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Speaker 1: I had two things to these. These are common man problems,

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Speaker 2: The chili, I think, which is a turkey chili, very

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Speaker 2: then I did that for a minute, putting the vegetables

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Speaker 2: Really, these are the things we have to deal with

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we talked about it last week. With the Wild

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick, the eight times Super Bowl winning head coach,

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Speaker 2: And it's like, dude, quit trying to attract attention to yourself.

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Speaker 1: Really well, it's even more worse that it's football, right,

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Speaker 1: like in the NFL, doesn't doesn't seem like the five

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Speaker 5: I agree question number three. It's time now for so

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Speaker 1: First football schedule was released yesterday. Here it is. They

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Speaker 1: begin Big Big eighteen. Play at Washington, home to Michigan,

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Speaker 1: at Purdue, home to Iowa, at Indiana, home to UCLA,

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Speaker 1: How will the U fair next season? No the on

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Speaker 1: the schedule, No the but Michigan, Penn State and apparently

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Speaker 1: The Mississippi State is actually a yeah, they're a Power

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm going to give the I'm going to give

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Speaker 1: Home to Michigan, that's an L. At Purdue that's a W.

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Speaker 1: At Indiana, that's an L home to U C.

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Speaker 1: Let's go with another W. Wow, you're very optimistic. At

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Speaker 1: Penn State, that's an L home to Northwestern.

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Speaker 1: At Wisconsin, that's a WY like Nino.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I'm a homer man. Then we get an extended

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Speaker 1: I can't be nine and four if we get is

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Speaker 1: Is the losses?

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Speaker 2: I'm just going to Washington. That's what I'm gonna go with.

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Speaker 2: I mean, put it this way. I reserve the right

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Speaker 2: Don't they have those disclaimers on things where you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like this is not a very favorable schedule.

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Speaker 1: I think you had them been like eight and four.

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Speaker 2: four and eight. No, I just spit my chili out

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Speaker 2: So what's happened? Let's go six and six and get

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Speaker 2: up another bowl game. Oh, I, you know what I

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Speaker 2: like better, Let's go five and seven and then get

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Speaker 2: a bid because of our grades.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the grades.

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Speaker 2: One that's so good.

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Speaker 1: All I know is you're looking at twelve games. I'm

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Speaker 3: Uh, it's time now for the controversial question of the day.

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Speaker 1: This one's very controversial. Common Which cartoon character would you

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Speaker 2: That's off, folks, Maybe boy, that's a really that's man.

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Speaker 2: see my t shirts. It's Mordecai and Rigby are the stars.

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Speaker 2: Tenneby, do you have that uh twenty five thousand dollars pyramid?

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Speaker 6: For some reason, I was thinking about like performances, because

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Speaker 1: Really?

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Speaker 6: They wrote catchy rock numbers that sounded great when they

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Speaker 6: Songwriters Hall of Fame because if I am an obnoxious

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Speaker 6: and who they're letting in there. And if it's Kiss,

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Speaker 6: then probably Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: I've got another interesting story too about how and we'll

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Speaker 2: talk about on the other side of the break how

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Speaker 2: and we've seen this happen, like, for instance, with remember

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Speaker 2: When Dreams by Fleetwood Mac. That was nineteen seventy seven,

442
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Speaker 2: right then, all of a sudden, was it five six

443
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Speaker 2: years ago? On skateboarder Guy with the Cranberry Juice, that

444
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Speaker 2: song suddenly vaults.

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Speaker 1: Into the you know, he became like a top twenty song.

446
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Speaker 1: It went viral, Baby went viral.

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Speaker 2: Same thing with another Fleetwood Mac so I remember when

448
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Speaker 2: the Chevrolet commercial had everywhere, uh huh and same thing.

449
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Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the kids had never heard that,

450
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Speaker 2: and why would they nineteen eighty seven? Right, you're not

451
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Speaker 2: diving deep into that song, did it? Another one has happened,

452
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Speaker 2: and I think this one is very interesting, So we'll

453
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Speaker 2: take a look at that.

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Speaker 1: And I'm sure you have a topic or too. I

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Speaker 1: got a couple of things on the other side, and.

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Speaker 2: Of course we have Rock Rank that's coming as well,

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Speaker 2: So we'll take a break. We'll come back with more

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Speaker 2: of a rock talk here on the fan.

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Speaker 1: I want to chime in. What's happening with your favorite

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Speaker 1: kfan program. We'll make your voice heard on the Bradshaw

461
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Speaker 1: and Brian text line. Let us we have to say

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Speaker 1: by texting you messages six four six eighty six. That's

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Speaker 1: six four six eight six standard message data rates apply.

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Speaker 2: Tie mean what we high and lower?

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Speaker 1: Again?

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Speaker 2: Did you say? Is it six and nine?

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Speaker 1: Low of minus six? Tonight? Okay? High up nine tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Six and nine are the two numbers that are included

469
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Speaker 2: in what I think is one of the greatest song

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Speaker 2: titles of all time, Jimmy Hendrix. If six was nine, yeah,

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Speaker 2: this is brilliant.

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Speaker 1: It's funny.

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Speaker 6: You should mention that the record store that I worked

474
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Speaker 6: at part time, I do a little DJ set every

475
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Speaker 6: morning from ten until two, and that one's already in

476
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Speaker 6: the stack for this coming week. That song in particular,

477
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Speaker 6: I looked at a bunch of them, and it fit

478
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Speaker 6: the vibe, it fit the moment, and it reminds us

479
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Speaker 6: the crucial nature of waving our freak flag high. No

480
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Speaker 6: matter how old we are, no matter where we are

481
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Speaker 6: in life, be you, and be ridiculously you.

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Speaker 2: I just love if six was not because think about it.

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Speaker 2: If six was nine, that would be me. Nine is six.

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Speaker 6: It would all start the deep questions, well exactly in

485
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Speaker 6: a way though they are. I mean, if it turned

486
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Speaker 6: out that everything you thought you knew was a lie

487
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Speaker 6: and was not right and was somehow obsuscation or whatever.

488
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Speaker 6: He's like, I don't mind if it's six turns out

489
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Speaker 6: to be nine. I don't mind.

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Speaker 2: I got my own.

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Speaker 6: Life to live in and I ain't gonna copy you.

492
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Speaker 2: And brilliant now I love it. Here's my favorite title

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Speaker 2: of all time. Go on, I'm a cranky old yank

494
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Speaker 2: and a clanky old tank on the streets of Yokohama

495
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Speaker 2: with Mohnolulu mama doing the beat oh beat o blues.

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Speaker 1: Okay, it's a great time of a real song.

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Speaker 2: If you look up the Book of World Records when

498
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Speaker 2: you were a kid, did you have the Guinness Book

499
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Speaker 2: of World Record site? The greatest thing whatever?

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Speaker 6: Two fat cowboy brothers on their little motorcycles.

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Speaker 1: Oh so good? Exactly.

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Speaker 2: No, yes, And that is the longest title of a

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Speaker 2: song in the history of music. I'm a cranky old

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Speaker 2: yank in a clanky old tank on the streets of

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Speaker 2: Yokohama with my Honolulu mama singing the beat o beat

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Speaker 2: o blues.

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Speaker 1: Huh? Any idea on who the artists might have been there?

508
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Speaker 2: Who it is? And then by the time you get

509
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Speaker 2: through the title of the song, the song's over right,

510
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Speaker 2: because that's basically it.

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Speaker 1: They get to sing it once they get to sing it.

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Speaker 6: One.

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Speaker 1: Huh. Are you familiar with Jeff Buckley? I am? Oh

514
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Speaker 1: you are?

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Speaker 2: Did you see this story too, or did you know

516
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Speaker 2: him before the story that I just saw today?

517
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Speaker 5: Oh?

518
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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, no, no, no.

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Speaker 6: Jeff Buckley is a it's a tragic story, but his father,

520
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Speaker 6: Tim Buckley, was a lifelong singer songwriter, Folky popular guy.

521
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Speaker 6: Tim Buckley has more than a dozen records. Jeff Buckley

522
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Speaker 6: was coming along and making a name entirely for himself.

523
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Speaker 6: Was this very thoughtful, soulful singer songwriter. The kind of

524
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Speaker 6: songwriter and respect and critical claim that he got even

525
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Speaker 6: when he was still alive was kind of like what

526
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Speaker 6: John Mayer would like.

527
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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 6: He wrote these really emotional, big, atmospheric, sometimes orchestral songs,

529
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Speaker 6: and he was on the path to becoming genuinely I mean,

530
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Speaker 6: some would argue that he was already genuinely great, but

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Speaker 6: I mean in terms of legacy and widespread appeal and

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Speaker 6: you know, just awareness above him, he's a really really

533
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Speaker 6: important songwriter. And then tragically was outswimming one night and drowned.

534
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Speaker 6: But he Yeah, no, his music is revered. Grace is

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Speaker 6: an album that everyone should at least listen to if

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Speaker 6: they don't buy it.

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Speaker 2: That's why you're on rock Talk, because you knew all

538
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Speaker 2: of that. I had no idea. I stumbled across a

539
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Speaker 2: story that says this month, thirty years after his death,

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Speaker 2: the acclaimed singer songwriter Jeff Buckley landed on the Billboard

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Speaker 2: Hot one hundred for the very first time. That's what

542
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Speaker 2: I saw because of TikTok. It says what happened here

543
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Speaker 2: was almost twenty nine years after his passing. His song

544
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Speaker 2: Lover You Should Have Come Over, an emotional ballad from

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Speaker 2: his nineteen ninety four album, went viral on TikTok Uh

546
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Speaker 2: Huh Surgeon. Popularity, driven by a new generation of listeners

547
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Speaker 2: discovered his music, led the track to enter the Billboard

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Speaker 2: Hot one hundred at ninety seven this week. Buckley had

549
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Speaker 2: posthumous successes before, such as his iconic cover of Hallelujah.

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Speaker 2: This marked his first ever appearance on the main US

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Speaker 2: Top one hundred singles Start and TikTok doesn't figure into that.

552
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Speaker 2: But what happens is TikTok it goes viral and then

553
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Speaker 2: people do the streaming. Oh yeah, that's where it becomes.

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00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 2: But again, that's why I kind of compared it. Maybe

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Speaker 2: it's not exactly the same, but compared it to the

556
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Speaker 2: commercials with the song's dreams and everywhere. Yeah that and

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Speaker 2: I never and I listened to the song today and

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Speaker 2: it is it's well.

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Speaker 6: Then you get a vibe of what he was like, right,

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Speaker 6: I mean, he's very emotional. He was not unattractive to

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Speaker 6: people who liked him, which never hurts. But he was

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Speaker 6: really soulful, and he was really deep and by all

563
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Speaker 6: accounts a very very decent guy. And yeah, this is

564
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Speaker 6: just the latest and a long line of things that

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Speaker 6: have either gone viral on TikTok or before that age

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Speaker 6: there were people, you know, newer generations being turned onto

567
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Speaker 6: music that would be included in TV shows or television

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Speaker 6: commercials or movies television commercials, most notably being that sort

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Speaker 6: of you know, like the literally less known than Jeff Buckley,

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Speaker 6: British singer songwriter Nick Drake. He enjoyed a renaissance, and

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Speaker 6: it's really hard to call that because he was never

572
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Speaker 6: a huge deal in the States to begin with, but

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Speaker 6: back in the late sixties and early seventies he was

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Speaker 6: a crucial figure in the British folk music movement. And

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Speaker 6: he died tragically at a very young age. No one

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Speaker 6: said his name. I'd never heard of him. And then

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Speaker 6: there was a VW one of the commercials for their

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Speaker 6: Moon Roofs. It's a bunch of kids standing there looking

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Speaker 6: up at the sky and Pink Moon by Nick Drake

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Speaker 6: is playing in the background. That was really the first

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Speaker 6: modern era example of what you're talking about right now

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Speaker 6: of something completely unknown to most people. That suddenly was

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Speaker 6: very much the conversation of the moment.

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Speaker 2: And that when I heard that and then read at

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Speaker 2: that commercial, h I ended up reading about the Nick

586
00:29:07,080 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 2: Drait character, and that's I actually went out and bought

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Speaker 2: a CD.

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Speaker 1: I added, Dude, he's got several great ones.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so I bought one so for the same thing,

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Speaker 2: And you were right, Buckley says, known for his hauntingly

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Speaker 2: beautiful voice and solo studio album Grace that you just

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Speaker 2: mentioned nineteen ninety four, tragically drowned in the Wolf River,

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Speaker 2: a tributary of the Mississippi, on May twenty, nineteen ninety seven,

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Speaker 2: at the age of thirty. He was in Memphis to

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Speaker 2: work on a second album, which was never finished.

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Speaker 1: Think about that.

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Speaker 6: I mean, so he left behind this incredible but a

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Speaker 6: dangerously awfully brief legacy. Right he puts out this album

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Speaker 6: that is going to cement his place already has technically,

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Speaker 6: the tragic nature of him passing so soon thereafter before

601
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Speaker 6: we really got any more material, has helped cement it.

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00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 6: Think kind of like Amy Winehouse. We only got two

603
00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 6: records out of her before she was gone. That only

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Speaker 6: adds to the legacy. But he was there, he was

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Speaker 6: onto something. This was a young artists thirty years old

606
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Speaker 6: who was on the precipice of genuine greatness and recognition

607
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Speaker 6: and then was taken away. So he's always as great

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Speaker 6: as he was. He's always going to be a cult hero, right,

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Speaker 6: He's never going to be a household name by any means.

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Speaker 1: But his music is fantastical. The song is he does have.

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Speaker 2: It's they describe your hauntingly beautiful voice.

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Speaker 1: It is.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the lyrics are pretty deep and it is a

614
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Speaker 2: very it's like a six and a half minute song.

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Speaker 2: But he was great. Yeah, you could see why it was.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we talked about Hendrix, another guy even

617
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Speaker 2: at the twenty seven Club. Yeah, now he obviously had

618
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Speaker 2: a larger body of work release, but same with Janis

619
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Speaker 2: Joplin and others in the twenty seven Club in Morrison.

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Speaker 2: But then there were others too, like you have your

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Speaker 2: your Harry Chapins and your Jim cro Cheese and your

622
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Speaker 2: your buddy Holly's in the Big Bopper and Richie Allen's

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Speaker 2: people that did die tragically and you don't know how

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Speaker 2: much well Lennon gotten down at four obviously a very

625
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Speaker 2: large body work, but who knows now would.

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Speaker 1: You would be almost ninety now, right?

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Speaker 2: But my point is is who knows how much more

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Speaker 2: output we would have gotten and what we these tragic losses?

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Speaker 2: How much you know? And again it's the artist's loss

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Speaker 2: that their dead and their family members, but the loss

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Speaker 2: that we did may have had from some of the

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Speaker 2: really great music.

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Speaker 6: And you can't feel bad about that part of it

634
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 6: because that's the nature of our relationship. These people are

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Speaker 6: providing something that somewhere in your brain you need. If

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Speaker 6: what they've created doesn't hit the big red button in

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Speaker 6: your brain, then the two of you never really have

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00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:33,520
Speaker 6: a relationship. But once you fall in love, once you

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00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: open yourself up to it, once you're emotionally invested, yeah,

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Speaker 6: I mean they mean something to you, and it is

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Speaker 6: tragic because it's on a huge scale. And even Kurt

642
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Speaker 6: Cobain and Nirvana, right, I mean, you got the one

643
00:31:45,640 --> 00:31:48,520
Speaker 6: landmark legendary album Bleach was fine, but that was not

644
00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 6: to me, a fully formed Nirvana. Then you get never Mind,

645
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 6: and then they got so popular so radically quickly that

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Speaker 6: they had to just scramble and take a bunch of

647
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Speaker 6: demos and B sides and songs that have been working

648
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Speaker 6: on and put it on a compilation called in Sessticide

649
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 6: and that I think is a great compilation. And then

650
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Speaker 6: the last record, which was recorded here in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: To me, it's a suicide note.

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Speaker 6: I can't really listen to in Utero unless I'm in

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Speaker 6: the right headspace or really on a Kurt Cobain kick.

654
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,240
Speaker 6: And so to me, you only really have one genuinely

655
00:32:16,600 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 6: great Nirvana album, and that's not enough. I loved I

656
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,880
Speaker 6: loved Kurt Cobain and his musical output. I loved everybody

657
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,959
Speaker 6: in that band. I like everything from their entire career.

658
00:32:26,400 --> 00:32:28,200
Speaker 6: But I do I feel kind of robbed man. I

659
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,200
Speaker 6: wanted more music. And I feel the same way about

660
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:30,960
Speaker 6: Amy Winehouse.

661
00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 2: And speaking of death, yeah, you are the grum reaper

662
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: I am, and you have one.

663
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 6: I do, in fact have one now. This one again

664
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 6: not a huge household name, right, but if you have

665
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 6: ever listened to reggae or you care about the trajectory

666
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 6: of Jamaican music at all, we lost a giant. We

667
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 6: lost Slide Dunbar. He has died at the age of

668
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 6: I don't have his age here right in front of me, unfortunately,

669
00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:02,040
Speaker 6: but Slid Dumb was part of a production duo known

670
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 6: as Sly and Robbie, and in addition to producing their

671
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:12,000
Speaker 6: own music, they became huge foundational forces in what reggae

672
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:17,720
Speaker 6: went through its most convoluted and fractured sort of experience

673
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: in really in the seventies. Think about what happened to

674
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 6: rock and roll in the sixties, right, it went fifty

675
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 6: different directions. Well, Sly and Robbie were right there at

676
00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,760
Speaker 6: the center of all that sort of experiment and trying

677
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:30,960
Speaker 6: new things, and the tape loop thing and the dub

678
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 6: era was really very popular, and they were there sort

679
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,040
Speaker 6: of centrally located and waiting for the digital era to

680
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 6: come along, which changed everything about Jamaican music. Anyway, it's

681
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 6: a long story. Unless you're really deep on reggae, it's

682
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 6: not really that interesting, but a foundational figure. Anybody who's

683
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 6: ever bobbed their head to a little reggae owes a

684
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 6: debt to Sly Robby seventy three.

685
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: There we go again, two youngs very much. So let's

686
00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,640
Speaker 2: go ahead. Anything else do you have that's good for now? Tenneby,

687
00:33:58,680 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: what do you think do we do?

688
00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:00,240
Speaker 1: A little.

689
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 4: Rock?

690
00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Rocklank rock?

691
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 2: Rock right, Rock rock Link Rock rock Right.

692
00:34:12,560 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 1: Last week we did Brian Oaks top five favorite artists

693
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: or bands from the state of Minnesota. We're in a

694
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 1: similar theme. We're just gonna go up north a little bit.

695
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: We're gonna go with Canada today. So Brian oak your

696
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,400
Speaker 1: top five favorite artists or bands from Canada.

697
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:32,720
Speaker 6: Once again, quick qualifier that there are dozens, if not hundreds,

698
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 6: hundreds of artists that could be on this list, and

699
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 6: I'm avoiding some obvious ones from the modern era. So

700
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 6: if you came here looking for Justin Bieber or Avril

701
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: Levigne or Drake, that's not going to be happening, but

702
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 6: there are Canada has given us some great stuff. In

703
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 6: Canada is a weird situation, right where in a lot

704
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 6: of the art that is made in Canada is supported

705
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 6: by state funding, right, And so as a result, also,

706
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 6: Canadian media outlets, up until very recently, I don't know

707
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,399
Speaker 6: if they still are, were required to contain no less

708
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 6: than forty percent exclusively Canadian content. So although they were

709
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,920
Speaker 6: still playing stuff from America, Canadian bands were getting a

710
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:14,879
Speaker 6: fairer shake in their native Canada, which is why you've

711
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 6: got so many of these giant bands, let's say the

712
00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 6: tragically Hip in Canada revered like an ram, like as

713
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,919
Speaker 6: big as it gets, as cool as it gets, Hip

714
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 6: the tragically Hip, and all of a sudden there's this

715
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 6: invisible barrier, you know, at the forty eighth parallel, and

716
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,600
Speaker 6: they can't get over it. And again they do have

717
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 6: their fans here obviously, but nothing like they are in Canada.

718
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 6: So it's very weird. Some of these have crossed over,

719
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,799
Speaker 6: some of them have not. Coming in at number five, though,

720
00:35:40,840 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 6: I don't think anyone will argue with me. In fact,

721
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 6: I've seen her number one on some lists like this.

722
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 6: Joni Mitchell. Joni Mitchell comes in at number five for

723
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 6: me because not only did she find herself at the

724
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 6: right place in the right time, for her songwriting style

725
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 6: both lyrically and musically, for her sometimes challenge but often

726
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 6: captivating voice, the nature of she was doing Canyon music

727
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 6: better than Laurel Canyon artists were, and she was from Canada,

728
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 6: and she just put out landmark albums, some of them

729
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: utterly flawless, and the quality of her songwriting for me

730
00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:18,080
Speaker 6: even surpasses her ability to play and sing, although those

731
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 6: are both. It should be held in very high regard.

732
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 6: She's one of the great North American songwriters in our

733
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:24,959
Speaker 6: lifetime without question.

734
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: That's why she's number five for me.

735
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 2: She everybody wanted to work with her, everybody and everybody

736
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 2: wanted to be with her. Was that magnetism.

737
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 6: There was a thing about her that she was the

738
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 6: year exactly right, Like I mean, everybody wants to work

739
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 6: with Taylor Swift.

740
00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:41,319
Speaker 2: Right.

741
00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:44,479
Speaker 6: Maybe she wasn't Taylor Swift popular, but it was better

742
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: than that. She was well respected by her peers and

743
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:50,120
Speaker 6: to this day considered one of the great songwriters.

744
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 2: Indeed, I have another note on her, but that's for

745
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:55,200
Speaker 2: another day. Anyway.

746
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 6: Number four, number four, we turn our attention to a

747
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 6: slightly modern, more modern era and the nineties in particular

748
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 6: for me and on through the two thousands. Yes, we

749
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 6: are heading to well where we're not quite it's not

750
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:09,200
Speaker 6: some forty one. I'm sorry. I thought you're gonna say Atlanta,

751
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:12,960
Speaker 6: Nor is it Nickelback? Oh man, alanis is my number

752
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 6: six on this list. It's my first also, ran just

753
00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,799
Speaker 6: let me get through the list, all right, Sloan, this

754
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 6: band matters to me, Sloan, Halifax, Nova Scotia exactly you

755
00:37:21,320 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 6: asked me for my favorites. This is a band again

756
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 6: are not quite as big as the Tragically Hip in Canada,

757
00:37:27,800 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 6: but they are huge. They have in a thirty year

758
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 6: musical legacy and they continue to crank it out. Sloan

759
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 6: is interesting in that they have four members in the band.

760
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 6: All of them contribute songs. Every one of them have

761
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 6: songs on every one of their albums, and having seen

762
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 6: them live, I initially thought it was a gimmick and

763
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:45,760
Speaker 6: then just realized these guys are that good. They switch

764
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 6: instruments throughout the entire show, the lead singer and guitar

765
00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 6: player on this song, playing drums the next one, bass

766
00:37:51,239 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 6: on the next one. And it's not every single song,

767
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,400
Speaker 6: but they do a lot of rotation. They write power pop,

768
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 6: They write very touching and affecting music. They are just

769
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,320
Speaker 6: they are very very cool power pop band that virtually

770
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 6: no one in America knows. But they are one of

771
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 6: my very favorite bands of all time.

772
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: Number four.

773
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 6: That was number four, That was number four, number three,

774
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,839
Speaker 6: number three, at number three, we could we keep our

775
00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 6: attention on the East coast of Canada. And this one

776
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,759
Speaker 6: goes back into your wheelhouse. Common You're gonna like this one.

777
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:28,760
Speaker 2: They want time L four on My Way to Better Things.

778
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: That's not who it is. But I know they're your favorite.

779
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: I know, I know.

780
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 6: But this is a little later, but not in an

781
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: entirely dissimilar wheelhouse. What do you get when I say

782
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,040
Speaker 6: titles like all over Town just Between You and Me,

783
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 6: Flight of the Gypsy Queen, Nothing, you're staring at me

784
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 6: with blank guys, Flight of the Gypsy Queen, Between You

785
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:55,720
Speaker 6: and Me, April Wine, April yea Roller.

786
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're brilliant. Yeah, I never really, never really like one.

787
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: Whoa for whatever wine was some of sports fans during

788
00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: the playoffs, Yeah, oh wait, where's it there? It is? Yeah,

789
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 1: April Wine. And they're not everybody's cup of tea.

790
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 6: But growing up in Coon Rapids in the seventies and eighties,

791
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,319
Speaker 6: they were just they were everywhere. They were ubiquitous on

792
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 6: the radio, on friends, I knew who played music. They

793
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,960
Speaker 6: just and they stuck more than almost any other band

794
00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 6: from that era. Sure, I love me some Night Ranger,

795
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 6: but April Wine will remain one of my favorites of

796
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,239
Speaker 6: all time.

797
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,080
Speaker 2: Very good number two, number two.

798
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna get a little heat for this one.

799
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 6: People are gonna say, maybe spent a little too much

800
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 6: time at City's ninety seven back in its classic days.

801
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,680
Speaker 6: But this right here, she's one of my all time

802
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 6: favorites for just about all the reasons.

803
00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,240
Speaker 1: I love her music.

804
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 6: My ex wife and I we played some of her

805
00:39:45,120 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 6: music at our wedding ceremony. I've interviewed her a couple

806
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,480
Speaker 6: of times. I have enjoyed her music and played it

807
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 6: on the radio for decades, and also having met her

808
00:39:53,560 --> 00:39:55,520
Speaker 6: and interviewed her a couple of times. I can't find

809
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:59,319
Speaker 6: anybody sweeter or nicer ever, and I've been crushed out

810
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 6: on her for about thirty five years. That would be

811
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: one Sarah maclachlin. She is not only a wonderful person,

812
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 6: but she was the architect of Lilith Fair a very

813
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 6: important time in music, right. I mean, things were changing

814
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 6: in the nineties. It was interesting, Grunge was happening, alternative

815
00:40:14,440 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 6: was exploding, but it was still a total boys club

816
00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:20,319
Speaker 6: and as much as it ever had been. And she

817
00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 6: went out of her way to say hey, look at this,

818
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,080
Speaker 6: and didn't do it in a divisive way, did it

819
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 6: in an inclusive way, but also in an important way

820
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 6: at a time where people like Alanis Morris set were

821
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,080
Speaker 6: busting out, and people were like, what's happened? There was

822
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 6: a new voice for women in the nineties that hadn't

823
00:40:36,200 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 6: maybe always existed before, and Sarah McLaughlin did more than

824
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,479
Speaker 6: anybody else to help promote that on the musical level.

825
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 6: I just I'm an unending fan of ms McLaughlin.

826
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: Number one number one.

827
00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:50,120
Speaker 2: Southern Man comment.

828
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's exactly right.

829
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 6: Again, I know this is a polarizing one because a

830
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,400
Speaker 6: lot of people simply cannot.

831
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 1: Get past his voice. I think that he might be boy.

832
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 6: I'd have to really sit down and make the list,

833
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:07,959
Speaker 6: but I think I am more than confident in saying

834
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,279
Speaker 6: he's in my top ten list of songwriters all time.

835
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 6: I don't think he's in my top ten albums. I

836
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 6: don't think he's in my top ten artists. But it's

837
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,840
Speaker 6: just a songwriter. The guy wrote so many important songs,

838
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,360
Speaker 6: and he also wasn't afraid of the darker end of

839
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,280
Speaker 6: material in terms of the things we think about in philosophies.

840
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,480
Speaker 6: And you know, I didn't love every experimentation he did

841
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 6: throughout the years. But you're talking about coming up on

842
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 6: a more than a sixty year career. Still can getting

843
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 6: weird every now and then, but that's artists. They get weird, right,

844
00:41:38,040 --> 00:41:41,760
Speaker 6: and just consistently over that time, unafraid of loud guitars,

845
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 6: unafraid to write about haunting and really searing sort of

846
00:41:45,080 --> 00:41:49,000
Speaker 6: lyrical topics, and just and enduring. We'd still talk about

847
00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 6: him sixty years into his career. I think Neil Young

848
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 6: is probably my favorite Canadian artist of all.

849
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 2: Dam and he also made some terrific contributions when he

850
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,759
Speaker 2: joined Crosby Stills and that correct and they begin that

851
00:41:59,880 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 2: was and that was iteration a Crosrizil's a Nash start

852
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 2: that they added Young for a while. They did Four

853
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 2: Way Street, which is a terrific album.

854
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 6: And yeah, I need Buffalo Springfield before that, and just

855
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,360
Speaker 6: and his songs to me musically, he stayed interesting. I

856
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,440
Speaker 6: saw him in the nineties at the Target Center and

857
00:42:17,480 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 6: he had Sonic Youth open up for him, and I

858
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 6: understand what he was doing. I think he was trying

859
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 6: to reinforce that he and Crazy Horse were into distortion

860
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 6: long before distortion was a cool thing. That room was

861
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,120
Speaker 6: too big for Sonic Youth. But not that they're not

862
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 6: good enough, but it just that's weird to see that

863
00:42:32,040 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 6: kind of a band in a stadium.

864
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 1: But Neil Young was great.

865
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: I've seen him several times over the years and he's

866
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 6: just he's brilliant.

867
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:39,120
Speaker 2: Where's the guess who?

868
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: The guess who? They make your top ten? They are

869
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: in the three.

870
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 6: Yes, they would absolutely make my top ten, but they are.

871
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,840
Speaker 6: They're in the top three of my honorable mentions, along

872
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 6: with bands like Rush, Bare Naked Ladies, Lover Boy, Avril Levine, Feist, Arcade,

873
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:59,120
Speaker 6: Fire Gordon, Lightfoot, Shanaia Twain, Triumph, Metric, the New Pornographers.

874
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,879
Speaker 6: Who really should be on my top five, Our Lady

875
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:04,839
Speaker 6: Piece another huge one. Rush obviously, but the guests who

876
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 6: they're great. I mean, their legacy is undeniable, and they

877
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 6: didn't they weren't afraid to make it a little scrunky,

878
00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 6: you know, like with the organ and the guitars.

879
00:43:12,520 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 2: What I liked was, you know, for me, it was

880
00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: so much of it was people said the soundtrack of

881
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 2: my life, but it was a soundtrack of because their

882
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:25,000
Speaker 2: big hits were sixty probably nine I think was their

883
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 2: first hit, I think, and I could have them, you know,

884
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 2: they in the wrong order, but I think it was

885
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: to me one of the greatest love songs. Of all

886
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:38,440
Speaker 2: times is the song These Eyes. I mean, it's simply brilliant,

887
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,000
Speaker 2: the words, the lyrics, words and larks of the same thing,

888
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:44,160
Speaker 2: the lyrics, the music, the very thing, the lyrics, the whole.

889
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 2: And I've always been a huge fan of Burton Cummings.

890
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 1: Boys.

891
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: I think he's one of the most underrated voices in

892
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,480
Speaker 2: rock and roll. But yeah, and you know what's funny,

893
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 2: just a little side story on that song, These Eyes.

894
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,560
Speaker 2: It originally was called these Aren't because that's part of

895
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,360
Speaker 2: you know, these eyes, these arms want to hold you, right,

896
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:07,319
Speaker 2: But then I think they started thinking these arms just

897
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 2: as in quite as romantic as these eyes.

898
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that helps.

899
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Right, you got these shoes, it was right exactly, yeah, right,

900
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 2: And so then when these and then of course you

901
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,920
Speaker 2: know they're controversial. So I was an American woman, you know,

902
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,240
Speaker 2: because when were they singing about the Statue of Liberty

903
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 2: in America? They didn'tant because it was a Vietnam War

904
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,720
Speaker 2: and that of course there and I've read things where

905
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: the story changes, I thing, depending upon what kind of

906
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,759
Speaker 2: a mood they're in something. Sometimes you'll hear one of

907
00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 2: the band members go, well, yeah, then I was like,

908
00:44:33,640 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 2: I had nothing to do with you know, it did,

909
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 2: but it was and they've been in the news lately

910
00:44:38,080 --> 00:44:41,840
Speaker 2: because you know, the two driving forces were we were

911
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 2: were Burton.

912
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 6: Cummings and Randy Bachman, right, and Bachman would go on

913
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 6: to turner Overdives.

914
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 2: And three of the other guys in the band, in particularly,

915
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 2: I think two of them they've been touring as the

916
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 2: guests who of course and of course they're they're they're

917
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,400
Speaker 2: posters and stuff. Don't say you know that it's not

918
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:03,279
Speaker 2: with it. And so both bach In and Commings became better.

919
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: There was lawsuits stuff. This was just recent the last year,

920
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: and the court sided with those guys, and so they can.

921
00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 6: With those guys, meaning the band the other band are

922
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:14,839
Speaker 6: they're the ones keeping it alive and they're the ones

923
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:15,640
Speaker 6: doing it right and.

924
00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:20,759
Speaker 2: No, but the court sided with Cummings in that's what no, no, no,

925
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,360
Speaker 2: the band now they still get to there was some

926
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,560
Speaker 2: agreement where they can still play, but they've got to

927
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:27,799
Speaker 2: be perfectly clear that by the way, Burton Cummings ain't

928
00:45:27,840 --> 00:45:30,359
Speaker 2: here and Nora's Randy Bachman, right, And not that those

929
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 2: guys weren't important when the group was first starting, but

930
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: they weren't the guys that were writing the song, singing

931
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,719
Speaker 2: and playing the guitars they were you know, you had

932
00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:41,520
Speaker 2: your bass player, your keyboard playing, your drummer, all very competent,

933
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,720
Speaker 2: but they just weren't. You know, how did they certain

934
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 2: guys make the band and other people don't.

935
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: I know exactly how it is? Disappointed, No, Carl re Jepson. Wait,

936
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:53,399
Speaker 1: she's on my honorable mentions. There's only there's only five.

937
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 6: I ran down all of them there Man, Leonard Cohen,

938
00:45:55,600 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 6: Alanis Morris, beyond Katie, Katie Langer, Biebert and Bieber. I

939
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:03,640
Speaker 6: said at the very top, thanks for listening. Justin Bieber

940
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 6: Drake some forty one. They will find no love here.

941
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,640
Speaker 6: I do like the Weekend.

942
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 2: He doesn't displace anyone in the top five of John Steppenwolf.

943
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:14,879
Speaker 2: You know he he left the Europe you know, right

944
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 2: after the war, right, they fled, he and his mother,

945
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,359
Speaker 2: his father. I think the band and the family if

946
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, or maybe maybe the tragic stories his

947
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 2: father was killed. Anyway, they left Germany, that's where he's from.

948
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,399
Speaker 2: Then he went to Canada. They went to Toronto, and that's

949
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 2: where he first became a musician was up in Toronto

950
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 2: with a group called the Sparrows. You song with me

951
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 2: over at I sure did over at Dakota downtown Minneataa

952
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:40,280
Speaker 2: where he was done. He's completely almost Steppenwolf. He wanted

953
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:42,400
Speaker 2: to get back to folks singing, so he did a

954
00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 2: seventh city ron to see if it would catch on

955
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,400
Speaker 2: with people. Yeah it didn't, you know, I mean, you

956
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: have to really like John Cambe a fan and I

957
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 2: enjoyed it, but it ain't Steppenwolf. But yeah, so he

958
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 2: was from He was from Canada as.

959
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: Well, right on via Germany.

960
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 6: One very last note for those of you who live

961
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:02,680
Speaker 6: in the city of Minneapolis. Bruce Springsteen dropped a brand

962
00:47:02,680 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 6: new song today called Streets of Minneapolis.

963
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 2: And I'll leave that there. We'll take a break, We'll

964
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: come back when we do. The legendary Mark Rosen joins

965
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:09,480
Speaker 2: us next year in the Fairly