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Speaker 1: Well, Buck Sexton, radio TV star and now best selling author.

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Speaker 1: He's got a great new book out. It's called Manufacturing Delusion.

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Speaker 1: How the Left uses brainwashing, indoctrination and propaganda. Go to Amazon.

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Speaker 1: It's already a big best seller on Amazon. But go

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Speaker 1: to Amazon and get buck Sexton's new book. You'll love it.

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Speaker 1: And of course you hear him here on wor everyday

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Speaker 1: noon to three. Buck and Clay every day noon to three.

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton, how you doing.

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Speaker 2: I'm great, Mark, thank you so much for having me on.

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Speaker 3: I'm super gratified at the response of everyone to the book.

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Speaker 3: We hit the number four on the New York Times

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Speaker 3: bestseller list for a debut nonfiction, which is pretty solid.

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Speaker 3: And honestly, I just really want people to go get

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Speaker 3: Manufacturing Delusion.

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Speaker 2: Everyone that's reading it. I'll tell you, Mark, it's funny.

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Speaker 3: The biggest reaction that I'm getting from people is oh, wow,

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Speaker 3: it's actually a good book with real research that I

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Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, yeah, I'll take it. You know that's right.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's it's fascinating, this book Manufacturing Delusion. You know,

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Speaker 1: we think that the media is a little slanted the

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Speaker 1: biased about it, but you lay out that these are

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Speaker 1: techniques and tricks that have been used by Stalin, the

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Speaker 1: Chinese and Jihadis. And what made you start on this book?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, Mark, it actually comes out of my

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Speaker 3: wearing full hazmat suits, and that you know, the Biden

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Speaker 3: get shot numbers six, seven, and eight. After already getting

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Speaker 3: to I said, what happened here? So instead, this isn't

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Speaker 3: the genesis of Hold on a minute. There's something that

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Speaker 3: can be done. There's a way that propaganda, there's a

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Speaker 2: That has to have a playbook.

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Speaker 3: There have to be tactics to this, And in my

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Speaker 3: We're also dealing with crazies, jihadis, phrases which praises in

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Speaker 3: radicalization from the CIA. But then I go back to

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Speaker 3: And it's Nazi Germany, Stalinist Russia, Maoist China. And I

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Speaker 3: Much and reach chapter three, they can reach chapter eight,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Now, at the same time, the media goes totally

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Speaker 3: And the back third of the book is really about propaganda,

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Speaker 3: So you learn that in the book. But it always

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Speaker 2: I mean, Mark, how is it that when they would ask.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a great book. It's called Manufacturing Delusion. You

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Speaker 1: should go to Amazon and order it right now. Manufacturing

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Speaker 1: Delusions by Buck Sexton. And I'm looking at Amazon, but

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Speaker 1: you got all these badges all of it, Amazon Bestseller,

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Speaker 3: Well, I've been very inundated and very grateful for it

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Speaker 3: programs like Yours which whenever I want to think of home,

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Speaker 2: People will learn tactics of what's going on around them.

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Speaker 3: And if you want to know, you know why you're crazy.

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Speaker 2: Scientifically and historically explain that to you.

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Speaker 3: And so I think that's why Manufacturing Delusion is such

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the first step, mark is understanding what

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Speaker 2: Are these things? Buck at manufacturing delusion? You'll understand.

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Speaker 2: And look, I'm an XCIA guy. So some people go, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: And the basic principle you always have to keep in

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Speaker 3: It's a great book to buy, great book to get

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Speaker 3: read this book, who has not found it? Really, it's quick,

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Speaker 2: You know, if you're watching MS now, which mark is?

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Speaker 3: I remember in manufacturing delusion.

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Speaker 2: What's that thing? Fire hose of falsehood.

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Speaker 2: Oh, that's a tactic. That's a manufactured delusion.

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Speaker 3: And you go back and you see this right there

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Speaker 3: in the book, Like I say, the playbook of the

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Speaker 2: Can fight back against this madness. And you'll also learn

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Speaker 3: You'll learn about the origins of the Assassin culture, learn

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Speaker 3: So it's just got a lot packed into a very

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Speaker 1: It's great. It's a great book. Everybody, go get it.

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Speaker 1: It's on Amazon. Buck Sexton's new book, Manufacturing Delusion. You

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Speaker 1: Great book. Buck Sexton, thanks for the book, and thanks

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Speaker 1: for being with us. Mark.

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Speaker 2: Thank you sir.

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Speaker 1: Take care, talk to you soon. That's a great book. Everybody,

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