1 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:14,120 Speaker 1: This is you're celebrating the second greatest baseball movie ever made, Leader. 2 00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:18,680 Speaker 2: Fan Fan Radio Network, Pretty Good and k fa N 3 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:23,360 Speaker 2: dot com. Two minutes and one second past three o'clock 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Central daylight time, we welcome you back to a Tuesday 5 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,840 Speaker 2: edition of The Afternoon Vark. 6 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 3: My name is Dan Barrero. 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: I am the host of the program, also known as 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:38,640 Speaker 2: the A Hole in the Afternoon affectionately. I'm sure Guardsy 9 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:41,879 Speaker 2: is the two times state high school tennis champion, producer 10 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: of the show, and known as the Tasteless, Tasteless Vox 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: of mashed potatoes. That's the most updated form. Yeah, your 12 00:00:51,080 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 2: various nicknames. 13 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 3: Is that correct? 14 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 2: According to the Common Man program, Yes, which is nice. 15 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,400 Speaker 2: I'll take it interest. You got to reinvent yourself, very 16 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: very interest. We're delighted you are along for today's ride. 17 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 2: It could get bumpy today. There might be some turbulence 18 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: between now and six thirty this evening. We are going 19 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: to the distance today. That is confirmed. Yes, three until 20 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:15,679 Speaker 2: six thirty. We got Winnsota Wild Hockey. Later on the 21 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 2: Fan against the Cracking the Seattle, the Hated Seattle. 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 3: Cracking yup Grand Casino Arena. That's it. 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 2: One of my favorite, one of your favorite nicknames. I 24 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 2: know you are a big cracking guy. It's different. It 25 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,160 Speaker 2: is like it I've got a good pregame ceremony. Do 26 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 2: you know what it means? 27 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:30,680 Speaker 3: Do you know what it means? 28 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 2: Cracking? 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 3: It's like a mythic goal. That's right, Simons, That's what 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: it was. Yeah, that's it. 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,679 Speaker 2: Because there's a lot of water in Seattle, is that right? 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 2: A lot of water? Yeah, So what's in the water. 33 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,039 Speaker 2: Nobody knows except maybe the craw Absolutely no idea. We'll 34 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 2: give you details on the uglydeck dot com guest lineup 35 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: in just a minute or two. First guest schedule for 36 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:55,559 Speaker 2: four oh two. Second guest scheduled for five thirty, although 37 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 2: things can are always fluid here on the A Bumper 38 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 2: to Bumper Afternoon our program bratchewn Brian Caffey and text 39 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 2: line rebooted and it is available to you at six 40 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 2: four six eighty six. That's six four six eight six 41 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:18,240 Speaker 2: fifty years ago today. The motion picture I call the 42 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 2: second greatest greatest baseball movie ever made was released on 43 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 2: this date fifty years ago. So that would be, if 44 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 2: I'm doing my math right, nineteen seventy six. Yeah, what's 45 00:02:31,919 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 2: the date is today? The April eighth, seventh, the April seventh, 46 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:39,920 Speaker 2: nineteen seventy six, the second greatest baseball movie ever made 47 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,600 Speaker 2: came out, and, by the way, the interesting thing, while 48 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: among the interesting things about the film, it was a 49 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:52,920 Speaker 2: massive surprise box office hit. I think it grossed and 50 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:55,639 Speaker 2: for the time, this was big money. Obviously we're in 51 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 2: days of inflation. I think it grossed over like forty 52 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:05,600 Speaker 2: two million bucks, cost almost nothing to make, and it 53 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 2: became one of the top grossing motion pictures of that 54 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 2: year in nineteen seventy six, ranking tenth or eleventh overall 55 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 2: for the year as well. Now, for the record, in 56 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:22,519 Speaker 2: my own humble opinion, my favorite, I think the I 57 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: won't call it my favorite. I'd say the greatest baseball 58 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 2: movie ever made is The Natural. 59 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 3: I'm on record on that. 60 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:32,200 Speaker 2: I know it's a very subjective opinion, and that's all 61 00:03:32,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 2: this is. These are a series of opinions. For sure, 62 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: I put The Natural a very polarizing film because it 63 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:42,839 Speaker 2: was so different from the of the book upon which 64 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 2: it was based. But I put The Natural number one, 65 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: but number two on my baseball list, And there are 66 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 2: days I'm tempted to make it. Number one is a 67 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 2: motion picture called The Bad News Bears. Fifty years ago today. 68 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: That film, the original, I should say, the original Bad 69 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 2: News Bears came out. 70 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 3: It centers for the kids, if they don't know it. 71 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:21,360 Speaker 2: Around a hard drinking ex baseball pitcher named Morris Buttermaker, 72 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: played impeccably beautifully by the late great Walter Mathow, and 73 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 2: he becomes he gets bribed basically to become a coach 74 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 2: for a. 75 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 3: How do I put it, inept. 76 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:48,320 Speaker 2: Hopeless little league baseball team known as the Bears. The 77 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 2: cast in addition to Mathou or Mathow, you say Tomato, 78 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 2: I say tomato, Tatum O'Neil Vic Morrow Vic Morrow, by 79 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 2: the way, died horribly well, another motion picture was being made. 80 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:09,800 Speaker 2: In the making of a motion picture. I think we've 81 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: talked about that before Twilight Zone. 82 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 3: That's it. Yep. It was a helicopter scene. 83 00:05:13,640 --> 00:05:16,839 Speaker 2: As I recall, it was Joyce Van Patten, Ben Piazza 84 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 2: and many many others. What makes The Bad News Bears 85 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 2: worthy of this kind of celebration fifty years later, at 86 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: least on this program. Well, first of all, you have 87 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: to see it. It the beauty of Bad News Bears, 88 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:40,480 Speaker 2: and you kind of have to be a cynic, I 89 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,400 Speaker 2: think to enjoy it is that it turns so many 90 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: sports movie conventions on their ears. Just comes at it 91 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 2: about as at least through much of the film as unsentimental, 92 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 2: and you could argue real as a sports movie can. 93 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 2: Indeed be it lays it all out there in ways 94 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 2: that I don't think had ever been done before. Most 95 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 2: sports movies were played pretty straight. There are a couple 96 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 2: of exceptions afterwards, maybe inspired by this film. Before them, 97 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,800 Speaker 2: then most of them were played pretty straight and pretty sentimentally, 98 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 2: and here it goes a completely different way. 99 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 3: I mean, start with the obvious. 100 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:35,279 Speaker 2: You have a coach who has a cooler in the 101 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:41,440 Speaker 2: dugout filled with beer, not something that ordinarily would be endorsed, 102 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 2: even in nineteen seventy six, you'd be of course canceled, yeah, 103 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 2: for doing something like that in the year twenty twenty six. Correct, 104 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 2: that's a safe sport violation. You have to fill out 105 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,600 Speaker 2: your safe sports certification. That would be a safe sport violation. 106 00:06:55,800 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: I think yes, I think you're probably right about that. 107 00:06:59,800 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 2: And like, if you want to compare it to a 108 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 2: more recent film, even though I think this one's better, 109 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 2: it's got a little Bad Santa in it. 110 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:15,239 Speaker 3: In that Bad Santa. 111 00:07:14,880 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 2: Is about as over the line, over the top, politically incorrect, 112 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,440 Speaker 2: a vicious, unsentimental film through much of it as one 113 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: can imagine, but ultimately becomes what kind of sentimental The curmudgeonly, 114 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:36,960 Speaker 2: crotchety guy ends up being overcome with sentiment that becomes 115 00:07:37,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: part of the beauty of the story. 116 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: Same takes place well before. 117 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: Bad Santa in in Bad News Bears, because it's clear 118 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: early that Walter Matthew is just that. Buttermaker is a paycheck. 119 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:53,680 Speaker 2: You know, I'll put these players through their paces. I'll 120 00:07:53,720 --> 00:07:55,640 Speaker 2: sit in the dugout and we'll get our asses kicked. 121 00:07:55,680 --> 00:08:03,040 Speaker 2: In fact, I think in their in their first game, 122 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 2: they gave up twenty six runs without recording an outs. 123 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:11,679 Speaker 3: That's bad. 124 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: Twenty six runs without even getting a single retiring a 125 00:08:15,840 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 2: single batter of the other team. And you could they're 126 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: all misfits, all different shapes, sizes, races, the whole bit. 127 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: It's it's just a they're a complete blocking disaster. But 128 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 2: somewhere along the line, Buttermaker says to himself, you know, 129 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 2: how about we make this more interesting for me at 130 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,199 Speaker 2: least and maybe for the players. I'm gonna go out 131 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 2: and add a couple of ringers. So he goes out 132 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,319 Speaker 2: to add a couple of players, one of them a male, 133 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 2: a teenage kid who's a hoodlum the link when he's 134 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 2: got all kinds of issues, but he can play. And 135 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: then he also goes out and finds a girl pitcher, 136 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: Amanda Wurlitzer, the eleven year old daughter of Buttermaker's former girlfriend, 137 00:09:07,640 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 2: who's got a fastball like you've never seen before. 138 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: And he adds them to the mix. 139 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 2: And slowly but surely he actually starts working on. 140 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: Drills with the rest of them. 141 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: These misfits, they start paying attention to the fundamentals, and 142 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:32,760 Speaker 2: little by little by little, they end up surprising the surprise. 143 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 2: I think they're the name of the teams that Chico's 144 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 2: Bail Bonds. I think that was the sponsor, Chico's Bail Bonds, 145 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 2: which is perfect for the story, and they end up 146 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 2: shocking the Little League world. Now I'm not going to 147 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 2: give away the ending because I don't want to spoil it, 148 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,360 Speaker 2: because there is I think a method to the ending, 149 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:56,599 Speaker 2: a message to the ending as well. But part of 150 00:09:56,640 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: the delight of the film is watching all the ute 151 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 2: unquote proper little league types, you know, the authoritarian little 152 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: league types, losing their minds. Oh the way this team, 153 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 2: little by little ends up insinuating itself into the conversation 154 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:19,679 Speaker 2: to win the little league title. They're disruptors. They're disruptors. 155 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 2: And the level of aggravation, the aggravation on the faces 156 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: of the more traditional baseball coach and parents, et cetera, 157 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:34,760 Speaker 2: the level of being horrified by some of the things 158 00:10:34,760 --> 00:10:40,040 Speaker 2: that the players these kids do or say. Absolutely a 159 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:44,520 Speaker 2: classic motion picture. And I put it second, as I said, 160 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,839 Speaker 2: because it's so unconventional. 161 00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 3: And I know there have been other. 162 00:10:49,640 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 2: Unconventional baseball movies, but guess what they all came later. 163 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 2: This started the genre. And I also think what makes 164 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 2: it related well is the little league part. 165 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 3: Right, it's not a major league baseball story. 166 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 2: It's a literally everybody can relate to the little league, right, 167 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: either played the little league, or you have got friends who 168 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 2: were in little everybody, you know, because everybody's in little league, right, 169 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: it's supposed to be more democratic, at least to a point. 170 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 3: So I celebrate the fifty year. 171 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: Well anniversary, like I said, came out fifty years ago 172 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: today and did very very well, extremely well in the theaters. 173 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 2: There's aspects of this film. Like I said, I'm not 174 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: even sure it would be made the same way. And 175 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 2: it did get remade, yeah, did it not? 176 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah? I don't remember when, but I don't know if 177 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 3: I saw it. 178 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: And then there were a couple of sequels with some 179 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: of the same people, and was I think, wasn't that 180 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 2: The Bad News Bears Go to Japan. 181 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:46,880 Speaker 3: I don't think I ever saw it. 182 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 2: I didn't see that one, and there may have been 183 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 2: one other sequel as well, and then I think it 184 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,240 Speaker 2: got remade. But this film, I'm telling you and I 185 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it in a while. The old question 186 00:11:56,640 --> 00:12:01,000 Speaker 2: of would it hold up, but for the the sub 187 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: themes involved in it, I think it might. And it all, 188 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: let's face it, you have to have somebody as authoritative. 189 00:12:11,640 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: When I say are authoritative, I mean as genuine in 190 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 2: his curmudgeon leliness. That's the word as Walter Mathow, I 191 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:24,319 Speaker 2: mean that's literally. The casting there might have it might 192 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 2: have been what made the movie. It might not have 193 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 2: been my second favorite baseball movie of all time without 194 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 2: somebody that brilliant, whoever made that choice, whoever made that decision, 195 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 2: the director, the producer, whoever it was, if I hope 196 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 2: they demanded it's Walter Mathow or nobody, because this role 197 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 2: was made. 198 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 3: Walter Mathow was born to play this role. 199 00:12:48,960 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 2: And really played that role continuously for the thirty ish 200 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 2: well twenty five years the rest of his life, whether 201 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 2: it was Grumpy Old Men or there's another movie he 202 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 2: was in with a Jack Lemon where he was a 203 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 2: curmudgeon like that was just it's kind of like Larry 204 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 2: David always plays Larry David, correct, right, it's just his 205 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 2: personality too, he is. It feels like it's just the 206 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 2: roles he was born to play. Were these curmudgeonly ones. 207 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, there's no question. 208 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 2: I don't know if it started with Bad News Bears, 209 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 2: but it's obviously one of the most famous ones. 210 00:13:18,600 --> 00:13:20,719 Speaker 3: There's no question about that as well. 211 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 2: So Bradshaw and Brian Kafe in text Line is Open 212 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: at six four six eight six, A couple of people 213 00:13:29,559 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 2: are saying, look, you can spoil an ending of a 214 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 2: film that's fifty years old. You'd be surprised what pushback 215 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 2: we get. Yeah, we don't want to dine down this 216 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: before and I don't even know that it's necessary. I 217 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,199 Speaker 2: think it's actually better if it's left a little bit 218 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:45,680 Speaker 2: on the open ended side as as well. I mentioned 219 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 2: an outstanding guest lineup. Let's get a first break in. 220 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 2: Now we'll set up the rest of the program, which 221 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 2: will be a combo platter show today, definitely toy department stuff, 222 00:13:55,880 --> 00:13:58,840 Speaker 2: some pop culture stuff, and most assuredly a section stuff 223 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:17,880 Speaker 2: as well. Stake a lot of good texts coming into 224 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: the Brats Shaw Brian Kafan text line, including this one. 225 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: Billy Bob Thornton was the coach in the remake, also 226 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:27,360 Speaker 2: obviously the main star in Bad Santa, which we compared 227 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,360 Speaker 2: to Bad News Bears, which might explain the parallels between 228 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,680 Speaker 2: the two movies. Remake was made in two thousand and 229 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 2: five and is actually decent, follows the same storyline. I 230 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 2: don't think I've ever seen it, but I'll take off 231 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 2: that individual's word for it. Are we sure Bad News 232 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,440 Speaker 2: Bears isn't Dan's second favorite baseball movie because they only 233 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 2: had hot dogs and popcorn at the concession stand. Wouldn't 234 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 2: want too many options at a ball game. That's a 235 00:14:50,560 --> 00:14:53,960 Speaker 2: throwback to a subject I explored on Sunday Sermons, a 236 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 2: very controversial edition of the program in which I asked, 237 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 2: I know, you know the we're never going back. The 238 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 2: genie is definitely out of the bottle on this. But 239 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 2: I asked why we needed to go to a ball 240 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: game every form of exotic food? Now, what is it 241 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 2: that's changed about us? When once upon a time it 242 00:15:16,680 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: was enough to go to the concession stand, get a dog, 243 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 2: maybe get some cracker jacks, get a beer, get a 244 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: diet coke, occasionally a burger, maybe a kilbasa. That was it. 245 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 2: And now every year what do we have to do? 246 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: We have to introduce eighteen thousand new foods? Yep, we 247 00:15:38,440 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: buy off the local media before Fisher camera, Yeah, exactly. 248 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: So I don't know that that's the callback there. I 249 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 2: don't want to go too deep into that. Five to 250 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 2: seven four guy rights, five to seven four guy rights. 251 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: The movie holds up. I coached Little. 252 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: League and travel teams involving my three sons for sixteen years. 253 00:15:58,120 --> 00:16:02,360 Speaker 2: It became ritual to kick each season off with a 254 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 2: Bad News Bears screening for the record two sequels, The 255 00:16:08,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: Bad News Bears in Breaking Training that was in nineteen 256 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 2: seventy seven and The Bad News Bears Go to Japan 257 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 2: in seventy eight, there was a short lived CBS TV series. 258 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 2: That's right, there has to be in the seventy nine 259 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: to nineteen eighty as well. I mentioned in the late 260 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,640 Speaker 2: great Vic Morrow, who was brilliant in the film. He 261 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: plays the role of Roy Turner, the coach of the 262 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: hated Yankees, the buttoned up team with the star players, 263 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 2: the team that is made to win championships. And I 264 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 2: will say that another brilliant aspect of this film is 265 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 2: that it predicted in nineteen seventy six. 266 00:16:57,440 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: It predicted exactly. 267 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 2: Why we have parents texting us or coaches and managers 268 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 2: texting us almost every day when this particular subject comes up. 269 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 2: It predicted the insanity of at the little league level, 270 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: certainly some coaches and managers being so over the top 271 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,480 Speaker 2: pretending they are a major league managers, yeah, that they 272 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 2: end up facing rebellion from their own players on occasion. 273 00:17:29,160 --> 00:17:34,479 Speaker 2: They're so over the top in their discipline and in 274 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:39,640 Speaker 2: their lecturing. And so one of the subplots is Vic 275 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: Morrow's kid, the characters of Roy Turner. So, coach Turner's 276 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: kid is a very good pitcher for his team, and 277 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:52,679 Speaker 2: one of the subplots of the film is he gets 278 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 2: so sick of the browbeating from his own dad, that 279 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: he starts intentionally walking hitters against the Bad News Bears right, 280 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 2: which is part of the reason the Bears are able 281 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:10,440 Speaker 2: to come back in the so called championship game. As well, 282 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 2: that the kid is is is pleading in a sense, 283 00:18:14,240 --> 00:18:18,320 Speaker 2: it's his form of protest. Right, Get off me, man, childhood. 284 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,959 Speaker 2: I just I want to live for a couple minutes. 285 00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 2: You're not the manager of the New York Yankees. You're 286 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 2: the manager of the local Little League Yankees team. And 287 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:33,639 Speaker 2: we've been talking about that issue for decades upon decades 288 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 2: ever since. 289 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:35,080 Speaker 3: Correct we have. 290 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 2: I like that fifty years later, you can use the 291 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 2: Bad News Bears as a reference and everybody knows what 292 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 2: it means. You can say you're playing the Bad News Bears. 293 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: They played like the Bad News Bears. I also like 294 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: that the template for the movie has been Obviously it's 295 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:54,879 Speaker 2: been duplicated because they made a remake and they've made sequels. 296 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 2: But it follows. The Mighty Ducks follows that track. Emilio 297 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: stevesk Orton Bombay gets in trouble drinking and driving. What's 298 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: he have to do? He's got a coach, a ragtag 299 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:08,560 Speaker 2: bunch of kids against the hated hawks from District five, 300 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,120 Speaker 2: the cake Eaters, and Adam Banks is part of that team. 301 00:19:12,160 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 2: Then guess what redistricting? Adam Banks has to come over 302 00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 2: to their team. How does the movie end? Spoiler alert, 303 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 2: not going to tell you what's another one? Kicking and 304 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 2: screaming Will Ferrell Mike Ditka. Will Farrell's got a coach, 305 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 2: a ragtag bunch, and he learns life lessons along the way. 306 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 2: It's a good template. I don't know if it was 307 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,840 Speaker 2: done before The Bad News Bears. You could tell me 308 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: maybe if there were some before that, but it's a 309 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: good it's a good template that's been recreated in multiple sports. 310 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,160 Speaker 2: I believe it started that genre. I mean, I really do. 311 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 2: What's the the politically incorrect hockey film that the State 312 00:19:45,320 --> 00:19:48,760 Speaker 2: of Hockey loves starring Paul Newman? Oh yeah, this is 313 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,720 Speaker 2: where I'm turning into you and you are turning into me. 314 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Slap shot, slap shot? Slap shot came after? 315 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 2: Did it not double check the year of slap shot? 316 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 2: But I would say, and that was about obviously, uh 317 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 2: you know, uh in Little League right came the next year. Okay, 318 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 2: But I think it's in that same irreverent genre of 319 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: We're gonna turn all these conventions on their head, and 320 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:15,639 Speaker 2: it's gonna be surly at times. It's gonna be it's 321 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:18,320 Speaker 2: gonna be funny, but it's not gonna be what we 322 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:22,520 Speaker 2: grew up with when it comes to sports films. I 323 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 2: mean I I I I grew up with these films 324 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 2: were made. I'm old, but I'm not as old as 325 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: a movie like Pride of the Yankees, which was the 326 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:34,480 Speaker 2: story of lou Gerig. But that was the way those 327 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:37,120 Speaker 2: movies were done back then, and it was straight man. 328 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: It was played sentimentally start to finish. There were no 329 00:20:43,000 --> 00:20:46,399 Speaker 2: real rough edges even allowed, right, It just it just 330 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 2: wasn't a part of it. Bad News Bears represents the 331 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 2: rough edge motion picture not only being allowed, but being 332 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: allowed to flourish, like, no, we're gonna we're gonna have 333 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,120 Speaker 2: not just have one or two rough edges, We're gonna 334 00:21:01,119 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 2: have an endless array of rough edges. And it opened 335 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 2: up a lot of later later movies that indeed went 336 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: down that same road. But I think it actually started 337 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:10,520 Speaker 2: with Bad News Bears. 338 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:11,439 Speaker 3: I really do. 339 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 2: A couple more texts. We've already got texts. I should 340 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 2: mention Louis is going to join us usual time at 341 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: five point thirty this evening. 342 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:21,920 Speaker 3: In about a half hour. 343 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:26,880 Speaker 2: We'll check in with our favorite counter terror big knocker, 344 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:32,120 Speaker 2: Michael Hurley. There's a lot to get to with him. 345 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:37,400 Speaker 2: By now, most of you probably know the I guess 346 00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: I gotta narrow it down because pretty much every you know, 347 00:21:41,680 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 2: true social comment from the president can be as over 348 00:21:45,720 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 2: the top as the last one. But right now we're 349 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 2: allegedly on an Iran deadline. 350 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:52,400 Speaker 3: Right that. 351 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:57,959 Speaker 2: Is it eight eastern so seven o'clock Central time. And 352 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 2: this was what the pre sent out this morning. A 353 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 2: whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. 354 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 3: I don't want that to happen. 355 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:10,159 Speaker 2: It probably will, however, now that we have complete and 356 00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 2: total regime change. That's his way of saying that, Well, 357 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 2: we said we changed the regime, and we did, even 358 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 2: though really the regime in place now is acting no 359 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: differently than the one that he apparently says he knocked out. 360 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:30,400 Speaker 2: Who knows, we'll find out tonight whether something revolutionarily wonderful 361 00:22:30,440 --> 00:22:33,399 Speaker 2: can happen. One of the most important moments in the 362 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,400 Speaker 2: long and complex history of the world, forty seven years 363 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 2: of extortion, corruption and death will finally end. God bless 364 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:43,440 Speaker 2: the great people of Iran. So we're playing the usual 365 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:47,280 Speaker 2: game with the man in the White House. 366 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 3: It's well, does he mean it? Does he really mean it? 367 00:22:51,840 --> 00:22:52,879 Speaker 3: Does he kind of mean it? 368 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 2: Or in his world? Remember he he grew up on 369 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:07,879 Speaker 2: TV as a TV host blathering that a series of 370 00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: negotiations where it was I'll say anything in order to 371 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 2: get what I want. Might he mean it? By the way, 372 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: among those who've noticed the most recent rhetoric, the Pope 373 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 2: has indeed fired back at him. I wait, has he 374 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: ripped the pope yet? Has he responded by ripping the 375 00:23:25,880 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 2: pope yet? It's a matter of time. I don't know 376 00:23:28,359 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 2: if I've seen it. So we'll have early on at 377 00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: four to see how he is analyzing this, if the 378 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 2: deadline's real, what it means, Because there's also a comment 379 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: from the President regarding what I think he described as 380 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:50,160 Speaker 2: heated negotiations going on with Iran right now. My prediction 381 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:56,200 Speaker 2: is that the deadline will be will be extended, or 382 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 2: there will be something of a Anoun's been having to 383 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: do with some sort of agreement. But with this guy, 384 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 2: it's very hard to know exactly what he means. And 385 00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 2: that's why we want people who have been who've kind 386 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:14,159 Speaker 2: of had to deal not necessarily with him, but with 387 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 2: geopolitics and American history, world history, et cetera. And Michael 388 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 2: Hurley has been very good in that regard sort of translating. 389 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,200 Speaker 2: So he is scheduled for four h two today. Those 390 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:30,919 Speaker 2: are the only two scheduled guests that we have for 391 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 2: the moment, although that could change. So yeah, it's a 392 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 2: seven pm Central a pm Eastern time. A deadline regarding 393 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,800 Speaker 2: the whatever deal is apparently going to have to be 394 00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 2: struck because remember remember that was it two days ago 395 00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:54,120 Speaker 2: he said this, Remember it was the straight of horror 396 00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: move I don't even care about it, and the straight 397 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 2: of horror moves if other countries, European countries where about, 398 00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 2: they can take care of it and or it'll just 399 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,119 Speaker 2: open up naturally, remember that, which would seem to indicate 400 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,560 Speaker 2: he don't really give a damn Well. Now again, because 401 00:25:07,920 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 2: he never repeats the same thing twice, it's apparently essential 402 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,640 Speaker 2: to this deal that the state of horror moves has 403 00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 2: to be opened up, right, has to be reopened and 404 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:20,679 Speaker 2: believe yeah, that was the. 405 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 3: That was the East. That was the East. 406 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:31,640 Speaker 2: There's no question about about that for sure. So we'll 407 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 2: have him on like I said, at four o'clock and 408 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: keep an eye on pretty much all of that. Let's 409 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 2: get to bottom of the hour break Bradshaw and Brian Caffein. 410 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:44,399 Speaker 2: Text line is open and will always be open, I 411 00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:47,120 Speaker 2: hope at six four six eighty six, unless I. 412 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 3: Have to reboot it as well. 413 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:50,159 Speaker 2: A lot of good texts are coming in on a 414 00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: number of subjects, and it'll be, as I said, a 415 00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 2: mix and match day between the Toy Department and the 416 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: UH and the real world as well a section as 417 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: we call it on the program. 418 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 3: All right, we are back. 419 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:43,840 Speaker 2: A good correction by from lawyer Tom regarding some of 420 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: the details from the motion picture Bad News Bears. He 421 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:54,639 Speaker 2: writes that the bad guy over the top manager played 422 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: by the late grade Vic Morrow Roy Turner, actually hits 423 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 2: his kid on the mount and he's right, I do 424 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: remember that now. 425 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: I mean there was. 426 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,120 Speaker 2: A series of there was all sorts of browbeating throughout, 427 00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 2: but it was actual physical contact with his kid on 428 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 2: the mound. When he denied throwing at Engelbert and. 429 00:27:17,680 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 3: He didn't. 430 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: It wasn't that he walked players intentionally. It was he 431 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:28,440 Speaker 2: fields a ball and just stays on the mound and 432 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 2: holds it while people bad news bearers keep advancing in 433 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: the base runners on the bass paths, and he would 434 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 2: will not allow he won't throw it to first, and 435 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 2: he won't let any teammates take the ball from him. 436 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: That was his form of bleep you, in this case 437 00:27:49,720 --> 00:27:52,479 Speaker 2: to his own father, and that's what led to what 438 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,000 Speaker 2: was ultimately the Miracle Comeback. 439 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,280 Speaker 3: That even the Miracle Comeback. 440 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 2: Has a twist which I will leave to the imagination 441 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: just in case you might want to rent the film 442 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 2: tonight or someplace you know, at a later date as well, 443 00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:14,919 Speaker 2: So I'll leave that part of it open. Dan, I 444 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520 Speaker 2: was playing park board baseball when that movie came out. 445 00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:19,040 Speaker 2: We all loved that. You may Remearther, the actor who 446 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,440 Speaker 2: played Kelly the ringer j D on the Dirt Bike, 447 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: also appeared a few years later in another film. You've 448 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 2: expressed fondness for Breaking Away as one of the cutters. 449 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 3: That is a good and breaking Away I would. 450 00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:34,000 Speaker 2: Put under the classification of the most underrated sports movie 451 00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 2: of all time. If you classify a biking movie by 452 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: school race movie as a sports movie, and in this case, 453 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:45,040 Speaker 2: I would even though there's a lot more to it. 454 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:48,120 Speaker 2: It's called Breaking Away, starring, among others, a very very 455 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 2: young I believe Dennis Quaid was in that film as 456 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: as well. Chris Wrtes, you really can't make it up 457 00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 2: as far as Righty's smugly lecturing liberals that we needed 458 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 2: to grow up and vote for Trump because it would 459 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 2: keep costing line lower gas price to keep us out 460 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 2: of feign words, et cetera. Despite the mean tweets, it's 461 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 2: like we're in a Twilight Zone episode. Kimani's son, who 462 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: looks just like him, took over and they have not 463 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 2: missed a beat. Well again, the the the difficult part, 464 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 2: I think regarding the approach that's been taken here is 465 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: the degree to which, and I think he excuses it 466 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 2: on the basis of, well, this is how I negotiate, 467 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: but the degree to which every press conference that he 468 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 2: does can sometimes be a literal one and eighty degrees 469 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: different from what he had said previously, and so it's 470 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 2: sort of you are sort of left with the I'm 471 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: left with the impression that he is literally making it 472 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 2: up as he goes, you know, it's it's I just 473 00:30:01,320 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: I'll wake up and feel a certain way. The next 474 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 2: day I might feel differently and I'll go a different way. 475 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: And the pathetic part is the people who defend him 476 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 2: want to believe that he's in complete control of it, 477 00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:20,040 Speaker 2: and he's not. He's making it up as he goes along. 478 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,440 Speaker 2: Now might he blunder into some kind of a success 479 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 2: in the end, I don't know. I don't know how 480 00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: you define success at this at this point, but I 481 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 2: don't think he has any control over any of it, 482 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: do you? 483 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 3: I just don't. 484 00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:39,200 Speaker 2: And I'll again, we'll talk to early about this at 485 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 2: at four h two, so we'll see. I had a 486 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 2: while back in action tonight correct, Yes, and then the 487 00:30:49,040 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 2: big showdown game with the Stars is Thursday, Yes, eight 488 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: o'clock in Dallas. That could be for all the mark 489 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:57,080 Speaker 2: But in the meantime, we got to keep winning. Yeah, 490 00:30:57,160 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 2: So we need to win against the Krack And are 491 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 2: we and if we played the same number of games 492 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,200 Speaker 2: as the Stars at this point or does either team 493 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 2: have a game in hand as of right now we 494 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 2: have both played seventy seven games, so we're down to five. Yes, 495 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 2: And the Wolves are in action tonight against the Pacers. Yes, 496 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: we have four games left. Yes, let me double check. No, 497 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 2: Anthony Edwards tonight. 498 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 3: He is out again. 499 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,960 Speaker 2: I forgot to mention that yesterday you had passed that 500 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: along to me, that Edwards is still out. And what 501 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 2: does that tell you at this point? It tells you. 502 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: I don't think the Wolves are playing it too cute. 503 00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 2: I think what it tells me is he's not ready 504 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 2: to play. And even if now there might be something 505 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 2: at stake here, that being making sure you don't somehow 506 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 2: fall to seven, because mathematically it's unlikely, but still a possibility. 507 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: As crazy as that sounds, at this point, I think 508 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: if he could play, they'd play him. They'd want to 509 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,480 Speaker 2: just let's end this, let's end it. Yeah, but I 510 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,600 Speaker 2: don't What it tells me is he's not ready to play, 511 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 2: and that is that's a very concerning aspect of this. 512 00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,040 Speaker 2: I don't think there'll being arrogant and cocky like, well'll 513 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 2: be fine, We'll just get to the postseason wherever we are, 514 00:32:10,160 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 2: because they're reeling right now. They need they are, they 515 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 2: exactly need him. Uh, this is four games left, four 516 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 2: games left, That's what I thought. Houston all in the 517 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:22,720 Speaker 2: row on the road and then on Sunday the Garnett game. 518 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,880 Speaker 2: Is Garnett gonna suit up? Could game? I don't think 519 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 2: that's legal, but it'd be a fun. 520 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 3: It would be nice to be a fun. It'd be cool. 521 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 3: Will Jigglely Boy be back for that one? You wonder, 522 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 3: don't you? Yeah? 523 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: Because that's when he tends to appear. But that was 524 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 2: that was a long time. It feels like a different era, 525 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,840 Speaker 2: doesn't it. It was it was years ago. 526 00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:42,200 Speaker 3: That's very true. 527 00:32:42,400 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 2: Uh Lawyer Tom, the same guy who had those those 528 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:49,800 Speaker 2: important corrections. Uh Taco Trump always chickens out. He'll claim 529 00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,720 Speaker 2: he'll get some concession, which won't be opening the straight 530 00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:54,840 Speaker 2: in full, but probably something well short of it, claim 531 00:32:54,920 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 2: victory and then think he's saw this colossal mess in 532 00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,480 Speaker 2: this case? 533 00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 3: Don't we all hope he does? Checking out though? 534 00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:04,280 Speaker 2: I that's the irony of this is do we really 535 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 2: want to go down the road that he's suggesting that 536 00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:11,880 Speaker 2: to go down to try to wipe out a country 537 00:33:12,120 --> 00:33:14,600 Speaker 2: in effect, not just the leadership of a country, but 538 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 2: a country. I would not be in that category. Maybe 539 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,440 Speaker 2: there are people out there who say, well, once and 540 00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,720 Speaker 2: for all, this is what we have to do, But 541 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:29,280 Speaker 2: I don't even know what high ground we have left. 542 00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:30,800 Speaker 2: But if we have any high ground left, I think 543 00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: it would probably be lost. 544 00:33:32,040 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 3: At that point. 545 00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,800 Speaker 2: Could the Wolves catch La, who's got the tie breaker? 546 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,240 Speaker 2: Or no, we can't catch I guess you could say 547 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 2: now that La. The Lakers are reeling a little bit 548 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 2: because they're down their two best scorers. 549 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 3: Yep. And Lebron's not going to play tonight. 550 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 2: He's not going to play tonight. Yeah, he's not gonna 551 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 2: They have three games in four days. He's not going 552 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 2: to play tonight. So give us their record and ours 553 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,360 Speaker 2: the gap gap like three games. Yes, they are fifty, 554 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 2: it's actually four. They are fifty and twenty eight. 555 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,800 Speaker 3: So I don't Yeah, I don't even think. I don't 556 00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:06,160 Speaker 3: think we can catch Houston. Yeah, I don't either. At 557 00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,000 Speaker 3: this point we're three games behind them. Let's see what else. 558 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that ghost that ship has sailed. And 559 00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: I think you're basically just wanting to be damn sure 560 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: you don't find some absurd way to fall to seven, right, 561 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:24,359 Speaker 2: that's what you're trying to avoid here. That would be 562 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 2: that that would be catastrophic as far as I'm concerned. 563 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 2: If you were somehow to fall to seven and there's 564 00:34:30,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: still three games ahead of Phoenix. Yeah, magic number remains two. 565 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:35,840 Speaker 2: We could clinch the six spot as early as tonight 566 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 2: because Phoenix plays Houston, do they not? 567 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 3: Is that who Phoenix plays? Yes, they have the Rockets. 568 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 2: Tonight, they're in Phoenix, I think, yes, right, Yeah, and 569 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 2: they're pointing a half favorites. 570 00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:46,000 Speaker 3: I think I saw earlier. 571 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 2: Houston is on a hot streak now after having you know, 572 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 2: struggled for a while. I believe they've won six in 573 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,400 Speaker 2: a row, six in a row. So yeah, it could. 574 00:34:54,440 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 2: I mean, you could argue it should end tonight in 575 00:34:57,280 --> 00:34:59,520 Speaker 2: that the Wolves, if you know, if if you can't 576 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 2: beat the pay there, get out of you know, basically, 577 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 2: no one's gonna feel sorry for it. But on the 578 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: other hand, as we talked about yesterday, look at what 579 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,200 Speaker 2: the Pacers have done the last few games. Their records dreadful, 580 00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,719 Speaker 2: They want to lose, but they tend whoever they put 581 00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,960 Speaker 2: out there does tend to play. And they they knocked 582 00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,600 Speaker 2: off Miami not that long ago. I think they knocked 583 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 2: off There's two good teams they've beaten recently, or decent teams, 584 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: and so I don't think you can assume anything about tonight. 585 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,719 Speaker 2: I really don't, especially if they routed the Heat. It 586 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:36,480 Speaker 2: was the Heat and there was one other victory within 587 00:35:36,560 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 2: the last two weeks. I think the Magic the Magic, 588 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: and the Magic's not a great team, but they're not 589 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:46,239 Speaker 2: a horrible team, right right, So again we know how 590 00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:52,799 Speaker 2: fragile this particular group of players together have been. And 591 00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:55,880 Speaker 2: by the way, so we don't even get updates on 592 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,000 Speaker 2: on Jayden anymore, do we not? 593 00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 3: Really other than we think he's going to be ready 594 00:36:00,520 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 3: for the playoffs. 595 00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,759 Speaker 2: So it sounds more and more like he's just not 596 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 2: going to play the rest of the regular season. 597 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, in this case, that's kind of how I read it. 598 00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, and his is a knee yes, yeah, a different 599 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 2: knee injury or knee I get it with with Anthony, 600 00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 2: it's more a condition than it is an actual injury, correct, 601 00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 2: I think. So that is likened to the one that 602 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: has kept Steph Curry out for twenty seven games and 603 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 2: then he came back with a bang and they almost 604 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: stole victory over Houston. 605 00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:24,399 Speaker 3: Right. 606 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 2: Yes, you know the sneaky, most damning thing that Johnny 607 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 2: Athletics said yesterday regarding the game tonight. The teams that 608 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:36,279 Speaker 2: give the Wolves the most trouble are the teams that 609 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:41,200 Speaker 2: play hard, like it just rolled off his tongue. That's it, 610 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: And that's like so damning I feel like, and it's 611 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: not anybody that's watched it. We all understand it, we 612 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,160 Speaker 2: all see it, but it still doesn't make any sense. 613 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: Like the team look out. The teams that give the 614 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:55,400 Speaker 2: Wolves trouble are the ones that always play hard, that 615 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: just show up no matter who they have, and just play. 616 00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 2: I was in the building for the Obie Topping game 617 00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 2: last year, the Pacers game when he had twenty seven 618 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 2: points and hit the game winning three with like point 619 00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 2: zero seconds left, whatever it was. 620 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 3: That's what that's for. 621 00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 2: As much as you know I'm a Wolves guy and 622 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,919 Speaker 2: like watching the team and not completely done with them, 623 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: that one just that should stick with you if it 624 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,840 Speaker 2: it definitely stuck with me. Well, just the teams that 625 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 2: just show up and bring the lunch pail and are 626 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:26,560 Speaker 2: going to play give us trouble. And that's why again, 627 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 2: you can't take especially if we miss some shots and 628 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,600 Speaker 2: we start dragging a little bit and you start seeing 629 00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,399 Speaker 2: it on the faces of a couple of players and 630 00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 2: they know who they are, and suddenly you and you 631 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:46,000 Speaker 2: know again, the knas read thing. 632 00:37:47,000 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: I know he's a cult figure here. 633 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: He's a hero. And when he's going, he's been obviously 634 00:37:54,120 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: a terrific player. But I got to tell you, I 635 00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:01,399 Speaker 2: don't like his body language at all right now. Now 636 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 2: he might and he might not be healthy. I don't 637 00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 2: think there's any chance he's healthy, but his body language, 638 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,480 Speaker 2: that's for me. That's no excuse for the body. And 639 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: there what we said yesterday, there's still other things that 640 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:18,000 Speaker 2: you can do, and he's not He is a hindrance 641 00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 2: right now. He is not helping this team win. He 642 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,799 Speaker 2: is contributing to them losing at this point. And you know, 643 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,360 Speaker 2: maybe that kids turned around if he has two straight threes. 644 00:38:28,080 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. 645 00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 2: But there's other things I think that he needs to do. Meanwhile, 646 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:39,239 Speaker 2: your guy, my guy, Nikiel continues to the Hawks are 647 00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,320 Speaker 2: the team nobody wants to play in the Eastern Conference 648 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 2: right now, the Hawks and the Hornets. 649 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 3: And the Hornets, you have those two sneaky teams. 650 00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: Real quick, since we've got a little time, might as 651 00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:50,040 Speaker 2: well do a little bit more of a basketball round 652 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,440 Speaker 2: up as well. Michigan takes care of business. They win 653 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 2: the National Championship over Yukon. It ends up being a 654 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 2: more competitive game than at least some people had predicted. 655 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 3: Well, I think the spread was what six six and 656 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: a half? 657 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,600 Speaker 2: Six and a half and six, right, I think that's right. 658 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:09,520 Speaker 2: That's it. I don't know what we take out of it. 659 00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:13,920 Speaker 2: Like I know, probably if you're an Indiana fan like 660 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:16,399 Speaker 2: Rick Bose, that you're devastated because you you think, well, 661 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 2: that that guy should have been our coach because he 662 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: belongs to the Indiana University pedigree, and we the timing 663 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,400 Speaker 2: wasn't right, and so he goes to Michigan and by 664 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 2: the time we really want him, he says, I'm not 665 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 2: leaving Michigan at this point because I'm too entrenched. But 666 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,719 Speaker 2: is there a larger message, because I think, what is it? 667 00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: All five starters were transfers, yes, and I don't know. 668 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:42,879 Speaker 2: I mean, you can't have any more in your starting 669 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: lineup than five. You can have as few as four. 670 00:39:45,719 --> 00:39:48,440 Speaker 2: If you're Fred Hoiberer, have few Hoarhouskers, you could have fewer. 671 00:39:48,520 --> 00:39:48,719 Speaker 3: Yeah. 672 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 2: But what a lot of people are wondering is okay, 673 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,520 Speaker 2: is this just sort of ushering in the new age 674 00:39:54,520 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 2: of Aquarius. I don't think necessarily, so, I mean, we 675 00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: already know that transfer are a big part of it. 676 00:40:01,640 --> 00:40:04,600 Speaker 2: So whether it's three on your team or five, I 677 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:08,560 Speaker 2: guess maybe at fall, what it reinforces is that if 678 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,359 Speaker 2: you had romantic sentimental tendencies about how you watched your 679 00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:17,520 Speaker 2: college basketball and maybe even tried to invest over a 680 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 2: period of years with players that you got better over 681 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:25,799 Speaker 2: that time at the same institution, all that sentiment has 682 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:32,840 Speaker 2: been erased. That's over. And the truth is most coaches 683 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 2: have to go along with it, no matter what they 684 00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:37,840 Speaker 2: think of it. We're now in an era of you 685 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 2: gotta do what you got to do. But I do believe, 686 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,919 Speaker 2: and we talked about this with Richard Patino late last week, 687 00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,920 Speaker 2: that I don't know how you get to this place, 688 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 2: but to me, if you care about the health of 689 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:56,240 Speaker 2: the game, not necessarily the greatest freedom for every player, 690 00:40:56,680 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 2: but the health of the game, at some point, there 691 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 2: have to be rules in place that do not allow 692 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 2: you to literally change if you want to change institutions 693 00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 2: every year. Yeah, I believe the notion of you get 694 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 2: one freebie where you can be eligible immediately after that 695 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:21,959 Speaker 2: you can do it again, but you will have to sit. 696 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 2: I think that's the only way you discourage this a 697 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:29,439 Speaker 2: little bit or or slow the revolution and the other 698 00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:31,040 Speaker 2: thing that it's got to get cleaned up. And I 699 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,640 Speaker 2: don't even know how you begin to do it. You 700 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 2: can't stay in college for seven years anymore. We all 701 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,520 Speaker 2: know where it started. It was COVID related all that, 702 00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 2: But that has to be I don't know, is it 703 00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:42,279 Speaker 2: five years? 704 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: It has to be five and five, yes, give them 705 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: five years of eligibility. I'm with you. 706 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 2: And now again I'm not a lawyer, so I don't 707 00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:51,759 Speaker 2: know how difficult the legal challenge are going to be. 708 00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 3: But by God, hire good lawyers. 709 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 2: Then who will defend your position, because I think it's 710 00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 2: got to be a defensible position that we are going 711 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:04,279 Speaker 2: to have have agreed upon rules in place that we 712 00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 2: believe are for the good of the game to create, 713 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:10,480 Speaker 2: not the kind of stability. I know. 714 00:42:10,520 --> 00:42:11,960 Speaker 3: We're not going back to the old days. 715 00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:16,759 Speaker 2: We can't, but some middle ground that I think will 716 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,520 Speaker 2: will get us to a healthier place than we are now, 717 00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 2: because I just don't think the ratings are good and 718 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:24,640 Speaker 2: the basketball is good, yep, but I don't think there's 719 00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,160 Speaker 2: anything particularly healthy about what the way we're doing. I 720 00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:29,839 Speaker 2: do also wonder when the money is going to run out. 721 00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,120 Speaker 2: That's what feels unsustainable too, Yes, because I know that 722 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:36,960 Speaker 2: the power conferences are always going to have the media 723 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,880 Speaker 2: rights and the rev Share money, but the money on 724 00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 2: top of it, the nil money that collectives are doing now, yes, 725 00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 2: where they've been trying to get some guardrails on that. 726 00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 3: I still don't know how you figure that out. 727 00:42:47,320 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 2: But I'm just fascinated by how much longer individuals and 728 00:42:51,600 --> 00:42:53,600 Speaker 2: businesses are fine with, Yeah, we'll give you a couple 729 00:42:53,640 --> 00:42:55,440 Speaker 2: of meal, we'll give you this, we'll give you that. 730 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,120 Speaker 2: I mean, Troy Agnan even said he goes, I gave 731 00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 2: money to the UCLA so they could keep a quarterback and 732 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:01,440 Speaker 2: the guy left anyway, Like, I think at some point 733 00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 2: that has to burst. I agree now the rev share 734 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,480 Speaker 2: money will sill always be there, so there would be 735 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 2: a financial component about it. And I think personally, I 736 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 2: think the pushback on Michigan to me is funny because 737 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: all season people are going, Wow, best team money can buy. 738 00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:17,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, why wouldn't it be. 739 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 2: Good for them? Good for them, and credit to the 740 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 2: coach for finding the right guys and paying for them, obviously, 741 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,600 Speaker 2: but that's still exactly that's still no guarantee, so it 742 00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,120 Speaker 2: puts you in the ballpark obviously to get great players, 743 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:32,600 Speaker 2: which they did, but not. 744 00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 3: But it's weird that people are taking it like. 745 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: The last couple of weeks it's well, yeah, I mean 746 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 2: Michigan they just bought their team. Well, wouldn't you Like 747 00:43:41,320 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 2: I always say, it should feel like when Indiana won football. 748 00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 3: My thing. 749 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,279 Speaker 2: I just said this with Rosen earlier in the week. 750 00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,560 Speaker 2: If I was an athletic director or a booster or 751 00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 2: a fundraiser, I would say all bets are off now. 752 00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 2: Now Michigan had more pedigree obviously than Indiana. I think 753 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 2: it's one of those jobs you have to screw up 754 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 2: more than you know, you have to make something. But 755 00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 2: everybody should feel the opportunity if you're a college football program, 756 00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,239 Speaker 2: that you or any program, that you can go do this. 757 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 2: But the Michigan bitterness is curious to me because everybody's 758 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 2: taken transfers. They just happened to take a lot of them, 759 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:18,480 Speaker 2: and they took the right ones. And you know, what's 760 00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 2: the what's the what's the the proper number three? I mean, 761 00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 2: what's the difference. I mean, if you're in it, you're 762 00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 2: in it so as of an hour ago, there are 763 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 2: fifteen hundred men's basketball players in the transfer portal Wow 764 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 2: that officially opened at midnight. Bad This is from Chopper 765 00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:38,200 Speaker 2: Bad News Bears, which was originally rated G watched my 766 00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,600 Speaker 2: at my elementary school gymnasm over the summer, was bumped 767 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:45,040 Speaker 2: to a PG thirteen rating upon the review rating review 768 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,319 Speaker 2: process in the early two thousands. Jumped right over the 769 00:44:47,360 --> 00:44:51,399 Speaker 2: old PG. That's from Chopper. That's that does very sound 770 00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:55,000 Speaker 2: very familiar to me. Let's get to the A topic 771 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 2: from the A section with our good friend Michael Hurley, 772 00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:03,000 Speaker 2: former CIA officer worked on the nine to eleven commission 773 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,640 Speaker 2: as well as one of the chief attorneys there, has 774 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,440 Speaker 2: served the country in the Middle East as well. Always 775 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:16,800 Speaker 2: appreciate his authority and his analysis on days like these, 776 00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 2: which of course are very very tense involving the dire 777 00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:23,080 Speaker 2: warnings offered up by the President of the United States. 778 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: What do we make of them? What do we make 779 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 2: of the deadline? And maybe even we can talk a 780 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,280 Speaker 2: little bit about that successful rescue mission as well. Michael 781 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,719 Speaker 2: Hurley e Dinah's own next year in the FAMI