Speaker 1: I don't expect that anybody is going to know the
Speaker 1: Shambala Music Festival.
Speaker 2: I didn't know of it.
Speaker 3: Where is it?
Speaker 2: British Columbia, so west coast of Canada, and it.
Speaker 1: Is a it is like it kind of gets described
Speaker 1: as being between a rave and a music festival.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: Was it called Shambala?
Speaker 1: Shambala? I even hope I'm pronouncing it right, Shambala. But
Speaker 1: it takes place in British Columbia and they do it
Speaker 1: several days that it takes place, and it's about twenty
Speaker 1: five thousand people that show up every year for the
Speaker 1: Shambala Music Festival. Pictures make it look awesome. Pictures make
Speaker 1: it look great. So can I read you part of
Speaker 1: this thing that I was reading about? A group of
Speaker 1: friends that they talked to were going to the festival.
Speaker 1: They'd never been before. As the friend set up camp
Speaker 1: among the twenty five thousand other visitors to the Shambala
Speaker 1: Music Festival, they were approached by someone offering party favors drugs.
Speaker 1: Right soon they received a men, thank you.
Speaker 3: You don't know that term?
Speaker 4: No, Kristen's busy, But would she have known what that was.
Speaker 1: If I said, Hey, we're going to a music festival.
Speaker 1: I brought some party favors. Would you think that I
Speaker 1: brought like noisemakers? Seriously, you would think noise makers over drugs.
Speaker 4: Maybe not noisemakers. But I didn't immediately go to drugs.
Speaker 1: Oh oh, Kristen went from airplane bottles of liquor.
Speaker 2: Okay, drugs.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they were approached by someone offering party favors drugs.
Speaker 1: Then they received a menu of illicit substances and their
Speaker 1: prices via an en encrypted messaging app.
Speaker 2: Fine, I get all that.
Speaker 1: The three of them and several other people that were
Speaker 1: around them decided to purchase three things, LSD, ketamine and MDMA.
Speaker 2: Okay, what's wrong?
Speaker 4: I'm so nervous.
Speaker 2: The wait, Tyler, you know you're not You didn't buy
Speaker 2: any take them? Yeah, you're not doing it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know, but it's like three things I'd be
Speaker 4: worried about trying to illegally obtain one.
Speaker 2: The yeah, no, But I mean.
Speaker 1: So anyway, they paid four hundred dollars and they got
Speaker 1: their whatever volume of LSD, ketamine and MDMA. Listen, if somebody,
Speaker 1: if I was there and they were offering me party favors,
Speaker 1: I ain't getting the LSD.
Speaker 2: The other two I'd have to have a discussion about.
Speaker 1: But anyway, here's the difference between Shambala and they point
Speaker 1: out almost every other festival in Canada.
Speaker 2: And I don't know that any exist.
Speaker 1: As they said, they don't know that any exists in
Speaker 1: the United States.
Speaker 2: And I mean, think.
Speaker 1: About We're just coming off of what was last weekend
Speaker 1: was like Lollapalooza. What distinguishes Shambala is that anyone can
Speaker 1: test the drugs that they've just purchased and get advice
Speaker 1: on how to reduce the risk of using them at
Speaker 1: an on site drug lab.
Speaker 4: So this is like a sanctioned vendor.
Speaker 1: No, No, the vendor isn't sanctioned. The person selling it. No,
Speaker 1: that is not the sanctioned person. The lab is sanctioned.
Speaker 3: Oh and it's on site.
Speaker 2: The free drug.
Speaker 1: Testing service is sanctioned by both the festival and the
Speaker 1: Canadian government. Shambala's approach is one answer to a question
Speaker 1: at the heart of the problem, what should be done
Speaker 1: about a drug supply that is more contaminated, potent, and
Speaker 1: unpredicted to bolder than any other time in history.
Speaker 2: Now, listen, there are no shortage.
Speaker 1: Of people who think This is a horrible idea that
Speaker 1: you're essentially saying, go buy drug right.
Speaker 2: Now. The festival people and the I.
Speaker 1: Don't remember who the spokesperson was for the Canadian government
Speaker 1: said listen, what we're we're just the focus of this
Speaker 1: is harm reduction. We know, by the way, if you
Speaker 1: go to if you go to Shambala's website, if you
Speaker 1: go read about it, they'll tell you drugs aren't allowed.
Speaker 2: There's no drugs that are allowed.
Speaker 3: They know they're going to be there. Of course, Yeah, of.
Speaker 4: Course, So can I sluck a busted for using using.
Speaker 5: I put in R you're in a damn word. Welcome
Speaker 5: to marjoh on the darnold Oh that's right. The yeah,
Speaker 5: I don't the answer is I'm I'm sure that answer
Speaker 5: is yes.
Speaker 2: I don't know that.
Speaker 1: But they do say drug use is illegal, drug use
Speaker 1: is prohibited, and they know that. But you know the
Speaker 1: other thing, they know people are going to do drugs
Speaker 1: at the festival.
Speaker 6: I'm looking at photos. You would be in your element.
Speaker 6: Oh there these are my people, for sure. But listen,
Speaker 6: like you could say that about any festival people are
Speaker 6: going to what's wrong?
Speaker 3: I'm looking at the pictures?
Speaker 1: Oh do you see me in there. Ye, people are
Speaker 1: going to do drugs. I mean it's going to happen.
Speaker 4: Do drugs, not use drugs.
Speaker 1: But that that's not me. No, no, But but that's
Speaker 1: not me saying like, hey, if you're going to the festival,
Speaker 1: you should do it. That's everybody's own choice whether they're
Speaker 1: going to do it or not, and not just the
Speaker 1: choice of whether they're going to use, but it's also
Speaker 1: their choice of whether they're going to take the risk
Speaker 1: knowing it's illegal. And that's where Shambala says, we can,
Speaker 1: we can post everywhere we want, but unless you there
Speaker 1: it is it is impossible for us to eliminate all
Speaker 1: drugs from the festival. We wish we could, but we
Speaker 1: also know we can't. Number one. Number two, We also
Speaker 1: wish that people were not lacing drugs. We wish there
Speaker 1: wasn't a massive fentanyl problem. We wish everything was as advertised,
Speaker 1: but it's not. So if we could focus on and
Speaker 1: this is where some people get caught, is they're like,
Speaker 1: don't don't, don't waste my time with harm reduction, figure
Speaker 1: out a way to prevent it. And they've all said,
Speaker 1: I wish we could. I wish we could find a
Speaker 1: way to do it. So they have these this this
Speaker 1: lab set up.
Speaker 2: I'm looking for I lost my place. Oh, here we go.
Speaker 1: They talk about it's an on site drug lab, a
Speaker 1: free drug testing service sanctioned by the festival and the government.
Speaker 1: Last year, seven percent of the five thousand samples tested
Speaker 1: at Shambala contained something unexpected. Hundreds of people every year
Speaker 1: at Shambala need medical attention for drug related problems. In
Speaker 1: twenty seven years, there's been four deaths. Two were drug related,
Speaker 1: including a cocaine overdose in twenty twenty four. One approach
Speaker 1: favors tougher law enforcement.
Speaker 7: Which, by the way, everybody wishes nobody would, nobody would overdose,
Speaker 7: nobody would nobody would have a drug that's laced with
Speaker 7: something that they weren't expecting.
Speaker 1: Like everybody wishes for that. We accept the dangerous realities
Speaker 1: of drug use and trying to reduce the risks. And
Speaker 1: they said the Festival Code of Conduct prohibits illegal substances,
Speaker 1: but the organizers know people are going to use drugs anyway.
Speaker 1: The Festival's chief executive officers said he saw no contradiction here.
Speaker 1: Harm reduction isn't about approving of drug use. It's just
Speaker 1: making sure that if people want to be safe with
Speaker 1: their drug use, will help them.
Speaker 2: So when you go into like one of these little labs.
Speaker 1: So I saw the thing set up, don't think of
Speaker 1: a doctor's office. The one woman that I saw is
Speaker 1: wearing a bikini top. But I don't want to minimize
Speaker 1: that either. She knows what she's doing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a festival.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and she's going to be out there for four days. Also,
Speaker 1: So not only will they test.
Speaker 4: Whatever you bought, so they'll test anything. Yes, as far
Speaker 4: as I know, no drug or substance off limits.
Speaker 1: As far as I listen, I know they're testing LSD.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we bought it.
Speaker 1: The now here we Go had a boy, had a
Speaker 1: boy the no no, So like we know we know
Speaker 1: they're testing LSD, we know they're testing ketamine. We know
Speaker 1: they're testing molly. We know that they're testing cocaine. So
Speaker 1: what I can't imagine what would be off limits? And
Speaker 1: while they're testing it, they are also talking to people
Speaker 1: and saying, listen, do you have experience with this?
Speaker 2: Like have you been?
Speaker 1: And so these the friends, these these friends that purchased
Speaker 1: the ketamine told the person never done it, and the
Speaker 1: woman that they went to see walked them through what
Speaker 1: the expectation should be so that it's not a case
Speaker 1: of you hear this with gummies all the time. Somebody
Speaker 1: who's just trying gummies early on where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: I tried it. It's been ten minutes, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't feel anything, and next thing you know, they eat
Speaker 1: a handful and an hour later they they don't even
Speaker 1: they can't even see their bodies. So they're like, listen,
Speaker 1: this is going to take a little bit.
Speaker 4: Do some people get the explanation and decide not to consume?
Speaker 2: They say do do do do they consume? They say no,
Speaker 2: they say yes.
Speaker 1: Now some people, some people, some people will get and
Speaker 1: go like you know what that is not wasn't expecting
Speaker 1: that that's not for me. They also said that there
Speaker 1: are some people that will.
Speaker 2: Oh.
Speaker 1: The other thing that you could get is almost like dispensers,
Speaker 1: so that if you if you were going to do cocaine,
Speaker 1: that they'll offer a couple of things a smaller like
Speaker 1: a way to say like I'm only going to do
Speaker 1: a small amount.
Speaker 3: Look at the line clean straws.
Speaker 2: If you're gonna snort the sign here, yeah, and there
Speaker 2: are there are.
Speaker 1: Some people there, and listen, I get it. There's some
Speaker 1: people who are very against this, and I may be
Speaker 1: on the wrong side.
Speaker 2: I think it's genius. I really do.
Speaker 8: So.
Speaker 4: Is the food dye for snorting?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry?
Speaker 4: What it says for the harm reduction supplies that you
Speaker 4: can get next to the testing tent, ear plugs okay, oh,
Speaker 4: I'm just in line, ear plugs, condoms, lube, dental dams,
Speaker 4: syringe barrels, shirt dosage, oh, food dye for GHB marking,
Speaker 4: straws for safer snorting right, and nasal spray bottles.
Speaker 2: So I believe.
Speaker 1: I believe like you understand the syringe thing, you understand
Speaker 1: the straws thing bottles for for snorty, I get that.
Speaker 1: The only thing I can think of is is the
Speaker 1: is the food?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: What is it? What did you say?
Speaker 4: What food die for gh marking?
Speaker 1: Is that to be able to like test with like
Speaker 1: almost like a what is that called the litmus test?
Speaker 2: Is that to be able to test myself? I don't know. Users.
Speaker 4: That's written Users is written add distinctive food coloring to
Speaker 4: personal supply so it is visibly distinct from water or
Speaker 4: clear mixers. Preventing accidental ingestion.
Speaker 1: So it's it's a do it yourself test kit, or
Speaker 1: if I'm dealing, I can also show look my stuff's clean.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't think it's testing anything. It's just it's
Speaker 4: to label.
Speaker 2: Oh, okay, there you go, perfect. I like it.
Speaker 3: A pair of your plugs please, it's very loud.
Speaker 1: Am I am I wrong? I think this is genius.
Speaker 1: And again I understand where people would say.
Speaker 2: Stupid is.
Speaker 4: Do they put any numbers, uh to how many people
Speaker 4: maybe come to this festival with no intent.
Speaker 1: Of partaking and then end up doing And then I
Speaker 1: don't know what those numbers are. I don't know what
Speaker 1: those numbers are. But here's what I could promise you.
Speaker 1: That happens at every festival. Yeah that's true, that happens
Speaker 1: at every festival.
Speaker 4: But you just may feel more comfortable here with all
Speaker 4: of these levels of protection.
Speaker 2: But if you were going to be I wasn't going
Speaker 2: to do anything. But now I am. Yeah, oh one
Speaker 2: hundred percent, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3: Let's get caught up in the atmosphere and right you.
Speaker 4: Can show up look at the river that runs through
Speaker 4: the festival grounds.
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at Elliott there. I am the no.
Speaker 1: No, But but like think about it, I would never
Speaker 1: I would never pick a festival, pick any festival. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't show up in Chicago and go to Lallapaloo's and go, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, here's something I've never done before snort
Speaker 1: cocaine this weekend. But I can promise you there's somebody
Speaker 1: who did. Somebody showed up at Lollapalooza this weekend who's
Speaker 1: never done, who's never done cocaine before, and was like
Speaker 1: and started getting into it and was going to do it.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you rather be able to test it? I would?
Speaker 4: No, You're definitely right. I can't say if I can't
Speaker 4: say that's the mindset of everybody. But if it was me, yes.
Speaker 1: If it was me, yes, I would almost look at
Speaker 1: it and go, why wouldn't I test it? If I
Speaker 1: just bought it from somebody and there's no way, and
Speaker 1: especially especially as times have changed, There was a time.
Speaker 1: There was a time and maybe maybe it's twofold, maybe
Speaker 1: it was just young and dumb where.
Speaker 2: I didn't care.
Speaker 1: The idea of getting something tested never crossed mind, and
Speaker 1: the idea that it was going to be laced with
Speaker 1: something never crossed my mind.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's just young and dumb.
Speaker 1: But also back then it wasn't as big as a
Speaker 1: problem of everything getting laced yeah yeah, and everything being
Speaker 1: either more potent than it's advertised, cut with so many
Speaker 1: different things. So it wasn't It wasn't as it didn't
Speaker 1: happen as often, or it certainly wasn't known about as often.
Speaker 2: So maybe it's a combination of the two.
Speaker 1: But if I rolled into Lollapalooza last weekend it was like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know what, why not?
Speaker 2: And I had the the it would scare me, It
Speaker 2: really would.
Speaker 4: Garth writes. I don't know if this is true or not,
Speaker 4: but Garth says the ear plug is can we pre
Speaker 4: for psychedelics that make you hypersensitive?
Speaker 3: Oh? To sounds? Oh that's a good at a very
Speaker 3: loud festival.
Speaker 2: I would believe.
Speaker 9: That range Is this all about the festival?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: I think this the song predates the festival?
Speaker 4: Right? So isn't isn't Shambala? Isn't it like any Maybe
Speaker 4: a Buddhist or not?
Speaker 2: Probably misreligion did do not?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: It is it?
Speaker 4: A mythical hidden kingdom in Tibetan Buddhist tradition.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know we've.
Speaker 4: Had a twenty minute discussion a drugs. Oh god, I
Speaker 4: don't want to lose my woke status.
Speaker 2: Wait, so am I? Am I pronouncing it wrong? It's
Speaker 2: not shambalad sham bealag.
Speaker 4: That's how Three Dog Nights said it.
Speaker 2: All right, I believe Jimmy Greenspoon. Yep, I believe Jimmy
Speaker 2: Greenspoon probably did some drugs.
Speaker 4: Oh, he would support this.
Speaker 2: Where am I going? Kristen Line one, Hi Joy.
Speaker 9: At the morning?
Speaker 8: Hello? Who's this?
Speaker 9: Hey?
Speaker 2: Yes, this is Elliot. Who's this?
Speaker 8: This is? This is Matt and Burke.
Speaker 2: Yes, sir. What can I do for you?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 8: Nothing? I was just calling in to talk to you
Speaker 8: about testing drugs. Dance Safe has been around since nineteen
Speaker 8: ninety eight testing drugs. I tested some in Detroit in
Speaker 8: twenty thirteen at the Movement Festival.
Speaker 2: Okay, so back up for a second. What the what
Speaker 2: what did what company? Did you say?
Speaker 8: It's a nonprofit called Dance Safe. They've been around since
Speaker 8: about nineteen ninety eight. I've been into the rave culture
Speaker 8: in DC since about the mid nineties, and like I
Speaker 8: helped promote for buzz and stuff like testing drugs has
Speaker 8: been around for a while actually for the exact reasons
Speaker 8: you said.
Speaker 1: But is this is this a case where so like
Speaker 1: Dance Safe, like you said, like you got something tested
Speaker 1: in Detroit or whatever it was.
Speaker 2: They would show up and listen. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: Is the difference between that and then the Shambala festival
Speaker 1: is that this one is like for Shambala, it's it's
Speaker 1: sanctioned through the festival and the government with Dance Safe,
Speaker 1: just just like I don't want to say a bunch
Speaker 1: of volunteers showing up trying to do a good thing,
Speaker 1: but where the festival is saying no, no, no, we are
Speaker 1: going to offer this.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, no, You're absolutely correct. I think because in
Speaker 8: British Columbia they're a little bit more open about use
Speaker 8: and stuff that they actually want to make it safe.
Speaker 8: Here in the US, we passed the RAVAC, so it's
Speaker 8: really hard for like promoters and organizers to help people
Speaker 8: facilitate their fun is the best way I can put it.
Speaker 8: Any Way, you associate or help somebody get a illegal
Speaker 8: substance at a festival or a club, now you're associated
Speaker 8: by guilt in America. So I'm assuming the British Columbia government,
Speaker 8: who is pretty open with drug use and things like that,
Speaker 8: want to make the festival and dancing a little safer.
Speaker 2: So right, well, and that kind.
Speaker 1: Of goes back to what they're saying that, like nobody
Speaker 1: at the festival is encouraging anybody to do drugs, and
Speaker 1: they are saying it's it's it is illegal, like you,
Speaker 1: you are not to do that. But we're also not
Speaker 1: going to put our head in the sand and pretend
Speaker 1: that it doesn't exist and it's not going on.
Speaker 8: Truly absolutely correct, because there's somebody that's been partying, raving
Speaker 8: and just partied last weekend at Bertha to see DC.
Speaker 8: It still happens to this day in twenty twenty six.
Speaker 8: It's no different than it was thirty years ago, So
Speaker 8: why don't we make it safe? Why don't we make
Speaker 8: it accessible?
Speaker 2: And the other thing, the other thing that I don't
Speaker 2: want to do.
Speaker 1: And I understand that you're part of the rave culture,
Speaker 1: right and that's fine, No, No, I have no problem
Speaker 1: with that.
Speaker 2: I just the other thing that I would say is
Speaker 2: I don't want it.
Speaker 1: I don't want this this program, if you will, or
Speaker 1: whatever you call it, to just be associated with the
Speaker 1: a rave scene or a rave festival, because absolutely, it
Speaker 1: doesn't just happen at rave festivals in the Resolutely, it's
Speaker 1: everywhere you.
Speaker 2: Could go to.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, you can go to a country festival, a rock festival.
Speaker 2: I don't care.
Speaker 1: I can promise you it's all being done.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I completely agree with you there, there's not there's
Speaker 8: there's not an instant that people aren't trying to have
Speaker 8: a good time, So why don't we try and make
Speaker 8: it as safe as possible for people?
Speaker 2: But I do like.
Speaker 1: That, and listen, I do, even though I don't agree
Speaker 1: with the view of being against it, I understand their point.
Speaker 2: I really do.
Speaker 1: So it's not like I'm saying, like, oh, they're stupid
Speaker 1: and they're dumb. I understand their point. I would just
Speaker 1: I would just rather go this way.
Speaker 2: I like.
Speaker 1: I like them saying that that whole harm reduction angle,
Speaker 1: I really do.
Speaker 8: I agree with you completely right there, Elliott. The harm
Speaker 8: reduction is what it is is. I completely agree to
Speaker 8: I understand their point of view. You know, nobody wants
Speaker 8: drunk drivers, but we need a program to reduce the
Speaker 8: harm because we know people are going to go out
Speaker 8: and drink. Right, It's the same principle with drugs, So yeah,
Speaker 8: I agree with you completely.
Speaker 2: All right, did you all see the rave?
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'll see you there. Have a great day class.
Speaker 2: Later, dude.
Speaker 4: Yes, Tyler from Instagram. The last festival I went to,
Speaker 4: there were party favorite dealers but also former drug dealers
Speaker 4: who were selling fentanyl testers. So I guess the strips right,
Speaker 4: two people at the At the festival, they also had
Speaker 4: some sort of lab where you could get items tested
Speaker 4: on site. This is better, I guess, back in my
Speaker 4: day than where the only form of testing was them
Speaker 4: giving you a sample. Right there as a small bumper
Speaker 4: line of coke.
Speaker 1: Which, by the way, we were always warned against. We
Speaker 1: were always warned against that.
Speaker 4: What the taste tests.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the person who would let you sample a little bit,
Speaker 1: because that's not ultimately what you're getting. Like, you know
Speaker 1: what that reminds me of? You know what that reminds
Speaker 1: me of. I'll take it completely away from the drug scene.
Speaker 1: The scam that went around forever, and I think Beviloqua
Speaker 1: got wrapped up in it where it was gold shavings
Speaker 1: and they were like, we'll sell you a gold bar,
Speaker 1: go test the shavings and you go test the shavings
Speaker 1: at like a gold dealer, and you come back and go, well,
Speaker 1: these are legit.
Speaker 3: And then and they would.
Speaker 1: Scrape a little bit off like they were like putting
Speaker 1: parmesan cheese on your pasta.
Speaker 2: But then you would get a bogus gold brick. Same thing.
Speaker 1: It'd be like, here, test some of my cocaine. And
Speaker 1: then you test and you're like, oh, this is legit,
Speaker 1: and that's not what you end up with. I don't
Speaker 1: I'm not a huge fan of but she's right back
Speaker 1: in the day that you would you would get that
Speaker 1: all the time.
Speaker 2: Well, here you want to sample it.
Speaker 4: I think the listeners saying this is certainly better than that, oh,
Speaker 4: way better than that. And then another DM that says
Speaker 4: these groups maybe setup festivals that offer the the fentanyl
Speaker 4: testing strips for free. I definitely researched this before my
Speaker 4: kid went into electric forest.
Speaker 2: I will say this, and I.
Speaker 1: Can applaud the people that are I don't like that
Speaker 1: they're selling the strips, but I get it, and I
Speaker 1: get that they're trying to help. I do like going
Speaker 1: the step further, Like listen, I could show a bitt
Speaker 1: A festival and say I'm selling strips. I don't know
Speaker 1: the first thing about selling strips. I don't know the
Speaker 1: first thing about it. Right, that lab does.
Speaker 2: Like I like, I just I like this security.
Speaker 1: Now there are also maybe people that will think and
Speaker 1: maybe this is the other problem of would somebody be
Speaker 1: afraid to approach the lab and thinking like, oh great,
Speaker 1: now they know.
Speaker 2: Now they know.
Speaker 3: There's a cop waiting for me somewhere.
Speaker 1: I've got i've got LSD on me, I've got ketamine
Speaker 1: on me, I've got Molly on me. I'm gonna walk away,
Speaker 1: and some undercover guys gonna grab me.
Speaker 4: Especially when you're telling concertgoers it's illegal.
Speaker 1: Right, So maybe that does prevent some people. And by
Speaker 1: the way, in that lab, it's not just the lab
Speaker 1: that they.
Speaker 4: Have, so they're doing more than just test strips.
Speaker 1: Well no, but but I told you, they're also doing
Speaker 1: like like they're talking to people, right, They're having conversations
Speaker 1: with people about I know you're going to do this,
Speaker 1: but be smart. Here's how ketamine works in your system.
Speaker 1: Here's how you've never done LSD. Here's how it's going
Speaker 1: to work in your system. They also have a twelve
Speaker 1: bed field hospital run by an emergency room doctor staff
Speaker 1: by thirty physicians, roaming teams of harm reduction counselors, and
Speaker 1: an area called the Sanctuary with fifty hammocks and mattresses
Speaker 1: for people who were having bad trips and are find
Speaker 1: themselves in harm's way.
Speaker 4: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so Tyler's using for the first time that. Now
Speaker 1: that we're at no I could walk about. You know,
Speaker 1: they talked to They were talking to somebody whose buddy
Speaker 1: got jacked up at the show. I got totally messed up, right,
Speaker 1: and climbed up on top of something and tried to
Speaker 1: jump from one thing to another, broke his foot, and
Speaker 1: they were they didn't know he's having a he's having
Speaker 1: a bad moment. I should take him and just lay
Speaker 1: him down at this sanctuary area so they'll be safe
Speaker 1: for a couple hours.
Speaker 4: A follow up, duh, Elliott l L. You make sure
Speaker 4: the sample you got came out of the bag that
Speaker 4: you were buying, right.
Speaker 2: And you know who tried that once? I did, and
Speaker 2: it wasn't the same.
Speaker 4: A sleight of hand.
Speaker 1: I okay, well there, their hand was better than mine.
Speaker 2: Now I can tell you, I can tell you exactly
Speaker 2: where it was.
Speaker 1: Where it was right outside of Madison Square Garden for
Speaker 1: a Grateful Dead show and no, no, and I did.
Speaker 1: I ended up buying weed from some guy for the
Speaker 1: show and he was like, no, I'll give you a sample,
Speaker 1: and I did, and ended up buying weed some lace
Speaker 1: with cocaine. It was a horrible night. Well, let me rephrase,
Speaker 1: it was a horrible morning. The night was great, So
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: It was Victor Reza, uh, the dealer and with slight
Speaker 2: a hand.
Speaker 4: Let's not
Speaker 2: A magician, A magician, A magician