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Speaker 1: On news radio seven hundred W L Downe. Well, what

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Speaker 1: a day, What a day, What a day in college football.

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Speaker 1: Unbelievable turn of events at various places in college football yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We will get into all of that today, as well

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Speaker 1: as a little Bengals talk, because I think we're all

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Speaker 1: still kind of in awe of what happened on Thursday

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Speaker 1: night at pay Corpse Stadium. And I don't know about you,

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Speaker 1: but it was one of the more entertaining football games

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Speaker 1: I have seen in my life. Just what it looked like,

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Speaker 1: the Bengals might be down and out, up off the mat,

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Speaker 1: they come deliver the knockout blow and what do you know?

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Speaker 1: This team has got some life again, and a lot

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Speaker 1: of it obviously is all because of Joe Flacco. So

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Speaker 1: we'll get into that several times between now and twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: We have an NFL doubleheader today, two games beginning at

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Speaker 1: twelve thirty. Not sure which games those are, but nevertheless,

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Speaker 1: two NFL games at twelve thirty today, One I guess

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Speaker 1: one is at twelve thirty. One is at four o'clock.

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Speaker 1: And no Bengals until a week from today, so they've

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Speaker 1: got time to rest up. But we need to press on.

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Speaker 1: I was up late last night watching several things. I

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Speaker 1: was watching the UC game out at Oklahoma State. I

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Speaker 1: was watching the UK game down in Lexington, their game

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Speaker 1: against Texas goes into overtime, and also watching FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: So there was a lot of flipping back and forth.

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Speaker 1: But I'm going to start with UC because they've got

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Speaker 1: it going on right now. Now. Look, Oklahoma State is

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Speaker 1: in the middle of a bad year. They fired their

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Speaker 1: coach about three or four weeks ago. They're not a

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Speaker 1: team really that can deliver a lot of points. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I think they had scored seventy two points in their

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Speaker 1: last five games. And you see just takes care of business.

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Speaker 1: You're supposed to beat teams that you are better than,

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Speaker 1: and they did on the road last night in Stillwater, Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: The University of Cincinnati goes out there, takes on Oklahoma

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Speaker 1: State and comes away with a forty nine to seventeen win.

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Speaker 1: Forty nine to seventeen. U see goes to five and one,

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Speaker 1: three and zero in the Big twelve. Okay, there were

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Speaker 1: a lot of stories inside this game, the biggest of

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Speaker 1: which is that is win number six for UC. They

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Speaker 1: went in there five and one, they come out six

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Speaker 1: and one. Six wins means your Bowl eligible. What was

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Speaker 1: UC not last year? After starting the season five and two,

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Speaker 1: they never got to that sixth win. They have gotten

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Speaker 1: to that now, although they are certainly setting their sights

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Speaker 1: on more than just a bowl game. Here is Scott

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Speaker 1: Saderfield after the game in the UC locker room talking

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Speaker 1: to Tony Pike.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, you know, it's just it's an awesome feeling.

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Speaker 2: Number one, just the way they prepare. We had a

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Speaker 2: really good week of practice last week. You know, going

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Speaker 2: on a road in the Big twelve is tough to win.

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Speaker 2: I know, you know, Oklahoma State hadn't had a great

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Speaker 2: out here and win homecoming. You know, they played inspired

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Speaker 2: football on that side over there, and you know it

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Speaker 2: was a battle. I mean, we had four possessions in

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Speaker 2: the first half and you know, fortunately we scored on

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Speaker 2: all of them. And then the second half they came out,

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Speaker 2: they stopped, they went score. Now is a ball game.

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Speaker 2: So I'm proud of our guy. Is the way they

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Speaker 2: continue to fight and how they won the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was a game of ebbs and flows. UC

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Speaker 1: goes to the locker room at halftime up twenty eight

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Speaker 1: Then rallies to outscore Oklahoma State twenty one to nothing

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Speaker 1: This is a guy that certainly has been the shining

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Speaker 1: go back to Desmond Ritter to find a guy that

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Speaker 1: has had control of this offense and given his team

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Speaker 1: a chance to win. Now they finally got him players

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Speaker 1: this past offseason. But Soreersby goes twenty to twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: two seventy three touchdowns, no interceptions. He also rushes for

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Speaker 1: Matthew mcdous one hundred yard interception returned for a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: We've been talking about it for a long time this season,

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Speaker 2: we all know that I McDoom can run, and he

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Speaker 2: hit that sideline and he tiptoed a little bit there

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Speaker 1: I mean, that was incredible. We felt we fell. I

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Speaker 2: And then once he broke free, we knew he was.

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Speaker 2: And so just an incredible play by him and really

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Speaker 1: Again. The U see coach Scott centerfield in the locker

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Speaker 1: for Luke Fickle. This is a very, very disappointing year

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Speaker 1: for Wisconsin. That got even more disappointing after last night

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Speaker 3: You know, they were very stout in the box, and

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Speaker 1: Maybe guys mess after that. Yeah, And he's distributing the

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Speaker 4: It's always sorry.

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Speaker 5: There's a lot of destructions out there in college football,

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Speaker 5: things are extact. But then you also got to live

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Speaker 5: in a present moment and you can't affect the future.

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Speaker 5: You only can affect what's going on now. So we

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Speaker 5: just got to play football now. Word, But what's going

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Speaker 1: That's the way you play it.

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Speaker 1: You just can take care of what's in front of

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Speaker 1: He's been there a long time, but it has not

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Speaker 1: play hard. If you're a Kentucky fan, you can't look

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Speaker 1: And they lose again last night in overtime in Lexington

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Speaker 1: after the game, the question of Stoops was was it

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Speaker 7: but they were definitely creating some push down low as well.

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Speaker 1: He was very emotional after the game. He knows the

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Speaker 1: heats on him down there really is. But two and

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Speaker 1: Lexington on Saturday. Indiana is making a case on a

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Speaker 1: Now I know Ohio State, I know all about it,

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Speaker 1: but Indiana, who does not play Ohio State in the

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Speaker 11: Oh feeling good? Team finishes second by a point over

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Speaker 1: It is a good day for FC Cincinnati. You know

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Speaker 1: Right now, FC Cincinnati and the Week all have qualified

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Speaker 1: it just it seems Columbus's style and the way they

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Speaker 1: mark on the field, I just it's in my opinion,

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Speaker 1: it's just not a good matchup on paper for FC Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: What am I missing here? Now?

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Speaker 11: I think you're right. I think I think the coaching

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Speaker 11: style of Wilford Nante has always been the sort of

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Speaker 11: antithesis of Pat Noon, And even when Nansei was at Montreal,

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Speaker 11: which was not a very good team, a very low

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Speaker 11: spending team in this league, the Montreal f c Cincinnati

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Speaker 11: games then were wild four to three with a constant

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Speaker 11: score line, with wilfrid Nance getting the best of Pat

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Speaker 11: Noon in there. So I certainly think the style of

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Speaker 11: play is not great. What is helpful, though, is that

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Speaker 11: the Columbus crew have utterly collapsed down the back half

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Speaker 11: of this season. I think they've won two games over

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Speaker 11: the last month and a half. It's been rough for them.

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Speaker 11: They've had key injuries at a lot of big positions there.

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Speaker 11: They lost their big designated player for the rest of

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Speaker 11: the season. They're in a bad spot. So while the

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Speaker 11: matchup on paper isn't great and I would never discount

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Speaker 11: wilfrid Nance at all, I I think if you had

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Speaker 11: to play them this year this this is the exact

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Speaker 11: moment you want to be playing them.

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Speaker 1: And conversely, FC Cincinnati's put a lot of money into

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Speaker 1: its front line, you would hope that they can have

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Speaker 1: a little bit better result in terms of goals scored

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Speaker 1: against Columbus three last night against Montreal. I'm not comparing

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Speaker 1: Montreal to Columbus, but the fact of the matter is

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Speaker 1: three goals in one match that was probably at one

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Speaker 1: point this season four matches for a Cincinnati So I

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Speaker 1: mean it's the scoring has improved. I think it's imperative

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Speaker 1: they win game one. You've got you can't let Columbus

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Speaker 1: go back up North hosting game two if you're down

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Speaker 1: a game to them. If I'm if, I'm pat Noonan.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I'm getting more excited about this match

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Speaker 1: than he was in his postgame news conference last night. Well, secondly,

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Speaker 1: I'm telling him, look, dudes, we got to win this one. Somehow,

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Speaker 1: some way, we got to get game one. We're not

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Speaker 1: going up to Columbus down a game. I think it's

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Speaker 1: imperative that they win. They don't win that first game, Kevin,

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Speaker 1: I think they're in deep deep doo dooo. What do

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Speaker 1: you think?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, I agree with you. The one, the one little

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Speaker 11: sliver I would push back on is f C. Cincinnati

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Speaker 11: has been unbelievable on the road this year, like twice

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Speaker 11: as good on the road ten versus at home. I

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Speaker 11: think there is certainly a path for them to draw

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Speaker 11: at home and win on the road, and that would

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Speaker 11: be enough to get them through in two games. But yeah,

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Speaker 11: I think mentally though, that that is going to be

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Speaker 11: key for this team. I mean, the last time Columbus

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Speaker 11: crew came to Cincinnati f C CINCINNI went up like

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Speaker 11: two goals to nothing in the first I think it

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Speaker 11: was ten minutes, only to lose four to two in

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Speaker 11: that game. It was. It was a disaster. I think

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Speaker 11: mentally it took some time for the team to recover

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Speaker 11: from that. Yeah. I think even going down early in

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Speaker 11: that first game could could be devastating for this team

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Speaker 11: and their psyche. So I agree with you though that

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Speaker 11: that first game is really going to set the tone

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Speaker 11: on whether or not this is going to be a

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Speaker 11: Cincinnati team that just rolls and pushes over a bad

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Speaker 11: and broken Columbus team, or if we're going to have

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Speaker 11: to dig in and see three matches of gut wrenching soccer.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's what I worry about too. When you

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Speaker 1: have the kind of matches you've had against Columbus, regardless

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Speaker 1: of what state Columbus is in here in the last

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Speaker 1: couple of months, it plays to your mind. You know,

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Speaker 1: you play, you know everybody, you know. It's like anything

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Speaker 1: else in life, Kevin, Right, you remember the bad things

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Speaker 1: more than you remember the good things, right, And so

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Speaker 1: you don't want to get into a situation where there's

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Speaker 1: like wonderment inside the head of Obi or well mea

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Speaker 1: Osgar whoever. You don't want that like playing into it.

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Speaker 1: It should be focused time on task and if you

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Speaker 1: if you get that first game, I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of those demons go go away. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: on paper, twenty nine to five is a terrific season.

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Speaker 1: Sixty five points a terrific season. They've acquitted themselves well

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Speaker 1: against most of these teams in the East in the

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Speaker 1: in the regular season to make you think they've got

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Speaker 1: a great shot at getting out of their conference and

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Speaker 1: into that MLS Cup. We'll see. First things, First prediction

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Speaker 1: from you on this first round against Columbus. Who wins

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Speaker 1: and in how many games?

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Speaker 11: I think FC Cincinnati's got this, and I think they

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Speaker 11: got this in two games. But I hate to say

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Speaker 11: I think it's going to go the way I just

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Speaker 11: laid it out. I think it's a draw at home

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Speaker 11: and a win in shootouts and then a win up

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Speaker 11: in Columbus. So the TQ of faith Ball will be

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Speaker 11: robbed of seeing their team beat columbs This in regulation,

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Speaker 11: but I think overall it will be the result that

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Speaker 11: they want. And if I may just peeking ahead a

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Speaker 11: little bit on the path to MLS Cup Final. I

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Speaker 11: really like how this FC Cincinnati team matches up against

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Speaker 11: Nashville and Miami, and we would be facing one of

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Speaker 11: those two after this one. I like the path. I

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Speaker 11: like how it's laid out. I'm picking. I'm picking the

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Speaker 11: Origin Blue to get through in two.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll see. We're like every other Cincinnati in here, Kevin.

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Speaker 1: We expect the worst and hope for the best. It's

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Speaker 1: a way of works in our town. What is the

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Speaker 1: latest Cincy Post podcast coming out? For all the faithful listeners?

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Speaker 1: What is that out?

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Speaker 11: Yeah, we will have a new episode out tomorrow morning.

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Speaker 12: They usually go.

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Speaker 11: Up around seven in the morning, but yeah, we got

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Speaker 11: a new one coming out. It should be fun recapping

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Speaker 11: this looking ahead to Columbus a little bit unfortunately thanks

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Speaker 11: to the brilliance of Major League Soccer. Don't you know

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Speaker 11: when that game is? Could be Friday, could be Tuesday

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Speaker 11: next week. But we'll be breaking it down.

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Speaker 1: For you, all right, Kevin Wallace, The Sincy Post, it

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Speaker 1: is out there right now, and it's one of the

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Speaker 1: great listens for all things about the beautiful game. Kevin

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Speaker 1: and his co host Grayson and the Chef and you've

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Speaker 1: got to tune it in to really understand what it

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Speaker 1: is all about. All right, Kevin, stay well, you know

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Speaker 1: we'll be calling down the road.

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Speaker 11: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, Ken, have a good.

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Speaker 1: One, sir. Big win last night, second overall in points.

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Speaker 1: Not a bad season so far, but you gotta win

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. Nine to fifty four. News Radio seven

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Speaker 1: hundred w WELW.

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Speaker 13: Well W presents Sunday Morning Sports Talk with your host

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Speaker 13: Ken Brew on News Radio seven hundred.

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Speaker 1: W l W. Yes, Yes, good morning, even on a

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Speaker 1: dreary Sunday, Good morning, we gather around the lemonade stand

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Speaker 1: here to try and make sense of it all over

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Speaker 1: in London, fourteen nothing winning moments, first quarter as the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are scrapping to get back in this game against

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Speaker 1: the Rams. Jags have the ball on a third and

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Speaker 1: one Rams fourteen Jags zip with about thirty five minutes

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Speaker 1: to thirty five seconds to go in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: And of course, a plethoro of games later on this

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Speaker 1: afternoon and into tonight. Of course, the Bengals don't play today.

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Speaker 1: They played Thursday night and they won Thursday night, as

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Speaker 1: we know. In a thriller against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Nobody,

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Speaker 1: and I mean nobody expected sixty four total points in

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Speaker 1: this game, but that's what we got. You know what

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Speaker 1: else we got is after the game, as the faithful

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Speaker 1: were pouring out of pay Corpse Stadium, we heard this

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Speaker 1: chant black, go Flack, Go Flaco. Flaco. Who would have

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Speaker 1: thought even a month ago that Bengals fans would be

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Speaker 1: cheering Joe Flacco in Cincinnati. Unbelievable, but we all know

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Speaker 1: the turn of events that brought him here. But you

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Speaker 1: know it's kind of I think, humbling and yet exciting

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Speaker 1: for a player, it doesn't matter who it is, whether

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Speaker 1: it's a quarterback, could be a guy at the end

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Speaker 1: of the bench that made a huge playing the game.

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Speaker 1: It's got to be thrilling to hear that from the crowd.

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Speaker 1: Flacco has always been one of the more cerebral quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: in the league, and he was asked after the game

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Speaker 1: about that, about the enthusiasm, the embracement that you've provided

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Speaker 1: for him as he has come here to try and

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Speaker 1: save this season until Joe Burrow gets back. Here's what

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Speaker 1: he had to say. This is one of the best

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Speaker 1: answers to a question I have heard in a very

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Speaker 1: long time.

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Speaker 14: I feel like that's what fans do. They want their

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Speaker 14: football team to win, and it just happens that I'm

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Speaker 14: the guy right now that's behind the center. You know,

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Speaker 14: the same thing with players, like, yeah, you're loyal to

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Speaker 14: the guys that you're in the locker room with, and

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Speaker 14: you're loyal to the game of football, and you really

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Speaker 14: enjoy playing in these cities.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's such.

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Speaker 14: I feel so fortunate to have been able to now

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Speaker 14: play in so many different cities and just see that

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Speaker 14: different people and how they react. It gives you a

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Speaker 14: new appreciation for these fans. Like I honestly never really

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Speaker 14: loved coming here and playing That was unbelievable tonight, you know,

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Speaker 14: like and Cincinnati would kind of put.

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Speaker 1: It on us.

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Speaker 14: I feel like most of my career, especially when we

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Speaker 14: came here, so I didn't necessarily love here. But now

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Speaker 14: I get to have a new perspective, at least for tonight.

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Speaker 14: And the fans, I mean even just around town, they've

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Speaker 14: been great. I mean, you know, saying what's up or whatever.

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Speaker 14: So they're obviously very quick to forget and happy to.

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Speaker 1: You know that we're going through this, and so am I. Well,

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Speaker 1: there you go. Next up the Jets one week from today.

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Speaker 1: The Jets are not good. They're at home today against

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Speaker 1: Carolina and the Jets are getting a point and we'll

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Speaker 1: see how that one turns out with maybe some mild

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Speaker 1: interest as we build towards the next one seven days

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Speaker 1: from now. But it was a big night Thursday night.

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Speaker 1: If you were there, you know that you witnessed it.

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Speaker 1: Not very very many black and gold decked out people.

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Speaker 1: And that's an anomaly too here in Cincinnati. Normally when

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Speaker 1: the students come to town, you see a lot of

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Speaker 1: black and gold in the stadium. Didn't see that. It's

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Speaker 1: a lot of white. It's a white out night at

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Speaker 1: pay Care at pay Corps. And it worked out. But

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Speaker 1: the road behind us and the road ahead now becomes

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Speaker 1: the topic as we welcome in one of the finest

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Speaker 1: sports writers in the country, somebody that understands the game

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Speaker 1: inside out, what works for one of the most analytical

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Speaker 1: websites that's out there, but does not let those metrics

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Speaker 1: make your eyeballs roll in the back of your head

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Speaker 1: when he starts talking about, well what they talk about

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Speaker 1: on Pro Footballfocus dot Com. He is a good guest

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Speaker 1: of this program. He is Bradley locker, and he is

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Speaker 1: standing by to join us right now. And Bradley, how

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Speaker 1: are you on this glorious sunday you and very well.

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Speaker 4: Ken really appreciate you having me on. I'm excited to.

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Speaker 15: Break down what was definitely a very encouraging result in

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Speaker 15: any ways for the Angles on thres.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, uh, okay, let's let's just dive right into it. Nobody,

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Speaker 1: I think expected eight hundred and sixty six yards of

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Speaker 1: total offense between the two teams, let alone the point

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Speaker 1: total in excess of sixty. I know you didn't. I

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Speaker 1: certainly didn't. Did this game simply get out of hand

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Speaker 1: or was there something else going on here?

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Speaker 15: I think you're right that no one really just sated

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Speaker 15: it was going to be this highest scoring, and there

651
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Speaker 15: was a lot of fanker coming in about the age

652
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Speaker 15: of the quarterbacks. But I think it really just stems

653
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Speaker 15: from the fact that I really did not think that

654
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Speaker 15: this is a good matchup at all for Cincinnati's offense,

655
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Speaker 15: in particular its offensive line, which really really had struggled

656
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Speaker 15: to pass per sacks for the vast majority of the season,

657
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Speaker 15: and on top of that, run the ball with any

658
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Speaker 15: type of efficiency. And both of those were really, really,

659
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Speaker 15: I would say mitigated in this game against the Steilers

660
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Speaker 15: defense that had certainly started to find its rhythm over

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Speaker 15: the last few weeks. And I think a lot of

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Speaker 15: credit does have to go to Joe Flaco, of course,

663
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Speaker 15: and I think there's been a lot of attention on

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Speaker 15: his performance with the Bengals, but just a really analytically

665
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Speaker 15: sound performance by our metrics at eighty one point one

666
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Speaker 15: PFF passing great, two big time throws, zero turnover where

667
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Speaker 15: he plays, and he gets a BOT in an average

668
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Speaker 15: of two point two seven seconds, which is a really

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Speaker 15: strong way to mitigate a pass rush as good as

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Speaker 15: what the Steelers have.

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Speaker 4: But on top of that, I.

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Speaker 15: Think a lot of plauts are in order for how

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Speaker 15: good this Bengals rushing game looks. Chase Brown secured a

674
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Speaker 15: ninety point seven PFF rushing great, and he averaged eight

675
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Speaker 15: point nine yards after contact per atten. That's a really

676
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Speaker 15: astonishing number considering that you're getting almost a first down

677
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Speaker 15: every time he's getting touched by Steelers defender. So of

678
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Speaker 15: course a lot of it is as a Steelers defense

679
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Speaker 15: looks probably as bad as we've seen all season, and

680
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Speaker 15: quite as bad as you've seen in a long time.

681
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Speaker 15: But conversely that the Bengals offense is maybe starting to

682
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Speaker 15: play like the un know we anticipated in terms of

683
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Speaker 15: rushing the ball and passing with efficiency.

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Speaker 1: And you flip it on defense. Now, when you have

685
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Speaker 1: this much offense in these many points, it's it's not

686
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Speaker 1: a good night for anyone, really, But the Bengals defense

687
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Speaker 1: with a couple of drive stops, an interception that leads

688
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Speaker 1: to a touchdown, another innerception that leads to a field goal.

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Speaker 1: My point being is this was a game that for

690
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh cried out for a stop, cried out for a turnover.

691
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Speaker 1: They didn't get it. The Bengals got them what was

692
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Speaker 1: just a horrific throw by Rogers. The other was just

693
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Speaker 1: as strategically great play by the Bengals secondary. So I

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Speaker 1: guess turnovers matter.

695
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Speaker 15: No, It's a really really salient point. And talking about

696
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Speaker 15: that dead interception, I think one of the really bright

697
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Speaker 15: spots for the Bengals defense, as he said, in a

698
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Speaker 15: game where maybe there weren't a lot of stanafs defensively,

699
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Speaker 15: was actually DJ Turner and this is now the third

700
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Speaker 15: straight game that he has really played like a fatuous player.

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Speaker 4: In coverage.

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Speaker 15: He recorded an eighty eight point eight PFF coverage grade.

703
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Speaker 15: He was only targeted. He started five times and only

704
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Speaker 15: allowed two catches for forty three yards and had that

705
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Speaker 15: tremendous interception against DK Metcalf and also knocked away another pass.

706
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Speaker 15: Just a thirty one point seven pass rating when targeted.

707
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Speaker 15: And I think this is a really prompting sign for

708
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Speaker 15: a Bengals defense that needs kind of young, stayn aful

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Speaker 15: tributar as players who can be building blocks on the

710
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Speaker 15: defensive side of the ball moving forward. And I think

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Speaker 15: at the same time, it is fair to acknowledge that

712
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Speaker 15: the Bengals pass or us really really languished without Trey

713
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Speaker 15: Hendrickson totally just really ten pressures on the entire night,

714
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Speaker 15: and no Bengal had above a sixty seven point zero

715
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Speaker 15: be a best passed rush grade.

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Speaker 4: So the fact that Cincinnati could at.

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Speaker 15: The very least maybe makes them, as you said, his

718
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Speaker 15: crucial kind of defining plays on a night when it

719
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Speaker 15: was not as the best player. Has to feel somewhat

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Speaker 15: good about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, the Steelers defense just couldn't penetrate Flaco

722
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Speaker 1: got great protection. Let's talk about that. Why did we

723
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Speaker 1: see that Thursday night? Why haven't we seen that before this.

724
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Speaker 1: Was it strictly Flacco and maybe his ability to release

725
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Speaker 1: the ball as quickly as we just talked about, or

726
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Speaker 1: was it just Flaco with his ability to see the

727
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Speaker 1: field whereas maybe Jake Browning didn't get to see the

728
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Speaker 1: field the same way.

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Speaker 15: I think part of it definitely stems from from what

730
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Speaker 15: I was talking about that Flaco did an outstanding job

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Speaker 15: of getting the ball out of his hands quickly, as

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Speaker 15: I talked about, kind of that ability to that average

733
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Speaker 15: time to throw two point twenty seven seconds, but sixty

734
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Speaker 15: seven for three percent of his dropbacks on Thursday night

735
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Speaker 15: came within two point five seconds or less than on

736
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Speaker 15: those plays, he recorded eighty one point two PFF passing grade,

737
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Speaker 15: whereas even when he held the ball for longer, it

738
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Speaker 15: still was a pretty solid returning with a seventy point

739
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Speaker 15: three PFF passing grade. But quick, decisive, accurate quarterbacking is

740
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Speaker 15: the best way to mitigate a pass rush. But I

741
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Speaker 15: think even just looking at them the other offensive line metrics,

742
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Speaker 15: Blaco was kept clean on sixty five zero point three

743
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Speaker 15: percent of his dropbacks, and when he was kept clean,

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Speaker 15: he was fabulous. Was he went twenty four for thirty

745
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Speaker 15: two with two hundred and forty seven yards, three touchdowns

746
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Speaker 15: and the ninety one point four PFF passing grade. And

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Speaker 15: I thought even Flacam made really tremendous series under pressure

748
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Speaker 15: as well. He had that I think it was that

749
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Speaker 15: dime down the field to Andre Yoshi vas and overall

750
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Speaker 15: Flaca wasn't quite as stupendous under pressure. But even the

751
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Speaker 15: Bengals offensive line I think does deserve from credits, particularly

752
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Speaker 15: on the edges Orlando Brown Junior and Mary As the

753
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Speaker 15: man Is combined, who allowed six pressures and only one

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Speaker 15: stack in the team, and considering the quality of the

755
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Speaker 15: opponent and the Steelers boasting probably the best pass rush

756
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Speaker 15: in the NFL with t J. Watt, Alex Highsmith and

757
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Speaker 15: Nick Herby, I think that's the result you'll take every time.

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Speaker 1: Oh they ran the ball too, didn't they? Bradley. I mean,

759
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Speaker 1: we have not seen a running attack at all this season,

760
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Speaker 1: and in this game Thursday night, the average six point

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Speaker 1: two yards per carry Chase Brown, he was missing in

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Speaker 1: action eleven carries one hundred and eight yards. I'm just

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Speaker 1: we talked about the ability to protect Flacco, there was

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Speaker 1: the ability to create space for this running game to

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Speaker 1: get going finally, So overall, I guess, and I don't

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Speaker 1: have the numbers in front of me, maybe you do.

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Speaker 1: This had to be the best game the Bengals offensive

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Speaker 1: line has played all season.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think definitely offensively.

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Speaker 15: I was double checking before we hopped on that was

771
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Speaker 15: indeed the highest EVA for play mark by the Bengals

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Speaker 15: offense altogether, and in terms of offensive line trying to

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Speaker 15: see what type of data we can gather, there were

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Speaker 15: I guess a few week spots along the offensive line

775
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Speaker 15: in terms of PFF grading available here, but even Dalton

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Speaker 15: Risner the left guard with a sixty one point two

777
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Speaker 15: overall PFF grade, I think Jalen River did right guard

778
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Speaker 15: was probably the low point. I had a thirty eight

779
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Speaker 15: point six overall PFF grade and did struggle in pass protection,

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Speaker 15: allowed one sack and five pressures and getting massed up

781
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Speaker 15: with seemed like Cameron Hayward for much of the night

782
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Speaker 15: was not really a strong suit for the Bengals rookie

783
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Speaker 15: right guard. But I think as the team, Cincinnati's offensive

784
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Speaker 15: line produced fifty five point nine PFF pass blocking grade,

785
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Speaker 15: which is probably not on par for what this team

786
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Speaker 15: has been so far this season, and just overall fifty

787
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Speaker 15: nine point zero overall grade.

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Speaker 4: For the Stngals offensive line.

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Speaker 15: So I guess that that is revealing in and of

790
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Speaker 15: itself that the offensive line maybe wasn't quite as spectacular,

791
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Speaker 15: and that sense to lend to the thoughts that flackout

792
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Speaker 15: did a really strong job of just getting the ball

793
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Speaker 15: out of that and even too looking at some of

794
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Speaker 15: the rushing metrics, and one of the things I really

795
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Speaker 15: love doing is breaking down yards before and after contact.

796
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Speaker 15: Before contact more of a representation is good blocking, and

797
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Speaker 15: after contact, more of the player doing its strong job.

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Speaker 15: And consider that the Bengals average five point one yards

799
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Speaker 15: or five point one additional yards after contact compared to

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Speaker 15: only one yard before contact, and I think it's clear

801
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Speaker 15: that it was more Cincinnati's running backs, in particular Chase

802
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Speaker 15: Brown just shedding a lot of tackles by Pittsburgh as

803
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Speaker 15: opposed to great run.

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Speaker 4: Blocking by Cincinnati offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Bradley Locker, ProFootball Focused dot Com or guests talking about

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Speaker 1: this past Thursday night. Now, let's look ahead for the

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Speaker 1: Bengals right now. Cincinnati looks good. They were back on

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Speaker 1: their feet. They played the Jets here next Sunday. That

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Speaker 1: looks like an eminently winnable game. Then the Bears come

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Speaker 1: to town. The Bears are good. I wouldn't call them great,

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Speaker 1: but that looks like it should be a winnable game.

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Speaker 1: Then they go to Pittsburgh, then they come home and

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Speaker 1: play the Patriot. So then they go to Baltimore. I'm

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Speaker 1: just getting things looking ahead here. Here they stand out

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Speaker 1: three and four. Do you think Thursday Night is the

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Speaker 1: start of a trend or do you think the road

817
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Speaker 1: that has been bumpy the last four weeks before Thursday

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Speaker 1: Night continues to be bumpy for them.

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Speaker 15: It's a tough question to definitively answer. I think if

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Speaker 15: your Cincinnati at this point, you want to just give

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Speaker 15: yourself a fighting chance by when Joe Burrow comes back,

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Speaker 15: which seems like it's probably about two months away. But

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Speaker 15: I think one thing that is on the pluck doc

824
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Speaker 15: for Cincinnati is that according to the metrics the PFF

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Speaker 15: has that the Angles actually played one of the easier

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Speaker 15: schedules left.

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Speaker 4: The Bengals rank twenty sixth in.

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Speaker 15: Scheduled difficulty remaining, which is the seventh easiest in the NFL.

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Speaker 15: But I will say it is behind the Browns and

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Speaker 15: the Ravens as well, and the Steelers are a little

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Speaker 15: bit on the harder side, have the eleventh hardest schedule left,

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Speaker 15: But I think I want to say this is a

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Speaker 15: kind of more flash in the pan for Cincinnati. This

834
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Speaker 15: offense was seemed supremely better than what we have seen

835
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Speaker 15: over the last few weeks, and I don't necessarily know

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Speaker 15: that the Bengals are going to get this type of balance,

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Speaker 15: in particular from the run game against any other team.

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Speaker 15: And I think it's also fair to point out that

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Speaker 15: the Steelers historically have just been really, really bad on

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Speaker 15: Thursday night on the road against the divisional opponents, and

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Speaker 15: that did not obviously change the past Thursday against Cincinnati.

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Speaker 15: So I think it will be a tougher assignment for

843
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Speaker 15: Joe Flacker to maintain this type of play that he

844
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Speaker 15: is on, and in particular to have the least as

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Speaker 15: I talked about, a rushing game that can comment, we

846
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Speaker 15: know that Blacko and T Higgins and Marshes can do

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Speaker 15: through the air. So I think at the very least,

848
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Speaker 15: the Bengals this is the game that they have to

849
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Speaker 15: win if they wanted to stay relevant by the time

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Speaker 15: Burrow comes back.

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Speaker 4: And I think they're shaping up to do that and

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Speaker 4: maybe try to make a lay push at the postseason.

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Speaker 1: It was a great night for senior citizens everywhere Thursday

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Speaker 1: night in Cincinnati, Bradley Locker, who was still decades away

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Speaker 1: from being a senior citizen, we thank you for your time.

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Speaker 1: Stay well. We need to hear your voice.

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Speaker 4: Okay, yeah, of course, thanks the much for having me

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Speaker 4: like that.

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Speaker 1: Should absolutely the look the only the only caveat I

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Speaker 1: would put to all of that. On Thursday night, Pittsburgh

861
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Speaker 1: had one hundred and forty seven yards rushing. One hundred

862
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Speaker 1: and forty seven yards rushing, that is, Jalen Warren had

863
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Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty seven of those. So again, defensively,

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Speaker 1: this team isn't there yet. It's a It's a team

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Speaker 1: that is predicated on making big plays taking the ball away,

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Speaker 1: but consistently play to play. I still need to see more.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to see a team get dragged up

868
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 1: and down the field and then have to rely on

869
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,839
Speaker 1: an interception or some other kind of play to get

870
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Speaker 1: the ball bag.

871
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 10: Uh.

872
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: But I think other you know, the other thing trying

873
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 1: to get better against the run, and I don't know

874
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 1: how you do that in the middle of a season.

875
00:45:51,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: This was this was a game. Defensively, I thought that

876
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: was that was ok it was okay, It was good

877
00:45:56,320 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 1: enough to win. And it was much better obviously in

878
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: the second half than it was in the first half,

879
00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,840
Speaker 1: There's no question about that. But yeah, you got to

880
00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,600
Speaker 1: clamp down on the run. He gave up three almost

881
00:46:06,640 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: four hundred yards to Pittsburgh overall. Yes, you ran up

882
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,120
Speaker 1: over four hundred almost five hundred yards of offense for

883
00:46:13,160 --> 00:46:17,120
Speaker 1: the Bengals, but you got to get better against the run.

884
00:46:17,960 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 1: Not being able to control the run allows teams of

885
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:26,600
Speaker 1: lesser talent to hang around longer in games. The more

886
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: you can run, the more you can hang around longer

887
00:46:29,600 --> 00:46:31,560
Speaker 1: in games. And you don't want to do that with

888
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: teams like the Jets and to a lesser degree like

889
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 1: the Bears coming up. But nevertheless, it was a win

890
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 1: and a magic night in Cincinnati. Black Omania has engulfed Cincinnati.

891
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:47,919
Speaker 1: Who would have thunk ten twenty three News Radio seven

892
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Speaker 1: hundred wl W, Lee Stirling and the Bullpenoty with this year.

893
00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:56,320
Speaker 1: In about six or seven minutes, He's got five games

894
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Speaker 1: he's convinced will come home as winners for you. Today

895
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Speaker 1: in the National Football League, the Rams and the Jaguars

896
00:47:06,080 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: play on second quarter over there across the pond in England.

897
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:14,400
Speaker 1: Fourteen to nothing, Los Angeles. As the Jaguars lineup for

898
00:47:14,440 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 1: a field goal to at least try and make something

899
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Speaker 1: happen offensively, and it hooks wide left, six point fifty

900
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 1: eight to go. Second quarter, it remains fourteen to nothing Rams,

901
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: fourteen nothing Rams. We have an NFL doubleheader for you

902
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:34,240
Speaker 1: beginning at twelve thirty today. Since there's no Bengals games,

903
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,879
Speaker 1: why not why not have a little doubleheader action here.

904
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: It's also a night where the World Series could be

905
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:47,560
Speaker 1: could be settled, and they're playing games six tonight and

906
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: they're playing it in Toronto, and quite frankly, this is

907
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 1: a big game for Toronto. They win and they play on,

908
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 1: they lose, they go home. Series is three to two Seattle.

909
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:02,680
Speaker 1: Right now, Seattle's going to start right hander Logan Gilbert.

910
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,480
Speaker 1: Trey is Savage for the Toronto Blue Jays. This guy

911
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 1: had a decent outing against the Yankees in the division

912
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 1: series and that was kind of a surprise when the

913
00:48:16,480 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: Blue Jays decided to start him. But nevertheless, he gets

914
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: the follow up act here to try and keep the

915
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 1: Blue Jays alive. In the American League Championship Series. The winner,

916
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,200
Speaker 1: of course gets the Los Angeles Dodgers. That is at

917
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 1: eight o'clock tonight, first pitch. This is Game six Seattle

918
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 1: at Toronto. Stand by at least Stirling is next on

919
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:42,759
Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW. They won nothing lead over the Jaguars

920
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,839
Speaker 1: still from time on the clock second quarter. They got

921
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 1: a game in the NFL has a game in Madrid

922
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: and Berlin still to come this year. They try to

923
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 1: take the game internationally, and I understand the way the

924
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:57,920
Speaker 1: NFL wants to do things. They want to market globally

925
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:00,800
Speaker 1: because the number one thing that's important to every single

926
00:49:00,920 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: NFL owner is not winning a Super Bowl, it's making

927
00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: as much money as possible. And so this is a

928
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: way to grow the game globally and make more money.

929
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:12,040
Speaker 1: That's the name of the game in the NFL. Make

930
00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,359
Speaker 1: more money, even if it puts you with a fan

931
00:49:14,520 --> 00:49:19,400
Speaker 1: in some sort of inconvenience taking home games away from teams.

932
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,200
Speaker 1: You know, you think you're going to get eight nine

933
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,880
Speaker 1: games at home, and you wind up with one fewer

934
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:29,000
Speaker 1: than that be interesting to see in publicly funded stadiums,

935
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:34,800
Speaker 1: or as they say in proper English, in publicly funded stadium.

936
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: It would be interesting to see how much revenue is

937
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:43,120
Speaker 1: lost by losing one home game to a venue like

938
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:47,080
Speaker 1: in London or Madrid or Berlin, and what that means

939
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:52,160
Speaker 1: for the city itself. The devil and the details of

940
00:49:52,200 --> 00:49:57,080
Speaker 1: these leases on publicly funded stadiums. I'm sure have language

941
00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,880
Speaker 1: in there that if a game is, for example, chosen

942
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: for a London game or Berlin game, there's some sort

943
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: of rebate to whoever holds the lease, be it a county,

944
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:10,480
Speaker 1: be at a city, be it whomever. But what does

945
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: it mean for the ansidary business around the stadium, the restaurants,

946
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:18,279
Speaker 1: the bars, the parking and all things like that. That

947
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:22,600
Speaker 1: would be an interesting deep dive story that I would

948
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 1: expect from one of the many great journalists here in

949
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,319
Speaker 1: the greater Cincinnati area. So we got a lot of

950
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,600
Speaker 1: great NFL action around the league today, a lot of

951
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: good games at four h five, a lot of interesting

952
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:40,560
Speaker 1: games later on, including Atlanta at San Francisco. The forty

953
00:50:40,600 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: nine ers are giving two in that game against Atlanta.

954
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: That's the Sunday night game. And of course there are

955
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: two games tomorrow night, two Monday night football games here

956
00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:52,799
Speaker 1: To give you five winners that he is convinced will

957
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,719
Speaker 1: bring money into your coffers if you listen to him.

958
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,960
Speaker 1: Is our good buddy from Paramount sports dot com. Least

959
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: it's early. All right, let's go, Lee. How are you

960
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:04,279
Speaker 1: on this glorious game day?

961
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 6: I am great, and hopefully the winning continued. So been

962
00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:11,760
Speaker 6: one of maybe the greatest one we've ever had Paramount

963
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:15,719
Speaker 6: Sports history. So four weeks ago on the five games

964
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:21,520
Speaker 6: we have available on Sunday, won five and oh. Three

965
00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,560
Speaker 6: weeks ago five and oh, two weeks ago five and

966
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,520
Speaker 6: oh again, and then I let everyone down last week.

967
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,319
Speaker 6: I only went four four and one on a nineteen

968
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:38,279
Speaker 6: and one run. So anyone wants to get involved. I

969
00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:40,680
Speaker 6: think we're seeing in the NFL pretty well. We also

970
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 6: had Cincinnati on Thursday night wins outright plus five and

971
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:45,280
Speaker 6: a half.

972
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:46,239
Speaker 1: How about this?

973
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:49,720
Speaker 6: The next four weeks of NFL games, five games every

974
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:51,759
Speaker 6: single Sunday, just one.

975
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 4: Hundred and ninety seven dollars.

976
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:57,600
Speaker 6: So you want to get It's called Lee's NFL Sunday

977
00:51:57,640 --> 00:52:01,440
Speaker 6: Golden Ticket. Four weeks total, twenty games, five a week

978
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,320
Speaker 6: for the next month, just one hundred and ninety seven dollars.

979
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,879
Speaker 1: One place. Paramount Sports dot com man, you are our role.

980
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 1: By the way, how about that Battle of the aged

981
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,799
Speaker 1: huh on Thursday night? Was that great to see two

982
00:52:13,840 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: forty year old guys going at it? That was one

983
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: of the Bengals won. It was wonderful, But it was

984
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:18,719
Speaker 1: wonderful to see that, was it?

985
00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 4: Not?

986
00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 12: It was?

987
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:21,319
Speaker 4: It was?

988
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:25,160
Speaker 6: So I think we know now the arms obviously go last,

989
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:28,279
Speaker 6: maybe the league before that, but there are both both

990
00:52:28,360 --> 00:52:30,000
Speaker 6: quarterbacks arms look pretty darn good.

991
00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: Yeah they did, they did. All right. Let's talk about

992
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: a team where you live. Dolphins one and five at

993
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,560
Speaker 1: the one in five Browns. Browns are giving two and

994
00:52:36,560 --> 00:52:39,600
Speaker 1: a half, the Dolphins twenty ninth and the league in

995
00:52:39,680 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: points allowed, and Cleveland is averaging just under fourteen points

996
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 1: a game. Is anybody going to score in this game?

997
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 1: That's the big question? What do you think?

998
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 6: Well, I think Cleveland's actually going to score because I

999
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:55,239
Speaker 6: think Miami defense is that bad. So I would not

1000
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 6: consider taking Cleveland on the road. Went against them last.

1001
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 4: Week, but the Steelers got nice big win.

1002
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,000
Speaker 6: That was one of our five wins. And Miami right

1003
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:07,720
Speaker 6: now is a mess. This roster construction they put together,

1004
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 6: This team maybe the worst we've ever seen. Everyone knew

1005
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:14,080
Speaker 6: about the cornerback position being a problem and on offensive

1006
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,879
Speaker 6: offensive line, but front seven is horrendous. I mean they

1007
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:21,880
Speaker 6: allowed Carolina doll Will run for over two hundred and

1008
00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 6: then of the Dell last week, commanding Madell from the Chargers.

1009
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 6: He runs and he's your number four running back for

1010
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:32,160
Speaker 6: one hundred and twenty four yards on eighteen carries. That's

1011
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 6: six point nine yards for carry.

1012
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:34,680
Speaker 1: Here.

1013
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,399
Speaker 6: I just can't back the Dolphins. They should make this game.

1014
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,360
Speaker 6: Who whichever team loses the GM head coach, goodbye. You

1015
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 6: got to find your if Miami, you got to find

1016
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 6: your own way home. I love Cleveland here seventeen to.

1017
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:52,319
Speaker 1: Ten, seventeen ten Browns in a barn burder. A little

1018
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:54,320
Speaker 1: bit different game out in Los Angeles. You got the

1019
00:53:54,400 --> 00:53:57,280
Speaker 1: Chargers at four and two hosting the five and one Colts.

1020
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:00,359
Speaker 1: Chargers are giving a point and a half Sandy. They

1021
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: got to worry about tight end Tyler Warren, he's having

1022
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: a fantastic year and Jonathan Taylor Indianapolis. Though they can

1023
00:54:07,120 --> 00:54:10,480
Speaker 1: get to Justin Herbert. They got tackle problems on that

1024
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,320
Speaker 1: side of the ball in San Diego. But San Diego

1025
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,320
Speaker 1: is at home. What do you think.

1026
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 6: They are at home. But you know when you got

1027
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 6: tackle problems eventually, and they're good players. They're talking about

1028
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 6: their best two offensive lineman usually shows on the other side. Indianapolis,

1029
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:29,280
Speaker 6: no problems at all. They've got the NFL leading rusher

1030
00:54:29,560 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 6: and Jonathan Taylor.

1031
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 4: Some people will be fooled.

1032
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:34,879
Speaker 6: Into thinking your Chargers are fine. They won last week,

1033
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 6: but they were playing the Dolphins, and I think this

1034
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,440
Speaker 6: Indianapolis team generating the NFL defenses that get run against

1035
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:45,960
Speaker 6: the least are on teams that have the most success,

1036
00:54:46,000 --> 00:54:48,600
Speaker 6: and the Colts opponents have running on them for only

1037
00:54:48,719 --> 00:54:52,200
Speaker 6: thirty six point two percent of the snaps. Jonathan Taylor

1038
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:56,760
Speaker 6: is in fine and form. Danny Dimes working the play.

1039
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: Action here, run team favorite who Colts straight up?

1040
00:55:00,600 --> 00:55:02,120
Speaker 4: Twenty four to twenty twenty.

1041
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 1: Four to twenty cold straight up? All right, man, they're

1042
00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,759
Speaker 1: on a roll. You go to six and one. The

1043
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: Chiefs get received rice back today and that's a huge

1044
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,320
Speaker 1: thing for them. They got the Raiders in Kansas City,

1045
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: and the Raiders are getting a big fat twelve in

1046
00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:22,239
Speaker 1: this game. I see double digit numbers, Lee, I don't.

1047
00:55:22,360 --> 00:55:24,839
Speaker 1: I just kind of like stay away from them. Where

1048
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: are you on this one? With that fat twelve that

1049
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: the Chiefs have to give up.

1050
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:31,680
Speaker 6: Well pretty cup to back them here, because when you

1051
00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,880
Speaker 6: lay that kind of lumber in the NFL, you're going

1052
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 6: to hit barely a little above forty percent over the

1053
00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 6: last decade. I know Chiefs receiver Received Rice is coming back,

1054
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,680
Speaker 6: but the week to play them is not the first

1055
00:55:42,719 --> 00:55:44,359
Speaker 6: week when key players come back.

1056
00:55:44,440 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: It's the second week.

1057
00:55:46,120 --> 00:55:50,399
Speaker 6: Teams after facing Tennessee thirty four to twenty and two

1058
00:55:50,440 --> 00:55:53,200
Speaker 6: against the spread, So everyone gets right after you play

1059
00:55:53,520 --> 00:55:56,279
Speaker 6: the Titans. And that's the Raiders in Kansas City.

1060
00:55:56,360 --> 00:56:00,719
Speaker 16: Is the team multiple multiple Super Bowl appearances, titles, and

1061
00:56:00,760 --> 00:56:04,320
Speaker 16: they're just fourteen and eighteen against the spread last thirty

1062
00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 16: two at home. Raiders always play the Chiefs tough, especially.

1063
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: In Kansas City.

1064
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 6: Here Kansas City escapes.

1065
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:14,440
Speaker 1: Twenty eight twenty three, twenty eight to twenty three KC.

1066
00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:21,160
Speaker 1: But Raiders with the points, I guess is what you're saying, right, yeah, right, gotcha? Okay, Okay.

1067
00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: The Broncos Man, we had the Broncos here about three

1068
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,720
Speaker 1: or four weeks ago. They bring it with the pressure,

1069
00:56:26,760 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 1: they lead the lig in sacks. But here come the

1070
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: Giants today at two and four, and they got the

1071
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 1: one two punch. It looked pretty good last week, Jackson

1072
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:38,160
Speaker 1: Dart cam Scattibou seven is what the Broncos are laying

1073
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: in this game. That doesn't seem enough to me for

1074
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 1: the Giants, But how does it seem to you?

1075
00:56:44,920 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 6: You know, one of the ten rules I have I

1076
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:51,920
Speaker 6: had ten rules I always go by is to never

1077
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:55,279
Speaker 6: lay points when the offense is struggling. And that's the

1078
00:56:55,320 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 6: Denver Broncos.

1079
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:57,120
Speaker 4: I mean, there's a.

1080
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 6: Lot of high flash year with boon Nicks, but this

1081
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:02,319
Speaker 6: offense is bottom third in the league, scoring twenty one

1082
00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:05,839
Speaker 6: or fewer points here in for the six games. So

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00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take I'm gonna take the g Men plus

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00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 6: to seven.

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00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: Oh okay, not a bad deal there. Before we hit

1086
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: our last game again. That's Lee's NFL's Sunday Golden Ticket

1087
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,400
Speaker 1: Buck ninety seven. And where does that get your lead? Again?

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00:57:23,920 --> 00:57:25,880
Speaker 6: What that gets you is you're gonna get four weeks,

1089
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,920
Speaker 6: five games a week, one hundred and ninety seven dollars.

1090
00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:31,840
Speaker 6: My twenty best play is going over the next four weeks.

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Speaker 1: Twenty games, twenty games. Okay, Bucks at Lions is our

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00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,960
Speaker 1: last game. Bucks five and one, lines four and two

1093
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:42,120
Speaker 1: Lions are giving five and a half Detroit thirty points

1094
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: plus in five straight home games going back to last year,

1095
00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: and historically they play well after a loss. Here they

1096
00:57:49,160 --> 00:57:51,760
Speaker 1: are today giving or tomorrow giving five and a half

1097
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 1: to the Bucks who are who are red hot. How

1098
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:56,600
Speaker 1: do you see it? Yep?

1099
00:57:57,120 --> 00:58:00,400
Speaker 6: And the Bucks are hot and their NFL's road warriors

1100
00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 6: thirteen and five against the spreading that role under Todd Bowles.

1101
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,000
Speaker 6: But when they played last year in Tampa Bay one

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00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 6: twenty to sixteen, Detroit was one for seven in the

1103
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,400
Speaker 6: red zone. How about this ster pin and two after

1104
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,560
Speaker 6: a loss under Dan Campbell. Here, sometimes you got a

1105
00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 6: little bit when you want to play it Detroit Big

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00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 6: thirty four twenty one.

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Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, I was shake it up. Baker comes back

1108
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Speaker 1: to earth. All right, hey Lee, good luck this week.

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00:58:25,480 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 1: I don't need to wish you that. You seem like

1110
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:29,480
Speaker 1: you're just on a red hot roll. And we'll visit

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00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: again next week. Stay well, okay, thanks Ken, take care

1112
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 1: you bet? Yeah, And they get Mike Evans back tomorrow night.

1113
00:58:37,560 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: It looks like Mike Evans is going to be back

1114
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: for the Buccaneers and a Mecca Abuka may play. They're

1115
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: talking now that he may play in this game tomorrow night.

1116
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:50,600
Speaker 1: He was injured last week. But god Win is out

1117
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: for Tampa. But if they get a Buka back and

1118
00:58:52,840 --> 00:58:55,160
Speaker 1: they get Evans back, that's night and day compared to

1119
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 1: what it looked like for them a couple of days ago.

1120
00:58:57,360 --> 00:59:01,120
Speaker 1: But still Lee likes the line. Give the five and

1121
00:59:01,120 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: a half. He says, Lions thirty four to twenty one.

1122
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,880
Speaker 1: Other picks you just heard. He's taking the Browns at

1123
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: home today over the Dolphins. The Dolphins are awful, awful.

1124
00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: The Browns aren't that much better on offense. They're laying

1125
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 1: two and a half. He says, seventeen to ten. Browns.

1126
00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: They not only win, they cover. He likes the Colts

1127
00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 1: going to play at Los Angeles at the Chargers. He

1128
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Speaker 1: said they're going to win straight up, twenty four to twenty.

1129
00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: Don't worry about the point and a half. He likes

1130
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 1: the Chiefs to win, but he thinks the Raiders win

1131
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: with the points. That's a hefty number. Twelve, And he

1132
00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: takes the Giants on the road at the Broncos. The

1133
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: Giants are getting seven, says he's not going to need them.

1134
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,680
Speaker 1: Take the Giants. Take the gm in in a Broncos

1135
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,560
Speaker 1: with a Broncos team that is struggling offensively. So there

1136
00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 1: you go. That's his picks. We'll let you know next

1137
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:53,280
Speaker 1: week exactly how he did. There's a couple of other

1138
00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:59,760
Speaker 1: games that I think are interesting today, and some of

1139
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: them are, you know, downright difficult to handicap. You got

1140
01:00:04,320 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 1: you got the Eagles playing at Minnesota, and Minnesota is

1141
01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: they're not ready to go back to McCarthy. Wentz is

1142
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:20,720
Speaker 1: going to start Philadelphia. To me, although not the Philadelphia

1143
01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,840
Speaker 1: we saw last year. I think it's going to be

1144
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 1: a big day for Saquon Barkley. I just do, and

1145
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: so I don't. I'm not even sure you're going to

1146
01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: need to worry about that two point that two point margin.

1147
01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:37,280
Speaker 1: I you know, I think Philly wins that game and covers.

1148
01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: That's that's one of the games. I'm looking at. The

1149
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 1: other game I'm looking at and honestly, it's it's it's

1150
01:00:47,440 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: another tough one to handicap. You got Atlanta going to

1151
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:57,440
Speaker 1: play at San Francisco. Now Atlanta san Francisco. It's interesting

1152
01:00:57,440 --> 01:01:00,920
Speaker 1: in this, In this, in this standpoint, San Francisco is

1153
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: finding how to win somehow, some way without its starting quarterback.

1154
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:11,040
Speaker 1: The line on this game is San Francisco minus one.

1155
01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: Michael Pennix is is having a really solid year. Mac

1156
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:26,880
Speaker 1: Jones is resurrected himself. I don't know how. I just

1157
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,320
Speaker 1: I don't. It's a system, certainly. I think he's out

1158
01:01:29,320 --> 01:01:34,560
Speaker 1: there and he's he's flourishing in the system. McCaffrey really

1159
01:01:34,600 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: hasn't dropped it into gear yet. He's got three touchdowns.

1160
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:40,440
Speaker 1: He's catching the ball out of the backfield. I mean

1161
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,600
Speaker 1: he's but he is. He has not really been the

1162
01:01:43,680 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: kind of guy that he was before he got hurt

1163
01:01:48,080 --> 01:01:53,360
Speaker 1: two years ago. Over last year, actually forty nine ers

1164
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: are banged up. Fred Warner's on ir he's not playing

1165
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:03,520
Speaker 1: terrific linebacker. Uh, you got Kevin Gibbons their their terrific

1166
01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:08,760
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. It's got a peck problem. Not expected back

1167
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:14,120
Speaker 1: may It's probably going to be uh next week before

1168
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:17,120
Speaker 1: they get him back. And on the UH and on

1169
01:02:17,160 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: the Atlanta side of things, you've got you got the

1170
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 1: the offensive tackle, Tyrone Wheatley. He's out, he's on I

1171
01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:29,800
Speaker 1: r been there will be there. Not expected back at

1172
01:02:29,800 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 1: all this season. And uh Tae Kwon Graham is another

1173
01:02:36,120 --> 01:02:39,640
Speaker 1: missing piece for them may They they were thinking maybe

1174
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: he could answer the bell this weekend, but he's questionable.

1175
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:44,640
Speaker 1: We'll see at the end of the My point being

1176
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: in all of this is there's so many players that

1177
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: are banged up. San Francisco at home four and two,

1178
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,200
Speaker 1: and I just I just sense that with the way

1179
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: the way Jones is playing, with without you know, with

1180
01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 1: without brock perty, the way Jones is playing, it is

1181
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:07,200
Speaker 1: more of a controlled type of offense. The big plays

1182
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,600
Speaker 1: really aren't there. I'm just thinking, I'm just going to

1183
01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:13,960
Speaker 1: take San Francisco at home, you know, I'm I'm going

1184
01:03:14,040 --> 01:03:16,280
Speaker 1: to give Atlanta to We're going to take San Francisco

1185
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,760
Speaker 1: going home, and just you know, say look it's home.

1186
01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 1: Jones is now at least reliable at quarterback. That's the

1187
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:28,240
Speaker 1: other one I'm looking at, in addition to the games

1188
01:03:28,280 --> 01:03:32,160
Speaker 1: that we've already talked with with Lee Stirling. But there's

1189
01:03:32,200 --> 01:03:35,360
Speaker 1: some there's some there's some mismatches, there's some blowout games.

1190
01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:38,760
Speaker 1: There's some games that have absolutely no interest. I think

1191
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 1: to anyone Carolina, the Jets, who you know, who cares

1192
01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:46,280
Speaker 1: about that? Green Bay Arizona? Green Bay should roll that team.

1193
01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: But there's a couple in there because of injury and

1194
01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 1: because of the way they're starting to play in and

1195
01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:56,360
Speaker 1: around their talent that I think are really interesting. That

1196
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: Las Vegas Kansas City game is a really interesting game

1197
01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:05,320
Speaker 1: only because of the number. Kansas City giving twelve, the

1198
01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:10,640
Speaker 1: other get rice back, but they're giving twelve anyway. Over

1199
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Speaker 1: across the pond, twenty one nothing, Rams one, twenty eight

1200
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,040
Speaker 1: to go in the half, A couple of four and

1201
01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:19,840
Speaker 1: two teams Rams and Jacksonville. It's ten fifty four. News

1202
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Speaker 1: Radio seven hundred WLW on News.

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Speaker 13: Radio seven hundred w l JEM.

1204
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Speaker 1: It's eleven h eight and welcome on in as we

1205
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: cruise right to a doubleheader of NFL football beginning at

1206
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Speaker 1: twelve thirty today. No Bengals today, obviously, after the win

1207
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: on Thursday Night, Big Night, last night out in the

1208
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,880
Speaker 1: planes out in Stillwater, Oklahoma, the University of Cincinnati goes

1209
01:04:43,880 --> 01:04:46,479
Speaker 1: to six and one, four and oh in the Big

1210
01:04:46,520 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: twelve with a forty nine seventeen win over Oklahoma State.

1211
01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: Brandon Soresby strong again, twenty of twenty nine, two seventy

1212
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: three touchdowns, no interceptions, and he also had a rushing

1213
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: touchdown as well. And now you begin to look at

1214
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: the landscape of the Big Twelve for a number of reasons. One,

1215
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati is right there at the top.

1216
01:05:09,560 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 1: Texas Tech. Texas Tech goes down a Texas Tech number

1217
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 1: seven in the country goes down eight to Arizona State

1218
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: twenty six to twenty two this weekend, and all of

1219
01:05:21,360 --> 01:05:23,959
Speaker 1: a sudden, now it seems like there are a number

1220
01:05:24,040 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: of teams that are sitting out there, including the University

1221
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:30,560
Speaker 1: of Cincinnati, that are saying to themselves, hey, why not us?

1222
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:35,320
Speaker 1: Why not us? As Big Twelve champions and having a

1223
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: chance to play for a spot in the College Football Playoff?

1224
01:05:38,640 --> 01:05:41,280
Speaker 1: Someone who follows the Big Twelve intently about to join

1225
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 1: us right now. Chris Hummer writes for cbssports dot Com

1226
01:05:45,400 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: has a good story, really good story up there right

1227
01:05:48,000 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: now on that Texas Tech Arizona State game, and he's

1228
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:53,040
Speaker 1: kind of enough to give us some time here on

1229
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:56,760
Speaker 1: seven hundred WYLW. Chris, how are you on this glorious Sunday?

1230
01:05:58,520 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 11: Doing great?

1231
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 17: Yeah, it's going to be a busy sunday in college football?

1232
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah it is. You watch a lot of football from

1233
01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: what I can piece together. You're a Texas guy born

1234
01:06:08,400 --> 01:06:10,400
Speaker 1: and raised in the lone Star state. Am I right

1235
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 1: about that? Yeap?

1236
01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:12,880
Speaker 12: Correct?

1237
01:06:13,120 --> 01:06:13,360
Speaker 1: All right?

1238
01:06:13,600 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 4: Raised in the Dallas area.

1239
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 1: All right, So you know a lot about college football.

1240
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:19,680
Speaker 1: You watch a lot of college football. How good is

1241
01:06:19,720 --> 01:06:21,600
Speaker 1: the University of Cincinnati in your opinion?

1242
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 12: Ah?

1243
01:06:24,320 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: Good?

1244
01:06:25,040 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 17: But I think we're going to know a lot more

1245
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:29,160
Speaker 17: about Cincinnati in the second half of the schedule than

1246
01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:32,160
Speaker 17: we do in the first. But I think there are

1247
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 17: several NFL players on Cincinnati's roster. I think they've done

1248
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 17: a really good job restocking that roster through the transfer

1249
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 17: portal and developing. And do I see some potential concerns

1250
01:06:44,120 --> 01:06:48,560
Speaker 17: from Cincinnati, Sure, but they're certainly a big twelve contender

1251
01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 17: at this point. If you can go three and two

1252
01:06:50,600 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 17: the rest of the way on the schedule, like give

1253
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 17: a legitimate chance of making it.

1254
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:57,120
Speaker 1: Darlington, Okay, let's talk about what you like. What do

1255
01:06:57,160 --> 01:06:59,520
Speaker 1: you like about that team? Then we'll get into the concerns.

1256
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,720
Speaker 17: I think Brentan Summersby be one of the best quarterbacks

1257
01:07:03,720 --> 01:07:06,439
Speaker 17: in college football. I think they do an excellent job

1258
01:07:06,520 --> 01:07:09,160
Speaker 17: scheming things up offensively. I think they're going to score

1259
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 17: on anyone. I think that offensive line is so much

1260
01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 17: better than it was a season ago. I think you

1261
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:22,160
Speaker 17: have NFL talent at receiver, particularly just Caldwell. Defensively, I

1262
01:07:22,160 --> 01:07:24,600
Speaker 17: think Jake Goldie might be my favorite player to watch

1263
01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:29,760
Speaker 17: in the Big twelve period, just so fun. And that

1264
01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:31,520
Speaker 17: side of the ball is better this year.

1265
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,240
Speaker 1: So yeah, those.

1266
01:07:33,080 --> 01:07:34,840
Speaker 12: Are those of things I like about Cincinnati.

1267
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:39,240
Speaker 1: Yep, they're capable of electrifying plays. And you're right about Soersby.

1268
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:42,520
Speaker 1: I just every week he seems to do something different

1269
01:07:43,280 --> 01:07:45,440
Speaker 1: that helps his team win. All right, what are the

1270
01:07:45,480 --> 01:07:47,640
Speaker 1: concerns what you say that you have concerns about them?

1271
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:51,880
Speaker 1: What are the concerns you have, Chris about them?

1272
01:07:52,280 --> 01:07:58,000
Speaker 17: Well, Cincinnati has a habit of losing leads. Cincinnati has

1273
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 17: a habit of giving up many yards defensively, and it

1274
01:08:02,760 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 17: can be different things each week. Sometimes it's against the run,

1275
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 17: like it wasn't Saturday, I gets Olhoma State.

1276
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 11: Sometimes they get caught up through the air.

1277
01:08:09,880 --> 01:08:13,040
Speaker 17: Soorsby, as good as he is, makes one or two

1278
01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:15,080
Speaker 17: play a game that really make you scratch your head

1279
01:08:15,080 --> 01:08:20,439
Speaker 17: a little bit. And situationally, I wonder about some of

1280
01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:23,599
Speaker 17: the play calling and how they handle those moments. But

1281
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 17: I think the team is really good and I god

1282
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:28,960
Speaker 17: be surprised if they didn't win eight or nine games

1283
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:30,000
Speaker 17: this year at a minimum.

1284
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,240
Speaker 1: Okay, So you say, if they go three and two

1285
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,519
Speaker 1: over this back half of the schedule, these final five

1286
01:08:35,560 --> 01:08:37,840
Speaker 1: games in the schedule, they would be right there in

1287
01:08:37,880 --> 01:08:42,920
Speaker 1: the mix for the Big Twelve championship. Okay. So I

1288
01:08:42,920 --> 01:08:45,720
Speaker 1: think what you're saying is you don't anticipate any of

1289
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:48,639
Speaker 1: these teams that are unbeaten so far in the conference.

1290
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:51,400
Speaker 1: You don't anticipate any of them going unbeaten the rest

1291
01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 1: of the way. Am I right about that?

1292
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 17: I would be very surprised just Cincinnati or BYU finished

1293
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Speaker 17: the season.

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Speaker 4: I'm beaten in conference.

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Speaker 11: Play, the reality of the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 17: This is a year of parody in college football, and

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Speaker 17: the margins are tighter than they've ever been in a

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Speaker 17: league like the Big Twelve, and I think it's gonna

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01:09:09,360 --> 01:09:11,760
Speaker 17: be hard for either one of those teams to run

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Speaker 17: the table. I honestly, even with BYU and Cincinnati, I'm

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Speaker 17: beating at this point, I would still be surprised if

1302
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Speaker 17: there wasn't at least one two loss team in the

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Speaker 17: Big Twelve championship game. I think that's just going to

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Speaker 17: be the Yeah, I think that's just gonna be the

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01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,000
Speaker 17: reality of the league. And I mean, like Cincinnati or

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01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:31,599
Speaker 17: Cincinnati or BYU is going to take a lost guarantee

1307
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Speaker 17: no matter what since they play each other. So it's

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Speaker 17: a it's a difficult thing. And TCU plays both of

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01:09:37,720 --> 01:09:39,880
Speaker 17: those teams down the stretch. I think TCU is very

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Speaker 17: capable of beating at least one of them. BYU still

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01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 17: also play Texas Techs. That could very well be a loss.

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Speaker 17: Like there's a lot of central hazards along the way

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Speaker 17: for both teams.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So Baylor up next in here on Saturday at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock for homecoming, and then I'm just going to

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Speaker 1: run through the rest of the schedule at No. Umber

1317
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Speaker 1: twenty three, currently number twenty three Utah back home against

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Speaker 1: Arizona home against number fifteen BYU, and then finishing the

1319
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Speaker 1: season at TCU on November the twenty ninth. I'm just

1320
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Speaker 1: looking at this schedule right now. Every one of those

1321
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Speaker 1: teams the University of Cincinnati should be competitive against. That's Saturday,

1322
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Speaker 1: November twenty second game against BYU, even though it's late

1323
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Speaker 1: in the year here in the Upper Midwest, that is

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Speaker 1: screaming for prime time viewership. Would you agree, Yeah, I don't.

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Speaker 17: I don't know what the rest to the games that

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Speaker 17: week look like, but yeah, Like if I was a partner,

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Speaker 17: I don't. I guess ESPN in this case, I'd be

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Speaker 17: very interested in having that is a night game potentially,

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Speaker 17: and depending on how those two teams finish the rest

1330
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Speaker 17: of the way, Like maybe it's a situation for game

1331
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Speaker 17: days in town, Like you could legitimately see that depending

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Speaker 17: on how like it goes. If BYU's unbeaten in Cincinnati

1333
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Speaker 17: is still unbeaten at that point in conference play, like, yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's going to be a top ten, top twelve showdown,

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Speaker 17: and you could have like cause game Dantown depending where

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Speaker 17: things go.

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Speaker 1: You're not ruling out Texas Tech at this point, right,

1338
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Speaker 1: even given what happened the other night, I.

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Speaker 17: Still think Texas Tech's the best team in the league.

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Speaker 1: So definitely not Okay, So Texas Tech could conceivably run

1341
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Speaker 1: the table, right and and and could win this thing.

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Speaker 1: I think what I think, what I'm hearing for you

1343
01:11:22,920 --> 01:11:30,760
Speaker 1: is BYU, Cincinnati, Texas Tech, Arizona State, maybe Houston. The

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,479
Speaker 1: winner comes from that group of teams. I mean, then

1345
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Speaker 1: you get into the Iowa States and the TCUs of

1346
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: the world. I'm just I'm wondering. Is the cutoff line

1347
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:41,200
Speaker 1: at three to one Houston right now?

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Speaker 12: I don't.

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Speaker 17: I don't think so. I think Utah could still run

1350
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 17: the table. I think, depending on how things go, I

1351
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:51,920
Speaker 17: think TCU could still run the table. I'm not as

1352
01:11:51,960 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 17: bullish on like a Kansas, Kania State, Baylor, Iowa State,

1353
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,640
Speaker 17: but I think depending on how things go, like, I

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Speaker 17: would not rule out tc YOU or Utah. I think

1355
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Speaker 17: both teams are really good, and I don't know if

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Speaker 17: it'll be Houston. I think Houston just has own some

1357
01:12:09,520 --> 01:12:12,759
Speaker 17: issues offensively that are are going to hurt it against

1358
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Speaker 17: the better teams of the league.

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Speaker 1: All Right, So the Baylor is in here for homecoming

1360
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Speaker 1: this coming Saturday. TCU took care of Baylor in a

1361
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:27,080
Speaker 1: terrific game, actually, forty two to thirty six. Other two

1362
01:12:27,080 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: and two over their last four Baylor can score points.

1363
01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:33,320
Speaker 1: We know that there's no question about their offensive ability.

1364
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Speaker 1: What do they specifically here at UC What do they specifically,

1365
01:12:38,479 --> 01:12:42,480
Speaker 1: in your opinion, have to worry about with Baylor this weekend?

1366
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Speaker 17: The offense, I mean, Baylor scores on anyone they run.

1367
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:50,400
Speaker 17: It's not like a traditional air aid, Like what do

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Speaker 17: you think of with Mike leachs by Jake Savata. Their

1369
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 17: offensive coordinators run that's probably the closest thing to it

1370
01:12:56,680 --> 01:12:59,439
Speaker 17: in current college football. And they're going to throw forty

1371
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:02,960
Speaker 17: or fifty times a game. They tend to go for

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Speaker 17: it on fourth down almost every time. Like they're one

1373
01:13:05,040 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 17: of the more aggressive teams in the country. Like, you

1374
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:10,160
Speaker 17: got to you gotta tackle well in space is what

1375
01:13:10,200 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 17: Cincinnati really has to do in that game. And I

1376
01:13:13,960 --> 01:13:15,519
Speaker 17: would I don't know what the over is going to be,

1377
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 17: but I bet it would be seventy plus. Like this

1378
01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:18,800
Speaker 17: is going to be a game where points are going

1379
01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:20,080
Speaker 17: to be at a premium and you got to take

1380
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 17: advantage of every scoring opportunity.

1381
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Speaker 1: Right, Okay, Chris hummercbssports dot Com, AR guests, we've been

1382
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:29,080
Speaker 1: talking about Big twelve football, University of Cincinnati. I want

1383
01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:31,240
Speaker 1: to hit you with a couple of other things. How

1384
01:13:31,280 --> 01:13:36,960
Speaker 1: good is Fernando Mendoza And is he top three for

1385
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:39,679
Speaker 1: the Heisman or even better than that? In your opinion?

1386
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 4: I think he's really good.

1387
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Speaker 17: I think he's going to be a guy that next

1388
01:13:45,160 --> 01:13:47,640
Speaker 17: April is going to be in the converstation to be

1389
01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,360
Speaker 17: a first round pick, and yeah, I mean, I don't know,

1390
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Speaker 17: he's not first, second, or third on my imaginary Heisman ballad,

1391
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 17: I suppose, but he's in the top five or six

1392
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:00,599
Speaker 17: and he has a chance to really make push down

1393
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 17: the stretch. But yeah, he's really good. He was really

1394
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 17: good for Cal last year. I just don't think a

1395
01:14:05,920 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 17: lot of people pay attention. And then you put him

1396
01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,519
Speaker 17: in Kurt Secondaty system where he has I don't want

1397
01:14:11,560 --> 01:14:15,360
Speaker 17: to say easy throws, but like it's an RPO based offense,

1398
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 17: where like they scheme it up as well as anybody

1399
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 17: in the country, and you put somebody that talented in

1400
01:14:20,479 --> 01:14:23,759
Speaker 17: that system and the results are the results are pretty obvious,

1401
01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 17: Like they're really good.

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01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:30,760
Speaker 1: Was the best off season acquisition portal included was the

1403
01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: best off season acquisition Ohio State hiring Matt Patricia as

1404
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,120
Speaker 1: their defensive coordinator.

1405
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Speaker 17: I don't know about that. I guess we'll see the

1406
01:14:42,840 --> 01:14:44,799
Speaker 17: rest of the year, but there's no question that I'llhio

1407
01:14:44,840 --> 01:14:47,040
Speaker 17: State's playing as good of defensive football and anybody in

1408
01:14:47,120 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 17: the country. I think I thought stat that they're one

1409
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 17: of only like five teams the last like twenty years

1410
01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:58,920
Speaker 17: to allow less than seventy points through their first seven games.

1411
01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:02,479
Speaker 17: So yeah, playing awesome football and outside of the ball,

1412
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,879
Speaker 17: we'll see what it looks like. Went Ohio State State's

1413
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:09,479
Speaker 17: better offensive competition. If you look at the teams they've

1414
01:15:09,479 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 17: played this year, it hasn't exactly been stellar. But I'm

1415
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,280
Speaker 17: not trying to take anything away from Ohio State's defensive effort.

1416
01:15:14,280 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 17: They've been really, really good. I don't even know if

1417
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 17: we'll find out into the playoffs, to be honest, like

1418
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,560
Speaker 17: Penn State, Perdue, UCLA, Rutgers, Michigan don't scare you offensively,

1419
01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:25,800
Speaker 17: so we'll see what that unit's really good.

1420
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Speaker 1: You don't said it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't say. Okay,

1421
01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,439
Speaker 1: maybe I think what you're saying was an overstatement on

1422
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,160
Speaker 1: my part, but you're not discounting the fact that that

1423
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 1: team that has been searching for some defensive stability over

1424
01:15:38,600 --> 01:15:41,080
Speaker 1: the course of the last four or five years is

1425
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:42,639
Speaker 1: a hell of a lot better than what it's been.

1426
01:15:43,400 --> 01:15:45,760
Speaker 1: But you're not ready to annoying Patricia yet. Is that

1427
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:46,360
Speaker 1: what you're saying.

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01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:49,960
Speaker 17: Well, I mean, I thought say had the best defense

1429
01:15:50,000 --> 01:15:54,120
Speaker 17: in college football last year. What I'm impressed by is

1430
01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:58,320
Speaker 17: their front. Like Larry Johnson, their defensive line. Coach had

1431
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,080
Speaker 17: to replace four starters three NFL Raft picks, and they

1432
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:05,920
Speaker 17: haven't taken a step back. That is really impressive. And

1433
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 17: I think Matt Patrich has done a really nice job.

1434
01:16:09,320 --> 01:16:11,519
Speaker 17: But there have been a lot of important additions in

1435
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:15,680
Speaker 17: college football this year. You mentioned Fernanda Mendoza being one

1436
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:18,400
Speaker 17: of them. Sure, I know Carson Beck just had a

1437
01:16:18,400 --> 01:16:21,040
Speaker 17: really rough game at Miami, but he's been very important.

1438
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 17: John Mattier has transformed Oklahoma's offense. You could go a

1439
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,960
Speaker 17: lot of directions with that, but yeah, Matt Patrick has

1440
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:31,320
Speaker 17: been really, really good, and I think the tests for

1441
01:16:31,400 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 17: him will come later in the year. I think it's

1442
01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,360
Speaker 17: better offensive competition.

1443
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:38,479
Speaker 1: You and I visited earlier in the week, and Sundays

1444
01:16:38,479 --> 01:16:42,120
Speaker 1: are busy for you, not just because of the results

1445
01:16:42,160 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 1: of Saturday and the polland that comes out and whatnot,

1446
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:47,080
Speaker 1: but also we're in that part of the year when

1447
01:16:47,160 --> 01:16:49,880
Speaker 1: coaches lose their jobs and there's been a lot of

1448
01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 1: buzz around Mark Stoops at Kentucky. Kentucky played text as

1449
01:16:53,720 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: well last night. The play calling in that overtime period

1450
01:16:58,280 --> 01:17:01,960
Speaker 1: I don't think was the best. They lose in overtime

1451
01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:06,320
Speaker 1: sixteen thirteen. Mark Stoops and his press conference last night

1452
01:17:06,360 --> 01:17:09,080
Speaker 1: with the media was really worked up emotionally and just

1453
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: seemed like he was almost questioning his own future at Kentucky.

1454
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:18,360
Speaker 1: How much of that do you think is real? And

1455
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: how much of that do you think is just the

1456
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 1: normal stuff that happens at this time of the year

1457
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,559
Speaker 1: all over college football?

1458
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 17: Could he repeat the last part of that question, I'm sorry,

1459
01:17:30,400 --> 01:17:31,519
Speaker 17: how much do I think what is real?

1460
01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:31,920
Speaker 8: Well?

1461
01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:36,080
Speaker 1: How much of do you think the Stoops? There was

1462
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,000
Speaker 1: a rumor out a couple of weeks ago that he

1463
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,040
Speaker 1: tried to get a buyout done, and he denied it

1464
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: vehemently that he said, I'm not a quitter. I'm not

1465
01:17:43,240 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: that his buyout right now is an inorted amount of money.

1466
01:17:47,400 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 1: My question is, is he was really emotional at his

1467
01:17:49,880 --> 01:17:52,559
Speaker 1: news conference last night after the game, and I'm just

1468
01:17:52,680 --> 01:17:55,880
Speaker 1: wondering how much of it do you think the buzz

1469
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 1: around his tenure in Lexington is real or how much

1470
01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:03,439
Speaker 1: of it is just what pops up every at every

1471
01:18:03,520 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 1: point at this time of the season, every year, at

1472
01:18:05,880 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 1: this point in the season about coaches and stability. I'm

1473
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 1: just wondering where you think he is from a ten

1474
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: year standpoint at Kentucky.

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Speaker 17: I mean, I think Kentucky, when was the last time

1476
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:25,080
Speaker 17: they've lost like like ten conference camps in a row?

1477
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: And mine?

1478
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:26,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm making that.

1479
01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:31,080
Speaker 17: Up right, like I'm looking at it. They've lost, yeah

1480
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:33,920
Speaker 17: about they haven't won a conference camp since Old Miss

1481
01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 17: last September, right, So I would imagine that's where a

1482
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:38,639
Speaker 17: lot of emotion comes from. That was a very winnable

1483
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:40,880
Speaker 17: game from them last night. They outplayed Texas. They just

1484
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,920
Speaker 17: didn't execute at the end and get that game done.

1485
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 17: And although I think Kentucky suned some additional signs of life,

1486
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 17: I think Cutter Bowlie said much better the last couple

1487
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:55,320
Speaker 17: of weeks. There are certainly questions about his tenure throughout

1488
01:18:55,479 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 17: kind of the industry. He may have Vie a million

1489
01:18:58,560 --> 01:19:01,040
Speaker 17: denied it, but questions are going to continue about Mark

1490
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:01,839
Speaker 17: Jus's future.

1491
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:03,360
Speaker 11: Hey do you.

1492
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,040
Speaker 17: Mind if I I'm sorry, I need to take a

1493
01:19:06,040 --> 01:19:06,920
Speaker 17: call here in a minute.

1494
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:13,559
Speaker 1: Sorry you say take out you uh door dash something? What?

1495
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:15,840
Speaker 1: What uh I mean? If you gotta go? You gotta go, man,

1496
01:19:15,840 --> 01:19:18,200
Speaker 1: I'm not going to keep you. I just I was

1497
01:19:18,240 --> 01:19:20,000
Speaker 1: just wondering your thoughts and all that. But no, no,

1498
01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:22,519
Speaker 1: take the call. Don't worry about it, and uh maybe

1499
01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:23,559
Speaker 1: we can visit next time.

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Speaker 17: Huh yeah, Hey, I am so sorry. This is this

1501
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:28,880
Speaker 17: is a very busy Sunday morning.

1502
01:19:30,280 --> 01:19:32,880
Speaker 1: Okay, you go ahead and do that and then we

1503
01:19:32,920 --> 01:19:34,719
Speaker 1: will tell you what we'll do. We'll go to CBS

1504
01:19:34,760 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: Sports and we'll see what it's all about here in

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Speaker 1: a little bit. Maybe if it's a big deal, it's

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01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,439
Speaker 1: a big deal. Okay, sounds good.

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01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 17: I am so sorry.

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01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:49,840
Speaker 1: All right, stay well good. I had to take a

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01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 1: call now. It's kind of like when you gotta go,

1510
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:56,800
Speaker 1: you gotta go. But anyway, I thought his insight on

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01:19:56,920 --> 01:20:01,760
Speaker 1: UC was good and we'll see about Kentucky. Stoops look

1512
01:20:02,000 --> 01:20:04,400
Speaker 1: very worked up after the game last And it might

1513
01:20:04,439 --> 01:20:06,559
Speaker 1: have been the emotion of losing a close game like that,

1514
01:20:07,520 --> 01:20:09,760
Speaker 1: and it might have also been the fact is he

1515
01:20:09,800 --> 01:20:12,559
Speaker 1: pointed out that he hadn't won a big twelve I'm

1516
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:16,440
Speaker 1: sorry an SEC game since oh miss the year ago September.

1517
01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:20,200
Speaker 1: But it was some odd play calling in that overtime.

1518
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,320
Speaker 1: You get first in goal on the five and then

1519
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 1: the four straight running plays, two dives over the center,

1520
01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,280
Speaker 1: and it was just like, what not sure about that?

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01:20:28,760 --> 01:20:32,719
Speaker 1: Sixteen thirteen Texas beats Kentucky yesterday. All right, it's eleven

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Speaker 1: twenty four, it is Sunday Morning Sports Talk. It is

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Speaker 1: seven hundred WLW.

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Speaker 13: OH News Radio seven hundred w l W presents Sunday

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01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:45,080
Speaker 13: Morning Sports Talk with your host Ken Brew on news

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01:20:45,200 --> 01:20:47,439
Speaker 13: Radio seven hundred w l L.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, donus tamp hour here today we're leading into some

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01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:54,280
Speaker 1: NFL football. Bottom of the hour. It's the Patriots at

1529
01:20:55,200 --> 01:20:58,479
Speaker 1: the Titans, and Tennessee is getting seven at home in

1530
01:20:58,520 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: this game. You'll hear all of that. And then afterwards

1531
01:21:01,200 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 1: Indianapolis against the Chargers at of Los Angeles where the

1532
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:10,759
Speaker 1: Chargers are giving two at this point to the Indianapolis Colts.

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01:21:11,280 --> 01:21:14,040
Speaker 1: Both those games on WLW, and for good reason why

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Speaker 1: we have no Bengals game today. The Bengals, of course,

1535
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,840
Speaker 1: on Thursday night a thriller. Both teams Bengals and Steelers

1536
01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:26,599
Speaker 1: lit it up. Sixty four total points, eight hundred and

1537
01:21:26,800 --> 01:21:30,880
Speaker 1: sixty six yards of total offense in that game was

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01:21:30,920 --> 01:21:35,400
Speaker 1: Thursday night. A stabling of the ship was Thursday night.

1539
01:21:35,960 --> 01:21:39,080
Speaker 1: Confidence that until and if Joe Burrow gets back this

1540
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:44,960
Speaker 1: season was Thursday night. Some sort of leveling the playing field?

1541
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: Was it an anomaly? What does it all fit in

1542
01:21:48,360 --> 01:21:52,160
Speaker 1: the grand scheme of the seventeen game NFL schedule in

1543
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:57,439
Speaker 1: the AFC, which looks eminently winnable for probably seven or

1544
01:21:57,439 --> 01:22:01,200
Speaker 1: eight teams right now. Certainly the angles are one of them.

1545
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:06,160
Speaker 1: If Thursday night was the real deal, Let's check in

1546
01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,400
Speaker 1: with one of the finest sports writers God ever put

1547
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,080
Speaker 1: on this earth, somebody who knows the NFL inside out,

1548
01:22:11,200 --> 01:22:14,000
Speaker 1: someone who can write about the intricacies of that game,

1549
01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:18,360
Speaker 1: make you understand it with out your eyeballs rolling back

1550
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:23,280
Speaker 1: into your head. He is the wildly talented NFL writer

1551
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: from cbssports dot Com. Our good buddy, Brian Diardo. How

1552
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: are you on this glorious Sunday.

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01:22:31,000 --> 01:22:33,679
Speaker 12: Glorious and rainy Sunday, Ken, But I'm doing well. Hope

1554
01:22:33,720 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 12: you guys are staying dry down there in Cincinnati.

1555
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:38,960
Speaker 1: No, it's I was just on I seventy one, coming

1556
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:40,800
Speaker 1: in this morning. I saw a guy with a big

1557
01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 1: boat looking for two of everything. It's raining down here too.

1558
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: It's raining down here too. All right, So you watch

1559
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: the game on Thursday night. I think you and I

1560
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:52,280
Speaker 1: were both I'm guessing on your part not expecting sixty

1561
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: four total points, eight hundred and sixty six total yards.

1562
01:22:55,840 --> 01:22:58,719
Speaker 1: But I think what we saw from Joe Flacco from

1563
01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 1: the Cincinnati standpoint a guy that just, you know what,

1564
01:23:02,080 --> 01:23:04,640
Speaker 1: he knows how the game is played. Just get the

1565
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,200
Speaker 1: ball to the playmakers and let them do their thing.

1566
01:23:07,360 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: And my goodness, if he can do that on a

1567
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:14,559
Speaker 1: consistent basis, this season, which look lost two or three

1568
01:23:14,600 --> 01:23:18,439
Speaker 1: weeks ago, looks something like that. It can be turned

1569
01:23:18,479 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: around and turned around quickly. What were your impressions of

1570
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 1: Flacco as.

1571
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 12: Somebody that's seen a million Joe Flacco versus Steeler games.

1572
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:29,439
Speaker 12: That game brought me back to a nineteen ninety movie

1573
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 12: with the other Malushi called groundhog Day. Not a bad

1574
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:35,360
Speaker 12: film on a rainy Sunday if your team's not playing,

1575
01:23:35,360 --> 01:23:38,800
Speaker 12: I may recommend, but I it was he gets into

1576
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:41,040
Speaker 12: groove like that, He gets in a rhythm that he

1577
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:44,400
Speaker 12: could just play. Tomlins defense is like a fiddle, and I,

1578
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:45,840
Speaker 12: you know, you set it up for me great?

1579
01:23:45,880 --> 01:23:46,040
Speaker 4: You know?

1580
01:23:46,320 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 12: Was that an anomaly or is that we can Was

1581
01:23:49,240 --> 01:23:51,840
Speaker 12: that kind of a writing, a writing of the ship

1582
01:23:51,880 --> 01:23:54,840
Speaker 12: for this team? I think ken with this does is

1583
01:23:54,840 --> 01:23:57,240
Speaker 12: it puts them back in the trajectory to kind of

1584
01:23:57,280 --> 01:23:59,519
Speaker 12: be where they've been the last couple of years nine

1585
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 12: and eight, ten and seven on the periphery of the

1586
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 12: playoffs possibly making it. But this team, as you alluded to, Ken,

1587
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:08,000
Speaker 12: this is it's a wide open AFC field. I mean,

1588
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 12: let's just say this. Let's say they get that seventh seed.

1589
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:13,599
Speaker 12: There's a good chance they would likely play the Colts,

1590
01:24:13,680 --> 01:24:16,240
Speaker 12: who I think we could all agree or beatable were

1591
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 12: the Steelers who they just beat. So this is indeed

1592
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:21,600
Speaker 12: one of those years where if they were able to

1593
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,360
Speaker 12: make it with with nine or ten wins, I think

1594
01:24:24,439 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 12: they're certainly capable of doing something, especially if Joe Burrow's

1595
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,599
Speaker 12: back for the last three games. Four of their next

1596
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:33,320
Speaker 12: six opponents have winning records, which that's obviously not great.

1597
01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:35,240
Speaker 12: A rematch with Pittsburgh one of them, a game against

1598
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:36,519
Speaker 12: the Bills, who are always really good.

1599
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Speaker 4: One of them.

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Speaker 12: Last four opponents, though all have losing records. Joe Burrow

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01:24:41,080 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 12: should be back for those last three if they're still

1602
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 12: in contention. As you also said, last night or Thursday night,

1603
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:48,400
Speaker 12: wasn't expecting that kind of game as far as all

1604
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,919
Speaker 12: the points being scored. But as they said, Joe Flacco

1605
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:54,960
Speaker 12: is great at taking away into opposition's strengths and feasting

1606
01:24:55,000 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 12: on the weaknesses. His quick releases basically made the Steelers

1607
01:24:58,240 --> 01:25:01,559
Speaker 12: pass rush, which is their stre a non issue. And

1608
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:04,439
Speaker 12: he really went after a steer secondary that had some injuries.

1609
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:06,559
Speaker 12: And that's where I somewhat pause to say, okay, now

1610
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:09,160
Speaker 12: we're off and running. He took advantage of Stewart secondary

1611
01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,519
Speaker 12: that's been banged up. Darius Slay apparently, I think his

1612
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:17,639
Speaker 12: career is basically over, and Jalen Ramsey's had some hamstring problems,

1613
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 12: so you know, so take it with a grain of salt.

1614
01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 12: But if you're a Bengal fan, though, you celebrate anyone

1615
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:22,800
Speaker 12: you can get right now.

1616
01:25:22,920 --> 01:25:25,640
Speaker 1: No, I think the only red flag for the Bengals

1617
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 1: is the running game. They I mean defending the running game,

1618
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 1: not the ability to run the ball. They gave up

1619
01:25:32,840 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: one hundred and forty seven yards on the ground of

1620
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:38,479
Speaker 1: the Steelers, And I said earlier in this show, with

1621
01:25:38,560 --> 01:25:41,120
Speaker 1: a lot of these games look very winnable. The Jets

1622
01:25:41,160 --> 01:25:45,080
Speaker 1: are terrible, There's no question about that. The Bears are better,

1623
01:25:45,160 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: but I wouldn't call them great, but teams that you're

1624
01:25:49,240 --> 01:25:53,040
Speaker 1: supposed to be if you let them hang around the

1625
01:25:53,160 --> 01:25:55,760
Speaker 1: running game from those teams will get you. It's not

1626
01:25:55,840 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: necessarily their ability to pull off huge plays and burn you,

1627
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,960
Speaker 1: but it's the ground game that will churn you up

1628
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,639
Speaker 1: if you don't learn how to cap down on the run.

1629
01:26:04,680 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: I don't know where they go for that kind of

1630
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 1: help at this time of the year, because you kind

1631
01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:12,120
Speaker 1: of are what you are defensively. But other than that,

1632
01:26:12,280 --> 01:26:14,680
Speaker 1: I thought I thought it was a terrific game. I

1633
01:26:14,800 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 1: like the fact that you have DJ Turner and you

1634
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:20,439
Speaker 1: have Dax Hill back there now. I think Cam Taylor

1635
01:26:20,479 --> 01:26:24,280
Speaker 1: Britt needs to be where he is right now, inactive

1636
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: on Thursday night and sitting on the bench probably going

1637
01:26:27,439 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: forward until he learns how to give it every single

1638
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:33,439
Speaker 1: play in practice in a game. So I kind of

1639
01:26:33,479 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: like what they're doing. They're not accepting any nonsense from

1640
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:39,160
Speaker 1: any players here. You know, the adult seems to be

1641
01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:42,160
Speaker 1: back in charge there, and he doesn't seem to be

1642
01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: he being al Golden, doesn't seem to be beholden to

1643
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 1: anybody that was here before he got here. So I

1644
01:26:48,200 --> 01:26:51,639
Speaker 1: like that too. But that running, defending, the running attack,

1645
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:54,920
Speaker 1: I think is a major major point of emphasis and

1646
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:58,760
Speaker 1: focus as to what this team can do in terms

1647
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:02,439
Speaker 1: of wins. And losses going forward. Almost every team has

1648
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 1: had their way on this Bengals defense running the football.

1649
01:27:06,200 --> 01:27:09,800
Speaker 1: That's a red flag, is it not? It is for sure.

1650
01:27:10,439 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 12: I like what you said about gold and I agree.

1651
01:27:12,439 --> 01:27:12,720
Speaker 1: One thing.

1652
01:27:12,760 --> 01:27:14,879
Speaker 12: I didn't know Ken until I was doing some research

1653
01:27:15,200 --> 01:27:19,760
Speaker 12: before last week's game. He's from the I'll Grow coaching tree,

1654
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:23,519
Speaker 12: who's from Bill Parcells coaching tree. So he so, in essence,

1655
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:26,280
Speaker 12: Golden is part of that lineage of Bill Parcells, who

1656
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 12: is maybe the most no nonsense coach in league history.

1657
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 12: So shouldn't be as surprise to anybody that kind of

1658
01:27:32,439 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 12: knows Golden's background.

1659
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:34,880
Speaker 4: But you know, I am with you.

1660
01:27:34,920 --> 01:27:37,599
Speaker 12: That's but I will say, as we both know, and

1661
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 12: as two people that have you know, know football and

1662
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,800
Speaker 12: have watched it for a long time, the running game

1663
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 12: is now not.

1664
01:27:43,439 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: What it was.

1665
01:27:44,080 --> 01:27:46,400
Speaker 12: And you saw it on Thursday night. The Steelers actually

1666
01:27:46,800 --> 01:27:49,479
Speaker 12: under I think they underappreciated what they had with the

1667
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:49,960
Speaker 12: running game.

1668
01:27:49,960 --> 01:27:51,479
Speaker 1: They didn't really use it very much.

1669
01:27:52,200 --> 01:27:54,280
Speaker 12: This is still this is a passing league, and so

1670
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,080
Speaker 12: I think it's going to take a lot of discipline

1671
01:27:57,160 --> 01:27:59,160
Speaker 12: for a team to just say, even though they know

1672
01:27:59,479 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 12: that that's a weakness of the Bengals defense. We're gonna

1673
01:28:01,640 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 12: line up and run it forty times that you see

1674
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:05,240
Speaker 12: if you can beat it, that's just not how the

1675
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:07,400
Speaker 12: game's play anymore. But again I agree with you, it

1676
01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,200
Speaker 12: still is an issue they have to fix. But this

1677
01:28:09,280 --> 01:28:12,519
Speaker 12: has been a recurring issue for them for a long time. However,

1678
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 12: it seems like their ability to combat that issue has

1679
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:19,440
Speaker 12: always been their red zone defense, their ability to get turnovers.

1680
01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:22,280
Speaker 12: As case the point Thursday night, with the two interceptions

1681
01:28:22,280 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 12: of Rogers, I believe at least one of those, they're

1682
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:27,400
Speaker 12: able to parlay that interception into points. So it kind

1683
01:28:27,400 --> 01:28:29,840
Speaker 12: of requires an offense to be disciplined running the ball.

1684
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 12: But again, I would rather be bad at run defense

1685
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:35,720
Speaker 12: than pass defense, because again, this is a passing the league. Now,

1686
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:38,200
Speaker 12: how can they fix this? I got a guy in

1687
01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:41,920
Speaker 12: Miami you might want to get. Maybe mister Tobin needs

1688
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:45,040
Speaker 12: to call mister Greer. Get Jordan Brooks in there, who's

1689
01:28:45,080 --> 01:28:48,200
Speaker 12: been traveling around the league the last year plus, leaves

1690
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 12: the league right now in tackles, and the Dolphins are

1691
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,240
Speaker 12: let's be honest, they're sellers right now. They're gonna be

1692
01:28:53,280 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 12: sellers in the deadline. That's a guy you can get him.

1693
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,320
Speaker 12: And that's not indictment against Knight. I think Knight's a

1694
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 12: nice player. He's just a young guy, right. And Logan Wilson,

1695
01:29:01,280 --> 01:29:02,800
Speaker 12: we know, has had his struggles. He's been kind of

1696
01:29:02,920 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 12: in and out of the lineup. So you could get

1697
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 12: somebody before the trade deadline that can stabilize the middle

1698
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 12: of that defense.

1699
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 4: That would be my perordy.

1700
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,559
Speaker 12: If I was Duke Tobin here between now November second.

1701
01:29:11,920 --> 01:29:15,280
Speaker 1: Night plays fast, but he doesn't always play under control.

1702
01:29:15,320 --> 01:29:17,559
Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of it could be a rookie,

1703
01:29:17,640 --> 01:29:20,559
Speaker 1: but still, and oh he's an older rookie. Yeah, those

1704
01:29:20,600 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 1: two interceptions led to ten points. It was it was

1705
01:29:23,960 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 1: certainly the difference in the ballgame. You know, you know,

1706
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: going back to Flacco for a second, I was watching,

1707
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,720
Speaker 1: you know, I like watching body language, who's talking to

1708
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:36,840
Speaker 1: who on the sidelines and whatnot. I think Joe Burrow

1709
01:29:36,880 --> 01:29:39,080
Speaker 1: might have learned a few things on Thursday night, not

1710
01:29:39,120 --> 01:29:41,559
Speaker 1: necessarily that he had to be a great quarterback. He's

1711
01:29:41,560 --> 01:29:44,200
Speaker 1: a great quarterback. This is his team. When he's healthy,

1712
01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:47,679
Speaker 1: he's going to be the quarterback. But what he's never

1713
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:52,360
Speaker 1: had is a veteran quarterback that could sit there and

1714
01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:55,000
Speaker 1: work with him. He got Brandon Allen earlier in his

1715
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: career and has has had Jake Browning lately, but he

1716
01:29:58,320 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: never had that veteran quarterback. You know, the coach is

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Speaker 1: kind of like the dad, but you know, the older brother,

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01:30:04,400 --> 01:30:07,360
Speaker 1: like in any family, is going to be kind of like,

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01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,320
Speaker 1: you know, the guy that shepherd's the younger guy along.

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01:30:10,360 --> 01:30:13,639
Speaker 1: He's never had that. And I hope there's somehow, some way.

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01:30:13,800 --> 01:30:15,360
Speaker 1: And again I don't want to get too far over

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01:30:15,400 --> 01:30:18,040
Speaker 1: my skis here. It was one game. I understand that,

1723
01:30:18,760 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 1: but I hope there's somehow, some way that the Bengals

1724
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:25,240
Speaker 1: figure out. Look, Flacco's found money. If indeed he wants

1725
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Speaker 1: to come back at the ripe age of forty one,

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01:30:27,800 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 1: being a sort of player coach, maybe they draft another

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01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: quarterback that is a younger guy that's got a lot

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01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:38,800
Speaker 1: of talent that maybe could be, you know, really the

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Speaker 1: number two guy. But you got Flacco there, the kind

1730
01:30:42,560 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: of shepherds that that room around a little bit. You

1731
01:30:45,240 --> 01:30:48,440
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. It's almost like a family dynamic

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01:30:48,479 --> 01:30:50,760
Speaker 1: that could develop there. I hope there's a way that

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01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:53,000
Speaker 1: they could figure out to do that. If indeed Flacco

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Speaker 1: was interested past this season. What do you think.

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Speaker 12: The bankers are listening? May I hire you for the

1736
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:00,600
Speaker 12: front office. This might be our last interview because you

1737
01:31:00,640 --> 01:31:02,960
Speaker 12: may have another job in a week. And I love it.

1738
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:06,280
Speaker 12: I love it. And I always make this comparison with

1739
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:09,559
Speaker 12: Joe Flacco. I'm gonna you know, not that you need

1740
01:31:09,640 --> 01:31:12,760
Speaker 12: quiz because you know it all. Cole twitterback that lost

1741
01:31:12,760 --> 01:31:14,920
Speaker 12: Super Bowl three, that ended up winning a Super Bowl

1742
01:31:14,920 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 12: with Miami, playing with Bob Greasy Earl Moral, remember him,

1743
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 12: he Flacko to me seems like an Earl Moral, like

1744
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,759
Speaker 12: just the guy that plays forever he starts, he doesn't start.

1745
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,559
Speaker 12: He wins big games, He's lost some big games, but

1746
01:31:28,680 --> 01:31:31,360
Speaker 12: just is always there. He's just always there, right and

1747
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 12: and and I I think you absolutely nailed it. And

1748
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,360
Speaker 12: when I think about many many great quarterbacks over the years,

1749
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,080
Speaker 12: how many had an older guy that they could learn.

1750
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:44,880
Speaker 12: Big Ben had had, uh you know, uh the Tommy

1751
01:31:44,920 --> 01:31:48,400
Speaker 12: Maddox and and Charlie Batch who weren't stars but veterans

1752
01:31:48,439 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 12: that that knew the craft. Obviously, Joe Steve Young had

1753
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:54,080
Speaker 12: the best one ever in Joe Montana. But even even

1754
01:31:54,160 --> 01:31:56,160
Speaker 12: uh you know, John Elway at times had like Steve

1755
01:31:56,240 --> 01:31:58,920
Speaker 12: de Berg and guys like that. So no, I think

1756
01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,439
Speaker 12: that's I think that's an im peccable point. And we

1757
01:32:01,479 --> 01:32:04,120
Speaker 12: all know I mean Joe, and He's said this several

1758
01:32:04,200 --> 01:32:06,040
Speaker 12: times even this year. I don't like being a backup,

1759
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 12: let's be honest, but at this age you kind of

1760
01:32:08,240 --> 01:32:10,080
Speaker 12: have to take what you can get to stay in

1761
01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:13,280
Speaker 12: this league. So he's gonna embrace whatever role that he has.

1762
01:32:13,320 --> 01:32:15,040
Speaker 12: And I thought that was one of the issues, or

1763
01:32:15,080 --> 01:32:17,160
Speaker 12: one of the things that Browns lost when they traded him,

1764
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 12: was that was the kind of the adult in the room,

1765
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:19,920
Speaker 12: so to speak.

1766
01:32:19,920 --> 01:32:20,839
Speaker 1: But no, I agree.

1767
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:25,400
Speaker 12: I love Joe Flacco's temperament. And adversely, I actually am

1768
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:26,760
Speaker 12: not a fan of some of the things I saw

1769
01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 12: from Aaron Rodgers on Thursday now, getting mad that a

1770
01:32:29,160 --> 01:32:31,840
Speaker 12: tackle tackles you have to a touchdown. I get it.

1771
01:32:32,240 --> 01:32:35,639
Speaker 12: I'm not gonna I'm with him. I'm now over forty,

1772
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 12: I got it. I don't want to fall down either,

1773
01:32:37,760 --> 01:32:40,240
Speaker 12: yelling at Jalen Warren and calling him out after the

1774
01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,640
Speaker 12: game for potentially not knowing the flea fook or a

1775
01:32:42,640 --> 01:32:44,840
Speaker 12: gain that wrong. I'm not a fan of that personally.

1776
01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,679
Speaker 12: You do that maybe behind closed doors, but again, Yeah,

1777
01:32:47,760 --> 01:32:50,439
Speaker 12: I think Flacco's temperament is amazing. He is a team

1778
01:32:50,439 --> 01:32:53,720
Speaker 12: player and listen, he knows his legacy is what it is,

1779
01:32:53,800 --> 01:32:55,960
Speaker 12: and I think him and Joe can learn a lot.

1780
01:32:55,960 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 12: And again that poise when they fell behind late in

1781
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 12: that game, the Steelers made that comeback. There was no

1782
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 12: shaking in Flaco. He was unflappable. Then. He's always kind

1783
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,960
Speaker 12: of had that moxy about him, which is one of

1784
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:07,720
Speaker 12: the reasons why he's had the success that he's had.

1785
01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:09,800
Speaker 1: One of the best side stories in all of this.

1786
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:15,200
Speaker 1: As we visit here with briandardocdssports dot com, they're mad

1787
01:33:15,240 --> 01:33:18,040
Speaker 1: in Cleveland. I'm watching some of these shows out of Cleveland.

1788
01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: Listen to some of these shows. They've had what forty

1789
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,000
Speaker 1: one starting quarterbacks since they came into the leg in

1790
01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and now they're left with Dylan Dabriel

1791
01:33:27,240 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: and Shador Sanders, and you know, good luck with that.

1792
01:33:30,240 --> 01:33:34,960
Speaker 1: And of course Deshaun Watson, who has basically nuked that

1793
01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:38,799
Speaker 1: franchise from a salary cap standpoint, is still lurking around

1794
01:33:38,800 --> 01:33:43,000
Speaker 1: out there. It just it's infuriating the Cleveland fan base,

1795
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,519
Speaker 1: and I think that's hilarious. I'm sorry. I shouldn't feel

1796
01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,280
Speaker 1: that way, but I do think it's hilarious. You know,

1797
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:48,080
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying.

1798
01:33:49,320 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 12: Well, I mean Vitbergers aren't happy either. I mean again,

1799
01:33:53,360 --> 01:33:54,960
Speaker 12: the minute that this trade went down, I think a

1800
01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,040
Speaker 12: lot of his Dewer fans went well, Okay, I mean

1801
01:33:57,040 --> 01:33:58,760
Speaker 12: that's the thing. I mean, you could kind of see

1802
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,760
Speaker 12: it coming. I just yeah, on that point, a what

1803
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,840
Speaker 12: are the Browns doing? Because I do think Stefansy's a

1804
01:34:04,880 --> 01:34:07,880
Speaker 12: good coach, I really do. I think he can serve

1805
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:11,400
Speaker 12: and I think the biggest darance between him Ken and Taylor,

1806
01:34:11,920 --> 01:34:14,080
Speaker 12: I think Taylor does a better job keeping a locker

1807
01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:17,120
Speaker 12: room engaged. I think that like last year, for example,

1808
01:34:17,120 --> 01:34:19,680
Speaker 12: he could have lost that room once once they were

1809
01:34:19,720 --> 01:34:21,519
Speaker 12: four and eight two years ago, he could have lost

1810
01:34:21,520 --> 01:34:23,040
Speaker 12: that room. And I think that's one of tom Win's

1811
01:34:23,080 --> 01:34:25,439
Speaker 12: greatest strengths is his ability to keep a team in

1812
01:34:25,479 --> 01:34:27,719
Speaker 12: it right. I mean, Taylor hasn't had a losing season

1813
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,080
Speaker 12: since his first year. Now he has Joe Burrow, so

1814
01:34:30,120 --> 01:34:31,480
Speaker 12: we got to add that caveat.

1815
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:33,160
Speaker 4: But I don't know what Cleveland's doing.

1816
01:34:33,160 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 12: But I will say I think one of the things

1817
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,000
Speaker 12: that made Tom want upset, along with the fact that

1818
01:34:37,040 --> 01:34:39,400
Speaker 12: he had to face Flaco, who has had his number

1819
01:34:39,400 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 12: in Steelers number a lot. Is the competition value of it?

1820
01:34:43,240 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 12: Tom was on the competition committee. It makes you want

1821
01:34:45,520 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 12: to now. Also, let's take this a step further. One

1822
01:34:48,240 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 12: of the Bengals need decides, you know, linebackers, some help

1823
01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:53,799
Speaker 12: on defense, back up, running back. They could use. Cleveland's

1824
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,360
Speaker 12: got Jerome Ford. You know what, who's now not starting?

1825
01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,520
Speaker 1: So if Clayland's willing.

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01:34:58,240 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 12: To trade them Joe blacko, what you call to get

1827
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:01,559
Speaker 12: more help?

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01:35:01,600 --> 01:35:01,800
Speaker 4: Oh?

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01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:06,320
Speaker 12: Hey, okay, suck, he's on our Let's see if Djoko's

1830
01:35:06,320 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 12: ready to drive down and have his wife drive and do.

1831
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:09,479
Speaker 4: The whole deal.

1832
01:35:09,720 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 12: Let's just keep this train rolling, right, Why not trans

1833
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,000
Speaker 12: Brown Black and let's let's keep going.

1834
01:35:14,439 --> 01:35:18,599
Speaker 1: You go. Brian Diardo cbssports dot Com. Always great, catch

1835
01:35:18,600 --> 01:35:20,640
Speaker 1: it up. Heyk my friends stay well and you know

1836
01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,320
Speaker 1: we'll be calling again. Thanks.

1837
01:35:22,760 --> 01:35:24,240
Speaker 12: That sounds great, Ken you two.

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01:35:24,240 --> 01:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, open up I seventy one. Bring them all

1839
01:35:28,240 --> 01:35:32,120
Speaker 1: down here. My god, they are apoplectic up in Cleveland

1840
01:35:32,120 --> 01:35:35,880
Speaker 1: over this. Twelve twenty two News Radio seven hundred w

1841
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:40,599
Speaker 1: l W highlighting you see over Oklahoma State last night,

1842
01:35:40,720 --> 01:35:44,479
Speaker 1: forty nine seventeen. Here now Scott Saderfield and the UC

1843
01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: locker room. After the game, we're going bowling this year, baby.

1844
01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:52,679
Speaker 12: Red West.

1845
01:35:53,040 --> 01:35:55,679
Speaker 4: Hey, but we want to go to one in good balls.

1846
01:35:55,680 --> 01:35:57,920
Speaker 1: So we got to keep winning right at stay going?

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01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,640
Speaker 18: Hey, Hey, but but I just want to correc congratulations,

1848
01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:01,920
Speaker 18: come on the road in the Big twelve. It is

1849
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 18: hard to freaking win, all right. It ain't never easy.

1850
01:36:04,240 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 18: You gotta play your tails off. You gotta have the

1851
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,479
Speaker 18: right preparation what you guys do, and you did this

1852
01:36:08,520 --> 01:36:10,280
Speaker 18: past week and it paid off out here tonight.

1853
01:36:10,600 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 4: All right.

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01:36:11,040 --> 01:36:13,680
Speaker 18: Incredible job, man, all the way through to the end,

1855
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:14,920
Speaker 18: all right, right through that fourth quarter.

1856
01:36:15,000 --> 01:36:17,200
Speaker 1: Great job in the fourth quarter. All right, we did

1857
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: something tonight.

1858
01:36:18,840 --> 01:36:18,960
Speaker 4: Man.

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01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:21,559
Speaker 2: I've been waiting a long time, guys, been waiting a

1860
01:36:21,560 --> 01:36:24,280
Speaker 2: long time. Now it was I think this is the

1861
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,920
Speaker 2: thirty first game since I've been here we have not

1862
01:36:27,120 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 2: scored on defense.

1863
01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:29,479
Speaker 1: Or special teams.

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Speaker 18: And this also happened to be the longest intercept return.

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Speaker 1: In school history. Here you go, Matthew McDoom one hundred

1866
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Speaker 1: yard interception return for a touchdown. You see now six

1867
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Speaker 1: and one, three and ohero in the Big twelve. Keep

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Speaker 1: it up stand by, our NFL double hitter begins in

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01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 1: just a matter of minutes. Football all afternoon, right here

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Speaker 1: on the home of yours, Cincinnati Bengals News Radio, seven

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