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Speaker 1: Welcome back. It is since he three to sixty rolled

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Speaker 1: along Friday afternoon ESBN fifteen to thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's do this because we just talked to our guy

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Speaker 1: Tom Gallander from FC Cincinnati. Let's parlay this to our

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Speaker 1: guy Bob Manjean from the University of Cincinnati and Nova

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Speaker 1: Care who joins us each and every week. Stands by

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Speaker 1: right now, Bob, what's going on?

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Speaker 2: Tony? Just getting ready to play another game? You know

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Speaker 2: in college basketball? Is you better have a short term

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Speaker 2: memory because you're going to play two to three days later.

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Speaker 2: How is the ready to go to oaklanda state is here?

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Speaker 1: How is the mental of the team? Obviously a nice

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Speaker 1: little winning streak, a big win at Kansas, which had

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Speaker 1: to be awesome for everyone involved, the locker room scenes

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Speaker 1: after the game, we were amazing to watch, and then

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Speaker 1: a tough Texas Tech team, but still three games left

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Speaker 1: in the regular season schedule. What's the mindset? Does the

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Speaker 1: team feel ready to go? Feel upbeat right now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I think the team, you know, understands the difficulty

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Speaker 2: of this conference and to travel with it and everything

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Speaker 2: that goes with it. And you're you're not gonna win

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Speaker 2: I mean, look at all the teams and how many

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Speaker 2: losses you've had within the conference from Houston Arizona, and

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Speaker 2: it's just hard and the travels hard. So I mean,

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Speaker 2: nick Kins, I think are very upbeat at this point.

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Speaker 2: We have three games to go in the season and

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Speaker 2: hopefully make a little run in the tournament. And you know,

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Speaker 2: there's still that possibility of the tournament. So I'm very,

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Speaker 2: very optimistic that the kids are here to be able

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Speaker 1: I do have to say as well, we just had

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Speaker 1: a chance to talk to our good friend Tom Gallader

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Speaker 1: from FC Cincinnati. But before Tommy G was handling business

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Speaker 1: with the Orange and Blue, Tommy G was the sideline

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Speaker 1: reporter when I was playing football at you See, and

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Speaker 1: Tommy wanted me to pass along his hello and also

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Speaker 1: to just bring up and remind you all those times

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Speaker 1: get injury reports on me during games.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know, I'm Tommy. Tommy's great kid whole he

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Speaker 2: was a kid. He's a great guy, does a phenomenal

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Speaker 2: job with f C Cincinnati, and it's a great team

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Speaker 2: program right now with everything they've put together. Tom was

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Speaker 2: easy to work with never really bothering, badgering me too much,

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Speaker 2: you know. And again he wasn't like you, you know,

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Speaker 2: you always got on my back about her report. He

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Speaker 2: just was so easy to get along with.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's probably like, oh, Pike's hurt again, I'll just

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and there you go. It was easy.

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Speaker 1: It was easy. But I thought, because Tommy had mentioned

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Speaker 1: it today that they are getting ready to play in

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Speaker 1: some cold temperature games. Rewards a little bit different. They're

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Speaker 1: playing these cold temperature games. Now, how difficult is that

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean, you got a lot of things in

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Speaker 2: considering cold weather environments. And again I think in today's

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Speaker 2: I think that it's still very dangerous to participate in

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Speaker 2: again I hated cold weather games. I went much rather

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Speaker 2: And you know, you remember the game. I think you

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Speaker 2: But again, there's a lot of products out there. I mean,

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Speaker 2: whole thought process through. At the collegiate level for Olympic sports,

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Speaker 2: So you know, in the at the NCAA level, in

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Speaker 2: different conferences that pass different weather related cold weather related

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Speaker 2: they have to be really careful, especially at four degrees,

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Speaker 1: I look too. I know when you when you start

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Speaker 1: the blood flow being reduced a little bit. So what

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Speaker 2: Oh, I'm really worried about most of their injuries. You know,

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Speaker 2: you've got to be very very careful of muscle injury.

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Speaker 2: Your hamstrings, your quad get cold, your abductors. Uh. You

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Speaker 2: Tights will help keep warm. So you know, again in

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Speaker 2: you know when you're off you're on those heated benches,

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Speaker 1: So are you, like so as a as a training

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Speaker 1: are you talking to coaches? Are you talking with other

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, if you have a kid who's already got

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Speaker 2: You don't want to subject them to something that you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, especially early in the season as well.

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Speaker 2: Right, Oh, absolutely early in the season, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 2: tightness at all, you know, you may have to pull

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Speaker 2: we've done that. We've absolutely done that, so that you know,

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Speaker 2: the kids, the kids you're trying to not get worse.

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Speaker 2: At this time of year, you're trying to minimize your

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Speaker 1: So, if those conversations are are obviously being had, is

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Speaker 1: meetings behind the scenes. It's kind of what I'm asking about, Okay,

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Speaker 1: talking to a coach about that, I'm sure yes.

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Speaker 2: As the game is ongoing, you know, you're assessing the kid,

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Speaker 2: So those conversations are ongoing throughout the course of the game,

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Speaker 1: Much about it? Let's say, let let's switch it from soccer.

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Speaker 1: Let's say this basketball season right now, and let's say

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Speaker 1: you know a player is banged up and there's three

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Speaker 1: regular season games left. Are you having the same in

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Speaker 1: game conversations as you would with a head coach of Hey,

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Speaker 1: here's the risk, here's where he's at, and can it

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Speaker 1: There's just contant communication between all sides.

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Speaker 2: Yes, we work on what Wes is really super easy.

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Speaker 2: West sits and wants to know, you know, where's this athlete,

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Speaker 2: where's that athlete? You know, how much practice load do

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Speaker 2: go for two hours with that athlete. You know, Wes.

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Speaker 2: Wes was really comfortable with being able to to alter

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Speaker 2: things based on where we are with each individual athletes.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes it's individualized. It's not like the whole team.

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Speaker 2: Because you do have guys who are playing thirty plus

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Speaker 2: careful of making sure they're ready for the next game.

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Speaker 1: That is Bob Manjean with the University of Cincinnati and Novacare.

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Speaker 1: He joins us each and every week. Bob, thanks so much,

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Speaker 1: good luck this weekend, and we'll talk again next week.

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Speaker 2: Thanks Tony, you guys have a good weekend. And Austin

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Speaker 2: and I keep hoping the red ze good for you.

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Speaker 1: He does as well. That is a Bob man Jean.

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