1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:05,080 Speaker 1: Borrow is back and he plays here on ESPN fifteen thirty, 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:16,120 Speaker 1: the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals. 3 00:00:12,560 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: Six twenty one on seven hundred WLW at ESPN fifteen thirty. 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 2: Cincinnati Tax Resolution Power by Tope Sheldon, Round Table Show, 5 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,640 Speaker 2: Long Necks and hebron brought to you in Park by 6 00:00:21,720 --> 00:00:25,280 Speaker 2: Hawksworth Blood Centers, Hawksworth Donors, Saved Lives Close to Home. 7 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 3: Who Will You Save? 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Rocker opening segment talking about Joe Burrow is the hot 9 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:31,159 Speaker 2: topic of the week around the NFL. Brought to you 10 00:00:31,200 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 2: by Hudson Oil Fueling Champions, Fueling champions on and off 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 2: the field, Hudson Oil. Let's keep the hot topic conversation 12 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 2: going with our next guest, who's been all over it 13 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: this week. He covers the Bengals for clnscincywithy dot Com, 14 00:00:46,960 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: host of the Jungle Roar podcast on YouTube. He's the 15 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 2: man they call Trags, Mike Petrallion Trags. In the first segment, 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 2: we played the exchange in your question to Joe yesterday 17 00:00:56,920 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 2: was a it was a money question. It was a 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 2: money recent bonds and how Joe Burrow answered your question 19 00:01:02,880 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 2: about what he would say to others is exactly what 20 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: you want from the face of your franchise, isn't it? 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: It is? 22 00:01:10,440 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 4: And I just think that's his way of showing leadership. 23 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 4: And he knows that there is something left to prove 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:19,800 Speaker 4: in this season. Whether or not you think the Bengals 25 00:01:19,840 --> 00:01:23,280 Speaker 4: are capable of running off six straight wins and staying 26 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 4: relevant in. 27 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: The AFC North race is not the issue to him. 28 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 3: The issue is. 29 00:01:28,840 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 4: I've got to play each and every game. 30 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 3: I think we have a chance to win a game, 31 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 3: and that. 32 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:36,479 Speaker 4: Is what I'm getting paid a lot of money to do. 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 4: And he's not obtuse. He's not oblivious to the role 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 4: that he serves. 35 00:01:43,560 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 3: On the team, in the franchise. 36 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 4: He is totally aware that he's a historic figure in 37 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 4: the Bengals. 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: History already just based. 39 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,560 Speaker 4: On a fifty five million dollar annual contract. So he 40 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 4: knows that there's an obligation to go out and play 41 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 4: when he can play fully healthy, and he believes, for 42 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 4: all intents and purposes, he is with the toe heeled. 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: He needs to go out. 44 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 4: And lead the team to a win, a win they 45 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 4: desperately need. They've lost four straight, eight of nine. All 46 00:02:14,520 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 4: nine of those games came without Joe Burrow as starting quarterback. 47 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 3: You want some good news. 48 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: The Bengals guys are on a The Bengals are on 49 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 4: a seven game winning streak with Burrow as the starting quarterback. 50 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:28,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, there you go. 51 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 5: Well we'll play to that, So tryon. I've been saying 52 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:35,720 Speaker 5: all week, I'm fine with Joe Burrow playing as long 53 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 5: as there's no restrictions on him. You know, like, well, 54 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 5: we got to cut this from the playbook and we 55 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 5: don't want him to roll out. What's your indication is 56 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 5: that going to be the case? That is going to 57 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 5: be full on Joe Burrow, no restrictions. 58 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 3: So that's a great question, Rocky. 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: And the only bit of trepidation I had yesterday during 60 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 4: the Borough news conference was when he was asked that 61 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 4: very question. He's like, well, we'll see, and I'm like, okay, Well, 62 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 4: that to me is not a great sign because maybe 63 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:09,800 Speaker 4: he tries to do I think what he's saying there 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 4: is he knows he needs to get rid of the 65 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 4: ball faster, and maybe that alters the way he plays 66 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,320 Speaker 4: the game a little bit, and maybe that it is 67 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 4: his tip of the cap that I can't sit back 68 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 4: in the pocket and continue to take hits like I 69 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: did when I got injured against Jacksonville. That can't happen anymore. 70 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 4: So maybe that's what he's saying. But I do believe 71 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,920 Speaker 4: that he feels one hundred percent healthy. The only soreness 72 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: he had last week after the two full practices on 73 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 4: Wednesday and Thursday. And he told me this when I 74 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 4: asked him, was. 75 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 3: General body soreness. Well, you would expect. 76 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 4: That when you haven't had full NFL practice in the. 77 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 3: Middle of the week in ten weeks, that's going to happen. 78 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 4: And certainly I think he could have played, no question 79 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 4: on Sunday against the Patriots. But Zach Taylor read that differently. 80 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,600 Speaker 4: He was like, well, if he's still sore, I don't 81 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 4: want him on the field. And that's where I think 82 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 4: there is some legitimate criticism of the decision that Bengals 83 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 4: made not to play him, because had Burrow played that 84 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 4: game last week, I do think, and I know many 85 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 4: have argued, they could have won that game. And then 86 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:23,160 Speaker 4: you're talking about a team that is coming into Baltimore 87 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,760 Speaker 4: four and seven. 88 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 3: Not three and eight. 89 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: Trag's you're around this group, you talked with him this week. 90 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 2: Is it is it fair to say there is a 91 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: different vibe. Is there a collective bounce of the step 92 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 2: of this locker room. 93 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, there's no question there's a different vibe, and the guys, 94 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:47,119 Speaker 4: especially the players, can feel it. I know certainly. Chase 95 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 4: Brown made reference to that early in the week on Monday. 96 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 4: He said, Look, when Joe's in the room, we all 97 00:04:53,320 --> 00:04:56,919 Speaker 4: know we've got a chance. He has a certain expectation 98 00:04:57,080 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: of us to go out and perform, and we usually 99 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 4: respond to that expectation. Jamar Chase has always said that, 100 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 4: and I think there's an expectation throughout the building that 101 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,359 Speaker 4: this team is going to go out and play to 102 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 4: a different level on Thursday night Tomorrow night. I will 103 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 4: also add this before I forget, let's not forget about 104 00:05:20,640 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 4: the improvement of the defense over the last two weeks. 105 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 4: They allowed twenty points to the Steelers and they allowed 106 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 4: nineteen points to the Patriots. Those are not bad numbers, 107 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 4: especially to the Patriots, and when you take a look 108 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 4: at the way the Ravens have been playing offensively lately, 109 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,279 Speaker 4: it ain't great and Lamar Jackson is not putting up 110 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 4: the numbers that he has in years past. If the 111 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 4: defense can continue its momentum, continue to play like it 112 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: has shown over the last couple of weeks. The Bengals 113 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:54,720 Speaker 4: definitely have a fighters chance tomorrow night. 114 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 5: So me, let's elaborate on the defense, because I agree 115 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 5: they have been better or certainly last week in your 116 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 5: conversations with the team. What do you attribute that to? 117 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 5: Is that an under better understanding of the of the 118 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 5: scheme by some guys like Barrett Carter had sixteen tackles 119 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 5: last week? Is that more of a will of one 120 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 5: to two and guys frankly getting pissed off and getting 121 00:06:18,440 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 5: tired of people making fun of them for not being 122 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 5: tough and tackling or is it just an experienced level? 123 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 4: Is it it's more of the latter, Rocky, I think 124 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 4: it's guys finally saying enough is enough. But what leads 125 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,839 Speaker 4: to that, well, just saying screw it and going out 126 00:06:34,880 --> 00:06:38,600 Speaker 4: on the field and playing faster. And several guys, including 127 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: Chris Jenkins Junior, told me that the team is playing 128 00:06:42,520 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 4: with a lot more aggressiveness and speed and not worrying about, 129 00:06:48,880 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 4: you know, where their exact position. 130 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 3: Is along the defensive line. 131 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:58,119 Speaker 4: They're just saying I'm gonna take my spot and bull 132 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: rush forward. I'm not gonna worry about anything else except 133 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 4: playing my position, my responsibility, and you know, it's kind 134 00:07:05,680 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 4: of a different take on do your job, but that's 135 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 4: what the Bengals defense has been doing it certainly along 136 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 4: the defensive line, and I think those two defensive stops 137 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: they got in the red zone last week against the 138 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,480 Speaker 4: Patriots are critical to the. 139 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 3: Confidence of the unit. 140 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 4: I think they know that they can stop a very 141 00:07:27,080 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 4: high powered and very capable Patriots offense from scoring one 142 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 4: touchdown in nine tries inside the ten yard line and 143 00:07:35,840 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 4: then hold them to a field goal inside the two 144 00:07:39,160 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 4: yard line in another key situation in the fourth quarter. 145 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: That can only give them confidence going forward. 146 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 2: Tregs, you continue pumping out the tremendous contents. 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