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Speaker 1: And Super Bowl sixty is in the books, ladies and gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks are champions of the National Football League.

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Speaker 2: They get it done in fairly convincing fashion over the

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Speaker 2: New England Patriots. And now the rest of the National

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Speaker 2: Football League figures out, what do we do? How do

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Speaker 2: we match? Where do we go? Ben Lieber, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: watched every single minute of it, he joins us via

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Speaker 2: the Connectico Water Systems hotline, and as we welcome you back,

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Speaker 2: I must tell you I'm a defensive purist. I have

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Speaker 2: never been offended by hell ten to seven games of

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Speaker 2: my childhood. I I got no problem. I don't need

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Speaker 2: fifty two to forty eight, Okay, but I got it.

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Speaker 2: I gotta get your view on this, because I didn't

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Speaker 2: come away convinced that most of what I saw yesterday

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Speaker 2: was simply a matter of two great defenses going at it.

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Speaker 2: Albeit it looks like Seattle is very good, but as

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Speaker 2: much about pretty lousy, unimpressive offense and not real accurate

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Speaker 2: quarterback play, what says Ben Leeb.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say it's probably the same, especially from

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Speaker 3: the Patriots standpoint. I think there was a conservative approach. Conservative,

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Speaker 3: but strategic approach by Seattle that ended up working out.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I thought it was like uninspired play, poor performance,

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Speaker 3: and almost to the point where the Patriots looked like

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Speaker 3: they didn't deserve to be there. And you know, you

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Speaker 3: go back to the Denver game, and Mike, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think we can all look back down and say, well,

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Speaker 3: if bo Nix was healthy, that should have been a

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Speaker 3: better representation of AFC versus what we saw yesterday. Now,

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Speaker 3: I would say most of the time, I'm sort of

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Speaker 3: a defensive purist, and I do love all the blitzeing

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Speaker 3: and the guysing of blitzes and the chess match that happens.

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Speaker 3: But again, when I look at it from like, well,

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Speaker 3: you're just overwhelming them because they're not a good team,

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Speaker 3: I didn't love that.

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Speaker 2: I'm with you on all of that. I came away

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Speaker 2: thinking that probably the two best teams at the real

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl was Rams Seattle. That likely they were the

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Speaker 2: two best teams, especially as you mentioned, with Denver missing

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Speaker 2: It's It's It's quarterback. And I say that to introduce

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Speaker 2: the subject to Sam Darnold, because Darnald I didn't think

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Speaker 2: was brilliant yesterday, but he was awfully good in the game,

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Speaker 2: the NFC title game that got them here, and it

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Speaker 2: did look like one of the lessons he learned, maybe

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Speaker 2: this is easy when you play with a really good

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Speaker 2: defense all year. Is I gotta live, I gotta do.

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Speaker 2: I gotta live with my philosophy. Should be live to

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Speaker 2: fight another down or even another series. It's not the

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Speaker 2: end of the world. If I take a sack, it's

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Speaker 2: not in the end of the world. If I throw

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Speaker 2: the ball away, I just simply can't give the ball up.

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Speaker 2: And then he understood that was probably the only way

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Speaker 2: New England was going to have a chance to stay

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Speaker 2: in that ballgame.

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Speaker 3: Well something somebody must have got to him. And you know,

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Speaker 3: it's not like it's a big secret, but you take

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Speaker 3: care of the football and you get a lot of

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Speaker 3: win a lot of games. And you know what was

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Speaker 3: the stat They're the only team, only team in the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl era to go through the playoffs and not

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Speaker 3: have a single turnover on offense.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, good point.

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Speaker 3: You know I think I think when you when you

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Speaker 3: look at what we saw Sam last year, is that's

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Speaker 3: one hundred percent the case. If you've got a defense

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Speaker 3: that can apply the pressure, keep points low for the

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Speaker 3: opposing team. All you have to do is just not

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Speaker 3: make the catastrophic mistake. And shoot, we even saw that

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Speaker 3: with Josh Allen. You know there, you know some some

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Speaker 3: times where all you got to do is just not

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Speaker 3: hanging out loose and you turn the ball over. You know,

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Speaker 3: it's like little things like that will kill you. And

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Speaker 3: they did a great job through the whole postseason of

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Speaker 3: just taking care of the football and relying on their defense,

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Speaker 3: relying on a good run game, and kind of you know,

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Speaker 2: And their coach was he's younger than ours, isn't he?

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Speaker 2: Is he thirty six? He's thirty six years old. So

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Speaker 2: I think it's like, is it the second or third

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Speaker 2: the guy who understands everything there is to understand about

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Speaker 2: offensive football. But I guess we are reminded again there's

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I do think that there is It seems

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Speaker 3: led by their defense versus their offense. But I think

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Speaker 3: we focus on especially a recency bias of Patrick Mahomes

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Speaker 3: and we're like, oh my gosh, you gotta find this

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Speaker 3: some plays. But we also have to remind ourselves in

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is what I would think that, Yes,

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Speaker 3: get enamored and it's very sexy to see this offense

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Speaker 3: And that's what happened yesterday.

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Speaker 2: So you know, what did you see from Drake May?

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Speaker 2: I mean there's a part of me that says it's

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Speaker 2: a little bit unfair to grade him on too hard

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Speaker 2: the whole postseason it's weird.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: He had some really nice scrambles, I guess, and a

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Speaker 2: he was number one in the league. What happened to

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Speaker 3: You know, I wonder if that shoulder injury, specifically in

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Speaker 3: this game like mattered. You know, you didn't see a

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Speaker 3: lot of design runs, and that's something that he showed

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Speaker 3: throughout the whole season, not a lot of design runs.

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Speaker 3: He seemed very apprehensive to use his legs. He did

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Speaker 3: I don't think that Josh McDaniels did him any favors.

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Speaker 3: I mean, there was a lot of just like really

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Speaker 3: Is that you know, are we better than that? Or

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Speaker 3: houses is going to shake out? And they sort of

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Speaker 3: and we, because of weather, really didn't know who they were.

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Speaker 3: But I say overall, his playoff performances weren't great, certainly

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Speaker 3: But if they if they fix that offensive line and

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Speaker 3: they give him some more time, I think he's very

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Speaker 2: Did you ever, in the course of your distinguished pro

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Speaker 3: But what's funny is that I was involved, you know,

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Speaker 3: I think he was just like the guy from yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He was shirtless. Okay, he was running along our sideline

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Speaker 3: So I made him like redirect enough to where they

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Speaker 2: The one I think opportunity a player, even in two

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Speaker 2: of that's that's an uncivilized reaction. You know, you you're

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Speaker 3: with who at all from a player state safety standpoint,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they are they good player.

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Speaker 2: Now, you don't want to get you don't want to

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Speaker 2: I don't think that's in football. I'm trying to think

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Speaker 3: Us I mean guards, he would know. I mean it

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Speaker 4: True, Yeah, you're that close, You're that close to the

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Speaker 3: We can you know, that's a trend we could try

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it makes sense, I think, And I don't know

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Speaker 3: Like who who does that? What's the rationale of trading

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Speaker 3: So I think first John Buss, they happened a lot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the number, the salient numbers are that, for example, Seattle,

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Speaker 3: Well, the thing is, I agree with you, like all

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Speaker 2: No, not at all.

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Speaker 3: Is it part of the formula? And just kind of

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Speaker 2: Media jackals are all trying to speculate. They've all seemingly

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Speaker 3: I think number one is Kirk Cousins. It is which

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Speaker 3: I think this is just a strategic move by them

437
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Speaker 3: to formally announce that they don't have no plans to

438
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Speaker 3: trade him. I think I definitely think that he's a

439
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Speaker 3: touchable asset. I would say those right now are are

440
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Speaker 3: the most likely without really getting the head of yourself

441
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Speaker 3: leveraging the future too much.

442
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Speaker 2: Is Cousins at the top of your list because you

443
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Speaker 2: believe he's the most realistic, or because you like him

444
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Speaker 2: the most of those you've laid out.

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Speaker 3: I would say I probably like Derek Carr than the best.

446
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Speaker 3: I think he gives you a little bit more mobility,

447
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Speaker 3: but he's unproven in the system. I mean from just

448
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Speaker 3: a from just if we're just comparing current skill sets,

449
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Speaker 3: and as long as long as the shoulder checks out,

450
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Speaker 3: fine and he's just as strong as you get the

451
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Speaker 3: ball down the field, like him is a better option

452
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Speaker 3: just because he can't escape just a little bit more

453
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Speaker 3: and buy you more time. Certainly, not like I wouldn't

454
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Speaker 3: put him in athletic category, but I'd probably put him

455
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Speaker 3: at number one and then Kirk number two, because he's

456
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 3: he's been there, he's proven it. It would be seamless,

457
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Speaker 3: very easy transition. We would just need the offensive line

458
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Speaker 3: to really step up and give him the protection.

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Speaker 2: If you're handicapping the division right now, and this is

460
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Speaker 2: probably impossible to answer because you know, we don't know

461
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Speaker 2: who that other quarterback is going to be, and there's

462
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Speaker 2: a lot of open questions at this point. Give me

463
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Speaker 2: not how you think they're going to finish in twenty

464
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Speaker 2: twenty seven, but how they should be regarded at this

465
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Speaker 2: point within the division. Where do you are the Purple

466
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Speaker 2: last of the four? Is that too low for them?

467
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Speaker 2: Where do you put the Purple? Huh?

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Speaker 3: I would put them third right now as it stands,

469
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Speaker 3: right now, you don't have a confident quarterback situation. I

470
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Speaker 3: think the Lions, I would actually put them at the bottom.

471
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Speaker 3: There's something about their aura without their coordinators from two

472
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Speaker 3: years ago that just seems off. And I know they

473
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Speaker 3: have a lot of talented players, but I think they

474
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Speaker 3: also have some contract situations and getting some of these

475
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Speaker 3: players back. Their defense has been a mess the last

476
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Speaker 3: couple of years, and I'd put them at the bottom.

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Speaker 3: I would put probably, I know this sounds crazy, but

478
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Speaker 3: I'd put Green Bay at the top in the Chicago second.

479
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Speaker 3: And the reason I put Chicago's second is like, I

480
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Speaker 3: love what Caleb can do, but he's still a fifty

481
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Speaker 3: percent passer, and you shouldn't need him to find some

482
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Speaker 3: sort of his magical bag of tricks at the end

483
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Speaker 3: of every fourth quarter just to win football games. So

484
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Speaker 3: I think that from a comfort level, I think week

485
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Speaker 3: in and week out, Green Bay probably gives you the best,

486
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Speaker 3: the best chance to win.

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Speaker 2: Good to catch up, Welcome to the Abyss. The football season, well,

488
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Speaker 2: the football season, I guess never ends, quite frankly because

489
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Speaker 2: of all the other things in the schedule, more than

490
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Speaker 2: any other sport. But we are at least at the

491
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Speaker 2: end of the of the games. And what I, like

492
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Speaker 2: I said, thought was, I don't know. I mean to me,

493
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Speaker 2: if I'm a team I look at this season, Oh god,

494
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Speaker 2: this is great. This was a season was a great

495
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Speaker 2: opportunity to make a run because I don't really think

496
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Speaker 2: any of the teams, even Seattle, I don't know that

497
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Speaker 2: I classify even Seattle is a great team. I mean,

498
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Speaker 2: good for them, they're good enough, they want it. But

499
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Speaker 2: I didn't feel like we had, you know, great greatness

500
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Speaker 2: out there at the top.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, yeah, I would agree that it's

502
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: kind of weird how college football in the NFL were

503
00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,400
Speaker 3: pretty parallel this year. I think everybody kind of felt

504
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,679
Speaker 3: the same thing about college football, like it was the

505
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 3: perfect year year for a team like Indiana to win it,

506
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Speaker 3: because it just didn't seem like there was like the

507
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Speaker 3: true creams of the crop and you know this stallwart

508
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Speaker 3: top eight teams or something like that that were just

509
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:08,439
Speaker 3: like loaded with talent. So yeah, unfortunately, I think, you know,

510
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 3: we were in a situation where I think if we

511
00:26:12,160 --> 00:26:14,440
Speaker 3: had better quarterback play and did not turn the ball over,

512
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Speaker 3: we all we all know what the defense did, we

513
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 3: could have made a serious run in the postseason. So

514
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Speaker 3: you know, should could and it's disheartening. But I definitely

515
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Speaker 3: think Seattle they earned it. They showed everybody, especially in

516
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Speaker 3: the postseasons, they were legit they could win, they could

517
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Speaker 3: win football games with all three phases, and they did that.

518
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Speaker 2: We'll see in training camp right around the corner for

519
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Speaker 2: you know, I'm sure.

520
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Speaker 3: I'm sure we're going to be talking free agency. It's

521
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 3: gonna be some there'sna be some big names, you know,

522
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 3: quote unquote big names on the Vikings roster that are

523
00:26:47,200 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: not going to be on the team here in the

524
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Speaker 3: short term. So we have plenty of talk.

525
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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's plenty to there has to be, And you

526
00:26:54,240 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: got the weird decision. I don't know if it's weird.

527
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 2: It's interesting that they're not going to go out, you know,

528
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Speaker 2: not going to do the general manager search until after

529
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Speaker 2: this draft. There's a lot of stake this year, Ben,

530
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: I mean there really is too. There's a lot you know,

531
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Speaker 2: this team for all the obvious reasons that they need

532
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Speaker 2: to make some hay. Oh.

533
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Speaker 3: The reshaping of the organization is happening this offseason for sure.

534
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 3: I mean and not just from I mean players come

535
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 3: in and out every year. We all know that there's

536
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:25,520
Speaker 3: turnover with every team. But when you when you possibly

537
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 3: bring in an outside GM that has different views and

538
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 3: a different staff, I mean, yeah, this this potentially could

539
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:36,760
Speaker 3: be and will be in organizationwide reshifting and redirection of

540
00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:37,480
Speaker 3: this franchise.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Leber. We appreciate the bonus time. We'll be

542
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Speaker 2: in touch, all.

543
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Speaker 3: Right, No problem, be good now you're going with you

544
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Speaker 3: have fun.

545
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Speaker 2: You too, Ben Lieber helping us out as only he

546
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 2: can indeed do. Is good to have been back for

547
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Speaker 2: at least this week. Is there enough to do? Do

548
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Speaker 2: you want to do a five to twenty sports fix er?

549
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Speaker 2: You could? Yeah, we could sound very happy about it. No,

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Speaker 2: we could. I I got to figure out what I'm

551
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Speaker 2: gonna tease with now I left in that position. We

552
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Speaker 2: could do it because you don't have to tease.

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Speaker 4: Oh, we've got super Bowl, We've got the Wolves apart,

554
00:28:11,200 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 4: We've got all and then after that, I think we

555
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:18,320
Speaker 4: got to revisit what I put off earlier, our conversation

556
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Speaker 4: with Johnny Athletic, because there's a couple.

557
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Speaker 2: Of things they continue to bug me. It's kind of

558
00:28:24,160 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: stuck in my craw that I think people are being,

559
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:30,399
Speaker 2: maybe inside the organization a little bit too philosophical about.

560
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Speaker 2: So that'll give us a chance for both of us

561
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Speaker 2: maybe to rant on that particular subject. Wolves, by the way,

562
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Speaker 2: in action tonight, right right here on the fan. Who

563
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Speaker 2: is it tonight? It's the return of naw Na. Yeah,

564
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Speaker 2: Niki Alexander Walker.

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Speaker 4: Thankfully we have his replacement. Finally, it took us four months,

566
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Speaker 4: but we've got one. He was only minus thirty three

567
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Speaker 4: at his first game. Should we give him another chance?

568
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 4: Does he want another chance? That's the question was your

569
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Speaker 4: tweet yesterday, I think.

570
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Speaker 2: We got all wet it h the Prince halftime show

571
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: that was off base, very very premature and trolley you

572
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Speaker 2: had no idea. No, the one related to the fact

573
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 2: that maybe he thought he had never left Chicago based

574
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Speaker 2: on all the off court stuff, locker room stuff that

575
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Speaker 2: seemed to be taking place for a team that looked

576
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Speaker 2: awful the last two games. Back with a mini five

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Speaker 4: she suffered a complex to be a fracture that will

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Speaker 4: quote require multiple surgeries to fix properly. And she gives

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Speaker 4: you want to talk about a full pelf? She basically

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Speaker 4: gives a description of how the crash happened. I was

595
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Speaker 4: simply five inches too tight on my line when my

596
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Speaker 4: right arm hooked inside of the gate, twisting me and

597
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Speaker 4: resulted in my crash. Now is this a half pelt?

598
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Speaker 4: Because she says my acl and past injuries had nothing

599
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Speaker 4: to do with my crash whatsoever. I won't read the

600
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Speaker 4: whole statement, but it's there, and she's actually got a

601
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Speaker 4: picture of her right arm hitting the gate moments before

602
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Speaker 4: she crashed, And there you go.

603
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Speaker 2: So you know, is it a full pell for a

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Speaker 2: half pelt? I don't know if it's eat. But what

605
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Speaker 2: I want to say to her, she's not waiting for

606
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Speaker 2: approval from the bumper to bumper program, I don't think

607
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 2: at this late juncture. However, what I want to say

608
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Speaker 2: to her is, God, there's another great camera angle on

609
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 2: the ski jumping, just tremendous. It's just I'm losing myself

610
00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 2: in all of that. It's beautiful. It is a beautiful scene. Anyway,

611
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:25,959
Speaker 2: Here's what I would say to her, respectfully, What difference

612
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Speaker 2: does it make even if the knee injury the ACL

613
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 2: would have had something to do with it, that's still okay.

614
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 2: It's almost like she's so defensive about wanting to fire

615
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Speaker 2: back at people who are going to say, well, of course,

616
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Speaker 2: that's what happened. That's what happens when you try to

617
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Speaker 2: try to compete on an ACL. And I would say,

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Speaker 2: who cares, It doesn't matter. It was her choice to

619
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Speaker 2: do it. She maybe being accurate and for the record

620
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Speaker 2: and wanting just to make the point. But I let's

621
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Speaker 2: go ahead. Let's say that had that contributed to it,

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Speaker 2: had a lot to do with it, then I would

623
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Speaker 2: still say that doesn't take away her right to go

624
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Speaker 2: for it and to try to do what she did right.

625
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Speaker 2: To me, it doesn't make any difference. You're saying, I'm

626
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Speaker 2: trying to find the sounder that I want because, yeah,

627
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Speaker 2: we need to get we need to play this while

628
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Speaker 2: we can. I'm glad you remembered this. Yeah, and we

629
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Speaker 2: have to play this. Yeah, it's a good one.

630
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Speaker 4: This is the iHeart approved Olympic team. We get sued

631
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Speaker 4: by Tariko, who's already on site. You know, he took

632
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 4: a plane right at first of all, to Rica is

633
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 4: in trouble Mike.

634
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 2: He got ripped from who was the actor who was

635
00:32:44,480 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 2: actually a Jets fan. They identified as a Patriots fan.

636
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: The comedian who's also gone on to motion pictures. He's

637
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Speaker 2: one of your favorites. I set him saying, yeah, oh really.

638
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 2: Somebody said, I though it was a New York post

639
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 2: had something that he identified him as a big time

640
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Speaker 2: at the game, like as a big time Patriots fan.

641
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Speaker 2: He's actually a Jets fan. Interesting. I think he's from Massachusetts,

642
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 2: but maybe he's from New York. I don't know. I

643
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Speaker 2: have no idea anyway.

644
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Speaker 4: Tarico, by the way, so he does the he does

645
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Speaker 4: his hosting on the field last night, Yes he did,

646
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Speaker 4: and then he gets on a plane and he's already there.

647
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Speaker 4: He's in studio. Yeah, he's doing the past. He probably

648
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Speaker 4: didn't travel commercial. No, somebody actually tracked the I think

649
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Speaker 4: two planes that they had for NBC people, because a

650
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Speaker 4: lot of NBC people work in football, are going to

651
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Speaker 4: work the Olympics, not just Tarico, producer's camera people, the

652
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Speaker 4: whole deal. I mean, I'm a broadcasting nerd, so the

653
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 4: Tarico thing fascinates me. I what an opportunity and like

654
00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 4: he's so good, Like he's.

655
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: Just he is very good. He's very versatile, he's so calm. Yes,

656
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: like he's obviously so prepared. A few people wear better

657
00:33:45,680 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: than he is because he's not. It's not precocious, he's

658
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 2: not bombastic. But I don't think he's boring either. I

659
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 2: think he does a really good job.

660
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 4: He's yeah, he is the Cory's you want the local angle, uh,

661
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 4: Cory Dropkin and is it Cory Thiese In the mixed

662
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 4: curling today, Halby popped up today with as much vigor

663
00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 4: as I've seen nice since he ran across the al

664
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 4: Shaver press box to tell us about hermantown in the

665
00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 4: US is headed to the mixed doubles final in curling

666
00:34:18,640 --> 00:34:21,720
Speaker 4: for the first time because of the Cory's a riveting

667
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:27,759
Speaker 4: the semi final against Italy home country Italy nine to

668
00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: eight in the eighth end. So curling is always US

669
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 4: and wis is a big deal. They're Duluth based because

670
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,080
Speaker 4: why wouldn't they be, Because that's what we do. That's

671
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: the well, that's where we're kind of the curling capital,

672
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:39,960
Speaker 4: are we not?

673
00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 2: We should be? Whatever happened to the Jared Allen experimented

674
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 2: a curling. Did it ever go anywhere? Not really.

675
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 4: I think it went to the trials. Yeah, but I

676
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 4: don't know if he ever hy on that. Yeah, I

677
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 4: don't know if he ever got into it. I was

678
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 4: at a five to nothing final with US and Switzerland

679
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: today for women's hockey. So that's good. The men have

680
00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 4: a first their first game on Thursday. Parker Fox watching

681
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: his fiancee Taylor. He says, arena looks good. Everybody was

682
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: worried about the arena. All you shock jocks were worried

683
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 4: about the arena. Says, everything looks good. He's drinking a corona.

684
00:35:10,840 --> 00:35:12,040
Speaker 4: What a gig for Parker Fox.

685
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,919
Speaker 2: Good. It's a great opportunity for sure. That's outstanding. Comes

686
00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 2: on with Pa I think today. Yes, yeah, he called in.

687
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:22,640
Speaker 2: I kind of call him. Uh, he's this generation's Lindsay

688
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 2: Whalen's husband, my buddy Ben.

689
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 4: Yes, he's kind of the new generation. Yeah, you're at

690
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 4: you know, college athlete. Ben played golf national champion. But

691
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,600
Speaker 4: it's not bad to be mister Whale.

692
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 2: No, not at all. No, it's been good for Ben.

693
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: It's great for Parker. Right now where the gallery down

694
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,080
Speaker 2: at the bottom of the skich. Even that looks like

695
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,000
Speaker 2: a great set up there.

696
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,840
Speaker 4: This is how many more days until you text me

697
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,360
Speaker 4: and say I'm going I'm going to Italy?

698
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I wish it'd be nice, but it's probably a

699
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 2: little it might be a little late now to get

700
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: the post credentials might be might be difficult. Maybe tickets,

701
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 2: I don't know. Did tickets sell well there? I don't

702
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:01,879
Speaker 2: have any idea how they've been doing on tickets. Looks

703
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 2: like it's I mean the slopes look it looked packed

704
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 2: for sure. Look nice. I could use a little more snow,

705
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to add to the atmospheric So,

706
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:12,279
Speaker 2: I mean the winter background's nice. How about a little

707
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 2: bit of snowfalling and we get that arranged.

708
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 4: I would like actually, and somebody tweeted about this, I'd

709
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: like we were watching it on Friday night. Some of

710
00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,919
Speaker 4: the trial runs on the slopes here, and the course

711
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 4: was shut down because they're basically like a pothole. I mean,

712
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,400
Speaker 4: it's basically like Gerbschmidt was out there. There was like

713
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 4: a pothole on the course from a previous fall that

714
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 4: they had to fill in and fix. And it's amazing

715
00:36:34,280 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 4: to watch you know, the workers they've got to be

716
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:39,799
Speaker 4: on skis too, and so it's amazing to watch them

717
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,319
Speaker 4: navigate the hill and the slope and you know, get

718
00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 4: the gates where they need to be, and how they're

719
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,919
Speaker 4: smoothing off the course and then they got to paint

720
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 4: it over here. I'd love to just watch that when

721
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,759
Speaker 4: Peacock needs to have one of those. They can do

722
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,960
Speaker 4: anything on the streaming platform. Peacock just needs to follow

723
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 4: around the people.

724
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 2: And the maintenance. Yeah, and the maintenance. Yeah, it's amazing.

725
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:00,879
Speaker 2: Do we still have our sound bite?

726
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 3: Uh?

727
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 2: Somewhere I think I just saw, well, some somebody else

728
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:09,160
Speaker 2: is saying Sandler is a Patriots fan. I'm just I'm

729
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: I'm just here reporting what I was told. And maybe

730
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: it was fake what we call the business fake outrage.

731
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:18,200
Speaker 2: I I don't know, but there there was the accusation,

732
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 2: because everybody's got a gotcha, everybody's got to get somebody,

733
00:37:22,400 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 2: even him, so not I'm not particularly surprised. Oh yeah,

734
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 2: that's pliant, so majestic, Sochi sochi. Do you have the

735
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: other one? So chi perfect? We had three of them, such,

736
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 2: what about the other one? Yeah? Where's Peong Chong hang On?

737
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:52,960
Speaker 2: And they were. Weren't there like two or three pronunciations

738
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:56,839
Speaker 2: of that as well? Yeah? When was that? I don't

739
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,399
Speaker 2: back to that? Go how far back to SOCI goes.

740
00:37:59,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 4: Doesn't SOCI twenty twelve or twenty fourteen? It's too long, man, Both.

741
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:10,800
Speaker 2: You me both and I know you know you mentioned

742
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:14,719
Speaker 2: the uh the broadcast crews. You know that they need

743
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 2: because you got a bunch of people going over in

744
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 2: the planes. Pi Yeong Chung, Pyong Chong, very good, different one.

745
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 2: Pieng Chang, Well that's very different. I remember we had

746
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:27,480
Speaker 2: the discussion there was vision there which way we go? Yeah,

747
00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:28,839
Speaker 2: I think I like the first think the first one

748
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: sounds more majestic the second one, p Yeong Chung. I

749
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: love that. That's well done. Sarajevo was I think eighty

750
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 2: four Winter Olympics. That's the first one I covered. And

751
00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:44,440
Speaker 2: the best part about that trip was in December before

752
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: the Olympics, there was a media junket over there that

753
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 2: I was allowed to go on, and it was basically,

754
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 2: so you're in a plane with all the ABC. This

755
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 2: is then it was ABC experts, right, it was like

756
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,759
Speaker 2: Jim McKay, it was Peggy Fleming, the all time great

757
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 2: figure skater she was on on the trip, and so

758
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,000
Speaker 2: you get all this access ahead of time. Yeah, it's

759
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 2: different with the media people. It was tremendous to have

760
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,279
Speaker 2: that opportunity and then you go there, so then you

761
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 2: get an idea. Okay, here's what Sadiyevo is like. This

762
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: was by the way before it got destroyed by the war.

763
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, it as you said, I mean, most times

764
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 2: for the Olympics, I gotta say, I feel like the

765
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 2: networks have done a good job. The people they've ended

766
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 2: up using have all been pretty good, you know, good

767
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:35,480
Speaker 2: to very good, and that those are back in the

768
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:38,879
Speaker 2: ABC wide world of sports days now, NBC pretty much

769
00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 2: owns everything, correct. They got Sunday night everything they do.

770
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: So they got Sunday night Football, they got Sunday Night Basketball,

771
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 2: they got Sunday Night Olympics. They got everything, and Tarico

772
00:39:49,239 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 2: can handle all of it pretty much, and he does it.

773
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: The Wolves are back in action tonight. We'll see what

774
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 2: kind of mood they're in. Maybe we should Maybe tonight's

775
00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,240
Speaker 2: giveaway should be like a mood ring should be everybody

776
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 2: gets a mood ring and you figure out because apparently

777
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 2: they are a bunch of brooding teenagers.

778
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 4: You have a teenager, you can speak to it. I

779
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:09,760
Speaker 4: have like a pre teen where it's already like seeping

780
00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:11,640
Speaker 4: in where it's like, this is what the next five

781
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 4: to six years are going to be.

782
00:40:12,800 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: Like, we're going to get into it in more depth.

783
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 2: And after the five twenty Sports fix, for sure, the

784
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: whole thing is bizarre. It's it it's almost getting a

785
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:20,720
Speaker 2: little bit goofy.

786
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 4: But they've got the plucky Atlanta Hawks tonight Atlanta twenty

787
00:40:24,680 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 4: six and twenty eight, two games before the All Star breaks,

788
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 4: and that's really all I got on the Wolds enough.

789
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 4: It's like you'll hear it right here in the fan

790
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,840
Speaker 4: tune in what Allen Horton's got for Yeah, how motivated

791
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 4: will not be tonight? Nikukiel, like we said he's been,

792
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 4: He's averaging over twenty points a game. He's been a

793
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:45,280
Speaker 4: huge find for the Atlanta Hawks.

794
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: I'm not completely surprised that he's emerged because there he's

795
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:51,080
Speaker 2: a little higher in the pecking order. They had all

796
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,040
Speaker 2: kinds of injuries, wh's had a chance to emerge, and

797
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 2: here he was always going to be kind of an extra,

798
00:40:56,760 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 2: you know part, And that again is what I think

799
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:08,759
Speaker 2: Iodsumu represents is giving you a reasonable fact simile of

800
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 2: what the Wolves were missing with no replacement for naw

801
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,520
Speaker 2: Right that he can got to give him a minute.

802
00:41:15,560 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 2: I mean, he looked a little bit lost this last game,

803
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 2: but he can score, he can handle the ball, he

804
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: can guard, and he's pretty good sized. He's about six

805
00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: foot four. So the assumption is he's going to be

806
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: a big part of this team moving forward. And as

807
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,480
Speaker 2: Johnny reminded us, who knows we might be able to

808
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,600
Speaker 2: get another score via the buyout. That's part of the

809
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 2: reason that Mike Conley return has been delayed and probably

810
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: will be delayed. I'm hoping and assuming that once Conley

811
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,800
Speaker 2: rejoins the club will have a chance to get reacquainted

812
00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:49,759
Speaker 2: with him on the air, and doing so break the

813
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,439
Speaker 2: bumper to bumper curse. His return. I think breaks the curse.

814
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 2: I agree with you. I agree with you.

815
00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 4: There's a lot of gnaw revisionist history going on so well,

816
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 4: just that the limited on the budget, Yes, because who

817
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 4: was it, Oh, I think it was it was Simmons

818
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:11,360
Speaker 4: and your guy, Zach Lowe. They did kind of a

819
00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 4: trade deadline podcast, right and in it they basically said

820
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 4: the Desumu move in their mind makes the Wolves a

821
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: legit title contender, especially because that's one of the things

822
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:22,920
Speaker 4: that they've been missing. But because they said, well they

823
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 4: never you know, they they they didn't pick Nikhil Alexander Walker.

824
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 2: Well, it's like it's not that simple, like when you

825
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,239
Speaker 2: didn't reject him. Yeah, you can't make it everybody. And

826
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:34,600
Speaker 2: it's not like nas Reed has been a bus no right,

827
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,839
Speaker 2: so he's also moody. Apparently everybody's moody. Nah, I don't

828
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: think was moody. He's always in a good movie. So

829
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: maybe that's maybe we should have kept him and got

830
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: rid of one of the moody guys. But na or

831
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,759
Speaker 2: what his remember we though we talked about Conley was

832
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 2: going to get his first career technical on this team

833
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 2: because rather than lift us up, he was going to

834
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: be dragged down by the rest of them because he

835
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,399
Speaker 2: never complains. Now, I had a great quote today though

836
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 2: at shoot around, talked about being back and Minnesota it's

837
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: so special and he loved it here like everybody loves sarcastic, right,

838
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: But he brought it up and then he said, my

839
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 2: son was born here, and I'm paraphrasing the second part.

840
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,200
Speaker 2: And I'd like to think that this version of Nikhil

841
00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:18,960
Speaker 2: Alexander Walker was born here as well. Who said that Nikkeiel?

842
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 2: Oh interesting, it's a great quote. So he wasn't doing

843
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 2: the you know, they didn't need me and now I'm

844
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 2: gonna make him paign. No, he was doing the this

845
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:27,759
Speaker 2: is where I became, where I became who I am?

846
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 2: I mean now? And the fact that I could sign

847
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,360
Speaker 2: a huge By the way, did you see who's apparently

848
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: not showing up so far in Washington? Not reporting? Anthony Davis?

849
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: He's to come here. I don't know where he's gonna end.

850
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 2: We got the money to bring him back. Hit a

851
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 2: couple of shots. Who's to say? You want to talk

852
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 2: about moody though? Can a team with this many moody

853
00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: players possibly handle another even moodier player?

854
00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 5: D lion?

855
00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: My god? All right, let's leave it at that. I've

856
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: got a bit of sound I sent to you. It's

857
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:09,200
Speaker 2: a morgana the Kissing Bandit moment evolving the legendary Lakers

858
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 2: play by play voice Chick hern And we also have

859
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:16,840
Speaker 2: some requests people wanting us to play at some point today,

860
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: the Famous Wide World of Sports opened the thrill of

861
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,400
Speaker 2: victory and agony of defeat. The narration opened with some

862
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 2: great horn sound as well, because their point is the

863
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 2: Lindsey Von moment would have been perfect for the thrill

864
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 2: of victory and the agony of defeat. Back in just

865
00:44:35,000 --> 00:45:00,120
Speaker 2: a minute here in the fan, Allen and af And

866
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,160
Speaker 2: wants to know if there'll be a Doctor Dan's Inbox

867
00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: anytime soon. The answer is yes, we've hit the abyss.

868
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,680
Speaker 2: We try to stay away from the Inbox for a

869
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 2: few weeks, given all that was going on here locally,

870
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: But the plan right now, I think this is a

871
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 2: good week to resume with the inbox.

872
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,560
Speaker 4: Unless you are you out anymore? Are you out Thursday? No,

873
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 4: I'll be out early Thursday, but we'll have time to

874
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:23,160
Speaker 4: do the inbox.

875
00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 2: We will have time. Okay, well let's do the inbox.

876
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:29,160
Speaker 2: Bring that back on Thursday. Another nomination for Kyrie Irving

877
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 2: to Minna. Irving to Minnesota. I just have not gotten

878
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 2: any sense that that's unless I've missed a story that

879
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 2: Dallas is in the move to make that move, do

880
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: you I've not heard. I thought they were, but maybe

881
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:46,439
Speaker 2: there's been some changes on that. I'm not exactly sure.

882
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 2: Stay tuned. We'll keep an eye on that. Oh, let's

883
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 2: go ahead and play the Wide World of Sports thriller

884
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:01,959
Speaker 2: victory Agony of Defeat opened that we've the iconic open

885
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:04,439
Speaker 2: back in the day when this was in the days

886
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,000
Speaker 2: when ABC was doing a lot of the international stuff,

887
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: including several Olympics, although the Wide World of Sports wasn't

888
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 2: Olympics related. It was literally the Saturday show in which

889
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,440
Speaker 2: they they did pride themselves on that program of covering

890
00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:27,720
Speaker 2: esoteric stuff, including cliff diving. Believe it or not, they

891
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: used to cover you want to talk about esoteric cliff

892
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 2: diving as a competition, So it wasn't just bats and balls.

893
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,279
Speaker 2: It was a lot of different stuff, a lot of

894
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: winter sports, et cetera. I think it's Jim McKay on

895
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:49,240
Speaker 2: the narration spanning the globe to bring you a constant

896
00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:59,279
Speaker 2: variety of sports and the agony of the beat. Yeah,

897
00:46:59,320 --> 00:47:08,560
Speaker 2: that's good stuff. The human drama of athletic competition is

898
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 2: ABC's Wide World was Sports. Yeah, that's good work. That's

899
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 2: good stuff. And I think I've mentioned this before, the

900
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:22,440
Speaker 2: Agony of defeat on that show forever. The video that

901
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,879
Speaker 2: you saw film back then was of a ski jumper.

902
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:28,320
Speaker 2: We were talked, we're watching ski jumping today or tonight

903
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:35,239
Speaker 2: from Milan Courtina and Milano Cortina, and it was a

904
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: a ski jumper named Vinko Bogatage. And by the video

905
00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,839
Speaker 2: you'd have thought he was dead. I mean he went

906
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,680
Speaker 2: off the side of the track. Oh yeah, he's cartwheeling

907
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 2: in the air and he survived it. In fact, we

908
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 2: ended up in eighty four we got a chance to

909
00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,560
Speaker 2: talk to him. We found him. I don't think he

910
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 2: was competing at that point, but we found Vinco Old

911
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:01,160
Speaker 2: Vinco Bogotage. I can't remember a name from last night

912
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,359
Speaker 2: or earlier in this show, but I can remember that name.

913
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:04,960
Speaker 2: I don't know what that says. I guess that's all

914
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 2: age related. Who's to say? Lastly we were talking. This

915
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 2: will throw a callback to our discussion how we ended

916
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: up talking MORGANA The Kissing Bandit with Ben leeber Well.

917
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: I know what it was. We were talking about the

918
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,840
Speaker 2: streaker or the guy who he wasn't really naked but

919
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 2: he had I think his shirt off who went out

920
00:48:21,760 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: on the field for Super Bowl sixty, and somebody brought

921
00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,320
Speaker 2: up MORGANA The Kissing Bandit, an exotic dancer who starts

922
00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:34,279
Speaker 2: showing up at sporting events, largely baseball games, and would

923
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 2: like trot out the third base and kiss the third baseman,

924
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:41,440
Speaker 2: and you know, then go back to wherever she was

925
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 2: and everybody, which, let's face it, there were no security

926
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 2: people who were stopping her or bitter by her by her,

927
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 2: it was all considered kind of a bit. And one

928
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: of our listeners has found a Morgana event at a

929
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: basketball game. And the voice you'll here, the main voice

930
00:48:57,880 --> 00:49:00,040
Speaker 2: you're going to hear in this sound is the the

931
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,280
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame Lakers broadcaster, the late great Chick Hearn.

932
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 2: And this is this is right before a game I

933
00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:11,800
Speaker 2: think in San Antonio Davy involving the Lakers and the

934
00:49:12,040 --> 00:49:17,240
Speaker 2: San Antonio Spurs, and Larry Brown is coaching the Spurs.

935
00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 2: And you'll note that Chick doesn't seem all that enamored

936
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 2: with what Morgana is up to.

937
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 3: The referee brought a Knight back to ball game.

938
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 2: The veteran Dake o'donald will work with Harry Durham and

939
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: Derrick Snappery. What is this? That's the kipping bandit morgana Chick? Well,

940
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,800
Speaker 2: I get it, it's funny. I guess he put a

941
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: lot of lipstick on Lury Brown's cheek, okay cheek, did

942
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 2: not exactly seem enamored by the whole concept. And Michael

943
00:50:11,320 --> 00:50:13,880
Speaker 2: Thompson and by the way, you can see in the

944
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 2: video a big red lipstick mark on the right cheek

945
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 2: of Larry Brown's face. A young, very young. He did

946
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,160
Speaker 2: look young Larry Brown what he was, he probably was

947
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 2: pretty young at that point. I don't forget Minnesota fats

948
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,560
Speaker 2: versus Willie Moscone in billiards on the wide world of sports. Yeah,

949
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 2: they had billiards. They're all kinds of good stuff. Evil

950
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:41,839
Speaker 2: can eevil, target, platform diving, everything, had quite a few

951
00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:47,439
Speaker 2: outstanding work. So we had Johnny out of three thirty

952
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 2: and part of what we played off of was a

953
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 2: Finci comment from Saturday. This was when he was responding

954
00:50:58,280 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 2: to Rudy Gobert. Ruey Goobert's challenge quite frankly directed at

955
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 2: him to start benching players if they're not going to

956
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: play hard. And among the things Finchy talked about was

957
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 2: a lot of our low energy plays comes from a

958
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 2: collective kind of foul mood. So these are things that

959
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,200
Speaker 2: I try to identify. Transition defense is most obvious one

960
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: for us, a bit of a litmus test for our

961
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 2: mood and our willingness to make that play, Johnny said

962
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 2: to us, and you isolated the tweet or the comment

963
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:36,280
Speaker 2: via x While he was on with us, Johnny called

964
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: the current Wolves the moodiest team he's covered in twenty

965
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,000
Speaker 2: two years. Isn't that the quote? Yes, it's the moodiest

966
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,560
Speaker 2: team I've covered in twenty two years. So look again,

967
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 2: this seems still well by five hundred. Their pedigree is good.

968
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 2: But there's a part of me starting to think that everybody,

969
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 2: including the head coach, is being way too philosophical about this. Well,

970
00:51:57,000 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: what is this foul mood nonsense? How I mean, how

971
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: do you finesse that? How do you even take that

972
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:13,240
Speaker 2: seriously as a head coach or even players or fans

973
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 2: that well, we're just kind of a lot of times,

974
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 2: we're just really, really moody. I mean, at some point,

975
00:52:20,239 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 2: doesn't somebody have to say, get over yourselves, you got

976
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:26,239
Speaker 2: what what are we doing here? This isn't We're not

977
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 2: supposed to be turning this team into some sort of

978
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 2: a mysterious, mystical Rubik's cube, right, It's freaking basketball, Just

979
00:52:33,840 --> 00:52:36,200
Speaker 2: go out and play and guard and do the things,

980
00:52:36,239 --> 00:52:38,720
Speaker 2: and you're going to be better even when you're trying.

981
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 2: As Rudy said, some nights better than others. But this

982
00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:43,680
Speaker 2: it's because it's almost coming off as well, what can

983
00:52:43,719 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 2: you do? Or moody a lot of moody players. If

984
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,280
Speaker 2: that's really true, then maybe we don't have the right collection,

985
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 2: or maybe we do need to add somebody else who

986
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,239
Speaker 2: is going to sort of take this whole thing and

987
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:00,640
Speaker 2: mock it and say, grow up people, Well let's go.

988
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:04,200
Speaker 2: What are we doing? None of it makes any kind

989
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:07,479
Speaker 2: of sense to me. And it's almost like I said, becoming, well,

990
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:09,400
Speaker 2: throw up your hands, what are you gonna do?

991
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 3: Right?

992
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 2: You get it warm mody? Oh, it's foul mood day

993
00:53:14,560 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 2: for several Timberwolves players.

994
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: I know.

995
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 2: It's the strangest I think I've ever heard of. And

996
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:22,400
Speaker 2: not to make it about the business, but.

997
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,040
Speaker 4: We always say, like there's fans showing up tonight, yes,

998
00:53:27,239 --> 00:53:30,879
Speaker 4: to watch them play the Atlanta Hoss. Tickets are not free,

999
00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 4: they're paying the money. The ticket prices continue to go up.

1000
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:36,520
Speaker 2: We just talked about that within the last three weeks,

1001
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 2: Like you can't have all of this, like because the

1002
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,280
Speaker 2: fans are gonna notice eventually, Like that's that's my biggest

1003
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,439
Speaker 2: worry with all the ticket stuff. It's like, you can't

1004
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,359
Speaker 2: as much fun as the playoffs have been, and they

1005
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 2: do seem to have this weird ability of when it

1006
00:53:49,600 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 2: looks like it's all going to fall apart, then they

1007
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 2: play and they look like, you know, yeah, the seventy

1008
00:53:55,239 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 2: to Chicago Bulls. But like the an, the fans are

1009
00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:02,120
Speaker 2: already moody.

1010
00:54:02,360 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 4: They were booing the whole weekend basically, right on Friday

1011
00:54:05,160 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 4: and Sunday, yesterday in particular, So yesterday I thought.

1012
00:54:09,120 --> 00:54:12,680
Speaker 2: They sounded past angry, that they were almost like resigned,

1013
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,960
Speaker 2: which is even scarier. Quite frankly, the whole thing is is, again,

1014
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:21,400
Speaker 2: if that really, if there's a high quotion of moody players,

1015
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,840
Speaker 2: then long term I think you got to say, what

1016
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 2: are we doing? We're gonna have to make some changes then,

1017
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 2: even if we think they're they're talented guys. And maybe

1018
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm too easy on Edwards, I guess it's possible, I am,

1019
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: but this part of Randall has always bothered me. As

1020
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: good as he's looked at times, you know, and as

1021
00:54:45,920 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 2: helpful as he has appeared at times, It's always been

1022
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,399
Speaker 2: the thing nagging in the back of my mind. Sure

1023
00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 2: when it comes to can you win a championship with

1024
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,920
Speaker 2: him being one of your main guys, not whether you

1025
00:54:57,000 --> 00:54:59,919
Speaker 2: can go far, whether you can win a championship because

1026
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 2: he's he had that in him in New York. Yes,

1027
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,680
Speaker 2: as again, as good a player as he can be,

1028
00:55:05,719 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 2: as talented as he is, that that long term would

1029
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 2: be worrisome, And frankly, it might well be part of

1030
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 2: the reason that you're going to see Tim Conley. If

1031
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,200
Speaker 2: he believes in any of it, He's not going to

1032
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 2: acknowledge it publicly, but if he believes there's any truth

1033
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:23,799
Speaker 2: to any of it, that might be another reason why

1034
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 2: he goes back to the well on Giannis and hope

1035
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 2: that he can find a deal in which the rest

1036
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,760
Speaker 2: of the roster isn't gutted for some way where, Because

1037
00:55:32,760 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't think you got to worry about that with

1038
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,000
Speaker 2: the honest I don't think Jannis is moody. Ganis knows

1039
00:55:38,040 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 2: how to play yes and and and not let this nonsense.

1040
00:55:41,080 --> 00:55:43,800
Speaker 2: But how much do you put I mean this on

1041
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:45,880
Speaker 2: the head coach. I don't know, but I think some

1042
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 2: of it has to be a little bit of his responsibility,

1043
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:50,440
Speaker 2: unless this is his way of saying, well, this is

1044
00:55:50,520 --> 00:55:53,000
Speaker 2: the people you gave me, and I just happen to

1045
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,239
Speaker 2: have a high quotient of moody guys, how though, you

1046
00:55:57,320 --> 00:55:59,800
Speaker 2: know you old mood guy Randall.

1047
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,360
Speaker 4: Randall is by far the moodiest. Yes, And Finchy loves

1048
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,560
Speaker 4: Randall and has talked about it a lot and believes

1049
00:56:06,640 --> 00:56:09,960
Speaker 4: that he understands Randall better than anybody, and Randall has

1050
00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:12,359
Speaker 4: said that as much. And by the way, it's been

1051
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:14,520
Speaker 4: a net positive. I think to have Julius Randall on

1052
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:18,320
Speaker 4: the team when he's good, he's outstanding, and he seems

1053
00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:19,880
Speaker 4: like a good dude, and he seems like a good

1054
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 4: guy and all those things. But even my untrained not

1055
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 4: Chris finch I can tell in three possessions every night

1056
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,080
Speaker 4: if we've got the right Julius Randall. Yeah, yeah, and

1057
00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 4: we're he's he's he's been in the league too. Life's

1058
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 4: too short for that, I know. But people will tell

1059
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 4: you that know him better that well, Benchin is the

1060
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 4: worst thing he can do, because then who knows what's

1061
00:56:43,040 --> 00:56:45,000
Speaker 4: gonna happen. Which also, again, if that's what we're talking

1062
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,840
Speaker 4: about with maybe your second most important player.

1063
00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,480
Speaker 2: That's a problem. What are we doing here?

1064
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 4: That is a problems? Because when he's good, he's so good,

1065
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 4: and I here's a fan. I like pulling for him

1066
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:57,440
Speaker 4: too because there's his He's one of those guys that

1067
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,879
Speaker 4: can affect energy both ways. But for whatever they're and again,

1068
00:57:02,000 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 4: he was in the Yannis trade rumors. Of course, these

1069
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 4: guys aren't stupid. They know if Giannis is coming here,

1070
00:57:08,440 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 4: I'm not here. Nas is in here, Jayden's not here.

1071
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:14,319
Speaker 2: I'm glad you brought that up because there were people

1072
00:57:15,000 --> 00:57:19,640
Speaker 2: wanting to assign blame for a large part of the

1073
00:57:19,920 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 2: wolves struggles the last few games to the fact that, quote,

1074
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 2: they're human. There's a million trade rumors, and that's very unsettling.

1075
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:34,000
Speaker 2: And I don't discount or deny that possibility. But here's

1076
00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:39,760
Speaker 2: my problem with the theory. We've seen this team in circumstances,

1077
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:41,920
Speaker 2: had nothing to do with getting close to the trade deadline,

1078
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 2: play the same way. It's disinterested. So I'm not gonna

1079
00:57:47,000 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 2: I can't. It's hard for me to believe that that

1080
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:52,439
Speaker 2: explains it. If this was a team ordinarily that took

1081
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 2: care of business and suddenly they stopped doing that a

1082
00:57:56,520 --> 00:57:59,080
Speaker 2: week before the trade deadline. I might accept it, but

1083
00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 2: let's face it, we've had a number of weeks where

1084
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: it's looked exactly the same and there were no trade rumors.

1085
00:58:05,280 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 2: There was nothing out there about the possibility of Giannis

1086
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:10,960
Speaker 2: coming here and and on a bucket load of players

1087
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 2: going to Milwaukee or elsewhere. So Clayton from Rochester has

1088
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 2: an interesting question. Would the Kissing Bandit making appearance tonight

1089
00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:25,800
Speaker 2: at Taria Center get the team to lighten up a bit?

1090
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,840
Speaker 2: Would it be helpful if the kiss is a kissing

1091
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:32,000
Speaker 2: bandit still alive? Morgana the Kissing band I look Jiggly Boy,

1092
00:58:32,080 --> 00:58:36,560
Speaker 2: he's still alive. That's a good point. Yeah, well that

1093
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 2: there might be a bit of a different reaction to

1094
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:41,919
Speaker 2: Jiggily Boy from the players. Is Morgana, But I guess

1095
00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 2: it's the same principle. Organa the Kissing Morgan M O

1096
00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 2: R G A N N A. I don't even know

1097
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:51,040
Speaker 2: her last name. I don't even know that might even

1098
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:54,520
Speaker 2: be an Organa Roberts. That's her. She alive, seventy eight

1099
00:58:54,600 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 2: years old. She is alive. Yeah, uh yes, it looks

1100
00:58:58,080 --> 00:58:59,120
Speaker 2: like it. Fascinating.

1101
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:08,080
Speaker 4: Born in Louisville, Kentucky. She's not active, though it says active. Yeah,

1102
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 4: I think I think she's retired. Who's the woman who's

1103
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:16,600
Speaker 4: the uh, the acrobat who does the dishes? Red Panda?

1104
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:19,400
Speaker 4: Maybe is this a night is Red Panda? Maybe that

1105
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 4: would loosen things up a little bit. Red Panda coming

1106
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: back to target center. That's very different than the Kissing Bandit.

1107
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: But this might be a distraction of ideas need to

1108
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,240
Speaker 4: be on the table with this club right now.

1109
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: I think the Wolves fans are moody now as well.

1110
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 2: I don't. You're probably right. I just got a text

1111
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,520
Speaker 2: from a buddy of mine that said fans are already moody.

1112
00:59:36,520 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: He was there yesterday, so the lower level nobody was there. Yeah,

1113
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 2: that's correct. All right, let's do this. Let's make this

1114
00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,000
Speaker 2: top of the hour. Pause. We'll get to a couple

1115
00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,600
Speaker 2: of other texts and a couple of other controversies before

1116
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 2: we wrap things up. Wolves are on the fan tonight,

1117
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:54,160
Speaker 2: not just a Timberwolves channel, but also on the fan

1118
00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 2: tonight against the not great but right now dangerous because

1119
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 2: everybody's dangerous against the Wolves right now. Atlantaha. It looks

1120
01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:15,280
Speaker 2: like there's some louge activity going on now.

1121
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 3: Uh.

1122
01:00:16,040 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 2: Winter Olympics yeah, but it looks to me like they

1123
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 2: don't have Maybe it's not practical to think they could

1124
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: have a what do you call the camera that we

1125
01:00:27,800 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 2: were talking about for skiing? What do you call the

1126
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,160
Speaker 2: like the course cam, like the like the drone, the

1127
01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:39,360
Speaker 2: drone that we had in for downhill skiing in the

1128
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,720
Speaker 2: same position, because the drone in skiing is like right

1129
01:00:41,800 --> 01:00:44,439
Speaker 2: above all the way down basically, and in this case,

1130
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,320
Speaker 2: maybe because it's more of a closed environment, it doesn't

1131
01:00:47,320 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: work quite the uh, quite the same way. I'm not

1132
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:59,280
Speaker 2: sure where was I h I had something something about

1133
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 2: the Jimmy John's news conference, and now I don't remember

1134
01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:05,400
Speaker 2: what it is. Let me see if I saved it. Oh,

1135
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 2: I know what it is. On this date Feb nine?

1136
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:15,840
Speaker 2: Is this the ninth? Yes, nineteen sixty four, a record

1137
01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 2: seventy three million viewers watched the Beatles make their first

1138
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,920
Speaker 2: appearance on CBS's Yed Solvent Show. It's interesting because I

1139
01:01:21,960 --> 01:01:26,080
Speaker 2: hear that number. That's like the Super Bowls. I don't

1140
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,600
Speaker 2: know if we have the number for this one, but

1141
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:29,840
Speaker 2: it's that's usually in like the one twenties, isn't it? Yeah,

1142
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 2: twenty the official number to one tomorrow My guess is

1143
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:36,040
Speaker 2: it'll be down from a year ago because it wasn't

1144
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:41,240
Speaker 2: particularly entertaining game and wasn't all that dramatic. Well maybe

1145
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 2: at one minute you're thinking the Patriots got that first

1146
01:01:43,640 --> 01:01:45,320
Speaker 2: touchdown out of nowhere to go, Oh, maybe they can

1147
01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:47,400
Speaker 2: make something interesting, and they did get the ball back. Yeah,

1148
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 2: but then they had the pick and that pretty much

1149
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:52,920
Speaker 2: ended it. Terrible Pi Beatles. Yeah. The feb nine, nineteen

1150
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 2: sixty four on The Ed Sullivan Show, seventy two million,

1151
01:01:57,920 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 2: the first of I think I don't remember how many

1152
01:01:59,440 --> 01:02:02,480
Speaker 2: appearances they had, but they had several on the Ed

1153
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:06,640
Speaker 2: Sullivan Program. I had something from Dan Nnesota to and

1154
01:02:06,680 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 2: I don't remember what the hell it might be. I'm

1155
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:13,919
Speaker 2: not sure. We do have some texts coming in from

1156
01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 2: the audience on the the state of the Wolves. Maybe

1157
01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 2: KG could come out of retirement to you know, get

1158
01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,960
Speaker 2: the whole team going. I think are kind of past that,

1159
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,640
Speaker 2: although we do expect eventually he's going to reunite, right

1160
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 2: with that announcement has been made, But I don't think

1161
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 2: the big I don't think there's are there any big

1162
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,400
Speaker 2: visits that we know have planned for this year?

1163
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:40,640
Speaker 4: Is it more next year? My guess is playoffs. He's

1164
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:42,720
Speaker 4: going to be something back the playoffs, I would imagine,

1165
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:44,120
Speaker 4: but anything official.

1166
01:02:44,920 --> 01:02:46,880
Speaker 2: Matt writes Dan, we have a team of highly talented

1167
01:02:46,920 --> 01:02:50,120
Speaker 2: but undispunded players pretty more specific and consistent discipline. They

1168
01:02:50,200 --> 01:02:52,400
Speaker 2: take on the character their leader, and Finch he walks

1169
01:02:52,400 --> 01:02:54,720
Speaker 2: around frustrated because he knows it, can't see him do

1170
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 2: anything about it. Love the show as always, That's Matt.

1171
01:02:58,880 --> 01:03:03,880
Speaker 2: I'm not in the fire Finchy camp at all. I

1172
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: don't think that makes a hell of a lot of

1173
01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 2: sense at this point. But I do have more concern

1174
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 2: that I used to about the dynamics right now between

1175
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:21,240
Speaker 2: him and his players, because you know his point with

1176
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:26,200
Speaker 2: Rudy's comment about I'm playing the defense, not going to

1177
01:03:26,240 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: try hard enough start benching people even if they're good players.

1178
01:03:30,800 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: And of course, to come back to that is that's

1179
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 2: easier said than done, because your depth's not very good

1180
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 2: and are you're cutting you know, your nose to spite

1181
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: your face. But I don't I think Finchy's oversimplifying it too,

1182
01:03:43,480 --> 01:03:46,160
Speaker 2: that you can't substitute your way to a title. I

1183
01:03:46,200 --> 01:03:49,000
Speaker 2: think what he's trying to say is our best players

1184
01:03:49,000 --> 01:03:52,640
Speaker 2: are best players, and if we think we can sit

1185
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:57,440
Speaker 2: them and be effective doesn't make sense, But that oversimplifies it.

1186
01:03:57,600 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 2: I think what you should be able to do as

1187
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 2: a coach is for a four minute stretch where you

1188
01:04:04,200 --> 01:04:06,440
Speaker 2: ordinarily would not take a player out, say I am

1189
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,320
Speaker 2: taking him out now, even at the expense of you

1190
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 2: know what you're missing without him. I don't think it

1191
01:04:13,840 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 2: has to be wholesale forever you're benching people. But I

1192
01:04:16,760 --> 01:04:21,960
Speaker 2: do think there's a middle ground there that Finchy is

1193
01:04:22,040 --> 01:04:26,120
Speaker 2: dismissing a little bit too easily. And what he always,

1194
01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,040
Speaker 2: as we said before, has to be careful, is the

1195
01:04:28,040 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 2: same thing any coach, and we talked about this with

1196
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 2: Sam Mitchell. You gotta be careful as a coach when

1197
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:36,760
Speaker 2: you try to separate yourself too much from the team

1198
01:04:36,920 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 2: with the old talk to them, go see them, it's

1199
01:04:40,480 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: their deal. Technically that might be true, but you're the

1200
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:48,080
Speaker 2: guy who's supposed to sort of bring the whole thing

1201
01:04:48,200 --> 01:04:53,200
Speaker 2: together and give the group the best chance to develop

1202
01:04:53,280 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 2: into something. And he has again, do not take for

1203
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 2: granted what this team has done the last two years.

1204
01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,600
Speaker 2: But I think the feel is a little bit different

1205
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,240
Speaker 2: now I've said some of that. There are two things

1206
01:05:06,320 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 2: going on with this club that concerned me. One was

1207
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: they didn't have a bench. Now they have rectified that.

1208
01:05:13,040 --> 01:05:16,520
Speaker 2: I definitely believe with the Sumu. I think he'll end

1209
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 2: up being a very effective player for this club. Give

1210
01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 2: him a minute. But I think the other thing was

1211
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 2: more internal and even the notion that, well, this is

1212
01:05:24,600 --> 01:05:28,840
Speaker 2: the guy because he plays with such energy and consistency

1213
01:05:28,880 --> 01:05:31,760
Speaker 2: and purpose in terms of effort, that's going to fix

1214
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: all the rest of the moody sobs. I that's dangerous.

1215
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:39,000
Speaker 2: I don't buy that. He's not that good a player.

1216
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:43,200
Speaker 2: He's not a transcendent player. He's a good piece, is

1217
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:45,720
Speaker 2: what he is. But there's a reason he was available

1218
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:47,800
Speaker 2: for what he was available for. Okay, let's let's be

1219
01:05:47,880 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 2: honest about that. Let's be clear. So I don't think

1220
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,880
Speaker 2: you can fall into that trap is saying, well, he's

1221
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 2: gonna this one guy is going to fix everything. Can

1222
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 2: Can he add some spice and a little tonic to it?

1223
01:05:57,720 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 2: Maybe and maybe he'll feel more comfort he's here a

1224
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 2: while and figured out, you know, his place. But I

1225
01:06:04,200 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 2: think a lot of that has to come from within,

1226
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 2: and I would like to see the head coach selectively

1227
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 2: doesn't even have to be pointedly, but just selectively be

1228
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:17,919
Speaker 2: a little less afraid when he sees something that indicates, well,

1229
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 2: it looks like his moves pretty foul tonight, maybe we're

1230
01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:22,800
Speaker 2: going to give somebody else an extra four minutes. Does

1231
01:06:22,840 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: that make sense? It does.

1232
01:06:24,120 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 4: You mentioned the ask them comment, which was from earlier

1233
01:06:27,560 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 4: in the week. That's what's interesting about the whole week.

1234
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 4: I think, Well, they went and asked Rudy, and Rudy

1235
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:34,680
Speaker 4: said what he thought. Rudy answered exactly right. And by

1236
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:38,400
Speaker 4: the way, I'm on team Rudy, I too, even.

1237
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 2: Though the game he was bad defensively too, and I

1238
01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:43,120
Speaker 2: get it, But yes, that was an effort. It's never

1239
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 2: effort with Rudy defensively, it's just not no. And I

1240
01:06:46,200 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 2: get it.

1241
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 4: He's absolutely the wrong messenger because he's probably the most

1242
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 4: disrespected player in the league, and I'm sure that filters

1243
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: into his team every once in a while, even though

1244
01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:57,520
Speaker 4: they I think have done a good job of trying

1245
01:06:57,520 --> 01:06:59,200
Speaker 4: to get the best out of them in different ways,

1246
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,200
Speaker 4: whether they give him the ball in the lob, whether

1247
01:07:01,240 --> 01:07:03,400
Speaker 4: they you know, feed him, they pump him up the

1248
01:07:03,480 --> 01:07:06,920
Speaker 4: whole deal like it was two nights before, when or

1249
01:07:07,040 --> 01:07:08,800
Speaker 4: two or three nights before when Finch, she goes, well,

1250
01:07:08,840 --> 01:07:12,240
Speaker 4: ask them like, it's not my problem, and the Jackals did,

1251
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 4: and he answered, and he identified a major problem with

1252
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 4: the team.

1253
01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,360
Speaker 2: That's correct, it's undeniable. It's just it's he made. I

1254
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 2: think Vincy didn't like the coach part. He felt like,

1255
01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 2: I'm guessing, but I think he picked the wrong thing.

1256
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,160
Speaker 2: I think he would have been better off saying, well,

1257
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:31,800
Speaker 2: you heard what one of our leaders said. And he

1258
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 2: probably admits he didn't have the greatest defensive game either,

1259
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:38,040
Speaker 2: but he's hit on something that I've tried to harp

1260
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:41,360
Speaker 2: on and maybe we're going to hear it from more players.

1261
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:44,600
Speaker 2: I thought he had an opportunity to use that to

1262
01:07:44,720 --> 01:07:46,360
Speaker 2: the good of the team and to the good of

1263
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: himself and just ignore the part about getting defensive on

1264
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,880
Speaker 2: somebody trying to tell him when to take players out right.

1265
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 2: I don't think he needed really necessarily necessarily to mess

1266
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 2: with that part. The other part is what should have

1267
01:07:58,080 --> 01:07:59,800
Speaker 2: encouraged him, that he should have grabbed onto and.

1268
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 4: And when he says nobody has subbed their way to greatness, well,

1269
01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 4: a lot of these teams that are on their way

1270
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,600
Speaker 4: to greatness, they didn't have the need to from time

1271
01:08:09,680 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 4: to time. Correct, I'd have to go through the last,

1272
01:08:12,080 --> 01:08:15,280
Speaker 4: you know, twenty years of title teams, right, But I'm

1273
01:08:15,320 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 4: guessing Steve Kerran never really had to sub out for greatness, Right,

1274
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,920
Speaker 4: I'm guessing that his guys kind of understood what the

1275
01:08:23,000 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 4: championship mentality was, especial certainly when they went seventy three

1276
01:08:27,080 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 4: and nine, they understood, yes, to bring it every single night.

1277
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 4: Good on the list, san Antonio Spurs Davy, who are

1278
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,919
Speaker 4: some of the other title teams from the last two decades,

1279
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:40,240
Speaker 4: Like they didn't have these wild ebbs and flows throughout

1280
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Speaker 4: the season. Of course, you're gonna have bad nights. Nobody

1281
01:08:42,320 --> 01:08:43,600
Speaker 4: thinks you're gonna be perfect every night.

1282
01:08:43,640 --> 01:08:46,160
Speaker 2: As much as we'd like to romanticize about the eighties

1283
01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,320
Speaker 2: and nineties, when it felt like that that there there

1284
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,640
Speaker 2: was no load management, there was no there were no

1285
01:08:51,160 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 2: schedule losses. It was three games and four nights.

1286
01:08:53,800 --> 01:08:56,240
Speaker 4: I'm sure it was more complicated than that, But now

1287
01:08:56,280 --> 01:09:00,160
Speaker 4: it's just, Yeah, it's those teams didn't have to do

1288
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,640
Speaker 4: it because their guys just showed up.

1289
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:04,640
Speaker 2: They showed up most of the time. Yeah, it's just

1290
01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 2: true that they're just wired that way, and again, if

1291
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 2: it's beyond any head coaches reached, then you're back into

1292
01:09:13,320 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 2: well maybe then you are going to have to think,

1293
01:09:15,600 --> 01:09:17,560
Speaker 2: as painful as it is given the position of the

1294
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:22,040
Speaker 2: team of making some changes to the roster. I mean,

1295
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:26,200
Speaker 2: I think Tim Conley is a realist. The best example

1296
01:09:26,240 --> 01:09:28,160
Speaker 2: I can give is if you listen to what Conley

1297
01:09:28,240 --> 01:09:31,800
Speaker 2: said at the press conference where he's talking about the

1298
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:34,840
Speaker 2: moves that the team made and what's the lesson from

1299
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:38,840
Speaker 2: the Dillingham, you know, failure, And part of what he

1300
01:09:39,040 --> 01:09:47,960
Speaker 2: said is, well, we have sometimes players who just need

1301
01:09:48,080 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 2: to have a chance to play and to play through

1302
01:09:50,200 --> 01:09:57,000
Speaker 2: their mistakes. Yeah, and I think my guess is Conley

1303
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:01,280
Speaker 2: thinks there were maybe there were times when especially one

1304
01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: of one of the other players is being moody, that

1305
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: Dillingham should have had more of an opportunity to do that.

1306
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:09,839
Speaker 2: But at some point, if you continue to be committed

1307
01:10:09,920 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 2: to your coach, you look in the mirror and you go, well,

1308
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,560
Speaker 2: I may have done it a little bit differently, but

1309
01:10:15,680 --> 01:10:18,640
Speaker 2: this is what we're stuck with. So this is the

1310
01:10:18,680 --> 01:10:20,679
Speaker 2: way this coach is going to deal with this situation.

1311
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,560
Speaker 2: So therefore, let's cut our loss now. And in the

1312
01:10:25,000 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 2: especially when I can get a good rotation player in

1313
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:29,880
Speaker 2: return who can help us immediately. Who I know he's

1314
01:10:29,880 --> 01:10:32,680
Speaker 2: gonna plug in there. But I think my guess is

1315
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: he felt like, well, there's a guy that I still

1316
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:38,720
Speaker 2: convince I'm convinced could be a good player, but we're

1317
01:10:38,760 --> 01:10:40,680
Speaker 2: not going to know it here simply because he's just

1318
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,200
Speaker 2: unfortunately not going to get the playing time. All Right,

1319
01:10:44,200 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 2: we got one more break to get to. We'll wrap

1320
01:10:46,320 --> 01:10:48,720
Speaker 2: things up, remind you of what you missed earlier in

1321
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:52,040
Speaker 2: the show and what we have scheduled for tomorrow. And

1322
01:10:52,200 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 2: as I said later tonight, here in the Fat Show

1323
01:10:57,360 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: rap is presented by American Pressure Commercial Great Pressure Watchers

1324
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:04,639
Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy five. It's the Bumper to Bumpers Show.

1325
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:04,960
Speaker 3: RAP.

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01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,200
Speaker 2: Charlie Walton points out that since January sixteenth, the Wolves

1327
01:11:09,320 --> 01:11:12,559
Speaker 2: record is five and eight. We have the twenty first

1328
01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:17,400
Speaker 2: ranked offensive rating, we have the fifteenth ranked defensive rating,

1329
01:11:18,200 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 2: and we have five losses to teams below five hundred.

1330
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:28,000
Speaker 2: That obviously is not workable. It is fixable. It's not

1331
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,840
Speaker 2: over by any stretch of the imagination. There's plenty to

1332
01:11:30,880 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 2: be played. But I do feel a sense that the

1333
01:11:34,840 --> 01:11:37,200
Speaker 2: next two games before the All Star break. He's the

1334
01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 2: last two have an outsized feel to me that have

1335
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:47,120
Speaker 2: become more important because of because the Wolves have made

1336
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:54,240
Speaker 2: them seem more important with their disinterest. Quite frankly, it's

1337
01:11:54,360 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 2: not often on the Fans Sports Duel broadcast that you

1338
01:12:02,000 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 2: hear words like I don't know, it looks like we're

1339
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 2: not competing anymore in this game. And that is absolutely

1340
01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:12,800
Speaker 2: what it tended to look like.

1341
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 5: Now.

1342
01:12:13,040 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 2: I get the bit you hit a few shots because

1343
01:12:14,920 --> 01:12:16,920
Speaker 2: they missed a bunch of shots, and you feel better

1344
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:21,400
Speaker 2: and everything's fine, But I don't it was more right now.

1345
01:12:21,479 --> 01:12:23,559
Speaker 2: There's more than that that's going on. So I'm as

1346
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:28,400
Speaker 2: curious as anybody. Are you going tonight? No, as curious

1347
01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:31,080
Speaker 2: as anybody to see how they react tonight. I mean,

1348
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:34,000
Speaker 2: in theory, you think you're going to see the best

1349
01:12:34,040 --> 01:12:37,120
Speaker 2: of them because they know that it doesn't look good

1350
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:39,080
Speaker 2: right now and they have to remind themselves of what

1351
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 2: they're supposed to be. But is it that simple. I

1352
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:47,120
Speaker 2: don't know. I'm not sure it. The pieces don't seem

1353
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:50,600
Speaker 2: to be fitting together all that well right now. The

1354
01:12:50,720 --> 01:12:52,840
Speaker 2: drone shots at the Olympics are amazing, but they are

1355
01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,559
Speaker 2: super audible in some events. The point where it takes

1356
01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:58,479
Speaker 2: something away ski jumping is the place I noticed it

1357
01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,280
Speaker 2: the most. That was Nate. Now, I'll admit I haven't

1358
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,840
Speaker 2: had the sound turned up much, so I'm unaware of

1359
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:08,280
Speaker 2: that part of it. And somebody else mentioned there can't

1360
01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,640
Speaker 2: be a drone for any loose or sliding sports of

1361
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:13,880
Speaker 2: the Olympics due to safety and the high speeds. According

1362
01:13:13,880 --> 01:13:17,520
Speaker 2: to the International Olympic Committee. That makes sense, But it's

1363
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 2: unfortunate because that's another event where you could see, you

1364
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:23,560
Speaker 2: get a real better appreciation for the speed of it

1365
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,600
Speaker 2: and the harrowing nature of it if you had that

1366
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:33,880
Speaker 2: right above. But it's practically speaking unlikely to work. The

1367
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,479
Speaker 2: Wolves will be on the fan tonight, by the way,

1368
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,240
Speaker 2: We've got fan and the man as soon as we

1369
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 2: wrap up, and then it's Wolves Hawks, nikhil as I said,

1370
01:13:42,240 --> 01:13:48,360
Speaker 2: making his emotional return to town. And I guess part

1371
01:13:48,400 --> 01:13:49,800
Speaker 2: of what we have to find out we didn't really

1372
01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:51,720
Speaker 2: talk about this much with Johnny who joined us at

1373
01:13:51,720 --> 01:13:54,360
Speaker 2: three point thirty, is what the rotation is going to

1374
01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:59,439
Speaker 2: look like now, So is I owe the first guy

1375
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 2: off the bench? Which is it?

1376
01:14:00,439 --> 01:14:00,719
Speaker 4: Nas?

1377
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 2: You know, Mike Conley isn't here yet. Well, it's up

1378
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,519
Speaker 2: with Bones now, and Bones has had some moments. Bones

1379
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 2: is probably the guy that loses in this trend potentially, yes,

1380
01:14:10,720 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 2: although again you know, I mean maybe you go back

1381
01:14:13,080 --> 01:14:16,920
Speaker 2: and forth between the two. I'm not sure, but in theory,

1382
01:14:17,240 --> 01:14:20,720
Speaker 2: eventually Bones might might lose just a little bit. And

1383
01:14:21,160 --> 01:14:24,240
Speaker 2: you know, Johnny raised an interesting point between three point

1384
01:14:24,240 --> 01:14:26,840
Speaker 2: thirty and four o'clock. He reminded us that you can

1385
01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:30,640
Speaker 2: certainly look at you can evaluate Mike Conley's on the

1386
01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:34,800
Speaker 2: court play and say it is slid, and we can't

1387
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 2: ignore that, even if we all have such great appreciation

1388
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:41,719
Speaker 2: for what he's meant to this franchise. But he thinks

1389
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,240
Speaker 2: that there is still part of the reason you want

1390
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:49,880
Speaker 2: him back is regarding all that moodiness. He thinks Conley

1391
01:14:50,000 --> 01:14:53,360
Speaker 2: has a place that might alleviate some of that or

1392
01:14:53,479 --> 01:14:58,000
Speaker 2: be a voice beyond the head coach and the coaching

1393
01:14:58,080 --> 01:15:00,759
Speaker 2: staff that that might be help full in that regard.

1394
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 2: So that's an interesting thing to remember as we wait

1395
01:15:03,320 --> 01:15:05,200
Speaker 2: for Conley, who still might be a week or two off,

1396
01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 2: because the longer we keep him out, the more flexibility

1397
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:13,439
Speaker 2: we have to pick up. Potentially another legitimate veteran player

1398
01:15:14,640 --> 01:15:17,040
Speaker 2: out of a buyout, and we have the flexibility on

1399
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:19,640
Speaker 2: the buyout in part because of that delay and the

1400
01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 2: way they went about the deals that they did. Who's

1401
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:28,680
Speaker 2: the guard from Sacramento that Johnny mentioned? De DeRozan is

1402
01:15:28,720 --> 01:15:31,400
Speaker 2: the most interesting forty years old but continues to play

1403
01:15:31,439 --> 01:15:35,960
Speaker 2: it still can He knows how to score. So I'm

1404
01:15:35,960 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: sure they are a team interested in he is moody?

1405
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: What are his vibes like? Does he have good vibes? Vibes? Man,

1406
01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 2: I had no idea, So who's so? Who's not moody

1407
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,519
Speaker 2: on our team? Joe ingles but he barely plays.

1408
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:51,240
Speaker 4: He never plays except when we need to in We

1409
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:53,559
Speaker 4: don't think the Sumu's moody, not all accounts.

1410
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:58,240
Speaker 2: He just goes after it. Man, I'm trying to think right,

1411
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:03,719
Speaker 2: nobody Okay, not moody. Nods his moody can get at moody.

1412
01:16:03,800 --> 01:16:09,160
Speaker 4: But three years ago we know about Julius Rudy's I

1413
01:16:09,200 --> 01:16:11,240
Speaker 4: don't think Rudy's moody. He's not moody, but he's got

1414
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:13,719
Speaker 4: a short fuse sometimes and that's why he's been suspended

1415
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:14,440
Speaker 4: for flagrants.

1416
01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: Dante. Dante's got a little edge to him. Uh, the loud,

1417
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:24,040
Speaker 2: high pitched shriek of the drones is ridiculous. I didn't

1418
01:16:24,040 --> 01:16:25,760
Speaker 2: realize it was that bad. I guess that's a trade

1419
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,000
Speaker 2: off the t'ginning. What did Johnny just tweet? Did he

1420
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:34,880
Speaker 2: just tweet something controversial? I don't know. Uh, let's see

1421
01:16:34,960 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 2: what it is. Uh. Oh, he's why does he do this?

1422
01:16:41,320 --> 01:16:46,479
Speaker 2: Why does he do this? So he's he's retweeting a

1423
01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:48,400
Speaker 2: tweet from Aaron Rupert. Trump in the middle of his

1424
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:51,479
Speaker 2: latest unhinged true Social Street claims that if Canada makes

1425
01:16:51,520 --> 01:16:53,600
Speaker 2: a trade with China, the first thing China will do

1426
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:56,400
Speaker 2: is terminate all ice hockey being played in Canada and

1427
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:00,240
Speaker 2: permanently eliminate the Stanley Cup, to which Johnny writes, is

1428
01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:05,439
Speaker 2: that a promise? Kidding hockey fans, I'm just kidding, just kids.

1429
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,840
Speaker 2: He must be bored. How could he be bored with

1430
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:13,200
Speaker 2: his job right now? Yeah? Maybe he's getting you think

1431
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,160
Speaker 2: that's what it is. He's lashing out. Watch your own

1432
01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,400
Speaker 2: bobber is what Fawness would probably tell him. Right that

1433
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 2: would be the comeback because somebody said fulp Faulness is

1434
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:26,559
Speaker 2: not going to like with Johnny. Athletic just tweeted, I'm

1435
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 2: currently watching the singles Women's Loge and they do have

1436
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,000
Speaker 2: the drones flying on the track. I guess I that

1437
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,840
Speaker 2: I don't appreciate the angles the way I did with

1438
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,519
Speaker 2: the downhill skiing, So maybe it's all in how I'm

1439
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:45,160
Speaker 2: looking at it. I'm not exactly sure. I'm on my

1440
01:17:45,240 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 2: way to Target Center, my seats overlook the Wolves bench

1441
01:17:48,160 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 2: will report back tomorrow. A right, check out the mood, Intel,

1442
01:17:52,280 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: check out the mood.

1443
01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:53,760
Speaker 3: I like that.

1444
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:57,840
Speaker 2: That's very, very good, no question about that. Also want

1445
01:17:57,880 --> 01:17:59,599
Speaker 2: to thank Ben Leeber who gave us a little bonus

1446
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 2: time to Super Bowl sixty and a lot of interesting

1447
01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:04,680
Speaker 2: thoughts from him about the future of the wool of

1448
01:18:04,760 --> 01:18:08,840
Speaker 2: the Vikings at the quarterback position. He ranked his top

1449
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:14,000
Speaker 2: three and he liked that he amended it. Originally he

1450
01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 2: said Cousins won, who's the former Raiders guy and Saints

1451
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:20,640
Speaker 2: guy that he met Derek Carr. Derek Carr at two,

1452
01:18:20,720 --> 01:18:22,680
Speaker 2: but then he moved Car up to one. If Car

1453
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:26,160
Speaker 2: is actually available and he has Cousins two. And then

1454
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,559
Speaker 2: I think he had the guy who's been in Washington

1455
01:18:28,600 --> 01:18:31,280
Speaker 2: most recently of the backup what's his name? I remember

1456
01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:34,639
Speaker 2: his name? I'm not crazy about Cousins and the other guy.

1457
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:37,560
Speaker 2: I just worre he might be done. I used to

1458
01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,000
Speaker 2: like Derek Carr a lot. For sure he was I

1459
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,960
Speaker 2: don't think he never really seemed to sustain anything there.

1460
01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:44,960
Speaker 2: And as Ben said, I don't know how much he's

1461
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,080
Speaker 2: done in this very sophisticated offense. So we'll see tomorrow.

1462
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,639
Speaker 2: What do we got. We got Luigi and who knows

1463
01:18:50,800 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: what else? Fan and a Man and Wolves, Atlanta Hawks.

1464
01:18:54,680 --> 01:18:57,120
Speaker 2: We'll see what the moods are or the mood is

1465
01:18:57,640 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 2: of your favorite basketball players. All that coming up tonight.

1466
01:19:00,760 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow. Three.

1467
01:19:02,160 --> 01:19:02,680
Speaker 3: What do you mean