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Speaker 1: here on one oh five nine. The x jording me

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Speaker 1: now in studio to discuss he covers the Penguins for

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Speaker 1: the Athletic. He is Josh, Joey Josh, what is the

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Speaker 1: most surprising thing to you about the Penguins so far

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Speaker 1: this year?

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I guess I would have to start with the goaltending

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Speaker 3: Mark Tristan Jarry, who we are going to see tonight

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Speaker 3: in Minnesota, has very good career numbers in that building.

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Speaker 2: By the way, he's been good and.

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Speaker 3: We certainly couldn't say that last season at the end

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Speaker 3: of the year he looked better for sure, But when

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Speaker 3: the guy gets sent to Wilkesbury twice in a season,

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Speaker 3: you don't expect him to start the season in the

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Speaker 3: manner that he has. And as for she Lovs, if

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Speaker 3: we can ignore the shootouts, which we can't, he's actually

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Speaker 3: been very good. He stole the Penguins a point in

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Speaker 3: Philly the other night.

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Speaker 1: He's been the better of the two, except he's been

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Speaker 1: offling the shootouts could be I mean, he absolutely stole

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Speaker 1: had one of the worst games of the season.

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Speaker 3: Did not look good playing on the second end of

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Speaker 3: the back to back. That's what he does, though. He's

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Speaker 3: one of those guys who will steal you games. Penguins

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Speaker 3: haven't had a goalie like that really since Flurry. Just

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Speaker 3: stylistically she loves will have some off nights too, but

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Speaker 3: that's always been the mo with him. He will steal

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Speaker 3: you games on occasion, and that's one thing you really

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Speaker 3: have never been able to say about Jari. So the

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Speaker 3: goaltending has really been impressive. Obviously, they've played better hockey

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Speaker 3: all the way around, but they weren't always bad. Last season,

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Speaker 3: their goaltending just literally killed them so much, especially at

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Speaker 3: the beginning of games. You know, if you're dealing with that,

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Speaker 3: it doesn't really matter what the rest of your team

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Speaker 4: Oh, She'll loves a good fit.

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Speaker 1: If he could win, you know, a medal at the

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Speaker 1: Worlds for Latvia, he can do okay playing behind Sidney Crosby.

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Speaker 4: I would say the most surprising thing is Gino's.

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Speaker 1: Whole line, him and the big guys, not just the

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Speaker 1: Geno's producing. And is you know, right near the league

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Speaker 4: But then he's a good fit with Braso and Mantham.

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Speaker 2: Well Braso in particular.

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Speaker 3: This guy's putting up better than a point per game,

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Speaker 3: and no, he's not going to keep up that pace,

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Speaker 3: I don't think. But I will say none of the

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Speaker 3: goals have been fluky, like the guy's got a pair

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Speaker 3: of hands, mark, he really does.

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Speaker 2: He has scored a couple of beautiful goals.

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Speaker 4: He's got a pair of hands.

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Speaker 1: In tight He's not going to be defenseman one on one,

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Speaker 1: but he can fake out the goalie.

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Speaker 2: No, that's right.

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Speaker 3: He's not going to create a ton of offense on

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Speaker 3: his own, but he just makes so many plays with

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Speaker 3: that Mantha and malcan have some chemistry. We'll see if

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Speaker 3: Gino can keep this up. He did this in October

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Speaker 3: last season. I don't know if he has eighty two

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Speaker 3: He yeah, and he's just so big and he's always

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Speaker 4: I think it's just a simple formula.

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Speaker 1: Those guys drive the debt and play good don Low

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Speaker 1: An ideal fit in the neutral zone, but they've kept

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Speaker 3: It's probably not to Gino's credit, with the exception of Philly,

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Speaker 3: I just see chemistry and it's one of the biggest

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Speaker 5: Well.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Penguins have been easy to play against for

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Speaker 1: a number of years, Yes, but sid's never easy to

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Speaker 3: People have asked me why the Penguins look so much

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Speaker 3: better this season, and honestly, it's easy to point to

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Speaker 3: this summer and how many positions he upgraded on this team,

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Speaker 3: whether it be Brazo and Mantha we already talked about them.

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Speaker 3: Watherspoon a very clear upgrade. For whatever reason, this is

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Speaker 3: with Carlson. The analytics people always loved Watherspoon for whatever reason.

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Speaker 3: Agree with them, but maybe they were right about him.

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Speaker 3: He had the one mistake in Anaheim when he shot

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Speaker 3: the puck over the glass cost the Penguins a game.

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Speaker 3: The way he bounced back, He's played his best hockey

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Speaker 3: the latter day Chadrowheedle. I don't mean that as an insult.

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Speaker 3: He might be gonna give you a lot offensively, but boy,

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Speaker 3: they're gonna have their good knights and they're gonna have

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Speaker 3: That's a very real thing.

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Speaker 1: Plushy, don't look goofy in his helmet. Ruedy did he

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Speaker 1: had like that great kazoo thing going. I'm not sure

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Speaker 1: I'm also not sure Hollander is the guy on that

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Speaker 1: And who's gonna settle in at that spot to Rax

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's a problem because I like Hallander.

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Speaker 4: But I think you got to go back to that.

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Speaker 4: I just don't think Sid wants to. And I don't

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Speaker 3: At some point Covenant hasn't looked good though I don't

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Speaker 3: he was great. They send him down to Wilkesbury eleven

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Speaker 3: to me. I don't know that there are any solutions

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Speaker 1: Muse isn't making the third line play like a third line.

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Speaker 1: It's not Chip and Chase. He's having those guys play.

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Speaker 3: That is correct and So Kendall has been such of

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Speaker 3: it what's more important on Sid's winger or the third

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Speaker 3: what happens to the third line if Kendall goes up there?

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Speaker 3: You want Tommy Novak is your third line center, because

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Speaker 4: I don't want him as my third line winger with Kindle.

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Speaker 3: Right, that's a real issue, and that's what happens. You

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Speaker 3: keep in mind, not necessarily with Sid, but a guy

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Speaker 2: Rucker mcgroarty's going to be.

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Speaker 3: Back at some point in the next month, I would think,

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Speaker 3: and that certainly gives them more depth.

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Speaker 2: If you're talking about it, I'd.

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Speaker 4: Put McGroarty with the Kindle and on the Kid line.

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Speaker 2: So what I I love that idea.

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Speaker 3: In fact that my point is it will just make

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Speaker 3: that's a thirty five goal scorer who knows how to

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Speaker 3: That that's a pretty damaging loss. I don't think people

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Speaker 1: This segment brought to twist by eighty four lumber Dynasty,

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Speaker 1: partner of the Pittsburgh Steelers. You mentioned now Gino's not

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Speaker 4: I don't think Eric Carlson is either.

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Speaker 1: I think he's still hap hazard sometimes, but he's making

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Speaker 4: And I actually saw.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, in Philly, he broke a stick over the crossbow.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 2: They didn't even score on that play.

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Speaker 3: He just knew he screwed up so bad that I

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Speaker 2: He's been really good. He has.

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Speaker 3: He did not have a good knight in Philly, but

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Speaker 3: we know that will come with him. You're right, he's

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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to make excuses, but he didn't have

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Speaker 4: By the way, Quick Selly thing New York's bombing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: You know, I'm not.

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Speaker 1: Sure I'm embracing the Penguins yet Josh as a nailed

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Speaker 4: But I will say this, the Eastern Conference sucks.

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Speaker 2: It's really even they're good teams.

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Speaker 4: They're good teams. I don't trust they're good teams. Are

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Speaker 3: Watched the Maple Leafs for about ten minutes last night.

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Speaker 3: They looked awful, like there's something wrong with that team.

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Speaker 3: they're probably gonna hang around if they go five hundred

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Speaker 1: That Thanksgiving thing, Yeah, if you're in the playoffs at Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 3: We're less than four weeks away now, right or four

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Speaker 1: That don't even though I in a in a vacuum,

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Speaker 1: I'd much rather get early.

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Speaker 2: Pick.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but this is what's best for business, so I

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Speaker 1: because here's what I said a bit earlier. Toronto should,

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Speaker 2: Well, there's one team. You didn't mention that.

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Speaker 3: I really like Jersey. Yeah, I think the Devils are interesting.

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Speaker 4: I don't trust their goaltending.

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Speaker 2: I don't either. You know who I pick, and this

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Speaker 3: You know who I picked. The we had the athletic

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Speaker 3: we had to pick the East. You know who I picked.

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Speaker 3: I picked Florida and I know they're banged up. I

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Speaker 3: Zeno will make a move. He won't replace Barkov. There

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Speaker 3: I just think the East stinks that bad. I still

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Speaker 1: I'm rooting for a Eastern Conference final between Carolina and

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Speaker 3: Not the disparity between the TV ratings in Canada and

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Speaker 2: But I would still pick Carolina now.

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Speaker 1: And the weird part is with so many teams gonna

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Speaker 4: Whole way, I mean the whole way.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there probably won't be any big deals made, no,

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Speaker 1: and I mean teams will try, but you know, teams

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Speaker 3: It, right And people have asked me many times already,

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Speaker 3: like if the Penguins keep this up, let's do, what's

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Speaker 3: they listen, if they go on some Cinderella run and

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Speaker 2: Them for that. That's great, okay.

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Speaker 3: And for Dubas, it's fine so long as you don't

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Speaker 3: I know that he won't. That you're not gonna get

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Speaker 3: Gavin McKenna, that's what that means, but you probably weren't anyway.

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Speaker 3: Maybe some of these young guys are just better than

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Speaker 4: Who do you like tonight?

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Speaker 1: Minnesota is off to kind of a well, a bad

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Speaker 1: They got capras Off. I think he's overpaid and overrated,

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I don't like their team as much as some. No,

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Speaker 3: this could be a good night for the Penguins. Sid

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Speaker 3: always plays well there. He likes to see his old

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Speaker 3: chattick but Saint Mary's chattock buddies. He always plays well

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Speaker 3: Minnesota's given up the fourth most goals in the NHL

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Speaker 3: They're still getting points, which is a credit to them.

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Speaker 3: More than a week ago.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and at some point soon they're gonna get dropped

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Speaker 3: What if they blew Toronto because Toronto, like like you said,

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Speaker 4: I hope it's the night after the Blue Jays blow

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Speaker 4: the World Series X.

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Speaker 1: When she gets still Robert playing and wheeling tonight at

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Speaker 4: He calls it a mismatch, and that's like the one

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Speaker 7: And they got to be licking their chops getting ready

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Speaker 7: It's amazing how well that offensive line's playing. The Steelers

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Speaker 7: calling great games. Jonathan Taylor is the MVP right now,

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Speaker 4: That Colts O line is great. The guard Quenton Nelson

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Speaker 1: He gonna be matched up against Cam Hayward and Nelson

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Speaker 4: And it makes me wonder.

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Speaker 1: Yes, there are two pass you can go by, but

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Speaker 1: Always great to talk to, Jerry Dulac. Jerry, this game

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Speaker 8: Yeah, he really has, Mark, He and Mike Brabel would

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Speaker 4: And one thing he didn't even mention.

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Speaker 1: They have a really good offensive line anchored by Nelson

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Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, Quentin Nelson is like the Tom Brady

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Speaker 8: You know, I've watched a number of games over the years,

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Speaker 8: up and down the field. And then it all changed

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Speaker 8: to nothing lead in Cincinnati. Is sixteen to seven halftime

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Speaker 8: laid here. Okay, I know they're not twenty one point advantages,

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Speaker 8: but they're still you know, basically double digit leads and

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Speaker 8: then defense can't protect them.

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Speaker 1: Well, in a nutshell, Jerry, what's wrong with that defense?

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Speaker 1: You could probably talk about that for hours, but give

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Speaker 8: Well, Mark, I don't think there's any question. The most

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Speaker 8: their secondary Okay, part of that is because in the

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Speaker 8: They're getting none from the edge. Look, I didn't sit

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Speaker 8: on several instances I watched when he was singled up,

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Speaker 8: when you don't get any sacks, you know, they had

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Speaker 8: twelve in those back to back games, he had thirty

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Speaker 8: really didn't have a big factor in the game. But

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Speaker 8: two sacks in the last two games. No sacks and

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Speaker 8: no turnovers against the Packers. And you know, in addition,

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Speaker 8: in addition to allowing all those passing yards, I think

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Speaker 8: what's alarming Mark about the three hundred and sixty yards

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Speaker 8: by Jordan Love. Two hundred and forty four yards came.

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Speaker 8: They were yards after the catch, which means the receivers

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Speaker 8: aren't being contested. They're tackling has been abysmal, as we know,

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Speaker 8: But two hundred and forty four yards after the catch,

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Speaker 8: that's a staggering amount. And that just only points up

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Speaker 4: How could they line up different in the secondary? Though?

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Speaker 1: Now with Elliott, I mean, Dougar's a guy, he's a

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Speaker 1: Ben actually had a good suggestion on this podcast to

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Speaker 4: At least that would take somebody away.

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Speaker 8: Well, I think you're gonna see different things like that.

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Speaker 8: They're gonna probably have to use Jalen Ramsey a little

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Speaker 8: bit different. You know, we already we already see them

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Speaker 8: that's not a bad suggestion, but you still have those

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Speaker 8: for whatever reason, he fell into disfavor with Mike Grabel,

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Speaker 8: Mark, I don't know. I don't know who said he's

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Speaker 4: Well that anyway, Jerry, he's not doing it.

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Speaker 8: That's what's going to be my point, Mark, is that

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Speaker 8: He's not disrupting the games. Even if he doesn't get

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Speaker 8: But he's paid Mark, They you know, guaranteed one hundred

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Speaker 8: disrupt the backfield. And we're not seeing that. And that's

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Speaker 8: a large part, a large part of the problem that

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Speaker 1: I certainly can't criticize Aaron Rodgers, and I think their

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Speaker 8: they had eighty one yards rushing in the first half

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Speaker 8: But their protection has been good. The offense has been good.

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Speaker 8: You know, a lot of diversity. There is it high powered, no,

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Speaker 8: but it's not you know, it's not a dink and

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Speaker 8: have very little issue with the offense. And I think

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Speaker 8: the offensive line from a protection standpoint and a run

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Speaker 8: better every game, mark and so I mean that's credit

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Speaker 8: to them.

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Speaker 1: The Steelers like to try and force low scoring rock

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Speaker 1: open it up offensively and try to win games like

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Speaker 1: they did last year that first game against Cincinnati, like

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Speaker 1: like thirty five, thirty three or whatever.

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Speaker 8: Well, Mark, the basis of your question is is correct.

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Speaker 8: I mean they you know, from what we have seen

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati when the offense came back when Aaron Rodgers brought

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Speaker 8: him back twice in the fourth quarter from those two

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Speaker 8: ten point deficits, Yeah, they got off the field one

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Speaker 8: time out of the last eight drives. But even when

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Speaker 8: the Steelers took the lead on that long touchdown to Friarmouth,

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Speaker 8: defense came right down and let them score and they

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Speaker 8: lost the game.

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Speaker 5: And so.

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Speaker 8: I don't know, you know, Arthur Smith's not the type

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Speaker 8: to open it up. But I don't have any problem

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Speaker 8: with the way they've been playing offensively. But I think

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Speaker 8: we have seen now the other day a little different.

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Speaker 8: But I think because they just couldn't come back enough.

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Speaker 8: But I think we have seen that this offense is

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Speaker 8: capable of bailing out the defense, and Lord knows, and

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Speaker 8: until something gets right, they're going to have to continue.

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Speaker 4: To do some Mark, is there any chance on me?

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Speaker 4: I mean there's always a chance.

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Speaker 1: You talked about how they usually come back after being down,

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Speaker 1: but now they've been weighed down for a couple of games.

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Speaker 1: I just think this is a horrible matchup against the Colts.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I agree, Mark, And like I said, on paper,

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Speaker 8: it's as bad a matchup as you can have for

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Speaker 8: a team that's struggling in the areas that it is defensively,

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Speaker 8: going against the highest scoring team you know in the

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Speaker 8: NFL and a team that's just seven and one. You

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Speaker 8: know they're good on defense too, Mark, Hey, look we'll see.

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Speaker 8: I mean the Steelers aren't. It's not like they're the

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Speaker 8: they're the bottom feeders of the league. But they need

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Speaker 8: to get something right on defense and find out. You know,

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Speaker 8: it's a number of things, Marked, And and part of

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Speaker 8: that could be the guys that you brought in maybe

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Speaker 8: aren't as good as you thought they were, So you

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Speaker 8: know that that's all part of it. But whatever they're doing,

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Speaker 8: they're going to have to do something a little bit

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Speaker 8: different to change up what we've seen in the last

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Speaker 8: two games, which has been for their defense, extremely embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: What is the morale level like?

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Speaker 1: Because when I see guys doing interviews, especially a guy

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Speaker 1: like Cam Hayward, a perceived leader on the team, Jerry,

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Speaker 1: you know, these guys can't help but show the boo

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Speaker 1: boo face. It looks like they know what they're up

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Speaker 1: against and how much they've struggled. And I don't know

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Speaker 1: how they couldn't.

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Speaker 8: You know, Mark, I've always over the years never tried

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Speaker 8: to read the locker room because one thing I've learned

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Speaker 8: that come Wednesday, you can't tell if they've won fifty

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Speaker 8: to nothing or lost fifty to nothing. And so part

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Speaker 8: of those those faces you might see are also look

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Speaker 8: after those last two performances and when they're interviewing defensive guys,

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Speaker 8: nobody wants to smile. Everybody wants to appear serious and

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Speaker 8: you know, concerned about what they're doing. But I don't

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Speaker 8: think it has any reflection on, you know, on their

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Speaker 8: attitude or approach or enthusiasm for the game. I just

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Speaker 8: think they'll probably think, look, it's no time, it's no

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Speaker 8: time for smiles and giggles. And good times when you're playing.

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Speaker 5: Like that, Jarre.

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Speaker 1: At one point, I thought they couldn't help it win

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Speaker 1: the division. Now I can see Baltimore with Lamar Beck

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Speaker 1: coming on. I think Cincinnati blew a golden opportunity when

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Speaker 1: they lost to the Jets.

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Speaker 4: But how's this division going to shake down?

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Speaker 1: And now I find it hard to think there's going

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Speaker 1: to be more than one team makes the playoffs, just

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Speaker 1: the division winner gets in.

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Speaker 8: Well, the way it started, Mark, I agree with you

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Speaker 8: one hundred percent. I never thought Cincinnati was a serious

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Speaker 8: contender once Joe Burrow got hurt, you know, and now

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Speaker 8: Joe Flacco is probably not going to play this week.

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Speaker 8: But I've always thought only because I've seen it for

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Speaker 8: years and I know how banged up they were. I

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Speaker 8: never discount the Ravens. Hey, look they started one in five, Mark,

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Speaker 8: all they have to all they have to do is

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Speaker 8: go five and one and then they're back at five hundred.

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Speaker 8: And that's not much different than where the Steelers are

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Speaker 8: coming up with a tough schedule. So, you know, Mark,

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Speaker 8: the Steelers, as bad as they are, they still have

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Speaker 8: a one and a half game lead in the division.

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Speaker 8: I only say that because somebody has to get into

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Speaker 8: the postseason the division winner. So I don't care how

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Speaker 8: bad you are which and how bad you're playing now.

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Speaker 8: It will probably eventually catch up to you as the

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Speaker 8: season goes on. But law as you're playing terrible and

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Speaker 8: you still have a one and a half game lead

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Speaker 8: in the division, believe me, that's all they care about.

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Speaker 8: I don't want to say that's all they care about,

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Speaker 8: but that's a big component of what they're what they

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Speaker 8: care about because that means they get into the postseason

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Speaker 8: and they'll take their chances. Now we know what that

743
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Speaker 8: has shown, and we know what it'll probably be. But

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Speaker 8: somebody has to get in from the division, and right

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Speaker 8: now it would be them easily.

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Speaker 4: Jerry, great stuff. Enjoy the game on Sunday.

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Speaker 8: Mark and enjoy your watch party. I will see you,

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Speaker 8: my friend.

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Speaker 1: That's Sterry Doulac, brought to us by bud Light, easy

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Speaker 1: to drink, easy to enjoy, and since Terry led me

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Speaker 1: into it. I'm at the school host Tavern and Clarage

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Speaker 1: for the Steelers and Colts on Sunday at one p

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Speaker 9: Tonight's the Pen's face off against the Wild. Game time

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Speaker 9: is eight. Our coverage starts at seven. Listen to every

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Speaker 2: buzz Light. Probably served a Potter's Grill in Union Town,

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Speaker 2: stopping Potter's Grill and enjoyed it.

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Speaker 4: Cream comes to the top. I feel like I'm just

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Speaker 4: bubbling over you.

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Speaker 5: Have pants play on the air because I who told

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Speaker 5: you the exit one.

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Speaker 1: I think the key to any appearance on my part

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Speaker 1: is to have a catchy name. So Monday night and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to watch the Penguins game at Pittsburgh Brewing

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Speaker 1: in Crayton right off for twenty eight and I'm giving

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Speaker 1: away all kinds of bobbleheads from throughout my years of

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Speaker 1: getting them and not really caring that I have them.

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Speaker 1: So lemiue Crosby, malk and Latang come and get him.

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Speaker 1: That's my watch party for the Penguins in Toronto. The

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Speaker 1: game starts Monday night, seven thirty. I'll be at Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: Brewing in Crayton. It is the bubblehead giveaway bonanza. I

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Speaker 1: don't think you can go wrong with the bonanza. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And now it's time to ask Mark. Anything brought to

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Speaker 1: was by People's Natural Gas check out People's hyphen gas

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Speaker 1: dot com. Did I say Jerry was brought was by

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Speaker 1: bud Light, easy to drink, easy to enjoy it? Well,

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Speaker 1: I said it. Now, Uh, let's go to Joe. Joe

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Speaker 1: ask Mark anything.

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Speaker 5: Good? Mark?

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Speaker 10: I heard you bring him this up last week about

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Speaker 10: the make a trade to Miami. My question is that trade?

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Speaker 2: Was that trade.

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Speaker 10: Primarily for John in Ramsey was kind of awe that.

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Speaker 4: I don't know what it was for now, Bro.

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Speaker 1: I thought it was a good trade at the time,

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Speaker 1: but I never thought they would underuse Johnny like they have.

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Speaker 1: He's barely contributing at all, barely targeted, that's for certain.

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Speaker 1: And he's not really a blocker. Yeah, and then and

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Speaker 1: then Ramsey, Yeah, I underestimated and so did theay what

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Speaker 1: he could still do. He just can't cover top receivers

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Speaker 1: one on one anymore, just simply cannot do it.

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Speaker 10: Strot got to be in the spot, I'd say. But

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Speaker 10: with that trade man make it seemed like he was

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Speaker 10: the only guy. Maybe I gotta be wrong on that,

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Speaker 10: but he makes the only guy kind of remembered that

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Speaker 10: was what was kind of saying some a little bit

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Speaker 10: about the communication make us seem like he was kind

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Speaker 10: of like the sour rapple in there.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 10: He kind of always thought.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he was the one who said there was lack

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Speaker 1: of communication. Apparently he's right, because we've heard that critique

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Speaker 1: over and over again this year, And well, I don't

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Speaker 1: think Nika played well at all the last two years

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Speaker 1: and did not justify his big ticket the last two years.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he held that defense together back there more than

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Speaker 1: we thought.

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Speaker 9: That.

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Speaker 10: Do you think to him saying that it all might

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Speaker 10: have had any part in Tom removing him?

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who can tell with Tom when he

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Speaker 1: does things without rhyme nor reason. He's just terrible at

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Speaker 1: his job and even more terrible at personnel decisions.

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Speaker 4: Let's go to JB.

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Speaker 1: Jb ask Mark anything, Hey, good day, Serge, I said,

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Speaker 1: good day, Hey Mark.

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Speaker 11: I know you've expressed your disdain for the Exorcist movie

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Speaker 11: and you had a lot of.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no no. I wouldn't say that at all.

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Speaker 1: It's a great movie. I just get nightmares after I

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Speaker 1: watch it.

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Speaker 11: Okay, okay, And then you had a lot to say

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Speaker 11: it for the jos fiftieth anniversaries. My question is what

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Speaker 11: is your all time I guess it that the Exorcist

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Speaker 11: your all time favorite horror movie, and then your favorite franchise?

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Speaker 11: Are you the best?

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Speaker 4: The best horror movie ever is the Exorcist.

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Speaker 1: My favorite is Jaws because it doesn't give me nightmares

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Speaker 1: because I just don't go in the water.

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Speaker 11: As franchise, I don't really like any of.

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Speaker 1: The franchises that much. I mean the original Halloween that

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Speaker 1: was one with Jmi Lee.

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Speaker 4: Carteris right, Yeah, I believe so, the original what was.

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Speaker 1: The Michael Myers One Friday The thirteenth.

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Speaker 4: No, Michael Halloween. Yeah, so so I just don't. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I think every one of the horror movie franchise was overdone,

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Speaker 1: went too far, don't you agree?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, for the most part. I don't know if you

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Speaker 11: caught the TV series. Uh, the Purge was on USA?

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Speaker 4: Oh oh wait, hold is the Purge a horror movie?

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Speaker 4: Yeah it is.

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Speaker 1: It's more it's more social dystopia, but yeah, it's.

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Speaker 4: A horror movie. Yeah. The Purge is my favorite franchise.

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Speaker 1: I love the first page, loved the Second Purge, love

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Speaker 1: the Third Purge.

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Speaker 4: The next two not so much, but they were okay.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I love the Purge movies and I did love

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Speaker 1: the TV franchise.

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Speaker 11: I was gonna say, if you didn't catch that, I

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Speaker 11: thought that was really good and had a couple of seasons,

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Speaker 11: but I really enjoyed that.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for the call.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, my favorite scene in the Purge

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Speaker 1: franchise I couldn't even compliment it now because it was

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Speaker 1: something so like, yeah, I can't even talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Joe, Joe, ask Mark anything, how you doing?

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Speaker 4: Mark?

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Speaker 1: Thanks one after you.

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Speaker 4: And say that word and you have it for your brains.

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Speaker 4: Better call Saul.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Saul in the car one oh five nine.

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Speaker 8: ROK, yeah, this is Sault su.

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Speaker 4: Really finny. Good job. This is the Markman Show on

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Speaker 4: one oh five nine,