1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Mister Brown, I want to give thanks today for what 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:09,360 Speaker 1: you did. I enjoyed roy D for the entire time 3 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:13,319 Speaker 1: I lived in Oklahoma, and I still enjoy thanks. Man, 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:16,240 Speaker 1: have a good one. 5 00:00:17,320 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: May have been I I this is how long we've 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:23,480 Speaker 2: been over here now, Dragon five months something something I 7 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:24,840 Speaker 2: never takes something five months. 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: And I hope we kind. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,200 Speaker 2: Of needed to ease into roy D because, you know, Kowa, 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 2: you're a little hoity toy dy, and you. 11 00:00:32,840 --> 00:00:37,240 Speaker 1: Know, we bring them, you know, just their new studio 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: with blinds that work and lights that work right. 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 2: And actually consoles. It's clean and it smells good things 14 00:00:43,360 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: to Gina. Yeah, I mean yeah, right. So let me 15 00:00:47,320 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: take you to a scene in the United States seventh 16 00:00:51,440 --> 00:00:54,080 Speaker 2: this's been playing out for I would guess maybe about 17 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 2: six weeks now forty plus days is about how long 18 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: the Department of Homeland Security sat in partial shutdown while 19 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 2: Senate Democrats used an obscure procedural. 20 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Rule to block the funding of that behemoth. 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 2: Not because they had the votes to defeat the bill, 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 2: and not because they won the argument on the merits, 23 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: but because forty one senators can, under the current Senate rules, 24 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 2: simply say no and nothing happens. There's no debate required, 25 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: there's no standing at a podium, there's no accountability. There's 26 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 2: just Nancy Reagan basically saying just say no, and the 27 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 2: majority that people who actually won the election and now 28 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 2: have the majority. I don't care what size they have 29 00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:58,720 Speaker 2: a majority, whether that's fifty one or fifty two, or 30 00:01:58,760 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 2: fifty three or fift they have a majority. 31 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: They are powerless to act. 32 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 2: The Democrats blocked the Homeland Security funding Bill five separate 33 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 2: times five A motion to advance the bill, meaning let's 34 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 2: at least get it to the floor. That failed forty 35 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,639 Speaker 2: seven to thirty seven, that fell short of the sixty 36 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: vote threshold required to overcome a filibuster. The loan democrat 37 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 2: to vote yes, John Fetterman of Pennsylvania. Every other Democrat 38 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: held the line. Now, while they held that line, more 39 00:02:38,919 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 2: than almost twelve percent I'll say twelve percent TSA employees 40 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 2: on any given day, we're calling out from work. Now, 41 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: since then, almost five hundred TSA employees have quit outright. 42 00:02:53,000 --> 00:03:00,480 Speaker 2: Airports across the country saw call out rates exceeding forty percent. People, 43 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: real consequences, real families without paychecks. Regardless what you think 44 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 2: about TSA this is the reality of these lives going 45 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 2: on six weeks in that situation. And I always found 46 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 2: that incongruent, kind of the bizarre situation that everybody was 47 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 2: in up in arms about TSA. You know why they 48 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 2: were up in arms about TSA because it affected the 49 00:03:24,200 --> 00:03:29,120 Speaker 2: flying public. Now when the military doesn't get paid, it's 50 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,839 Speaker 2: the same effects on those families, But nobody really pays 51 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: the attention because you don't have to walk through you 52 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 2: don't have to go through a military checkpoint to go 53 00:03:37,040 --> 00:03:39,160 Speaker 2: from point A to point B, so it's out of side, 54 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: out of mind. But with TSA, Oh my gosh, it's 55 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 2: like this the end of civilization. But my point that 56 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:50,680 Speaker 2: I want to emphasize is that not paying your employees 57 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 2: has real consequences for real families going without paychecks going 58 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:02,120 Speaker 2: on six weeks. All because listen carefully, all because Chuck 59 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 2: Schumer decided that procedural obstruction was more important than keeping 60 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 2: the lights on at the Department of Homeland Security. So 61 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 2: obviously I'm talking about the filibuster. Now. My conservative friends 62 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 2: tell me that eliminating the filibuster would turn the Senate into, 63 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:24,839 Speaker 2: in their phrase, it's just gonna be another house of Representatives. 64 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 1: He'll be just like the House of Commons. 65 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 2: He'll just be like you know, in the British Parliament, 66 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 2: they're just all you know, now, when they have that, 67 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: they have the speaker's moment whatever, I forget what the 68 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 2: precisely what they call it. But when they just yell 69 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 2: questions at the speaker all the time, he'll just turn 70 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 2: into that you know, that rally bunch of yahoos. Well, 71 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:46,320 Speaker 2: I guess you've never been to the United States Senate 72 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,200 Speaker 2: or to the United States House of Representatives. 73 00:04:49,279 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: They're already like that. 74 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 2: My conservative friends like to invoke and call and refer 75 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: to the United States Senate as the world's greatest deliberative body. 76 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 2: And yes, I say that with the exact same straight 77 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 2: face that my friends do. But here's my question for 78 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 2: those friends deliberating or debating toward what end? Because right 79 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 2: now the Senate isn't deliberating at all. It's paralyzed. In fact, 80 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,200 Speaker 2: they're not even at work because well, last Sunday it 81 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:26,440 Speaker 2: was Palm Sunday. Next Sunday is Eastern They need two 82 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: weeks off. And by the way, when they left to 83 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,599 Speaker 2: go on those flights, they didn't go through TSA like 84 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:33,679 Speaker 2: you did a spring break. 85 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 3: No. 86 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 2: Anyway, the Senate is now paralyzed, and the filibuster, the 87 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 2: rule that's supposedly protecting all this precious deliberation, is not 88 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 2: what you think it is. 89 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: It never was. 90 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 2: So I want to go through a brief history lesson 91 00:05:52,120 --> 00:05:57,279 Speaker 2: because the history here is devastating to the traditionalist argument 92 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: that my friends are making. The filibuster rule technically called 93 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 2: the cloture rule, that was invented in nineteen seventeen. It 94 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: wasn't handed down from Mount Sinai. It wasn't invented in 95 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: the Constitution. It was invented, and I think it was. 96 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: You need to understand it was invented by the Senate 97 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 2: under Woodrow Wilson, the father of the progressive Democrat movement 98 00:06:27,960 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 2: in this country, under wartime pressure. Why because a filibuster 99 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: had blocked legislation to arm American merchant ships ships during 100 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: World War One, and Woodrow Wilson was furious about that. Now, 101 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,720 Speaker 2: I'm not going to argue whether you should have been 102 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 2: shouldn't have been. That's not the point. The point is 103 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 2: this occurred because the Senate used the filibuster to block 104 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 2: legislation to arm American merchant ships. During World War One, 105 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:06,359 Speaker 2: and that pissed off President Wilson, so his Senate because 106 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:09,279 Speaker 2: they had the majority, they changed the rule. That was 107 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,240 Speaker 2: changed number one nineteen seventeen. They changed the rule again 108 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 2: in nineteen forty nine. They changed the rule again in 109 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: nineteen fifty nine. They changed the rule again in nineteen 110 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 2: seventy five, and in nineteen seventy five that's when the 111 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: threshold dropped from two thirds to the sixty votes that 112 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,840 Speaker 2: you keep hearing about today. Then they changed it begin 113 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:37,679 Speaker 2: in twenty thirteen. That's when the fat senator and Senate 114 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 2: majority leader Harry Reid, who's now assumed groom temperature, used 115 00:07:42,320 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: what became known as the nuclear option to eliminate the 116 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 2: filibuster for executive branch nominations and lower court judges. So 117 00:07:53,320 --> 00:07:56,640 Speaker 2: think about you know, for if somebody wanted to filibuster 118 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: my nomination is the undersecretary was eliminated, I could have 119 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: gotten my presidential commission on just a simple majority. 120 00:08:04,560 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 1: Vote, or a lower court. 121 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: Judge, say a federal court district court judge in Denver. 122 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 2: It was changed again after twenty thirteen. In twenty seventeen, 123 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: when then Republican Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell extended Harry 124 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: Reid's precedent from twenty thirteen to Supreme Court nominations. That 125 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 2: change gave US Justices Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barratt. 126 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:34,959 Speaker 1: So now you've got. 127 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 2: Six changes to a rule that started in nineteen seventeen. 128 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 2: Six times. Now the last I checked. Now we may 129 00:08:44,960 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 2: be hanging on by a thread, but not because of 130 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 2: the filibuster rule. But the Republic survived every single one 131 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:57,880 Speaker 2: of these rule changes. Here's what the Constitution actually says 132 00:08:57,920 --> 00:09:03,640 Speaker 2: about the super majority requirements. It requires them for specific things. Now, 133 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 2: the supermajority is you've got to get sixty votes, sixty 134 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: one votes to vote closure to end debate, so you 135 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 2: can actually vote on the bill, which only requires a majority. 136 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: So you get the kind of incongruency here, the paradox 137 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 2: of you need a super majority to stop debate so 138 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: you can just vote on the bill. What the Constitution 139 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 2: actually says about a super majority requirement is in existence. 140 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:47,959 Speaker 2: It requires a supermajority for very specific things. Treaty ratifications, 141 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 2: a constitutional amendment, conviction in an impeachment trial. You know, 142 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,800 Speaker 2: if they wanted to convict if they wanted to convict 143 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 2: Trump in one of those three impeachment trials, they would 144 00:09:59,040 --> 00:10:04,720 Speaker 2: need a super majority to do so, overriding a presidential veto. 145 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:06,520 Speaker 1: That's it. 146 00:10:07,280 --> 00:10:16,880 Speaker 2: Treaties, amendments, impeachments, vetos, four things. Ordinary legislation is not 147 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: on that list, and was never put on that list 148 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 2: by the framers of the Constitution, and it was not 149 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 2: there when it was adopted in seventeen eighty nine. Ordinary 150 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 2: legislation is not according to the Constitution, according to federalist papers, 151 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: according to all the history, ordinary legislation was never subject 152 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:47,079 Speaker 2: to a super majority requirement. The framers of the Constitution 153 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 2: actually considered requiring a supermajority in the Senate, and they 154 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: rejected it. Super Majority requirements for just regular lawmaking were 155 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 2: rejected by the framers of the Constitution, the writers, the 156 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,760 Speaker 2: drafters of the Constitution. So the sixty foot threshold is 157 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: not a constitutional safeguard. It's a club rule. The club 158 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:15,040 Speaker 2: happens to be the US Senate. It's a gentleman's agreement, 159 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 2: and as we've seen over the last six weeks, it 160 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:23,080 Speaker 2: is a gentleman's agreement that Democrats are perfectly willing to weaponize. 161 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 2: While more than one hundred thousand federal workers can't pay 162 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: their mortgages. Now, let me address the argument about the 163 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Speaker 2: House directly, because I think it deserves a serious answer, 164 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 2: and that is that, oh, without the filibuster, the world's 165 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: greatest deliberative body, but just become another House of Commons. 166 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 2: It's just become another House of representatives. Yes, without the filibuster, 167 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 2: the Senate becomes more like the House where the majority rules. 168 00:11:54,800 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 2: Is that terrible? Think about what you're actually defending. When 169 00:12:01,320 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 2: you defend the current system, you're defending a system where 170 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 2: forty one senators representing as little as eleven percent of 171 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 2: the entire US population. If you stack up the smallest states, 172 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 2: forty one senators can permanently block anything the majority wants 173 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 2: to do. So, in practical terms, you're defending a system 174 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:30,199 Speaker 2: where the Save America Act election integrity legislation requiring proof 175 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 2: of citizenship to register to vote, can't pass. Not because 176 00:12:34,760 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: it lacks public support, because we know it has public support. 177 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: It's an eighty twenty issue, it's a ninety ten issue. 178 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: It can't pass because it can't attract sixty votes to 179 00:12:46,600 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 2: overcome a filibuster. This is legislation that, as I said, 180 00:12:51,960 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 2: polls it eight eighty five ninety percent approval of cross 181 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 2: party lines eighty five percent, and it can't pass. So 182 00:12:59,520 --> 00:13:04,319 Speaker 2: that's what you're defending, if you're defending the filibuster. Now, 183 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: let's talk about the talking filibuster. 184 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:06,679 Speaker 1: This is the. 185 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 2: Jimmy Stewart, you know, mister Smith goes to Washington version 186 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,480 Speaker 2: where you actually stand at the podium for. 187 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 1: Hours and hours and hours and days and days or 188 00:13:14,679 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: maybe weeks, and you make your case. That is not 189 00:13:16,840 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: the current practice at all. 190 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:25,840 Speaker 2: Senator Mike Lee, Utah Republican has pushed the Majority Leader 191 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 2: John Thune to at least require that make these senators 192 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 2: do something if they're going to block this legislation, at 193 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:38,400 Speaker 2: least make them stand there publicly and defend the obstruction 194 00:13:38,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 2: they are engaged in. John Thune's declined to do that. 195 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,439 Speaker 2: John Thune has repeatedly insisted that there is not support 196 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,079 Speaker 2: within the Republican conference, that's the Republican members of the Senate, 197 00:13:50,760 --> 00:13:55,319 Speaker 2: for ending the filibuster, even as President Trump has escalated 198 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 2: pressure calling on Republicans to in all caps on truth, 199 00:13:58,320 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 2: social terminate the philibuster and vote. Here's what I find 200 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:09,319 Speaker 2: remarkable about this moment. Senate Republicans control fifty three seats, 201 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: and they control the House, and they control the White House. 202 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 2: We have a clear mandate from November five, twenty twenty four, 203 00:14:18,880 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 2: and Republicans are being told by our own majority leader, well, 204 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 2: we can't govern because forty one Democrats have told us 205 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 2: we can't do this. Let me repeat that. On November five, 206 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four, we took control of the House, the Senate, 207 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 2: and the White House, and now one man, one man Johnson. 208 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: I emphasize him because he is the majority leader, but 209 00:14:49,480 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: I will say there are a bunch of piss andy 210 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 2: cowards hanging behind his skirt because they don't want to 211 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 2: vote on this either, but they don't want to tell 212 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: you that. They want you to believe it. They'refore but 213 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 2: we can't do anything because forty one Democrats Wait a minute, 214 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 2: forty one, that's less than a majority, are telling us 215 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 2: we can't do it. So what did the eventual resolution 216 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,560 Speaker 2: look like? What broke the stalemate? I really want you 217 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 2: to understand this, because this is the unadulterated retail politics 218 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 2: of what's going on that the cabal that even Fox 219 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 2: News will not tell you, maybe occasionally because I don't 220 00:15:32,440 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: listen to off that much of Fox News anymore. But 221 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 2: maybe somewhere on Fox News they've explained this to you. 222 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 2: When I've listened to it, I've not heard it. At 223 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:45,960 Speaker 2: roughly two o'clock in the morning on a Friday, the 224 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 2: Senate passed a measure by unanimous consent funding most of 225 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: DHS was explicitly carting out immigrations and customs enforcement and 226 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 2: border patrol, the very agencies at the heart of a 227 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 2: Republican mandate. That's what Trump got elected on. Schumer walked 228 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 2: out and declared that Democrats had held firm in their 229 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: opposition to Trump's immigration enforcement. 230 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: And Schumer was right. 231 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,920 Speaker 2: They did hold firm because the filibuster those forty one 232 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: Democrats that filibuster rule let them do it without paying 233 00:16:21,120 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 2: a single, not one iota of a political price. The 234 00:16:27,560 --> 00:16:30,400 Speaker 2: House then passed its own bill to fund all of 235 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 2: DHS for eight weeks, and Schumer immediately declared it debt 236 00:16:34,280 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 2: on arrival in the Senate because it would need Democrat 237 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: votes to overcome a filibuster. And then Congress left for 238 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 2: a two week Spring recess easter break. The shutdown goes 239 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:50,239 Speaker 2: into the record books. Now this is what institutional reverence 240 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 2: looks like in practice, workers without paychecks, airports and chaos, 241 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 2: Senators avoiding the chaos they've created. They're not I heard 242 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:04,879 Speaker 2: Charles pain this morning on the way in talk about 243 00:17:05,520 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: how furious he was at senators going on spring break, 244 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: easter break and avoiding the chaotic checkout our security lines 245 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: at airports because they get waved through. And he had 246 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 2: a great phrase, they should have to eat their own cooking. 247 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 2: And I agree one thousand percent with this. That's a 248 00:17:29,840 --> 00:17:34,679 Speaker 2: great phrase. They ought to eat their own cooking. This is, 249 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 2: as I said, what institutional reverence looks like in practice. Yeah, 250 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 2: workers without paychecks, airports and chaos, and a majority, a 251 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:49,959 Speaker 2: Republican majority that cannot and will not govern, and a 252 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:54,199 Speaker 2: procedural rule that gives the losing side, the minority, a 253 00:17:54,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 2: permanent veto as long as they're willing to be shameless 254 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: enough to use it. And I know there is a 255 00:18:02,480 --> 00:18:05,960 Speaker 2: counter argument, and I know it's coming, So I guess 256 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 2: what I'm going to do. We're going to dispatch that next. 257 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Michael said beaver Hunter on the radio. We're just twelve 258 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 1: year olds at art. 259 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 2: We're talking about the filibuster rule, and I'm trying to 260 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:29,840 Speaker 2: build a case that I think we have to get 261 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 2: rid of it forty one Democrats can completely shut down everything. 262 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: But there's more to the story than just that. 263 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,159 Speaker 2: There's also the story about how John Thune and a 264 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 2: lot of republic it's not all of them, but I 265 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: would say a majority of the Republican Senators hide behind 266 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 2: this rule because they don't want to pass the Save Act, 267 00:18:55,400 --> 00:19:02,320 Speaker 2: because they want to hide behind the democrats obstruction. Now, 268 00:19:02,680 --> 00:19:05,720 Speaker 2: I was just going to do the counter argument, which 269 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,720 Speaker 2: I know many people are making, including friends of mine, 270 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:13,919 Speaker 2: and that is that the Republicans will regret this if 271 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 2: they get rid of the filibuster when the Democrats retake 272 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 2: the Senate, which they may or may not this cycle, 273 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 2: but they will eventually, at some time retake the Senate. 274 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 2: That's the argument the Mitch McConnell mates. It's not a 275 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 2: crazy argument. But here's the thing. Harry Reid already changed 276 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 2: the rules in twenty thirteen. We've been changing the rules 277 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 2: about the filibuster since nineteen seventeen. So Democrats fired the 278 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:47,679 Speaker 2: first shot. The precedent exists. The only question now is 279 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:50,239 Speaker 2: whether Republicans are willing to use it for things that 280 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:53,840 Speaker 2: actually matter to the people who gave them the majority, 281 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,800 Speaker 2: whether that majority lasts until you know. 282 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,480 Speaker 1: Next January, or it does not last. 283 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 2: Or they'll preserve a procedural nicety while they watch their 284 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 2: majority evaporate. The principle of sufficient reason says that nothing 285 00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: happens without a cause adequate to explain it. Now applied 286 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 2: to Democrat politics. That says that majorities that fail to 287 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 2: govern will lose their majorities. Republicans currently have the House, 288 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,639 Speaker 2: Republicans currently have the Senate, and we've got the White House. 289 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,000 Speaker 2: And six weeks ago they could not get together to 290 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: fund the Department of Homeland Security because one man, Chuck Schumer, 291 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 2: told them no, and that one man is scared to 292 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:47,480 Speaker 2: death of AOC primary him, so he keeps his cockage 293 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:50,399 Speaker 2: together and does whatever the far left wing Marxist wing 294 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 2: of the Democrat Party wants to do, and so forty 295 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:58,080 Speaker 2: one Democrats shut everything down. The filibuster has been changed 296 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 2: six times because six different majorities decided that this rule 297 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 2: was no longer serving the people that was supposed to 298 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 2: serve you and me. We're now living through reason number seven. 299 00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 2: So the question is, I think pretty simple, whether Johnstone 300 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,320 Speaker 2: has the will to act before the twenty twenty six 301 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 2: midterms make his answer irrelevant. 302 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: I don't think he does now. I want you to 303 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: hold that image in your mind. Foon and Shumer backslapping. 304 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 2: Their way all the way to the United Club, all 305 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 2: the way to the American Airlines Lounge, all the way 306 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,960 Speaker 2: to the Delta Lounge, all the way to whatever departure 307 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: lounge they go to, every single one of them convinced 308 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:58,560 Speaker 2: that they had outmaneuvered the other. Because this story does 309 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: not end there. In fact, it's even worse, maybe richer, 310 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 2: depending on whether you want to look at it through 311 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 2: my eyes or your eyes. While the Senate was busy 312 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 2: adjourney for Easter, the House of Representatives wasn't quite done. 313 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 2: So Inner Speaker Johnston right he was furious at being 314 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: blindsided by a middle of the night Senate maneuver that 315 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 2: he says he never agreed to, never signed off on. 316 00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 2: He called his own caucus together that last Friday morning. 317 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 2: House Conservatives expressed outrage over the Senate past measure, and 318 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:33,360 Speaker 2: they vowed. 319 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 1: To vote against it. 320 00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: They were demanding full funding for ice and border patrol, 321 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: and some insisted on tacking on even voter id requirements 322 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: while they were at it. So the speaker read the room. 323 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 2: The Senate bill was going nowhere under his roof nowhere 324 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:53,440 Speaker 2: at all. So I think that Speaker Johnson did what 325 00:22:53,920 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 2: legislative leaders do when they find themselves out of options. 326 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: He counterpunched. 327 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:04,719 Speaker 2: House Republicans pass their own bill, a sixty day continuing 328 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: resolution that would extend funding for the entire Department of 329 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,600 Speaker 2: Homeland Security, including ICE at current levels, full DHS, all 330 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:16,640 Speaker 2: of it, sixty days to figure out the rest of it. 331 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 2: It was clean, simple, and it fully funds the agency 332 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,719 Speaker 2: that's been shut down for forty plus days, more than 333 00:23:23,760 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: forty days and forty nights. And what did Chuck Humer 334 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 2: sayda dead on arrival there it is. That's the phrase 335 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:38,440 Speaker 2: at the beginning of their two week vacation. Two words 336 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:41,160 Speaker 2: that tell you everything you need to know about how 337 00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:50,080 Speaker 2: Washington actually works. Let's replay this scenario, because the symmetry 338 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,720 Speaker 2: here is for someone who really studies retail politics, it 339 00:23:54,840 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 2: is almost artistic in its sentences. Now, when the Senate 340 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 2: passed its partial funding bill, that's the one that left 341 00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: Ice and Border patrol hanging. House Republicans said that was 342 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,560 Speaker 2: dead on arrival, unacceptable. We can't spit the Department we 343 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: won't fund half an agency, and Johnson called the whole maneuver. 344 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,920 Speaker 2: Remember he called it a joke. First time we've seen 345 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 2: Mike Johnson actually show some emotion. He was really pissed off. 346 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,840 Speaker 2: Now the House passes a bill that funds the whole 347 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 2: department for sixty days in a clean, straightforward extension, and 348 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,160 Speaker 2: Schumer calls that dead on arrival. 349 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: So they're both. 350 00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: Calling everything dead on arrival. Now, Chuck Schumer's reason was, quote, 351 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 2: we will not give a blank check to Trump's lawless 352 00:24:41,920 --> 00:24:47,159 Speaker 2: and deadly immigration militia without reform. Boy, that's it's a 353 00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:52,879 Speaker 2: loaded statement. Lawless, a deadly immigration militia. 354 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: Woo. 355 00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 2: So, to summarize the current state of play in the 356 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:02,200 Speaker 2: entire Congress, bill is dead in the House, the House 357 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 2: bill is dead in the Senate. Both chambers are on 358 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,320 Speaker 2: a two week Easter vacation, and the Department of Homeland 359 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:12,120 Speaker 2: Security is still partially shut down. Now, the TSA workers 360 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,040 Speaker 2: are getting paid right now, and they're getting paid right 361 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 2: now because the President of the United States bypassed Congress 362 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 2: entirely and sign an executive order. Now, let me say 363 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,320 Speaker 2: that again, because I really deserve the land hard. The 364 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:31,160 Speaker 2: legislative branch of the United States government. That's the institution 365 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 2: that our founders designed specifically to control the power of 366 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 2: the person. Appropriations has been so completely paralyzed, so dysfunctional 367 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:48,560 Speaker 2: by this procedural kabuki theater going on, that the executive 368 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:53,639 Speaker 2: branch stepped in and wrote to check itself. I think 369 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: the author of the US Constitution, James Madison, I think 370 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 2: he's probably spending in his grave. 371 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. Three thousand RPMs, maybe more. I don't 372 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: believe now. 373 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 2: I haven't seen all the technicalities, but at face value, 374 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,120 Speaker 2: I don't believe that what Trump did is technically lawful. 375 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 2: I will say this is a caveat the Office of 376 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Management and Budget, with whom I have a lot of 377 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 2: experience in actually doing this, can move money around. But 378 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:33,359 Speaker 2: if there was never an appropriation to actually fund TSA. 379 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,360 Speaker 1: And that money has run out, there's. 380 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: Really technically no money for OMB to move around. I 381 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:49,680 Speaker 2: Mitch Daniels, former director of OMB, under my old boss 382 00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 2: Bush known as the Knife, that was his nickname. 383 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:57,240 Speaker 1: I had Brownie. He was the Knife. And what what. 384 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,640 Speaker 2: Mitch Daniels would do was I would go and say, look, 385 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,600 Speaker 2: we're running out of money here. I need some money 386 00:27:02,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 2: over here. It's all been appropriated, and he would just 387 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: through paperwork, just reshuffle the money because it had been 388 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 2: appropriated by Congress. That's not what's happening here. Which, again, 389 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 2: not seeing all the technicalities, I think what was done 390 00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: probably not lawful. But in that race of the question, 391 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 2: who's going to contest that? Nobody? I'll explain why. 392 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:28,920 Speaker 3: Hey, Michael, can you please explain to me why it 393 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 3: would be that nobody will actually wage an objection to 394 00:27:33,440 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 3: an improper expenditure of funds in an improper manner when 395 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,479 Speaker 3: actually all that matters is the political capital for paying 396 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 3: people like TSA, who is apparently a really really important 397 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 3: organization that we all should really support all the time. 398 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 2: Man, that was a long run on question. How many 399 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 2: words were in that question? 400 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,320 Speaker 3: Uh? 401 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Let me can this it down. 402 00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,760 Speaker 2: Why won't anybody sue claiming that or try to get 403 00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:07,800 Speaker 2: an injunction against Trump signing or doing whatever he's doing 404 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 2: with omb to pay TSA employees visa via an executive order? 405 00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 2: Why moving even shorter, why wout anybody sue to block 406 00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:22,000 Speaker 2: the executive order to pay TSA because that would expose 407 00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:25,560 Speaker 2: the fraud that's going on and who has standing. You 408 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 2: know this as a lawyer who has standing to bring 409 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,639 Speaker 2: that lawsuit. You and I don't have that standing. Every 410 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,400 Speaker 2: I imagine every federal district court in this country would 411 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 2: throw us out on emotion for sary judgment our a 412 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 2: motion to dismiss because we don't have standing. We're not 413 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 2: affected by that. We can't show any harm. So how 414 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 2: are we going to get a temporary restraining order? The 415 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 2: people who have standing are the people whose authority to appropriate. 416 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 2: They're the ones whose rules, rights, obligations are being violated 417 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,120 Speaker 2: by the executive branch, which is the legislative branch. They 418 00:29:08,160 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: won't sue because they would have to go in and 419 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 2: admit that, yeah, we're the ones that have caused all 420 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 2: this chaos at the airports because we're we're playing games. 421 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: That's why, politically will never get done. No, neither caucus 422 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 2: and as a whole. They would they would first have 423 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: to join, they'd have to get a majority to agree 424 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 2: to go file a lawsuit. The United States Congress versus 425 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,960 Speaker 2: you know, Donald J. 426 00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: Trump. They'll never get the vote for that. Hell's bells. 427 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 2: They can't get vote for squad. They couldn't get you know, 428 00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,160 Speaker 2: diet pepsi, diet coke. They never figure that one out either. 429 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: So you're telling me that this isn't something that Phil 430 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: Wiser could bring up since he loves. 431 00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Phil way, Yeah, maybe phil Wiser could do 432 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,480 Speaker 2: it just for show because he could get the headlines 433 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,560 Speaker 2: and of course Kyle Clark and the local media. We 434 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,040 Speaker 2: just go all of because look, old, look, Phil Wiser's 435 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 2: doing a great job. He's going after Trump, yay, and 436 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 2: then when he gets dismissed because he doesn't have standing. 437 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 1: Silence, silence, That's exactly what's going on. 438 00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 2: Somebody, I said earlier that I thought the author of 439 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 2: the US Constitution, James Madison, was spending in his grave, 440 00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 2: and I think I said at about three thousand rpm. Somebody, 441 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: very let's give him credit. Goober zero two two five, Michael, 442 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: Michael Madison is spending at. 443 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 1: Thirty nine trillion RPMs. 444 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 2: That's clever. That's very good, that's very very good. Here's where, 445 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 2: and obviously I'm gonna be able to send you this 446 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 2: in the segment, but here's where the role reversals that 447 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 2: are taking place between Schumer and Thun and then between 448 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,959 Speaker 2: the House and the Senate because that was a perfect mirror. 449 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 2: And this is where I really want to pay I 450 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: want you to pay attention, because this is the part 451 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,280 Speaker 2: that exposes the entire game. This is the game that 452 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:12,239 Speaker 2: I said earlier as to kind of set up some 453 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 2: context that at least I had not heard Fox News, 454 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 2: and certainly Fox News is queen to explain it. You 455 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:25,000 Speaker 2: know that MS now or MSA later or MS whatever 456 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 2: it is, or CNN and certainly the networks. Nobody's going 457 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 2: to explain this. So I'm going to do that in 458 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 2: the next hour. But let me just tell you kind 459 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:40,400 Speaker 2: of where I'm headed. For six weeks, Democrats blocked every 460 00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 2: attempt to fund ICE and Border Patrol, and Republicans kept saying, 461 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 2: you can't selectively defund an agency. You can't pick winners 462 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:51,400 Speaker 2: and losers inside homeland security. You got to fund everything, 463 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,920 Speaker 2: or you're playing politics with national security. 464 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: But then John Soon, a Republican I had. 465 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:00,880 Speaker 2: Passed the bill at two in the morning that did 466 00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 2: exactly what Democrats had been demanding, fund everything except I 467 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 2: send border patrol. So for six weeks, Republicans blocked every 468 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 2: Democrat attempt to pass piecemeal funding by using a procedural 469 00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 2: tool called unanimous consent. That's where if nobody says anything, 470 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 2: it passes. Democrats tried it multiple times. Each time a 471 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 2: Republican objected, so they stopped it. But then enter John Thuon, 472 00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:41,360 Speaker 2: a Republican that used that exact same piecemealimous unanimous consent 473 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: procedure to pass a bill that he knew Democrats would 474 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:53,000 Speaker 2: not object to because it gave them exactly what they wanted.