1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: Kemper blocked off between Columbia Parkway and Francis Lane. Tree 2 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: down across the roadway. With Saint Patrick's Day coming up, 3 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 1: our next guest has an awesome recipe for corned beef 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: and cabbage. Wash it down with Againnis the judges next 5 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 1: Chuck Ingram on fifty five KR see the talk station. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Hey thirty one. Yeah, that's a great Irish name, Napolitano. 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 2: Everybody's Irish on Saint Patrick's Day. I happen to have 8 00:00:32,080 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 2: a lot of Irish blood and me, Judge Napolitana, but 9 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 2: we do not claim cultural appropriation when it comes to 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Saint Patrick's Day. We Irish. Everyone is invited to the fund. 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Welcome back, Judge of Paulaitana. I love heaving you on 12 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 2: the show, sir, especially on the heels of Congressman Thomas Massey, 13 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,879 Speaker 2: who also I got him to comment on the upcoming 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 2: potential renewal FAIZA section seven h two, which is the 15 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 2: subject matter of your column which comes out tonight. I'm 16 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:58,000 Speaker 2: fortunate to get it early. Silent attacks on personal freedom, 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: Judge Nittapolitano. I love you started out with zero click, 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: which you can remind my listeners what it is because 19 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 2: we've talked about it before. This nefarious Israeli created software 20 00:01:08,640 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 2: zero Click, coupled with I'm boiling your article down, coupled 21 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,800 Speaker 2: with Section seven oh two, means we no longer have 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: a Fourth Amendment in our country. 23 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say that I agree with you fully. 24 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:24,880 Speaker 3: Zero Click is a software which the FBI, without authorization, 25 00:01:25,480 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 3: purchased during the first Trump administration. The existence of this 26 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:37,160 Speaker 3: purchase became known during the Biden administration. Then FBI Director 27 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 3: Chris Ray was summoned before Congress. He insisted on meeting 28 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: with them in secret. He did, and then some of 29 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 3: them revealed what he said in secret, which is that 30 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: the FBI did purchase it. He wants people to believe 31 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 3: they didn't use it, that they bought it because they 32 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: wanted to see how it worked. Now, nobody believed that, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 3: but he said it was locked up in a warehouse 34 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 3: in New Jersey. You can't make this up New Jersey, 35 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: of all places. I say, nobody believed that. The President 36 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 3: of the United States at the time, Joe Biden, didn't 37 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: believe his own FBI director, and he's issued an executive 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 3: order prohibiting the use of zero click. So you know 39 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:21,839 Speaker 3: how when people are phishing or spamming and you get 40 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: a crazy link saying click on this link and you'll 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 3: make this money. You click on this link to secure 42 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 3: your internet usage, and you click on it, and bingo, 43 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 3: a virus infects your contacts. Zero click allows the user 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: of the product to gain access to the target the 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:48,880 Speaker 3: contents of the target's digital device without having to trick 46 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,799 Speaker 3: the target into clicking on the link. You just install it, 47 00:02:53,360 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 3: and bingo, you've engaged in computer hacking on whomever you 48 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,639 Speaker 3: want to hack. Joe Biden, prohibit its use. 49 00:03:00,800 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 2: That's a crime computer hacking. 50 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 3: Correct, It's punishable by five years in jail per hack. Ooh, 51 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: and the FBI aggressively prosecutes people for this, except when 52 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 3: they do it. Because we learned this week that President 53 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 3: Trump very quietly rescinded Joe Biden's executive order and a 54 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:27,960 Speaker 3: prohibiting the use of zero click. Now, this comes at 55 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: the same time that the President announced one hundred and 56 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 3: eighty degree change of heart, change of mind on section 57 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 3: seven O two of FISA. Seven O two e PISA 58 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: allows American spies to spy on foreigners without a warrant. 59 00:03:45,000 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 3: It also allows them to spy on the Americans with 60 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 3: whom they speak without a warrant. It also allows them 61 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: to spy on the persons to whom those Americans speak 62 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:57,240 Speaker 3: out to the sixth degree without a warrant. Now do 63 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: the math. This six degree grows exponentially. In twenty twenty three, 64 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 3: they spied on three million Americans without a warrant because 65 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 3: these Americans spoke to a foreign person. Could be an 66 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: innocuous phone call, to a hotel, to a relative, to 67 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: an art dealer. But once you make that communication phone 68 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: call or text or email, all of the government gains 69 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 3: and ability to spy in everything you do and everyone 70 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 3: to whom you and your communicants speak out to the 71 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 3: sixth degree. Do the math. The three million foreign views 72 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 3: grow exponentially to three hundred and thirty million Americans. So 73 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 3: seven oh two. Congressman Massi is one of the few 74 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 3: members of Congress who knows this. Seven oh two allows 75 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 3: American spies to spy on all Americans without a warrant. 76 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: But if you give them zero click, they don't need 77 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:01,039 Speaker 3: seven oh two. They don't need fis fisus just to 78 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,040 Speaker 3: figley fiz us, just to charade. Look, we're going to 79 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:06,839 Speaker 3: the fies a cord blowney, You're going to the fis 80 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: the court to make yourself look legal. In reality, with 81 00:05:10,200 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 3: zero click, you can download any computer, desktop, or mobile 82 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:20,159 Speaker 3: device at any time without a warrant, without suspicion, just 83 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 3: because you want to. Well, thank you, thank you, Donald Trump. 84 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: Well and the other well Donald Trump and a lot 85 00:05:25,800 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 2: of members of Congress who voted for seven to two 86 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: in the first place. But Massy pointed out something that 87 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 2: it never really cost my field of vision, at least 88 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,200 Speaker 2: conceptually speaking, in terms of FIZA and seven o two. 89 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: Your cloud information could be stored in a foreign land. 90 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:43,120 Speaker 2: You may not even know that. You could be using 91 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 2: a VPN, which makes it appear as though and you 92 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,239 Speaker 2: are working through a computer outside of the United States, 93 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 2: immediately subjecting you to automatic surveillance because it's a foreign 94 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: nation which doesn't require a search warm here in the 95 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: United States. That to spy on those records, I mean, 96 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 2: the layers of this are crazy. I'm just I wonder 97 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:03,160 Speaker 2: how many times they've searched Kevin Bacon's records, considering we're 98 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,599 Speaker 2: all six degrees or seven degrees separated from Kevin Bacon. 99 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 2: Your illustration of the of the six degrees out. It 100 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:13,679 Speaker 2: fulfills that point. Everyone is subject to a warrantless search. 101 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 3: But to go back to what you said at the 102 00:06:16,600 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 3: outset of our conversation, this is a mockery of the 103 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:27,080 Speaker 3: Fourth Amendment, the effectively the clause of the Fourth Amendment 104 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 3: which says, the people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers, 105 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: and effects, and no warrant shall issue but on probable cause, 106 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,599 Speaker 3: which means probable cause of crime, crime sworn to under oath, 107 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,599 Speaker 3: and no warrant shall issue unless it specifically describes the 108 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 3: places to be searched and the persons there are things 109 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 3: to be seized. This is just a mockery. Now Madison 110 00:06:56,680 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: would be sending down thunderbolts from heaven if he would, 111 00:07:01,440 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 3: if such a feature is available to him. Because we 112 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 3: have no privacy any longer. Congress and a series of 113 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 3: presidents are responsible for this. I'll tell you this story. 114 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 3: I may have told it before if I have stopped me. 115 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 3: When seven oh two was about to be reauthorized in 116 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 3: twenty nineteen, I was one of the co hosts son 117 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 3: Fox and Friends. I looked into the camera. I said, 118 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 3: mister President, I think you're probably watching veto this extension 119 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: these are the powers that were used on you. You and 120 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,800 Speaker 3: I have discussed this, yes, before you were president, and 121 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: they're probably being used on you now. Ten minutes later 122 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,080 Speaker 3: on truth, social or whatever it was called at the time, 123 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 3: I'm vetoing seven oh two. An hour later, Paul Ryan, 124 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 3: then the Speaker of the House, Mitch McConnell, than the 125 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 3: leader of the Republicans in the Senate, Mike Pence, then 126 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 3: the Vice President of the United States, and a few others. 127 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 3: Mark Meadows ran to the Oval offices. You can't do this. 128 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 3: You can't do well, the judge says, it violates the 129 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 3: Fourth Amendment. Oh, the judge thinks the Constitution means what 130 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 3: it says, said someone who is in the room to me, 131 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: and then the President sends a message to me through 132 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 3: this same person. I can't tell you who it was 133 00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: who was in the room. Sorry, judge, they twisted my arm. Wow, Okay, 134 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:37,719 Speaker 3: this is reprehensible. Where we are in this, Brian. The 135 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 3: only saving grace is that most federal judges would not 136 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 3: allow anything gathered in this way to be used in 137 00:08:47,160 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 3: a federal court. But the Feds are very very adept 138 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 3: at disguising how they've got how they've their initial acquisition 139 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:55,839 Speaker 3: of this data. 140 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 2: And of course in my reply to you, I said, 141 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 2: now I'm off in search of someone with standing who 142 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: can challenge this in court. And the reason we don't 143 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: have standings because they don't bother using the evidence they gather, 144 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: because they know damn well if they go if you 145 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:10,559 Speaker 2: go into court on a motion to quash emotion to 146 00:09:10,559 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 2: suppress evidence, all of this comes out and the court 147 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 2: rules the entire concept to be unconstitutional. We just can't 148 00:09:16,360 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 2: get into court on it, right right. 149 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,920 Speaker 3: Oh well, now, Brian, before we go, I have to 150 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 3: congratulate you on making the Barrett and Media top ten 151 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 3: mid size market. What a beautiful, beautiful, touching article that was. 152 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 3: As somebody that knows you well, that article captures your 153 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 3: personality and your humility at your success. I could looms 154 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 3: on my arms, Brian. 155 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: I appreciate that from the bottom of my heart. And 156 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 2: I wasn't really doing it to toot my own horn 157 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 2: and fording it to you. I just kind of it's 158 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 2: because of guests like you. I think that I have 159 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 2: gained that much popularity that I am in the top 160 00:09:55,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: ten on the on the mid market stations in this nation, 161 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:00,840 Speaker 2: and you know it's folks like you keep content great 162 00:10:00,840 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: and interesting and keep the intellectual juices flowing and put 163 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,119 Speaker 2: people in a hard position. Do you support the Constitution 164 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 2: or do you support this expedient road we're going down to? 165 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: And you and I usually end up playing the same place. 166 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:17,560 Speaker 3: I appreciate what you say. I am acutely aware of 167 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 3: the Brian Thomas fans whom I rubbed the wrong way, 168 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:23,959 Speaker 3: because some of them tell me. 169 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: How good I'm glad they reach out to you so less. 170 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,560 Speaker 3: As long as we can make people think we are 171 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 3: serving our. 172 00:10:31,240 --> 00:10:34,040 Speaker 2: Purpose, Amen, brother, And that's one of the reasons I 173 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 2: love you so much. You know you're always welcome here, sir. 174 00:10:36,360 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: Agree or disagree, it's the point of talking and engaging 175 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,480 Speaker 2: in these important conversations and getting people thinking about it. 176 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: God bless you judge in Itena, Paula tun And we'll 177 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 2: do this next Wednesday. And I hope between now and 178 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: then you have a fantastic week, sir. 179 00:10:48,200 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 3: Right back at you, Brian, all the best to you, 180 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 3: to Streker, to Ingram, to your whole crew. 181 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 2: Thank you, thank you much. It's take forty two. If 182 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: you have Kcity talk station and power, are you fraud? 183 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 2: In Minnesota shocked Jennie High, little coming up and