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We got state championships coming up on 16 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: the am dialable tonight and tomorrow night at seven o'clock, 17 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 3: we got some. 18 00:00:57,160 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 2: College football to talk is. 19 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:02,880 Speaker 3: We'll replay the the meaty parts of the Jedfish interview 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: that'll be coming up at four o'clock and will allow 21 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: you to respond to that. We'll get our takes on 22 00:01:07,600 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: what Jed had to say to Softy and I a 23 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,040 Speaker 3: couple of days ago, and then of course we will 24 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 3: start with the Seattle Seahawks here in the three o'clock 25 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: hours they get set to take on the Falcons, and 26 00:01:17,520 --> 00:01:21,399 Speaker 3: Hugh Breed love Millon, former Atlanta Falcon quarterback Hugh Breed 27 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 3: love Millon, joins us here on nine three point three 28 00:01:23,959 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 3: kJ R. If I'm not exactly you're the most glamorous 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,920 Speaker 3: years of your NFL career, would you say that's a 30 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: fair well? 31 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 4: I was a backup, started three games one two of them. 32 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:34,640 Speaker 3: Thanks. 33 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I probably have a higher win percentage in a couple. 34 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:38,520 Speaker 2: Of those guys. 35 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 5: But I enjoyed Atlanta. I don't think it's dripping with 36 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 5: fervor for the NFL game. You know, you always had 37 00:01:49,920 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 5: to sense that Athens, what was happening up up north 38 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,960 Speaker 5: to the Northeast was a little bit more top of mind. 39 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: But you know, I think Seattle is going to benefit 40 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 5: from a rowlatively benign environment. 41 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think there's any question about that. 42 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 3: And you know, I don't know if we can learn 43 00:02:06,440 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 3: much of anything from this game. If the Seahawks go 44 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: in and win by twenty or twenty one points, I'm 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:14,440 Speaker 3: not sure what you can learn from that game. I'm 46 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 3: not sure what you learn from last game against Minnesota. 47 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 3: You know, there's been so many of these games this year, 48 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 3: and it's just a testament to you know, how dominant, 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:26,640 Speaker 3: particularly this defense has been, Hugh that you just there's 50 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 3: been so few angst ridden moments this Seahawks season, which 51 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:36,160 Speaker 3: is totally foreign to us because even when Pete Carroll 52 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 3: had good teams, the way Pete Carroll kind of coached 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 3: was you were probably gonna have a one score game 54 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. So even on those Seahawk teams 55 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 3: that won eleven, twelve, thirteen games, there are a lot 56 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 3: of games where we didn't know the outcome until there 57 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 3: was three four minutes left to go in the game. 58 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 2: And this year it's been we've been really fortunate. 59 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 3: We've been rolling to some big time wins very early 60 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: in football. 61 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 5: Games, you're early, and of course last week and and 62 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 5: by the way, when you go epa per play defensively, 63 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 5: which is kind of an emerging stat that we were 64 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 5: talking about more and more because because we're realizing the correlation. Uh, 65 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 5: the game against the Vikings was the number one EPA 66 00:03:16,880 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 5: for the season for the Seahawks. Defensively, but it was 67 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:23,680 Speaker 5: higher than any game that the LOB had in their 68 00:03:23,800 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 5: entire four year stretch where they led the NFL in 69 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:30,760 Speaker 5: fewest points allowed. The best they ever had was was 70 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 5: in twenty fourteen against John Skelton of the Cardinals. Yeah, yeah, 71 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 5: so you know they were they're playing subpart of quarterbacks 72 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 5: back then as well. But but there's never been a 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 5: seven game stretch like Seattle's had. It's the highest uh 74 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 5: EPA per played defensively that Uh well, I haven't, I haven't. 75 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: You know, trace it back to ninety two. I just 76 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 5: went the four years of the LOB, right those four years, 77 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 5: and you knows number one in that regard. And they 78 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 5: bounced back by the way, their LOB of negative three 79 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 5: point sixty three against the Buccaneers was worse than any 80 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 5: game the LOB ever had. The worst the LBA ever 81 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 5: had was a negative two to sixty three. So that 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 5: to me speaks to Mike McDonald just having that weird 83 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 5: aberration of a game against the Buccaneers. Now there was 84 00:04:22,440 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 5: only seven starters before we're out, and yet the way 85 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 5: they have bounced back and just been dominant. But you 86 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:31,800 Speaker 5: know things are going to pick up dick on the 87 00:04:31,800 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 5: schedule because because Seattle remaining schedule, this is the last 88 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:40,159 Speaker 5: quote unquote easy game right now as it sits, the 89 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 5: Seattle has the fourth most difficult strength to schedule at 90 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:47,520 Speaker 5: five ninety seven, tied with the Bears. Only the Colts, 91 00:04:47,560 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 5: Packers and Chargers have a more difficult schedule to close 92 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 5: out the season. And the Rams they're sitting back there 93 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 5: at twenty sixth in that capacity. So Seattle can four 94 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 5: to kick one and certainly can't kick one this sun. 95 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 2: No, they can't. And you mentioned the analytics of the 96 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: EPA per play. 97 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 3: I mean we have a DVOA as well that analyzes 98 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,559 Speaker 3: these teams. In Seattle's right now is thirty nine point seven, 99 00:05:12,560 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 3: which means the according to this analytic, they're thirty nine 100 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,960 Speaker 3: point seven percent better than the you know, dead average 101 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 3: team in the NFL. How does that compare whether they're 102 00:05:22,200 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 3: number one in the NFL? The Rams are number two 103 00:05:25,360 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 3: at two percentage points behind them at thirty seven point three. 104 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 3: India is third at way back at thirty point nine. 105 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:36,039 Speaker 3: So there's there's a huge gap between the Seahawks, Rams 106 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 3: and the rest of the NFL in this analytic and 107 00:05:39,160 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: the thirty nine point seven that the Seahawks right now 108 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,839 Speaker 3: would be the fourteenth highest in the history of the 109 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 3: NFL thirty nine point seven, Meaning the Seahawks are that 110 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 3: much better, according to this analytic than the rest of 111 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 3: the field. And that led me, you know, seeing that, 112 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: Hugh led me to this poll question I threw out 113 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 3: yesterday and I talked to Jackson about it, and. 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 2: I want to want to ask you you this too. 115 00:06:01,880 --> 00:06:05,800 Speaker 3: If there are these, at least analytically two dominant teams 116 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 3: in football, and Seattle and the Rams, both in the 117 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:13,160 Speaker 3: same division, and they're also by Vegas, the two biggest favorites, 118 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 3: LA at plus four to fifty Seattle at plus seven 119 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 3: to fifty, nobody else is less than plus one thousand 120 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:20,680 Speaker 3: to win. 121 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 2: The Super Bowl? 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: Would you take right now if you were handed door 123 00:06:25,520 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 3: number one, I'm gonna give you the Seahawks and the 124 00:06:28,200 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: Rams to win the Super Bowl? Or door number two, 125 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you the other thirty teams in the NFL. 126 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 3: Which would you Which would you vote for? 127 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 5: I'd probably take the field just playing out the stats, 128 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 5: I mean, I think as you outline the math in that. 129 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:44,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still not fifty to fifty. 130 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: Really at the CEAH. 131 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 5: So the Rams and Seahawks don't reach the fifty percent threshold. 132 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 5: So you know, I mean because obviously that that leaves 133 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 5: every team in the AFC alive. You know, I think 134 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 5: that the Eagles, the way they play defense and they've 135 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 5: got kind of got a way of play in the 136 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:04,320 Speaker 5: snow and inclement weather, they could rise up and play 137 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,680 Speaker 5: you know, ugly ball, but beat you. So I think 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 5: the goal for Seattle, you know, you know, your last 139 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 5: game is against the forty nine ers on January fourth. 140 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 5: When you hit get in that plane, there's only three objectives. 141 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 5: How many games did you win? And what's your seeding? 142 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 5: Hopefully that'll be high. Hopefully, see I'll be the NFC 143 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 5: West champions have a high seat. Hopefully their number one 144 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 5: seed that's suttainable. How healthy are they and on some 145 00:07:28,520 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 5: level do they feel like they're peaking? I think it's 146 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,280 Speaker 5: very difficult. If we think back through the years, there 147 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 5: are very few teams that can can peak and just 148 00:07:38,400 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 5: ride a big old, you know, sixty foot wave all 149 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,600 Speaker 5: the way through this season. I mean the first half 150 00:07:45,600 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 5: of the first month. The Bill it was the Bills 151 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 5: right October is saying, oh, look at the Colts. They 152 00:07:51,400 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 5: get the Colts were the best team. Everybody, every dog 153 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: the good teams. It's like that the dog has their 154 00:07:57,640 --> 00:08:03,239 Speaker 5: month in the sunshine roughly and then it's it's hard 155 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 5: to kind of keep all. It's like a British sports car, 156 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 5: you know in the old days. You know some of 157 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: those Austome Martins. They would really per but they could 158 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 5: they could get out a tune really quick. And so 159 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 5: I think that most teams through the years, I mean 160 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 5: I was on a Cowboy team in the back of 161 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 5: the bus. Troy was driving it, so I was just 162 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 5: in the back of the bus just watching. But you know, 163 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 5: that was one of you know, a team that, hey, 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 5: you could just be the best. Everybody knows it. From 165 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 5: September and every month. You don't really see that much anymore. 166 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 5: Certainly you don't see that this year. And I think 167 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 5: I think that for Seattle have a little bit of 168 00:08:37,800 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 5: a little offensively fine, there's still a chance to recrest. 169 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,960 Speaker 5: You know, we played twelve games. Sam Darnold had had 170 00:08:46,120 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 5: one hundred and sixteen passer rating average in the first 171 00:08:49,800 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 5: six games, ninety three in the second six games. So 172 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 5: he's he's kind of he's kind of had a little dip, 173 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 5: but now we can we can kind of bounce and 174 00:08:58,040 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 5: rebound and and reach reached the heights, hopefully peaking going 175 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 5: going into early January. 176 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 3: Is it easier to stay consistent at least winning when 177 00:09:07,040 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: you are a defensive dominated team. You've always used the 178 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 3: reference defense as a beehive and offense as a symphony. 179 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 3: I would think it's easier for that Aston Martin to 180 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: get out of tune offensively versus out of tune defensively. 181 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 2: Is that fair? 182 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 5: I think so? 183 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I think so. 184 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 5: Uh And and you know, you saw a little bit 185 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 5: of a of a I'm gonna call it a blessing 186 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 5: what happened with the Vikings and and and how they 187 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 5: kind of got pantsed with with respect to their blitz 188 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 5: pick up and some of their assignments. So I'm anticipating, 189 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:43,199 Speaker 5: excuse me, I'm anticipating that they they spent extra time 190 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 5: in the walkthroughs, extra time in the meetings. They tightened 191 00:09:45,840 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 5: up their their operation with how to handle when when 192 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 5: a defense comes up and lines up five to six 193 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:55,760 Speaker 5: across the board and seven across the board, and and 194 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 5: they're playing zone behind it. Generally you don't know who's blitzing, 195 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 5: and so they're limiting the big plays as the Vikings 196 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:08,119 Speaker 5: were because they're playing zone not man behind these pressures, 197 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 5: and you know, it kind of caught Seattle on aware. 198 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 5: I think that they realized at halftime, Hey, let's just 199 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 5: limp through the rest of this game, Max Brosmer is 200 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 5: not going to beat us, and we'll we'll win, you know, 201 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:24,080 Speaker 5: a muck mucked up game. And then we've got our 202 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 5: our six days to get our house in order with 203 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:29,959 Speaker 5: respect to these blitzes, because you're going to see a 204 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:33,319 Speaker 5: little bit of the same stuff from Raheem Morrise on Sunday. 205 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 3: There's no question about it. And you know, just to 206 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:37,319 Speaker 3: kind of close the door on the analytics. I was 207 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 3: spitting out with the d v o A because I 208 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 3: think some people might be listening. 209 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 2: Some of them was thinking to say. 210 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,599 Speaker 3: Okay, what is what is dv O d v O 211 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 3: A matter like does did do you win Super Bowls? 212 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 2: If you're number one in dv O A. 213 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 3: Well, I took the last you know, in the last 214 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 3: four season, just a small sample set of the last 215 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 3: four years, and I just looked at the top what 216 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,280 Speaker 3: were the top five d v O A teams at 217 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 3: the end of the regular season. And so you had 218 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,120 Speaker 3: eight one seeds over the last four years, you've had 219 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,559 Speaker 3: eight eight two seeds over the last four years, you've 220 00:11:05,559 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 3: had eight Super Bowl participants, and you've had four Super 221 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 3: Bowl champions. Well, how many of those teams were actually 222 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,199 Speaker 3: in the top five DVOA at the end of the 223 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 3: regular season. All four Super Bowl champions, four for four, 224 00:11:17,200 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 3: were top five DVOA. Six of the eight Super Bowl 225 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 3: participants were top five DVA, six of the eight one 226 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 3: seeds were top five DWA, and six of the eight 227 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 3: two seeds were top five. 228 00:11:29,480 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 2: So it doesn't mean nothing, It. 229 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 3: Might not mean everything, for sure, there is definitely a 230 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 3: correlation there, so I think right now, and if you 231 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:41,959 Speaker 3: look at what this team has done compared to other 232 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: great Seahawks teams, you know that the in two thousand 233 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: and five, if you just look at forget the analytics 234 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 3: and just look at point scored versus in points allowed. 235 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 3: You know, in two thousand and five they were second 236 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 3: in offense, seventh in defense, so solid in both. In 237 00:11:58,520 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: twenty thirteen they were ninth in offense, number one in defense. 238 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 3: Twenty fourteen they were tenth in offense, number one in defense. 239 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:09,560 Speaker 3: Twenty twelve they were ninth in offense, number one in defense, 240 00:12:09,679 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 3: and again they're top five in. 241 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 2: Both this year. 242 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 3: So the years that we have had top ten in 243 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 3: both offense and defense, they have been Super Bowl seasons 244 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:23,720 Speaker 3: or in the case of you know, twenty twelve, nearly 245 00:12:23,840 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 3: super Bowl seasons. I mean, is this is this team 246 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 3: that good? Does this team compare to in your opinion, 247 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 3: those top three or four teams we've ever seen this 248 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 3: franchise have. 249 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 5: I think it certainly has the potential. I mean, they're 250 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 5: gonna have to do it. We're gonna have to see 251 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 5: December eighteenth, let's on the nineteenth. Let's have this discussion 252 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:46,960 Speaker 5: in earnest. But you know, I think there's been a 253 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 5: feeling that the defense can be epic and just pull 254 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,480 Speaker 5: the offense along. And when you're getting everybody healthy, you 255 00:12:56,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 5: got young guys like Emon Worried Now that are just 256 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:04,160 Speaker 5: making a big impact, Byron Murphy and you know, Leonard Williams. 257 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: I just hope that you know, to me, there's this 258 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 5: kind of this nexus of of opportunity where you got 259 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:12,560 Speaker 5: all this youth and Seattle is I know, in the 260 00:13:12,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: top five youngest. I think that I think it's fifth 261 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 5: by the average ranking. They're the fifth youngest team in 262 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 5: the NFL. And I just feel like the defense is 263 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 5: confused with so much youth, but Leonard Williams is the 264 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:27,839 Speaker 5: best player, right. So it's it's kind of this odd 265 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,560 Speaker 5: dichotomy that from a timing standpoint. We talk about this 266 00:13:30,640 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: a lot in baseball. Hey, you know, are we still 267 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,840 Speaker 5: going to have the pitching staff when it hits with 268 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 5: the with the with the lineup, and and I look 269 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,880 Speaker 5: at the defense and I say, okay, strike while the 270 00:13:41,880 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 5: iron's hot. You know, you did things like sheahed you know, 271 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 5: fourth and a fifth is a lot for a s 272 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 5: that's got to pick up, you know. But that to 273 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 5: me was kind of a move, like, hey, we're in 274 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,079 Speaker 5: that window. We see what Sam Darnold is. He's twenty 275 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 5: eight years old, he's he's figured how to play this 276 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 5: game defensively. 277 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 4: They are so talented. 278 00:14:01,240 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 5: And and and yet it's to me that that window 279 00:14:03,559 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 5: of Leonard Williams, and I know there's Jared Reid and 280 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,559 Speaker 5: there's exceptions, but basically to me, it's Leonard Williams as 281 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:14,319 Speaker 5: the star, and who's an older player surrounded by all 282 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 5: this youth. You know, the next five best players on 283 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 5: the defense are all really young, and and so I 284 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 5: just want to, you know, hit that window where you 285 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,760 Speaker 5: have Leonard Williams along with all this great youth. But 286 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:31,640 Speaker 5: it's fun to watch Weatherspoon is an elite, uh competitor, 287 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,880 Speaker 5: and now he's matched, you know, with with Eamon Worry 288 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 5: us as those young guys as what we called nickel 289 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 5: overhang defenders in the slot. 290 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:41,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'm glad you mentioned the D line. I think 291 00:14:41,600 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 3: they're finally getting the press they deserve. They certainly didn't 292 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 3: get a lot of press back in the lob. I mean, 293 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 3: the secondary sucked up a lot of that. Bobby Wagner 294 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 3: and kJ Wright sucked up a lot of that press. 295 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 3: But they still had really you know, they have really 296 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 3: solid defensive lines with the Frank Clarks and the Bruce's 297 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 3: and the Cliff Averrils, Chris Clemmens, I mean, Michael Bennett. 298 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 3: They had really solid defensive linemen. And Bob Candota today 299 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:10,600 Speaker 3: wrote a pretty expansive peace kind of comparing this defensive 300 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,280 Speaker 3: line of Leonard Williams fifth out of one hundred and 301 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 3: twenty nine Interior defensive Lineman by PFF Byron Murphy nineteenth. 302 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:22,600 Speaker 2: The interior defensive lineman pass rush winwait win rate. 303 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 3: Boy Mafe is fifth, You Chennis twentieth, Derek Calls twenty 304 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 3: ninth out of one hundred and fourteen guys. I mean, 305 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:31,560 Speaker 3: these guys are all in the top quartile at the 306 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 3: very least in pass rush win wait rate. How do 307 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,880 Speaker 3: you view this line versus what you saw in the past, 308 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 3: maybe ten years ago, with those championship lines. 309 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 5: Oh, this defensive line's the best we've seen. You'd have 310 00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 5: to go back to Cortes, Kennedy and I don't have 311 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,720 Speaker 5: you know, I'd have to refresh my memory on those. 312 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: It was older Nash. 313 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 3: It was an older Nash, An, older Bryant, Cortes, Tony Woods, Rufus. 314 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 4: But really good. You know I was playing at the time. 315 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 4: I don't quite remember all that. 316 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 5: I'll just say that, you know, you've got the homegrown 317 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 5: best team in five You've got the lesion of Boom 318 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 5: and there's no question this is the best defensive line. 319 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 5: I think even Carol and Mike would would concede that point. 320 00:16:18,160 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 5: This defensive line, what they can do. And you know 321 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 5: what's interesting to me in this regard, it's just so 322 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 5: much of what Mike McDonald is doing is mirroring what 323 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 5: he did in Baltimore when his last year twenty twenty three, 324 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:36,040 Speaker 5: the Ravens were number one and fewest points allowed by 325 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 5: the defense, number one in turnovers, and number one in sacks. 326 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 5: They were number one in sacks. And here was their 327 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: defensive ends. Kyle van Noy, I believe was thirty two 328 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 5: years old on his sixteen, Jadevian Clowney was maybe thirty one. 329 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: Both of them were over thirty and on his fifteen. 330 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:58,080 Speaker 5: So they didn't have they didn't have a Miles Garrett right, 331 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 5: they didn't have a Nick Bosa, they didn't have a 332 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 5: rock star defensive end around which they could build their 333 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,800 Speaker 5: pass rush. They had just kind of pedestrian dudes as 334 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,040 Speaker 5: the defensive ends. And the defensive ends in theory, you know, 335 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 5: if you have a four man rush, the defensive ends 336 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,040 Speaker 5: are the guys that are carrying the They have to 337 00:17:14,080 --> 00:17:16,720 Speaker 5: carry the water to get to the quarterback right for 338 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 5: the team. And so so what McDonald has been able 339 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:24,960 Speaker 5: to do is he's generating all this chaos and I 340 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 5: think I think his defensive ends are solid above the 341 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 5: median guys. The tackles, I think are better relatively than 342 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,240 Speaker 5: the edge guys, but the edge guys have lots of depth, 343 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 5: so uh and and now that they're healthy, I think 344 00:17:40,720 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 5: that's been an important piece because there was a time 345 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 5: there where when even when they were great, their fourth 346 00:17:45,600 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 5: quarter numbers were dipping and possibly because of fatigue. But 347 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 5: now you get MafA and Nuoso and everybody back healthy. 348 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 5: So even though they don't have star power at the 349 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 5: defensive end, they they make up for it with depth 350 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 5: and and then of course they make up with the 351 00:18:01,560 --> 00:18:04,680 Speaker 5: scheme and all the exotics and all the You know, 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:07,280 Speaker 5: Mike McDonald's just trying to get a quarterback to think 353 00:18:07,320 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 5: for an extra fourth of a second, extra third of 354 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 5: a second, yep, and and get his eyes in the 355 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 5: wrong place for literally a fraction of a second. And 356 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:18,760 Speaker 5: he has a grasp enough about defense to know the 357 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:20,879 Speaker 5: impact that's going to create, and he's been creating it 358 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 5: without the superstars at the end position. 359 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 3: Well, and you mentioned I remember when when Mike McDonald 360 00:18:26,280 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 3: took the job. There are two things that stuck out 361 00:18:28,320 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 3: that I heard from you. One was, this guy is 362 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:34,720 Speaker 3: as great a defensive mind as there is, and he 363 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:36,879 Speaker 3: will turn this defense around right away. 364 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 2: Well, check he has done that. 365 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 3: The second thing you mentioned was this, and correct me 366 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,200 Speaker 3: if I'm misquoting you. You better win quick because eventually 367 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald's stuff will get figured out and he will 368 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 3: have to adjust. Is that I mean kind of talk 369 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: into what I think that you said there. 370 00:18:57,800 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 2: It's like that. 371 00:18:58,480 --> 00:19:00,880 Speaker 3: That's almost like Mike McDonald going to be his best 372 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 3: Mike McDonald over the light, over the like the first 373 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 3: three years that he's head coach. 374 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that to your first point in watching 375 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:12,359 Speaker 5: what he had done in Baltimore in year one, which 376 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 5: was twenty twenty two, if you go halfway through the season, 377 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 5: he in all those stats he was in the Ravens 378 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 5: were ranked in the twenties. Because it's a complex defense. 379 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:26,439 Speaker 5: So I said in year one, don't expect it to 380 00:19:26,520 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 5: happen in September or even October. It's going to take 381 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:32,439 Speaker 5: a little while to take hold. But again going back 382 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 5: to what he had done at Baltimore in the second 383 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 5: half of his first season in Baltimore. Sorry, that might 384 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,719 Speaker 5: sound confusing. Second half of his first season in Baltimore 385 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:43,359 Speaker 5: twenty twenty two, the Ravens were number one and fewest 386 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 5: points allowed. And then you know, I was also looking 387 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 5: at what he had done at Michigan, where he had 388 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 5: taken the Wolverines from I believe ninety fifth to eighth 389 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 5: in scoring one season. He was only the Michigan defense 390 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 5: coordinator for one year, so I'm like, whoa dude freaking 391 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 5: gets it. And then but then in his second year, 392 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 5: that's where the Ravens hit on that triple crown. As 393 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 5: a word, the you know, number one in three different 394 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 5: categories that if there's some lesson we've learned through the years, 395 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 5: I think Mike McDonald in that regard, you'd say the 396 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:20,639 Speaker 5: first three years, then there's gonna be adjustment. A lot 397 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:23,119 Speaker 5: of teams are gonna be doing what they do. And 398 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 5: I'm resting on history because every single scheme offensively that's 399 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,640 Speaker 5: been whether it's the greatest show on turf or whether 400 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,840 Speaker 5: it's the nineteen eighty five Bears, the best defense I've 401 00:20:33,880 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 5: ever seen, whether it's the Wildcat whatever, whoever has been 402 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:42,640 Speaker 5: doing something. The West Coast offense. Every time there's an 403 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 5: emerging scheme on offense or defense that dominates, it always 404 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 5: has a shelf life. The NFL has never failed to 405 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 5: catch up two dominant schemes. So unless Mike McDonald is 406 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 5: a first of it. He's gonna have to evolve himself. 407 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: Final Factor Fiction comes up next. We are in desperate mode. 408 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,400 Speaker 3: Jackson feltz, we gotta get a win in this pick. 409 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:10,199 Speaker 3: Lee Sterling will help us with our bets for this weekend. 410 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 3: At three forty five, you'll hear from Jed Fish his 411 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 3: conversation with me and Softie. 412 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:17,160 Speaker 2: We'll get hughes take on that in the four o'clock hour. 413 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,560 Speaker 3: As we roll on on a Friday afternoon on ninety 414 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 3: three point three KJRFM. 415 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 1: Now back to Football Friday sponsored by Tito's Handmade Vodka 416 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: in your home for the NFL Sports Radio ninety three 417 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: point three kjr FM Factor Fiction. 418 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,000 Speaker 3: Four minutes away, Jackson and I are discussing. It's usually 419 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,919 Speaker 3: a bad thing when we're discussing, because then it's not 420 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 3: one game that I absolutely have. 421 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:45,520 Speaker 2: I've got stategy dicks. 422 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,919 Speaker 3: I've got like three or four games that I like 423 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 3: and nothing that I really really love. So we were 424 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 3: trying to discuss strategy there in the break for our final. 425 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:55,840 Speaker 2: Factor Fiction pick. 426 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 3: By the way, today is Football Friday sponsored by Tito's 427 00:21:58,280 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 3: Handmade Vodka. 428 00:21:59,160 --> 00:21:59,880 Speaker 2: That sounds good. 429 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 3: A proud sponsor of the Seahawks distilled in bottled by 430 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 3: Fifth Generation Austin, Texas, forty percent alcohol by volume, savor responsibly. 431 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 3: I would save her responsibly at seven o'clock if I 432 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 3: wasn't coaching a high school game. 433 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: And I don't think that's a good. 434 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 3: Look to so I will wait until after the high 435 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 3: school game to enjoy my my Tito's response, Oh, you 436 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,920 Speaker 3: a lot of a lot of Seahawks talk. We'll get 437 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,720 Speaker 3: our pick coming up in just a few moments. Let's 438 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 3: talk a little and we'll spend a lot of time 439 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 3: talking Sam Donald. But just how much, because we only 440 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: have a couple of minutes here, just in general, how 441 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,200 Speaker 3: much worry should we have based upon what we've seen 442 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 3: from the last month of Sam Donald. 443 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 5: Uh, well, I'll just tell you my worry level. I mean, 444 00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 5: it's not nothing. I believe in him. I've I've creeped 445 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 5: on his career, meaning I've really looked, even going back 446 00:22:54,200 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 5: to high school, like, Hey. 447 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:56,720 Speaker 4: What's this guy's wiring? 448 00:22:57,320 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 6: Uh? 449 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 5: You know this so so posed? You know, clutch factor 450 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 5: or is he is there a choke factor there? 451 00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,280 Speaker 4: What have you? 452 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 5: I mean, it's really not going to be answered until 453 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 5: December eighteenth, we really get a definitive state, definitive statement. 454 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:17,120 Speaker 5: But I think that things are a little bit off 455 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 5: right now. The problem, in my view for quarterbacking is 456 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 5: when you play your best is when you play the 457 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,480 Speaker 5: loosest and you don't doubt. You just you see it 458 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,959 Speaker 5: because you're trying to anticipate. You're trying to see the 459 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 5: movie before it happens, and so you're trusting your eyes. 460 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 5: You say, okay, based on what I see these where 461 00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 5: these defenders are here. Now, I have a pretty good 462 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 5: idea where they're going to be by the time the 463 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 5: ball gets there. Because remember now football, if you throw 464 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 5: it in the high fifty miles an hours, that's really 465 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 5: smoking it. It's not a baseball. So why do I 466 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 5: say that? Because it takes a long time relative to 467 00:23:54,520 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 5: a baseball for a ball to get to your target. 468 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 5: That means defenders are closing on the ball and what 469 00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:02,359 Speaker 5: have you. So you just it's it's literally in a 470 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,600 Speaker 5: fraction of second. You go, yep, green light, I like 471 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 5: it go. You know, when I was with the Dolphins, 472 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 5: Dan Marino say lt f F, maybe let the effort 473 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 5: fly and and and I think there's a mentality there 474 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 5: that has helped Sam Darnold number one in UH yards 475 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,440 Speaker 5: per attempt in the NFL, steal, number one in terms 476 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 5: of completion per completions over tenure, all the deep. I 477 00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 5: mean I could list half a page here on number 478 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 5: one in deep metrics, right and number one in big 479 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: in UH big play passes by h as judged by PFF, 480 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:44,399 Speaker 5: and the whole whole works. But if he is second 481 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 5: guessing and overly concerned about turning the ball over, that's 482 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 5: where he'll be paralyzed. That's that's the one of the 483 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 5: real dichotomies of of the position is that you you 484 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:59,359 Speaker 5: read the defense the best when you don't, when you 485 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 5: don't second get and cause yourself to be late, you 486 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 5: just trust it and go. And I think that there 487 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,960 Speaker 5: was a little bit more of that element to his 488 00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:08,639 Speaker 5: game early in the season. 489 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 3: Well, I think I came into the season with very 490 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 3: i'm say moderate expectations. I was not going to be 491 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: going crazy with my Sam Darnold expectations. I simply said, Hey, 492 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 3: whatever he did last year, let's take that as high end. 493 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 3: Let's take the low end of what his average season 494 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 3: was with Carolina and the Jets and bouncing around and 495 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:33,320 Speaker 3: everything and let's just let's just find a midpoint. Can 496 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:38,400 Speaker 3: can he just be markedly better than he was his 497 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:41,720 Speaker 3: first five six years in the NFL? And can he 498 00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 3: be Can he just look closer to the way he 499 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 3: looked in Minnesota? And he has done it? And we 500 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 3: got to go to factor fiction here. We're going to 501 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 3: talk much more about Sam later on, and he has been. 502 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 4: When there's some cool stuff still some. 503 00:25:57,359 --> 00:25:59,560 Speaker 3: Absolutely absolutely and I just kind of wanted to do 504 00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,320 Speaker 3: some some cursory stuff. And we will absolutely talk more Sam, 505 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,560 Speaker 3: not only today, but we'll certainly on Monday, because we'll 506 00:26:05,560 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 3: have another game to look at against the defense that 507 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,400 Speaker 3: is actually okay in Atlanta. It's Factor Fiction time. Let's 508 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: go of course that to go glad you're with us. 509 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,639 Speaker 1: It's your shot at our weekly thousand bucks and the 510 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 1: ten thousand dollars grand prize. It's Factor Fiction probably presented 511 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 1: by Lucky Eagle Casino and Hotel where every day Feels Lucky. 512 00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: Fact Or Fiction is on Sports Radio ninety three point 513 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: three KJR FM. 514 00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:40,680 Speaker 3: When all else fails, Jackson and Hugh, you just stick 515 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:43,119 Speaker 3: to the list. My list has been My list has 516 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:45,159 Speaker 3: been pretty good this year. I've got my games I 517 00:26:45,240 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 3: rank them in order of how I like them over 518 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,399 Speaker 3: the course of the over the course of the week, 519 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: and it seems like every time you get to a 520 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,879 Speaker 3: pick and then you're like, do I want to do it? 521 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,840 Speaker 3: You just stick with the list. And number one of 522 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,840 Speaker 3: my lists was Indy, which I took yesterday. Number two 523 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:05,240 Speaker 3: on my list is the under in the BYU Texas 524 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:10,000 Speaker 3: Tech game. I cannot get out of my mind. The 525 00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:13,800 Speaker 3: first time these two teams played less than a month ago, 526 00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,120 Speaker 3: and the BYU offense, and I like their quarterback Bear Bachmeier. 527 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 3: He had no answer whatsoever for the Texas Tech defense 528 00:27:24,000 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 3: and by it took BYU fifty five minutes to score 529 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,679 Speaker 3: a point in that game. And the over under in 530 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 3: this game is fifty, So give me the under fifty. 531 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 3: In BYU Texas Tech in the Big twelve Championship game, 532 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,800 Speaker 3: the over under was thirty six the last time they 533 00:27:43,840 --> 00:27:46,439 Speaker 3: played two weeks ago. I think these are two teams 534 00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,800 Speaker 3: whose defense is better than their offense, So give me 535 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 3: the Cougars. They're big underdogs in this game. But instead 536 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,919 Speaker 3: of taking the spread, I like the under in this one. 537 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: Jackson, what do you think all we can go is 538 00:27:57,480 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 2: based on history? 539 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:58,760 Speaker 6: Right? 540 00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 7: And I think when you're using recent history as reasoned 541 00:28:02,200 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 7: as that that checked out, it is interesting to me. 542 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 7: Dick On on more of a philosophy note, We came 543 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 7: into this week knowing we were three and a half 544 00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 7: back games back of the morning show, and we kind 545 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,400 Speaker 7: of talked about if we were going to go opposite 546 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:18,160 Speaker 7: at all, and I don't think not a single pick 547 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 7: we've gone opposite of them. 548 00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,120 Speaker 3: There was only one I considered, and that was going 549 00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 3: Atlanta against the Seahawks. 550 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 2: But that number has gone from seven and a half 551 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 2: to six and a half. 552 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 3: If it was if it stayed at seven and a 553 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: half's great, I would have taken the Atlanta Falcons plus 554 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,400 Speaker 3: the points, because I think this is a potential letdown 555 00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: spot for Seattle. 556 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 7: We are truly relying on our own picks, which better 557 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 7: than their own picks, and it's just dangerous. 558 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:43,240 Speaker 2: I'm I'm worried. I'm worried for us. We're probably not 559 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,360 Speaker 2: gonna win. We were three games. What's that number on 560 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: the under again? Fifty? Yeah, that's a bit. That's a 561 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: big number number here. What do you think about that? 562 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 4: I don't don't. 563 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:53,160 Speaker 2: I don't gamble. 564 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 5: I gamble about every three years when I get an impulse, 565 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,959 Speaker 5: he was like me, insider trading. 566 00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 4: You know, but but you said the over under was 567 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:06,080 Speaker 4: thirty six. 568 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 3: The last time they played thirty six, thirty six points 569 00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 3: were score twenty nine to seven. And it was just 570 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 3: it was because I watched a lot of that game, 571 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 3: because I was like, BYU was undefeated. I was like, Okay, 572 00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 3: this is a big time big twelve game. I think 573 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 3: Texas Tech was ranked number three or something like that. 574 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 3: When they played, I was like, this is a big 575 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:28,200 Speaker 3: time game. B Why you could not move the football period? 576 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 3: So I have a tough time. Maybe this game, maybe 577 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 3: they got a pretty good offense. 578 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:36,160 Speaker 4: But I'm not saying I don't like to pick. 579 00:29:36,160 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 5: I'm just all right, well, I'm just listening to your 580 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 5: your rational I think it's I think it's good. 581 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 2: Our thanks you told me. I don't know, all right? 582 00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,320 Speaker 3: How fast over the listeners text four nine four to 583 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: five to one fact if you think they will hold 584 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:52,680 Speaker 3: it under fifty points four nine four five one text 585 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 3: fiction if you think it's going to be a shootout 586 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 3: and it'll be over fifty points our thanks to the 587 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 3: Lucky Eagle Casino. 588 00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 2: It's our final pick of the year. 589 00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 3: I'm always when Factor fiction ends, I'm definitely sad because 590 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 3: it doesn't look like we're gonna win this year. What 591 00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,520 Speaker 3: did we win three in a row at two? Defeatist? 592 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:10,720 Speaker 3: That's a defeatist at its true, that's true. It's I 593 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: think we'll do well this week, but I don't think 594 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 3: the morning show is going to go like zher and 595 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 3: five or one four. They had a couple of picks 596 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,720 Speaker 3: I really really liked. I liked the Jets pick that 597 00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 3: they had. Ah Man, so good week. A lot of 598 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: our a lot of our picks got taken by us 599 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: by other shows. Three on ninety three point three kJ AIRFM. 600 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 3: Speaking of picks, Lee Sterling will tell us next. 601 00:30:30,720 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: On ninety three point three KJFM, It's. 602 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: Time for our weekly visit with gambling expert Lee Sterling. 603 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:39,479 Speaker 1: The Paramount Sports brought to you by bail Breaker Brewing, 604 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: wherevery hop is grown in the Yakama Valley family owned 605 00:30:43,480 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: bold and proudly Pacific Northwest grabbed their flagship Top Cutter IPA, 606 00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:52,040 Speaker 1: a citrusy, fine forward classic at your local grocery store 607 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,440 Speaker 1: or visit dep rooms in Seattle and Yakama. Now with 608 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: Lee Sterling, here's Suffie and. 609 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 2: Did I no Safty today? Take extended weekend? 610 00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 3: Hugh is with us and is always at three forty 611 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 3: five during football season on Fridays. Our man from Paramount 612 00:31:09,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 3: Sports who has been on a heater. Two of his 613 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: last three weeks, he has gone four and one against 614 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 3: the spread. He is now thirty nine to thirty and 615 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 3: one against the spread on the. 616 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: Air this year. Pair from Paramount Sports, Lee Sterling, Lee, 617 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:24,600 Speaker 2: how are you? 618 00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 6: Man? I'm good? So I guess Dave's the human anchor. 619 00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 6: He loses, he takes off for the weekend. Is that 620 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 6: the way it's going to go from now on? 621 00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 3: Well, I hope he still made a few picks on 622 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,280 Speaker 3: Factor Fiction for us this week, So I hope he's 623 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,080 Speaker 3: not an anchor to the show, that's for sure. 624 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 6: Okay, all right, we'll root for him there. 625 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 2: So all right, let's go to Big Ten Championship. Let's 626 00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,000 Speaker 2: go right to the Big Ten Championship. Man, this number 627 00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 2: is starting to creep down a little bit. 628 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,360 Speaker 3: It's now down to Ohio State minus four against Indiana 629 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 3: in the one versus two matchup in Indy. 630 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 6: Well, the mental aspect of this game I think certainly 631 00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:06,080 Speaker 6: favorites Indiana. I think Ohio State was preparing for Michigan 632 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,440 Speaker 6: for probably five six weeks. That was their number one 633 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,760 Speaker 6: goal once they got to mid season and they lost 634 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 6: four straight times to them. The way they celebrated after 635 00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 6: they beat Michigan in the Big House, you would have 636 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 6: thought they won the national title. Indiana, on the other hand, 637 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 6: they were playing for due probably spent all five minutes 638 00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 6: preparing for that game. I love Kurt Signetty and his 639 00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:33,479 Speaker 6: coaching staff here. Think that their quarterback, Fernando Mendoza about 640 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 6: ten minutes away from my house. I think you might 641 00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 6: be able to do a number here in Ohio State. 642 00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,240 Speaker 6: I know they're number one a lot of major statistical 643 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 6: categories here on defense, but I think Kurt Signetty's going 644 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 6: to find some weaknesses. With two weeks to prepare, they'll 645 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 6: have twenty five thirty plays that'll work here. I'm calling 646 00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 6: for the upset here. Indiana is going to win the 647 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:59,040 Speaker 6: Big Ten title here ranking favorite, Who's Your Daddy twenty 648 00:32:59,040 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 6: seven to twenty four? 649 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 3: Wow Indiana with the wins straight up? All right, let's 650 00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: stay with the We go from the Big Ten Championship 651 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 3: to the Big Twelve Championship at Jerry's World in Dallas. 652 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:14,960 Speaker 3: It's a game we just took on the factor fiction, 653 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:18,080 Speaker 3: except we went over under versus the points spread. We'll 654 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 3: get your take on that as well, But let's start 655 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 3: with Texas Tech minus twelve and a half against BYU. 656 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,280 Speaker 6: So when I watched the first game, I'll never forget 657 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 6: looked over at my buddy and I told them at 658 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:33,040 Speaker 6: the end of the game Finals twenty nine to seven 659 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 6: Texas Tech, I'm like this line. They should have won 660 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 6: this game forty to nothing. 661 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 2: They dominated us. 662 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:45,160 Speaker 6: But what happens sometimes when you beat a team that bad, 663 00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 6: they can make adjustments. It just wasn't BYU's day. Every 664 00:33:49,080 --> 00:33:52,160 Speaker 6: pass Day threw seemed like went to a receiver's hand, 665 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 6: from his hands into a Texas Tech defender's hand. They 666 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 6: run back almost for a touchdown lineup and it's just 667 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,200 Speaker 6: not your day. Texas Tech's good here, but this game 668 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 6: reminds me of Arizona State Texas from last year. I 669 00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 6: think BYU will make the adjustments here. Also keeping their 670 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,320 Speaker 6: coach Kalaney Sataki for at least another couple of years, 671 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 6: this team's going to come out here. They've got nothing 672 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 6: to lose. And if you think Texas Tech is going 673 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 6: to have like a three to one advantage as far 674 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:25,960 Speaker 6: as vans, I don't think so BYU really travels well. Also, 675 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,640 Speaker 6: Tech survives BYU here thirty to twenty. 676 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,239 Speaker 3: Four, thirty to twenty four. So you got the oh 677 00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 3: you're leaning over. Then we just took the under. But 678 00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 3: you like the over kind of a no play one 679 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 3: way or the other on the over under. 680 00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 6: Slightly, very slightly, I'll put put two toes in. 681 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 2: Put two toes in. 682 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:43,120 Speaker 6: Right. 683 00:34:43,320 --> 00:34:45,240 Speaker 2: Let's go to the NFL Packers. 684 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,319 Speaker 3: Now it's under a touchdown minus six and a half 685 00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:51,960 Speaker 3: against a team they have absolutely dominated in the Chicago Bears. 686 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:55,520 Speaker 6: So you like they have. And I love Ben Johnson. 687 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 6: I was shocked that he took the Chicago job. I 688 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 6: thought he was going to go out of his division 689 00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:03,759 Speaker 6: where he was coaching, but he felt Chicago gave him 690 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,880 Speaker 6: the best chance to winning. Caleb Williams has not been bad. 691 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:11,680 Speaker 6: I mean, he's been good enough here and I think 692 00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:14,879 Speaker 6: the way he's teaching him go to your first lead 693 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 6: not gonna be you know, he's not gonna be a 694 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 6: Tom Brady's not gonna pick out a third and a 695 00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:22,239 Speaker 6: fourth receiver get the first read. If he's not there 696 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 6: go to the second read. You can't find him, throw 697 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,880 Speaker 6: the ball away. Let's live to fight another day. The 698 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 6: key is win the battle of turnovers. If you're plus 699 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,759 Speaker 6: two turnovers in a game or more, you're gonna win 700 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 6: eighty eight percent of the time in the NFL. That's 701 00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:41,160 Speaker 6: the way it works out here. So I've got some 702 00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:45,200 Speaker 6: real reservations about the Packers offensive line. The receivers two 703 00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,239 Speaker 6: weeks ago drop seven balls in the game, and I 704 00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 6: don't think their cornerbacks or anything special either. Packers one 705 00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 6: in six playing more than three points this year, Green 706 00:35:56,120 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 6: Bay survives here twenty seven to twenty four. 707 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: All right, so far he's three for three to the 708 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 3: underdog in these first three games. Let's see if he 709 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:08,400 Speaker 3: continues Rams eight and a half point favorites in Arizona 710 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 3: against the hapless Cards. 711 00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,280 Speaker 2: Will you make it four for four with the Dogs? 712 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,840 Speaker 6: All right? So the Rams offense gives the appearance of 713 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 6: being able to do whatever they want to do, so 714 00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:23,600 Speaker 6: much so that Matt Stafford he reverted to being Detroit. 715 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 6: Matt Stafford against the Panthers had a cavalier attitude here. 716 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 6: He was tossing interceptions, being an overconfident guy against the 717 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:37,800 Speaker 6: zone heavy secondary sometimes it can do that. So Cardinals 718 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 6: play as much zone as anyone here, So shouldn't be 719 00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 6: surprised if this is going to be a ballgame with 720 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:47,080 Speaker 6: the Rams on alert here and forced to go with 721 00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 6: a slightly different approach here. I know trum McVay is 722 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,920 Speaker 6: incredible here off of point spread loss sixty one point 723 00:36:55,960 --> 00:37:00,360 Speaker 6: two percent in his career, but historical friends versus number 724 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 6: can only take you so far. Rams. They're gonna win, 725 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,400 Speaker 6: but they're not going to cover another underdog twenty six, twenty. 726 00:37:07,120 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 2: Four, four for four and the Dogs. 727 00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,400 Speaker 3: Now, this last one is one that I seriously considered 728 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,879 Speaker 3: for factor fiction going to the Falcons plus the points, 729 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 3: but I got scared off because I lost the hook. 730 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 2: It was seven and a half earlier in the week. 731 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: Now it's six and a half Hawks minus six and 732 00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 3: a half in Hotlanta against the Falcons. 733 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:25,000 Speaker 2: Who do you like? 734 00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:28,320 Speaker 6: Probably the toughest game to play. I think it depends 735 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,080 Speaker 6: on Drake London if he plays here. I think it's 736 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:31,799 Speaker 6: an Atlanta call. 737 00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,440 Speaker 2: I know All is not playing the numbers Auteattle. It's 738 00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 2: just a nice season, all right. 739 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:40,040 Speaker 6: Okay, So then I think you maybe look to Seattle here. 740 00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,400 Speaker 6: Their defense is number three and EPA p play number 741 00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:49,240 Speaker 6: four and success rate number one in EPA rush per attempted, 742 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,800 Speaker 6: number three in rushing success rate allowed. If Atlanta can't run, 743 00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,600 Speaker 6: they're going to be all over Kirk Cousins. I know 744 00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 6: they won last year thirty four to fourteen Kirk Cousins. 745 00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:05,920 Speaker 6: He threw two interceptions, he was sacked three times. Final 746 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 6: score was boost a little bit by that thirty six 747 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 6: yard fumble return for a touchdown of the fourth quarter. 748 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 6: But as long as it's seven we might even be 749 00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,880 Speaker 6: able to buy it down to six and a half 750 00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:18,600 Speaker 6: if you're betting it here. But even at seven, I 751 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 6: like Seattle here thirty to twenty. 752 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:21,399 Speaker 2: All right. 753 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:25,000 Speaker 3: The one favorite that Lee takes this week is the Seahawks. 754 00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,920 Speaker 3: He's got the Seahawks, he's got the Cards plus the points. 755 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 3: He's got the Bears plus the points. He's got Indiana 756 00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 3: straight up dub against Ohio State in the Big Ten Championship. 757 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 3: And he's got BYU plus the points and your game 758 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,799 Speaker 3: of the week Eagles minus two and a half at 759 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 3: so far, taking on the Chargers, where there will probably 760 00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 3: be more Eagle fans then there will be Charger fans 761 00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 3: in that stadium. 762 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:49,520 Speaker 2: How do we get this pick? 763 00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,760 Speaker 6: Anyone wants to get it for free? Just call eight hundred, 764 00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,600 Speaker 6: four hundred nine seven four to one. The games on 765 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 6: me were rolling thirty seven, seventeen and one in the NFL. 766 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 6: Well had nine out of eleven winning weeks college football 767 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,200 Speaker 6: in the NFL. We went on Thursday, Turkey Day, Friday, Saturday, Sunday, 768 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 6: passed on Monday, and one last night with the Lions. 769 00:39:11,480 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 6: You want to hop on board double down December. Every 770 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 6: game from tonight and we have three of the four games. 771 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,960 Speaker 6: First one starts in five minutes. Just one place. Paramount 772 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 6: sports dot. 773 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 2: Com love it. Have a great weekend, man, good luck. 774 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you next week. 775 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, thanks guys. 776 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,760 Speaker 3: You Betley Sterlink, Paramount Sports and Paramount sports dot Com. 777 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 3: He has been very, very good for us this year. 778 00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 3: Thirty nine thirty and one on the air against the spread. 779 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,560 Speaker 3: Let's hear from head coach Jedfish in the next segment. 780 00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 3: Jackson has pared down our extensive interview twenty four minutes Saturday. 781 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 2: It was our twenty four minute interview that we did 782 00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: with Jedial he is. 783 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,800 Speaker 3: He has pared it down to the meat and Potatoes, 784 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,120 Speaker 3: a lot about his future, about the success rate that 785 00:39:57,160 --> 00:39:59,479 Speaker 3: he thought this season had looking ahead in the next year, 786 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,719 Speaker 3: and we'll get Hugh and my thoughts on that as 787 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 3: well coming up in the next segment of ninety three 788 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:04,400 Speaker 3: point three KJRFM.