1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: We head out to the Kaoie Thomas Baring Health Hotline 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: and bring on Ian or Rappaport, our NFL Network Insider 3 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: powered by Chevron. Chevron the human Energy company committed to 4 00:00:08,280 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 1: our local communities and safely delivering affordable, reliable, ever cleaner energy. 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 2: Ian, Good afternoon, Thank you so much for the time. 6 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,320 Speaker 2: How are you what's going on? 7 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 3: How you guys doing? 8 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:17,720 Speaker 2: We're doing? 9 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 4: Uh, we're doing, Grady, And I want to I want 10 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 4: to ask you to start, uh, not really an NFL question, 11 00:00:22,520 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 4: but about about football. 12 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 2: Link Iff and makes the decision. 13 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 4: He goes to LSU, were you ever hearing any buzz 14 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 4: whatsoever that there may have been a couple of teams 15 00:00:32,920 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 4: in the NFL that that reached out and engaged any 16 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:36,879 Speaker 4: interest that he might have. 17 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 3: Uh No, I didn't didn't catch wind of that at all. 18 00:00:41,960 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 5: I mean I was to me and based on you know, 19 00:00:45,120 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 5: my knowledge of that situation, it was basically always LSU. 20 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 3: That was the job he. 21 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 5: Wanted, That was the job that I think fits invest 22 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 5: And yeah, I mean it's you know, look he did 23 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 5: obviously coach in the NFL was a disaster. 24 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 3: It probably wasn't ready to be head coach at any 25 00:01:00,920 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: level at that point, right, But you know, it's there's 26 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:09,319 Speaker 3: not a good track record of college head coaches that 27 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 3: come into the NFL. And but I'm sure there'll. 28 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: Be some potential that we'll talk about, but like it 29 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 5: hasn't worked. 30 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,959 Speaker 3: So I feel like at some point people will say, 31 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:23,080 Speaker 3: you know what, let's just try and a gout coaches 32 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 3: and believe it there. 33 00:01:25,959 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 6: And when we watched the game yesterday, Justin Herbert suffered 34 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 6: an injury to his hand and I think he had 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,559 Speaker 6: surgery today. Long term, how does this impact him? Because 36 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 6: I know I was reading something earlier and they said 37 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 6: that he was trying to play in next week's game. 38 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:42,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if that's going to be possible. Well, 39 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 6: what is your thought process on his injury and now 40 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 6: it impacts the charges moving forward? 41 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, So, first of all, he hasn't had surgery yet, 42 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 5: but he will today probably actually probably doing it right now. 43 00:01:57,520 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 5: He is planning to play on Monday, and they have 44 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 5: the extra day they played the egos, I believe, so 45 00:02:03,000 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 5: he is planning to play on Monday. 46 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 3: And you know, it sounds to me like the. 47 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 5: Surgery doesn't hurt his window, like surgery to kind of 48 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 5: secure it and make sure that the bonus repaired to 49 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 5: the metacarpal fracture. That probably if anything accelerates things. 50 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 3: So you know, he's got a chance to play. We've 51 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 3: seen Aaron Rodgers do it all all injuries are not 52 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 3: the same, but ice Aaron Rodgers do it. 53 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 5: With a wrist injury a week after this is a 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,679 Speaker 5: hand injury, but it's the same week. 55 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 3: So you know, my sense is that's possible, and I 56 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 3: believe he's planning to do it. 57 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: We were just. 58 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: Talking about the Broncos win, as you would imagine moments 59 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: ago on Sunday Night Football. Was what was your takeaway 60 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:48,600 Speaker 1: from that game and more specifically of the Broncos nine 61 00:02:49,040 --> 00:02:51,160 Speaker 1: game winning streak now sitting in top of the AFC. 62 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 3: You know, I mean, first of all, it wasn't surprising. 63 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,320 Speaker 5: That's basically they've played versions of that game so many 64 00:02:58,320 --> 00:03:00,960 Speaker 5: different times. I thought, you know, the play at the 65 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 5: end was interesting because you know, you can sort of 66 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 5: look at it and say, well, you know, the two 67 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 5: point conversion I'm talking about. 68 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 3: You said, well, you know, the Commanders it was open. 69 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 3: You know, it was I think it was Jeremy McNichol 70 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: was the running back. It was open, it's like, well, yeah, 71 00:03:15,960 --> 00:03:16,840 Speaker 3: it was open. 72 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:21,200 Speaker 5: But part of the reason that happens is because Nick 73 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 5: Benito is going to get after the quarterback and get 74 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 5: in the way and kind of ruin the play. And 75 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 5: he has been unbelievable this year, really building off what 76 00:03:28,160 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: he did last year. And you know, it was a 77 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 5: similar kind of ending we've seen, which you know, I 78 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,839 Speaker 5: think for some people, especially early on, it's like, well 79 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 5: the Broncos. 80 00:03:37,640 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: Really that good. 81 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 3: They've sort of like pulled out some games in the end. 82 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 3: It's been a little crazy, but at some point you 83 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 3: do it enough and it's not random. At some point 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 3: it's like, all right, well, this team actually. 85 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 5: Knows how to really knows how to win and play 86 00:03:51,320 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 5: in crunch time when. 87 00:03:52,240 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: It matters most. And that really does seem to be 88 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: one of the core characteristics of this Broncos team, you know. 89 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:00,240 Speaker 4: And when the season started, or actually before where the 90 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:03,560 Speaker 4: season started, I think the usual cast of characters most 91 00:04:03,720 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 4: people felt would be the ones that towards the end 92 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 4: of the regular season would be fine for whatever playoff 93 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 4: spot that they could attain. I mean, with Patrick Mahomes 94 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 4: and Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. But it's been I mean, 95 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 4: it's been a crazy year when normally maybe one of 96 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 4: those teams with one of those guys falls off, but 97 00:04:24,560 --> 00:04:28,159 Speaker 4: Joe Burrow got injured. I mean, those four teams that 98 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 4: over the last few years have been right atop the AFC, 99 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,520 Speaker 4: they've all had their issues and all of them, for 100 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:36,239 Speaker 4: various reasons, have slipped back. 101 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's been a really interesting, strange year for sort 102 00:04:40,360 --> 00:04:42,800 Speaker 5: of like the teams that are always always in the mix. 103 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: You mentioned, you know, Jeeves and the Raymond. Raymond started 104 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 3: with a horrific start. Jeeves have sort of you know, 105 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: been up and down. 106 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 5: I think trying to you know, really trying to get 107 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:57,320 Speaker 5: some sort of footing and get to a point where 108 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 5: they can. 109 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 3: Really play some consistent football, and it hasn't happen yet, 110 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: you know. And so what that's done is open the 111 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 3: door to some of the others. And you know, I would. 112 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 5: Say this, Sean Payton has never been shy, and he's 113 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 5: been talking about having a team that. 114 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:15,159 Speaker 3: Is good enough to be in the Super Bowl since 115 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 3: the preseason. 116 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 4: Yep. 117 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: So I think, well a lot of people are surprised. 118 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 5: He's no dummy. 119 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,360 Speaker 3: And I never got the. 120 00:05:22,360 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 5: Censor was like a motivational technique I got essentially really 121 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 5: believed it, and now it's sort of like really wouldn't 122 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 5: be that much of a surprise. 123 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 6: And at the start of the season everyone was wondering, 124 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 6: what was this relationship between Ben Johnson and Caleb Williams 125 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 6: gonna look nice? And right now they are nine to three, 126 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 6: they have a number one seat as far as today 127 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 6: is concerned. 128 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 2: What has been your what has been your. 129 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:51,960 Speaker 6: Take on the Chicago Bears and what you're seeing from 130 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 6: them and the quarterback position. 131 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: You know, we'll start with the quarterback position. I think 132 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 3: it's been okay. You know, Caleb seems receptive. He showed 133 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 3: a lot of the athleticism and reasons why he went 134 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 3: number one. 135 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 5: Overall, you know, I think down in and down out, 136 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 5: the passing game has probably not been what they wanted. 137 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 3: There's definitely some inconsistency there. But when you hire Ben. 138 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 5: Johnson, what you get is one of the more creative 139 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:20,760 Speaker 5: offensive attacks we've seen in one of more creative run games. 140 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 3: So like I was at the. 141 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:27,479 Speaker 5: Eagles Bears game on Friday, and that was a full 142 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 5: dominant performance by the Bears offensive. 143 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 3: Line and by the various running backs. Two of whom 144 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 3: had over one hundred yards. So it's like, you know, 145 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 3: whatever you want to say about Calebe, if he just 146 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 3: makes enough plays, they're fine because their run game and 147 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:44,480 Speaker 3: their offensive. 148 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 5: General is so good and so efficient that they can 149 00:06:46,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 5: sort of handle everything else. 150 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: Last one I have for Ian. I always appreciate the 151 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: time coming. Going back to the conversation the question Dave 152 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: had about how topsy turvy this season has been, and 153 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,240 Speaker 1: I think a lot of ways it makes more interesting, 154 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: a lot more fun. 155 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: Who do you believe in? In the AFC? 156 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: Like, and you're taking a look at the standings right now, 157 00:07:03,520 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: And I'm not doing this because I need you to 158 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:07,960 Speaker 1: say the Broncos, although that would be fun, but that 159 00:07:07,960 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: that has been the big topic right now is like, well, 160 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:13,520 Speaker 1: you got the Buffalo Bills are the seventh seed, right, 161 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Kansey Chiefs are the ten seed in Baltimore 162 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:17,760 Speaker 1: sort of hanging on by a thread at the four 163 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 1: those teams we usually say we believe in, and here 164 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 1: we got all these newcomers at the top. 165 00:07:22,520 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: So in the AFC, I don't know, what do you 166 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:24,680 Speaker 2: believe in? 167 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I'm still trying to figure that out, 168 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 3: because you could say, you know, one of the more. 169 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 5: Efficient teams was the Colts for a long time yep, 170 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 5: and now it's like als like it's slipping away a 171 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 5: little bit and the Texans defense is awesome. Actually, Texans 172 00:07:39,480 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 5: sort of remind me the Broncos. I think haven't won 173 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:44,680 Speaker 5: as many close games, but two more makeup of a team. 174 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: And so it's like the one thing we're all going. 175 00:07:47,360 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 5: To have to be comfortable with is like a football 176 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 5: watching public is understanding the characteristics of a team that 177 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 5: we're not used to talking about in January. 178 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 3: So it's like, you know, people are going to say, 179 00:07:59,520 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: and I'm so. 180 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 5: Of one of them, but people are gonna say, you 181 00:08:01,840 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 5: can never count the Chiefs out, and. 182 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 3: It's like, well, true, definitely true. 183 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 5: They have Patrick Malmes if he watched them, they don't 184 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 5: really look like the Chiefs at all this year. And 185 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 5: so you know, that's what this December and early into 186 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,160 Speaker 5: January is going to be about, is understanding like which 187 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 5: teams really can bring it, regardless of what their names are. 188 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 5: And I think that's really going to be fun because 189 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 5: it's going to introduce a whole bunch of new characters 190 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 5: to be football watching public. 191 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 1: One last quick one, Adam Delan released today. Do you 192 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: have any kind of thoughts about what teams might be 193 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 1: interested in him? 194 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: No, but you know the I don't think it'll be 195 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 3: the Panthers, you know, can he help someone? I think 196 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:43,959 Speaker 3: maybe he's definitely looked a little different this year. I mean, 197 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,880 Speaker 3: sometimes this is sort of what the end looks like. 198 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 5: And it sucks because Neil had a great career, but 199 00:08:49,520 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 5: like you know, couldn't really contribute for an offense that 200 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,240 Speaker 5: has not been exactly stellar. 201 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,840 Speaker 3: And I'm not sure how much he has left. 202 00:08:57,880 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 5: I think best case he'd latch onto a play operate 203 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 5: a team, but I just don't know that there's that 204 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 5: many spots available on those offenses far in some short 205 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:06,560 Speaker 5: of injury. 206 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:07,640 Speaker 3: But we'll see, all right. 207 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 2: We'll see. Ian. Always appreciate it, man. We'll check you 208 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 2: on the next week. 209 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 3: Okay, look forward to it. 210 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: Thanks guys, Thank you. Ian Rappaport our NFL Network Insider