1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,360 Speaker 1: Well, Tom Brady have to wait to get into the 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: Hall of Fame because of the flake Gate and Spygate. 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,160 Speaker 2: Wow, I think that's an interesting question. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: No, No, wait, well, chance Bill pullingers that kind of power, 5 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 3: especially once he won a championship. 6 00:00:15,920 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I'm going to play devil's advocate, and I am 7 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 2: not advocating that Brady not be a first ballot Hall 8 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:24,600 Speaker 2: of Famer, because I think his career speaks to the 9 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 2: fact that he should be. But if you keep Belichick 10 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 2: out on the first opportunity, ostensibly because of the flight 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:39,159 Speaker 2: Gate and Spygate, you couldn't brain. You couldn't blame Brady 12 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 2: necessarily for Spygate if you are of the mind to 13 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,199 Speaker 2: believe it happened. But if you are of that mind, 14 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 2: you certainly could blame him for the flight Gate for sure. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 2: So I guess my question would be, why wouldn't you 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: think about if we want to send a message here, 17 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: like you're sending the message to Bill Belichick, why wouldn't 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 2: you send the same or similar message to Tom Brady. 19 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not equitable. I'm just saying I 20 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:07,559 Speaker 3: don't think people will. I think Brady's likable and Belichick isn't. 21 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 3: And I think that's the difference at the end of 22 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,039 Speaker 3: the day, kind of like me and you, Yeah I'm 23 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 3: likable or not. 24 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: I mean, so it's you know, no no. 25 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 3: Da. 26 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,759 Speaker 2: What you said is what I agree with you. I mean, 27 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 2: I think you know, Belichick has been surly. I find 28 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: it somewhat humorous. Yeah, I mean, but I think for 29 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: members of the press that had to cover him on 30 00:01:28,800 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 2: a regular basis, even though those aren't all voters, I 31 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,880 Speaker 2: think the act probably wore a bit thin. 32 00:01:35,280 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 3: The other part of this is guys who get involved 33 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 3: in media tend to get pushed up on the Hall 34 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,560 Speaker 3: of Fame stuff. You know, Jerome Bennis came right through 35 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: just because he got Once you get involved in media, 36 00:01:44,920 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 3: you start making friends with those voters in your top 37 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 3: of mind awareness on him. Tom Brady being out there 38 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 3: front and center on those broadcasts. 39 00:01:50,640 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 4: I don't think that hurts him at all. 40 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: Ye Luke Evans, who we all like with the dever 41 00:01:55,280 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: post tweeted out just a little bit ago. PERST sources, 42 00:01:57,080 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: the Broncos will undertake a full search for a new 43 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: office as a coordinator. The Joe Lombardi move came independent 44 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: of head coaching buzz around Davis Webb, who had a 45 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,240 Speaker 1: second interview with the Raiders. Well, I mean, I think 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: and part of that is the Rooney rule, which is acknowledging. 47 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,680 Speaker 1: We have to acknowledge that. And I think it's important, right. 48 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 1: I think you'd want to pick the brains of other 49 00:02:18,760 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: coaches when you have the opportunity to. You know, I mean, 50 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:23,720 Speaker 1: Sean calls the plays as we all know and is 51 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: the mastermind behind all of it. But at the same time, hey, 52 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: what did you guys see when we were struggling to 53 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 1: do this and those kinds of things, And maybe there's 54 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: an opportunity to learn more and to find future people 55 00:02:35,960 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: that you could work with the I mean again, you 56 00:02:39,160 --> 00:02:41,800 Speaker 1: brought in Davis Webb in part he wasn't part of 57 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 1: the Sean Payton coaching tree, like he came independent of 58 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: all that. But he came in here. He's impressed. He's 59 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,600 Speaker 1: obviously getting head coaching jobs. I always look at these 60 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: opportunities for any organization to pick the brains of multiple 61 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: minds around the NFL to be a good thing. 62 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 2: Happens all the time. Yep, that's just part of the process. 63 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 2: You know, you'll bring guys in that you absolutely no, 64 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,400 Speaker 2: or you're ninety eight percent certain you're not going to hire, 65 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: but you want to pick their brain. You want to 66 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: hear some of the ideas. Now, one time out of 67 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 2: one hundred, the two percent wins out. It's like this 68 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 2: guy comes in. It's like, wait a minute, we didn't 69 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 2: think it would be like this, but we have to 70 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 2: seriously consider hiring this Guy's. 71 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,840 Speaker 3: How Vance got here in the first place, you know, 72 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 3: it was like a Rooney Roll type deal, and then 73 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 3: they had the you know, they had him into that. 74 00:03:27,760 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: Oh no, I. 75 00:03:28,919 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 2: Would push back a little bit on that. I think 76 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: I think, you know, Gary held Dvance in such high regard. 77 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: I'm tik about his initial interview before oh, with the Bengals. 78 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you right, I got you got that. 79 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the you're right, yeah afterwards, Yeah. 80 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: When he was at the d DB's coach with the Bengals. 81 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: With the Bengals, Yeah, that was his first kind of 82 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 1: introduction here, and then they kind of kept tabs on 83 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: him when he went to Miami. 84 00:03:56,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: So yeah. 85 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: We talked about the wide receiver comment from Sean Payton 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: earlier and again in context of now firing Joe Lombardi. 87 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:06,680 Speaker 1: Here was what he had to say about improving the 88 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: run games next year. 89 00:04:08,200 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 5: I stepped into Zach's office yesterday. 90 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 2: I said, look, it's. 91 00:04:12,120 --> 00:04:15,640 Speaker 5: Probably there's probably a series of answers to that what 92 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 5: we're doing. I feel like we're far enough along with 93 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 5: the RPOs and some of that, but when we want 94 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 5: to run it under center and control a game, We've 95 00:04:26,040 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 5: been able to do it a few times, but not 96 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 5: as much as I'd like, I think, and so that'll 97 00:04:33,360 --> 00:04:38,120 Speaker 5: be an important study with urgency and then also with 98 00:04:38,120 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 5: with the runners who we asked you. I mean, losing 99 00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: JK obviously is a tough loss. He brought a lot 100 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,479 Speaker 5: to the locker room, more more than you would know. 101 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 5: But that's that'll be one of the points of emphasis 102 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,920 Speaker 5: that we research and look into heavily. I want to 103 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 5: play from the gun, but I also will always want 104 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 5: to play with a two back or multiple time end mindset, 105 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 5: you know, have that flexibility. 106 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 2: And it's a good question. 107 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 5: I think it's one of one of the key things 108 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 5: we have to do this offseason. 109 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: There's a lot to take away from that. So it's 110 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:19,080 Speaker 1: not even just about the guys that he has in 111 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: the room. It's also about the way they did it. 112 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: I mean you could see you pointing multiple times too. 113 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: I want to be able to run the ball when 114 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 1: we want to do and we only could do that 115 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: a few times this year. 116 00:05:29,360 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think he's I think with those comments, he's 117 00:05:32,480 --> 00:05:37,800 Speaker 2: being one hundred percent honest and about as transparent as 118 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,640 Speaker 2: a head coach in the NFL on a season ending 119 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:46,359 Speaker 2: press conference can be. I would say this if you 120 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:50,480 Speaker 2: look at now different different personnel, for sure, but if 121 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,799 Speaker 2: you look at, like off the top of your head, 122 00:05:55,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 2: when I think of like running games, Detroit really good 123 00:06:03,640 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: combination of two backs, speedback, power back, but very creative 124 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 2: in how they attacked the running game. Ben Johnson, who 125 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 2: was the coordinator Detroit, goes to Chicago, same sort of thing. 126 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 2: If you go back and look at Chicago film, which 127 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 2: I have a lot this year, Man, there's some real 128 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 2: there's some good stuff in the running game. Now. They 129 00:06:30,760 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: went out also and they had three free agents they 130 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: acquired upfront on the offensive line. That counts because you're 131 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: putting an emphasis on, Hey, we're going to be better 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 2: in the run game and the and the pass protection game. 133 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,040 Speaker 2: And here's why I think that, Because we just went 134 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 2: out and spent money for three starters on the offensive line. 135 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: You look at Atlanta with Zach Robinson as the coordinator 136 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 2: down there, and now he's the coordinator at Tampa. Atlanta 137 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 2: would be Robinson, who's one of the top in my book, 138 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 2: two or three running backs in the game. But they 139 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: had and he had a good backup too, power backup. 140 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,800 Speaker 2: But they had a creative way of attacking. You look 141 00:07:10,840 --> 00:07:16,040 Speaker 2: at the Rams, I mean creative way of running in 142 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: a lot of thirteen personnel, one back, three tight ends, 143 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,800 Speaker 2: one receiver. So yeah, I like what Sean said. I 144 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 2: think it'd be interesting for him to come out and 145 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 2: publicly say I want to spend some time under center. 146 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,000 Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think that it will help 147 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:41,320 Speaker 2: the running game, it will help his play action game. 148 00:07:42,400 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 2: Now he got a quarterback that I don't know, if 149 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:52,200 Speaker 2: he had his druthers, might want to be in the 150 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 2: shotgun a bit more than under center. So you got 151 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: to you got to manage, You got to mesh. You 152 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 2: have to marry who you have in the locker room, 153 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,040 Speaker 2: what talent you have on offense, what you want to 154 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 2: do schematically, what's best for the guys you have in 155 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 2: the locker room. Schematically and then put it all together. 156 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: It's good, good enough? Yeah, good enough? Absolutely? 157 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,119 Speaker 1: Are you only saying that to him? Because he looks 158 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: like he's like, you know, spiraling. 159 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 3: Spiral leg. 160 00:08:25,120 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 4: I'm just glad they let you to the building, do 161 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 4: you Yeah? You like the homeless look? 162 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? 163 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 3: Okay, I set the bar it don't expect anything out 164 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: of me, so that I almost barely clear it. I 165 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 3: was just gonna say, why would you as I go 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 3: to you right before the break, like, hey, what do 167 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 3: you have to say about this? 168 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 4: I could do for a beard, Brian. 169 00:08:46,440 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 2: We aren't all blessed with uh, you. 170 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,160 Speaker 4: Know, I've been cultivating this since high school. 171 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:57,479 Speaker 3: It's different. Same okay, fair. 172 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,840 Speaker 1: Five six six night Zeros are anyway, common spirit all 173 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 1: text line so obviously been reacting a ton to the 174 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 1: Joe Lombardi news earlier today. There's some really good stuff 175 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:10,640 Speaker 1: from coach Peyton and George Payton earlier today. 176 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 4: Let's get to a couple of these here we want 177 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 4: to hear more. We have Rod Smith by the way 178 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 4: joining us after five o'clock. 179 00:09:15,960 --> 00:09:17,680 Speaker 1: I'm sure he's gonna have a few things to say 180 00:09:17,960 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: about the not only the game, but the Broncos heading 181 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:21,479 Speaker 1: into the offseason. 182 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 4: Let's let's do how about Oh, this was pretty funny. 183 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 1: So Sean talking about not having to deal with the 184 00:09:32,320 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: dead cap hit that they were incurring from Russell Wilson's contract. 185 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 5: I think, like in any case, if I said I'm 186 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 5: going to give you a fifty thousand to decorate your 187 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,880 Speaker 5: home or two hundred thousand, the home is gonna look nicer. 188 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 5: I think if you're a decent shopper, if you have 189 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 5: more money. I think the same takes place with our sport, 190 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:55,040 Speaker 5: and proud of the way everyone else handled it and 191 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 5: looked at developing young players and didn't use it as 192 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 5: a built in excuse. You know, we can find those 193 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 5: all the time. So but I think it's I think 194 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 5: it's significant, and it's still important we evaluate wisely, we 195 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 5: draft wisely, we make these decisions regarding free agency with 196 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 5: well thought out plans, and we go from there. 197 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: It's a great point he brings up, because if you 198 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: leaned on that excuse, the Broncos wouldn't have had the 199 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of success they had the last couple of years. 200 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:33,839 Speaker 4: Like if you just said, well, oh gosh, you know. 201 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 1: What, was us the biggest dead cap hit in the 202 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: history of the NFL, and we're incurring it. You know, 203 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: these next two years, world, just do the best we can. 204 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: You got to have a different mindset. And I'm glad 205 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,440 Speaker 1: he pointed that out. 206 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the successful teams, successful coaches in the league. 207 00:10:51,200 --> 00:10:56,679 Speaker 2: The league is about no excuses, even sometimes when there 208 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: are valid excuses. So the fact when when Sean came 209 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 2: and he and he finally made the decision to let 210 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: Russell go and have a huge dead cap hit, that 211 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,760 Speaker 2: he set sort of the bar at Listen, We're not 212 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,240 Speaker 2: we're not going to use this as an excuse why 213 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 2: we can't field a competitive team. Nobody cares in the NFL, 214 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 2: And when it comes down to it, most fans, even 215 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:30,320 Speaker 2: ardent Broncos fans, I mean, they're aware that Russell Wilson 216 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 2: got cut, and they're aware that it was a dead 217 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: cap hit salary cap, but other than that, they don't care. 218 00:11:39,200 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 2: We're coming Sunday to watch the Broncos play, and we 219 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 2: want to we want to see the Broncos win games. 220 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 2: So in the NFL, I've always said, and I got 221 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 2: I got taught this by my first head coach, Forrest 222 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,880 Speaker 2: Greg and I was I told this story today and 223 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: I'll be very brief, dropped a ball my rookie year 224 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 2: in a preseason game, lost it on a nine route 225 00:12:05,360 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 2: of go route, lost it in the sun ball pot 226 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 2: off my hands. Dropped the ball next day in film 227 00:12:11,920 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 2: whenever We're sitting up in the room and I'm in 228 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:16,959 Speaker 2: the top row and Coach greg is going through the film. 229 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 2: The entire team watching the film get to the play 230 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 2: where I dropped the ball. Runs it back and forth, 231 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 2: runs it back and forth, runs it back and forth, 232 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,120 Speaker 2: runs it. I'm like, and I took great pride in 233 00:12:26,160 --> 00:12:27,520 Speaker 2: catching the ball. So I'm in the back row and 234 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,600 Speaker 2: not saying He said, who is this? I said, Dave Logan. 235 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: He goes Dave Logan. So now you repeat my name, 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 2: run it back and forth, still repeating my name, repeating 237 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: my name. He said, you won't be in the league 238 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:42,240 Speaker 2: long you don't make that catch. So my dumb ass, 239 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: at that point, being the competitive like dummy, my rookie year, 240 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 2: I blurred out, I lost the ball in the son Coach, 241 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: because I did so immediately, I knew that was not 242 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: a smart thing to say. Projector lights go off, I 243 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 2: hear Coach Greg a two hundred and eighty pounds, walking 244 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 2: over to the switch, flips the on, walks back down, 245 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: addresses the entire team. I'm on the top row. I 246 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 2: didn't hear what you said. What'd you say? Now I 247 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 2: have to I have to think real quick, like oh boy, well, 248 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 2: I'm I'm I've already stepped in the dog poop. I'm 249 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: in it. I got both feet in it. I said 250 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 2: I lost the ball in the sun. So now he 251 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 2: repeats that phrase while walking back and forth, pacing on 252 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 2: the stage. You lost the ball in the sun. You 253 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 2: lost the ball in the sun. You lost the ball 254 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: in the sun. Huh. Then he stops and looks back up, 255 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 2: and he says, son, this is the National Football League, 256 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: and you either do or you don't. So let me 257 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 2: ask you the question again. Did you catch the ball? No, sir, No, sir, 258 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 2: repeats it, No, sir, you didn't, and you won't be 259 00:13:48,120 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: in the league long if you don't. Walks back to 260 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 2: the lights, turns them off, and I'm like sweating. See 261 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 2: you next to Paul Warfield. I'm like, oh god, I'm 262 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 2: gonna get cut. But it taught me a lesson, Like, bro, 263 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: they don't care. You know what. You get paid to 264 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: catch the ball. I don't care if it's in the sun, 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 2: if it falls out of God's lap, catch the ball. 266 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,079 Speaker 2: And I never made that mistake in a film session 267 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 2: for the rest of my career. 268 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 1: Anybody that's ever been sort of called out in a 269 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:22,640 Speaker 1: public setting, like say you went to class one day 270 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: and you didn't you know, doggate home or whatever your 271 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: excuse was, and the teachers up there like, I'm sorry, 272 00:14:28,160 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: what was that? 273 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: What did you say? 274 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 1: And that was that, like you're not any professional, like 275 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,359 Speaker 1: you're in the room with ninety other players. 276 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,000 Speaker 2: Or thought for sure that I was like, okay, I'm 277 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 2: not making this team my rookie year. 278 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,040 Speaker 1: Diane Rassini is saying that the Las Vegas Raiders are 279 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: still planning on another interview with a candidate this week, 280 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: have yet to make a decision a head coach. You 281 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: tweeted it out four minutes ago, so that would be 282 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: the Clint Kobe I interview. 283 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 2: I believe we'll see. 284 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,320 Speaker 4: But they have to wait on that one, don't they. Yes, 285 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,320 Speaker 4: they do, Yeah, you can do well, they've already done. 286 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 2: Their virtual Yeah you can't. He's yeah, it's hands off 287 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 2: him till after the super Bowl. 288 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 4: So then there'll be another candidate in there, you know, but. 289 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 3: If you're the you know at this point, because there's 290 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 3: three other jobs remaining, so you're the Browns, the Raiders. 291 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 4: What's the other one? Arizona? Okay? 292 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: And by the way, they interviewed Ron Rivera today, Yeah, apparently. Well, 293 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 3: I'm just saying so, I. 294 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: Don't know if you're thinking in terms of Clint Kubiak's 295 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: our guy. If you end up being the last team standing, 296 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:34,880 Speaker 1: then you just wait, right, I mean, I mean at. 297 00:15:34,760 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 4: This point you're not in a hurry. 298 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 2: Well, but the danger of that is what if he's 299 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: not your guy? What if you think he's your guy 300 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 2: and then he's like, nah. 301 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: I'm good, good Wow, good point that point and building 302 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,600 Speaker 3: a staff. Everybody else is putting their staffs together right now. 303 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 3: Dudes aren't waiting around to find out if they're going 304 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: to be maybe on Clint kubiak staff or Mike Lafleur's 305 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 3: staff in Arizona. 306 00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: I mean, you can work around some of that, like 307 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:01,960 Speaker 1: you gonna do backchannel on some of that, but you're 308 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: right to the point of if you have a for 309 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 1: sure job now versus waiting it for a theoretical job. 310 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 4: In two weeks now, that's a good point. You don't 311 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:11,280 Speaker 4: won't be the odd man out, what if you're Davi's Web. 312 00:16:12,920 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: So the point of reading that is Davis web is 313 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 1: not going to be hired today, and under the circumstances 314 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos have to go through the process of interviewing 315 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: different coordinator prospects. They already know Davis Webb, but really 316 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: well they got Carmichael internally, talk about Zach Stree. If 317 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:27,680 Speaker 1: there's a couple of other names, they're going to be 318 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 1: in that. But nothing is going to happen overnight. And 319 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,880 Speaker 1: then this move isn't a direct like, all right, Davis, 320 00:16:34,920 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: stop what you're doing out there in Las Vegas. Maybe 321 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: way to beat because he's gonna have to wait either way. 322 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:43,760 Speaker 1: At least that's what this looks like on the text line. 323 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 1: And I brought this up to you, I think yesterday, Dave, 324 00:16:47,960 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: this text Broncos have to hit better in the draft. 325 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: Taking Baron in the first round, we could have had 326 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:57,480 Speaker 1: Treyvon Henderson running backs, a bigger need over cornerback, a 327 00:16:57,520 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 1: puzzling pick at the time, and hindsight, definitely twenty twenty 328 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: even Judkins would have been a better pick in the 329 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: first round first rounders have to start. 330 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 3: Well, we haven't seen that much of Baron yet. Advance 331 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 3: didn't like to play rookies. I mean, I don't know 332 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 3: that I'm sweating that pict just yet. 333 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 2: No, I'm not ready to conclude that Jade Baron can't play, 334 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,800 Speaker 2: not at all. I'm not anywhere close to that. But 335 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 2: I will say this. I think I think that texture 336 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: there's some there's some merit to the text. Now, if 337 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: you take a running back in the first round, you 338 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: absolutely positively cannot He's got to be a camp miss guy. 339 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:45,200 Speaker 2: They haven't all been can't miss guys in the first round, 340 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 2: but you would like to if you if you drop, 341 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: because you can find running backs, you can find really 342 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: good running backs that are not first round guys. But 343 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 2: I think there's some validity to the texture's idea. But 344 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:00,840 Speaker 2: I'm not ready to say Baron is a bust. 345 00:18:01,840 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 4: Here was George Payton. He was asked about the defensive 346 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 4: players in the rookie class. Here is what he said today. 347 00:18:06,280 --> 00:18:07,080 Speaker 2: I think day. 348 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 6: He played nickel, he played dime, he played a little corner. 349 00:18:10,680 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 6: You can see all the trades, you know. He he 350 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 6: was good for us, probably not so good for him. 351 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 6: He was drafted to maybe the deepest second you know, 352 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 6: the corner back room in the league. And he made 353 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 6: he made his mark and he's just gonna keep growing, 354 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:27,200 Speaker 6: keep getting better. You know, second round was our our Jay. 355 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 6: But I'll stay with the defense and then saveon Jones again. 356 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 6: We draft, we really like where he's going. You know, 357 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,160 Speaker 6: we see the development in practice. I think he only 358 00:18:36,160 --> 00:18:38,600 Speaker 6: played thirty three snaps, but he had four or five pressures, 359 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 6: he had a fumble recovery. We knew he'd be you know, 360 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 6: a little development. But this guy's big, he's strong, he's athletic. 361 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 6: He's going to be a player. And then Q, I 362 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:48,879 Speaker 6: mean he may be the most have the most upside 363 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:49,879 Speaker 6: of me on our draft class. 364 00:18:49,920 --> 00:18:50,960 Speaker 4: And you could see it the other day. 365 00:18:51,040 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 6: I mean, he's long, he's athletic, he can run really 366 00:18:54,800 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 6: good in the run game, just learning how to rush, 367 00:18:57,840 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 6: just learning how to rush the passer. But has all 368 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 6: the trades and then you see what he does on 369 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 6: special teams. 370 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 4: So really encouraged with him. 371 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 6: And I think that's all the defensive guys right for that. 372 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 6: And we have two college you know, free agent linebackers. 373 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,760 Speaker 6: We like Lavelle Bailey, who had a little taste, and 374 00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 6: then Jordan you know, yeah, Jordan Taylor, who was really 375 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,520 Speaker 6: good on special teams. 376 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 4: So, first of all, Glowyn remarks by H. 377 00:19:22,240 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: Robinson, I mean that sack in the game, and certainly 378 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 1: he's he's gonna probably get some more tick. As you 379 00:19:27,800 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: would say, Dave in the years to come, save you on. 380 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: I think it's kind of like John A. Baron in 381 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: some respects, like it's a very deep room. The defensive 382 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: line room is very deep for the Broncos, and they 383 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: signed a lot of these guys back. Would you say 384 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 1: that's probably fair. I think the defensive line room is 385 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: sort of a unique position room in that the league 386 00:19:52,080 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: nowadays rotates guys in and out. It's not like the 387 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 1: offensive line room. Offensive lineman basically, with exception of maybe 388 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: a backup, maybe the five guys that start the game, 389 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 1: if they're healthy, those five guys are going to finish 390 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: the game. 391 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 2: That's not the case on defense. So you have to 392 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 2: develop depth at that defensive line position even more so 393 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 2: than you might at the offensive line position. Although I 394 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: think this year I would look for the Broncos to 395 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 2: go after some offensive lineman. I know they think they 396 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 2: think highly of Frank Crumb, and Frank can turn into 397 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:36,679 Speaker 2: an every down player. But I think also Ke Robinson 398 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,840 Speaker 2: is depth on the outside. I think it's sort of 399 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 2: interesting now and the wildcard to me is joanah Alis. 400 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: So what do you do? I think Jonah finished with 401 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 2: I don't know, five and a half sacks something like that, 402 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: But what is he an outside guy? Is he? Is 403 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,120 Speaker 2: he one of the guys in the mix. You've got 404 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:10,959 Speaker 2: Benito and Cooper? Would you do anything with you wouldn't 405 00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 2: do anything with Benito, Ellis, Q Robinson, Andre Tillman who 406 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 2: was very productive in a limited time. So they've got 407 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: a nice already room full of edge pass rushers. And 408 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 2: I just wonder now with Ke Robinson and for George 409 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 2: to bring him up, even though he was talking about 410 00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:36,159 Speaker 2: his rookies, I think that is a little bit telling. 411 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: I think they like Q Robinson's potential as well. 412 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: Jonah only got two and a half sacks actually in 413 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,360 Speaker 1: thirteen games because he was five last year. 414 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 2: I believe he. 415 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 4: Did, Yes, Yes, he had a breakout rookie season. 416 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 2: This year. 417 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:51,040 Speaker 4: It's sometimes thinking of the had five and a half Dondre. 418 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 3: Dondre had four four, Okay, yep. 419 00:21:56,720 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 2: Is Jonah is Jonah Ellis, Well, I think he's a 420 00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: really good football player. Is he an outside guy? Is 421 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,080 Speaker 2: he an inside Guy's brother who played for the Patriots 422 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:07,840 Speaker 2: moved inside. 423 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 3: What are you going to do inside? Well, that's the thing. 424 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 3: I mean, could you move Ellis there? I mean he's 425 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 3: six two two forty six. He's a little light in 426 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:18,159 Speaker 3: the you know what for an outside guy you would think, 427 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 3: I mean, especially in the system, he's a little light. 428 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 4: You could move him. 429 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 3: Maybe he plays that role they'd envisioned for Drew Sanders 430 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 3: the whole time. You know that it makes Alex Singleton 431 00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,040 Speaker 3: expendable and you. 432 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 4: You put him opposite Green Lawn. 433 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 3: He can be that guy that punches the big gap, 434 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,919 Speaker 3: you know, going after the quarterback instead of you know, 435 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: going away from the ball. 436 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, and then right Drew Sanders is here. I mean, 437 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,399 Speaker 1: you probably can't plan much around Drew Sanders. 438 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,399 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't give up on him yet because 439 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: of the injuries. But you look where he was drafted. 440 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 2: So the potential is there. And when you have a 441 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: human that is that large, it can run like that. 442 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: He will get every available opportunity to prove that he 443 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 2: can't play. So I think I don't think the Broncos 444 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 2: ready to move on from. 445 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 4: Drew Sanders back to Jade Baron for just a second. 446 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: I sort of feel like to the Texas point, you'd 447 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:12,160 Speaker 1: like to get more I guess ROI on your first 448 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: round pick, but then you acknowledge as well, having incredible death, 449 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:20,280 Speaker 1: like elite level death at the secondary is something that 450 00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:21,920 Speaker 1: every single team in the NFL wants. 451 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 4: And you get to the end of the year. 452 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 1: Now, the Broncos were fortunately this year because most of 453 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,200 Speaker 1: this guys stayed healthy all year. I mean, Pat was 454 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: on IR for a little bit, but Riley, Riley's out 455 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,879 Speaker 1: there every game. Jaqun was out there every single game. 456 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: You lost your safety, right Brandon Jones, But otherwise, like 457 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: the cornerback room stayed relatively healthy. That was not something 458 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,719 Speaker 1: you could say about the twenty twenty four season. So 459 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: it felt like the Jade Baron pick was a value 460 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 1: as in, we didn't think this guy would be here, 461 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,359 Speaker 1: and we think he's a tremendous player, and we believe 462 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: in the investment in him, and be maybe a response 463 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: to what happened towards the twenty twenty four season when 464 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: you had several guys in the secondary we were banged up. 465 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 2: Maybe a little bit of both, I would say, more 466 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 2: so the fact that he was available. And the Broncos 467 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,360 Speaker 2: with George Peyton and Sean Payton, have been a team 468 00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 2: a front office that they evaluate talent and they're going 469 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 2: to take their highest rated player. And I don't think 470 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,040 Speaker 2: anybody at the Bronco or in the Broncos organization could 471 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: believe that Jadday Baron was still there. Correct. So yeah, 472 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 2: they had a night. 473 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,600 Speaker 4: They had him I think a ninth on their board overall. 474 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, and they were shocked that Arizona in Miami did 475 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 3: not take him. 476 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 4: In Cincinnati. 477 00:24:26,560 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 3: I mean, you know, they had projected he'd probably go 478 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: one of those spots he. 479 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 4: Fell in their lab. 480 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:33,520 Speaker 3: The New York Giants had already called about moving up 481 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 3: to get Jackson Dart out of the Broncos spot. 482 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 1: So well, so this is the thing, Like, because I 483 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399 Speaker 1: brought it up to you yesterday, would you look back 484 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,960 Speaker 1: on this last game just we'll just take this one 485 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: game against Patriots where he Johnny Bear in your first 486 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 1: round pick, played five steps and that's just a fact. 487 00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:51,720 Speaker 4: And that's why. 488 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 2: But see, you have to you got to look at 489 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 2: it a little bit closer. Why, Okay, the Patriots, especially 490 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 2: in the second half, even in the first half, that 491 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 2: was a run first game. And does Jada and he's 492 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 2: rookie season, impact the game in a way that you 493 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,760 Speaker 2: can put him down in the box and he's, you know, 494 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: gonna gonna make a ton of plays. I mean, Baron 495 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 2: to me is a cover guy that is really smart, 496 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:29,440 Speaker 2: that has the ability to play inside in sub packages. Again, 497 00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he can't play outside, although he never 498 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 2: really even with Pat's injury and they went to Chris 499 00:25:36,280 --> 00:25:40,480 Speaker 2: Abrams drain. But I wouldn't read too much into it 500 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: given the way the game played out and how the 501 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 2: Patriots attacked the Broncos on offense, with the weather and 502 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 2: everything else, and the and the ability of the Broncos 503 00:25:49,359 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 2: to pressure the quarterback, so it's like, Okay, we're gonna 504 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 2: run it a thousand times. I wouldn't. I wouldn't look 505 00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 2: too much further into why Jade barn didn't play more. 506 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,840 Speaker 1: Snaps and leyamaha or so with you, and I think 507 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:04,560 Speaker 1: the context matters. But what I think Broncos fan see 508 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: is in the most important game of the season, arguably 509 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 1: AFC Championship game, our first rounder was not a major 510 00:26:11,720 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 1: factor in what we were doing. 511 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:17,080 Speaker 4: Meanwhile, if they would have taken Judkins or Trayvon Henderson 512 00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: or Hampton. 513 00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:22,120 Speaker 2: Henderson had a great season. I mean he's he's a 514 00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,400 Speaker 2: he was a hell of a rookie running back. How 515 00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: many toats did he get Sunday? He had ten? He 516 00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 2: was how many yards he was? 517 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 4: I won a lot. 518 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 3: He was a high, high variance guy all season two, 519 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 3: kind of like r J, where it'd be one yard, 520 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 3: two yard, one yard, two yard, one yard, rip one. 521 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 2: Spit out. Henderson is great, great speed. 522 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 4: I take that back. 523 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 2: He got three I was gonna say I didn't. I 524 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:41,960 Speaker 2: didn't think he had ten carries. 525 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 4: Drake May had ten, Yeah, Trayveon had three carries for 526 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:48,080 Speaker 4: five yards and receptions in there. I thought he hit one. 527 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: Okay, So it just turned into that kind of game, 528 00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 2: big boy game, slug fest. Let's get let's let ramondre 529 00:26:56,600 --> 00:27:00,280 Speaker 2: Stevens in the hammerhead pounded up in there. Let's get 530 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,399 Speaker 2: your people in our sub packages or run defense. Then 531 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 2: play it out. 532 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 1: Well, let me speak of the game, and probably this 533 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:10,320 Speaker 1: would be one of the last times we ever talked about. 534 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 1: Probably not but the fourth down call do you hear 535 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 1: what Sean said day about it. I don't know if 536 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: you guys got a chance to catch He regretted the call, 537 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: but more he regretted the call than yah, you know, 538 00:27:19,480 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: the call and the decision. 539 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, here we go. 540 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,239 Speaker 5: Now, specifically to the fourth down call. I don't know 541 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: which is the the greater regret. The decision is certainly 542 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 5: the play call. You know, back in the good old days, 543 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: you used to bill to get a measurement, and there 544 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 5: was something about a measurement that did two things. I 545 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 5: knew he was short, and when you look at the film, 546 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 5: he was actually a little shorter than they marked it. 547 00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 5: But it also buys you time to think of the 548 00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,880 Speaker 5: call you want, So we use the timeout. I think 549 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 5: probably would irks me more is the call more than 550 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:03,440 Speaker 5: the decision? It's it's it's still early in the game now, 551 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 5: you know, and we knew there was going to be 552 00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:10,200 Speaker 5: flurri as well. We have a new feel for flurries here, 553 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:12,960 Speaker 5: you know, or what can change at the basein of 554 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 5: the mountain. But that, yeah, there are those moments where 555 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 5: you know that you you wish you had back. 556 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 4: That was such a great Gussie. 557 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: That's news to me. Because Sean is basically right there 558 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: saying because I told you, he's so methodical in his preparation. 559 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 2: He talks about like what cleats they're going to wear, 560 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 2: and if it starts to do this, then he wants 561 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 2: the cleats change. He's he's had I've had conversations with 562 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 2: him where I'm like, wow, really, so I thought for 563 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,479 Speaker 2: sure he was aware that there was a storm coming in, 564 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: but what he basically just said said there was. I 565 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: thought it was going to be flurries. I didn't think 566 00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 2: it was going to be that. 567 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,640 Speaker 3: So maybe so maybe the one thing about having coached 568 00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 3: to the Dome all those years that he didn't have 569 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 3: to think. 570 00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: About Nope, that and how good was the gumbo jumping? 571 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,440 Speaker 4: Naya's just a fun word. I mean, I get it. 572 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 1: We we talked about it. Let it hay into the game. 573 00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: I was a little surprised. I was, but I'm not 574 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: a coach and I certainly wasn't helping with the game prep. 575 00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,479 Speaker 4: But I was surprised how significant the storm was. 576 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: I thought meant I thoughts meant like, Hey, it'll be 577 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: a dusting during the course of the game, and it'll 578 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,040 Speaker 1: it'll look like a snow globe. But it's gonna it's 579 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 1: gonna be a really beautiful ambience to the game from. 580 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 2: An aesthetic point of view. Yes, really seriously, Christiani had said. 581 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 4: I mean he tweeted out there was gonna be three 582 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 4: inches of snow. 583 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 3: We talked about that on the Broncos game day on 584 00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:42,520 Speaker 3: the warm up there, and then I was texting n'ama 585 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 3: because I was looking I was. 586 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 4: Looking over the west. Well you guys, you know on 587 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 4: the broadcast you're looking east. 588 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 2: I was looking at best. 589 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,280 Speaker 3: I saw it coming, and I'm furiously take like, dude, 590 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:51,760 Speaker 3: it's about to come down. 591 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, text and recar like snow is incoming. 592 00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,320 Speaker 2: It was. I mean, when you think about it, I've 593 00:29:58,360 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 2: seen a lot of games called a lot of games 594 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 2: in Denver that was about is hard as snow, Like 595 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 2: almost immediately as I can remember in Denver in a 596 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 2: long time. 597 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,720 Speaker 1: I seen this one call from you and Rick with 598 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: the shanked punt from Behringer. 599 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 2: I had no idea where it went out of boundary. 600 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 4: It's just so great. 601 00:30:17,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: Do you mind if I played this rock because it 602 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: was just so funny like Behringer Ver, Sorry, Barringer, here 603 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:22,160 Speaker 1: we go. 604 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 2: Bryce Behringer, the punter will feel this snap from Julian 605 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 2: Ashby eight yards deep and he's own end zone. Snap 606 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 2: is good kick on the way and it is shanked 607 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 2: and into the Patriot pinch. We don't know where. We 608 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 2: don't know where, but I said I I can't recall 609 00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: working one like this, So Denver's gonna have great field 610 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 2: position to start this drive. I think it's the thirty 611 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 2: two yard line of the Patriots had no I mean 612 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: no idea. You're looking at you're trying to talk. Obviously, 613 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: you're talking to the Bronx is listening to the broadcast, 614 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: and you're looking for yard lines. You're looking for there 615 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 2: are zero numbers visible on that field you had. You 616 00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,760 Speaker 2: had the three strikes full of the other. Yeah, the race, 617 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,880 Speaker 2: I think it's thirty two. 618 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 4: I did count it because there's. 619 00:31:19,280 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 2: No I mean, there was just no And then you 620 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 2: know the TV somehow had the ability with the five 621 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 2: yard marks cleared off. I guess on TV, but it 622 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 2: wasn't cleared off in the field, right, So you try 623 00:31:32,560 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 2: to look up and see they had. 624 00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 4: The ghost lines and the players were in the jersey. 625 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 4: It looked like ghosts on the strip. 626 00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, I mean it was a crazy day, 627 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 2: you know. 628 00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,200 Speaker 3: And remarkably, I was telling us my wife yesterday because 629 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 3: it was a beautiful day here, right, It was in 630 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 3: like the forties yesterday afternoon. So one day, one day 631 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,440 Speaker 3: difference the day before it's a blizzard at the game. 632 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,320 Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that's exactly entirely the reason the 633 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,800 Speaker 3: Broncos lost, but it played a role. It absolutely played 634 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 3: a role in the way both those teams perforce. By 635 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 3: the way, and you and I haven't I mean, I don't. 636 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: Want to revisit this because we've done this in the past. 637 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,360 Speaker 1: Because when the Broncos said that they were going to 638 00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 1: have a retractable roof, it came up with the are 639 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,560 Speaker 1: they going to play in the elements or not playing 640 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: the elements? Boy, I'll tell you I was driving home 641 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,960 Speaker 1: after the game, and that was the debate. Do we 642 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:24,960 Speaker 1: really want to see championship games in weather? And would 643 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 1: it not be better to have either domes or neutral 644 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: sites because you're not getting the best of both of 645 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: these teams under these circumstances. 646 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,280 Speaker 2: I think you'll have retractable a retractable roof. It will 647 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,360 Speaker 2: not be a dome. 648 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 4: No, No, we'll have a retractable roof. Would you put the 649 00:32:45,800 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 4: roof up? 650 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,440 Speaker 1: If the BRONC twenty thirty one whenever this is, you know, whatever, 651 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: it's done, and we're getting snow forecast for an AFC 652 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,800 Speaker 1: Championship game, playoff game at all under the circumstances of 653 00:32:58,800 --> 00:32:59,320 Speaker 1: the ownership. 654 00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 3: Just watched what they consider it. You think, what shutting 655 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:10,240 Speaker 3: the roof? Well, of course, what well the fans that 656 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:11,600 Speaker 3: are like, no, you gotta play in the elements. 657 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 2: The reason I have a retractable roof, I mean if 658 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,000 Speaker 2: you had a you know, if there was a make 659 00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 2: believe retractable roof on a power field of mile high 660 00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 2: Sunday Championship, the roof would have been closed, right, Okay, Like, 661 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 2: I'm a play in the elements guy. 662 00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 4: But if you have a retractable roof, you're gonna yes, 663 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 4: for sure, I. 664 00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:31,760 Speaker 2: Have a retractable room. How is that interesting? 665 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 4: It's fascinating to me if you had a retractable roof. 666 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 2: The reason you have a retractable roof is for days 667 00:33:38,800 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: like Sunday so you can close the roof. 668 00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 4: I thought old school, like. 669 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,320 Speaker 2: Let me ask you a question about this. All right, 670 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 2: let's go back to the Baltimore Ravens Denver Broncos. Great 671 00:33:55,360 --> 00:34:01,080 Speaker 2: half game here to my recollection, there there was no precipitation, 672 00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 2: but it was freezing cold. Mister flannel shirt, you're going 673 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,280 Speaker 2: to close the retractable roof because it's cold. 674 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 4: I close that button right there. I don't know if 675 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 4: we're gonna give it close the roof for the Chris 676 00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 4: sim style. I would. I would absolutely do that. I want, 677 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 4: I want as. 678 00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 2: If you were what if you were playing to the 679 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: Los Angeles Chargers in that game instead of that. 680 00:34:25,160 --> 00:34:27,120 Speaker 4: Oh that's a great one. The roof of stando with 681 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:28,680 Speaker 4: Jacksonville Jaguars, that roof stand open. 682 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,799 Speaker 3: Yes, I think you keep it open. Miami Dolphins, come 683 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 3: on in, all right, that roof stand open. That's a 684 00:34:32,600 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 3: fantastic point. 685 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: Well, thank you. 686 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 1: If there's an advantage to be had, But I mean, 687 00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:38,919 Speaker 1: you know in the New England Patriots, you're not gonna 688 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: get advantage there. 689 00:34:39,560 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: They played no, you know, I mean anybody would. I mean, 690 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,960 Speaker 2: you'd close that thing for Sunday. 691 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but if it's the Chargers or in the Ravens, yeah. 692 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 3: I certainly wasn't. In the Florio camp of the you know, 693 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 3: this is unplayable. This is stupid or whatever, you know, 694 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 3: like that whatever that stuff plan, it's a snow player. 695 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 2: Wait, Mike Florio said the game Sunday was unplayable. 696 00:34:57,520 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, I said this was stupid, unplayable. Everybody should be 697 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,799 Speaker 3: an adult all this, and I'm like, this is non 698 00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:02,360 Speaker 3: so well. 699 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: Maybe it's stupid, and maybe you make a case for 700 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: the dome, but it certainly wasn't unplayable. I can think 701 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:14,399 Speaker 2: of games if we're really really talking about, I mean 702 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 2: in the eighty two season, but the eighty two playoff season, 703 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 2: the Chargers and the Bengals played in Cincinnati. It was 704 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: minus like forty eight or fifty below zero. The year before, 705 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 2: we played the Raiders in Cleveland and the wind show 706 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,760 Speaker 2: was like minus forty. You know what happened? We played, 707 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:40,799 Speaker 2: We played. There is something too, I think that in 708 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 2: the NFL. That's there's a beauty to the NFL, Like, hey, 709 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 2: no matter what fellas, we're going out here and we 710 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 2: got to find a way to win a game. 711 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 3: Be careful what you asked for. The dome thing too. 712 00:35:51,719 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 3: Dome football is different. I'm just it just feels different. 713 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 3: It's a different experience. It feels different