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Speaker 1: As part of our non stop coverage of the NFL,

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Speaker 1: Your home for the twelfth Man proudly presents former Seahawks

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Speaker 1: head coach and Super Bowl champion Mike Combgrin. Brought to

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Speaker 1: for over twenty years now. From the five twenty Bar

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Speaker 1: and Grail in Bellevue, Mike hom grid with Softy and.

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Speaker 2: Did all right, here we go, baby. This is why

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Speaker 2: I was just thinking about this. This is why we

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Speaker 2: pay you the big bucks. Why is that to be

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Speaker 2: here for this moment, biggest game of the year.

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Speaker 3: You know what?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 3: Pretty exciting? Pretty good?

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Speaker 2: Have you actually been wondering why we pay you the

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Speaker 2: big bucks? Is that what you were talking about? Like

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Speaker 2: you didn't really know?

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Speaker 3: Well, I did a little research this weekend and found

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Speaker 3: out about what everyone's getting paid.

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Speaker 4: Yes, oh you did, huh? Yeah, so you know that

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Speaker 4: Dick and I are both woefully underpaid.

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Speaker 3: Well, I wouldn't say that I don't think I should

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Speaker 3: say that on the air.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you just did, knowing you a little love here.

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Speaker 4: Why don't you say it all?

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Speaker 3: Help us out? I said on the on the totem poll,

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Speaker 3: I would not be near the top.

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Speaker 4: Yeah you would, Yeah, it would be I would be.

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Speaker 3: You know, you helped me get I will always thank

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Speaker 3: you for this. You helped me get the first one

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Speaker 3: hundred dollars.

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Speaker 4: That's right.

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Speaker 3: That was not right?

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Speaker 4: Remember that, Remember that consation.

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Speaker 2: We had at Hector's which is now gone. I mean,

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Speaker 2: imagine being me having to go convince this guy. Scared

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Speaker 2: the hell out of me. Here comes Mike Conger.

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Speaker 4: What do you want? You want to do a radio

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Speaker 4: yet with us?

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Speaker 2: Here he is fifteen years later, he's still with us.

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Speaker 2: But Mike confidence with us? Man, this is exciting Seahawks

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Speaker 2: and Rams for the NFC Championship on Sunday. I don't know, man,

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Speaker 2: I mean go back to last weekend just boat racing

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Speaker 2: the Niners forty one to six. How much confidence You've

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Speaker 2: used the word booie a lot this week? Should our

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Speaker 2: confidence be buoyed as Seahawks fans after what we saw

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Speaker 2: they do or they did to the forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: last Saturday.

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Speaker 3: Well that game last Saturday. Anybody that watched it and

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Speaker 3: realizes now that how good the Seahawks can be. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because the forty nine ers. Listen, the forty nine ers,

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Speaker 3: look at they were hurt and they weren't the team

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Speaker 3: that they have been. But they've still finished the season

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Speaker 3: twelve and four or something or twelve and five, and

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Speaker 3: so you know what they did that doesn't usually happen.

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Speaker 3: Look at all the other playoff games, all of them

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Speaker 3: were really close and they just decided by a field

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Speaker 3: goal here and there. So that was the only one

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Speaker 3: that did it. And that's off to the Seahawks. They

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Speaker 3: were ready and they just took it to the forty

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Speaker 3: nine ers. They just blasted them. Now, having said that,

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Speaker 3: let's throw a little caution, a little caution this week,

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Speaker 3: rams are a better team than the forty nine ers. Yeah, right,

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Speaker 3: and so we'll see. But listen, I said this a

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Speaker 3: few weeks ago, and I'll say it again. I always

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Speaker 3: lose my bets to Dick, but I will say it again.

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Speaker 3: I think that this is the year the Seahawks are

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Speaker 3: gonna win it all. I really believe that.

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Speaker 5: You know that the forty nine ers were banged up,

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Speaker 5: no question, but they they did go to Philadelphia the

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Speaker 5: week before and win on the road against.

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Speaker 4: The defending champions. So it's funny people like forget that.

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Speaker 4: They're just like, oh, the Seahawks killed them and then

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Speaker 4: they killed them again.

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Speaker 5: No, they went to Philadelphia and won, so they weren't

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Speaker 4: But what they were, coach, I think is they were tired.

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Speaker 5: And I'm wondering how much is fatigue a factor?

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Speaker 4: If you're the La Rams.

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Speaker 5: You have gone to Carolina on the road, you last

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Speaker 5: week went on the road and played in ten degree

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Speaker 5: temperatures into overtime, and meanwhile Seattle's played what two and

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Speaker 5: a half quarters of football in the last three weeks.

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Speaker 4: How much do you think that is a factor in this?

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Speaker 3: I think it is a factor. How much it's going

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Speaker 3: to be we'll see. But obviously the Seahawks have an

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Speaker 3: so yeah, it's going to be a factor. That something

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Speaker 3: the Rams have to overcome what they expect to win.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, the thing that I am dying to know

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Speaker 2: is what the hell happened in that last game we

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Speaker 2: played against the Rams, because I'm looking, Mike, at the

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Speaker 2: end of the fourth quarter, LA had four hundred yards

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Speaker 2: the game, they had four hundred and ninety yards of

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Speaker 2: that game with McVeigh just having his way with McDonald

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Speaker 2: and then something clicked obviously for the Hawks. I mean

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Speaker 2: what we're to click is Rashid Hiahed's return. That got

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Speaker 2: the whole thing energized. Right, So go back to that

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Speaker 2: game and tell me, if you're Sean McVeigh, do you

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Speaker 4: Figured something out against the Seahawk defense?

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Speaker 3: Well? I think they. I think they know each other

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Speaker 3: like as good as you can know each other, right, Okay,

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Speaker 3: So the fact that they were able to do that

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Speaker 3: tells me, well, they have good offensive people. They're a

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Speaker 3: good offensive team. I think some people are Are they

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Speaker 3: the best in offensive team? And you know, yes, offense,

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Speaker 3: and so they have the people. Now that game, Sean

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Speaker 3: McVay is feeling very badly about that game. I think

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Speaker 3: was thirty to fourteen at one point, right, it was

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Speaker 3: correct and then all of a sudden, you don't lose

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Speaker 3: games like that. You know, you don't lose.

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Speaker 4: You think that still piss him off.

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Speaker 3: He's thinking about it, Yeah, and he thinks about it.

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Speaker 3: He goes, Okay, what could I have done? I've heard

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Speaker 3: him say this, and every coach says, most coaches say it.

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Speaker 3: Look at yourself first. Look at yourself first. What did

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Speaker 3: I do in that game that I could have done differently,

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Speaker 3: have a different outcome? And that's he's looked at that. Okay,

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Speaker 3: Then he puts that aside. He goes, I'm not doing

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Speaker 3: gonna handle it this way. And so, but that's what

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Speaker 3: you do. That's what coaches do.

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Speaker 4: Coach.

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Speaker 5: I was watching that Bears Rams game last weekend, rooting

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Speaker 4: But as we got closer to the end of the game,

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Speaker 5: I rooting for the team because Caleb Williams is crazy?

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Speaker 4: He is crazy good at some of the throws that

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Speaker 5: So did the most dangerous Now obviously the most veteran

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Speaker 5: potentially lose that game last week?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? He did? I mean he he did? I mean

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Speaker 3: that team did. I had the same feeling, Dick because

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Speaker 3: how did that happen? But I think if the Rams,

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Speaker 3: but Caleb Williams and what he can do fits in

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Speaker 3: And I don't think there Their secondary is okay, it's okay,

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Speaker 3: in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, should we ask Mike the question? We started shows

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Speaker 4: to do it?

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Speaker 2: So I got text from a buddy of mine, my

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Speaker 2: friend Justin's big, big fan of yours, by the way,

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Speaker 2: Uh you've met him actually a couple of times.

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Speaker 4: And he he he asked me, would you rather have.

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Speaker 2: The ball down four, one play from the five yard

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Speaker 2: line needing a touchdown to beat the Rams, or would

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Speaker 2: you rather be up for on defense and the Rams

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Speaker 2: have to score a touchdown on your defense to win

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Speaker 2: the game. What do you want, you feel more comfortable

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Speaker 2: in your defense stopping them, or Donald the offense getting

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Speaker 2: the touchdown.

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Speaker 3: You know how I love hypothetically. Why I know how I.

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Speaker 4: Love that Now you're not the coach here because if

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Speaker 4: you're the coach, I know.

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Speaker 3: What you'd pick, you'd.

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Speaker 4: Want the ball.

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Speaker 3: I mean, but but in reality, uh is the.

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Speaker 4: Coach the fan? I mean?

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Speaker 2: Just you know again, if you were coaching in this game,

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Speaker 2: and you had Mike McDonald's defense, and you had Sam Donald, and.

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Speaker 3: You're a Seahawks fan, You're you're.

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Speaker 2: Coaching this game. Coaching, You're coaching the game. Okay, Because

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Speaker 2: of course I want you to put your coach.

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Speaker 3: I want want offense.

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Speaker 4: You want to be offense.

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Speaker 2: You want to be down by four and need to

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Speaker 2: score as opposed to protecting the league.

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Speaker 4: Why?

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Speaker 3: Because I have confidence in our offense. I always have

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Speaker 3: my sheet. Would this play to win the game? I've

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Speaker 3: thought about it, I've planned for it, and that's what

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Speaker 4: Well, let's talk about that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I asked the question I was asking, I

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Speaker 5: had the same answer because I thought there might be

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Speaker 5: something in the back pocket that the Rams haven't seen.

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Speaker 5: How many of those plays do you have in your

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Speaker 5: back pocket that you can choose from that you know

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Speaker 5: that Sean McVay has not seen before.

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Speaker 3: Well, you probably have one in each category, or a

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Speaker 3: couple in each category. On your play sheet. You know

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Speaker 3: you have first and ten, you have second down, you

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Speaker 3: have third down, you have third and short, you have

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Speaker 3: goal line. You have a game, a play to win

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Speaker 3: the game. So you don't have too many because you

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Speaker 3: can't prepare and do them properly during the week. But

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Speaker 3: you have some. Yeah, yeah, you have some. I remember

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Speaker 3: I remember a play on the goal line that we

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Speaker 3: had against Carolina and they had not seen it, and

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Speaker 3: I said, this is going to work, is absolutely going

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Speaker 3: to work. And sure enough, the guy was white. You know,

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Speaker 3: they couldn't cover. It was a goal line play out

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Speaker 3: the five yard line and that through the ball and

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Speaker 3: the ball got tipped. The ball got tipped right, the

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Speaker 3: guy was wide open. Okay, now it didn't work. It

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Speaker 3: did not work, but it should have worked.

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Speaker 4: What time of the game did you run that? Do

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Speaker 4: you remember when it was?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 4: I don't, okay, but it wasn't the last play of

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Speaker 4: the game.

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about it last place.

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Speaker 4: Did you kick their butt? Let's do this.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna break Kurt Warner with a K, your former

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Speaker 2: quarterback in Green Bay, is gonna join us. And then

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Speaker 2: Kurt Warner with a C will join us tomorrow on

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Speaker 2: the radio show.

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Speaker 2: All right, boys and girls, we are back of the

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Speaker 2: until seven o'clock tonight. But joining us Mike right now

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Speaker 4: The great Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 2: Kurt at Softy Dick and Mike Holmgren and Kurt. I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you, Mike is very nervous because he doesn't want

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Speaker 2: he's he's softened a bit. He doesn't yell at anymore.

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Speaker 2: He's a different man, I promise you.

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Speaker 3: You know, Kurt, don't even answer that, Kirk, don't even

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Speaker 3: I rarely made any mistakes in my coaching career. Yeah right,

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Speaker 3: you know that. The number one biggest mistake. Yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: Ah well, Kurt, I'll tell you what my mistake is

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Speaker 7: I was just he was, hey, coach. He was intimidating

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Speaker 7: It was probably the best thing that could have happened

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Speaker 7: So I appreciate you, but but it's always good to

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Speaker 3: Well, thanks, Kurt, and now now hand me a napkin

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Speaker 3: please that I'm sweating her. Didn't know what he was

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Speaker 7: But I think I'm definitely surprised that you know, your couple,

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Speaker 7: Well, I think the biggest thing, coach is you have

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Speaker 7: What is my answer? How do I a answer that question?

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Speaker 3: Well, we're privileged to have the Hall of Fame quarterback

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Speaker 3: I'm sure your coach said they're probably going to double

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Speaker 7: I mean you mentioned it. They did double him a

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Speaker 7: You've got to switch that up in certain situations. If

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Speaker 7: And so Mike McDonald and the Seattle team has been

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Speaker 3: Well, you know I've been. I've been all season long here,

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Speaker 7: You know that. You know everybody talks about the playoff

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Speaker 7: the field in half and all that. Like, he's really

440
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Speaker 7: good in those situations. And that's where you want to live.

441
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Speaker 7: If you're Seattle, if you're the Rams, you want to

442
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Speaker 7: stop all of that and go, Okay, Sam, show us

443
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Speaker 7: you can beat us.

444
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Speaker 3: Now.

445
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Speaker 7: The one beautiful thing is that he did that in

446
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Speaker 7: the last game when they were down and he had

447
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Speaker 7: to bring him back and it was more in that

448
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 7: mode and he proved, I think something to a lot

449
00:20:29,320 --> 00:20:32,240
Speaker 7: of people. But this is another element. You know, you're

450
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Speaker 7: in a championship game. You haven't truly been tested that

451
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,639
Speaker 7: way in which you have to carry your team. If

452
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Speaker 7: they get into one of those games, that's going to

453
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Speaker 7: be the question. And he'll have a chance if they do,

454
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Speaker 7: to answer that question for everybody. And so that to me, coach,

455
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Speaker 7: is really the only thing that's sitting out there with

456
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Speaker 7: Sam Darnold. Doesn't mean he's a bad quarterback, doesn't mean

457
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Speaker 7: he hasn't had an incredible year and two incredible years,

458
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Speaker 7: two fourteen win seasons, all that stuff is phenomenal. But

459
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Speaker 7: you know as well as I do, there are some

460
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Speaker 7: good starting quarterbacks in this league and there's some great ones,

461
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Speaker 7: and to me, he's yet to prove he can be

462
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Speaker 7: a great one. But he's been really really good for

463
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Speaker 7: two years.

464
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Speaker 3: Fair enough, I think the two It kind of leads

465
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Speaker 3: me to my last question, because the guys at the

466
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Speaker 3: table want to ask you some stuff.

467
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Speaker 4: No, we're good.

468
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Speaker 3: No, no, right, but.

469
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Speaker 2: Kurt, I'm having a cocktails we speak, just watching you

470
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Speaker 2: guys talk.

471
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Speaker 7: Man, this is keep going away and I should be

472
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Speaker 7: there in person. Man.

473
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Speaker 3: No, but Zach Sharbonnay got injured and hurt in the

474
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Speaker 3: last game and can't play. So ken Walker is really

475
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Speaker 3: kind of by himself. They have not done that all

476
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Speaker 3: season long. They balanced them up, and in the last

477
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Speaker 3: few games where they've really cranked out the rushing yardage,

478
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Speaker 3: it's been both of them. Now they just have Walker

479
00:21:53,480 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 3: and if if he Sam might have to he might

480
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Speaker 3: have to crank it up. How do you see the

481
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Speaker 3: Russian game? It's just one back like that.

482
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

483
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Speaker 7: I mean that's a huge loss for Seattle, and you know,

484
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Speaker 7: I was bummed to see that I really think. You know,

485
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Speaker 7: there's been times this year where that to me has

486
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Speaker 7: been the better back of the two. And Kenneth is great,

487
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Speaker 7: but but Zach, you know, brings a different kind of

488
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 7: mentality and that physicality, and you feel like every time

489
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Speaker 7: he touches it, even though Kenneth can go the distance,

490
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Speaker 7: that Zach is going to get positive yards and he's

491
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Speaker 7: going to physically punish a defense. So that one two

492
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Speaker 7: punch of those two guys I think really made this

493
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Speaker 7: run game unique and special. And so that to me

494
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Speaker 7: is a huge huge loss for Seattle. You know, we've

495
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Speaker 7: seen Kenneth at times have to carry this team. He

496
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Speaker 7: did it when he was really young, so I believe

497
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Speaker 7: he can do that. But I do believe it changes

498
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Speaker 7: the dynamic of their run game and and what a

499
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Speaker 7: defense has to expect without sharbon A you know, being

500
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Speaker 7: that you know that that that second punch that they

501
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Speaker 7: can deliver. So so I'm very interested to see how

502
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Speaker 7: that shows up in this game and what kind of

503
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Speaker 7: effect that has in this game. But really bummed for

504
00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,520
Speaker 7: the young man because I thought he was playing well

505
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Speaker 7: and he's such a huge part of what they've done

506
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Speaker 7: this year. So it's disappointing, kind of like the Bonis thing.

507
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Speaker 7: It's disappointing when you have key cogs that get injured

508
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Speaker 7: in the divisional round and don't get a chance to

509
00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 7: really have their impact and for a chance to go

510
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Speaker 7: to the super Bowl.

511
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Speaker 3: Oh, well said you know, I again, we're talking with

512
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Speaker 3: Kurt Warner, Hall of Fame quarterback, who was the only

513
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Speaker 3: mistake I ever made as a coach. You know, but

514
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Speaker 3: we won't, we won't go into that out. You know

515
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Speaker 3: what you've You've been with a couple of teams. You

516
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 3: yourself have gone and played for different teams. How important

517
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,000
Speaker 3: is the coach to quarterback connection or offensive coordinator to

518
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Speaker 3: quarterback connection. I'm talking now in the case of Sam

519
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Speaker 3: and and Kubiak.

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Speaker 7: It's huge. You know, when you move from one system

521
00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,399
Speaker 7: to another, you know, you very seldom see, you know,

522
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 7: really good or great quarterbacks have great success in more

523
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Speaker 7: than one place. You know, a lot of these guys

524
00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 7: that you know that end up having great careers stay

525
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Speaker 7: in one place with one system for a long period

526
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Speaker 7: of time because they've gotten either comfortable in that system

527
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 7: or that system has allowed them to play to their

528
00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:31,160
Speaker 7: their highest potential. And so when you bounce from one

529
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Speaker 7: place to another. That's not always an easy transition, you know,

530
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Speaker 7: with what a team does. I always believe that every

531
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Speaker 7: quarterback sees the game differently, and the whole goal is

532
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Speaker 7: to find somebody that designs plays or calls plays, that

533
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 7: sees the game the way you see the game. You know,

534
00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 7: like coach, we go back to all the way back

535
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Speaker 7: to Green Bay with the West Coast system, like that

536
00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:59,760
Speaker 7: didn't necessarily fit my skill set, you know, so much

537
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Speaker 7: of that system was kind of based on low to high.

538
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Speaker 7: You know, we're going to take the underneath stuff and

539
00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 7: then we work up. I was a guy that always

540
00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 7: saw the field pop down, Like I always wanted to

541
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,480
Speaker 7: push the envelope and throw the ball down the field

542
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 7: and then work down, you know, to those shorter throws

543
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Speaker 7: and so just a simple example. They are of kind

544
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Speaker 7: of the mentality, you know, when you go from one

545
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:23,920
Speaker 7: place to another. I was also a guy that, you know,

546
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Speaker 7: when I was with Saint Louis, really in my entire career,

547
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,959
Speaker 7: I was an anticipatory guy. I wanted to see it.

548
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 7: I anticipated I got the ball out, you know. I

549
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 7: didn't want a lot of option routes. I didn't want

550
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Speaker 7: a lot of you know, routes where I had to

551
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Speaker 7: sit back and wait for somebody else to make a

552
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Speaker 7: decision and hold the football. When I went to New York,

553
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,439
Speaker 7: they wanted to build a whole system around, you know,

554
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:47,840
Speaker 7: choice route. Hey, this guy can hook or break in

555
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 7: or go deep. And all that did was handcuff me

556
00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,200
Speaker 7: and my great strengths because now I'm holding the football

557
00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,040
Speaker 7: and I'm trying to wait and hoping that somebody sees

558
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,120
Speaker 7: it look like I see it. So, you know, those

559
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,439
Speaker 7: are a couple of different exacs samples of how, you know,

560
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 7: even though there's a lot of plays in every playbook

561
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 7: that look primarily the same, how they're coached, how they're taught,

562
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 7: how it fits to the mentality of the quarterback is

563
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:17,760
Speaker 7: extremely important. And so it has been impressive because you know,

564
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Speaker 7: what Minnesota did, you know, last year, to me is

565
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 7: very different when what Seattle has done this year. You know,

566
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 7: they were more dropped back, throw the ball down the field,

567
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:32,240
Speaker 7: stretched the field as opposed to you know, the play

568
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Speaker 7: action and the run sets and things that Seattle's doing

569
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,520
Speaker 7: this year. So it's been you know, it's been impressive

570
00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 7: to watch Sam you know, go from one system to

571
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Speaker 7: the other. I do believe this Seattle system fits him

572
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 7: even more than than Minnesota did with the great you

573
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Speaker 7: know season he had last year. I believe this kind

574
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:54,439
Speaker 7: of system fits him even better. But it isn't not

575
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,080
Speaker 7: an easy thing to learn a new offense and to

576
00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 7: have an offense that fits your skill sets. That's going

577
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Speaker 7: from one place to another.

578
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, from a coach's perspective, I was fortunate

579
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,879
Speaker 3: enough to come in the league with Joe Montana and

580
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 3: he did everything. He was pretty good, doing things the

581
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Speaker 3: right way. Then then I go to Green Bay and

582
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Speaker 3: I get a young man named Brett Favre, and I'm

583
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 3: trying to teach the same way, and I said, this

584
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 3: isn't working. He's never going to be do that. So

585
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 3: you have to change. And I think, I think, but

586
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 3: the key to a great season is that connection between

587
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Speaker 3: coach and quarterback. In my opinion. Now, listen the last

588
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 3: thing I want to and then I'm kicking it to

589
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:41,400
Speaker 3: these guys. You do it. You know, everyone knows about

590
00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,760
Speaker 3: your football career, and everyone knows about what you're doing

591
00:27:44,800 --> 00:27:48,480
Speaker 3: now in broadcasting, but you're you, You're a lot more

592
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 3: than that. Talk just a little bit about some of

593
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Speaker 3: the things you're doing now.

594
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's so many things that

595
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,359
Speaker 7: you know, we continue to try to do. The amazing thing, Coach,

596
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,000
Speaker 7: is that the NFL gives you some incredible platforms to

597
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,199
Speaker 7: be able to impact people. And so, you know, I

598
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 7: was very fortunate to win the Walter Payton Man of

599
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 7: the Year Award for a lot of the work that

600
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Speaker 7: I did with my kind of what I call my

601
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 7: player foundation, you know, when I was playing, you know,

602
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,360
Speaker 7: different things with single moms and you know, and make

603
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 7: a wish children and different things. So we still do

604
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:26,879
Speaker 7: a number of those different programs. We've also got a

605
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,159
Speaker 7: second foundation now called Treasure House, which is kind of,

606
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 7: you know, our newest passion. And you know, you know,

607
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 7: Coach that my oldest son suffered a traumatic brain injury

608
00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 7: when he was four months old, and so it has

609
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 7: dealt with those struggles his entire life, and so my

610
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 7: wife and I, you know, created a community living facility

611
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Speaker 7: for young adults with intellectual and developmental disabilities. You know,

612
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 7: tier in Arizona. It's completely full, it's thriving, and we're

613
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,640
Speaker 7: looking to expand Treasure Houses and build those across the country.

614
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 7: And so, you know, that's kind of my outside of

615
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:04,719
Speaker 7: football type work, you know, to go along with, as

616
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 7: you said, all the all the other stuff that that

617
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 7: I love doing in the game of football, whether that's

618
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 7: you know, working on the NFL network and doing game

619
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Speaker 7: day morning, whether that's calling games for Westwood One, whether

620
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,600
Speaker 7: that's my own personal training, whether that's I created my

621
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Speaker 7: own coaching and teaching website called Qbconfidential dot com. And

622
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Speaker 7: so I got my hands in a lot of things coach.

623
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Speaker 7: But I consider myself extremely blessed. And you know, this

624
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 7: is what retirement should be me being able to do

625
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 7: the things that I want to do, chase my seven

626
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 7: kids along with all these other things, and do it

627
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 7: all my own time. And the things I do I

628
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 7: love to do, and so it's a it's a beautiful

629
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Speaker 7: life that I live.

630
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Speaker 3: Well. Listen, you're a special guy, not only is a

631
00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,080
Speaker 3: football player as a family guy and the things you

632
00:29:47,120 --> 00:29:50,840
Speaker 3: do in your other endeavors. So thank you so much

633
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 3: for coming on on the program today. It's always good

634
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 3: to talk with you and have a great game on Sunday.

635
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Speaker 7: I appreciate it. Coach, It's always great to talk to

636
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Speaker 7: you you as well.

637
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Speaker 4: Great stuff, man, Kurt Warner with us there on the

638
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Speaker 4: radio show.

639
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 2: One of the all time greats, right, NFL MVP, super

640
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:11,240
Speaker 2: Bowl MVP, all that. So he's doing the game with Harlan.

641
00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 2: You're gonna hear that game on Sunday on our air.

642
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,000
Speaker 2: By the way, three thirty kickoff on Sunday afternoon. All right,

643
00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 2: we got a lot more for you, by the way.

644
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Speaker 2: All right, yeah, you're we're gonna put the cleage lights

645
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Speaker 2: on you. Mike Next on ninety three three KJRFM, our.

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Speaker 4: All right, we're back of the five twenty. Good work

653
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Speaker 4: with Kurt Warner.

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Speaker 3: By the way, thank you.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, when we first hired you, it

656
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Speaker 2: was really nervous about these interviews.

657
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Speaker 4: You're surprising even me.

658
00:30:55,520 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 3: Well, I meant I missed one question I wanted to ask.

659
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Speaker 4: That's okay, Well happen one again?

660
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 2: Uh, well, why don't we ask you the one question

661
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 2: that you wanted to ask him, which is about the

662
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 2: oblique injury. Yeah, okay, so the injury report is out today.

663
00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: Charles Cross, by the way, another did not practice all right,

664
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 2: So all three year left tackles sat out practice.

665
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald did say that he's optimisty correct, But.

666
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:21,560
Speaker 2: How hobbled will he be because he's not practicing. This

667
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,080
Speaker 2: is now the second consecutive day. So again I don't

668
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: think anybody is doubting he's going to be out there, right.

669
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: Question is what kind of condition will he be in

670
00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: for the game on Sundays.

671
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 4: So Sam was limited today.

672
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: You played the position, you coach the position, obleak, how

673
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,720
Speaker 2: much is that concerning you for Sunday?

674
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:41,560
Speaker 3: It's a concern because you know, when you tork the

675
00:31:41,600 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 3: ball and you're throwing the ball, and they particularly when

676
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 3: he goes to his left and he's doing all this

677
00:31:46,600 --> 00:31:49,719
Speaker 3: stuff that has an effect on that part of your body, right,

678
00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:54,040
Speaker 3: And so if they're resting him, you wouldn't normally rest

679
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,840
Speaker 3: your starting quarterback this week. You know, you don't have

680
00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 3: a lot of days to practice, you know, and so

681
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,479
Speaker 3: the fact that he's resting tells me there's more they

682
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 3: are there, you know. And so now I looked up oblique.

683
00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: I wasn't sure what oblique was, and I looked it

684
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: up and started reading about it. And it's usually more

685
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: common in baseball players. Okay, but they can inject that

686
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 3: and eliminate some of the pain. So if they have

687
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 3: to do that, they'll they'll do that.

688
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 5: You asked Kurt about the run game. I want to

689
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 5: ask you about the run game. How would you divide

690
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:37,560
Speaker 5: the carries up? You don't have charbonnaise eight to ten

691
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 5: to eleven carries, so how would you go about making

692
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,959
Speaker 5: sure that the run game was just as successful as

693
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 5: it was with the two bats?

694
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,600
Speaker 3: Well, you know, Dick, I've been kind of a proponent

695
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: of giving Walker more carries, and he's had all season.

696
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 3: If he's not tired, if I don't know what, I

697
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 3: don't know how he in the game. Some guys get

698
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: tired and they need a break. He's not tired. Let him.

699
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,880
Speaker 3: We should be fine. Unless he gets nicked up. Okay,

700
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 3: you worry about that a little bit. But if they

701
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,959
Speaker 3: have another back, you know, I don't know if they

702
00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 3: have the acres or somebody else can come in carrying

703
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,520
Speaker 3: the ball, not as much, not as much. I like

704
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,200
Speaker 3: him in the passing game though, but if they you know,

705
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: if you've given the ball, let him go right right now.

706
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 3: If if that isn't working, if the running game for

707
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 3: some reason there's it shouldn't it shouldn't be there. But

708
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 3: if that's not working, then what what happens is what

709
00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 3: we talked about before the passing game and Sam, that's

710
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 3: got to work.

711
00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 4: Well.

712
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 2: I I wonder I want to talk to Hugh about

713
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 2: this again tomorrow, but I want to get your thoughts

714
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 2: because I want to secretly compare your thoughts to what

715
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,400
Speaker 2: no one says tomorrow on the radio show.

716
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:49,760
Speaker 4: Is it just between us? Now?

717
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: Okay, who do you think has the advantage the third

718
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:56,600
Speaker 2: time around? The quarterback or the defense facing that quarterback?

719
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 2: If Stafford's going to see this defense for the third time,

720
00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:01,600
Speaker 2: Darnold will see that defense for the third time. Who

721
00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:04,600
Speaker 2: has a bigger advantage when it comes to knowing what's

722
00:34:04,680 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 2: coming being more prepared? The quarterback seeing the defense again

723
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 2: or the defense seeing.

724
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:10,240
Speaker 4: The quarterback again.

725
00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,960
Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna say already before asking meow, just.

726
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 4: Tell me the quarterback?

727
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 7: Yeah?

728
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:14,480
Speaker 4: Why?

729
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:14,920
Speaker 3: Yeah?

730
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 7: Why?

731
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 3: Because I'm saying I'm seeing him. They're not going to

732
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 3: change dramatically what they're doing on defense. They're gonna do

733
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 3: what got him there and what got him going last week.

734
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: So I can prepare for that. We know, if we

735
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,040
Speaker 3: can pass protect, if the team can pass protect, we'll

736
00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:38,840
Speaker 3: complete passes. I don't care who's back there, right But

737
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 3: if we can't do that. We played in the New

738
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,560
Speaker 3: York Giants when I was first in the league. Lawrence

739
00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 3: Taylor knows guys, and they pressured up middle and then

740
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 3: crowded the quarterback and made it very hard, very hard.

741
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,319
Speaker 3: Buddy Ryan and the Bears defense because they were you

742
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,000
Speaker 3: didn't see anything like that during the year. Yeah, it

743
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,880
Speaker 3: was totally different, and so so you know, you taught

744
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:06,879
Speaker 3: it differently offensively during the week. You didn't go one, two, three, four, okay.

745
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 3: Used to go okay, throw to the open guy, whoever

746
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: comes open first, throw him, you know, and so you

747
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 3: know it's different. But that's the that's the beauty of it.

748
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 3: That's what fires up your juices, you know, getting prepared

749
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 3: for a good a good team.

750
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 5: Coach, It's ridiculous We've had to wait a decade and

751
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,680
Speaker 5: a half. But your guy John Schneider is finally the

752
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 5: Executive of the.

753
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 4: Year in the NFL.

754
00:35:28,080 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 3: Oh easy, yeah.

755
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,839
Speaker 5: Pro Football Riders just named him today. Oh, good for him. Bad,

756
00:35:33,000 --> 00:35:34,520
Speaker 5: good for him.

757
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,399
Speaker 3: Good for him. Now I feel real bad I yelled

758
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 3: at him all those times.

759
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure he feels terrible. Also. I mean it's

760
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 4: almost a badge of honor.

761
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: Right, there's only a few people on this planet they

762
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: can say they were yelled at by Mike Holmgret and

763
00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 2: I'm one of them.

764
00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:48,719
Speaker 6: Yeah, right, you are one.

765
00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 4: I wear that with honor.

766
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: By the way, all right, I didn't yell at you

767
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,400
Speaker 3: very loud.

768
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 2: Though, oh I would. I would disagree with that. What

769
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 2: do you got planned for Sunday? What are you doing

770
00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:58,800
Speaker 2: at three thirty on Sunday afternoon?

771
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 3: I'm gonna sit down and my couch and with my

772
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 3: pad my hand and chart the game. Okay, uh and

773
00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 3: then tell everyone leave me alone. Yeah, don't bother me.

774
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

775
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 3: Less. Actually, we had a bunch of people in there.

776
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 3: The family came over for the last game, and and

777
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 3: I love it when they do, but there's too many,

778
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: too much activity if I'm going to concentrate on the game, right,

779
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 3: you know.

780
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,759
Speaker 2: You feel good about Sunday, nervous, what's your what's your

781
00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: kind of overall?

782
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,359
Speaker 3: I think they'll win. I think it'll be a heck

783
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,400
Speaker 3: of a game, though, Yeah, I really think. I'm I

784
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,720
Speaker 3: This is exciting, dude. The two best teams are playing

785
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,279
Speaker 3: in the championship game.

786
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 4: Yeah.

787
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,399
Speaker 2: And look, it just seems like for two years these

788
00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:38,799
Speaker 2: guys get together and every game is dynamite, every game

789
00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,080
Speaker 2: comes down to the wire, and they're two and two

790
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 2: and their last four. You see the numbers on point score,

791
00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:47,440
Speaker 2: on yards identical, We're almost identical. Twenty six, twenty overtime

792
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: two years ago, uh thirty twenty five in LA two

793
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 2: years ago. A two point win for the Rams this year,

794
00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 2: a one point win for the Hawks this year.

795
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 4: It's unbelievable.

796
00:36:57,040 --> 00:36:59,080
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't understand. You put the ages

797
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 3: of the two coaches together, right, and they match me.

798
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: That is true, And.

799
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, I'm actually glad you brought that up.

800
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 2: I know we're late here and you gotta run and

801
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,239
Speaker 2: you're too many to commute home. But I do want

802
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 2: to ask you, from a coach's perspective, how much does

803
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 2: the experience of McVeigh matter on Sunday This guy's gonna

804
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 2: turn forty on Saturday. Then he's gonna go coach in

805
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 2: a sixteenth playoff game on Sunday afternoon.

806
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 4: Well McDonald's at what thirty eight years old? Is that right, Dick?

807
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 2: And he's gonna coach his second playoff game on Sunday.

808
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 2: How much does that really matter on game day?

809
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,200
Speaker 3: I think I think the advantage the experience. Mcveay has

810
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 3: an advantage of slight advantage that way, because of the

811
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 3: game that's been because the emotions of the game. The

812
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,880
Speaker 3: game is different, it will be different, Okay, and the

813
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: super Bowl is out there to reach, right.

814
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 4: I love it?

815
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:48,440
Speaker 2: All right, go home, we'll talk next week, all right,

816
00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 2: see Mike Hogan with us on the radio show. We're

817
00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: gonna break Rick new HEISLI and join us at five

818
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,840
Speaker 2: point twenty. Our conversation earlier Dick about what do you

819
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: do from the five yard line? We have numbers on

820
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:02,359
Speaker 2: how many teams score touchdowns all fourth down the Nerd

821
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 2: Machine Breaking Down courtesy of Hugh Millon.

822
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Speaker 4: We'll get to those next on ninety three three kJ

823
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