1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: To night, Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: director talk show host Michael Brown. 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 2: Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing a heck of a job 4 00:00:07,160 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 2: The Weekend with Michael Brown. 5 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 3: Hey, so the Weekend with Michael Brown. I don't know 6 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:12,959 Speaker 3: why you've tuned in, but I'm glad that you have. 7 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 3: We're broadcasting live from Denver, Colorado, as we usually do, 8 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:19,239 Speaker 3: unless I'm hiding down on the undisclosed location. We have 9 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: rules of engagement if you want to follow along in 10 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 3: the program. 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This comes to me from someone 31 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: who signs his email smug Alex Trebek. Isn't Alex Dad, 32 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 3: It's not Alexan Dye. I'm not sure, Michael Brown. It 33 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 3: is wrong for foreign governments to buy land in the 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 3: United States, especially any countries that undermine the United States 35 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 3: with terrorism. President Trump should have never accepted that seven 36 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:58,040 Speaker 3: forty seven plane from Cutters signed smug Alex Trebek because 37 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 3: the subject matter is the United States should not have 38 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:08,200 Speaker 3: a Katari base. So you've probably heard the story that 39 00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:12,040 Speaker 3: we're selling land for Cutter to build an air Force 40 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 3: base in Idaho. I'd be peep. I too would be 41 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: pretty pissed off if that were true. Let's go as 42 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: they say. Let's go to the tape. This is from 43 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 3: yesterday at about oh I don't know, maybe five o'clock 44 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 3: in the afternoon Eastern time, the Secretary of War Pete 45 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: Hegsath is signing a letter of acceptance. Now, let me 46 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 3: see what it says. The headline on this SoundBite is 47 00:02:48,639 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 3: Pegsath Today we're signing a letter of acceptance to build 48 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 3: a Katari Emery Air Force facility at the Mountain Home 49 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: Air Base in Idaho. Now, if you're drive by listener, 50 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 3: the news that sounds like, oh, we're building an air 51 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,799 Speaker 3: or that we gave land or somehow the guitars are 52 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 3: building an air force base in Idaho. Here there are 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 3: there signing the documents. Hey, we are. 54 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:19,680 Speaker 2: Honored and excited to be signing an additional agreement here 55 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:23,919 Speaker 2: with Qatar. And it's been an interesting couple of weeks. 56 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 2: I will say, yes, Stuart bark Shits, we'll glad to 57 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: welcome you here. We're grateful for the strong partnership that 58 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 2: we have, the way you support our troops at all 59 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:37,000 Speaker 2: you did, your excellency, the line of communication we've had together, 60 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:40,840 Speaker 2: which has been robust ever since the beginning of this administration, 61 00:03:41,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 2: and then especially since since the events that have transpired 62 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 2: over the last month. 63 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 1: We want to thank you. I also want to thank 64 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 1: you for the release of the. 65 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 2: Americans detained in Afghanistan. The American Amiri on September twenty eighth. 66 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 2: Guitar mediated that just like you, have been a core 67 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,680 Speaker 2: part of what has unfolded in Gaza, a historic moment. 68 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: No one other than President Trump could have achieved the 69 00:04:06,520 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 2: piece that what we believe will be a lasting piece 70 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 2: in Gaza, and Qatar played a substantial role from the beginning, 71 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,120 Speaker 2: working with our folks to ensure that came about. 72 00:04:16,160 --> 00:04:18,719 Speaker 1: So I want to thank you for that historic piece. 73 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 2: I look forward to joining the President as that gets 74 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: it's already been delivered, but as that's formally signed as well. 75 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 2: And I'm also proud that today we're announcing or signing 76 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: a letter of acceptance to build a Katari Emuri Air 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 2: Force facility at the Mountain Home Air. 78 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 1: Base in Idaho. 79 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: Location will be host a contingent of Katari F fifteen's 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: and pilots to enhance our combined training, increase the lethality interoperability. 81 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 1: It's just another example. 82 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: Of our partnership and I hope, hope you know, your excellency. 83 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: That you can count on us. 84 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,760 Speaker 2: We saw in Midnight Hammer in those moments when we 85 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: needed support of the region. 86 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:01,159 Speaker 1: That guitar was there out of doubt, without a blank 87 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: and that, by. 88 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 3: The way, Midnight Hammer is the operation to blow up, 89 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 3: to blow the crap out of the Iranians. 90 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 2: As Metagrade Deal, I've had the opportunity to see that 91 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 2: firsthand operationally. 92 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:13,800 Speaker 1: I want to thank you. I want to thank your 93 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: country for that, for hosting our troops. 94 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 3: Now, let's let's separate or sort claims from categories. You 95 00:05:23,520 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 3: want to do that, Let's let's let's start out that way. 96 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 3: A military base, whether it's well, obviously, if it's on 97 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 3: American soil, is a sovereign installation, owned, secured, and commanded 98 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 3: by a state, just as our embassies. The the Denver 99 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 3: Broncos are playing in London this weekend, and we have 100 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 3: a very elaborate, wonderful embassy in London. The grounds on 101 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:02,760 Speaker 3: which that is located in central London is sovereign American 102 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 3: soil on British soil, and in fact the ambassador's house 103 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 3: is also sovereign British soil. If you've I've been to 104 00:06:14,160 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 3: many of our embassies around the world in my travels 105 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:21,799 Speaker 3: as the Undersecretary, and they're all guarded by US Marines, 106 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,599 Speaker 3: some in dress uniforms depending upon where they're positioned, many 107 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 3: in full combat gear, full body armor, automatic weapons, everything, 108 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: and then they're supplemented by the host countries military. The 109 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:41,919 Speaker 3: same was true in Kabul in Afghanistan. The same was 110 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 3: true in the Green Zone in Iraq. That is sovereign 111 00:06:45,960 --> 00:06:52,039 Speaker 3: American soil. So just to reiterate, a military base is 112 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 3: a sovereign installation. It is owned, secured, and commanded by 113 00:06:57,880 --> 00:07:01,919 Speaker 3: the United States. If we're talking about US Air Force 114 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:07,039 Speaker 3: bases or any military base Mountain Home that you heard 115 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 3: Secretary Exith refer to is a United States Air Force base, 116 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 3: it will remain a United States Air Force base. It 117 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:20,680 Speaker 3: is sovereign American soil, and it will remain sovereign American soil. 118 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 3: Cutter happens to be funding a set of purpose built hangars, 119 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:33,320 Speaker 3: squadron spaces, and housing on that base so their air 120 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: crews can complete a training syllabus on the advanced F 121 00:07:39,080 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 3: fifteen QA that they purchased from US. That's the entire story, 122 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: I mean, that's it. We own the buildings, we control 123 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 3: the gates, We supervise every single aspect of the operation 124 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 3: as it always does when our allies train here. To 125 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 3: say otherwise, or to believe otherwise, is to mislabel a 126 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 3: routine training detachment as some sort of transfer of American 127 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 3: soil when it is not. And on top of that, 128 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 3: we have sold now I'm not quite does Lockey build 129 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 3: the F fifteen. I don't remember whoever builds the F fifteen. 130 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,520 Speaker 3: They built those for the Katari Air Force only with 131 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 3: the approval of the United States government. So when we 132 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: sell them that aircraft, we bring that aircraft onto American soil. 133 00:08:35,280 --> 00:08:37,960 Speaker 3: It's already it's built on American soil. And if we're 134 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: going to train their airmen in how to fly and 135 00:08:40,520 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: operate that so they have the full syllabus of the training, 136 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: they pay for it. We control it, they pay for it. 137 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: So Katar is going to pay for this. That shouldn't 138 00:08:56,360 --> 00:09:05,559 Speaker 3: surprise anybody. Four Military Sales framework pairs aircraft with specific training, 139 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:10,880 Speaker 3: spare parts, and facilities, and the buyer of that aircraft 140 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 3: pays for that training, those spares, and the facilities. In 141 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 3: twenty seventeen, Cutter signed for thirty six F fifteen QA aircraft. 142 00:09:22,920 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 3: That deal was about I think twelve thirteen billion dollars. 143 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 3: The separate support package that estimated about one point one 144 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 3: billion dollars covers the design and construction services, cybersecurity and 145 00:09:35,960 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 3: force protection, and all the operations and maintenance backbone that 146 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 3: makes a fighter squadron work. I want to give you 147 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: some more details because this is another great example of 148 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 3: how the left or people that don't really pay attention 149 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 3: to the details about the news all get blown out 150 00:09:56,559 --> 00:10:00,360 Speaker 3: of proportion over something that's very routine. This is the 151 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 3: Weekend with Michael Brown. Text lines always open three three 152 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 3: wednes zero three. Go follow me on next. I'll be 153 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 3: right back. Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. 154 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 3: Glad to have you with me. Be sure and subscribe 155 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 3: to the podcast. That's easy to do on your podcast app. 156 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: Search for the Situation with Michael Brown, the Situation with 157 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 3: Michael Brown, hit that subscribe button, leave a five star 158 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 3: review because that helps us in the ratings, and then 159 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 3: that will download the five days of the weekday program 160 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 3: plus the weekend program, so you get all the Michael 161 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: Brown programming. So back to this story. And by the way, 162 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,680 Speaker 3: for the person to send me to text message this said, 163 00:10:40,200 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 3: WTF why is Trump doing this? I want to know 164 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 3: what the objection is this is routine. We do this 165 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 3: with all of our allies. You would be amazed at 166 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 3: the number of different countries that come on to American 167 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 3: soil and we tell them, okay, we'll help train your 168 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:04,120 Speaker 3: pilot and you bought our equipment. Will help you train 169 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: the pilots, but you have to build the facilities the 170 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 3: housier pilots, and then when they leave, that's what we got. 171 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 3: We've got additional buildings, We have all the additional infrastructure 172 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 3: that goes to improve that Air Force base. The purchaser 173 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 3: pays the bill and we get the new infrastructure on 174 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 3: a base that we already own. It's a win win. Okay, Well, 175 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:34,880 Speaker 3: what about control? Control always lies squarely, legally, morally, ethically, 176 00:11:35,040 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 3: every way you can possibly imagine. Control lies with the 177 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 3: United States government. Entry to Mountain Home, like any Air 178 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:51,240 Speaker 3: Force base, requires US issue credentials, inspections of vehicles, compliance 179 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: with based security procedures. The air Force is the one 180 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 3: that sets the flight schedules. They're the ones that set 181 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 3: range access. They're the the United States Air Force establishes 182 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 3: all the safety rules and all the Katari personnel. Like 183 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: every single Allied student before them, trains under American instructors 184 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: who are accountable to the American commanders. So if you 185 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: know anything of how multinational training actually works, this is 186 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 3: a familiar pattern. This is something that Republican Democrat presidents 187 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:35,920 Speaker 3: have done for decades, literally decades. We don't create foreign 188 00:12:36,000 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 3: islands of sovereignty inside our installations. We host partners inside 189 00:12:43,120 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: our rules, so we can standardize procedures, we can evaluate skills, 190 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: we can raise the collective level of competence before these 191 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 3: pilots return home, so that when they end up in 192 00:12:55,800 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 3: a battle with us on our side, we know exactly 193 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 3: how to fight the battle together. Hmm. I don't I 194 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 3: honestly don't get with the media is going that the 195 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:12,600 Speaker 3: cabal is going ballistical for this? Now? Is it just 196 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 3: because Donald Trump's doing it? I definitely think I can 197 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:20,439 Speaker 3: figure out my old boss, George W. Bush did this, 198 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 3: Bill Clinton did this, Barack Obama did this, Hill's bills, 199 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 3: Lyndon Johnson did it, Jimmy Carter did it, Richard Nixon 200 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 3: did it, Ronald Reagan did it it. Just it really 201 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: does confound me that people are so wrapped around the 202 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 3: axle over this particular issue. Now you might ask why 203 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:47,000 Speaker 3: Idaho Mike, Why Idaho. If you understand anything about fighter training, 204 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 3: it needs airspace ranges, it needs proximity to a like platform. Well, 205 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 3: Mountain Home Air Force Base checks all three of those. 206 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 3: It all already hosts F fifteen E Strike Eagle units. 207 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:08,640 Speaker 3: That's the closest US analog to the F fifteen qas 208 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,520 Speaker 3: that we build and sell to our allies so our 209 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: air crews, their air crews can learn alongside squadrons that 210 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 3: have decades of operational experience and southeastern Idaho here have 211 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 3: been to Idaho? Have you ever flown from Seattle to say, Minneapolis, 212 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: you would see the uncongested well, you wouldn't see it, 213 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 3: but yet if you could listen to their air traffic control, 214 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: you would understand it offers uncongested supersonic corridors and bombing 215 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:46,080 Speaker 3: ranges that permit advanced tactics, low altitude navigation, large force exercises. 216 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 3: I used to see because I don't drive this particular 217 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 3: direction anymore, but when I would drive when for example, 218 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 3: when I was going to law school and we would 219 00:14:57,640 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 3: drive to undisclosed location in New Mexico, there is an 220 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: area that for oh, I don't know, maybe one hundred 221 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:12,400 Speaker 3: miles is just flat. It is open for as far 222 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 3: as the eye can see, and every once in a while, 223 00:15:16,440 --> 00:15:21,239 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe five hundred feet above in altitude, 224 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 3: probably more like a thousand, but sometimes really really low 225 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 3: B one bombers would just go on a training mission 226 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: because it was wide open, vast spaces which they needed 227 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 3: for their training. In Southeastern Idaho offers all of that. Now. 228 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 3: It's also the home of a longstanding President Singapore Air 229 00:15:46,920 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: Forces four hundred and twenty eight Fighter Squadron, which has 230 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:55,560 Speaker 3: operated F fifteen sgs from Mountain Home for almost twenty 231 00:15:55,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 3: years now. Now, if Singapore can successfully integrate Mountain Home 232 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 3: Air Force Base Cutter can too, the base the nearby 233 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 3: communities know how to welcome and supervise an Allied fighter 234 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 3: unit without compromising American control. Go back to Singapore for 235 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 3: a second. For more than fifteen years now, almost going 236 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 3: on almost twenty now, the Royal Singapore and Air Force 237 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:29,239 Speaker 3: has maintained a permanent a permanent F fifteen SG detachment 238 00:16:29,360 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: at Mountain Home. It's called the Buccaneer Squadron. Trained side 239 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 3: by side with the three sixty sixth Fighter Wing. It 240 00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 3: flies in gunfight exercises. It participates in base life. The 241 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 3: aircraft carries Singapore markings. They're funded by Singapore's defense budget, 242 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 3: but they live within the US base, governed by the 243 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 3: United States, and they follow US orders. Why does this 244 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 3: arrangement work Because it's simple. We provide the schoolhouse and 245 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,080 Speaker 3: the ranges, They bring the jets and students, and both 246 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,639 Speaker 3: sides leave better at the end of each class. What's 247 00:17:08,960 --> 00:17:13,280 Speaker 3: just slightly different here is Cutter is going to build 248 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:17,400 Speaker 3: the facilities. They're going to pay for the facilities. They'll 249 00:17:17,800 --> 00:17:22,680 Speaker 3: be built under our supervision, including all the cybersecurity requirements. 250 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:27,199 Speaker 3: And then when they leave, they're hours, well they are 251 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,200 Speaker 3: actually hours to beIN with and they'll stay hours. They 252 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: just won't be occupied by Katari fighters. What about Saudi Arabia, Well, 253 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 3: consider Saudi Arabia's IF fifteen SA program. When riodd Field 254 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 3: upgraded this strike EGO variant, the Air Force identified in 255 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 3: Mountain Home is the preferred site for a twelve jet 256 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 3: training unit of Saudi's. Everybody take a deep breath. There's 257 00:17:57,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 3: nothing new under the sun. There's nothing conspiratorial about this whatsoever. 258 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:11,000 Speaker 3: I'll be right back to night. 259 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA director of 260 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,240 Speaker 1: talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, No, Brownie, You're doing 261 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:19,240 Speaker 1: a heck of a job. The Weekend with Michael Brown. 262 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 3: Broadcasting Life from Denver, Colorado. Hey, so the Weekend with 263 00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 3: Michael Brown. Glad to have you with me. Appreciate you 264 00:18:24,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 3: tuning in. Let's get right to it. Text lines open 265 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:31,560 Speaker 3: three to three, one zero three, keyword Mike or Michael. 266 00:18:32,760 --> 00:18:37,280 Speaker 3: So there's all this growing tension between federal immigration authorities 267 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 3: and local governments, particularly in left leaning cities, Democrat run cities, 268 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: Marxist cities. And you're now beginning to hear discussions about 269 00:18:44,800 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 3: whether the president could invoke the Insurrection Act. It's a 270 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 3: powerful statute, the grant's extraordinary executive authority to deploy military 271 00:18:55,880 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: forces domestically. Now, there are legal tools at the resident's 272 00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: disposal to compel compliance with federal law, and the Insurrection 273 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: Act is the big gun among all of those. It 274 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:13,960 Speaker 3: is designed, and it has for decades been designed to 275 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 3: give the president sweeping discretion in quelling internal resistance or 276 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 3: violation of federal law at the heart of the insurrection 277 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,880 Speaker 3: And let me just can I give you my bona fides. 278 00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:32,959 Speaker 3: The reason I know about this is I spent a 279 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 3: considerable amount of time sitting on Air Force one with 280 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 3: White House Counsel, Deputy Attorney General, National Security Advisor, and 281 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 3: the Attorney General herself back in himself back in d C. 282 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 3: During Hurricane Katrina, we were planning to invoke the Insurrection 283 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 3: Act because there was a rebellion, There was an insurrection, 284 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:01,920 Speaker 3: there was there was low lawlessness going on in New Orleans, 285 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,719 Speaker 3: and we could not get control of the New Orleans 286 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 3: Police Department because it had totally disintegrated. So I kind 287 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,160 Speaker 3: of know what I'm talking about when I talk about 288 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act. In fact, we had gotten all of 289 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 3: the papers together and the documents were ready for President 290 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: Bush to sign when he decided to mis grant to 291 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 3: give Governor Blanco time to think about it before he 292 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 3: actually signed it, and everything went to crap after that, 293 00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:38,120 Speaker 3: Title ten, Section two five to two. Whenever the President 294 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 3: considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against 295 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 3: the US make it him practical to enforce the laws 296 00:20:45,960 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: of the United States in any state by the ordinary 297 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,119 Speaker 3: course of judicial proceedings, he may call into federal service 298 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:56,239 Speaker 3: such of the militia of any state and use and 299 00:20:56,400 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 3: use such of the armed forces as he considers necessary 300 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:03,800 Speaker 3: to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion. That 301 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:08,639 Speaker 3: language is plain, it is clear. It places the threshold 302 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 3: for action and the scope of military deployment entirely at 303 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:18,959 Speaker 3: the president's discretion, whenever the president considers is not a phrase. 304 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 3: It was written by accident. It is intended to bypass 305 00:21:23,840 --> 00:21:28,440 Speaker 3: judicial review. It makes the decision about whether or not 306 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 3: to do this a political question, resolvable only by Congress 307 00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,640 Speaker 3: and the voters if they don't like what the president does. 308 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,439 Speaker 3: The Insurrection Act overrides the restrictions of poss coomatatus. It 309 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 3: allows the military to engage in law enforcement roles that 310 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,879 Speaker 3: are normally prohibited under federal law. But once you trigger 311 00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act, it enables the president to mobilize state 312 00:21:55,680 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: militias or federal troops to restore order and enforce laws. 313 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,520 Speaker 3: In the fact, in the face of active resistance. You know, 314 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 3: kind of what you see in Chicago or Portland or 315 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 3: la or any other city where they try to prevent 316 00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: immigrations and customs enforcement from doing the most benign of 317 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:18,760 Speaker 3: all things, and that is to arrest an illegal alien 318 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 3: tape or to maintain control over a federal facility. Do 319 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 3: you know this has been done over thirty times in 320 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,920 Speaker 3: over two centuries, about once every eight years when you 321 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 3: calculate it out. Deployments of range from sending troops to 322 00:22:36,119 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: break up violent labor strikes in the late nineteenth century 323 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 3: to enforcing civil rights rulings in the South during the 324 00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,880 Speaker 3: fifties and the sixties. Let's just go. Let me jump 325 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 3: ahead for just a moment. In nineteen fifty seven September 326 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:57,879 Speaker 3: fifty seven, Governor Or Fabas of Arkansas ordered the state 327 00:22:58,040 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 3: National Guard to stop nine black students known as the 328 00:23:02,320 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 3: Little Rock Nine, from entering Central High School in Little Rock, 329 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 3: defying a federal court order to desegregate in compliance with 330 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:13,640 Speaker 3: the Supreme Court's decision in Brown versus Board of Education. 331 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 3: So President Eisenhower, the commander of the D day Forces, 332 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 3: issued executive Order ten to seven to three zero federalized 333 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:27,640 Speaker 3: the Arkansas National Guard, took it away from the governor, 334 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,400 Speaker 3: took it under his control, and deployed one thousand paratroopers 335 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 3: from the one hundred and first Airborne Division. To enforce 336 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 3: the court's mandate and to protect the students, he used 337 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: the Insurrection Act. It signaled a clear federal commitment to 338 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 3: uphold the Constitution. When the local authorities refused, President Kennedy 339 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 3: did it. He invoked the Insurrection Act in September nineteen 340 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: sixty two because Mississippi's Governor Ross Barnett had defied a 341 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 3: federal court order to allow James Meredith, again, a Black 342 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 3: Air Force veteran, to enroll at the University of Mississippi. 343 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 3: He also did it when George Wallace refused to allow 344 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 3: those kids to enter inner school. Why is everybody so 345 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:22,800 Speaker 3: wrapped around the axle over this? It is precisely what 346 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 3: is intended to do. When local authorities either obstruct, prohibit, 347 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 3: or interfere with the operations of federal law enforcement, the 348 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 3: President has the right to do it. And again, just 349 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:45,439 Speaker 3: to give you a perspective, it's been invoked about thirty 350 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,800 Speaker 3: times over two hundred years, roughly about once every eight years. 351 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:54,360 Speaker 3: The statute is elastic in the definition of what would 352 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 3: be a triggering event. Unlawful obstructions a combination of the 353 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:05,640 Speaker 3: lawful obstruction or unlawful assemblages well that could encompass open 354 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 3: defines of federal immigration enforcement directores by state and local officials, 355 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 3: as has been alleged, and as we have seen in 356 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:18,360 Speaker 3: many sanctuary jurisdictions such as Portland's, Chicago, certain California counties, 357 00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 3: Trump simply doing what other presidents have done, both Republican 358 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 3: and Democrat. Now, while Trump has not formally announced any 359 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:36,240 Speaker 3: intent to use the Insurrection Act, there's obviously speculation, fueled 360 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,879 Speaker 3: by instances in which he has publicly threatened military deployments 361 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:45,680 Speaker 3: to control unrest or to compel cooperation. When he suggested 362 00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 3: sending the National Guard in Chicago, prompting an immediate uptick 363 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 3: and enforcement actions by the Illinois State Police that accomplished 364 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 3: what he wanted accomplished without a single troop being deployed. 365 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 3: Political strategists have noted that, you know, just the threat 366 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:09,080 Speaker 3: itself might be as useful as the action itself. Clay Whitehead, 367 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 3: who's a reagant Air official, once observed the value of 368 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 3: the sword of Domocles is that it hangs, not that 369 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 3: it falls. So the Insurrection Act hangs as the sort 370 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 3: of Domocles over the heads of all of these state 371 00:26:25,240 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 3: and local officials, and Trump, finally, excuse me, it's threatening 372 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,400 Speaker 3: to use it. Just the looming possibility of federal military 373 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 3: intervention might be just the kind of pressure that resistant states, 374 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:46,880 Speaker 3: sanctuary states, and cities might push them into at least 375 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 3: grudging cooperation without the spectacle or the controversy of troops 376 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:55,600 Speaker 3: on American soil, on American streets. But I just want 377 00:26:55,640 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 3: you to understand it's been done before, so the potential 378 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 3: use of the Insurrection Act. Of course, there's political risk. 379 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: Deploying US troops to disperse violent demonstrators in Portland or 380 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 3: to secure a federal facility might be seen as proportionate, 381 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 3: might be seen as necessary by many Americans, but oh, 382 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 3: it might be seen by other Americans. For example, think 383 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,639 Speaker 3: about this, Remember all the uprisings on college campuses in 384 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 3: support of Hamas. Where are they today? Isn't it kind 385 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 3: of interesting that once a ceasefire has been entered into 386 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 3: you would think that they would be really upset. 387 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 1: But huh. 388 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:57,560 Speaker 3: I think the quiet absence of all of those Moss 389 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 3: supporters on college campuses once this agreement was reached and 390 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 3: Hammas signed off. Oh they went really quiet, didn't they. 391 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 3: That tells me that not only were they supporting Hamas 392 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: and now don't know what to do, but they were 393 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:17,920 Speaker 3: clearly anti submitting. They were clearly anti Israeli. They were 394 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,919 Speaker 3: clearly from the river to the sea just wanting to 395 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 3: wipe Israel from the face of the earth. Now, I 396 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 3: don't know whether Trump's going to go so far as 397 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 3: imp to apply the Insurrection Act or not. Now, if 398 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 3: he gets provoked by direct sustained defiance a federal immigration enforcement, yeah, 399 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:43,720 Speaker 3: he probably would. Politically, he's actually benefiting from the optics 400 00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: of the Democrats, who spent years castigating Trump over what, 401 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 3: oh he was an insurrectionist, all in the wake of 402 00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 3: January sixth, appearing insurrectionary themselves. The Democrats are by defying 403 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 3: lawful federal orders. This might be the sort of domocles 404 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: that's hanging over sanctuary cities sanctuary states. It's amazing how 405 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 3: having a leader that simply says, I'm thinking about doing 406 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 3: this just causes the cabal's heads to explode, Democrats' heads 407 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 3: to explode, Oh, I'm just thinking about it. But also 408 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: it leads many Americans to think, oh, my gosh, he's 409 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 3: acting as a dictator. Was White Eisenhower acting as a dictator? 410 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 3: Was John F. Kennedy acting as a dictator? Because in 411 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 3: my study of history that word was never used, and 412 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 3: in fact, everyone apploted. I shouldn't say everyone, but most 413 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 3: Americans applauded. Of course, white supremacist Southerners, which is not 414 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,360 Speaker 3: everybody in the South. White supremacist Southerners. Oh, they decried it. 415 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,760 Speaker 3: It was a violation of state rights. It was horrible. 416 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,320 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we're never going to integrate. We're never 417 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 3: going to do this. Yeah, well, guess what worked out, 418 00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 3: didn't it. It's the Weekend of Michael Brown. Text lines 419 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: open three three one zero three, keyword Michael, Michael. I'll 420 00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: be right back. Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. 421 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: Glad to have you with me. I want to swerve 422 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 3: into another topic for this last segment this hour based 423 00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 3: on a text message that I got earlier in the program. 424 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 3: I was talking about government spending and how government spending 425 00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 3: and fiscal policy, monetary policy adds to inflation and that's 426 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 3: why we see so many prices remaining remaining high, and 427 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: that I thought, what we ought to be doing is 428 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 3: during this shutdown, is eliminating programs, eliminating some of the workforce, 429 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: and reducing the size of government. And I get a 430 00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 3: text message from actually somebody that listens to me regularly 431 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 3: and says Michael, you're mixing terms. I'm talking about spending 432 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 3: of the government. You mentioned cutting size. They aren't always 433 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 3: one and the same. And I replied, huh, because when 434 00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 3: you cut size, you cut spending. If you don't do both, 435 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:23,840 Speaker 3: you'll never reduce the size of government. They go hand 436 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 3: in hand. And I get this reply. So cutting the 437 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:33,160 Speaker 3: spending on those USAID identified spending overseas isn't just cutting 438 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 3: off the money. Those NGOs and their related jobs overseas 439 00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 3: aren't presumably government positions. I'm talking about cutting those overseas 440 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: programs and foreign workers first. Once those are done, then 441 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 3: domestic spending can be on the table. Domestic spending on 442 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: illegal alien health care comes to mind. Comes to mind. 443 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:50,760 Speaker 1: First. 444 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 3: Those government guaranteed health care programs that have everything in 445 00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: the kitchen sinking them like what you spoke of yesterday, 446 00:31:57,360 --> 00:32:01,080 Speaker 3: come to mind. Neck come to mind. Next, getting out 447 00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 3: of guaranteeing student loans or next, that's just the beginning 448 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 3: of pairing things down to manageable levels. And I said, no, no, no, no, no, 449 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,200 Speaker 3: it's not just funding. Not to be rude, but this 450 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 3: is a basic misunderstanding of how the federal government works. 451 00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 3: I'll explain to lifetime, which I do. So the idea 452 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 3: that this listener was suggesting was cut the NGOs and 453 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: cut overseas funding funding and then focus on the size 454 00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:32,240 Speaker 3: of the government on things spent on Americans. The reason 455 00:32:32,280 --> 00:32:35,600 Speaker 3: that's a basic misunderstanding of the government how it works 456 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 3: is this, Let's take an ng O, foreign or domestic. 457 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 3: It doesn't make any difference that non government organization is 458 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: getting funded through a federal program. That federal program, let's 459 00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,440 Speaker 3: just say it exists. Let's take it outside USAID, the 460 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 3: United States Agency for International Development. Let's say it's an 461 00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,880 Speaker 3: NGO that gets funded by the Department of Commerce or 462 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 3: Housing in Urban Development or Homeland Security. I don't care. 463 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:16,880 Speaker 3: It can be anything other than a foreign program. It's 464 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 3: if it's a domestic NGO within Commerce, hud AG, DHS, 465 00:33:25,560 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 3: pick any of them. Dj DJ has them. Those NGOs 466 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,600 Speaker 3: get funded by a program office. Now when I say 467 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 3: program office, I don't literally mean oh that office that's 468 00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:43,040 Speaker 3: four doors down the hallway over there on the left, 469 00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 3: and you walk in and there's an office with one 470 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: person in it. A program office can be as many 471 00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 3: as a thousand people. I had program offices that literally 472 00:33:57,000 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: had anywhere from one hundred to five hundred to one 473 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:05,240 Speaker 3: thousand people working in an air quote here program office. 474 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 3: What did they do? They manage the program, They're the 475 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: ones that handled the grant applications. They're the one oh oh, 476 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,759 Speaker 3: by the way, before I go even further, that program 477 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: office that might have a let's just say a thousand 478 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 3: employees in it, it might also have one thousand federal 479 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 3: contractors in it. So now you've got let's just let's 480 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 3: say it's not I'm just using as an example, Booz Allen, 481 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:39,120 Speaker 3: one of the huge government contractors, huge government consulting firms. 482 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,720 Speaker 3: Within that government office. There might be five hundred contractors 483 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 3: that are paid by Booz Allen, but they're paid under 484 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 3: a contract that the federal government pays for. So let's 485 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 3: say it's a fifty million dollar contract. Of that fifty 486 00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 3: million dollars, they provide personnel, they provide some infrastructure like 487 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:08,239 Speaker 3: maybe computer programs or something. All of that then is 488 00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 3: used to then fund an NGO, and it might be 489 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 3: a domestic NGO, because I did. I had domestic NGOs 490 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 3: that we funded that helped us in disaster areas. So 491 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 3: stopping that funding is something that can be done during 492 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 3: the shutdown. It's not just foreign NGOs. Oh, I know 493 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,640 Speaker 3: they exist, and I want to shut those down too, 494 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 3: But you would be astonished at the number of domestic 495 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,960 Speaker 3: non government organizations that are funded, and they are funded 496 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:52,600 Speaker 3: through program offices that might contain even within DD or 497 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: homeland security or commerce or egg or housing in urban 498 00:35:56,120 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 3: development that might have literally thousands of federal workers on 499 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:06,240 Speaker 3: US soil. They're doing nothing but all the paperwork, doing 500 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 3: all the programmatic things that it takes to fund that INNGO. 501 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:16,880 Speaker 3: So when I talk about cutting domestic spending, that's what 502 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 3: I'm talking about. We fail to understand that federal offices, 503 00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 3: federal programs literally take hundreds and thousands of employees to administer. Now, 504 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 3: in my opinion, many of those can be pared down, 505 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,680 Speaker 3: and quite frankly, my libertarian side says, we ought to 506 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 3: just eliminate most of them because most of them are 507 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 3: just transfer payments. We're just giving an NGO money to 508 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:48,040 Speaker 3: go do well, to go do their mission, as opposed 509 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 3: to a truly federal government operation. Cut it out, get 510 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 3: rid of it. So Weekend with Michael Brown text line 511 00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 3: three to three one zero three keyword Mike ro Michael hangtight, 512 00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:03,399 Speaker 3: I'll be right back where