and uh boy, go ahead, go ahead.

1182
01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:32,400
Speaker 4: I'm sorry.

1183
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:35,600
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say my understanding from Santa is

1184
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 1: that President Trump negotiated the end to this strike. How

1185
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,360
Speaker 1: about that resolution? What do you make of it?

1186
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:46,120
Speaker 5: He did, he did, he he showed up and he

1187
01:18:46,280 --> 01:18:48,439
Speaker 5: was he was tough. I'll tell you he was tough.

1188
01:18:48,520 --> 01:18:49,719
Speaker 9: But but Herman's fair.

1189
01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:53,640
Speaker 5: But Herman fair. I uh, I really I think he.

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01:18:54,000 --> 01:18:56,240
Speaker 1: I think he deserves the Peace Prize, you mean the

1191
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:57,280
Speaker 1: Nobel Peace Prize.

1192
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:01,160
Speaker 5: No, no here here we call with a Noel Peace

1193
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,040
Speaker 5: on Earth price.

1194
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: Oh okay, that makes sense. Is there anything that you

1195
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:09,679
Speaker 1: the elves are gaining from this resolution that allows Christmas

1196
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:10,920
Speaker 1: to go on without a hitch?

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01:19:12,439 --> 01:19:15,240
Speaker 9: Well, we did get the resolution pass for more subsidies

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01:19:15,320 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 9: for elfcare and that was very important. Our our families

1199
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:22,120
Speaker 9: are getting bigger and uh, you know, despite what people

1200
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 9: stage getting colder up here in the in the North Pole,

1201
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 9: and so elfcare is very very important. Oh and also

1202
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:35,519
Speaker 9: we got our we got our ebt uh reinstated, you

1203
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 9: know else benefit.

1204
01:19:37,080 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: You know that sounds exciting, very good news. Stanley twinkle Flake,

1205
01:19:41,479 --> 01:19:43,680
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us. Ll let's get

1206
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:47,920
Speaker 1: back to a Santa Claus up. There has been some

1207
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: fun at Christmas time always, and a lot of times Santa,

1208
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:56,280
Speaker 1: you'd like to quiz me on Christmas facts, So I

1209
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,599
Speaker 1: want to tell you, Santa, I am ready.

1210
01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:04,439
Speaker 5: Well, Jimmy, oh, let's let's see. Oh well, I got

1211
01:20:04,479 --> 01:20:08,560
Speaker 5: a good one here. Okay, Uh, for everybody listening, for

1212
01:20:08,840 --> 01:20:11,120
Speaker 5: for all the little boys and girls, they probably know this,

1213
01:20:11,320 --> 01:20:13,920
Speaker 5: and I don't know if you know this. What is

1214
01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:15,120
Speaker 5: Frosty's nose?

1215
01:20:15,479 --> 01:20:15,599
Speaker 4: Oh?

1216
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 1: Come on that that's that? That that's a carrot?

1217
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:18,760
Speaker 4: Right?

1218
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:24,080
Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, oh, you've got one wrong already. Okay,

1219
01:20:24,600 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 5: it's uh, let's sing the song with the corn cob

1220
01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:29,160
Speaker 5: pipe hana?

1221
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 1: Oh a button nose?

1222
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:32,760
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1223
01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 5: But what are his eyes made out of.

1224
01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 1: Coal?

1225
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,240
Speaker 5: Yeah? And those eyes made out of coal? Yeah, everybody

1226
01:20:40,280 --> 01:20:41,519
Speaker 5: gets that one wrong. Don't worry.

1227
01:20:42,520 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: What's your next question? Sannah?

1228
01:20:44,920 --> 01:20:49,679
Speaker 5: Okay, okay. In the song jingle bells bu boom boom boom,

1229
01:20:50,120 --> 01:20:53,160
Speaker 5: you know the words, what is the name of the horse?

1230
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,599
Speaker 1: Oh? Come on, well, that's it's jingle.

1231
01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:01,200
Speaker 5: No, no, it's not jingle, it's it's well, let's sing

1232
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 5: that song again. Hells on bobtail bob tails made makee

1233
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:12,799
Speaker 5: king spear or rain make king spearit's raw quote quoted

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01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:16,960
Speaker 5: you know, yeah, it's bob tail, but fun pact. That's

1235
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:20,840
Speaker 5: also the kind of horse. It's the name of the horse,

1236
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,439
Speaker 5: and it takes a special uh saddle rig on there,

1237
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:30,000
Speaker 5: just like the reindeer. Uh that's designed specifically for bobtails.

1238
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:37,839
Speaker 1: Interesting. Interesting, next question, Stanna, Okay, what is a bumble?

1239
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:38,200
Speaker 9: Now?

1240
01:21:38,240 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 1: This one I know because I've watched Rudolph so many

1241
01:21:42,320 --> 01:21:47,560
Speaker 1: times and the story is one of my favorites. It

1242
01:21:47,720 --> 01:21:49,120
Speaker 1: is the abominable snow monster.

1243
01:21:49,640 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 5: Good good, good, you're you're you're doing good most people.

1244
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 5: Most people don't know that, They just know him, know

1245
01:21:56,800 --> 01:22:02,280
Speaker 5: him as abominable and uh yeah, but good friend Yukon Cornelius,

1246
01:22:02,880 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 5: how's about bumble or as you recall, he says, because

1247
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:13,720
Speaker 5: bumbles tell you called He's quite a character. Okay from

1248
01:22:13,960 --> 01:22:18,800
Speaker 5: pronoun Since you know it so well, what is Rudolph's

1249
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:19,960
Speaker 5: girlfriend's name?

1250
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:23,080
Speaker 1: She was so nice to him?

1251
01:22:24,720 --> 01:22:28,840
Speaker 5: Right, exactly exactly And if you have if you have

1252
01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 5: a hard time remembering that, you can always remember the

1253
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 5: silence of the lamps. No, I'm just kidnapped. Her name

1254
01:22:38,000 --> 01:22:40,799
Speaker 5: was Clari's too, but I don't want you to envision,

1255
01:22:41,160 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 5: you know.

1256
01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:44,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, there we go that man. Let's just move on

1257
01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:45,519
Speaker 1: to the next question.

1258
01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 5: Please, Okay, Now here's the stumper. This one always gets them.

1259
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 5: How many reindeer are there? You count them off?

1260
01:22:55,240 --> 01:22:59,920
Speaker 1: There are a nine dasher, dancer, Prancer, Vic's a comic cube,

1261
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:02,439
Speaker 1: Donner Blitzen, and of course Rudolph.

1262
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 5: Well, actually there's eleven. There's eleven uh and if you

1263
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,479
Speaker 5: sing the song, it says all of the uh the

1264
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 5: reindeers right right, and then of course towards you end

1265
01:23:17,560 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 5: of the song it's uh then how then? How what's

1266
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:25,120
Speaker 5: the DEEI hirer? That's then? How the reindeer loved him?

1267
01:23:25,720 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 3: Huh?

1268
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:29,800
Speaker 1: Okay, I did I didn't know that. I didn't know that. Santa.

1269
01:23:30,080 --> 01:23:35,240
Speaker 1: Where's the where's the drums when you need it? Right there?

1270
01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:37,840
Speaker 1: Santa Claus joining us? Okay, Santa, we do have to

1271
01:23:37,880 --> 01:23:41,280
Speaker 1: go back earlier. We had President Trump on the show,

1272
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:45,639
Speaker 1: and while he resolved the strike, there have been tariffs

1273
01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,680
Speaker 1: on the North Pole, and it initially it was a

1274
01:23:47,720 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 1: little testy. Take a listen to this. Why are you

1275
01:23:50,360 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 1: tariffing the North Pole? Why won't that make Santa's job

1276
01:23:55,200 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 1: more difficult?

1277
01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:02,320
Speaker 4: I tried sanctions and Frank, please, I'm not letting very

1278
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,120
Speaker 4: many people in from the North fall at all and

1279
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,960
Speaker 4: him flying over our airspace is very threatening to me.

1280
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:16,400
Speaker 4: We've got one of our genuine hot Rod Venezuela drones

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Speaker 4: tracking him this year.

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Speaker 1: And he went on well after I talked about how

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Speaker 1: damaging terrors are to Christmas. We had this revelation, Santa,

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Speaker 1: and I want your reaction.

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Speaker 4: Also. I'm rethinking my terraff on the North pall after

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Speaker 4: after speaking with you, Jimmy, I'm thinking of change, quick change,

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Speaker 4: quick change. Santa's coming, Sanna's coming here. I'm very excited.

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Speaker 4: Police navidad that's Spanish for something about Christmas.

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Speaker 1: Merry Christmas. Yes, carow on you.

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Speaker 4: Police nab me DoD. That's the story. That's a different story.

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Speaker 4: Police knob me DoD.

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Speaker 1: A Santa, we just heard there that the tariffs are

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Speaker 1: going to be lifted on the North Pole. Excited are you?

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Speaker 1: Just before Christmas?

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Speaker 5: And the President Trump assured me on the secret Santa

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Speaker 5: cell phone, Uh, just this afternoon that the tariffs would

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Speaker 5: be listed lifted and I would fly unencumbered over the

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Speaker 5: entire world and deliver all my presents to the good

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Speaker 5: poisoned girls of the world, and that he would not interfere.

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Speaker 5: And uh we we have the permission, and of course,

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Speaker 5: uh Norrad will be tracking us and following us the

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Speaker 5: entire night. So uh yeah, that's that's very exciting. And

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Speaker 5: uh I knew, I knew we could. We could get

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Speaker 5: something done there.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's to be reasonable, you know, by the way,

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Speaker 6: Norradsanta dot Org is of course the place where a

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Speaker 6: Norrad tracks Santa Claus on his trajectory throughout Christmas Eve.

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Speaker 1: Nor Ad Santa dot Org. Now, Santa, I know that

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Speaker 1: the tariff issue has been resolved, at least for the

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Speaker 1: North Pole. I'd love the Christmas miracle. Let's get rid

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Speaker 1: of all tariffs across the world right now, But unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's a gift you could bring. But

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Speaker 1: before that resolution, I believe there was a poem that

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Speaker 1: you had written or something like that. Can you share

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Speaker 1: with us?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, And in the spirit of bold the original Gridge,

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna read it in my favorite actor from your

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Speaker 5: Boris Cardoff. I'm gonna read it in his voice.

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Speaker 1: Okay, please do please do.

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Speaker 5: Every Blue in the Blue States hated Christmas a lot,

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Speaker 5: but the reds in the Red States, however, did not.

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Speaker 5: The Blues hate this holiday. There are reasons, just so

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Speaker 5: they can't stand the word Christmas has christ, don't you know?

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Speaker 5: They claim the economy gets a bad rent, so now

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Speaker 5: they can't buy all their cheap Chinese crap. Then Trump

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Speaker 5: caught an idea, a horribly wonderful, awful idea. I got

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Speaker 5: a new plan.

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Speaker 4: I know it.

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Speaker 5: I'll do. I'll install some more tariffs. Really give them

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Speaker 5: a screw. I'll ruin their Christmas with executive orders doubling

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Speaker 5: the cost of their phones and recorders. The Blues, they

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Speaker 5: complained of empty holiday stockings. They ranted and raved in

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Speaker 5: posts and kicktokings. But the Reds don't listen to ifs

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Speaker 5: and and pots. They saved enough money thanks to the

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Speaker 5: tax cuts, so Christmas came anyway, despite protests and shouts.

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Speaker 5: Now the Blues know what it is to elf around

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Speaker 5: and find.

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Speaker 1: Out that's that's a political fund. Santa. Oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: you have such a fun political mind.

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Speaker 5: Santa.

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Speaker 1: We are we are out of time here on the program.

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Speaker 1: I wanted to ask you to share some final words

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Speaker 1: on this Christmas eve eve.

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Speaker 4: Well, I just want to.

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Speaker 5: Make sure that everybody has a little piece on eors

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Speaker 5: and good world towards men and well with all those tariffs,

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Speaker 5: that's about the only one in the place that people

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Speaker 5: can afford to shop for Christmas, well was silly. Merry

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Speaker 5: Christmas everyone, Mr Christmas to all, unto all, good night.

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Speaker 1: Thank you Santa Claus once again, good old Saint Nick

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Speaker 1: joining us here on a KOA and we appreciate the

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Speaker 1: fun time with him. I did get as we wrap

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Speaker 1: up the program today, and thanks for being along for

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Speaker 1: the ride this morning on KOA. Jimmy Sangenberger in for

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Speaker 1: Michael Brown. Listeners wondering where the band is playing next.

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Speaker 1: The Jimmy Junior Blues Band's next gig on the calendar

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Speaker 1: to round out the year where playing New Year's E

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Speaker 1: from eight to eleven PM at t Birds in wheat Ridge.

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Speaker 1: I think that's forty fourth and Kipling. They're having us

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Speaker 1: back there for some New Year's E festivities and then

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Speaker 1: we'll see in the new year where we get scheduled.

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Speaker 1: But you better believe the Jimmy Junior Blues Band will

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Speaker 1: be performing a lot more come twenty twenty six. Looking

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Speaker 1: forward to that. Jimmy Junior Music dot Com or the

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Speaker 1: website and Jimmy Junior Blues Band you can search on Facebook.

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Speaker 1: So that's coming up New Year's Eve and also next week,

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Speaker 1: by the way, with the exception of New Year's Day,

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Speaker 1: I will be in right here on KOA filling in

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Speaker 1: for ros Kiminski. Ros Kiminsky on the News with Gina Gondek.

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Speaker 1: We will be doing the show coming up Monday, Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Wednesday and Friday next week. I'm looking forward to New

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Speaker 1: Year's Eve. I'll start early morning on KOA from six

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Speaker 1: to nine and then that night Jimmy Junior Blues Band

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Speaker 1: eight to eleven at Tea Birds in wheat Ridge. Going

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Speaker 1: to have a great time, have a very merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed today's show. What a lot of

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Speaker 1: fun can we have on the program, and we do it,

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Speaker 1: we do it in style, We have a great time

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Speaker 1: and you make it happen. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: being along with us today. Have a very, very merry Christmas.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you next week six to nine. I'll be

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Speaker 1: in for Ross on Monday, and as I always close,

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Speaker 1: May God bless America.