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Speaker 2: It is top five at five time, Shall we say

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Speaker 2: Bratshan Brian Kafan text line. We might get back to

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Speaker 2: a little bit later. Part two with Andy Lueger at

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Speaker 2: five thirty? Are we going the distance today? This is

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Speaker 2: a six thirty show. I'm going the whole way outstanding?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 4: Top five? What do you got?

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Speaker 5: We do have breaking news that we did find out

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Speaker 5: a way to get Larry Mondelo.

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Speaker 4: No, that is worth breaking news. Hold on.

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Speaker 2: And it took you a while because there's a lot

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Speaker 2: of block numbers, but you found it. I had to

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Speaker 2: scroll through hundreds, Larry Larry Mondella, you're welcome.

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Speaker 4: Blake Moore got it done.

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Speaker 2: But you know, so now I'm gonna get inundated with

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Speaker 2: although I think right now Mondelo guy, probably it's hard

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Speaker 4: Right he might want to wait a day or two.

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Speaker 2: Although you know there is there are people who say,

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Speaker 4: But go ahead, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Time now for the obligatory Kevin Faulness Minnesota Wild mention.

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Speaker 5: They lose to the defending champs, the Panthers in overtime

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Speaker 5: on Saturday. I said to me, this feels like a

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Speaker 5: There's certain things that I think this team is still

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Speaker 5: You get the point to compete against the defending champs.

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Speaker 5: So I think going into they get the Blackhawks tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: because I think they are often based on very performative strategy.

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Speaker 2: So the Wolves made the decision to postpone their Saturday game.

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Speaker 2: She had no problem with It's in Minneapolis, it's downtown.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: I just believe you're running on borrow time, having as

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Speaker 5: In the beginning of February, Nas Reid twenty five minutes,

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but still just the the title of being a

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Speaker 4: If you're late to.

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Speaker 2: Product, they come to to be aired.

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Speaker 4: Do you know I don't know, but I have it.

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Speaker 5: If you're late to practice five hundred dollars, no show

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Speaker 4: We have yet another example of.

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Speaker 2: sounds like the Allan Page we know. During his walk,

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Speaker 2: Page received several messages from friends asking about his attendants

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Speaker 2: When people are dishonest, whether intentionally or accidentally, it starts

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Speaker 2: When we lie about what we're saying and doing, we

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Speaker 2: Though Page did not protest, he understands why many did.

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Speaker 2: People are in the streets because they're frustrated, in my opinion,

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Speaker 2: and they are frustrated because of this gratuitous violence that

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Speaker 2: gratuitous violence. People are upset about it and are sending

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Speaker 2: a message that they think it's un acceptable. Many consider

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Speaker 2: Page the best defensive tackle in history. I've said he's

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Speaker 2: the best defensive player I ever saw, and I grew

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Speaker 2: Page and Lawrence Taylor the only two defensive players in

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Speaker 2: People can have their opinions about the facts that they

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Speaker 2: I think part of the reason he's bristling about the

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Speaker 4: He is his own man.

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Speaker 2: And you know, was it a stretch to think that

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Speaker 4: No, obviously not. Is it because those who.

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Speaker 2: It looks more and more as if we will have

441
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Speaker 2: an in studio visit tomorrow with a very busy man

442
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:51,359
Speaker 2: these days, Chris Maddele, who just announced made news earlier

443
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,240
Speaker 2: today by announcing that he is going to withdraw his

444
00:22:56,400 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 2: candidacy for governor in the great state of Minnesota, and

445
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: we'll have a chance to chat with him in depth.

446
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 2: I'd had some hopes of getting today, but he's got

447
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,159
Speaker 2: not surprised. I knew I predicted this earlier in the

448
00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,919
Speaker 2: day that he was going to become huge nationally overnight,

449
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:16,960
Speaker 2: and in fact, I think he's going to be on

450
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Speaker 2: CNN tonight and he's got a hit with Chris Cuomo,

451
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 2: who I believe is on the network. I've done some

452
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:31,000
Speaker 2: quick conversations with the last well today. I did it

453
00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:36,439
Speaker 2: earlier about one o'clock. A News Nation, the cable news

454
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:40,320
Speaker 2: outlet that at least in theory, is attempting to sort

455
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Speaker 2: of offer up.

456
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Speaker 4: Some kind of a bridge.

457
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Speaker 2: Between what MSNBC I think it's now called MS now

458
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Speaker 2: it's called something else, MNS I don't even remember what

459
00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,040
Speaker 2: it's called, and Fox.

460
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Speaker 4: So that's limited his time.

461
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Speaker 2: So this way we'll get extended time with him and

462
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Speaker 2: we'll talk about lots of different things. Yesterday we chatted

463
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,200
Speaker 2: with Andy Lueger once again, the US Attorney, to get

464
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Speaker 2: his immediate reaction to a cataclysmic Saturday, and we played

465
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Speaker 2: part one earlier. We're going to give the five o'clock

466
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Speaker 2: listeners the folks just headed home a chance if you

467
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Speaker 2: missed it yesterday, to get to a decent chunk also

468
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Speaker 2: of what he had to say with us we covered yesterday.

469
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Speaker 2: A lot of ground went extensively, not just on what

470
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Speaker 2: happened on Saturday, but the larger issues surrounding it as well.

471
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Speaker 2: Let's continue with the former US attorney nine to five

472
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Speaker 2: two guy writes they are here to arrest hard criminals.

473
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Speaker 2: They've arrested like ten thousand of the worst of the

474
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Speaker 2: worst in Minnesota. What is wrong with that? Insane is

475
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Speaker 2: what he writes. That number has been thrown around a lot.

476
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 2: Do we have any actual evidence that with this surge,

477
00:24:59,160 --> 00:25:04,439
Speaker 2: ice has arrested did something like ten thousand of the

478
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Speaker 2: worst of the worst criminals in Minnesota.

479
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Speaker 3: It's false, and I'm sorry to say that to the

480
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,119
Speaker 3: texture and I don't say I really want this to

481
00:25:17,240 --> 00:25:23,439
Speaker 3: be as nonpartisan as possible. This is law enforcement. The

482
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Speaker 3: term worst of the worst, which I've never liked, but

483
00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:34,040
Speaker 3: everybody uses, and I used it refers to typically the

484
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 3: people who are creating the worst crimes in your state,

485
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:43,080
Speaker 3: because people use it nationally. So the first thing I

486
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 3: did as US Attorney was convene meetings of law enforcement

487
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 3: and to say, I want the worst of the worst.

488
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Speaker 3: We had a crime wave at the time twenty twenty

489
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Speaker 3: two that was out of control, and it's gotten under control,

490
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:04,520
Speaker 3: but a still too high. And I said, who's causing

491
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Speaker 3: this crime, Who's causing this harm? And you get lists

492
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Speaker 3: of names, and this is what's sort of we don't

493
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Speaker 3: have from ice that our local law enforcement leaders. If

494
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Speaker 3: you read between the lines of the press conference that Axel,

495
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 3: Henry and Browley had, you know last week, it's pretty

496
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: simple how you do this, and everybody does it around

497
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Speaker 3: the country without a lot of inflammatory rhetoric. You literally

498
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: sit down, as law enforcement leader's job is to keep

499
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Speaker 3: people safe including the person who just texted in, And

500
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Speaker 3: so I said, I want names. I want the people

501
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,520
Speaker 3: who are the shooters, the carjackers, the gang bangers, who's

502
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 3: doing this to our community? And you get the names,

503
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,760
Speaker 3: and then you work through how can we build air

504
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 3: tight fal criminal cases if possible, or otherwise staycases against

505
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: these people, because you're telling me, as professionals who live

506
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,960
Speaker 3: here and work here, this who's caused this is who's

507
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: causing the harm. None of those people were illegal immigrants.

508
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 3: I got lists upon lists upon lists of names. I

509
00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,160
Speaker 3: reviewed the files along with the great prosecutors in the office,

510
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: and we set out on a strategy to indict all

511
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,560
Speaker 3: of them. Didn't get to all of them. They were

512
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: getting to more. After I left it, I said it

513
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 3: was going to take five years. I had three. None

514
00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 3: of those people were illegal immigrants. What they are claiming

515
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 3: are the worst of the worst. And this is not

516
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Speaker 3: a definition that anybody has used before, at least in

517
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Speaker 3: my experience. Is maybe ten years ago in Ecuador, somebody

518
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:59,120
Speaker 3: had a rape conviction, and I'm not in favor of that.

519
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:02,240
Speaker 3: They make to the break. Good for them. Somehow they

520
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 3: found their way here and they're living here illegally. They

521
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,600
Speaker 3: haven't raped anybody in Minnesota. It doesn't make them a

522
00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 3: good person, and I'm all for deporting them if that's

523
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:17,280
Speaker 3: the goal, But describing them as the worst of the

524
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:21,560
Speaker 3: worst is a scary way of getting people riled up.

525
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Speaker 3: Many of them, most of them are not committing crimes

526
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Speaker 3: here and certainly not driving the violence that all of

527
00:28:32,359 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: us want to bring down in Minnesota. I hope that

528
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Speaker 3: makes some sense.

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Speaker 2: Then we're chatting with former US Attorney Andy Lueger. You

530
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Speaker 2: are someone You're very connected obviously, and you've been at

531
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Speaker 2: your experienced here and you, I know, the last twenty

532
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: four hours talk to a lot of people, and I'm

533
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Speaker 2: curious if you can, without obviously giving away anything, if

534
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Speaker 2: you can give us any sense of what, constructively speaking,

535
00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: or at least strategically speaking, might be going on behind

536
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,600
Speaker 2: the scenes here to try to find some kind of

537
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Speaker 2: either short term or you know, hopefully as well long

538
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Speaker 2: term answer.

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Speaker 4: Can you speak to that at.

540
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,960
Speaker 3: All, I'll speak to You're correct, there are lots of discussions,

541
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 3: got things done. It's been going on for the last

542
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 3: couple of weeks. I have some role in it, maybe

543
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 3: more now. My view is this going back to a

544
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: couple of your texts rather than talking about, you know,

545
00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:45,480
Speaker 3: ten thousand and five thousand whatever worse or the worst

546
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 3: this it becomes meaningless unless you make it specific. And

547
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 3: I think this is what local law enforcement would like

548
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 3: because it's kind of what there's professional law enforcement and

549
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:03,320
Speaker 3: then there's just a stuff professional law enforcement. It really

550
00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000
Speaker 3: operates along the lines that I just talked about. I

551
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: could sit with the police chief of Saint Paul or

552
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 3: the police chief of Brooklyn Park and they would say

553
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 3: to me, look, you know, we don't have the problems

554
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 3: Minneapolis does, but here are our problems. Here are ore

555
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: twenty people who just career offenders, you know, worst of

556
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 3: the worst in our neighborhood. Can you help us with those?

557
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 3: And then you pair them with an ATF agent or

558
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 3: an FBI agent, We go and we make a case.

559
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:34,440
Speaker 3: I think that model works. If you have aggressive prosecutors,

560
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,600
Speaker 3: aggressive law enforcement, you can take this stuff down. Why

561
00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 3: not have ICE? And I worked with ICE. I got

562
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 3: along with ICE. The ICE leadership in Minnesota was just fine,

563
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 3: let's shit down with a realistic list of who you

564
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,440
Speaker 3: would describe as the worst of the worst, that maybe

565
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 3: it is the guy with the rape conviction ran Ecuador.

566
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Speaker 3: I wouldn't describe that person as the worst of the

567
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 3: we're described them as a rapist from Ecuator. But you

568
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 3: want to get that person out of here. Let's get

569
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 3: that person out of here. Let's find a professional, calm,

570
00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: realistic law enforcement way to do it that doesn't involve,

571
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: you know, this roaming of the streets and pulling people

572
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 3: out of cars. That's that's totally foreign to real law enforcement.

573
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: Let's just pick those people, let's find them, Let's get

574
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Speaker 3: them and come up with a method of doing this

575
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 3: peacefully and without violing anybody's rights. That's sort of a

576
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:39,800
Speaker 3: return to normal law enforcement with a focus on immigration.

577
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 3: Find But we don't need three thousand people. This is

578
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 3: a show. This is a show that's imposed on the

579
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 3: state of Minnesota by Washington for no real law enforcement reason.

580
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Speaker 3: That's my statement as somebody who spent a good chunk

581
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Speaker 3: of his career in law enforcement. You can agree with

582
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,440
Speaker 3: it or disagree with it, but to me a way

583
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:01,960
Speaker 3: out of this.

584
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Speaker 2: Do we not also have some evidence about the show

585
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 2: aspect of this? When I think as of yesterday, one

586
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 2: of the uh you call it requests maybe demands from

587
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:25,000
Speaker 2: the Trump administration had to do with wanting Minnesota voter roles.

588
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,520
Speaker 2: What does that, whatever you think of that whole issue,

589
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 2: what does that have to do with this search.

590
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: If this isn't a show.

591
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 3: Nothing, nothing, it has nothing to do with this search.

592
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: It should have nothing to do with this search, just

593
00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 3: like the premise that the fraud cases you know, involving

594
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 3: mostly Somolument and Sultan's has something to do with it.

595
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 3: Because I think if you go back to the beginning,

596
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 3: and it's hard with all these episodes, is to figure

597
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: out where did this start, Whose idea was? It sort

598
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 3: of began justified by the need to investigate fraud, and

599
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 3: we were told we were going to get agents and

600
00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: people were going to come here because of our fraud problem.

601
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Speaker 3: And I have not talked to Joe Thompson or of

602
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 3: our former colleagues about this because if I don't want them

603
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:19,719
Speaker 3: to tell me anything they don't want to make public.

604
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 3: And I haven't asked, they haven't said. But I can

605
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 3: imagine how frustrating it has been to have people take

606
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 3: your good work, building really important, strong cases, and then

607
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 3: all of a sudden it becomes an immigration issue. Ninety

608
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 3: nine percent of the people we prosecuted and feeding our future.

609
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 3: Maybe one hundred that certainly ninety nine. We're all Minnesota residents,

610
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 3: Minnesota City citizens. They are of Somali descent, and that's

611
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 3: an important issue you and I have talked about and

612
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 3: needs to be addressed. But it has nothing to do

613
00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 3: with illegal immigration. And when you start conflating all these

614
00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:02,239
Speaker 3: things and putting it into one pot to go, it

615
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,640
Speaker 3: loses any meaning, any real meaning. And again coming back

616
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,880
Speaker 3: to law enforcement, all the people that were making those cases,

617
00:34:12,400 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 3: who are dedicated public servants, not politicians, have now left

618
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 3: and have been fired by this administration.

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Speaker 4: Let's finish with this.

620
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Speaker 2: Let's get back to the case itself yesterday, the shooting itself.

621
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Speaker 2: I understand because you've trained me. Other people we've had

622
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:35,719
Speaker 2: on this show over the years with legal backgrounds have

623
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 2: trained me to try to be deliberate, no matter how

624
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:45,279
Speaker 2: hot emotions might run in some cases very understandably. But

625
00:34:45,360 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 2: I will tell you, on the basis of what I

626
00:34:47,480 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 2: have seen, I can't get past one aspect of the video,

627
00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:56,600
Speaker 2: and that is what appears to be in the scrum,

628
00:34:57,360 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 2: one of the Ice agents removing the perceived threat the gun,

629
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Speaker 2: bringing it out away from the scrum, at which point

630
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:15,439
Speaker 2: then the shooting starts. I can't get past that that

631
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:19,320
Speaker 2: if the whole deal is we've got to neutralize the threat,

632
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 2: and the threat is neutralized by the removal of the gun,

633
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: how can what follow possibly be justified.

634
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:34,839
Speaker 3: I won't go through the potential justifications because I want

635
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 3: to hear ultimately what the agents involved have to say.

636
00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: But there are because I've investigated a number of beads

637
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 3: and I've heard from the officers involved, and for those

638
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,400
Speaker 3: who are on the other end of the spectrum politically

639
00:35:54,480 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 3: or ideologically, I'm not justifying anything. I'm one of the

640
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: goals of the investigator or the prosecutor. Your role I

641
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 3: played in the past is to stay objective throughout the investigation.

642
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 3: From a prosecutor or investigator's perspective, the worst thing you

643
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 3: can do is approach something with what we call confirmation bias,

644
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:19,200
Speaker 3: so you see what you want to see to draw

645
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,959
Speaker 3: a conclusion you want to draw that doesn't apply to you.

646
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 3: You do whatever you want, and every citizen can do that.

647
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 3: But trained as I have been, to avoid reaching conclusions

648
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:34,880
Speaker 3: until I understand the fact I agree with you. That's troubling.

649
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:42,160
Speaker 3: There are scenarios in which you can imagine the fear remaining.

650
00:36:42,200 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 3: And I won't go through all of the right things

651
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 3: because again we got to hear the agents themselves. So yes,

652
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:53,080
Speaker 3: this is a troubling shoot. It is tragic, and I

653
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 3: say troubling because I'm trying to put my prosecutor hat

654
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 3: on and remain as objective. The The first thing that

655
00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 3: has to happen is false narratives have to be debumped.

656
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Speaker 3: When I did these investigations from the US Attorney's position,

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Speaker 3: false narratives emerge overnight. You know he was doing that,

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Speaker 3: where the officers were doing this. I can name a

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Speaker 3: bunch of those false narratives, and I would call for

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Speaker 3: everybody to stop. And sometimes people really believed what they saw,

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Speaker 3: even if what they saw wasn't accurate. So you have

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Speaker 3: to fight through all the false narratives pro and con

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Speaker 3: by the way, you know, pro prosecution of the and

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Speaker 3: com and try to get to the bottom and then

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Speaker 3: understand under the law was there a justified reasonable fear

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Speaker 3: for their safety. I'm talking to national experts who I

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Speaker 3: rely on and who I trust to, are policing experts,

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Speaker 3: and that's what people are doing in their heads right

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Speaker 3: now without access to the details. So I ought more

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Speaker 3: to say on that as time goes on. But your

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Speaker 3: right to be concerned, troubled, skeptical, what have you. I

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Speaker 3: think that the real problem here is that in this instance,

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Speaker 3: leadership from Washington leaps to conclusions and says things that

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Speaker 3: turn out to be wildly inaccurate, such as, you know,

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Speaker 3: Renee Good was running over the ran over the raws

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Speaker 3: who shot her. We got to get rid of all that,

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Speaker 3: and unfortunately, you know, particularly with the leadership from this administration,

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Speaker 3: you're just going to have that people leap to say

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Speaker 3: things derogatory about the victim, derogatory about what happened, that

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Speaker 3: has no basis in fact, and we've already seen that.

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Speaker 3: So get rid of that. Get down to the basics

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Speaker 3: of did they have a reasonable and justifiable fear for

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Speaker 3: their safety in the moment that they were shooting holly

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Speaker 3: portrayed professionals will get there and then we can debate

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Speaker 3: that there.

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Speaker 4: All right, I'm very very late.

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Speaker 2: I'll throw this out as the last one, and this

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Speaker 2: sand is from a texture. Okay, does mister Luver believe

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Speaker 2: it is reckless behavior to physically confront law enforcement while

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Speaker 2: you are carrying a weapon with the backdrop of a

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Speaker 2: very tense ongoing situation.

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Speaker 3: And in general sense, I would say, yes, here, I

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Speaker 3: don't know that that's what happened. Yes, you're carrying a

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Speaker 3: weapon and you go, you know, physically addressed law enforcement. Boy,

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Speaker 3: that's a problem and you shouldn't do it. I don't

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Speaker 3: know that that's what happened here. There's I get that,

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Speaker 3: there's you know, there's interplay between him and law enforcement

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Speaker 3: when they're trying to pull this woman away. It's complicated,

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Speaker 3: but there's more to it than what the Texture just said.

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Speaker 3: I'll leave it there.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'll just add words are important, and I believe

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Speaker 2: Christy Nome has already suggested that he was brand.

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Speaker 4: The weapon. That's a very specific word.

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Speaker 2: And there is no video I've seen that at any

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Speaker 2: point indicates he was brandishing the weapon.

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Speaker 3: That's the stuff we got to debunk and get out

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Speaker 3: of the conversation as quickly as possible so we can

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Speaker 3: get to the facts. Yes, like the last Texture just raised,

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Speaker 3: let's get to that stuff and get rid of the

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Speaker 3: brandishing and the running people over. Let's get rid of

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Speaker 3: that nonsense and get to the real fact.

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Speaker 2: Thank you for the extended time we'll chat during the week.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure, Thanks Andy. Thanks that bye bye, US attorney

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Speaker 2: Andy Lueger. That's part two of our discussion with him yesterday.

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Speaker 2: We may well have another one with him later in

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Speaker 2: the week as well. I did see an interesting observation

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Speaker 2: via the X machine earlier today. This is from a

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Speaker 2: popular writy and again I passed this along as fodder

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Speaker 2: for folks who are very angry with me today on

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Speaker 2: the right side of the aisle, he writes, I've been

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Speaker 2: doing this for twenty five years, and I can probably

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Speaker 2: count on one hand the number of times the editorial

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Speaker 2: boards of the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal,

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Speaker 2: the Washington Post, and the New York Post have all

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Speaker 2: agreed on an issue and it's variations of a theme.

726
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Speaker 2: Time for Ice to pause in Minneapolis. The unjust killing

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Speaker 2: of Alex pretty marks a turning point in Trump's second term.

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Speaker 2: What Trump's next move needs to be in Minneapolis? That's

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Speaker 2: the New York Post version of the New York Post

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Speaker 2: editorial page is extremely conservative. You could say Wall Street

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Speaker 2: Journal is, but also often it is critical of the

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Speaker 2: president if you want to dismiss it. But the Post

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Speaker 2: generally is not. And as we talked about yesterday. I

734
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Speaker 2: think now we don't know where this is headed. Holman

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Speaker 2: is either here or on his way here. He's viewed

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Speaker 2: as another sign that Tom Holman I'm talking about that

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Speaker 2: a different style rather than scorched earth, is at least

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Speaker 2: going to be in play here. Again, we'll have to

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Speaker 2: see it how different it is where it it goes.

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Speaker 2: So I guess it's too early, I think to know,

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Speaker 2: but that they're there there seems seems to be I

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Speaker 2: think growing evidence. I guess is a way I would

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Speaker 2: put it is that there's evidence that above all things,

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Speaker 2: whatever you think of him, the president ied states he

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Speaker 2: is in a very political animal. To that extent, I

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Speaker 2: think if he, if he feels it counts with him,

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Speaker 2: he's losing in the public square, even among his constituents,

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Speaker 2: that he even he will look for an exit, a

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Speaker 2: side ramp somewhere off that probably will not in any

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Speaker 2: way offer any real accountability. But we'll take this thing

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Speaker 2: in another direction. We'll see if in fact that's the

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Speaker 2: way indeed that it might go.

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Speaker 4: I want to get to.

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Speaker 2: Some of the other texts that came in much earlier.

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Speaker 4: Let me see if I can find it.

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Speaker 2: All of the Colonel Sanders and the commercials are famous

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Speaker 2: actors and actresses. Now the new guy is some big

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Speaker 2: time actor. I didn't recognize him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe he is. Somebody might be able to tell me

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Speaker 4: that greetings from Mali.

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Speaker 2: Even Churchill insisted during the blitz to recognize the Christmas holiday.

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Speaker 2: Gray ariaes but President all So president also talking specifically

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Speaker 2: about the idea of whether we play games when there's

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Speaker 2: some cataclysm locally or nationally or internationally, how quickly it's

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Speaker 2: appropriate to play games again. And I got into that

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Speaker 2: whole subject that during World War two, FDR was big

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Speaker 2: on we play baseball because actually the people who are

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Speaker 2: serving us, they want those distractions. I give you an

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Speaker 2: example I got via text. I was deployed for twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty four. My vikings going fourteen and three gave me

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Speaker 2: a reason to look forward to Sundays. I watched all

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Speaker 2: NFL games as much as I could. It was one

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Speaker 2: of the few things I had to look forward to

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Speaker 2: each week.

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Speaker 4: That's the alority of it.

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Speaker 2: It's was that being insensitive that decision the way he

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Speaker 2: that particular veteran responded, No, not, I don't think in

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Speaker 2: the least it's are there larger issues at play.

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Speaker 4: That for the greater good.

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Speaker 2: You actually in doing In playing, you're not forgetting about

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Speaker 2: the tragedy, but that you're actually trying to even if

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Speaker 2: it's momentary for some people, attempt to divert. Now you

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Speaker 2: can say day of you can't divert, but I would

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Speaker 2: say again the next day is not that easy to divert.

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Speaker 2: But we do it because at some point we figure

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Speaker 2: out we have to go on. And none of that

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Speaker 2: has to mean that we have forgotten about the story

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Speaker 2: or are dismissive of the story. And I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of as I said, sort of virtue signaling. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 2: it tends to go on at a time like that.

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Speaker 2: We have a half hour yet to go. Bratchewn and

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Speaker 2: Brian Kafan text line is open at six four, six

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Speaker 2: eighty six. I've got a couple of other things in

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Speaker 2: the hopper to discuss. In our final half hour, we'll

795
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Speaker 2: give you some details on what we have coming up

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Speaker 2: in the week as well. Tonight we've got Wolves basketball

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Speaker 2: in the fan and it's a late start. As we

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Speaker 2: were reminded, it's a I think it's a Peacock game,

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Speaker 2: so I think it's scheduled to start is it eight

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Speaker 2: thirty we decided yep, so pregame I'm assuming eight fifteen correct,

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Speaker 2: and it will be on the fan. It'll be on

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Speaker 2: the Timberwolves channel, but it will also be on the fan.

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Speaker 2: When does your team play next the tomorrow?

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Speaker 4: Tomorrow?

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Speaker 5: That's a seven here? Yes, we had who we got?

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Speaker 5: I just had it pulled up. They have the Blackhawks?

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Speaker 4: They hate?

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Speaker 2: Are they hated? They're not hated because there's not as

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Speaker 2: much rivalri as there used to be. Correct back in

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 5: I'm still scarred personally from seeing Patrick Kane.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that's hashtag aut right.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, yeah, that's that's hard to argue with that.

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Speaker 3: Uh.

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Speaker 4: We'll make this the top of the hour. Pause. Don't

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Speaker 4: go call you all Wolves fans.

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Speaker 2: I attempted to give a very defensive tutorial into why

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Speaker 2: we occasionally replay interviews because someone had described it as.

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Speaker 4: The laziest form of radio.

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Speaker 2: I tried to lay out, audience is bigger during the

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Speaker 2: week than it is on Sunday, even though we love

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Speaker 2: our Sunday listeners and I still love doing the program,

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Speaker 2: not to mention the patterns of listeners that many don't

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Speaker 2: listen start to finish day after day, and even within

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Speaker 2: a given show, there's a constant replenishing of the of

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Speaker 2: the listenership and changes to it. And a few people

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Speaker 2: have wanted to comment on that. Because we replayed in

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Speaker 2: two parts our interview with Andy Lueger yesterday. I consider

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Speaker 2: Sundy sermons and bumped and bumper listeners to be a

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Speaker 2: bit more intelligent and discriminating than the average radio listener.

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Speaker 2: But hearing some of the complaints about repeating Andy Luger's

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Speaker 2: interview makes me think those who share that opinion are

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Speaker 2: the same who would complain about being hung with a

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Speaker 2: new rope. I don't know if I get the analogy,

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Speaker 2: but I get his point that it really shouldn't be

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Speaker 2: anything that is worthy of all that much consideration, or

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be all that surprising, absolutely hilarious. People were complaining

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Speaker 2: about replaying the interview. I was only able to catch

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Speaker 2: a few minutes of it yesterday and if thinking been

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Speaker 2: thinking all day about how I should listen to it online,

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Speaker 2: really appreciate the replay.

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Speaker 4: It kept me tuned in. There you have it.

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Speaker 2: In fact, we had one guy text where here does

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Speaker 2: it go discussions?

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, here again Dan My This is from Darcy out

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Speaker 2: of Maple Plane. My compliments to you on bringing up

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Speaker 2: the discussion of what is the value of an opinion

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Speaker 2: from an actor, athlete or musician on section A topics

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Speaker 2: well stated and presented. I am sorry that I had

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Speaker 2: to get out of the car for the Andy Luger interview.

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Speaker 2: I hope that it is available to podcast later. The

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Speaker 2: co two is building up in the garage, So there

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Speaker 2: you have it.

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Speaker 4: So he listen.

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Speaker 2: He goes all the way back to the Chad and

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Speaker 2: Barrero days, which is much appreciated. By the way. By

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Speaker 2: the way, see if I can find you that I

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Speaker 2: save it. Yeah, here it is speak of the Devil.

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Speaker 2: How about this timing. There's a righty named Kyle Smith

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Speaker 2: who writes he's actually a really good movie reviewer who

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Speaker 2: writes for the Wall Street Journal. Here's the headline on

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Speaker 2: his column. I'm going to read it tonight and I'll

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Speaker 2: get back to you. Celebrities know nothing about the real world,

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Speaker 2: so why should we care about their political views, asks

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Speaker 2: Kyle Smith. The actual headline is, I don't care what

873
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Speaker 2: George Clooney says. So it's an ongoing discussion and debate

874
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 2: that we've had many times before over the years, but

875
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 2: seems to remaine once again because there are a lot

876
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:26,319
Speaker 2: of people giving Anthony Edwards heat for not going in

877
00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:28,839
Speaker 2: their mind far enough when he was asked a question

878
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 2: about the current turmoil. I had no difficult I had

879
00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,440
Speaker 2: no problem. I thought his answer was fine. Was it

880
00:50:36,480 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 2: as deep as some people wanted?

881
00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:39,279
Speaker 4: Maybe? Maybe not?

882
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I actually thought he handled it

883
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 2: extremely well. So we'll see. We started the show, let's

884
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:55,640
Speaker 2: finish where we began, which was the most recent Vikings fans'

885
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: worst nightmare from a sports standpoint, Does it get well?

886
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 2: I guess it could have gotten worse than Sam Darnold

887
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,239
Speaker 2: making the Super Bowl. It could have gotten worse, you know,

888
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:17,840
Speaker 2: it could have gotten worse if bo Nicks had stayed healthy,

889
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,680
Speaker 2: had not suffered a fractured foot or whatever it was, ankle,

890
00:51:23,160 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 2: and it had led the Broncos the home standing Broncos

891
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,719
Speaker 2: to victory over New England. Then it would be the

892
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 2: quarterback we had and didn't keep, and the quarterback we

893
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: could have drafted but didn't instead taking JJ.

894
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:42,239
Speaker 5: McCarthy, or alternatively, yeah, Aaron Rodgers of the Steelers. Yeah,

895
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 5: that Super Bowl that would have been a nightmarish as well.

896
00:51:46,280 --> 00:51:47,839
Speaker 5: I mean, you could say it to a certain extent,

897
00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:50,480
Speaker 5: it's even painful that New England made it because they

898
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,760
Speaker 5: have the kid quarterback who we did want but we couldn't.

899
00:51:54,080 --> 00:51:57,479
Speaker 5: We didn't offer enough apparently to move up to get him.

900
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:04,239
Speaker 5: But it's indicative of what was in two thousand and

901
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 5: twenty five that this season just concluded a failed experiment.

902
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 5: Now the beauty of it for the Vikings is the

903
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,479
Speaker 5: JJ McCarthy experiment isn't over yet.

904
00:52:17,160 --> 00:52:20,760
Speaker 2: He can change the story. It's the beauty of sports.

905
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:24,320
Speaker 2: It's still in his power and maybe this team's power

906
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 2: to change the way it looks. But right now it

907
00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: looks really bad because, as we talked about with Johnny Athletic,

908
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 2: Vikings fans were hoping and praying that in the NFC

909
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: title Game, Sam Darnald would revert to the quarterback they

910
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 2: saw play for the Minnesota Vikings in the postseason because

911
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,800
Speaker 2: the week before Seattle won, but he Donald wasn't credited

912
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 2: with much. Even though I thought he made a few

913
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:58,279
Speaker 2: very good passes, he wasn't asked to do all that much.

914
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 4: That was not the narrative yesterday.

915
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:07,600
Speaker 2: Three touchdown passes close to four hundred yards throwing, he

916
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:16,360
Speaker 2: outdueled or certainly matched the presumptive regular season MVP Matthew Stafford,

917
00:53:17,719 --> 00:53:21,840
Speaker 2: and was very much despite injury. Still dealing with that

918
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: oblique injury, Sam Darnold looked every bit the part he's

919
00:53:28,000 --> 00:53:31,759
Speaker 2: won victory away from the Bowl from winning it. I mean,

920
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:35,799
Speaker 2: he's in it, the guy we said no to, and

921
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,240
Speaker 2: we can give a thousand reasons why it was logical

922
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,120
Speaker 2: at the time, but believe me, it still has to

923
00:53:42,200 --> 00:53:46,239
Speaker 2: hurt at TCO regardless, and it hurts largely because they

924
00:53:46,280 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 2: haven't yet proven that the move they decided to go

925
00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:53,800
Speaker 2: with is going to work. And if you want proof

926
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,440
Speaker 2: that I'm right, well, the strategy going into next season

927
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,640
Speaker 2: is they're going to give themselves a viable alternative, a

928
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:08,560
Speaker 2: veteran quarterback. And if that's what they feel obligated to do,

929
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:11,839
Speaker 2: that tells you they cannot be as certain as they

930
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,560
Speaker 2: probably felt they were a year ago that he was

931
00:54:14,600 --> 00:54:17,920
Speaker 2: the guy either because in this case of performance or

932
00:54:17,960 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 2: injury staying healthy. Now we've learned Kevin Seaver, who I'm

933
00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,080
Speaker 2: hoping will join us tomorrow, that even a year ago

934
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:32,680
Speaker 2: the Vikings might have had a doubt or two and

935
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:37,960
Speaker 2: their intention was to bring back Daniel Jones as that buffer,

936
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,160
Speaker 2: is that guy they could turn to if McCarthy couldn't

937
00:54:41,160 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 2: stay healthy or if he struggled too much, And unfortunately,

938
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,919
Speaker 2: Daniel McCarthy pulled a fast one.

939
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:48,640
Speaker 4: No, Daniel Jones.

940
00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:51,760
Speaker 2: Pulled a fast one on him and took the Colts

941
00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:54,319
Speaker 2: job smartly knowing that there he was going to have

942
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,000
Speaker 2: a better chance to succeed and be the starter. And

943
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 2: that's the open question in terms of a track the

944
00:55:00,440 --> 00:55:05,359
Speaker 2: right guy this year, how convincing are you going to be?

945
00:55:05,360 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: Because if you have a quarterback out there who's got

946
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:10,000
Speaker 2: more than one option, and the other option is you're

947
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:15,800
Speaker 2: going to be the starter here, then are you losing

948
00:55:15,840 --> 00:55:18,040
Speaker 2: your own chance to get him or to attract him.

949
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: It's a fair question. I mean, you could even make

950
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 2: the argument that Darnald himself, deep down, even if the

951
00:55:25,560 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 2: Vikings had made a significant offer might have felt they

952
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 2: brought me back because they felt like they had to,

953
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,560
Speaker 2: but they really want to turn this over to JJ McCarthy.

954
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 2: So the first time I throw a pick six, the

955
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:44,000
Speaker 2: fans are going to be clamoring for him, and they

956
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 2: might want a change to him because they want to

957
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,200
Speaker 2: make this work.

958
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,479
Speaker 4: That's the ultimate plan.

959
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: And I think Seattle with a three year contract offer

960
00:55:57,239 --> 00:56:00,520
Speaker 2: what one hundred million, whatever it is, they made it

961
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:03,200
Speaker 2: clear you're our guy. We're bringing you in to be

962
00:56:04,400 --> 00:56:08,279
Speaker 2: our starting quarterback. So it's gonna be a painful couple

963
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 2: of weeks because you're gonna hear a lot of Darnold's stories.

964
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 4: Resurrection.

965
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: Who was it?

966
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 2: It was, Uh, who's the guy who works with Tom

967
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 2: Brady on the Fox? Do you remember his name? Kevin Burkhart. Yeah,

968
00:56:21,320 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: that's it exactly, Thank you, play by play guy. There

969
00:56:25,480 --> 00:56:28,160
Speaker 2: was a point in the game where he basically said,

970
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:31,600
Speaker 2: I don't know the word he used, but he it

971
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:33,759
Speaker 2: was basically it was very negative towards the Vices. It

972
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 2: was basically the and the Vikings just you know, moved on.

973
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,920
Speaker 2: They had no interest in them. With a wave of

974
00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 2: the hand. That's how it's gonna be viewed. The fine points,

975
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 2: the finer points of contract and options and what's practical

976
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:51,239
Speaker 2: aren't gonna be made. It's gonna be what were the

977
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:55,239
Speaker 2: vikings thinking. You have to find a.

978
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:56,320
Speaker 4: Way to make it work.

979
00:56:56,400 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: Look at this guy. What was his quarterback rating yesterday?

980
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 2: It's got to be like almost perfect, three touchdown over

981
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 2: three hundred yards, three touchdowns and no picks, right, Yeah,

982
00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 2: had to be a really good for a single game

983
00:57:11,600 --> 00:57:12,319
Speaker 2: quarterback rating.

984
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,960
Speaker 4: His rating was one twenty seven point eight. That's pretty good.

985
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 4: Pretty good, is it?

986
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 2: I'm guessing that slightly better that his quarterback rating against

987
00:57:20,880 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: the Rams last, same same team, team that killed us

988
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 2: a year ago. And you can't really say, well, Seattle's

989
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:32,280
Speaker 2: defense won the game because the Rams did also move

990
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:37,040
Speaker 2: the ball. Now, the Seattle did have a big break, right,

991
00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:39,400
Speaker 2: a muff punt that might have sort of changed everything

992
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:39,680
Speaker 2: in that.

993
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:43,280
Speaker 5: Game, right in that game, seventy seven point six, one touchdown,

994
00:57:43,320 --> 00:57:46,800
Speaker 5: one pick. Not good of A lot of people would

995
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,640
Speaker 5: say the difference would be maybe the protection could be

996
00:57:49,640 --> 00:57:53,600
Speaker 5: a factor. Protection probably enters into there too. Yeah, you're right,

997
00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 5: that's that's that's certainly part.

998
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 4: Of the sacks.

999
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: Nine times nine times just say there have there, you

1000
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:01,640
Speaker 2: have it no bonus bucks for this half hour. Well

1001
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 2: come back, remind you what you might have missed and

1002
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:07,400
Speaker 2: what we have coming up on tomorrow's very busy program

1003
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 2: as well.

1004
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 4: Don't go away.

1005
00:58:12,520 --> 00:58:15,160
Speaker 5: It's the Bumper to Bumper Show raps brought to you

1006
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:16,040
Speaker 5: by American Pressure.

1007
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:20,280
Speaker 4: Interesting.

1008
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 2: Lots of good text coming in a few I'm not

1009
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 2: gonna be able to get to today.

1010
00:58:25,120 --> 00:58:26,040
Speaker 4: The good news is.

1011
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:30,439
Speaker 2: We have I think, thanks to the work of one

1012
00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:34,320
Speaker 2: Brett Blake Moore, we have unblocked Larry Mondelo guy. Yes,

1013
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 2: you found the number among the millions of blocked numbers. Congratulations.

1014
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,720
Speaker 2: There was good work, more challenging. I thought it might

1015
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 2: be over. I thought there was maybe no way to

1016
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,000
Speaker 2: do it, and I didn't want that on my conscience.

1017
00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:48,439
Speaker 2: To be honest with you, I think it was gonna

1018
00:58:48,440 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: be very difficult for Larry Mondelo guy.

1019
00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:51,080
Speaker 3: You know.

1020
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,919
Speaker 2: Moving forward, I want to thank for the second time

1021
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 2: Andy Luger, who joined us on Sunday. We replay that

1022
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:02,760
Speaker 2: interview today. The whole show will be podcastable, and we

1023
00:59:02,760 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 2: played part one at four thirty and part two at

1024
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:10,120
Speaker 2: five thirty this afternoon. We also want to thank John Athletic,

1025
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 2: who joined us at about three point thirty this afternoon

1026
00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:17,120
Speaker 2: by telephone.

1027
00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:19,720
Speaker 4: Wolves tonight on the fan. It's a late start.

1028
00:59:19,480 --> 00:59:22,560
Speaker 2: Because it's a it's a Peacock game. I think it

1029
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:25,520
Speaker 2: must be game two, So I think opening face office

1030
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:29,400
Speaker 2: schedule for somewhere around eight thirty. Pregame show probably eight

1031
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:31,280
Speaker 2: to fifteen, and that will be not just on your

1032
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 2: Timberl's channel, but also on the one hundred thousand watt

1033
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 2: Juggernaut as well. What was the other, Oh, Tomorrow Tomorrow

1034
00:59:45,280 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 2: is Tuesday. I'm hoping Kevin Seffert will join. We're working

1035
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 2: on that. We'll see what his schedule looks like. In addition,

1036
00:59:54,040 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 2: we do expect an in studio visit with Chris maddele

1037
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:01,040
Speaker 2: the who had announced earlier today that he withdrawing from,

1038
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:06,920
Speaker 2: you know, competing for the Republican nomination for governor, as

1039
01:00:06,960 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: we talked about much earlier in the program. Don't have

1040
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:11,920
Speaker 2: a time yet on him, but that will be. It

1041
01:00:11,960 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 2: looks pretty good like we're going to be able to

1042
01:00:13,200 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 2: get him in studio, and I got a lot of

1043
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: a couple of other things kind of up my sleeve

1044
01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:23,640
Speaker 2: in in that regard that we'll probably get to. I'm

1045
01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 2: happier for Sam and all Vikings fans are jealous. Well

1046
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,240
Speaker 2: that might be true. I mean, I wouldn't blame them

1047
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:37,080
Speaker 2: if they were quite frankly out and Aften asks Dan,

1048
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 2: do you get the same level of complaints when you

1049
01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:43,800
Speaker 2: replay the Sarah Spain interview? Replaying Andy Lueger is intelligent

1050
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:52,520
Speaker 2: radio worth hearing again in any case that I kind

1051
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 2: of got a kick out out of that as well.

1052
01:00:55,200 --> 01:01:00,800
Speaker 2: You mentioned the Wilder back in action tomorrow night, which

1053
01:01:00,840 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 2: sure we look forward to as well. And it is Tuesday,

1054
01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: so Luigi's schedule has been very fluid lately, so his

1055
01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,840
Speaker 2: usual day is Tuesday. We'll see if that's the case

1056
01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:17,040
Speaker 2: this week. Well, we'll certainly have him on relatively early

1057
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:19,960
Speaker 2: in the weekend. We're getting ever closer to now. Are

1058
01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:22,560
Speaker 2: you a big You're a big hockey guy. Are you

1059
01:01:22,600 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 2: a big Olympic hockey guy? Will you be tethered?

1060
01:01:26,000 --> 01:01:28,000
Speaker 4: Do you enjoy it as much as I think you

1061
01:01:28,040 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 4: should or not so much? I love sports nationalism so much.

1062
01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 4: I just dia good. I can't get enough of it.

1063
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 5: When the four nations face off happened, I was as

1064
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:38,720
Speaker 5: locked in as ever. I think the US winning a

1065
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:42,280
Speaker 5: gold in hockey, I don't think I could compare it

1066
01:01:42,320 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 5: to a wild Stanley Cup, but it's approaching that level

1067
01:01:46,720 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 5: I agree with.

1068
01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:48,800
Speaker 4: But they've only got twice and it.

1069
01:01:48,800 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 5: Was nineteen sixty nineteen eighty's, so it's a very big deal.

1070
01:01:52,720 --> 01:01:55,960
Speaker 5: And yeah, I will be locked in as humanly possible.

1071
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 2: Paul in North Carolina, thanks for replaying the Andy interview.

1072
01:01:58,800 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 2: It has changed my perspective. And Pin I did listen

1073
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:03,440
Speaker 2: on Sunday, but was making breakfast, so he was maybe

1074
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 2: distracted a little bit. So it turns out we are

1075
01:02:07,640 --> 01:02:16,880
Speaker 2: providing what might be a public service of some sort. Well,

1076
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 2: like I said, I think the rest of the week

1077
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 2: will probably be similar to today, where we do spend

1078
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 2: some time in the toy department and some in the

1079
01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 2: A section. What will be interesting to learn is we're

1080
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:35,520
Speaker 2: seeing some signs of movement with some of the some

1081
01:02:35,600 --> 01:02:38,680
Speaker 2: of the changes in regarding who's going to be leading

1082
01:02:38,680 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: the ice operation here. The question is what about what

1083
01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 2: will change on the ground, not just in words, but

1084
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 2: on the ground. And that's going to be why it's

1085
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,840
Speaker 2: important to continue to follow this story this week, the

1086
01:02:52,880 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 2: rest of this week as well, for sure, So I'm

1087
01:02:55,320 --> 01:02:58,800
Speaker 2: as curious as as anyone else to see because it

1088
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:00,840
Speaker 2: started with the present and saying good he had a

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Speaker 2: good conversation with Governor Walls, and I believe Governor Wall

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Speaker 2: said something similar after the fact as well. So the

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Speaker 2: assumption is there's some swapping going on, there's some there's

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Speaker 2: some negotiating going on there. So who gives up what

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01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:22,480
Speaker 2: in this equation I think is what's most interesting? And

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01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: is there any reason to believe there will not be

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Speaker 2: what I think we believe last guests last more than guests.

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Speaker 2: I guess projection is that there are about three thousand

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01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:37,000
Speaker 2: agents here. Is that about in itself about to change?

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Speaker 2: There's been a lot of talk about the desire to

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Speaker 2: to make available those in the prison system. Will that

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Speaker 2: be a key breakthrough? What will be the ramifications of that?

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Speaker 2: Good chance will also be joined this week by former

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Speaker 2: Governor Arnie Carlson, who joined us last week or the

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Speaker 2: week before, because we certainly enjoyed our conversation with him

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Speaker 2: last time. I think he has some useful stuff to discuss.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Andy Luger has an op ed piece

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Speaker 2: up at Star Tribune dot com.

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Speaker 4: I don't know when he wrote.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot of it covered much of the content

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01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:25,040
Speaker 2: much of the ground that we discussed with him on

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Speaker 2: yesterday's show. But if you're interested in the written word

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Speaker 2: for Andy, that is available to you as as well.

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Speaker 2: So again the text line was brimming over. We got

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Speaker 2: to some not so much others. But we appreciate all

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Speaker 2: those who take the time to indeed reach.

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Speaker 4: Out to us.

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01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: And Brett blakemore reminds us that there is some hope

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01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 2: from a temperature standpoint, at least by the end of

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Speaker 2: the week. Although you told me Friday's a high of nine,

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Speaker 2: that's better than today. I think, what do we get

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Speaker 2: up to today?

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Speaker 4: Today? We got up to fourteen fourteen.

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Speaker 2: Because it was my when I got up this morning,

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Speaker 2: I think it was like minus eighteen or seventeen.

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Speaker 4: It was cold again.

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Speaker 5: So here's what we got Tomorrow high as eight, then

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 5: the next day nine eight nine, then Saturday sixteen, Sunday

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01:05:17,240 --> 01:05:21,200
Speaker 5: twenty three, the next Monday twenty five. We actually might

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Speaker 5: get over freezing Thursday the fifth.

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Speaker 4: You know what else I noticed? The days are getting

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Speaker 4: longer again. Think about it.

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Speaker 2: I actually I did. I am encouraged by that. Right,

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01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,800
Speaker 2: So it's not dark at four, it's four to ten.

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01:05:32,680 --> 01:05:34,960
Speaker 2: Golf right around the corner. It's not that far off

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01:05:35,000 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 2: in the State Fair. Think about it. And then we're

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01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,320
Speaker 2: gonna get a canopy this year. So I was sold

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Speaker 2: this out of time. We're gonna get the canopy. Thank

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Speaker 2: you for watching, thank you indeed for listening. Fan and

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Speaker 2: a man in the air I'm assuming is next it is,

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01:05:47,120 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 2: and then coming up at probably eight to fifteen pregame

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01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:55,000
Speaker 2: coverage Wolves and Golden State Warriors, the rematch with opening

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Speaker 2: a tip tip sometime around eight thirty. We'll chat tomorrow

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Speaker 2: beginning at three about.

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Speaker 4: Your war hobby. And that's a fasted the stories a

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Speaker 4: stadium could tell. It's frustrating.