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Speaker 1: Bad command, common man, no show peple solid plan.

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Speaker 2: So they began a sec a.

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Speaker 1: Broach will fail. It's time for common.

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Speaker 3: Man, com man.

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Speaker 1: Common man, charge the house less like going can what

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Speaker 1: shoot word repy nonsense object to be to man? It's

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Speaker 1: time for common man.

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Speaker 4: Oh boy, why should anybody aspire to be a common man?

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Speaker 4: An average man? Do you realize what it means to

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Speaker 4: and the lousiest.

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Speaker 1: Of the best.

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Speaker 4: Now, if we demand more and more for producing less

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Speaker 4: and less while they have not, nations encourage and inspire,

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Speaker 4: and indeed require hard work and maximum effort. If we

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Speaker 4: deify the common man while they encourage and reward the

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Speaker 4: uncommon ones, well end result of such a lopsided race,

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Speaker 4: as that is too obvious to require elaboration.

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Speaker 5: I mean, it's like, hello, all.

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Speaker 2: I think I don't is a cold blooded connection.

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Speaker 1: Balm bomb.

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Speaker 6: We'll head to a buffalo down the road. I think

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Speaker 6: the weather, of course, having to spend a lot of

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Speaker 6: October thirty first in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Always a poor.

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Speaker 7: That I'm tired of breath bar he has no stand.

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Speaker 1: Camp dam where are you going? Time for two more questions, guys.

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Speaker 1: A dog with a note in his master table shallows lady.

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Speaker 7: Oh, the Lions on a table can and terrible Sady,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, he's the clown from Brown He's the fourth

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Speaker 1: This is the common Man, Dan cole. Hey, it's time

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Speaker 1: for the glom Oh Boys coming to wagh in five

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Speaker 1: four greedies. Good afternoon and act acadec and at two

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Speaker 1: in yours promises to be a fast paced, action packed

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Speaker 1: and what well as always controversial Common Man program. I

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Speaker 1: Well, it kind of hangs in the balance with the result.

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Speaker 1: World Series thrilling again last night, excellent game Toronto evens

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Speaker 3: Now with a look inside the inbox of Fox.

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Speaker 1: Here's the common man. No Viking fans have turned on

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Speaker 1: good at the Pop Warner level, the Howard Pulley level,

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Speaker 1: Darnald had an armed yai eio with a tuddy here

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Speaker 1: McCarthy's played well for ten minutes in the Bears game.

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Speaker 1: good spot right now. The Lions dend's a tough place

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Speaker 1: We have Rock Talk and Rock Rank Rock Rank, Rock

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Speaker 1: Talk coming up with Brian o' get a twelve thirty

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Speaker 1: the Hills and Geordie Shore, will remain in operation.

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Speaker 2: Well, because that's the only profitable wing of what they do.

431
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Speaker 2: I mean, what you just called Jeordie Shore, is that

432
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Speaker 2: what it's called Geordy Yeah, Jordy Jordan.

433
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Speaker 8: No.

434
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Speaker 2: Jersey Shore is the American version, The brit version is Johnny.

435
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:57,919
Speaker 2: Jeordie's are people from the north of England and often

436
00:25:58,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 2: sort of look down upon as working, are not as educated.

437
00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: Jeordi's are more salt of the earth types, and so yeah,

438
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 2: Jeordi Shore, Jersey Shore. They just happened to have a

439
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,000
Speaker 2: nice analog over there in the UK. Were you ever

440
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 2: a music video buff?

441
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:12,879
Speaker 1: Is ampty?

442
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 2: I still am. Some people still put their heart and

443
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 2: soul into it. But to me, MTV, part of this

444
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,880
Speaker 2: is their fault, and part of it's not their fault.

445
00:26:20,960 --> 00:26:24,720
Speaker 2: They started moving away from music. They really were responsible

446
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:28,000
Speaker 2: more than any other singular outlet for the not only

447
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 2: the birth but the really first true reality TV explosion,

448
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: and you can't begrudge that. I mean, people like what

449
00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:36,560
Speaker 2: they like, but MTV Proper, which is why they ended

450
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,600
Speaker 2: up coming with all these splinter channels later on. MTV

451
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 2: Proper stopped being about music a long time ago, well

452
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:47,919
Speaker 2: into the nineties, and so they made a conscious effort

453
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 2: to change the focus of what they do despite their name.

454
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,119
Speaker 2: But then also the advent of the Internet in the

455
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 2: late nineties and really exploding in the early two thousands,

456
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 2: there are so many other avenues to market for video

457
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:03,159
Speaker 2: product and musical product in general. I mean, radio faces

458
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 2: the same challenges, but I haven't so I watched great videos,

459
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: and great videos are still being made, but they're all

460
00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:11,159
Speaker 2: available at the click of a button online and you

461
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 2: can watch your favorite whenever you want.

462
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Speaker 1: Tenna. I don't know if you're old enough to remember,

463
00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: do you remember it? In common?

464
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Speaker 2: I don't ask you because I just don't think you

465
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,760
Speaker 2: would have cared. When MTV was so popular, as we're

466
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 2: getting out of the eighties and into the nineties, there

467
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,080
Speaker 2: was a feature on cable called the Box where you

468
00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 2: could dial in or punch in and for ninety nine

469
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,640
Speaker 2: cents order your video and then your video would cue

470
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 2: up and eventually your video would come along.

471
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Speaker 1: Does that ring a bet at all?

472
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Speaker 2: Okay, that's probably a little before your time, but this

473
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: is very early cable days, and yeah, I couldn't figure

474
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: out how that model worked. I'm like, ninety nine cents

475
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 2: for every three to four minutes, that's not anything.

476
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:47,399
Speaker 1: But they were around for a couple of years. But

477
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: then I don't know what happened to me. I've watched

478
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: a handful of videos where I and it is it's

479
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: because if I like, for instance, if I if I

480
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,560
Speaker 1: listened to a song on YouTube, for instance, it always

481
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: comes with an accompanying video and a lot of video

482
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Speaker 1: that So there are a handful I've watched, and I

483
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 1: can understand the allure to them, but it's it's much

484
00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 1: like people will spend time what do they call it

485
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: when you when you when you watch videos on on binging,

486
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: no snapchat and all the rolling scrolling? Is that what

487
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,879
Speaker 1: we say you're scrolling or doom scrolling if you're just

488
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: there going forever that you can't stop for four hours

489
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: a year as I'm looking for. I've never been a

490
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 1: doom scroller. It never does. Like to watch a dog

491
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: spin a plate on his head while riding on the

492
00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: top of a subway car just doesn't do anything for me.

493
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: You don't have to put up with ten seconds of

494
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: it and then you can go on do the next thing.

495
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,720
Speaker 1: I know, I'm not arguing with the people like I'm

496
00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 1: just saying for me, it's never done it. I don't

497
00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 1: have any interest in watching them at all. But I

498
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: do find this this because I brought up the Buggles

499
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: song because that was going to change. Radio was going

500
00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:56,479
Speaker 1: to die, right, it wasn't going to be anybody. Everybody

501
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: was going to want.

502
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Speaker 8: You.

503
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: You play your guitar on MTV, I ain't work and

504
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: that's way you do it. But now it looks like

505
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: it's come full circle. And because like you say, because

506
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: it's available on the click, because almost every song that's

507
00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: released still comes with the video, does it. Not not

508
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: all of them, but a lot of them do.

509
00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: I mean, if they're trying to promote it, they know

510
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:17,600
Speaker 2: that they're still you know, they're gonna want a video.

511
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: In the club.

512
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 2: Believe it or not, people still go out club and

513
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: they somehow that survived the pandemic and online people need

514
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 2: a visual element.

515
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:26,720
Speaker 1: Of course.

516
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 2: With Spotify things like that, you can sit and just

517
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:30,240
Speaker 2: listen to music, or you put it on and it

518
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: goes throughout your house. But if you're sitting there actively looking,

519
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,360
Speaker 2: or you're a particularly big fan of a band, and

520
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 2: there are still the videos with you know, hundreds hundreds,

521
00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,800
Speaker 2: one hundreds of thousands of dollars in budget, if not millions,

522
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,520
Speaker 2: it's just it's not the same force that it was.

523
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: But we are so saturated in a multimedia environment when

524
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 2: it comes to any form of media that there's got

525
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: to be If it's going to be a killer song,

526
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: it's got to have a great video to go with it.

527
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 2: I was watching videos this morning, very very good. You

528
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 2: had you said you had a couple items. Oh yeah,

529
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,560
Speaker 2: just a couple of quick items and nothing too fancy.

530
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: This one I don't know anything about, but I think

531
00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 2: it's just noteworthy because it's popular culture and it proves

532
00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 2: the power of well power. Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau,

533
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,880
Speaker 2: you know, the Canadian Prime minister, have confirmed their relationship

534
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: with their first public appearance as a couple in Paris.

535
00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 2: Of course it's in Paris, and again I don't really care.

536
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:30,160
Speaker 2: In fact, I don't care at all, but it's noteworthy

537
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 2: because we're talking about the leader of an entire country

538
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 2: and formerly one of the biggest pop stars out of America.

539
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 2: They've decided to make it a thing, and it's been

540
00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 2: going on for a while, but now apparently it's official.

541
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,320
Speaker 2: And I just know, in this season where things are

542
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 2: falling apart and it's cuffing season, it's getting cold and

543
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,160
Speaker 2: people want to, you know, hook up and know the

544
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 2: true love is possible even at the upper echelons of

545
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,160
Speaker 2: power and fame. Apparently you can still find true love,

546
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 2: which I think warms everybody hard.

547
00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 1: And then this one.

548
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,840
Speaker 2: I knew this would be you because the world's greatest

549
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,720
Speaker 2: hype man, the the first thing you think of in

550
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 2: hip hop when when I say hype man. Let's turn

551
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 2: this one to Tenna. Tenna who is the most famous

552
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,640
Speaker 2: and most iconic hype man in all of hip hop,

553
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 2: in all of hip hop. Yep, Flavor Flav, correct.

554
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 8: You are abbam And because he is, he somebody, We're

555
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 8: gonna make him say puffed Eddy.

556
00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,040
Speaker 2: I'm a big flav He's he's not a hype man.

557
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,400
Speaker 2: He's amazed with if anything was his hype man, but

558
00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 2: it's no. I mean, Flave was not the primary rapper.

559
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,040
Speaker 2: He would get a verse here or there or throw

560
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: in a couple of phrases, but he was all about

561
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 2: yeah boy and the big giant clocks. I mean he

562
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: he is iconic when it comes to hip hop. Well, now,

563
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: Flavor Flave is apparently completely jacked, according to the headline

564
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 2: of this article on Billboard, to be the official hype

565
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 2: man for USA bob sled and skeleton teams at the

566
00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six Winter Olympics. Now, the reason this hit

567
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:02,600
Speaker 2: clobetone for me is one is you're a Flavor Flav guy. Well,

568
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:05,240
Speaker 2: I loved Public Enemy. I still think Public Enemy is

569
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: one of the most important American hip hop bands that

570
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:08,320
Speaker 2: ever existed.

571
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 1: Its Flavor Flavor member of that band. He was.

572
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 2: He was the hype man behind Chuck d and so

573
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 2: he did get some wrapping in there and got a

574
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 2: couple of B side singles that were his own.

575
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: But he was at the end of pa shot.

576
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,360
Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna be honest, man, that guy's ability

577
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 2: and that guy's innate flow are kind of startling.

578
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,160
Speaker 1: And he does it on the regular. He's good well,

579
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,040
Speaker 1: and not only that, I've had the opportunity, because you

580
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,320
Speaker 1: know our show follows that, I'll go into the studio

581
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 1: just to you know, once every a couple of weeks

582
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:39,080
Speaker 1: to just catch up with Nordo and he'll be writing

583
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:39,840
Speaker 1: the rap.

584
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 7: Huh.

585
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:42,600
Speaker 1: It's to me, it's like being on a fly on

586
00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: the wall when Paul Simon rowed over troubled Water. I

587
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: mean it's that. No, I'm serious, it's it's it's the

588
00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 1: same thing. Watching him put the lyrics together for the rap,

589
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 1: it's astonishing. He's just he's so.

590
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 2: Good at it that it sounds effortless. But I know

591
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 2: it takes real work and years of practice and getting that.

592
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,120
Speaker 2: But I mean, you look at Nordo. If someone who

593
00:33:02,160 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 2: had never met him before you were to look at

594
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,280
Speaker 2: Nordo and say that guy has mad flow, they would

595
00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 2: laugh in your face. They'd be like, no, he does not,

596
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,040
Speaker 2: and in fact, he absolutely does. But the other reason

597
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: I love the Flavor Flave announcement is skeleton is my

598
00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:18,240
Speaker 2: very favorite Olympic winter sports.

599
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: Mine too, especially round Halloween. Yeah, that's a good one.

600
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 1: It's bomb.

601
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: Sled's fine, louge is fine. Two man luge still unusual.

602
00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:29,440
Speaker 2: Not sure how that got started.

603
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: I bet you'd be really good at the couch lose

604
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,719
Speaker 1: I know why? Oh well, couch louse. I mean, if

605
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,040
Speaker 1: they had that as an event, I would be a

606
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: gold medal you know what.

607
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 2: I was so good at couch who I didn't bother

608
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 2: going to the to the practice, to the tryouds. But

609
00:33:40,520 --> 00:33:48,840
Speaker 2: skeleton just you head first, a hundred miles an hour, headfirst,

610
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 2: laying down on a little sled. There's nothing between you

611
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 2: and complete oblivion.

612
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,760
Speaker 1: There's a reason that they call it sounds like playing

613
00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Minnesota bikeing Not well.

614
00:33:57,520 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, but if you give him a

615
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,920
Speaker 2: little more time to get centered on the sled, or

616
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,400
Speaker 2: on the skeleton sled, then I'll be able to complete

617
00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 2: the run.

618
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 1: Do you know a singer actress named Renee Rap?

619
00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, very well, I mean I follow her. I

620
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 2: guess I don't know her well. I follow her on TikTok.

621
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 2: Her music's not my style, but she's good at the internet,

622
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:15,879
Speaker 2: she's good at social media.

623
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: Well, I just the only reason I bring her up

624
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: because I'd never heard of her. But I saw a

625
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 1: story that says, hold on, I saw it Renee Rap.

626
00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:28,879
Speaker 2: I know she canceled her last three shows because she's

627
00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: sick because of vocal issues. Don't know those vocal issues.

628
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 2: I don't you know my And again, my knowledge of

629
00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 2: her does not go deep. I am not your one

630
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: stop Renee Rap destination. But my understanding is that just

631
00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,000
Speaker 2: off Broadway, she kind of made a name for herself,

632
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,720
Speaker 2: and she's got a sassy, young attitude, a good voice,

633
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: she's good at social media. She's very much of the

634
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:51,359
Speaker 2: hip now with it and while I believe you call

635
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:54,880
Speaker 2: it and she's very much in that in that space,

636
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 2: she's very good at social media. She's got a thing happening,

637
00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 2: and she's going on this tour. She was just here

638
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,239
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, maybe a week ago, I

639
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,439
Speaker 2: can't remember exactly. I think she played at the Armory.

640
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: So she's playing decent sized venues, but she's very young,

641
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 2: and I think that it's pretty common when you're young,

642
00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 2: especially when this is your first big headlining tour, that

643
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 2: you kind of go all out. So I wouldn't be

644
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,280
Speaker 2: surprised if she's not sick and just burnt her voice

645
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,600
Speaker 2: out trying to rock out at all these shows give

646
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 2: the fans what they want, live up to the expectations,

647
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,839
Speaker 2: so I again, I don't have any idea what her

648
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,919
Speaker 2: actual situation is, and her songs to me is kind

649
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: of cool young gen z pop, you know, not your

650
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,480
Speaker 2: typical radio stuff. I don't think she's ready for that,

651
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:38,920
Speaker 2: but she's good at what she does, and she's got

652
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 2: zillions of fans.

653
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 1: So the highlight of every Brian o'k appearance here on

654
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:51,400
Speaker 1: Rock Talk is, of course, our favorite segment, Rock Rank Rocklank.

655
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:56,799
Speaker 2: Rock Rock Light Rock Rank, rock K Rock Like time,

656
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,479
Speaker 2: Come on Rock Run Rock Rank Rock Rank.

657
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 8: I think you mentioned this a couple of weeks ago.

658
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:03,360
Speaker 8: I thought, Hey, that's a good rock rank idea, So

659
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 8: now we're going to do it today. Your top five

660
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,840
Speaker 8: front men in the history of music.

661
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: Huh.

662
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 2: Now, this was a tough one. Aunt. Well, we'll have

663
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:18,880
Speaker 2: to wait and find out. All will be revealed genius.

664
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 2: We'll probably wait tell number one before that one comes, exactly,

665
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: so don't yeah, hold your breath. To be very clear

666
00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: on this, there are a lot of people that qualify

667
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:28,440
Speaker 2: for this, but boy again, boiling it down to the

668
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 2: top five, that's where that's why you have to call

669
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 2: them the experts. You need someone who's willing to make

670
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:34,920
Speaker 2: the tough choices. I did not include a single woman,

671
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: not because I don't believe. You know, and we've talked

672
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 2: many times, there are all time legendary, brilliant time exactly.

673
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 1: So this one is just dudes and just rock and roll.

674
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 2: And I went with a combination of personal taste but

675
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: also impact, Like I mean, like the iconography matters. I

676
00:36:52,760 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 2: mean the reason that we remember certain frontmen is.

677
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,880
Speaker 1: Iconography. I like that, Well that's your your pedestalizing and

678
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: iconography was like what you did with that special kind

679
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 1: of writing, here we go. Yeah.

680
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:04,920
Speaker 2: No, it's got a lot of graphs and maps involved,

681
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 2: for sure. But when we turn people into when they

682
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: become cultural icons, they're there for a reason because they

683
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 2: had a lasting impact. They were larger than life. Their

684
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:15,880
Speaker 2: charisma was literally off the charts. It is killing me

685
00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 2: to not include my favorite front man going right now,

686
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 2: Josh Amy, your Queen's of the Stone age on this,

687
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,160
Speaker 2: but trust me in my heart of hearts, Josh, You're

688
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 2: currently number one, but I'm going all timer's here, So

689
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 2: starting at number five. A guy who ended up taking

690
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:30,040
Speaker 2: his stage name from the name of the band he

691
00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 2: fronted for many years. They were great as a band,

692
00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: but he became genuinely iconic, truly a singular face and

693
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 2: force in the world of rock music when he went

694
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 2: solo or just moved out in front and took the

695
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: band's name for his own.

696
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 1: And that would be Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper.

697
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: There's no Marilyn Manson with Alice Cooper. And Marilyn Manson

698
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 2: has said as much, and maybe a lot of people

699
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,400
Speaker 2: are like, good, no, Maryland, But you can't deny that

700
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 2: the guys had an impact when it comes to them. Well,

701
00:37:59,080 --> 00:38:01,280
Speaker 2: you don't even have to respec Marilyn Manson. That guy's

702
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 2: done some dirty dog stuff on the sidelines. And that

703
00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,479
Speaker 2: being said, I've seen him live a half dozen times,

704
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: and I like Marilyn Manson.

705
00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 1: Is Alice Cooper the hot What is you called the calligraphy?

706
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 1: No iconography is iconography or do you like him or

707
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,560
Speaker 1: both both? That was never an Alice Cooper the band.

708
00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 1: I like the band era better than the solo era.

709
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,800
Speaker 1: But when you talk about somebody who took a persona

710
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: and crafted an image and and well seriously and he

711
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 1: was able to you know, a part of being a

712
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,360
Speaker 1: front person is not only are you articulating the words

713
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: that go with the music, but you're the face of

714
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 1: the band. You need to have the charisma to be

715
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 1: able to tell the story.

716
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: And then in addition to telling the story, the amount

717
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 2: of props that became involved the amount of theater without

718
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 2: detracting from how good the rock was. Anybody you've watched

719
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 2: to do that over the years owes a huge debt

720
00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 2: to Alice Cooper because he carved out new territory. It's

721
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 2: gonna sound silly to some people, but Alice Cooper is

722
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 2: a pioneer man.

723
00:38:57,400 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: He's just he is a pioneer. Number four best front

724
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,799
Speaker 1: men in rock history.

725
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,160
Speaker 2: Number four, and some would put him at number one.

726
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:08,719
Speaker 2: Is the monkey Genius, the street fighting man A. Mick

727
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 2: Jagger of the Rolling Stones is absolutely one of the

728
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:14,960
Speaker 2: greatest and most iconic front men of all time.

729
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640
Speaker 1: You Mick Jaggery yeah. I like the Stones very much,

730
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: very yeah.

731
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 2: I mean the Stones are as famous as it gets,

732
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 2: and again, their music is great, but it's really variations

733
00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: on ripping off Chuck Berry, right. I mean, it's not

734
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 2: like they were ever considered to be this musical powerhouse,

735
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 2: but they had an image, they had a style, and

736
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:35,560
Speaker 2: that was largely defined through the lens of the guy

737
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 2: out front telling the stories.

738
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 1: Good looking, free care. You know.

739
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 2: The Beatles were so squeaky clean, even though they were brilliant,

740
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 2: much more brilliant musically, But to have someone be a

741
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 2: little DIRTI or a little rock and roll a little

742
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,320
Speaker 2: more dare I say sexualized.

743
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 1: Mick Jagger brought that in a way that no one

744
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:54,080
Speaker 1: had done it prior to him. I remember seeing a

745
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,840
Speaker 1: quote from Mick Jagger many many years ago where the

746
00:39:57,040 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: six they had a not a bitter ri rivalry with

747
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,959
Speaker 1: the Beatles, but they were both the two biggest bands

748
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 1: at the time.

749
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,440
Speaker 2: It was a friendly rivalry. They played each other's stuff

750
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,400
Speaker 2: for everybody each other.

751
00:40:06,719 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: I saw where he once said every time the Beatles

752
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 1: would released a song or an album, they would go

753
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how they do it. They they had

754
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the because they were in their music was so different

755
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: than than anything else that was being right, and he

756
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: was just astonished at at how they could do it

757
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 1: over and over over again. I just read another piece

758
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: where the is it called Beggar's Banquet? Yeah, okay, the

759
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 1: album they were releasing, the album Beggar's Banquet. They were

760
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,880
Speaker 1: doing like a private release thing. McCartney showed up and

761
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 1: apparently he had like a EP of like two songs

762
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 1: they did, and told the jockey to put that on,

763
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: and it blew everybody away, and everybody was talking about

764
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:47,320
Speaker 1: that instead of that, and I guess Jagger was a

765
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 1: bit annoyed by the whole.

766
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 2: Well, I understandably so. But again then it speaks to

767
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: you it's a friendly rivalry, but the word rivalry is

768
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,480
Speaker 2: still very much in that phrase. Speaking of Beggar's Bank

769
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 2: at very quick aside, if anyone knows the cover of that,

770
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: there's a beautiful the bathroom at the record store workout

771
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 2: has been redone to mimic the entire Beggars Banquet milieu.

772
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: The design flow number three Do you want? Number three?

773
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 2: Robert Plant of led Zeppelin. I've been going through a

774
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 2: personal led Zeppelin renaissance lately. Between just listening to the

775
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,720
Speaker 2: records again, but also watching that great documentary Becoming Zeppelin.

776
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 2: They just again, Now, this is a band with real

777
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 2: musical chops. Everybody at every position was the top notch

778
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 2: performer in the field. And there's no doubting that Jimmy

779
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: Page was the true genius in that band. But again,

780
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:41,840
Speaker 2: in this time where rock was, I mean it always

781
00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: was with blues and even Elvis Presley, but in an

782
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 2: unprecedented form, sexuality was being pushed to the front right,

783
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:52,920
Speaker 2: and so in addition to unbelievably wild and inventive blues

784
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 2: rock vocal chops, Robert Plant was just a sexy mf

785
00:41:58,000 --> 00:41:59,400
Speaker 2: or there's no way around it.

786
00:41:59,520 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 8: He was.

787
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: And again, when you think of lead singers, there's not

788
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 1: anybody who loved him.

789
00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:07,440
Speaker 2: Oh well, but so did the dudes man loved him,

790
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 2: loved him well as a that's part of the allure

791
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: of rock and rolls. That's part of the and I

792
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 2: you know, I've seen lists where people put him his

793
00:42:15,520 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 2: number one all time, and I'm not mad at that

794
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 2: at all, because I love Zeppelin and I think that

795
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 2: he he really was unique, certainly of the time and

796
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 2: really even since then, of people at that level number two,

797
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,720
Speaker 2: number two. This one will not be shared by many people,

798
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 2: but I think that he absolutely made the band what

799
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,800
Speaker 2: it was. Jim Morrison the door No, but he was

800
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 2: very close to making this list because so many people

801
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: hate him, he's so polarizing, but he was the personality.

802
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:45,120
Speaker 2: He was the persona of that band, the same as

803
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,439
Speaker 2: this guy Australian and he had been in the music

804
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,960
Speaker 2: industry for years, was just now kind of schlepping gear

805
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 2: and doing tech stuff for a little Aussi blues based

806
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 2: rock out fit and when their lead singer didn't work out,

807
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 2: they asked this guy to give it a shot, and

808
00:42:58,600 --> 00:43:01,360
Speaker 2: he did and ended helping them to become one of

809
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:05,400
Speaker 2: the most important rock bands internationally of the nineteen seventies.

810
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:08,200
Speaker 2: And despite his death at way too young in age,

811
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,319
Speaker 2: their legacy would go on for decades and decades more.

812
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: And that would be Bon Scott of ACDC Bond embodied

813
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,600
Speaker 2: this weird spot to look at him, not a handsome man,

814
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,120
Speaker 2: not a terribly alluring person, just to see sitting there,

815
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: but what he did the amount of menace Because rocket

816
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:26,840
Speaker 2: Roll to me, if it's really rock and roll, it

817
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,439
Speaker 2: should be a little dangerous. There should be a little sex.

818
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 2: There should be a little danger. You shouldn't always feel

819
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: safe at a rock show.

820
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: And.

821
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 2: He was this perfect combination of menace and somehow, despite

822
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 2: the fact that he was very average looking, he had

823
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:50,120
Speaker 2: genuine visceral sex appeal. He to me, embodies what a

824
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:52,399
Speaker 2: rock and roll front man is if you don't mind

825
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 2: the greasier and grimeer side of rock and roll, which

826
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 2: I absolutely do not.

827
00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 1: Number one Number one means of the stone age guy

828
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: that is. That is I told you thought he was

829
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:02,800
Speaker 1: the greatest front man of all time. I know I

830
00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,400
Speaker 1: never said that.

831
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 2: I said he's my current favorite front man now number

832
00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:08,799
Speaker 2: one all time, and I would I if anybody wants

833
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:11,440
Speaker 2: to challenge this, I'm cool with it. But I just

834
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,000
Speaker 2: I have so many arguments as to why you're completely wrong.

835
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: Freddy Mercury. I absolutely am going with Freddie Mercury. Think

836
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: about it.

837
00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 2: A dynamic, super talented, unbelievably charming and frankly, his voice,

838
00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 2: the vocal chops alone, even if he just sat still

839
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 2: in a folding chair, would have been stunning. But when

840
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:35,480
Speaker 2: we talk about the theatrics, the signature standless microphone that

841
00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 2: he could hoist up and lift around the not full

842
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: blown dance moves, but the sort of just the choreography,

843
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 2: the rock choreography that he brought to it, and the

844
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:49,360
Speaker 2: passion that he brought to it. We've never seen his equal,

845
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,239
Speaker 2: and I don't know that we ever will again. I

846
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 2: think he's number one all time. What about you, man,

847
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: who are some of them you love?

848
00:44:55,200 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: Jim Morrison? Yeah, I agree, David Cassidy, the Partridge Family

849
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:01,320
Speaker 1: also a fine choice. Baby Jones of the Monkeys, not

850
00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:01,680
Speaker 1: really the.

851
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,880
Speaker 2: Lead singer, but okay, not really a front man, more

852
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:06,719
Speaker 2: of a more of a side fella, a little short

853
00:45:06,719 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 2: English side fella.

854
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have to. I would have to look again.

855
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 1: I I did not check with Timby with that, right.

856
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:16,880
Speaker 2: Well, that's why I like to check, because then I

857
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 2: can organize my thoughts a little bit, you know.

858
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 1: I get that. So I would put those. But there

859
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,640
Speaker 1: are many others. I was so many others. I was

860
00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: always a big fan of Eric Burden, Yeah, because he

861
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 1: was great.

862
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,880
Speaker 2: He outpaced that band, he outshown that band, which is

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Speaker 2: why he went on to a solo career.

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Speaker 1: So there are there are many i'ssion about him, not

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Speaker 1: lest yeah, and then meets us.

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Speaker 2: There are a lot of honorable mentions. Look, if Jim

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Speaker 2: Morrison doesn't make the list, but he's in the honorable mentions,

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Speaker 2: MEETSA should be happy with.

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Speaker 1: His placement here. He knows how I feel about him.

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Speaker 2: I'm always at home danced around to the whalers like

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Speaker 2: Tom Cruise and Risky Business. Let me ask you a question.

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Speaker 2: I think I've been told you have a podcast. It's true, actually,

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Speaker 2: and I just saw the numbers recently. It's more popular

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Speaker 2: than I thought, so humble. Thank you to every one

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Speaker 2: who's ever checked it out. But yeah, it's called The

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Speaker 2: Brian Oak Show. It is an hour long and you're

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Speaker 2: between forty five minutes and an hour talking to area musicians, entrepreneurs, politicians, whatever.

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Speaker 2: It's very very Upper Midwestern centric. Is it iconographic that?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: We're still working on that right, But you can find

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Speaker 2: it on the free iHeartRadio app. Five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: seven episodes deep The Brian Oaks Show Podcast. We'll see

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Speaker 2: you next Wednesday. See you then that's rock Talk.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a break. When we come back, I'll be

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Speaker 1: time for five, three, four ten. What you got for us?

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Speaker 1: Could we be hearing this again in Minnesota. We like that,

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Speaker 1: don't like that.