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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the show down Memory Lane. We go.

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Speaker 2: Home shopping coming.

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Speaker 3: I'm drinking till I forget the nineteen ninety nine NFC Championship.

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Speaker 2: You've got a big pay with me.

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Speaker 1: It's PA ninety nine.

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Speaker 2: I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: Florio. You can write what you want. It's okay, Oh please,

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Speaker 1: oh my win, today's coming.

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Speaker 3: Thank you Minneapolis, and thank you everybody outside of Minneapolis

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Speaker 3: for listening via the free iHeart Audio app.

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Speaker 1: Good morning.

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Speaker 3: This is nine to now and for usual on a Wednesday,

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Speaker 3: our first guest is one of our dear friends.

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Speaker 1: His name is Parker Fox.

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Speaker 2: Through contact and foul to learn, a trip to the stripe.

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Speaker 4: Love that set right away there from Medved clearly seeing

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Speaker 4: the height, the size advantage, going right inside to Jalen

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Speaker 4: Crocker Johnson, He's gonna get himself too at.

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Speaker 1: The follower mmmmm.

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Speaker 3: Always love when those sir against take steps.

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Speaker 2: Loose ball us three times now, who's.

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Speaker 4: On Who's on the floor again? Shaun z Willis tried

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Speaker 4: to make plays for his team. I absolutely love the effort.

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Speaker 2: First sub here from Minnesota. Langston Reynolds into the game,

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Speaker 2: replacing Tyson, who gets a nice ovation from this Minnesota crowd.

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Speaker 2: He's made himself a fan favor here.

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Speaker 1: Early.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Gopher fans are gonna love Kate Tyson. Obviously a

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Speaker 4: score as you see here his one thousandth point. We

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Speaker 4: were on one thousand watchs. So congrats to Kay Tyson.

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Speaker 4: One thousand career collegiate points.

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Speaker 3: Thirty for that, Cad Tyson. Love was in the air.

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Speaker 3: And this is not a radio show. It's a love covenant.

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Speaker 3: Always great to see and hear Parker Fox. I love

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Speaker 3: the aggression here. Lanson Reynolds get caught up on that

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Speaker 3: ball screen takes it to the rim. I don't know

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Speaker 3: about the file there. It looks like he was pretty vertical.

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Speaker 1: I think Jalen Crocker Johnson agrees with me.

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Speaker 4: But nonetheless, it's two points going to the free throw line.

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Speaker 4: A guy in Ace Telbert, he was one for five

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Speaker 4: from the floor before that, now two for six, searching

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Speaker 4: for his game. Talking to head coach Jeremy Luthor before

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Speaker 4: the game, he said that that's a guy that they

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Speaker 4: need to have his offensive game going if they want

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Speaker 4: to compete in games like this.

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Speaker 3: That was from a Big ten plus on Monday, and

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Speaker 3: former Golden Gophers basketball player Parker Fox at Parker Fox two.

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Speaker 1: Four via x joins nine to noon.

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Speaker 3: Now, Here's how much the Love Covenant loves Parker Fox,

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Speaker 3: who had a love theme with those three drops we

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Speaker 3: have secured. Here's how much we love you two secure

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Speaker 3: said highlights. Mad producer paid fourteen dollars to get into

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Speaker 5: No, yes, yes, yes yes that is too kind And

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Speaker 5: it was worth every second of it.

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Speaker 2: And I was, I was.

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Speaker 1: I started pulling the highlights this morning.

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Speaker 5: I listened to some of it last night, and then

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Speaker 5: I just was jumping around and I realized that there

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Speaker 5: was a love theme that as you were sitting there

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Speaker 5: on the hardwood watching your alma mater Face Gardner Webb

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Speaker 5: and the Running Bulldogs or whatever they're called. Every time

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Speaker 5: I would jump in like okay, is Parker going to talk? Here?

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Speaker 1: Is Parker going to talk here?

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Speaker 5: It was you love it on somebody like it was

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Speaker 5: and so love was in the air. It felt like

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Speaker 5: during your first time doing the analyst work there, which

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Speaker 5: was terrific. You did an awesome job. But love certainly

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Speaker 5: was the theme of the highlights I found this morning.

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Speaker 5: It was worth every bit of that fourteen dollars charge

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Speaker 5: that my wife's going to argue with me about later today.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it went well for you.

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Speaker 4: It did, and I think you're right, nord It was

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Speaker 4: and listening to it my whole career. I've always been

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Speaker 4: And I think especially on a BTN Plus, where if

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Speaker 3: I got to log in if you need it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: It cost me fourteen dollars, but I got the highlights.

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Speaker 1: It was the best that Big ten Networks selling an

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Speaker 3: Did Did you wear a suit a size too big?

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Speaker 3: Kind of like I don't know, the first day of school?

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Speaker 4: I always love that one. Well, I think my suit

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Speaker 4: fit me. It was from my second year at the U.

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Speaker 4: Obviously I've lost a little bit of weight since then,

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Speaker 5: It looks sharp on TV. I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Did your parents watch? Yeah they did. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They were debating if they wanted to.

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Speaker 4: Come, and I was like, well you should just watch

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Speaker 3: So how about Will and the bow tie by the way,

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Speaker 3: the call, Yeah he did. He was a student, right,

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Speaker 4: He's a he's a Hermantown kid, and uh, you know

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Speaker 4: just one of those things where he was doing a thing,

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Speaker 3: exactly what business Kate Tyson at thirty Kate Tyson tell

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's he's a stud I think obviously you're going

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Speaker 4: stronger wing defenders in the Big Ten guarding him. You're

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Speaker 4: gonna have better scouts and game plans, but he's the

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Speaker 4: focal point of their offense right now. Talking to head

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Speaker 4: coach Nico Medved, they love where he's at. Offensive. He's

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Speaker 4: a three level scorer. He's shooting the ball really well

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Speaker 4: He can hang in the air, he can finish, he

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Speaker 4: something we haven't seen yet, but I've seen it in practice.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't get too high too low, and that's something

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Speaker 3: Jalen Crocker Johnson with a double double. Yeah, he was

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Speaker 4: They went right inside to him early. He's got a

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Speaker 3: When it comes to totally a turnaround that A is

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Speaker 3: talking winning recruiting battles within this state. Yeah, like what

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think as we know, as Minnesota fans and

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Speaker 4: guys that have been successful at their last spots, their competitors.

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Speaker 1: They're guys that want to win.

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Speaker 4: But I think there's also a sense of pride and

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Speaker 4: So there's so many guys that are kind of too

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Speaker 4: I'm gonna get drafted. They don't want those guys in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: A dumb question.

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Speaker 5: While I was watching You and Will last night, I

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Speaker 5: think you said something like maybe one or two players

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just one? What was that surprising at all?

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Speaker 5: As Nico came to Minnesota. Was that was that a surprise?

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Speaker 1: Not really. I think there was a big senior presence.

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Speaker 3: going to be able to control yourself. I'm gonna I'm

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Speaker 3: covering the Minnesota Wild writing about hockey ten o'clock nine

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Speaker 3: to noon today. You happen to know where Michael Russo

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Speaker 1: Do I? Yeah, can tell you.

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Speaker 3: He's in Cleveland for Taylor's practice. Is fantastic. He's in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where I should be.

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Speaker 4: He's found other interests. The NHL network. That's fun, that's exciting. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: She's fired up. Fun and then they go to Buffalo

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Speaker 3: It's correct. And I think Russo Radio. Russo Radio is

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Speaker 3: the USA roster something like that sounds right, And and

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Speaker 3: I'm going to guess Wisconsin Badgers women's hockey is either

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Speaker 4: Five, five Avin McNatt and the goalie for USA for USA.

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Speaker 4: Wisconsin Badger women player KK Harvey's the best defender in

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Speaker 4: And you look at that team and you talk Chet Holmgren.

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Speaker 1: What was going on last week?

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Speaker 3: If you had Duke Texas at the NBA, you had

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Speaker 3: After stam Cos with a bomb ties the sucker with

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Speaker 3: bench to Vusevich, who won it, all right, and then

435
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Speaker 3: all the baby bulls go crazy. So let me ask

436
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Speaker 3: you this, who would you rather have and why? Josh

437
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Speaker 3: Giddy or Jalen Brunson.

438
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Speaker 4: I mean, it's Jalen, but Josh had twenty nined fifty

439
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Speaker 4: to twelve last night was just elite.

440
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Speaker 1: But you have to go with Jalen Brunson.

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Speaker 4: He's he's done it in the clutch minutes, He's he's

442
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Speaker 4: done it in the playoffs. He truly does look like

443
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,600
Speaker 4: a top five point guard in the NBA. Right that

444
00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,520
Speaker 4: giddy passing and rebounding is getting to you, though, isn't it?

445
00:20:58,560 --> 00:21:02,200
Speaker 4: That's getting to me because because Jalen doesn't give you that, right,

446
00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:04,600
Speaker 4: So I think it's it's it's obviously different from from

447
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Speaker 4: what team you need, from what you need from the team,

448
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Speaker 4: But I think all in all, you got to.

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Speaker 1: Go, all right, what about this? Who would you rather have?

450
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Speaker 1: And why?

451
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Speaker 3: Shake Gildes Alexander Yeah? Or Cooper Flag and the conk nipple?

452
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Speaker 1: Oh give me Cooper and Cohn over? Yeah?

453
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Speaker 4: Really yeah, I do. I'm such a Cooper I'm such

454
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Speaker 4: a Cooper Flag guy. It's it's ridiculous and he better

455
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Speaker 4: get going one of these days. I mean, he's okay,

456
00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,280
Speaker 4: he's well, he's playing out a position right now. He's

457
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Speaker 4: having to play a little bit more point guard. They

458
00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:41,120
Speaker 4: need to continue to just play D'Angelo Russell and let

459
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Speaker 4: Cooper play his natural position. People are claiming to him

460
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Speaker 4: just when Delos bad.

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Speaker 1: Seen enough of that, have you? Yes?

462
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Speaker 4: But no, I think Cooper Flag people are calling him

463
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Speaker 4: running dunk a little bit. I don't think that's true

464
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Speaker 4: at all. He just hasn't found his shooting stroke. He'll

465
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Speaker 4: be fine. kN K Nipple Elite had twenty and twelve.

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Speaker 1: Last night and Brandon Miller down. Yeah. Ca Nipple is

467
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Speaker 1: spreading his wings and soaring. Oh, definitely great. And there's

468
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Speaker 1: no hate on Shay right Like Shay.

469
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Speaker 4: Is has found a way and I've talked about it

470
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Speaker 4: on this radio show. He's found a way to play

471
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Speaker 4: the game at a jokic level where you simply are

472
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Speaker 4: understanding the game better than anybody else in the arena.

473
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Speaker 4: Like he's completely slowed it down. It's like he's playing

474
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Speaker 4: in slow motion. He's the best of the best. He

475
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Speaker 4: can win MVP again this year, so it's hard to

476
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Speaker 4: say no to him.

477
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Speaker 1: But I love Duke.

478
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Speaker 4: I love those two boys, and I think it would

479
00:22:30,920 --> 00:22:32,399
Speaker 4: be fun to see them back together again.

480
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Speaker 3: Anthony Edwards or Luka doncic Man, that's such a tough one.

481
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Speaker 1: It's Edwards because of the defense.

482
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Speaker 4: It's yeah, it is, but luca Is is generational.

483
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Speaker 1: There's there's nobody like him.

484
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Speaker 4: There was Anthony agree and and that's I still it's

485
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Speaker 4: still just absolutely blows my mind that Dallas did what

486
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Speaker 4: they did and traded him because he's he's a one

487
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Speaker 4: in a generation, He's one one in a life time

488
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Speaker 4: type of talent.

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Speaker 1: But but you're right, so is Anthony Edwards.

490
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Speaker 4: And where wolves guys were, Howell raised and I would

491
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Speaker 4: go with Anthony Edwards six out of the seven days

492
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Speaker 4: of the week.

493
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Speaker 3: So you're saying Cooper Flag is running the point a

494
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Speaker 3: fair amount for Dallas because it's Russell comes off the

495
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Speaker 3: bench and he may play twenty five minutes, he might

496
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Speaker 3: play nine. And Clay Thompson the times I've watched has

497
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Speaker 3: has run some point in an awkward fashion, and because

498
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Speaker 3: of that, his numbers are down, like it's three point

499
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 3: shooting is down and stuff like that.

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Speaker 1: Lively's hurt, Gafford just came back.

501
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Speaker 3: It just seems that, you know, And the reason I'm

502
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Speaker 3: making this Dallas fan line is I think if and

503
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Speaker 3: or whin Kyrie Irving comes back and they keep him

504
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Speaker 3: a one piece, yeah, that team could be a handful

505
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Speaker 3: in the postseason, but they got to get to the

506
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Speaker 3: postseason first.

507
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Speaker 4: Well, if you look at their depth chart, their starting

508
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Speaker 4: point guard is Cooper Flag with a backup in Brandon

509
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Speaker 4: Williams and now third string and D'Angelo Russell. Wow, Clay Thompson,

510
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Speaker 4: like you mentioned, it's hard to watch when he's at

511
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Speaker 4: the point guard.

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Speaker 1: That's not his natural thing.

513
00:24:01,119 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 4: He hit what he scored thirty seven points on four

514
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,240
Speaker 4: dribbles once in his career.

515
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Speaker 1: That's not that's not what a point guard does.

516
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Speaker 3: The teams are picking him up, yeah, just like and

517
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,520
Speaker 3: then now all of a sudden you get set and

518
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Speaker 3: there's eight on.

519
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Speaker 1: The shock block. Yeah. But PJ.

520
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Speaker 4: Washington's been their key piece for Dog just an app Yeah,

521
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Speaker 4: Dog's a great way to describe him. He does it

522
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Speaker 4: on both ends, especially with no Anthony Davis and Derek

523
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Speaker 4: Lively right now.

524
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Speaker 1: Two guys that that hold down that Philly's Yeah, he's hurt.

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Speaker 1: So four and five spot.

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Speaker 4: A are empty vacant for Dallas, but Pj's definitely stepped up.

527
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Speaker 1: But they have pieces.

528
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,359
Speaker 4: Najie Marshall's a great piece, Dwight Howell's a great piece,

529
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Speaker 4: Caleb Martin's a solid piece. I played with Cam Christy,

530
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Speaker 4: his brother Max Christie there in Dallas as well. So

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Speaker 4: you're putting a lot on a kid in Cooper Flagg

532
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Speaker 4: to go play the point guard position, which he probably

533
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: hasn't played in years, probably since youth basketball days, to

534
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Speaker 4: go do it in the NBA without two bigs in

535
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Speaker 4: Anthony Davis and Derek Lively to help set screens and

536
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Speaker 4: free you up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: So I think there's a lot on his plate.

538
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Speaker 4: They're only two and five bad Star, but they got

539
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 4: to get guys healthy, especially Kyrie Irving. That'll help Cooper

540
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,919
Speaker 4: fly out a lot. Think about what Kyrie Irving can

541
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Speaker 4: do to help Cooper fly No. G's and day type

542
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Speaker 4: of situation. Last one on the who and Why, and

543
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 4: then we'll say goodbye.

544
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:18,920
Speaker 3: Joel Embiid or LaMelo Ball. They're both out everything. They're

545
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Speaker 3: both always they like play and then they're gone for

546
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Speaker 3: a week and.

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Speaker 1: You just play.

548
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you just see Joelle just like he didn't win

549
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,399
Speaker 4: that MVP what two three years ago and that was

550
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 4: his last chance. I think his career trajectory is not

551
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Speaker 4: going the way you watch.

552
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Speaker 1: LaMelo ball is hard to watch.

553
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Speaker 4: LaMelo ball is hard to watch, but the stuff he

554
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,639
Speaker 4: does from just a peer like Hooper standpoint is like

555
00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 4: next level Joel Emid's going to get you these gross

556
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 4: thirty point games where he's just laying things in and

557
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Speaker 4: he's followed baiting in the whole deal.

558
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Speaker 1: LaMelo's twitch, Yeah, it's phenomenal.

559
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 4: It's ridiculous, and I think he's a super underrated passer.

560
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Speaker 4: So I think if you had to pick right now,

561
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Speaker 4: I would go with LaMelo ball, just because the point

562
00:25:57,320 --> 00:25:59,800
Speaker 4: guard is such a such a good position in the NBA.

563
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Speaker 4: You need a solid one.

564
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Speaker 3: And last time, we'll see you this week, Ravens at

565
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Speaker 3: Vikings emptying your notebook.

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Speaker 1: I'll fired up.

567
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Speaker 4: I just remember watching Louisville games back in the day

568
00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:17,400
Speaker 4: and just seeing what Lamar can do. And now you're

569
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Speaker 4: watching him pass the ball. The way he's passing the ball,

570
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:24,280
Speaker 4: I think fourteen touchdowns, one interception. He's really figured it out.

571
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Speaker 4: Mark Andrews back healthy. I think that's going to help

572
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 4: him out a lot. Rashad Bateman was one of my

573
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Speaker 4: personal friends at the U and that athletes only cafeteria, Dan,

574
00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 4: you'll follow Leile another one on that offensive line. It's

575
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Speaker 4: going to be a test. But I was really really

576
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Speaker 4: excited with the way the defense played last game. I

577
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Speaker 4: think if you carry that over coming back home, if

578
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Speaker 4: you're able to do that, if you're able to put

579
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Speaker 4: pressure on Lamar, I'm sure there's going to be a spy, right.

580
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,480
Speaker 4: I think Blake Cash is probably going to have his

581
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,480
Speaker 4: eyes on number eight at all times. And then you

582
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:56,560
Speaker 4: got to stop the run. That's something that's obviously very

583
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:58,880
Speaker 4: important for this Vikings team. They didn't do it very

584
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Speaker 4: well in LA, but they did it well last game

585
00:27:01,560 --> 00:27:04,239
Speaker 4: in Detroit. Derrick Henry's a monster, but if you can

586
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 4: stop him, you shut down a lot of the things

587
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:07,440
Speaker 4: they want to do, and then you got to score

588
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 4: the ball. JJ looked really confident, and I think this

589
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 4: offense is starting to click a little bit. So I

590
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 4: got Vikings in a class one. Let's go twenty seven

591
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Speaker 4: twenty four.

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Speaker 3: School terrific work Monday, great debut, and the fifteenth will

593
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Speaker 3: be even better. Let's go and we will see you

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Speaker 3: Now nine to now never pounded the fist for the

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Speaker 3: has coming gone. Actually, like mad producer and I text

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Speaker 3: us that ever came up like vikings and trades and

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Speaker 3: what do you think of this? Norda's more inquisitive than me, naturally,

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Speaker 3: or at least at this stage of our lives. And

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Speaker 3: not even a single like quote, Hey, Hockinson has two

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Speaker 3: tds the last twenty regular season games, what do you

620
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Speaker 3: think they could get for TJ.

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Speaker 1: Hockinson?

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Speaker 3: Like, not even anything like that, nothing with any of

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Speaker 3: that with at least us two.

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Speaker 1: Why Why?

625
00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,440
Speaker 3: It's because we like the team and it's jj season

626
00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 3: and we endured sixteen different O line quintets. No gink

627
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Speaker 3: is on fire for five of them, no Addison for

628
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Speaker 3: three of them. You almost lose a game in London

629
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Speaker 3: because of a wire, and we're supposed to break up

630
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 3: this band, so that that never really was on the

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Speaker 3: minds of the nine to noon tandem. New funny when

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Speaker 3: when the tension heads the way of fifty one, fifty

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Speaker 3: eight and forty three Cashman, Grenard and Van Ginkle, what

634
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Speaker 3: happens to Javon Hargrave. Two games with those guys and

635
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 3: he has three sacks and a million pressures. Javon Hargrave

636
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 3: two games with Cashman, Grenard and Van Ginkole and we

637
00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 3: got three sacks. We like our squad and it's jj

638
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:56,400
Speaker 3: season again. Should be fascinating every every week as the

639
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 3: twenty two year old franchise quarterback grows. But he was,

640
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 3: he was so in control in the Motor City. What

641
00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 3: should the expectation be for Sunday? That's that's where the

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Speaker 3: focus of nine to Noon went, as opposed to like

643
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Speaker 3: who's available for trade and how much would you have

644
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 3: to give up to get somebody? So nothing really on

645
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:23,040
Speaker 3: the trade front here, but but there certainly are some

646
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Speaker 3: vibes from an NFL trade deadline day yesterday on which

647
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Speaker 3: we can open him. But first, first, FIEJ we'll call

648
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Speaker 3: it fie HA. Fairness and host act picked a really

649
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 3: good day yesterday to say stars won't get moved because

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Speaker 3: teams like holding on to them, And then Sauce Gardner

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Speaker 3: perceived star at least in my estimation, Sauce Gardner and

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Speaker 3: Quinn Williams get moved. Jacoby Myers ain't a star all right.

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Speaker 3: Raven's got Draymond Jones on Monday. He has four and

654
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Speaker 3: a f sacks this year for the Titans. He's a

655
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Speaker 3: defensive end and is pretty tough. He'll be in the

656
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Speaker 3: Mixed Sunday for his Ravens debut. Sauce and Quinnon and

657
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Speaker 3: stars like. I've never been as infatuated with Sauce Gardner

658
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Speaker 3: as much as most are, but always have been in

659
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:17,040
Speaker 3: love with Quinn Williams. Now Sauce goes to Indy to

660
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 3: help a middling defense and for a team sensing the

661
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 3: AFC is wide open this year. Our defense, I make

662
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,240
Speaker 3: that our offense is high end, so let's pedal to

663
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Speaker 3: first and make a run. I mean that's what That's

664
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Speaker 3: clearly what Indianapolis Colts management looked at is, let's get

665
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Speaker 3: Sauce Gardner. Let's give up two first round picks with

666
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 3: Jonathan Taylor and Pittman Junior and Ty Warren, who's fantastic,

667
00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 3: A very nice offensive line, especially with Quentin Nelson playing

668
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Speaker 3: the way he is a left guard these days.

669
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Speaker 1: Great.

670
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Speaker 3: Okay, so they do that with Sauce Gardner, But how

671
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Speaker 3: about Dallas? And Mike Florio from Pro Football Talk dot

672
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Speaker 3: Com joins around the corner, how about Dallas?

673
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Speaker 1: I don't understand it personally.

674
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Speaker 3: Well, it's when they made the moves they did it

675
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Speaker 3: caused me to think back to Monday because Jerry Jones.

676
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Speaker 3: I think Jerry, now, knowing what we know with the

677
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Speaker 3: trading deadline gone, I think Jerry Jones lost that game

678
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Speaker 3: for the.

679
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys on Monday night.

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Speaker 3: And here's why because he shared the day of that game,

681
00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 3: that Arizona game, that because he has to splash, he

682
00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:31,400
Speaker 3: has to be the center of attention, and he shared

683
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Speaker 3: that he's going to be trading. The Cowboys are going

684
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Speaker 3: to trade, and then he's like, they already had one

685
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Speaker 3: done yep for a guy who can start right now,

686
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Speaker 3: and didn't offer any names. Well, that ended up being

687
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Speaker 3: Logan Wilson, the leading tackler for the Cincinnati Bengals, so

688
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Speaker 3: off that before the Monday night football game, he probably

689
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:57,479
Speaker 3: thought they'd run through a wall to not be the

690
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 3: guy traded, when in turn, they were out to lunch

691
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,880
Speaker 3: all night, a brain boggled bunch of Cowboys, and it

692
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: went the other way that they were distracted and honestly

693
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Speaker 3: never were in the game as a home team against Arizona.

694
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Speaker 3: So now they have a new they have a new

695
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: green dot in Logan Wilson from Sincy and didn't pay

696
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Speaker 3: much to get him.

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Speaker 1: Don't mind that.

698
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Speaker 3: Then yesterday Jerry Moves a twenty twenty six second round

699
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Speaker 3: pick and a twenty twenty seven first for Quality stock

700
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Speaker 3: in Jets defensive tackle Quinn Williams. The Cowboys are three

701
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Speaker 3: five and one in a division they can't win. Just

702
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: think about that. Teams with losing records don't usually make

703
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Speaker 3: moves like this. Let's uh, let's let's bet that out

704
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Speaker 3: and unpack it with Mike Florio PFTX, Mike Florioprofootball Talk

705
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Speaker 3: dot Com, NBC's Football Night in America and an author

706
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Speaker 3: of US several books, joins us now and Mike. When

707
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Speaker 3: the with the Minnesota Vikings getting healthy at Ford Field

708
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Speaker 3: and Pauline truly one of the at least points spread wise,

709
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Speaker 3: bigger upsets of the season, What did you make of it?

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Speaker 6: And good morning, well, good morning, Paul, Good to be

711
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Speaker 6: with you. I was pleasantly surprised, maybe I should say

712
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Speaker 6: pleasantly stunned by what the Vikings were able to do.

713
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Speaker 6: They went back to Ford Field after that Week eighteen

714
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Speaker 6: game last year, where the Lions were basically the same

715
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Speaker 6: team that they had been in Week eighteen and the

716
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Speaker 6: Vikings very different. JJ McCarthy with his third NFL start,

717
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Speaker 6: and really more pressure than any quarterback has had on

718
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Speaker 6: him this season, maybe in multiple seasons when you consider

719
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Speaker 6: everything that had piled up from the do we keep

720
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Speaker 6: Sam Darnold, do we keep Daniel Jones? Do we bring

721
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Speaker 6: in Aaron Rodgers? What are we going to do with

722
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Speaker 6: the deadline? If there should be a face plant by

723
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Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy in Detroit, should we bring Kirk Cousins home?

724
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Speaker 6: At least it had to be on the edge of

725
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Speaker 6: the radar screen as a possibility. So he had to

726
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Speaker 6: show that he could get through a game like that,

727
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Speaker 6: not just healthy, but effective enough to keep it close,

728
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Speaker 6: keep it respectable, keep it as something other than the

729
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Speaker 6: national embarrassment that we saw thirteen days ago in LA

730
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Speaker 6: thirty seven to ten, where I think even the most

731
00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 6: ardent supporter would have to look at that and say, well,

732
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Speaker 6: this season's over. What are we going to do next year?

733
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Speaker 6: And to see JJ McCarthy step up in that situation

734
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Speaker 6: and remain calm and confident and determined and poised that

735
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Speaker 6: third down play I think was the most critical play

736
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Speaker 6: of his career so far, and it showed number one,

737
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 6: a confidence in and willingness to trust him with the

738
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Speaker 6: game in his hands, and to throw the ball not

739
00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:47,800
Speaker 6: to Justin Jefferson or Jordan Addison, but to Jalen Naylor.

740
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Speaker 6: I think was also an added boost and benefit. And

741
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Speaker 6: it worked, and it's the kind of thing that will

742
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,680
Speaker 6: make people believe. The stuff that made people believe at

743
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 6: the end of Week one, that got raced six nights

744
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 6: later against Atlanta, and then we haven't seen him for

745
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,840
Speaker 6: seven weeks, so he really needed to re establish himself.

746
00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 6: And what a test, what a moment, And let's see

747
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Speaker 6: where it goes from here, just like the aftermath of

748
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,439
Speaker 6: Week one, Let's see where it goes from here.

749
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 3: Fair with McCarthy, did you sense things slowed down for him?

750
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Speaker 1: It just looked more natural for the most part.

751
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Speaker 6: Well, I never sens panic, and we always look for panic.

752
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: Can we see panic? And players like and I don't

753
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 6: want to pick on him, but this is the most

754
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 6: obvious current example because he's making fifty three million per

755
00:36:33,080 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 6: year to a Tonkabaila. When the play isn't there or

756
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 6: when it doesn't unfold the way it's supposed to, what

757
00:36:39,880 --> 00:36:42,000
Speaker 6: do we see? We see panic in the demeanor. I'm

758
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:47,000
Speaker 6: a big proponent of studying very carefully the vibe coming

759
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 6: off of a quarterback during and after a play and

760
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,400
Speaker 6: during a game when things may not be going well.

761
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Speaker 6: What messages are being sent by the facial expressions, the

762
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Speaker 6: things that are being said, the body language, because that's

763
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Speaker 6: the guy every one's watching on the sideline, out on

764
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 6: the field, in the huddle. What kind of confidence is

765
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 6: being exuded or not from the player. So I think

766
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 6: the demeanor was impressive. The confidence was there, and he

767
00:37:15,160 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 6: had full faith in his ability to do what Kevin

768
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:24,960
Speaker 6: O'Connell needed him to do in order to execute a

769
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 6: game plan that worked. And they had the right plan

770
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Speaker 6: on both sides of the ball. And it helps when

771
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 6: the defense guess is right as to how to go

772
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Speaker 6: about attacking a Jared Goff. Pressure up the middle, get

773
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Speaker 6: him off the spot. That's a guy who had to

774
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Speaker 6: mention Kirk Cousins again. You know we've seen this. When

775
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 6: the walls close in, what happens. There are certain quarterbacks

776
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Speaker 6: who can make things happen when the walls close in,

777
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 6: and there are some who can't. And so if you

778
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: make Jared Goff move, if you put pressure in his face,

779
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 6: things are different. And hey, look it wasn't easy and

780
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,720
Speaker 6: that first drive, Lions did the hot night through butter

781
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,080
Speaker 6: thing right down the field. They had that fourth down play,

782
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,680
Speaker 6: fourth and four and they you know, they popped it

783
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:11,160
Speaker 6: into seven points and it was like, oh, here we go. Yeah.

784
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Speaker 6: And that's the circumstance that JJ McCarthy had when he

785
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Speaker 6: went out on the field for the first time for

786
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 6: a game in Michigan since his last Michigan home game

787
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 6: against Ohio State two years ago. I thought it was incredible.

788
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 6: But if we learned nothing from week one, it's that

789
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 6: it can all change when you come home and you know,

790
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 6: face a hot Ravens team that could easily neutralize any

791
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 6: positivity coming out of last Sunday's game.

792
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Speaker 3: And I'm glad you went there to close on the

793
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 3: local team. The Ravens are favored by three and a

794
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 3: half or four at Minnesota and against pretty much the

795
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: same Vikings team that just beat Detroit. I mean, I

796
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,120
Speaker 3: guess Aaron Jones maybe a little dicey into this game,

797
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,319
Speaker 3: but it seems like it's more positive than negative, and

798
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Speaker 3: all the others should play.

799
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Speaker 1: It's what do you think of the Ravens.

800
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's three and a half or four on

801
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Speaker 3: the road, that's a big number.

802
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 6: Well, look, they were decisive favorites the week they were

803
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 6: coming out of their buy against the Chicago Bears, and

804
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:16,320
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson didn't play in that game. So the Ravens

805
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 6: are a talented team. And as we were focused on

806
00:39:18,760 --> 00:39:22,360
Speaker 6: Lamar Jackson's health, the reality is the defense got healthy

807
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 6: and the Ravens are a very good team, and they've

808
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 6: weathered their storm of injuries and adversity and they're now

809
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 6: ready to try to make a move. But I don't

810
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:34,760
Speaker 6: think it's quite the easy check mark that people are saying.

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Speaker 6: After the Ravens beat the Dolphins twenty eight to six

812
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,759
Speaker 6: last Thursday night, the analysts are all looking at the

813
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Speaker 6: upcoming schedule for the Ravens and I say, win win,

814
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 6: win win, win win win win win. They like, who whoa, whoa, whoa,

815
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Speaker 6: whoa whoa. Let's not put that w against the Vikings

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Speaker 6: in Permanent inc just yet, because that's not going to

817
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 6: be an easy game for either team. It could go

818
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 6: down to the wire, it could come down to a

819
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 6: field goal, who knows, But it's not going to be

820
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 6: an easy game for the Ravens an easy game for

821
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 6: the Vikings. In Mike Tomlin, the Steelers coach, said something

822
00:40:04,080 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 6: that should be another one of his T shirt slogans

823
00:40:08,200 --> 00:40:10,680
Speaker 6: because it makes so much sense and it crystallizes what

824
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:13,920
Speaker 6: happened for the Steelers in two home games. On a

825
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 6: Sunday night against the Packers and then the following Sunday

826
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Speaker 6: against the colt you go from drinking wine to squashing

827
00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 6: grapes pretty quickly. In the NFL and NFL games come

828
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Speaker 6: down to a handful of moments five plays over the

829
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Speaker 6: course of sixty minutes of football, and whether you win

830
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:32,520
Speaker 6: or lose those moments really goes a long way toward

831
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Speaker 6: determining whether you win or lose the game, regardless of

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Speaker 6: the final score. A key moment only, I mean, look

833
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 6: at the Chargers game. If the replay standard had been

834
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Speaker 6: applied as designed, clear and obvious, that's a touchdown by

835
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Speaker 6: Isaiah Rodgers on the opening drive of the game, and

836
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Speaker 6: that game takes on a different vibe the rest of

837
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Speaker 6: the way. So those moments really do matter. And the

838
00:40:53,320 --> 00:40:56,000
Speaker 6: Vikings made the moments go their way against the Lions,

839
00:40:56,040 --> 00:40:59,640
Speaker 6: and whoever makes those those those key handful of moments

840
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Speaker 6: go there way on Sunday is going to win the

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Speaker 6: game Between Baltimore and Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: P f T.

843
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Speaker 3: Green Bay has to be the most up and down

844
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Speaker 3: team in the NFL at the midway point, I lose

845
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Speaker 3: to Meagan and at home, and at home is massive favorites.

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Speaker 3: You you lose to Carolina, you beat the Lions, your

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Speaker 3: Crossya Roger at Pittsburgh Football Knight in America. Why do

848
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,319
Speaker 3: you think that that is with them? Absolutely? You know,

849
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 3: at least through eight playing to the level of the competition.

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Speaker 1: I think one of.

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Speaker 6: The problems is and I hate to say it, because

852
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 6: I have always felt bad for Jordan Love. He's the

853
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 6: one guy who didn't ask to be thrust into the

854
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 6: middle of the Aaron Rodgers Green Bay Packers front office drama,

855
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 6: and he was a good soldier for three years. He

856
00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 6: did everything they asked him to do. He was drafted

857
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 6: into that situation and he had a very impressive back

858
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,319
Speaker 6: half of the twenty twenty three season. It earned him

859
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 6: the contract that he signed last year. And then last

860
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 6: year he had the injury in Week one, and I

861
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,719
Speaker 6: think he's got a stubbornness about playing through injury when

862
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 6: maybe he shouldn't. And I think his injuries impaired his

863
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 6: performance last year. But boy, he had some moments this

864
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 6: year where game on the line, time for a big throw,

865
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Speaker 6: had that interception against the Browns that opened the door

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Speaker 6: to the upset. Not making the big throws in the

867
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Speaker 6: big moments, not having that ability to deliver. I talk

868
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 6: about those five plays per game. When one of those

869
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 6: five plays for the Packers is Jordan Law has got

870
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 6: to go out and make a big throw. What do

871
00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: we see? You know, he had that interception that was

872
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 6: kind of thrown up for grabs against the Panthers, and

873
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 6: I just wonder, is he a guy you can rely

874
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 6: on in a big spot. And it's a fair question.

875
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 6: And you know what's hovering over this whole Packers thing.

876
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 6: Even though their record is very good, they were the

877
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 6: one seed in the NFC entering the game against the Panthers,

878
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 6: the game they should have easily won in theory, and

879
00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:55,040
Speaker 6: before the season, the new team president at policy said, hey,

880
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:57,239
Speaker 6: we'll take up the question of whether or not we

881
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,279
Speaker 6: extend Matt Lafour the head coach, and brag good. It's

882
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 6: the GM after the season, and if they don't get

883
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:07,800
Speaker 6: these deals after the season, they enter next year lame ducks,

884
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 6: and who knows what that policy's going to do. It's

885
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 6: no different than having a new owner for a team.

886
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 6: And when you get a new owner, what's the new

887
00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 6: owner want because the people who were in place weren't

888
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 6: hired by that owner. It's no different than when you

889
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 6: get a new GM what does that person want by

890
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,319
Speaker 6: way of a coach? When you get a new coach,

891
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:26,360
Speaker 6: what does that person want by way of a quarterback?

892
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 6: And the futures of both Guta, Kunston Laflor could be

893
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,759
Speaker 6: hinging on what happens the rest of the way, and

894
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 6: it just feels like it's teetering and to go either way,

895
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 6: especially without Tucker Kraft, that's a massive hit because he's

896
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 6: a very reliable target, productive tight end. They're going to

897
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 6: have to move on without him. They got to find

898
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 6: a way to win games, and they have to win

899
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,200
Speaker 6: games convincingly. They've had games this year where they look

900
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 6: like the team they were supposed to be, like when

901
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,239
Speaker 6: they beat the Lions Week one, they beat the Commanders.

902
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 6: On the short week, they beat the Steelers. But they've

903
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 6: had some moments those two losses and that tie to

904
00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, it's like, what what's really going on with

905
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:07,719
Speaker 6: this team? So they got the Lions again coming up.

906
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 6: They got the Vikings twice. You know, it's it's it's

907
00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,200
Speaker 6: going to be a fight for them each and every week,

908
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 6: and we've got to see more from that offense. We've

909
00:44:15,320 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 6: got to see more from Jordan Love.

910
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:19,960
Speaker 3: You mentioned the Cowboys a couple of clothes here with

911
00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 3: Mike Florio Pro Football Talk dot Com. The Cowboys are

912
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:26,120
Speaker 3: three to five and one, and I think with no

913
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:29,239
Speaker 3: chance to win their division. You have Jerry Jones is

914
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 3: trading first and seconds and making big trades, and that

915
00:44:33,000 --> 00:44:37,960
Speaker 3: Monday distraction that did them no favors against Arizona.

916
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 6: Right, what Monday distraction?

917
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: He went and.

918
00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:44,880
Speaker 3: Said that we will be trading and we already have

919
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:49,960
Speaker 3: one done for a starter who can play immediately. So,

920
00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,160
Speaker 3: I mean, I just know how locker rooms work, man.

921
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 3: I mean, when you do things like that that you

922
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:56,440
Speaker 3: may think it'll be like, all right, they're going to

923
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,759
Speaker 3: run through a wall for us. Now, now it went

924
00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: the other way. They were brain boggled and they had

925
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 3: no idea what their their owner, slash GM was talking about.

926
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 6: Well that assumes that they even hear what he says.

927
00:45:08,719 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 6: I think Dak Prescott at some point over the past

928
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 6: few years said, I just tuned this guy out, and

929
00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:15,680
Speaker 6: I think that's what the locker room has to do.

930
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 6: And I asked you which distraction, because there were multiple

931
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 6: distractions from Jerry Jones when he appeared with Steven A.

932
00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 6: Smith on SiriusXM on Monday, and one thing Jones did,

933
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 6: he said what I've believed for years now. He's a

934
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 6: carnival barker, he's a huckster, he's a snake oil salesman.

935
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 6: He wants the team to be relevant. And he said,

936
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 6: when things get slow, I'll stir the sh dash t.

937
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,600
Speaker 6: He said that, and he knows that this is all

938
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 6: part of a game, it's part of a grift. It's

939
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 6: about getting people interested in his team. And look at

940
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 6: what he's done. You could argue that the fact that

941
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:57,040
Speaker 6: they have been able to continue to generate massive audiences,

942
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 6: they continue to be the team that every network wants

943
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:03,399
Speaker 6: on it to airwaves because people watch even though they

944
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 6: haven't played in an NFC championship game in thirty years.

945
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,440
Speaker 6: In the first thirty years of the Super Bowl, they

946
00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 6: played in the game to get to the super Bowl

947
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:13,359
Speaker 6: sixteen times. In the next thirty years of the Super

948
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:18,200
Speaker 6: Bowl zero times, and They're still a hot commodity because

949
00:46:18,239 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 6: of Jerry Jones, and he prioritizes that over winning. Now.

950
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 6: He tried to argue the other day, I don't think

951
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,960
Speaker 6: anything I've ever said has kept us from scoring a touchdown. Well,

952
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 6: there's no bright line connecting the two. But his approach

953
00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,800
Speaker 6: and his attitude and his desire to make things interesting

954
00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:38,560
Speaker 6: and to keep the team relevant that supersedes good football decisions.

955
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:43,000
Speaker 6: And maybe these trades that were made yesterday for Logan Wilson,

956
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 6: and I mean a guy that was benched by one

957
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 6: of the worst defenses we've seen in recent years, I

958
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,640
Speaker 6: don't know that that's going to help. All due respect

959
00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:51,440
Speaker 6: to Logan Wilson, I mean, if you can't get on

960
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 6: the field for one of the worst defenses we've seen

961
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 6: in recent years, I don't know how much you're going

962
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 6: to help another one of the worst defenses in the NFL.

963
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 6: In this Quinn Williams trade, I don't know that that

964
00:47:00,360 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 6: helps them to give up a first round pick, a

965
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 6: second round pick, and a player to get Quinn Williams.

966
00:47:05,200 --> 00:47:09,320
Speaker 6: But it's about making the Cowboys relevant and doing something.

967
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 6: You know, there's a game brewing in twenty two days

968
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 6: late afternoon on Thanksgiving where the Cowboys and the Chiefs

969
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 6: are getting together. That's going to be the most watched

970
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:24,279
Speaker 6: regular season game in NFL history. And hey, Jerry had

971
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 6: to do something, I think to keep that train on

972
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:27,160
Speaker 6: the tracks.

973
00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 5: That's the problem.

974
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 6: That's what it comes down to. And that's what happens

975
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 6: when you buy a team and you make yourself the GM.

976
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 6: Think about that. That was all pre internet, pre the

977
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:41,000
Speaker 6: current state of sports talk radio, and there's constant analysis

978
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 6: and scrutiny. No one could get away from that. Now.

979
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 6: You know, if I would somehow stumble into a one

980
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,399
Speaker 6: hundred billion dollar underground natural gas reserve, which Jerry did

981
00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 6: last week, and of course he said, that's why I'm

982
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,000
Speaker 6: talking to you and not trying to make my crappy

983
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,839
Speaker 6: defense better. But if I would be able to buy

984
00:47:57,840 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 6: a team and made myself the GM, like who and

985
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 6: the hell would accept that? I've got no credentials to

986
00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:06,399
Speaker 6: be the GM, And today the only credentials he has

987
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 6: is he's done it for thirty six years. Well, you know,

988
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,440
Speaker 6: if you do a job you're not fit to do

989
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 6: and you're not qualified to do for thirty six years,

990
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,799
Speaker 6: does that make you any more qualified. I don't know,

991
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:17,759
Speaker 6: but that's the reality. He should take some of that

992
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,279
Speaker 6: hundred billion and hire a real general manager. And if

993
00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 6: you're going to sit up in the suite and sit

994
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 6: with Stephen A. Smith and be a glorified fan, then

995
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,160
Speaker 6: do that. If you're going to be the GM, you

996
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 6: got to set aside this idea that you're out here saying,

997
00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 6: step right up, ladies and gentlemen, boys of girls, boys

998
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 6: and girls, children of all ages, and come watch the

999
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 6: great Dallas Cowboys do their thing. You got to separate

1000
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:43,800
Speaker 6: those two positions. And I think that's one of the

1001
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 6: reasons why they haven't been to an NFC championship in

1002
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:49,440
Speaker 6: thirty years, because the guy that is out there marketing

1003
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 6: the team is also building the team, and I think

1004
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:53,800
Speaker 6: those two jobs do not mesh.

1005
00:48:54,360 --> 00:48:58,279
Speaker 3: Lastly, you know, I don't love Sauce Gardner. I like

1006
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,320
Speaker 3: him a lot, maybe because he's a but Indie pedals

1007
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 3: those two first for that corner. The Eagles and Ravens

1008
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,719
Speaker 3: knew they needed pass rush, went out and got some. Uh,

1009
00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 3: this could be a very wide open year with Super

1010
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 3: Bowl representation. I mean, nobody, nobody's standing out, and I

1011
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:18,120
Speaker 3: wonder if Denver sitting on something big.

1012
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think about that?

1013
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:25,160
Speaker 6: Well, this Colt's trade for sas Gardner is I think

1014
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 6: a prime example of something that I always say. And

1015
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:31,520
Speaker 6: you know, fans get emotionally attached to players. They buy

1016
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 6: their jerseys, they they watch their highlights, they you know,

1017
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,840
Speaker 6: see them on TV. They they become their guys. But

1018
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:44,719
Speaker 6: for every team, every player is a cog in a

1019
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 6: machine that is eventually going to be replaced, whether it's

1020
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 6: because the piece gets broken, whether it's because the piece

1021
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:53,600
Speaker 6: is worn down, whether it's because the piece decides it

1022
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:55,560
Speaker 6: wants out and it has a plan to get out,

1023
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:58,920
Speaker 6: like Michael Parsons did in Dallas. And for the Jets,

1024
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:00,520
Speaker 6: it was as simple as this, we got a piece

1025
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 6: in the machine that we're kind of ambivalent about, and

1026
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 6: they specifically structured the contract a sauce Gardener to make

1027
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 6: it tradable. So along come the Colts and they view

1028
00:50:10,360 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 6: sauce Gardener is a more desirable piece of the machine

1029
00:50:14,320 --> 00:50:17,000
Speaker 6: in Indy than the Jets did in New York, and

1030
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 6: they're willing to pay for it. You know, somebody comes

1031
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 6: along and hey, you know, yeah, I like your car,

1032
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 6: what do you want for it, well it's not for sale.

1033
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 6: Well how about this, Well, now it's for sale, and

1034
00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 6: for two first round picks and a player. The Jets

1035
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 6: were willing to rip that part out of the machine

1036
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 6: and hand it to the Indianapolis Colts. And I think

1037
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:37,040
Speaker 6: it's all about system too, zone versus man. If the

1038
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:40,280
Speaker 6: Colts use a lot of zone and they do, Gardener

1039
00:50:40,280 --> 00:50:43,439
Speaker 6: fits it better. And Aaron Glenn's been the coach there

1040
00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 6: long enough to know that sauce Gardener was not untouchable.

1041
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,440
Speaker 6: There aren't many players in the NFL who are untouchable.

1042
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 6: Who if you call up and say, hey, how about

1043
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 6: two first round picks and a player, and they hang

1044
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 6: up the phone. Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen. There's a short

1045
00:50:56,080 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 6: list of guys that you hang up the phone, and

1046
00:50:58,120 --> 00:51:00,360
Speaker 6: the Jets clearly didn't view. Sauce Gardener is one of

1047
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 6: those guys. And the Colts were willing to make that

1048
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,960
Speaker 6: trade to get that guy into their building because they're

1049
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:07,719
Speaker 6: just not trying to win it this year. They're trying

1050
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,719
Speaker 6: to build something sustainable. Sauce Gardner isn't a rental. Sauce

1051
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 6: Gardner is a buy. He's an acquisition who's going to

1052
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 6: be in that machine in Indy for years to come.

1053
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: I appreciate you man.

1054
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,600
Speaker 3: Have a good week, all right, Leopaul FC Youbut Mike

1055
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,360
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1056
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1057
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1058
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1059
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