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Speaker 2: Dan, how are you, Jeff, I'm great.

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Speaker 1: You've been doing this for the Bearcats court side for

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Speaker 3: I can't think of anything remotely close to this. This

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Speaker 1: The only one I could even remotely come up with

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Speaker 3: Maybe DJ Reader comes back. You know, he's not an

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Speaker 3: but that's one I'm not sure you can sign with

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Speaker 3: Would love either one out of the two. I think

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Speaker 3: Brian Cook is the better fit for what Cincinnati needs.

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Speaker 3: I do think that they will sign a safety because

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Speaker 3: right now they've got one that they really trust, and

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Speaker 3: even if they draft one high, they're going to need another.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, they don't need a wide receiver. But from a

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Speaker 1: Bearcat standpoint, things are lining up very well for Alec

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Speaker 1: Pierce right now, aren't they.

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Speaker 3: Alec Peerce is about to be one hundred million dollars richer.

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Speaker 3: Good for him. It's azing that, you know, the Colts

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Speaker 3: how about Jeff Caldwell. Yeah, and his performance at the

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Speaker 3: Combine probably at least becoming a drafted player. I'm not

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Speaker 3: sure that he was before that Combine performance, but he

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Speaker 3: was so spectacular that he has probably moved up to

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Speaker 1: Just the most athletic wide receiver in combine history. That's

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Speaker 1: all nothing major.

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Speaker 3: You know. We had heard about the broad jump when

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Speaker 3: he came to Cincinnati from Longwood, so we knew about

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Speaker 3: his explosiveness, but I did not expect him to run

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: So he's still got work to do to become a

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Speaker 3: I would think that somebody will take a shot drafting him.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, Al Davis is no longer with us, But Dan,

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Speaker 1: thank you very much. Have a safe trip to Fort

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Speaker 1: Worth and hopefully bring home. I'm a Bearcats win on

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Speaker 3: Gotta have it and see if they can get it done.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me on Jed.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you. Dan.

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Speaker 1: There you go, the Great Dan Horde. Just take a break.

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