1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:02,920 Speaker 1: To night. Michael Brown joins me here the former FEMA 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: director talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, no, Brownie, You're 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: doing a heck of a job. The Weekend with Michael Brown. 4 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: Hey broadcasting life from Denver, Colorado. It's the Weekend with 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 1: Michael Brown. Glad to have you joining the program today. 6 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: You know, we have rules of engagement in the program. 7 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:19,440 Speaker 1: The easiest one is if you want to tell me 8 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: something or ask me something. Easiest way to do that 9 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:23,920 Speaker 1: is with the text line. The text line numbers three 10 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: three one zero three three three one zero three, keyword 11 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: micro Michael. You can tell me anything or ask me anything, 12 00:00:30,040 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: and then do me a favor. Go follow me on x, Instagram, 13 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,599 Speaker 1: and Facebook. All of the handles on all of the 14 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: social media platforms are at Michael D. Brown at Michael D. Brown. 15 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 1: Go do that right now. You know, by now, have 16 00:00:45,800 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: you listened to the program for a long time that 17 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: you know I'm a non practicing lawyer. I practiced law 18 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of decades and then went to DC 19 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: and served as the under Secretary of Homeland Security, and 20 00:00:57,520 --> 00:00:59,520 Speaker 1: then came back and started doing radio. And I've been 21 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 1: doing radio for twenty years, and I love it and 22 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: really don't want to do anything else. But I think 23 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,559 Speaker 1: back on some of the stories that I recall from 24 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:12,759 Speaker 1: being in, particularly in federal court. Now, federal court's a 25 00:01:12,800 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: different animal than state court. And I don't mean this 26 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: in a bad way, but state court's a little more 27 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:22,759 Speaker 1: loosey goosey. In state court, the rules of procedure can 28 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: be bent a little bit. Docats aren't quite as tight. 29 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 1: Judges seem to have a little more leeway in what 30 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: they do. But the federal judiciary, because their jurisdiction is 31 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 1: somewhat limited, and because they do indeed have lifetime appointments, 32 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:42,120 Speaker 1: they don't have to worry about even a retention ballot. 33 00:01:42,200 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Say in for example, in Colorado, we have a retention 34 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,280 Speaker 1: ballot where every year we vote on whether judges in 35 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,400 Speaker 1: like that live within the jurisdiction where I live, where 36 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 1: I physically live. I will vote whether or not those 37 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: district judges ought to be retained or not. And they 38 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: come up every few years, every four years, whatever it is. 39 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: And then the same for the Colorado State Supreme Court justices, 40 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:05,600 Speaker 1: I vote whether or not to retain them, and of 41 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: course I always vote no, even judges that I like 42 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: I vote no, and I vote no because I just 43 00:02:13,639 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 1: want to see some turnover and I want those judges 44 00:02:16,639 --> 00:02:20,640 Speaker 1: to have some accountability when you get to the federal 45 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: court and the federal system. Federal judges have a lifetime appointment, 46 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:32,480 Speaker 1: and that lifetime appointment is good so long as they 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 1: uphold their oath, so long as they adhere to the 48 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 1: canons of judicial ethics, so long as they do those 49 00:02:39,880 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: things that we would expect a judge to do, not 50 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: violate the code of ethics, not engage in bribery. We've 51 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: had an example, there was a judge in Florida who 52 00:02:51,080 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: was convicted of by bribery. I impeached, removed from office. 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: He actually ran for Congress lator and became a congressman 54 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: in Florida. But that the accountability that federal judges have 55 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,520 Speaker 1: is the impeachment process. And of course they're subject to 56 00:03:08,520 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: criminal laws too, which would result, you know, if they 57 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 1: were convicted of some crime burglary, assault and battery, whatever, 58 00:03:15,720 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: more than likely. I would like to think anyway, that 59 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 1: members of Congress would then take actions to remove that 60 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:25,679 Speaker 1: federal judge, because clearly you cannot, you don't have the 61 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:28,679 Speaker 1: judicial temperament to be a judge if you've committed armed 62 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 1: robbery or assault and battery or anything else. But in 63 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 1: the practice in federal courts, from a lawyer's point of view, 64 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:43,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot more strict. You have very set times, 65 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: you have very set procedures, the rules of civil procedure, 66 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:52,200 Speaker 1: the rules of criminal procedure. Everything that you adhere to 67 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: is really held to a much higher standard, a much 68 00:03:56,720 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: stricter standard than there is in state court. Now that's 69 00:04:00,760 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: not to say that state court is just a wild zoo, 70 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: that is just a wild West. It's just there's an 71 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: entirely different attitude when a federal judge either compliments you, 72 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 1: compliments you, or choose your butt out for having said something. 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: I got my ass chewed out by a federal judge 74 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: one time, and I mean it just you know, I 75 00:04:21,360 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: was shaking in my boots. I for you, I've been 76 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:27,600 Speaker 1: practicing law quite a while. But nonetheless, federal judge choose 77 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 1: you out, there's just something different. Any judge chews you out, 78 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: there's something different about it, because you know they've got 79 00:04:34,560 --> 00:04:37,359 Speaker 1: the power contempt, they have the power of sanctions. They 80 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 1: can do any number of things to you that you 81 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,920 Speaker 1: know they could. I'm not sure they could technically move 82 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 1: you from a case. But you know, you get sanctioned 83 00:04:45,520 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: by a court for doing something that the judge doesn't like, 84 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: or you know, you get an held contempt, a client's 85 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: likely to say, you know what, I think I'll find 86 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:59,719 Speaker 1: a different lawyer. I don't remember a time in my 87 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 1: entire life when the federal judiciary has inserted itself into 88 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:14,919 Speaker 1: the executive branch's decision in such a public way and 89 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: in such a way that, from my point of view, 90 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: seems to be that you're legislatie from the bench. That 91 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: seems to me, you don't like the policies, and so 92 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: you're going to go after the policies of the executive 93 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: branch because I just don't think they like Donald Trump. Now, 94 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: I don't think Donald Trump is He's certainly not Christ. 95 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: He's not a perfect human being. He does a lot 96 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: of things that bug me. His some of his mannerisms, 97 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 1: in some of the way that he treats, and you know, 98 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: just some of the things he does. I just having, 99 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,279 Speaker 1: you know, worked you know, hand in hand with the 100 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: president that was you know, a lot of people didn't 101 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: like George Bush's politics, but you know, the press made 102 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 1: fun of Bush. He couldn't speak very eloquently. Now when 103 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:07,960 Speaker 1: he wanted to, he really could, but he was and 104 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 1: I've often told people this that the private side of 105 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:15,520 Speaker 1: George W. Bush was a lot like a frat boy. 106 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: You could have an incredibly serious meeting in the Oval Office, 107 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:22,560 Speaker 1: and then afterwards and when the meeting was concluding, you know, 108 00:06:22,880 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: he cracked some jokes. He might be in the you 109 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: might be in the beast with him, and and there 110 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: were numerous times that you know, Bush and I would 111 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 1: be driving somewhere and there would be jokes cracked, and 112 00:06:32,920 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: you know it was he was funny. He was truly funny. 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: Bush never did anything just in terms of personnel or 114 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: personality or behavior that I found off putting or that 115 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: I found, you know, that's not very presidential. On the 116 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,880 Speaker 1: other hand, a lot of people find things that Donald 117 00:06:56,920 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: Trump does to be not very presidential. But if you 118 00:07:00,880 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: set aside that and you look at Trump's policies, there's 119 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,640 Speaker 1: a lot to like, very little to dislike. But for 120 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: some reason, the federal judiciary has taken their personal dislike 121 00:07:15,360 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: of Donald Trump and are now using it, I think 122 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 1: in ways that are well, quite frankly, not very judicial 123 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: after nearly a year of trying, I think every trick 124 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: this judge can find in the rules of civil procedure 125 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:37,640 Speaker 1: and criminal procedure, everything in the so called judicial Bible, 126 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: if there was one, including threats to hold Trump officials 127 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: in contempt. Judge James Boseburg has finally done something. He 128 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: has officially ordered the return of those Venezuelan nationals that 129 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: got deported last year this past week. Boseburg, who is 130 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: the Obama appointed Chief Judge of the District Court, of 131 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: the District Court, which is probably in terms of power, 132 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 1: all of the judges the d C Court, District Court, 133 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 1: the trial courts, the d C Appellate Court, are probably 134 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: the most powerful one. They're they're in the top five. 135 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 1: They're probably in the top three of powerful courts because 136 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: obviously their jurisdiction includes federal officials. They sit in the 137 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: District of Columbia, so they sit in the very power 138 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: of government. So any lawsuits regarding the government's ability or 139 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: inability to do something ends up originally in the d 140 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:39,800 Speaker 1: C district courts now, but there are cases obviously that 141 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: you know, arise out of federal actions that will appear 142 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 1: in other district courts all around the country, but that 143 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,040 Speaker 1: is the primary place where they occur. So it's an 144 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:54,560 Speaker 1: incredibly powerful district. So this this past week, Boseburg, who 145 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: is the chief judge, so he's kind of the administrative person. 146 00:08:59,440 --> 00:09:01,679 Speaker 1: He oversees the functions of the courts and all the 147 00:09:01,720 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: other judges, he's one that they all go to to. 148 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 1: You know, my coffeemaker's not working, so a clerk will 149 00:09:08,679 --> 00:09:11,960 Speaker 1: go to Judge Boseberg's office that you know, our coffee 150 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,240 Speaker 1: maker's not working, so we need a new coffee maker. 151 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: He issued another opinion that is just filled with loathing, 152 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: loathing for the Department of Justice, and it's at the 153 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:31,199 Speaker 1: same time filled with sympathy for these one hundred and 154 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 1: thirty seven Venezuelans who were flown out of the country 155 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: pursuant to President Trump's executive determination under the Alien Enemies Act. 156 00:09:42,240 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 1: So why do you need to know about this story? 157 00:09:45,160 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 1: Text Lines open three three, one zero three keyword Mike 158 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: or Michael. 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The men 174 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: who were here illegally, and we're also accused of having 175 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:57,200 Speaker 1: ties to the Venezuelan gang Trenda Ragua that is a 176 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: multi national crime racket that has been dead. They did 177 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,080 Speaker 1: lawfully designated ay foreign terrorist organization by the Trump administration. 178 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: So accusing the Trump administration of telling him, the judge 179 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: to pound sand related to his NonStop barrage of what 180 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 1: I think are unreasonable demands to get illegal aliens back 181 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: on American soil. You know, let me just when those 182 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: words come out of my mouth. Let's just stop for 183 00:11:22,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: a moment. If if you're out protesting ICE and you 184 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: don't want to see ICE, now, maybe you're protesting the 185 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,680 Speaker 1: way they do it. Okay, that's fine, but I don't 186 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 1: really think that's what's going on. Or if you're a 187 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 1: member of Congress and you're trying to withhold you're trying 188 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: to defund ICE, so you're calling for the defunding of ICE. 189 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 1: Or you're Judge Boseburg and you're telling that you know, 190 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: you're saying or claiming that Trump is telling you to 191 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: pound sand related to his, you know, the judge's demands 192 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: to get these illegals back on American soil. What are 193 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: you really doing? Aren't you telling the entire world? And 194 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: I know you're getting cover because the cabal is going 195 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,640 Speaker 1: to give you cover, But aren't you really saying, Hey, 196 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: you know, we have these gang members that we deported. 197 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 1: Now we'll get to the procedural issues and their rights 198 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: or of non rights to constitutional due process in a minute, 199 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 1: but assume for a moment that they have no constitutional 200 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: right to do process. They have they have been deported. 201 00:12:29,240 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 1: They are criminals, and we have taken them out of 202 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:35,400 Speaker 1: the country and we sent them to another country and 203 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 1: they're in jail for those for those crimes. Are you 204 00:12:39,360 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: really telling me you went then brought back here. Why 205 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: doesn't that seem to be the antithesis of what you 206 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: would want a federal judge to do. We'll get to 207 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: that in a minute. I I just want you to 208 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:57,959 Speaker 1: keep thinking about that for a moment. So Boseburg. Judge Boseburg, 209 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,319 Speaker 1: who is kind of acting as if he is a 210 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 1: personal guardian for these illegal Venezuelan gang members. I mean, 211 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:09,679 Speaker 1: since the first case came on as docket almost a 212 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: year ago March back in twenty twenty five, has been 213 00:13:13,480 --> 00:13:16,560 Speaker 1: directing the government to provide for the physical return of 214 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: those who currently reside in a third party country and 215 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: to arrange remote hearings for those who are still in 216 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: Venezuela so they can begin their habeas corpus proceedings. A 217 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 1: habeas corpus proceeding is basically where you file you think 218 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,560 Speaker 1: someone has been wrongly jailed, and so you file a 219 00:13:40,600 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: motion for habeas corpus, basically compelling the government to produce 220 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: the body. Habeas corpus, you know, bring the body to 221 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 1: the court so that the court can determine whether or 222 00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: not you're being properly detained. And he's wanting American taxpayers 223 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 1: to arrange remote hearings for those who are in jail 224 00:13:58,520 --> 00:14:02,960 Speaker 1: in Venezuela. They can have their habeas corpus proceedings. Now. 225 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 1: The illegals were first sent to Al Salvador to be processed, 226 00:14:07,080 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: and then they get flown to Venezuela. And during a 227 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: court hearing last week, the American Civil Liberties Union, which 228 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,000 Speaker 1: is representing the illegals in this case and a bunch 229 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: of several you know lawsuits, informed the judge that some 230 00:14:23,040 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 1: of their clients had left Venezuela, where they get transfermed 231 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 1: from Al Salvador to Venezuela, and then they leave Venezuela. 232 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,480 Speaker 1: Who knows where they are. And Boseburg wants you, as 233 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: the taxpayer, to pay for all of this. Boseberg wrote 234 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 1: in response to the Department of Justice level headed arguments 235 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: against their return, including the judicial branches overstepping into foreign affairs. 236 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 1: The judge wrote this mindful of the flagrancy of the 237 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: government's violations of the deport deep due process rights that 238 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: landed the illegal Venezuelans in this situation. The court refuses 239 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: to let them languish. In the solution less Meyer the 240 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: defendants proposed. In other words, it is up to the 241 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: government to remedy the wrong that it perpetrated here and 242 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: to provide a means for doing so where it. Otherwise, 243 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 1: the government could simply remove people from the United States 244 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: without providing any process, and then, once they were in 245 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: a foreign country, deny them any right to return for 246 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: a hearing or opportunity to present their case from abroad. 247 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: Of course, this so called right to return is judicial gobbledegook. 248 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: It's judicial bull crap. Broseberg keeps going back to the 249 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: infamous case of Kilmore Abregio Garcia. That's the Maryland dad 250 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: in air quotes that was wrongly deported El salvad Or 251 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 1: his home country, but he was not removed under the 252 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 1: Alien Enemies Act. Those imaginary rights come with a price 253 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: tag for American taxpayers, and during a hearing on that 254 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: matter last week, Boseburg asked Lee Glert, he is the 255 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 1: American Civil liberties attorney representing the illegals, If he quote 256 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 1: would request a government plane to return them, why why 257 00:16:29,960 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: should we return them if they were under the Alien 258 00:16:34,200 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Enemies Act lawfully determined by the executive branch to be 259 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: enemies alien in this country, and that we have a 260 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 1: right to remove them from the country, which we do. 261 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:54,040 Speaker 1: He has the audacity to suggest to the lawyers, hey, 262 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: you ought to request a government plane to get them 263 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,560 Speaker 1: back here. Well, you know what if they're your client 264 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: once you arranged on back here. Now he didn't give 265 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 1: a direct The ACLU lawyer didn't give a direct answer, 266 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: but he did unequivocally state that if they do come back, 267 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: the government should pay for it. So his clients want 268 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: to return to the United States in order to clear 269 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:23,359 Speaker 1: their name, clear the name for what we've made the 270 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: determination that you were here illegally. You are a part 271 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: of a transnational criminal organization, and he wants you out 272 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 1: of the country. So Boseberg advised the ACLU lawyer to 273 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 1: force the government to prove that the deportees were indeed 274 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:43,120 Speaker 1: members of Trendall Rogue when they were removed, even mocking 275 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: the idea that the TDA gang members don't have tattoos, 276 00:17:48,040 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: which is one of the identifiers the Trump administration routinely 277 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:56,400 Speaker 1: cites in filings as proof of membership in TDA, and 278 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,960 Speaker 1: to that end, he gave the acl you everything they wanted. 279 00:18:03,160 --> 00:18:05,880 Speaker 1: What did that include? Hang tight? I'll tell you that 280 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: to night. Michael Brown joins me here, the former FEMA 281 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: director of talk show host Michael Brown. Brownie, No, Brownie, 282 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: You're doing a heck of a job The Weekend with 283 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: Michael Brown. Welcome back to the Weekend with Michael Brown. Lead. 284 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:28,720 Speaker 1: Have you joining the program today? We're talking about Judge 285 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:32,160 Speaker 1: Bosberg and these Venezuelans have been deported, and now how 286 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: the federal judiciary is so hell bent on opposing every 287 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:41,480 Speaker 1: single thing that Trump does, and not just opposing, but 288 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 1: bending over backwards to give the defendants rights that you 289 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: and I would probably never get in federal court, rights 290 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: that if if I got. Now, I'm a bad example 291 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:58,880 Speaker 1: because I'm an American citizen, so i have all these 292 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: constitutional rights at to me, and I've not committed any crimes, 293 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: and I'm not a member of other than being an 294 00:19:05,359 --> 00:19:07,680 Speaker 1: employee of iHeart. I'm not a member of any sort 295 00:19:07,720 --> 00:19:13,920 Speaker 1: of a violent gang except for iHeart. But so I 296 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:18,480 Speaker 1: don't know, there's just no good example other than these 297 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,320 Speaker 1: people have been convicted of crimes, and even those who 298 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: have not been convicted of crimes have been determined to 299 00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:33,040 Speaker 1: be members of groups that are subject to the Enemy 300 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: Aliens Act and therefore subject to removal from the country. 301 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 1: And we've done that, and this judge, now, based on 302 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: pleadings from the ACLU, is bending over backwards to give 303 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: them a so called day in court to which I 304 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: do not think they are entitled. And you're talking to 305 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: guy who represented a lot of people on federal court, 306 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:06,159 Speaker 1: including law enforcement officers, who my number one priority was 307 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: to make sure that their constitutional rights were preserved, even 308 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:12,120 Speaker 1: in murder cases. Take take it out of federal court 309 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: for a moment, you know. I got court appointed to 310 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:17,479 Speaker 1: represent people in murder cases, not very many, but three 311 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:22,040 Speaker 1: or four. And people asked me because I actually got 312 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:25,000 Speaker 1: out of four cases, I got one acquitted, and I 313 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: think it was the right thing. I never did believe 314 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:32,119 Speaker 1: that this individual was guilty of murder. The other there 315 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: were three other cases, and there were three other people involved. 316 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 1: I thought they were guilty. I believe they were guilty. 317 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,160 Speaker 1: So my job was just make certain that the government 318 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: proved their case beyond a reasonable doubt, because if they 319 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 1: couldn't do that, they should not have been convicted. But 320 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 1: they ended up being convicted. I think maybe a couple 321 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: of them are probably you know, I don't know, they're 322 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,679 Speaker 1: probably still in jail. And a couple of teenagers at 323 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 1: the time that quite frankly I help, are still in jail. 324 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: So don't feed me the crap about I don't care 325 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,480 Speaker 1: about due process because I do so. As I said 326 00:21:10,480 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: before the break, Judge Boseburg gave the ACLU lawyer everything 327 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: that he wanted. So by the end of this month, 328 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,440 Speaker 1: the ACLU must inform the court as to the number 329 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: of illegal Venezuelas who wish to travel independently to a 330 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,760 Speaker 1: US port of entry or the number who wished to 331 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: be flown from a third country to the United States 332 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: for their court proceedings. Now here's what's going to happen. Now. 333 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:42,040 Speaker 1: Do you think they really want to of course, they 334 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:43,760 Speaker 1: probably want to come back to the country because they've 335 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: been convinced by a bunch of mngos, lawyers and others 336 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: that hey, you ought to come back to the country 337 00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: because we can get you off and you can go 338 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,439 Speaker 1: back to committing your crime. You can go back and 339 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: be organize your crimes back in you know, wherever you 340 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: are Aurora, Colorado, or wherever you can come back and 341 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: do it again. So by the end of the month, 342 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: the ACLU will tell the judge how many of their defendants, 343 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: how many of their clients want to come back to 344 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: the US independently, you know, and give themselves up at 345 00:22:11,600 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: a port of entry, or how many want to be 346 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,439 Speaker 1: flown from a third country to the United States for 347 00:22:16,560 --> 00:22:20,920 Speaker 1: their court hearings. Now they're going to get detained upon 348 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 1: their arrival. Even Bosberg admits that although petitions for release, 349 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 1: there's no question in my mind that the ACLU already 350 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,679 Speaker 1: has petitions for the release already in the works. So 351 00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: forcing you and me as taxpayers to pay for their 352 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:40,320 Speaker 1: travel to the judge, represents a reasonable request. He said. 353 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: It is unclear why the illegal Venezuelans should bear the 354 00:22:43,920 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 1: financial cost of their return in such an instance, because 355 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,439 Speaker 1: they don't learn they're not entitled to a hearing. In 356 00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: my opinion, you've made this up, Judge. I have a suggestion, 357 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: how about the ACLU that has twenty six million dollars 358 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 1: in assets? Why don't you foot the bill instead? Alternative 359 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: leave you Why don't you establ if you're an illegal alien, 360 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: if you're a member of trend to Aragua, why don't 361 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: you go to one of your gang leaders and ask 362 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 1: them for some cash to come back, or why don't 363 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:16,440 Speaker 1: you set up a gofund me account you may kill 364 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: You know what a Brigao Garcia did that he's raised 365 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: more than a quarter of a million dollars so far. 366 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:29,120 Speaker 1: So what would a trend to Ragua reunion in US 367 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: custody look like? In one of the few moments where 368 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: the judge had a little bit of clarity, Boseberg acknowledged that, well, 369 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 1: you know, the situation in Venezuela remains in flux. No 370 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:44,360 Speaker 1: Feezi Sherlock, you don't think so, huh, And he even 371 00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 1: admitted they're returning anyone still in Venezuela would be nearly impossible, 372 00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: but nonetheless would permit those that want to stay in 373 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,280 Speaker 1: Venezuela who can't get out of Venezuela to file another 374 00:23:55,400 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: pleading in order to quote show that the proclamation under 375 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 1: which they were deported unlawfully in vote the Alien Enemies Act, 376 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,000 Speaker 1: and or that they are not members of trend to 377 00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:10,520 Speaker 1: Arragua and that's not subject to the President's proclamation. So 378 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 1: these remote hearings, according to the judge, would be the 379 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:18,679 Speaker 1: next step with quote logistics of those hearings determine at 380 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: a future date what's that going to look like? Are 381 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,200 Speaker 1: they all going to get together in a conference room 382 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 1: somewhere in Caracas and all sit down in front of 383 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: I don't know. Why don't we send them, you know, 384 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of MacBook pros and let them get on 385 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: you know, teams or zoom or something, and we'll have 386 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 1: a remote hearing like that. I guess I'd like to know, Hey, aclu, 387 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:42,240 Speaker 1: are you going to fight to Caracas and sit in 388 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 1: the conference room with them for the meat, for the 389 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: for the hearing and then in a full circle, Boseburg said, 390 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:53,879 Speaker 1: a March thirteen deadline a month from now. It's just 391 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: a day less than a month from now for the 392 00:24:56,320 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Department of Justice to file a report quote explain how 393 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:05,840 Speaker 1: and when it will transport any plaintiff any Venezuelan seeking 394 00:25:05,880 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: to return to the United States from a third country. 395 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: In that status report, the government shall also inform the 396 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:15,199 Speaker 1: court as to the feasibility of returning plaintiffs still in 397 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:18,240 Speaker 1: Venezuela who wished to return for their proceeding. You know, 398 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: I got the answer for that already. If I'm the 399 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 1: Department of Justice, I would say, hey, you know what, 400 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: we looked at it. It's not feasible. It's not feasible, 401 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 1: and you want to you want to grill us about it. Okay, 402 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: let's see, we we don't have in a budget to 403 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: get a you know what, what are we gonna do. 404 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,119 Speaker 1: Are we gonna go out to Andrews Air Force Base, 405 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Joint Base Andrews and ask for a seven fifty seven? 406 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: Are we going to ask for you know, air Force one? Oh, 407 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: let's put them on some Gulf Streams. Let's just you know, 408 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: let's just get some G six hundreds and fly them 409 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,560 Speaker 1: all down to Caracas and put them on a really nice, 410 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,520 Speaker 1: you know, leather seated you know, gulf stream you know, 411 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 1: and make sure we got you know, the Air Force 412 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: has got you know, the stewards on board to make 413 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: sure that they can get fed properly and everything on 414 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:09,920 Speaker 1: their flight back from Caracas. Holy cow, we are nuts. Now. 415 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 1: That date, March thirteen just happens to be two days 416 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 1: shy of the one year annaversary of Boseberg's order where 417 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:23,000 Speaker 1: he said return the plane's moment on March fifteen last year, 418 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: and an oral order. Virtually he literally said, hey, tell 419 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: those planes to turn around. They're out in international waters, 420 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,560 Speaker 1: they're out in international airspace. Turn the planes around, tell 421 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: them to come back. An oral order that the judge 422 00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: insists to this day represents the Trump administration's defiance of 423 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 1: his wishes. Now, if that's not interfering in foreign affairs, 424 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: I don't know what is. So it appears to me 425 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 1: that this judge will go to any extreme at any cost, 426 00:26:53,400 --> 00:26:58,639 Speaker 1: including two American taxpayers, to win this personal fight against 427 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:03,520 Speaker 1: the President and the Apartment of Justice that he despises. Now, 428 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,720 Speaker 1: the DOJ is expected and warned as much in its 429 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,879 Speaker 1: latest filing to ask Boseburg to put a hold on 430 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:14,359 Speaker 1: his own order pending appeal, which I doubt he'll do. So. 431 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,840 Speaker 1: That leads the Department of Justice to make yet another 432 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: trip to the DC Circuit Court, which has already reversed 433 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 1: Boseburg at least twice, to get relief, To get relief 434 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:32,320 Speaker 1: from this judge's increasingly dangerous and I think costly grudge match. Meanwhile, 435 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:36,840 Speaker 1: remember when I talked about judges get appointed for life. 436 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: Want to bring this full circle. Judges get appointed for life. 437 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 1: Now at the state level, I can vote not to 438 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:47,199 Speaker 1: retain a judge. Now, I never can get enough people 439 00:27:47,400 --> 00:27:49,439 Speaker 1: to remove a judge. Oh, it's happened a few times, 440 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 1: but not enough. And these federal judges have appointments for life. 441 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: So I'd like to know, Hey, Republicans, they control both 442 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:05,520 Speaker 1: the House and the Senate, can we get at least 443 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: a peep a peep maybe about moving forward with impeachment 444 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: for this judge trying to interfere in foreign affairs, to 445 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: interfere in foreign policy, to interfere in the president's sole 446 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,840 Speaker 1: discretion that he has under the Alien Enemies Act to 447 00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: remove people who are meant who have been determined to 448 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:35,960 Speaker 1: be a foreign terrorist organization operating on American soil. They 449 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: have no constitutional rights. This for those of you, and 450 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,880 Speaker 1: I haven't looked at the text line, but I'm sure 451 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: there are people on the text line. There's going to 452 00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: be no accountability, and I'm thinking of this no accountability. 453 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: Have you made a call to your Republican member of Congress. 454 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: Have you least expressed to them that you'd like to 455 00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 1: see some action done, because I guarandamn tu one thing. 456 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: Even though they may not do anything, they certainly will 457 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 1: never do anything if we don't rise up and start 458 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: demanding the Congress hold these federal judges account. I'll be 459 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:26,720 Speaker 1: right back. It's the weekend with Michael Brown. Glad to 460 00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: have you with me. You know, if you like what 461 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: we do on the weekend, if you like what we 462 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: do on Saturday, then do me a favor. If you 463 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 1: stream us, if you listen on the iHeart app, then 464 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: go set a preset for a station in Denver call 465 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: Letters or KOA. It's located on the dial at eight 466 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: fifty am ninety four to one FM. Get that as 467 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: a preset, and then you can listen to the weekday 468 00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 1: program Monday through Friday on KOA from nine to noon 469 00:29:53,920 --> 00:30:01,480 Speaker 1: Mountain time, which is what eleven to Eastern time or 470 00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 1: eight to eleven Pacific time, whatever it might be. So 471 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 1: go do that. Set a precept for KOA eight fifty 472 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 1: am ninety four to one FM on your iHeart app. 473 00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: So now the bad news, How about a little good 474 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:20,000 Speaker 1: news about these judges. The Fifth Circuit Court of Appeals 475 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: down in Louisiana, which covers Texas, in a two to 476 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: one decision, upheld the Trump administration's interpretation of federal statutes 477 00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: that are related to these bond requirements for illegal aliens, 478 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: so that decision alone represents a huge blow to hundreds 479 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 1: of District court judges who have been opposing the Department 480 00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:46,560 Speaker 1: of Justice position that anybody here illegally, regardless of how long, 481 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: must be detained held pending either removal and or a 482 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:57,719 Speaker 1: status proceeding. In a nutshell, the Trump administration has been 483 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 1: arguing for a long time that illegal aliens are not 484 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: entitled to bond hearings, regardless of how a previous administration, 485 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: whether Biden, Bush, Obama, anybody, doesn't make any difference. The 486 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: Trump administration says that you're not entitled to a bond hearing. 487 00:31:14,280 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: So judges and lawyers representing the illegal aliens claim mandatory 488 00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:23,160 Speaker 1: detention applies only to those who are seeking admission at 489 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,520 Speaker 1: the border. Of course, we don't have many of those anymore, 490 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 1: and it doesn't apply to those who are already here. 491 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 1: So that resulted in the release of several hundred existing 492 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: illegals arrested by the Department of Homeland Security since January 493 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty five. But two judges strongly disagreed, cited 494 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 1: Supreme Court precedent that appears to support their view. In 495 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:52,680 Speaker 1: the opinion, they wrote, unadmitted aliens. Illegal aliens apprehended anywhere 496 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 1: in the United States are ineligible for release un bond, 497 00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: regardless of how long they have resided in the un 498 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: United States. Can we get a least get a golf 499 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: clip for that? Now explained about habeas corpus petitions, Those 500 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: petitions are crushing, absolutely crushing the legal and the judicial 501 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 1: system across the country, but particularly in the Fifth Circuit, 502 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: which includes Texas. A recent Department of Justice filing noted 503 00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: that more than seventy five percent of all new civil 504 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: cases filed this month in the Western District of Texas 505 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:39,160 Speaker 1: alone are immigration habeas corpus cases. Contrast that in all 506 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: of twenty twenty four, immigration habeas corpus cases made up 507 00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: less than three percent of all civil filings. So what 508 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: they're trying to do is they're trying to flood the zone. 509 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: The American Civil Liberties Union is trying to completely flood 510 00:32:56,600 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: the zone with habeas corpus cases, demanding bond hearings all 511 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: demand and in the Fifth Circuit, in a two to 512 00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: one decision, said no, the Supreme Court's already ruled in 513 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: this and you don't have to have a bond hearing. 514 00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: So if the administration. If the executive branch wants to 515 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: hold them under current federal law, they can do so 516 00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: without a hearing. Now, why is that important? One? You 517 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: want to keep the courts free of of you know, 518 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: of trying to prevent the ACLU from bogging down these 519 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: courts so much, with so many cases about illegal aliens 520 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: that judges are just willing illy granting bond hearings and 521 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,720 Speaker 1: letting them out. And the Fifth Circuit said, no, you 522 00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: can't do that. Now, the Fifth Circuit obviously doesn't control 523 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: what happens in the other circuits, but clearly now the 524 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: Department of Justice and the Department of Homeland Security can 525 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: cite that Fifth Circuit opinion in any ongoing and future 526 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: Habeast petitions as the matter heads to the Supreme Court, 527 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: which according to what you know, why doesn't Supreme Court 528 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 1: come in here and slap down Judge Boseburg in the 529 00:34:06,040 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: DC Circuit Because they haven't gotten the cases yet, That's why. 530 00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: Now does that mean that there's something that prevents Justice 531 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 1: Roberts from picking up the phone and saying to Judge Boseburg, Hey, 532 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: could you explain to me what you're doing? Could you 533 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:27,920 Speaker 1: explain me you know, that's pretty touchy because the Supreme 534 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:32,440 Speaker 1: Court informally should not be doing that. I guess I'm 535 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: the jerk, because if I were the Chief Justice of 536 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court, I would at least be going 537 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: to some judicial conferences. I would at least be giving 538 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 1: a speech maybe, or I might be picking up the 539 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: phone and saying, Hey, Judge Boseburg, we've ruled that these 540 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 1: people are not entitled to bond hearings, and they're and 541 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,360 Speaker 1: and we're we got a case coming up that they're not. 542 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,040 Speaker 1: You know, we may rule, we don't know yet. He 543 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: may rule that they're not entitled to habeas corpus hearings, 544 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: particularly if they've been deported under the Alien Enemies Act. 545 00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: So I would suggest that you might want to just 546 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 1: lay off this a little bit. You know why they 547 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 1: won't do that one because Boseburg is exactly the type 548 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 1: of judge that would come out and publicly claim, Hey, 549 00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: the Supreme Courts trying to know the Chief Justice is 550 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: trying to tell me what to do, and they're independent judges, 551 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: and the proper way to do it is to slap 552 00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:34,240 Speaker 1: them down based on cases, not based upon phone calls. 553 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: So here's Boseburg, untouched by even a whiff of impeachment 554 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: proceedings in Congress, trying to facilitate the return of more 555 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:49,160 Speaker 1: than one hundred illegal Venezuelans removed under the Alien Enemies 556 00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:53,520 Speaker 1: Act in alleged defiance of his infametor, Boseburg continues his 557 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 1: unhinged and dangerous crusade to bring back the men tied 558 00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:03,880 Speaker 1: to trend Rodwood, I said, a multinational criminal gang enterprise 559 00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:11,960 Speaker 1: responsible for many violent crimes in this country. It just 560 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: going back to the intro to this segment. Federal District 561 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,319 Speaker 1: court judges are incredibly powerful individuals, and the only way 562 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: to rein them in would be for I mean, the 563 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: President's done what he has the power to do under 564 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: the Alien Enemies Act, and that case will eventually make 565 00:36:31,320 --> 00:36:35,319 Speaker 1: it to the Supreme Court. But even a whiff of 566 00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 1: even a potential impeachment hearing, of course, is going to 567 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,960 Speaker 1: cause him to, I think, double down even further because 568 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: he sees that as a threat to his power. But 569 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,480 Speaker 1: it might cause him to lay awake at night and 570 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:53,720 Speaker 1: at least think twice about what he's doing. The Fifth 571 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: Circuit they did that on an in a two to 572 00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 1: one decision, said no bonds required, No you can deter them, 573 00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:04,160 Speaker 1: you can deport them. Supreme Court said that we just 574 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:06,080 Speaker 1: had to wait for these cases to get to the 575 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: Supreme Court.