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Speaker 1: is Maddie Beniar's. You're listening to Cracking Weekly with Mike Benton.

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Speaker 1: Tough week. The krack and have finally put in the

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Speaker 1: rearview of mirror because they've got to shift focused now

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Speaker 1: to what's going to be arguably their biggest challenge of

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Speaker 1: the season in the Colorado Avalanche and then after that

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Speaker 1: onto the road before the holiday break. Mike Benton with

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Speaker 1: you for Cracking Weekly. Of course, each and every week.

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Speaker 1: Al Kaniski will be with me and you coming up

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Speaker 1: in just a little bit. We're also gonna hear from

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Speaker 1: Scott Laughlin, host of NHL Morning Skate on Sirius XM,

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Speaker 1: NHL Network Radio. He's gonna start the show here with us.

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Speaker 1: get to Scott in just a little bit. As far

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Speaker 1: as the overall scope of the Kraken competition in the

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Speaker 1: the NHL Trade landscape headline by the trade of Quinn

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Speaker 1: Scott Laughlin will be with us here in just a bit.

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Speaker 1: Things can change by the end of this evening, but

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Speaker 1: the Krack and as of right now, still hanging in

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Speaker 1: the mix, but have some work to do to leapfrog,

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Speaker 1: not just Saint Louis, not just Winnipeg, not just Chicago,

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Speaker 1: not just Utah, but also the San Jose Sharks to

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Speaker 1: find their way back into a wildcard spot. One thing

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Speaker 1: they have in their favor games in hand. They stand

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Speaker 1: the Western Conference, and they have games in hand on

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Speaker 1: virtually everybody ahead of them. They have three games in

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Speaker 1: hand on Saint Louis, one on Winnipeg, two on Chicago,

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Speaker 1: is coming up on their schedule this Saturday, So that

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Speaker 1: could be a big game, certainly as a Crack and

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Speaker 1: their entire room. We'll talk about it in just a

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Speaker 1: bit here with Everett now on the schedule here for

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Speaker 1: this week again the Crack and tomorrow night and taking

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Speaker 1: on the Colorado Avalanche airtime at six point thirty pug

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Speaker 1: drop being a little past seven o'clock Pacific time. National

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Speaker 1: TV's got the game. So again we are your only

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Speaker 1: we get to Scott Laughlin of Sirius XMNHL Network Radio

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Speaker 1: again left.

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Speaker 2: Side, but here's in front. Try to fine everybody on

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Speaker 3: In the corner, and now we've got a melee has

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Speaker 2: Cop guitar wins at Edmondson around the boards. Done, saves

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Speaker 4: We directs the shot home on the power play the Seattle.

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Speaker 1: This game's tiers Fit's done.

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Speaker 1: Morning Skate, Scott. Great to have you along, my friend.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this. Also well known metal head.

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Speaker 7: why don't we have to choose, you know, can't we

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Speaker 1: Go ahead and round the mall up here. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we tend to play this or that in this radio

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Speaker 1: business here, but hey, if you can put them all

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Speaker 1: right back and turn back the clock. Sign me up

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Speaker 1: as well to my friend. But absolutely recently, this last Friday,

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Speaker 7: Well, look, I think Minnesota is in it to winning

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Speaker 7: that they've got a talented team that's got some veteran

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Speaker 7: I thought they had at great return that comes back Mike.

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Speaker 7: send it to New Jersey. Whatever New Jersey, I'll send

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Speaker 7: of hockey pucks. Well, we'll make the deal. No, Patrick

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Speaker 7: to outscore opponents, you've got to get done in other ways.

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Speaker 7: And teams like Los Angeles going back to twenty twelve

434
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Speaker 7: and twenty fourteen under Daryl Setter won the Stanley Cup

435
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Speaker 7: with that process. But you could clearly tell that they

436
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Speaker 7: had players on that team that could score just a

437
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Speaker 7: little bit more right now than the cracket of course,

438
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Speaker 7: have brought to the surface Scott before.

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Speaker 1: We get out the crack and have Colorado Calgary San

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Speaker 1: Jose coming up on this next week's schedule. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know that Calgary is in a different place right now.

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Speaker 1: But as far as the Avalanche and the Sharks, two

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Speaker 1: things all addressed with you, and you can volley right

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Speaker 1: back as far as your thoughts here on this, I

445
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Speaker 1: mean the Avalanche, of there's any flaw on this team,

446
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Speaker 1: what is it to you and does it even exist?

447
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Speaker 1: And as far as San Jose, how close do you

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Speaker 1: think they are to their true contention window.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll start with Santose first. You know, Mike, I've

450
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Speaker 7: had my analytics buddies tell me that Santose does not

451
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Speaker 7: do very well when it comes to analytical stats in

452
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Speaker 7: terms of expected shots and things of that nature. Now,

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Speaker 7: I hope delve too far into that. I'm a little

454
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Speaker 7: bit old school when it comes to that. Analytics can

455
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Speaker 7: be used obviously as a bit of a tool, but

456
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Speaker 7: to me, it's not the ultimate determination as to what

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Speaker 7: you are as a hockey club. But the numbers are

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Speaker 7: not great for Santjose. Despite the fact that they're in

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Speaker 7: a playoffs pot as of Saturday. I've really liked a

460
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Speaker 7: lot of what they've done there, and again this gets

461
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Speaker 7: back to building, and for Santose, they really stripped it

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Speaker 7: right down for a team that for a couple of

463
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Speaker 7: decades running always seemed to be a playoff team and

464
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Speaker 7: made the Stanley Cup Final that one year against Crosby

465
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Speaker 7: and the Pittsburgh Penguin. So when you've got the high

466
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Speaker 7: end guys like maclan cellabrine, and you've got Wilson, and

467
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Speaker 7: you've got a number of other young players that you

468
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Speaker 7: can build around, I think that's a great start. Askarov

469
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Speaker 7: has really solidified their goaltending to a certain extent and

470
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Speaker 7: projects to be their goalie the future. I think chandals

471
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Speaker 7: A is a team that just misses the playoffs as well.

472
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Speaker 7: I think they're battling with the likes of the Kraken

473
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Speaker 7: when it's all said and done, but they certainly are

474
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Speaker 7: well on their way as we know, led by Celebride.

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Speaker 7: I think the Avalanche, you're trying to figure out what

476
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Speaker 7: their weakness is right now, Mike, and the weakness of

477
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Speaker 7: course in the last couple of years that's really held

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Speaker 7: Colorado back. I think, aside from playing a team like

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Speaker 7: Dallas in the playoffs, for the Avalanche's in that second

480
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Speaker 7: line center position, and you wondered who would be Nazam

481
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Speaker 7: cadri I mean, when they won the Stanley Cup. Cadriy

482
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Speaker 7: was that ideal second line center playing behind Nate McKinnon,

483
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Speaker 7: and they had all the pieces in place. Now, whether

484
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Speaker 7: it's some combination of Brock Nelson or some other guys

485
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Speaker 7: up front that can fill that role in a consistent basis,

486
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Speaker 7: we'll have to wait and see if there's a bugaboo

487
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Speaker 7: mini that ris a Dudley Head for them. At some point,

488
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Speaker 7: it just might be that second line center position, third

489
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Speaker 7: line center position, in depth down the middle. Right now,

490
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Speaker 7: they've got enough production coming out of those spots to

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Speaker 7: be a team that's lost what two games in regulation

492
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Speaker 7: time all season long in their first thirty one somewhat

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Speaker 7: remarkable what the record is. I think defense, obviously, when

494
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Speaker 7: you've got cal mccarr is a great place to start

495
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Speaker 7: with a guy who very well could go on to

496
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Speaker 7: another Norris Trophy at the end of it all. And

497
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Speaker 7: I think we saw last season too much with Colorado

498
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Speaker 7: right that they weren't afraid to shake things up. They

499
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Speaker 7: did not like their goaltending, so instead of just trading

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Speaker 7: away one goalie, they traded away both goalies. That was

501
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Speaker 7: something we had never ever witnessed an extra hockey league history,

502
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Speaker 7: where two guys went out and two guys came back.

503
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Speaker 7: They're a better team with the two guys that they

504
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Speaker 7: got back, right, So they've committed to Mackenzie Blackwood, and

505
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Speaker 7: although he's had a history of injury in his career,

506
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden comes a thirty three year old

507
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Speaker 7: journeyman boltender at Scott Wedgwood who's having the season of

508
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Speaker 7: his life, so much so that some are kicking around

509
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Speaker 7: his name as possibly the third goalie for Team Canada

510
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Speaker 7: at the Olympics in February. That's how good he's been

511
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Speaker 7: for the Avalanche. So, to answer your question, goaltending has

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Speaker 7: more than upheld the end of the bargain. When you've

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Speaker 7: got m Cale mccarr to start on the fence, that's

514
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Speaker 7: a great place to begin. And then when you've got

515
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Speaker 7: to argue with the best player on the planet right

516
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Speaker 7: now and Nathan McKinnon surrounded by a bunch of great

517
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Speaker 7: offensive players, Yeah, you've got the depth as well, that

518
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Speaker 7: we think is a pre record to win another Stanley

519
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Speaker 7: Cup championship. Biggest question for me, like I said Mike,

520
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Speaker 7: getting back to it all would be second and third

521
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Speaker 7: line center. Is there were enough depth down the middle?

522
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Speaker 7: And if there's not, how aggressive of Chris McFarlane and

523
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Speaker 7: Joe Sacka could have become the trade deadline.

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Speaker 1: This was great, Scott, Hey, thank you very much. I've

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Speaker 1: got two words for you, rock on if we can

526
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Speaker 1: get it ever gets the music clearance, I mean bringing

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Speaker 1: back with the Judas Priest soundtrack as well. Thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, anytime, Mike here. I look forward to my first

530
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Speaker 7: visit out there to the Seatt at Washington. My first

531
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Speaker 7: thing that they'll do when I get off the plane

532
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Speaker 7: is head for the Chris Cornell statue. Yes, I'll reap

533
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Speaker 7: the benefits of all the great history of music out

534
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Speaker 7: there for sure.

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Speaker 1: All right, big thank you again to Scott Laughlin for

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Speaker 1: joining us. We got to get him off the top

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Speaker 1: here as he's at a pretty crunch schedule. Well, Al

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Speaker 1: Kaniski Everett fits you were doing this roundtable once again

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Speaker 1: for Cracking Weekly. All right, guys, Alan, I kind of

540
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Speaker 1: let an air out after Sunday Nights after a three

541
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Speaker 1: to one lost to Buffalo, and there were some thoughts

542
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Speaker 1: because I think a lot of the frustrations that we

543
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Speaker 1: shared were also echoed from guys like Brandon Montour who

544
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Speaker 1: said there just wasn't enough emotion and enough energy, and

545
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Speaker 1: then Lane Lambert basically going back to reiterate the same

546
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Speaker 1: issues again and why the cracking got there in that

547
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Speaker 1: it just wasn't good enough. So after last week lost

548
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Speaker 1: in Minnesota and you snashed victory from the jaws of

549
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Speaker 1: defeat against the Kings, you keep it close in Utah

550
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Speaker 1: and fall after a power play Golden Dylan Gunther into

551
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Speaker 1: empty netters and then Buffalo from Sunday night and that

552
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Speaker 1: three to one lost. Guys, where are we at right

553
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Speaker 1: now with the state of matters?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think I echo a lot of

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Speaker 6: the things we talked about last night, Mike, as well

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Speaker 6: as Lane's comments and the Brandon Montour's comments that a

557
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Speaker 6: lot of frustration now with the result this team's getting.

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Speaker 6: And you know, Lane mentioned perfection and his post came

559
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Speaker 6: scrum I like to think about it now, and ever,

560
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Speaker 6: it wasn't there when I mentioned, so I'll repeat it

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Speaker 6: again I like to think about from the standpoint of

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Speaker 6: you always want to strive for perfection, and everybody goes, well,

563
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Speaker 6: you can't. No one's perfect, no one's perfect, true, but

564
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Speaker 6: if you strive for it, then you achieve excellence. Like

565
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Speaker 6: you're right there at perfection, right at the edge, bumping

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Speaker 6: up against perfection. And I think that's the way this

567
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Speaker 6: team has to operate every single game to be in

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Speaker 6: it and give themselves a chance to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I think for me, we use the

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Speaker 2: word frustrating a lot just because of the state of

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Speaker 2: where this team is. And I mean, if I'm being honest,

572
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Speaker 2: I'm going to go further than frustrated. It's just annoying.

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Speaker 2: And I don't mean this for you know, the players

574
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Speaker 2: are trying their hardest, and the players that there's nothing

575
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Speaker 2: more left to give, at least from a two hundred

576
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Speaker 2: foot press box view, right, you see that these teams,

577
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Speaker 2: the team every single night is playing well enough to

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Speaker 2: minimally deserve points. And outside of the oiler games, outside

579
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Speaker 2: of you know, the San Jos a game about a

580
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Speaker 2: month or so ago, the Utah Games, a five to

581
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Speaker 2: three game that's all window dressing because of the two

582
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Speaker 2: empty net goals the three to one game against Buffalo,

583
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Speaker 2: it was a one one two one game until the

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Speaker 2: empty net goal. Annoying comes to mind because this team,

585
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Speaker 2: they are trying and the frustration is there, but it's

586
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Speaker 2: annoying that they have to be perfect every single night.

587
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Speaker 2: It's annoying that you need to have a perfect effort

588
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Speaker 2: just to it seems, get a one goal win or

589
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Speaker 2: to force overtime. And and you know when when you

590
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Speaker 2: see players like Jacob Malonsi who gets called up and

591
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Speaker 2: he's hitting everything that moves and he almost had a

592
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Speaker 2: goal the other night last night, When you see guys

593
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Speaker 2: like Chandler Stevenson constantly being sent out there against the

594
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,719
Speaker 2: top players on every team, he's getting the toughest assignments.

595
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Speaker 2: When you see Matty Beniers becoming one of the best

596
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Speaker 2: two way centermen, if not in the Pacific Division, definitely

597
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Speaker 2: in the or not in the conference, definitely in the

598
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Speaker 2: Pacific Division. You're seeing all of these guys working so

599
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Speaker 2: hard and it's just annoying that if they're not getting

600
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Speaker 2: rewarded for that hard work, and then you're asking yourself

601
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Speaker 2: what else left is there to do? And and you

602
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,400
Speaker 2: heard Chandler Stevenson say, you know, it's kind of it's

603
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Speaker 2: it sucks at rock bottom. It's hard down here looking up.

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Speaker 2: And I think the saving grace I guess of all

605
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Speaker 2: of this is that you're only five points back in

606
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Speaker 2: a very bunched up league, in a very bunched up conference.

607
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Speaker 2: So a couple of whims here, a few losses above

608
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Speaker 2: you there, you're right back in it. But I mean,

609
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Speaker 2: one seven and one in your last nine like that,

610
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Speaker 2: that is not a recipe for success. Clearly.

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Speaker 1: I had somebody comment to me on Twitter and X

612
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Speaker 1: and trust me, it was I think one of the

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Speaker 1: longer comment threads I have seen in my career since

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Speaker 1: year one of this franchise. And there were a lot

615
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Speaker 1: of thoughts as well from the fans side, and there

616
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Speaker 1: was a lot of frustration. Part of it had to

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Speaker 1: do with Ty Cartier and the hit he took late

618
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Speaker 1: in the third period, and I had to ask, once again,

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Speaker 1: when you bring up a guy like Jacob Alanson, who

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Speaker 1: is earning the praise of your head coach after just

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Speaker 1: one game for laying in seven hits, seven hits and

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Speaker 1: in just two shifts, two minutes and over about roughly

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Speaker 1: thirty seconds of ice teime. He's got four hits. You

624
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Speaker 1: would hope, you would hope that is an infectious carrying

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Speaker 1: all the way into what's going to be the most

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Speaker 1: challenging game of the year in the Colorado Avalanche. And

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Speaker 1: I think for me, that's just part of where the

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Speaker 1: frustration came from, with a whole lot of guys saying, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know what, there's a lot of illness going here

630
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Speaker 1: through this room, and it's easy for us to say

631
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Speaker 1: as well, but guess what the league is experienced in

632
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Speaker 1: this over and over and over. Buffalo played ill last

633
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Speaker 1: night and they found a way to get three goals

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Speaker 1: out of the operation.

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Speaker 6: So again, yeah, when they came to town, they still won.

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Speaker 1: And again this has to be the mantra to get

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Speaker 1: to your point, Everett. When we can use the words frustration,

638
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Speaker 1: we can use the words annoying. But you're looking to

639
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Speaker 1: find a collective effort where you have everyone pulling together

640
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Speaker 1: and all the excuses are wiped out of the room.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I know the you know the hitt on cards.

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Speaker 2: I mean that was I've watched it a few times

643
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Speaker 2: and that was as boarding of a call as you're

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Speaker 2: going to gat. I mean it wasn't predatory, it wasn't

645
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Speaker 2: dirty or dangerous. He wasn't out to hit him. I'm

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Speaker 2: not going to go that far to hurt him. I'm

647
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 2: not going to go that far. But when you see

648
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:10,880
Speaker 2: a hit like that, whether the hit was clean or not.

649
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 2: And JT and I we talked about this all the time.

650
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: He's a fourth line guy. He made his money in

651
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,840
Speaker 2: the bottom six. He hit everything that moved. He fought

652
00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 2: and punched above his weight class. He was that guy

653
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:25,360
Speaker 2: who had to to to bring the energy. And I've

654
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 2: always said to him, I said, you know what, not

655
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 2: every big hit needs a response, right, Sometimes it's a

656
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: big hit and and it's okay. I look at the

657
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,160
Speaker 2: the Vince Done hit on on who did he hit

658
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 2: a couple of a couple of games ago. Was that?

659
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, Zukarell in Minnesota. I look at the Vince

660
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: Done it massive that that was that was a hit

661
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 2: that needed a response. You know, the hit against car

662
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 2: say against the boards, back to the play, no, somewhat

663
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: on that Ice should have went after h I should

664
00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 2: have went after him and and and listen, whether you

665
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,480
Speaker 2: don't want to fight, whether you don't find it work,

666
00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 2: I don't know. What the cause is. But this is

667
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 2: now the third time that I've seen there have been

668
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,960
Speaker 2: pretty bad hits that no one has had to answer

669
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,840
Speaker 2: the bell for, and I think that's an issue. I

670
00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 2: think that's a problem. We've talked about team toughness a

671
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 2: lot over the last four seasons with this group, largely

672
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 2: the same group, and and you know, not calling anyone

673
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 2: out in particular, because I think there is a team

674
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 2: need for toughness. And if if I see one of

675
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: my guys getting buried in the back, whether it's clean

676
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,120
Speaker 2: or dirty or not, you're gonna know that that's not okay.

677
00:32:40,240 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: And also there's the one thing about you know, everybody ropes,

678
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,239
Speaker 1: everybody rides, and this is why Brandon Montour didn't want

679
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:46,760
Speaker 1: to go out and throw guys under the bus here.

680
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 1: But he said, yeah, not enough emotion, not enough urgency.

681
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,720
Speaker 2: Well, and Jordan Eberlee even said a couple of games ago,

682
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 2: he goes, we need more will, we need more passion.

683
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: I mean, this is your captain saying that you need

684
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:03,560
Speaker 2: more will and you need more passion. So your your

685
00:33:03,640 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 2: coach has challenged you, your captain has challenged you. I

686
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 2: know players don't like to listen to the fans. The

687
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,200
Speaker 2: fans have challenged you, what more do you need? What

688
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 2: more of a challenge do you need?

689
00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,720
Speaker 6: Yeah, And to circle it back to a positive because

690
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 6: it's it's it sounds very negative that we're talking about.

691
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 6: The positive is is you had a guy in the

692
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 6: lineup in that in that in that game against Buffalo

693
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 6: that probably could be that person that was Jacob Mallonson.

694
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: Getting everything that moved.

695
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 6: Now and as much as I like that and it's

696
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 6: great to have that on your team, you can't be

697
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,239
Speaker 6: a one dimensional player. So that you know, he's got

698
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 6: to show that he's got more than that in his

699
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 6: tool case, Like, don't put that away, keep doing that,

700
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 6: but go get a greasy goal, you know, go go

701
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:50,240
Speaker 6: go on a back check and stop somebody turn a

702
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 6: two on two, two on one and two on two, whatever.

703
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:54,680
Speaker 6: But show that you've got that two hundred foot game

704
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 6: and that you're not going to hurt the team when

705
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 6: you're on the ice. And he didn't in that game.

706
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 6: But all I'm saying is that if he develops his

707
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 6: game where he builds that trust by Leiane Lambert to

708
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 6: play the defensive side, he'll work himself off the fourth

709
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 6: line and onto the third line. As he continues to

710
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 6: play that way, and the higher he goes up playing

711
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,640
Speaker 6: that way, the more space he's going to create for

712
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,759
Speaker 6: his linemates, the more team toughness goes up. And you

713
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 6: need more than just one guy playing that way. When

714
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 6: I say playing that way, I don't mean seven hits

715
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 6: in a game, but I mean playing tough, standing up

716
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 6: for each other, not putting up with situations like the

717
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 6: carts hit and other hits we've seen Berkeley Catton throughout,

718
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 6: you know, throughout the season, just not putting up with it,

719
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 6: whether you're on the bench or on the ice. If

720
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 6: you're on the bench, you lean over and say something.

721
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,240
Speaker 6: When the media of time what happens, You say something,

722
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,040
Speaker 6: and if the bell needs to be answered, you answer it.

723
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 6: And it affects how teams play. When they play the

724
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 6: Seattle Kraken, they think about what's going to happen when

725
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 6: I when.

726
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,280
Speaker 2: I bored somebody into into the corners.

727
00:34:53,320 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 6: They think about what's going to happen if I plaster

728
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 6: Berkeley Catten into the into.

729
00:34:57,560 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 2: The wall in the corner.

730
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 6: They think about it, and oftentimes they don't do it.

731
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 6: And that's where that's where you gain that space.

732
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,440
Speaker 2: I remember when when when we talked to Freddy Gadrou

733
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 2: during training camp, you know, we asked him what he

734
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: recalls about playing Seattle and and his answer was one

735
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: that we've heard from a lot of teams over the

736
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: last four years. It's like, you know, every night when

737
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 2: you played Seattle. Yeah, they may not have been the

738
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,880
Speaker 2: most offensive team there. They may not they might not

739
00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: have had the superstar, but you know that every time

740
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: you played Seattle, you're in one. You know what's gonna hurt,

741
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:36,360
Speaker 2: You're gonna wake up with bruises, You're gonna that's gonna

742
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 2: be a hard fought win. And there were a lot

743
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 2: of times during those first three seasons when the results

744
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,560
Speaker 2: weren't where you wanted them to be. But the Kraken

745
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 2: were the hardest, one of the hardest teams to play against.

746
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,200
Speaker 2: And we saw that a little bit earlier this season

747
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,879
Speaker 2: with the defensive structure. I go back to the game

748
00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,839
Speaker 2: in Winnipeg. I go back to the the the game

749
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 2: right after against the Oilers at home, where they won

750
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,840
Speaker 2: three to two. You beat Vegas two to one in

751
00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 2: your second game of the season in overtime. You played Dallas.

752
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: Two really strong games against Dallas. So it's there, they

753
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 2: have it, and I think, you know, getting back to

754
00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 2: being a team that's hard to play against, that's going

755
00:36:19,880 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 2: to be important. And there was. The efforts been there.

756
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,239
Speaker 2: No one is questioning this team's effort, No one is

757
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: questioning the team's ability. But it goes back to what

758
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,840
Speaker 2: Lane said, you know, it's almost like we have to

759
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 2: be perfect most nights.

760
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, and this is the reason why, because and I

761
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,920
Speaker 1: think there are two ways to go about the word perfection.

762
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: And now you brought up the athlete mentality part of this, yere,

763
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:44,600
Speaker 1: but I thought what's really important was also to illustrate

764
00:36:44,640 --> 00:36:47,680
Speaker 1: the fact that there's no Jaden Schwartz right now, there's

765
00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: no Jared McCann right now, and so you are missing

766
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: a significant chunk of your offense in this lineup right now.

767
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,439
Speaker 1: To the point where he mentioned you have to play

768
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: the perfect game, it means you have got to play

769
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:09,040
Speaker 1: as mistake free, mistake free as it gets to give

770
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: yourself a chance to win. Case in point, the Buffalo game,

771
00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 1: two biggest mistakes in the night back of their own

772
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,919
Speaker 1: net odd Man rush. And we heard this from Lane

773
00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 1: Lambert in pregame. You can't give up odd man rushes

774
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: to Buffalo and guess what happens in the first period

775
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:29,480
Speaker 1: Oscelin won nothing and then the Vin's Done turnover back

776
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:33,240
Speaker 1: in period two. That one stung too. On Oh Taje

777
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 1: Thompson makes it to nothing.

778
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 2: I mean that he was trying to clear it up

779
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 2: the boards and it was it went off of Tuck's

780
00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:42,280
Speaker 2: skate and then it stayed in the zone and Buffalo

781
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 2: had those two guys back. I mean, yeah, again, maybe.

782
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 6: There's some puck luck in there.

783
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, there absolutely was, absolutely was.

784
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 6: I too felt bad for Vince Done because in addition

785
00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 6: to the clear there was some puck luck that Buffalo

786
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 6: got on that play. But to Mike's point, ended up

787
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 6: being an odd man rush and get both goals were

788
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 6: odd man rushes. Exactly what you don't want with this

789
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 6: Buffalo team.

790
00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,440
Speaker 1: Special teams. Where are we at right now? I mean,

791
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,879
Speaker 1: the penalty kills made a structure change, and I talked

792
00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:15,000
Speaker 1: with Ryan Lindgren and there's I think a little more

793
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,720
Speaker 1: understanding as far as you know fords and how they switch,

794
00:38:18,800 --> 00:38:21,120
Speaker 1: and it's a dynamic thing with where the pucket is going.

795
00:38:21,160 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: But defenseman stay put. And I thought, if you want

796
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: to look at something that is turned to the corner.

797
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: That really I think shows some promise here for this

798
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: group is that in the two power plays that Buffalo

799
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 1: had and this team was coming in on an absolute heater.

800
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:41,640
Speaker 1: Second kill was absolutely huge because it came on the

801
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 1: heels of the Chandler Stevenson goal to make it to one.

802
00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,560
Speaker 1: They go up three to one. That's devastating. But yet

803
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:51,800
Speaker 1: I thought, for allowing Buffalo to get just three shots

804
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: on net rare, did you find a pass that made

805
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: it all the way across the middle? And one thing

806
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: that Ryan Lynn Grinn told me, the more that you're

807
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 1: keeping things towards the outside, and this is again for

808
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 1: the fans who are still you know, getting their feet

809
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 1: wet here in this game at the NHL level, the

810
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: more you can keep pucks out of the middle, the

811
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:13,839
Speaker 1: better off you were going to be in the penalty kill.

812
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: I thought virtually ate that exam last night.

813
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, there were a couple of broken sticks, there were

814
00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 6: a couple of missed opportunities, but you know, missed opportunities

815
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 6: are puck luck as well. But you're right, Mike, a

816
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:26,840
Speaker 6: lot a lot of the opportunities did come from the

817
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 6: perimeter on the power play, and that's not mistake that

818
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 6: that's penalty killers working their butts off to make sure

819
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:37,160
Speaker 6: puck stated the outside, make sure that passes aren't getting through,

820
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:38,800
Speaker 6: and I thought they did a good job with it

821
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 6: last night. Unfortunately, it was even strength that ended up

822
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 6: winning the game for Buffalo.

823
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and I al are a bit surprised that

824
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: that game was decided at even strength. But you go

825
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: back to the whole week three games. Last week, you're

826
00:39:51,880 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 2: seven of nine on the PK. You go four of

827
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 2: fourteen on the power play. I mean, I your make strides.

828
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 2: You're starting to turn the proverbial corner. I've always been

829
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 2: a big believer of I'd rather have a strong penalty

830
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 2: kill overf had to pick one, I'll go zero for

831
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 2: forty on the power play. If I go forty to

832
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:19,120
Speaker 2: forty on the PK. You know, I think that getting

833
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 2: a strong penalty kill and not having four or five, six, seven,

834
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 2: eight games in a role of the power play goal

835
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: allowed I think, to me that's more important. You know,

836
00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 2: we talk a lot about five on five offense anyway,

837
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,400
Speaker 2: but I think the PK is going in the right direction.

838
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,960
Speaker 2: The power play as is, with a lot of teams,

839
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 2: it comes and goes, it's hot, it's cold. But recently

840
00:40:42,640 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 2: again last week four power play goals, four and two

841
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 2: power play goals against special teams. Wise, I would say

842
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 2: this is probably one of the better weeks of the season.

843
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: For the krackend And you had to I think also

844
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: factor in Shop volume two, and I can't help to

845
00:40:55,680 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: think of the Chandler Stevenson goal, which is exhibit a

846
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,799
Speaker 1: of that. You win the face off, you get Jordan

847
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:03,320
Speaker 1: Eberley or anybody else going right toward the front of

848
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: the net, and all Chandler Stevenson has to do is

849
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,640
Speaker 1: shoot the puck because if goalie can't stop with the

850
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,640
Speaker 1: goalie can see and every give him credit set a

851
00:41:12,680 --> 00:41:13,520
Speaker 1: great screen.

852
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 2: And lanth And Lane said O good and Lane said

853
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 2: it like Lane said it a couple couple weeks ago

854
00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: in his comments and to the media, he wants the

855
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 2: guys to shoot more. He wants the guys to be

856
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:28,719
Speaker 2: a little bit more selfish in that regard. So back

857
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: in the five to three loss to Utah, the crack

858
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,319
Speaker 2: And had thirty seven shots, thirty three in the win

859
00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 2: against the La Kings twenty four last night, you go

860
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:42,440
Speaker 2: back three their last six games they've had thirty or

861
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: more shots, and they've had twenty five or more shots

862
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,279
Speaker 2: in two, four, six, seven of the last eight. So

863
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 2: I mean they're they're getting they're getting the volume there.

864
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:59,000
Speaker 2: They also have some really good goaltending performances against uh

865
00:41:59,200 --> 00:42:02,600
Speaker 2: in the last handful nights as well. How it's lying yesterday,

866
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 2: I mean, that was one of the better performances I

867
00:42:05,719 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: think we've seen in the last couple of weeks here

868
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 2: against Seattle Gold.

869
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: Anywise, looking ahead here, and this is where it gets busy,

870
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,279
Speaker 1: and we mentioned last night this is kind of getting

871
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: into treacherous danger zone territory in that you've got five

872
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: games coming up which will end a week from Tuesday,

873
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,400
Speaker 1: and you had and we'll we'll cover more of this

874
00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: here on the next Crack and Weekly heading into what

875
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 1: we'll be back to back with Anaheim and the Kings

876
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,319
Speaker 1: as well. But tomorrow night, guys, it just doesn't get

877
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,800
Speaker 1: much tougher. Colorado's a wagon and then you have that

878
00:42:39,920 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: four game road trip opening up against Calgary and they've

879
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: caught up to the Kraken, and then you have San

880
00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 1: Jose who is feeling so good about themselves, maybe unlike

881
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,400
Speaker 1: any other year, going all the way back to prime

882
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:55,920
Speaker 1: Thornton and Marlowe years after Macklin, Celebrini, will Smith and

883
00:42:56,000 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 1: company pulled off that massive comeback against Pittsburgh. So I

884
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:04,040
Speaker 1: think depending upon how health shakes out, assuming folks, everyone

885
00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 1: everyone is healthy here A, do you expect any lineup

886
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 1: changes even with Mason Marshman back in practice and Jacob

887
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,200
Speaker 1: Allanson still here? And then b You've got right now

888
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 1: six points on the table. Next three games is four

889
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 1: points enough?

890
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,800
Speaker 6: Listen, there's still an ace in the pocket for Seattle.

891
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 6: But if they if they don't play it correctly, they're

892
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 6: going to bust. And that's the games in hand. At

893
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 6: thirty games played, all the teams above them have games

894
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,600
Speaker 6: ahead of them, and I would say they're probably going

895
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,280
Speaker 6: to make those up in January, and they've got seventeen games,

896
00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,440
Speaker 6: but that's the eight in the pocket. They've got to

897
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,280
Speaker 6: take advantage of that to go chase chase the teams

898
00:43:47,280 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 6: above them. Yeah, Calgary is at thirty points now as well.

899
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,160
Speaker 6: They've moved up. I'm less concerned about the people below

900
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 6: them and more concerned about the people above them that

901
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 6: they take advantage with those games in hand and the

902
00:43:58,239 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 6: games coming up on this road trip, and obviously the

903
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 6: game against Colorado, they've got to play perfect to to

904
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,279
Speaker 6: Lane's point in Colorado to give themselves a chance. And

905
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 6: by perfect, I mean defensively perfect, right, Like, if they

906
00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,759
Speaker 6: take this game, like the Islander game, to zero zero

907
00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:17,880
Speaker 6: after sixty minutes and win or losing overtime, that's a

908
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 6: win in in my book against this Colorado team right now.

909
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,720
Speaker 6: So they've got to play a perfect game against Colorado.

910
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 6: But all the other ones, they are games that if

911
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 6: they play above average, if they play an eight out

912
00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 6: of ten, they'll put themselves in a position to get

913
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 6: points and or win games.

914
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 2: You know, everyone talks about Colorado. They've struggled as of late.

915
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:39,799
Speaker 2: They're only seven to one and two in their last

916
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: ten games.

917
00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: I'll break up the Avalanche, now break them up?

918
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 2: Yeah? Well, I mean listen, is what eight points this week?

919
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,440
Speaker 2: I mean six points on the table?

920
00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:53,920
Speaker 1: He ever? Is there a way to slip up?

921
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:56,479
Speaker 6: Yeah?

922
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,359
Speaker 1: I mean that's my scientific question here of the day.

923
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,000
Speaker 1: Is possible to slip up?

924
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah? Why not?

925
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: Right?

926
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 2: I mean, listen, the Kraken I'm gonna, I'm gonna the

927
00:45:09,640 --> 00:45:11,799
Speaker 2: Avalanche game is gonna be tarp is gonna be hard.

928
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: That's gonna be a tough game. The Avalanche have a

929
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 2: plus fifty four goal differential. They are ten two and

930
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 2: five on the road, They've won their last two, They've

931
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: got points in nine of their last ten, twenty three

932
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 2: to two and seven overall. I mean, they're on their

933
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,879
Speaker 2: way to a President's Trophy and had a long playoff run.

934
00:45:30,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 2: But it's Calgary and it's San Jose that the Kraken

935
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: needs to be focused on. Not only are they in division,

936
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 2: San Jose's five points ahead of them Calgary right now

937
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:42,840
Speaker 2: with them at thirty points, They've got the three games

938
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,520
Speaker 2: in hand on Calgary, they've got three games in hand

939
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 2: on San Jose as well. So you win this game,

940
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 2: you're putting yourself in a really good position to have success.

941
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 2: But I will say this too, like six points on

942
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 2: the table, give me five, give me four. Calgary and Santjose.

943
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: You have to win those games and if you can

944
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 2: get back to that defensive structure that we've seen so

945
00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,800
Speaker 2: much this season. You know, again the Winnipeg game in Winnipeg,

946
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 2: that first Edmonton game here at home, both Dallas games

947
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: as well. You've played really good teams this season. Tough defensively,

948
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 2: and there's no reason why you can't do that again

949
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 2: here tomorrow night with the Avalanche. It doesn't need to

950
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: be a five to four game. Tomorrow is one of

951
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,959
Speaker 2: those games where if it's a two to one game,

952
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 2: you're happy with that. If you lose an overtime, or

953
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: if you win tomorrow night, it doesn't need to be,

954
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: you know, a five to six to seven goal game.

955
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,480
Speaker 2: This can be a two to three goal game total

956
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: and you're happy. So I think for Seattle you got

957
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 2: to keep it simple. For tomorrow against the Aps, you

958
00:46:48,640 --> 00:46:50,839
Speaker 2: got to keep it simple. You know they're gonna push.

959
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: You know they're gonna try and run the score up.

960
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:56,919
Speaker 2: It's what we've seen them do all year long. They're

961
00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 2: an offensive wagon and you can't get sucked in.

962
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:03,000
Speaker 1: Shall we get to our three stars? Al you want

963
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:03,479
Speaker 1: to go first?

964
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:06,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, let me rotchet them off. My third star, Maddy Bee.

965
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,759
Speaker 6: The tying goal in the LA game was huge. I

966
00:47:09,800 --> 00:47:11,719
Speaker 6: thought that was awesome. You had five shots on goal

967
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 6: in that game as well. My second star and given

968
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 6: to Vince Done. He had three points as well in

969
00:47:17,400 --> 00:47:20,120
Speaker 6: that game, one goal to assists. And then my first

970
00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 6: star and then probably going to be on other other

971
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 6: lists as well. Channer Stevenson points in five straight in

972
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:28,480
Speaker 6: that Buffalo loss. He had the power play goal, sixty

973
00:47:29,480 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 6: two shots on goal, and two hits that stood out.

974
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 6: These weren't like bump into you hits, as were put

975
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,279
Speaker 6: guys on their back hits. It really impressed me. So

976
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:37,560
Speaker 6: he's my number one star.

977
00:47:37,960 --> 00:47:40,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, those are all good. I think my third star,

978
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go Jacob Altson. You know, I know he

979
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,120
Speaker 2: only played the one game, but he was hitting everything

980
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 2: that moved. He brought some energy to the lineup against

981
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,120
Speaker 2: you know, a very good Buffalo team the other night,

982
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: had a couple of good scoring chances. I felt maybe

983
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:00,359
Speaker 2: should have had his first NHL goal. Yeah, yes, today.

984
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go with Malonson as my third star.

985
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:04,520
Speaker 2: Number two was.

986
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 1: Hard for me.

987
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:07,879
Speaker 2: It was a toss up, and I think I'm gonna

988
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 2: cheat here. I'm gonna go Maddie and Jordan, Maddy and

989
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 2: every For for my second star combined, just because again

990
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 2: leading by example, you know, Jordan every With with three

991
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 2: points on the week or two points in the week

992
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 2: rather but again just keeping keeping everything cool, calm and keel.

993
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 2: I like Vince Dunn's game as well. But I'm gonna

994
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 2: go Ebbs in Maddie and then my number one star

995
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,839
Speaker 2: Chandler Stevenson. Five game point Street continues to be your

996
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 2: top face off man continues to you know, skate well

997
00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 2: and do everything right. He draws every team's toughest matchups.

998
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 2: Chandler Stevenson. I've got his minutes numbers right here. So

999
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 2: against Buffalo nineteen twenty six, he played twenty two to

1000
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 2: fifteen against Utah twenty one, twenty two against the La Kings.

1001
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: You know that every time McKinnon and McCay are are

1002
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: on the ice tomorrow night, number nine is not going

1003
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 2: to be far behind. So he's he's gearing up for

1004
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:08,880
Speaker 2: a tough night as well. So I'm gonna give him

1005
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 2: a number one Star of the week.

1006
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,439
Speaker 1: My three stars don't differentiate much, and I'm not trying

1007
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,640
Speaker 1: to copy off your guys' homework here on this, but

1008
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: I think just kind of, you know, it's more or

1009
00:49:18,239 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: less wresify.

1010
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,480
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm all shifty eye, Mike Benton.

1011
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: They pay no attention. I'm only looking toward the opposite

1012
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:32,400
Speaker 1: wall here. My third star will be Jacob Alanson and

1013
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,120
Speaker 1: granted It's only been one game, but I echo a

1014
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: lot as far as what you said fits and what

1015
00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:41,120
Speaker 1: Al said earlier as well. He just plays with a

1016
00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,520
Speaker 1: mean streak. He plays with abrasiveness, and he plays with

1017
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: no fear. And ultimately, I think for me coming in

1018
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:51,400
Speaker 1: for a game like he had on Sunday and for

1019
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,760
Speaker 1: a team partially that was dragged down with natural causes,

1020
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:59,320
Speaker 1: with with with with energy, others dragged down with illness,

1021
00:50:00,160 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 1: this was a jolt of energy and a jolt of

1022
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:08,800
Speaker 1: life that they desperately needed. Seven hits in seven minutes

1023
00:50:08,840 --> 00:50:13,600
Speaker 1: and forty seven seconds of ice time. That ratio, my goodness. Now,

1024
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,560
Speaker 1: you're not gonna ask him to get Chandler Stevenson numbers

1025
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: Maddy Benier's numbers here with ice time. He's a role player.

1026
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,280
Speaker 1: But when you have a guy playing on your fourth

1027
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:27,520
Speaker 1: line and a young guy coming up who is going

1028
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,280
Speaker 1: out with just one simple mindset and it is attack,

1029
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:38,000
Speaker 1: an attack with physicality. Teams that can manufacture that kind

1030
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,840
Speaker 1: of energy and that kind of insertion and have that

1031
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:46,399
Speaker 1: and see has spread within a very very infectious level,

1032
00:50:47,120 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 1: those are teams that will go next tier. And you

1033
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:53,520
Speaker 1: only hope from a game like that where He is

1034
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:57,320
Speaker 1: coming in and playing the body with reckless abandon to

1035
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 1: the point where he's not taking penalties here. But he's

1036
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,799
Speaker 1: doing this to set a tone that is so invaluable

1037
00:51:03,920 --> 00:51:05,879
Speaker 1: right now, in my goodness, if we have just begun

1038
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,239
Speaker 1: to scratch the surface of what Jacob Allanson can be

1039
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 1: for an NHL team, Seattle is in for retreat. I mean, folks,

1040
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: you all love legion of boom back in the Pete

1041
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:18,080
Speaker 1: Carroll era. You like what Mike McDonald's you're doing with

1042
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:22,640
Speaker 1: the Seahawks offense. Right now, Jacob Allanson plays the high

1043
00:51:22,760 --> 00:51:26,840
Speaker 1: level of boom and that is an incredible ingredient that

1044
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 1: can make a difference here on this team, and the

1045
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 1: more and more that guys can follow, that's got transformation ability.

1046
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: My second star is Matty Beniers And for me, I

1047
00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: think what capped this off was the game tying goal

1048
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: against the Kings. It was leadership stuff. But again, he's

1049
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: coming in with a game that has really evolved on

1050
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:53,480
Speaker 1: a two way scale. He was great last night against

1051
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:56,520
Speaker 1: Buffalo with a face off circle. He didn't score, but

1052
00:51:56,600 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: had three shots on it, and I think, to me,

1053
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: that SHOT's going to come, And I think I thought

1054
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,719
Speaker 1: there was some times of practice, and granted it was

1055
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,279
Speaker 1: practiced earlier today on Monday, but you can really begin

1056
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: to see I think more assertiveness and I think more

1057
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: zip on that shot, which is going to be a

1058
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 1: useful weapon of five on five and additionally on the

1059
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 1: power play. But ultimately, of course, we know his role

1060
00:52:16,120 --> 00:52:19,040
Speaker 1: as a center is to distribute the puck and I

1061
00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:22,640
Speaker 1: think again for the kind of shift that the crack

1062
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 1: had needed to snatch victory from jaws of the feet

1063
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:30,120
Speaker 1: against the Kings. Matt Ebaneers made the on brand play

1064
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:33,360
Speaker 1: with how this team has got a manufacture offense, putting

1065
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: a body right in the shot lane, right toward the

1066
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:39,919
Speaker 1: front of the net. Words that we have uttered ad

1067
00:52:40,040 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 1: nausea over and over and over on the broadcast and

1068
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,640
Speaker 1: this podcast, but Matti Beaneers did it. That's why he

1069
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,160
Speaker 1: wears an a on his jersey. That's what leadership does

1070
00:52:51,640 --> 00:52:55,080
Speaker 1: to get things done to make a comeback possible. My

1071
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 1: first star is Chandler Stephenson, and you can see his

1072
00:52:58,440 --> 00:53:00,600
Speaker 1: game begin to really turn a owner here and go

1073
00:53:00,760 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 1: next level. The five game point street fits as you mentioned,

1074
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:07,800
Speaker 1: getting top end guys over and over and over, and

1075
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,360
Speaker 1: I think that matchup with Nathan McKinnon is going to

1076
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:11,960
Speaker 1: be one of the top story lines I think for

1077
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:15,080
Speaker 1: Tomorrow night and the face offs. He was a rock

1078
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:18,960
Speaker 1: star at the dot again against Buffalo ten wins in

1079
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,479
Speaker 1: eighteen draws that he took as well. But for me also,

1080
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,400
Speaker 1: the power play goal is something I would love to

1081
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: see more from him. It's simple play driving ability. We

1082
00:53:29,160 --> 00:53:32,040
Speaker 1: all know that he can distribute, but his shot is

1083
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: very effective. Think of it there. Think of it when

1084
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 1: the crack and beat Saint Louis last year nearly at

1085
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 1: the buzzer, when Stevenson scored that goal as well. That

1086
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,920
Speaker 1: is a very effective shot he possesses and I think

1087
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 1: again potentially a key that can help unlock more of

1088
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 1: the door for power play production on this team. He

1089
00:53:53,920 --> 00:53:57,440
Speaker 1: plays the flank, that shot is a useful weapon and

1090
00:53:57,560 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: that's something I think we're seeing out of Stevenson's game game,

1091
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: besides the other attributes, which I think put him to

1092
00:54:03,920 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: the forefront this week and is going to make him

1093
00:54:06,440 --> 00:54:09,720
Speaker 1: a very critical piece of getting this thing record wise.

1094
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:12,879
Speaker 1: You turn and what's going to be a very very

1095
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,279
Speaker 1: very important week coming up tomorrow night and then to

1096
00:54:17,400 --> 00:54:18,680
Speaker 1: launch the four game road trip.

1097
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:23,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna need You're gonna need everybody. And and listen,

1098
00:54:24,160 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 2: I think the compact, the compact schedule can be a

1099
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 2: blessing or it can be a curse. I think when

1100
00:54:30,360 --> 00:54:33,120
Speaker 2: you're winning, you want to keep the momentum going, you

1101
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 2: want to keep the good vibes going. But when you're losing,

1102
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,359
Speaker 2: when you're when you're struggling and you're slumping, it can

1103
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:42,919
Speaker 2: be kind of a man when we just need a break,

1104
00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 2: we need to to fix something. We don't have enough

1105
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 2: time to do this. That and the third But also

1106
00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:49,800
Speaker 2: I think it could be a third thing. And I

1107
00:54:49,880 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 2: think it can also just be you know what, we're

1108
00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,759
Speaker 2: going to force this through. And and Laye Lambert has

1109
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:56,960
Speaker 2: said multiple times, you know, guys, got a man up.

1110
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,480
Speaker 2: We have to do more. We need more from everybody.

1111
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 1: This is pull up your Bootstrafts territory now, man.

1112
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1113
00:55:03,320 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 2: No, And then and like we're not saying anything that

1114
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,360
Speaker 2: the players haven't said. We're not saying anything that the

1115
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:12,880
Speaker 2: coaching staff hasn't said. This isn't us throwing shade and

1116
00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:16,320
Speaker 2: talking smack like we're we're taking their words. So you know,

1117
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,839
Speaker 2: don't come at us. But you know, there there, there

1118
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 2: is more that that they can give. There is more

1119
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 2: that they need to give. I go back to the

1120
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,759
Speaker 2: hit on Vince Done. I go back to Malonson's great

1121
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:34,279
Speaker 2: game the other night. I mean, if if you come

1122
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:41,440
Speaker 2: out hitting tomorrow, good teams, elite level teams hate being disrupted.

1123
00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,359
Speaker 2: They hate being hit, they hate being thrown off their game.

1124
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 2: Right now, Nathan McKinnon is a tough superstar, right, I mean,

1125
00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:53,480
Speaker 2: Cale mccarr is a tough superstar. But you need to

1126
00:55:53,560 --> 00:55:57,320
Speaker 2: be in their kitchen all night long. It's it's gonna

1127
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 2: be a hard game. It's gonna be a painful game.

1128
00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:02,040
Speaker 2: And they're there's a lot of illness and sickness and

1129
00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 2: injury going around the room. But we've said it before

1130
00:56:05,120 --> 00:56:06,880
Speaker 2: a lot of other teams that are dealing with it.

1131
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:09,880
Speaker 2: Two Connor bdard Uh for Chicago. They just announced that

1132
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:12,680
Speaker 2: he's gonna be out till at least January, you know,

1133
00:56:12,880 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 2: so there, they're there. Every team is going through it

1134
00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:18,880
Speaker 2: right now. Every team, especially this year, will continue to

1135
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,160
Speaker 2: go through it. But but you're gonna need everyone. And

1136
00:56:22,280 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go back to another phrase that we say

1137
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,880
Speaker 2: all the time in hockey. Your best players need to

1138
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:36,560
Speaker 2: be your best players. Right, every Stevenson Benier's uh tolding done,

1139
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:43,279
Speaker 2: Larsen montor uh Shane Wright like those guys need to

1140
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:47,320
Speaker 2: be those guys, and and that is how this team's

1141
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 2: gonna have success this week.

1142
00:56:49,239 --> 00:56:51,719
Speaker 1: Hanging in there right now, no illness got the night,

1143
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:53,279
Speaker 1: will load it up just in case.

1144
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 2: Brother, listen, man, I I'm in a good little uh

1145
00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 2: knock on wood here, I'm gonna say here, a good little,

1146
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,480
Speaker 2: good little run. I had a little bit of a.

1147
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:08,960
Speaker 1: Scratchy hanging out my home home studio right now. I'm

1148
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:09,839
Speaker 1: just knocking on right now.

1149
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,320
Speaker 2: I had, I had a little bit of a dry mouth,

1150
00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: dry voice when I woke up on Friday in Utah.

1151
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 2: That mountain air got to me. But uh, you know,

1152
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,800
Speaker 2: other other than an extra cup of tea and some

1153
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,680
Speaker 2: extra cough drops, we're we're doing pretty good. We're doing

1154
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 2: pretty good. So again, knock on wood, thankfully. And my

1155
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 2: wife is ten feet away from me, so I can't

1156
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 2: say this too loud. Thankfully. I was out of town,

1157
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: so I didn't catch that. But we're doing okay over

1158
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 2: this way.

1159
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:45,080
Speaker 1: By the way, I think you have trash duty also,

1160
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:45,680
Speaker 1: is that right.

1161
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 2: Oh buddy?

1162
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:46,600
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1163
00:57:46,640 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 2: Uh huh, yep. I absolutely.

1164
00:57:49,840 --> 00:57:53,320
Speaker 1: Not in agreements so much where that that's nod was

1165
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: so hard it might have cause a draft in the room.

1166
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what, brother, there are times when I'll

1167
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 2: get well at home. So our trash day is Thursday.

1168
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 2: We'll get home from a road trip two o'clock in

1169
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 2: the morning and there's the trash can sitting outside. Can

1170
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:12,240
Speaker 2: you hear me just rolling it up? Or the other

1171
00:58:12,280 --> 00:58:14,360
Speaker 2: week I come take the trash out. My neighbor across

1172
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,480
Speaker 2: the street was like, thank goodness, my wife would have

1173
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,520
Speaker 2: been all over me if I hadn't taken out my

1174
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,080
Speaker 2: trash this week because he heard me bringing my hands

1175
00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 2: up and I was like, who do you think reminded me?

1176
00:58:24,920 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 2: So thanks to the missus for that one.

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00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: Thank you to the better has because again I know,

1178
00:58:29,640 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 1: after I've been gone for X amount of days, I hear,

1179
00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:36,440
Speaker 1: of course from the beautiful missus, mama needs a break. Holiay,

1180
00:58:36,440 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 1: break's coming. We're looking forward to this here. That's all

1181
00:58:39,400 --> 00:58:41,080
Speaker 1: the time we have, though. Big thank you again to

1182
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: Scott Laughlin for joining us, Everett al myself. We can't

1183
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,240
Speaker 1: appreciate these guys en up here for the conversation and

1184
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: certainly yours as well on talking cracking each night, looking

1185
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,160
Speaker 1: forward Tomorrow night, can the Cracking pull together here against

1186
00:58:54,160 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: the top team in the NHL six point thirty airtime,

1187
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 1: seven o'clock drop of the puck. After that, Thursday at Calgary,

1188
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:04,479
Speaker 1: Saturday at San Jose. We'll talk to you soon once again,

1189
00:59:04,640 --> 00:59:07,560
Speaker 1: for ever written, Al, I might see you. You're home

1190
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