1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:01,960 Speaker 1: I my friend, good afternoons or how are you? 2 00:00:02,240 --> 00:00:03,520 Speaker 2: What's going on? How you guys doing. 3 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 3: We're doing great, getting fired up for the postseason here 4 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 3: and of course the big news Justin Herbert along with 5 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 3: it sounds like per Jim Harbaugh, coach Harbaugh, several players 6 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 3: for the Chargers are not going to play in this game. 7 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:15,480 Speaker 1: What are you hearing? 8 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, once once you get win that the 9 00:00:18,840 --> 00:00:20,480 Speaker 2: quarterback is not going to play, then I think it's 10 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: all sort of up for grabs, and you know, it's 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 2: it's pretty significant now, like, look like Trey Lance, maybe 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: he plays well and you know, maybe something crazy happens, 13 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,280 Speaker 2: and who knows, and you never know, but it certainly 14 00:00:33,360 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 2: seems like, you know, you're looking at the Broncos maybe 15 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,320 Speaker 2: getting the number one seed, and you know that can 16 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 2: have fall ranging ramifications. 17 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 4: But I think if you're the Chargers, really real important 18 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 4: thing that matters is. 19 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: Like do you have a shot at winning the Super Bowl? 20 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:48,720 Speaker 2: Like do you have a shot at getting to the playoffs? 21 00:00:48,960 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 2: And Justin Herbert's pretty banged up, and I think obviously 22 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 2: without him they don't. 23 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: So you know, this makes sense. 24 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 2: You know, this makes sense from from sort of their 25 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 2: stamp point, but it does affect a lot of other teams. 26 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 5: So, Ian, what's the latest news on Lamar Jackson, Because 27 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 5: this past week and we saw Derrick Henry featured in 28 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 5: the way that we haven't seen featured all season long, 29 00:01:14,440 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 5: and I know having Lamar Jackson back in the fall 30 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 5: would definitely give the Ravens a boost against the Steelers. 31 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: Do you think that he could actually play? 32 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 2: I think he could actually play. Now, you know, the 33 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:28,720 Speaker 2: Ravens are being cautious. They don't want to assume anything. 34 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 2: You know, I would say, the way it's healed, they're optimistic. 35 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,320 Speaker 4: But you know, we've seen a couple of these times. 36 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 2: Where you know, they've thought that Lamar was gonna play 37 00:01:37,319 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 2: and he hasn't. When he was coming back from his 38 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: hamstering injury, I think they're pretty you know, optimistic that 39 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 2: he was going to go and then just couldn't. Now 40 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: when he came back, he was okay, but just couldn't 41 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: go at that point, So they, you know, they're being 42 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:51,160 Speaker 2: a little more cautious. 43 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: But committing to Derrick Henry like they did, committing to. 44 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:56,600 Speaker 2: The run game like they did. They got a nice 45 00:01:56,600 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: little change of pace with Keithon Mitchell that that's kind 46 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 2: of used regularly and keep it Derrick Kennery. Not about 47 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 2: fresh but fresh ish. 48 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 4: They seem to have found something. 49 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 2: It's just a matter of can they get past the Steelers. 50 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 4: And you know, look if. 51 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Lamar plays and if he's looking like his old self 52 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: and they're gonna run the ball like they are, the 53 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 2: defense is good, like they might have something. They might 54 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,519 Speaker 2: be this Ravens team that we thought they were all along. 55 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:25,640 Speaker 3: So interesting with these two teams, right because it's a winner, 56 00:02:25,720 --> 00:02:28,560 Speaker 3: go home situation. We're not used to seeing that necessarily 57 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: for Mike Tomlin and John Harbaugh. But what do you 58 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: think about those two coaches position with their respective teams, 59 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: assuming one of these obviously is not going to get in, 60 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: What does this mean that they're on the hot seat? 61 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I don't know about hot seat though, 62 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 2: I'm gonna have asked a lot of questions about it. 63 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,920 Speaker 2: And it's the NFL, and you know, you really never 64 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 2: know who's on the hot seat and who's not because 65 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: I think anyone, you know, the seat can get very 66 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,080 Speaker 2: warm suddenly, and we've seen it happen. I mean, the 67 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 2: Ravens just gave Harbor an extension last year. And he is. 68 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,760 Speaker 4: You know, if they were going to move on from him, 69 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: they'd have to have somebody. 70 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 2: Better, and then it's like, Okay, well who's better? And 71 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: I think same thing for Tomlin. 72 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,519 Speaker 4: You know, I think when Mike Tomlin leaves. 73 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:14,640 Speaker 2: The Steelers, it'll be when he decides he wants to 74 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: take a break. That's what it's going to be. 75 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 4: It's not going to be when everyone's asking questions. 76 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 2: It's not going to be. It's just going to be 77 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 2: when he decides. That's the compilation he has with the organization. 78 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:28,079 Speaker 4: It's not totally the same with Harball, but again. 79 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 2: Like they believed in him enough to give him a 80 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 2: big extension before the season. So unless they knew for 81 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 2: sure they were getting somebody better, which honestly, look at 82 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 2: the coaches available and who even is that, it would 83 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: certainly be a risk. 84 00:03:40,680 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 5: I saw something coming in today about Marcus Freeman, Notre 85 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 5: Dame head coach, and the fact that he was actually 86 00:03:46,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 5: returning back to Notre Dame. How big was kind of 87 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 5: the push from you know, NFL team to possibly get 88 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 5: him to jump from college football to the pro game. 89 00:03:57,840 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: I mean, I think there was interest. 90 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 2: You know, I think if he would have gotten a 91 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Giants interview, probably would he really have done it? You know, 92 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: I don't know. I think part of the problem is 93 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 2: if you're the Notre Dame coach, yes, I mean, the 94 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: NFL is alluring, it's it's interesting, but you always have 95 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,560 Speaker 2: a pretty good team coming back. And I think if 96 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 2: you're Marcus Freeman, you know, there's been several. 97 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,840 Speaker 4: Times where he's been like, yeah, maybe the NFL, but I. 98 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:23,039 Speaker 2: Got this guy coming back. I got this guy coming back. 99 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,080 Speaker 2: I can really, you know, could win a national championship 100 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:30,840 Speaker 2: this year. And I think that's that's something that generally 101 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 2: keeps those guys there. And I think the other thing is, 102 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 2: you know, we haven't seen a lot of examples of 103 00:04:36,400 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 2: college coaches coming to the NFL and really succeeding. I mean, 104 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 2: Harbaugh to me doesn't count. Well, he's not anymore because 105 00:04:43,240 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: you know, he obviously was coaching the forty nine ers 106 00:04:45,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 2: before he went back to college. So you know, I 107 00:04:48,960 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: don't know that anything's a short thing, but certainly when 108 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 2: you change genres essentially both from college to the NFL 109 00:04:55,839 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 2: is not a short thing. So I don't know that 110 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: it really really would have happened. 111 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,120 Speaker 3: What's your take on what's going on with the Raiders 112 00:05:02,279 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: Max Crosby situation, as well as Pete Carroll's future. 113 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 2: Well, Pete Carroll's future, I think it's fair to say 114 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 2: is pretty much in doubt. I mean, I get you know, 115 00:05:12,360 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 2: I get a strong sense that, you know, I get 116 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:18,280 Speaker 2: a strong sense that they'll move on from him, and 117 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:20,640 Speaker 2: we'll see what happens. It's Mark Davis, you never really know, 118 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 2: but you know, it's been such an unbelievable disaster that 119 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 2: it's really it's really tough to imagine them moving on 120 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:31,119 Speaker 2: with him. As far as Max, you know, we'll see, 121 00:05:31,160 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 2: because you know, it's the only organization he's been with. 122 00:05:34,360 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 2: They paid him a couple of different I think three 123 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 2: times they've paid him. I've talked to Mark Davis, the owner, 124 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 2: about it, and every time I've talked to him, he's 125 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: talked about that that's someone he just could not trade. 126 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,720 Speaker 2: So in order for that to happen, he would have 127 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 2: to relent. But on the other hand, you know, if 128 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: they do trade him, then I think you're looking at 129 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,640 Speaker 2: a full rebuild, which you're going to get the number 130 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: one pick and you're not, you know, inches away from winning. 131 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 2: That makes to me so it'll be a fascinating off 132 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:04,880 Speaker 2: season Las Vegas. But if they do rebuild fully, I 133 00:06:04,920 --> 00:06:06,239 Speaker 2: would say that would make some sense. 134 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 5: And do you think that NFL talent evaluators need to 135 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 5: reevaluate their evaluation process? 136 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 1: And here's what I mean by that. 137 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 5: Last night we saw two quarterbacks, one and mister irrelevant 138 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: and the other guy in King Williams, who people really 139 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 5: said that he was a bus at his first year. 140 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:26,600 Speaker 5: But those two guys put on one hell of a show. 141 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 5: So is it time for us to kind of rethink 142 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 5: this evaluation process of quarterbacks? 143 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know that there's a better way 144 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: or there's any indicator. I mean, that's the problem. Is 145 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 2: like I go through it every year where you talk 146 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:43,880 Speaker 2: to the best people available, talk to experts, and they'll 147 00:06:43,920 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 2: tell you that, all right, this guy is a sure 148 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 2: fire success. That's like Trevor Lawrence is a great example. 149 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 2: You know, early on with Urban Meyer, he was bad, 150 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,559 Speaker 2: and then with Doug Peterson he was pretty good until 151 00:06:59,560 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: he was not that good, and then halfway through the 152 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:06,040 Speaker 2: year with with Liam he was not very good, and 153 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:07,320 Speaker 2: now he's very good. 154 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 4: And it's like, what did that all even mean? 155 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:12,040 Speaker 2: It's just so hard. I mean, Jayden Daniels was not 156 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 2: very good this year. Last year he was great. I 157 00:07:14,560 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 2: just I think, really the only thing I would reevaluate 158 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 2: is how we all judge it. We as like a 159 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: football watching public. And then maybe, you know, maybe we 160 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 2: put too much emphasis on strength and speed instead of 161 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:29,960 Speaker 2: ability to process. I think that would probably be the 162 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 2: other thing, But that's kind of come up in years. 163 00:07:32,640 --> 00:07:36,080 Speaker 4: I think Brock probably you know, caused all. 164 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 2: Of us to learn that processing and understanding is as 165 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 2: important as anything. But it's so inexact that, you know, 166 00:07:44,320 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: I'll have the smartest people every year. Tell me, I 167 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: know this quarterback's not good and he ends up as 168 00:07:49,640 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 2: Josh Allen. 169 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: Great point ian. Always appreciate it, man. 170 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: We will check in with you after the conclusion of 171 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 3: the regular season next week. 172 00:07:57,680 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: Appreciate you. 173 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 2: Wow, that's crazy about all right? Thanks? 174 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: All right there, all right, Thanks you and rapping Fort