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Speaker 2: Con common man charge the housewors like goe can?

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Speaker 1: What should word replays to day.

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Speaker 3: To day man?

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Speaker 1: It's time for common man?

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Speaker 3: Why should anybody aspire to be a common man? An

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Speaker 3: average man? Do you realize what it means to be average?

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Speaker 3: That means you're the best of the lousiest and the

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Speaker 3: more for producing less and less, while they have not

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Speaker 3: and maximum effort. If we deify the common man while

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Speaker 3: of such a lopsided race as that is too obvious

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Speaker 1: I'm a fraud, Yes.

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Speaker 4: Ruts of you don't know nothing, you live by the dog,

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Speaker 4: the side by the dog, rock off.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say that common don't put words in my mouth?

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Speaker 2: Rock crank, rock rank rock rank, rock crank. Why you

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Speaker 2: mean you were come pathetic?

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Speaker 5: What we've got here.

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Speaker 6: Is fail if new cake, We're going to South Carolina

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Speaker 6: and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico.

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Speaker 1: We're going to California and Texas and New York, and

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Speaker 6: Oregon and Washington and Michigan and then we're going to Washington,

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Speaker 1: Okay, conc, what do you think about cakes now.

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Speaker 4: Miss Case?

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Speaker 1: But it is the truth. It's like I'll live and

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Speaker 5: He's he's traveling all around the country putting out fire.

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Speaker 5: She's the red Adare ByHeart radio as you know that

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Speaker 5: I've done the rant. Sports, sports, sports, your whole life

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Speaker 5: He already has a doctor for everything, and he's taking

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Speaker 1: I turned it off accidentally. I just learned something today.

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Speaker 5: Because everybody knows the relationship that Rosen and I have

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Speaker 5: Habit is just bitter because he wasn't asked to be

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Speaker 5: Well, jealousy there, Well here he's been leading the fan

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to run into a building for anybody here.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not going to do it. Sorry, But not

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Speaker 5: No, no, Now, I would jump into a raging river

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Speaker 5: Now I don't believe any of them what they're saying,

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Speaker 5: They're just trying to stick up for me. Here's one

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Speaker 1: it's they're going to be showing up a noon tomorrow.

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Speaker 5: It's like, okay, sorry that we're devastating, you know. Well,

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Speaker 5: everything I should talk about today?

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Speaker 1: Just give me a script and I'll just do it.

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Speaker 5: What's the sense of having me here if it's not

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Speaker 5: Then Sweatberg said, that's actually a really good idea. Because

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Speaker 5: that would be a whole hour. It would be a

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Speaker 5: good bit, wouldn't it. She wrote down what the topics

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Speaker 5: I should talk about, probably be Taylor Swift.

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Speaker 1: And then maybe some more Taylor Swift and her future

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Speaker 1: marriage to Travis Kelsey, inter marriage.

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Speaker 6: Can I add one?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Get microphone? Yeah, youth in Asia?

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Speaker 5: I you know me? I really I don't mind weighing

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Speaker 5: It seems like Flores is not the primary choice of

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Speaker 1: I just don't think that would Well, maybe the Vikings

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Speaker 1: also interviewed Washington's for Washington's defensive coordinator position, or at

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Speaker 5: I know Harrison Smith probably won't be a Viking to

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Speaker 5: Four voices are easier to get through a half hour

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Speaker 1: Tennby.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna I'm gonna read you five names and tell

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Speaker 5: me which one you think is most deserving.

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Speaker 1: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Josh Allen quarterback Buffalo Bills, Trevor Football, Fabio Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey, San Francisco forty nine ers, Drake May New

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Speaker 5: England Patriots or Mattie Ice Stafford of the Los Angeles

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Speaker 5: Rings for MVP.

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Speaker 1: Who would you give your vote to if you were

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Speaker 1: one of the voters on the panel, I would go

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford, you would, Yeah, I thought he was. He

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Speaker 1: was consistently good from day one. Yeah, like didn't have

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Speaker 1: a bad stretch. I don't recall him really having a

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Speaker 1: bad game. Yeah, I will. I will tend to agree.

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Speaker 1: You know. Josh Allen is the reigning MVP.

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Speaker 5: His numbers, he threw four just under thirty seven hundred yards,

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Speaker 5: twenty five tutties, ten picks a one oh two point

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Speaker 5: two passer rating while leading Buffalo to its seventh straight

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Speaker 5: playoff appearance.

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Speaker 1: He also ran for fourteen tutties. They were knocked out.

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Speaker 5: Now again, MVP awards I think is strictly based on

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Speaker 5: regular season.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I think it's hard for a voter.

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Speaker 5: Unless all the votes were cast before the playoffs started.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think they were right because we're deep

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Speaker 5: into the playoffs. It's I'm not saying they can't do

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Speaker 5: it and didn't do it, but it's hard if a

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Speaker 5: guy in postseason puts together a couple of brilliant games

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Speaker 5: to not go and he's really good and he is

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Speaker 5: you know, look what he did for them in postseason MVP.

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Speaker 5: He took it from the regular season and continued on.

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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 1: The other guy I guess would be Drake May.

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Speaker 5: I think you could his He threw four just under

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Speaker 5: forty four hundred yards thirty one tuddies eight picks. He

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Speaker 5: led the NFL and passed the rating at one thirteen

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Speaker 5: point five completion percentage.

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Speaker 1: With seventy two percent. I think I might give it

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Speaker 1: to Drake May. I was just thinking, you know, I

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Speaker 1: do wonder how much a player's age gives us any

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Speaker 1: bias or influences the way we view this, Right like

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Speaker 1: if Drake May was in year thirteen fourteen and Matthew

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Speaker 1: Stafford was in year two, we view it differently, right

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Speaker 1: like Drake's They're kind of you could argue either way

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Speaker 1: with Drake May or Matthew Stafford, but Drake May is

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Speaker 1: going to have more kicks at the camp.

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Speaker 5: Well, I agree with you, and I think there's also

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Speaker 5: even not even so much that's that could be one.

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Speaker 1: That could be one scenario scenario that influences your decision.

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Speaker 1: The other would be just oh, Maddy Ice.

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Speaker 5: He's been such a great you know, he suffered for

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Speaker 5: all those years in Detroit, wins a big game. He

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Speaker 5: is really really good. He's that grizzled veteran now and

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Speaker 5: he's never won it before. Matter of fact, did I

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Speaker 5: read that right? I think we talked. I blurted this

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Speaker 5: out last week, and I think it's because I read

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Speaker 5: it somewhere that he's never even finished in the top

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Speaker 5: five in voting for MVP awar So is there that

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Speaker 5: you know, let's give it to the Silver Fox, you know?

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Speaker 1: I mean, and he did have a great ever finished

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Speaker 1: That's what I thought. I mean, I guess like in Detroit,

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Speaker 1: they were never that's it winning enough to be considered.

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Speaker 1: But I would have felt like a previous RAM season.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I have that wrong, but he's, uh, he's

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Speaker 1: never won the award before. So is it one of

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Speaker 1: those where almost like a make good well or what

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Speaker 1: they do in the maybe not even so much of

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Speaker 1: make good, but what they do like uh, you know what,

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Speaker 1: what what do they call that?

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Speaker 5: Like when they give somebody like an Oscar lifetime achievement, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: lifetime Achievement award almost like you know what you know,

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Speaker 5: see you see what I'm saying, I mean, you could

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Speaker 5: do that because there is that little bit of the.

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Speaker 1: What's the other word I'm looking for?

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Speaker 5: You know, you like the guy, right, It's almost kind

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Speaker 5: of one of those Ah, you know, let's go ahead

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Speaker 5: and give it. He's a great all round guy. Gosh

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Speaker 5: o g You know, Wally, You're the best brother a

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Speaker 5: guy could ever have.

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Speaker 1: That kind of thing. Uh, I'm gonna read your five names.

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Speaker 1: Can you tell me.

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Speaker 5: Who you would selectp Liam Cohen head coach Jacksonville Jaguars,

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Speaker 5: Ben Johnson, head coach Chicago Bears, Mike I Keep forgetting McDonald,

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Speaker 5: Seattle Seahawks head coach, forty nine ers, Kyle Shanahan, and

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Speaker 5: the twenty twenty one ap NFL Coach of the Year,

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Speaker 5: Mike Rabel.

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Speaker 1: That's tough. It is tough. You can make an argument

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Speaker 1: for all five. Yes, you could. With how dominant Seattle's

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Speaker 1: I mean, Seattle was a kind of like a middle

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Speaker 1: of the road team last year and McDonald's first year

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Speaker 1: head coaches he not I believe he is, so to

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Speaker 1: turn that thing around and just have an elite defense

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Speaker 1: and get another good year out of Sam Donald. I'd

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Speaker 1: probably put Shanahan last here just based off of where

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Speaker 1: they landed the standings, but it's with the injuries he

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Speaker 1: had to deal with, it's pretty hard hard to argue

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Speaker 1: at the job he did. Nick Bosa, Fred Warner out

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Speaker 1: for the season, and many other.

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Speaker 5: Non offense they were yeah, right, none, But I mean

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Speaker 5: when you lose Bo's and warn those are two of

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Speaker 5: the best, two of the best defensive players in the game,

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Speaker 5: and they were gone for the entire season.

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Speaker 1: Warner didn't play a snap. I don't think Cohen and

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Speaker 1: what he did to Jacksonville. And then it was Rabel

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Speaker 1: and who else? Ben Johnson? Ben Johnson, Hmmm, I'd probably

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Speaker 1: go with Rabel. Okay, Like I said, you can make

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Speaker 1: an argument for any of these, and I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't have a strong opinion on other than you know,

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Speaker 1: Rabel took over a pretty bad situation in New England.

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Speaker 5: Well that he did a worse to first. Yeah, a

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Speaker 5: team that was a ten game turnaround. That's that's that's

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Speaker 5: an astonished It's not like, oh, you improved by four

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Speaker 5: or five games, six seven games, that's ten ten games better.

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Speaker 1: I would, I would.

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Speaker 5: You know, you're right, it's a hard one because you

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Speaker 5: look at the Jaguars. That's a that's a nine win turnaround.

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Speaker 1: On a team that.

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Speaker 5: I'll be honest with you, Timnaby, I'm not paying a

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Speaker 5: close attention to the NFL or the Jacksonville Jaguars as

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Speaker 5: I once did. But I really didn't even know how

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Speaker 5: good they were until it was like the last week

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Speaker 5: of the season went Really, they're twelve and four. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I had no idea because you just.

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Speaker 1: They had a really good win against the Chiefs earlier

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Speaker 1: in the year, and then even Ben Johnson, I know

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Speaker 1: from a wins losses I got the turnaround is probably

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Speaker 1: not as great for them as some of these others,

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Speaker 1: but that was a team that was forecasting to take

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Speaker 1: last by many people in their division, and they ended

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Speaker 1: up taking first and having the second seed. Caleb Williams

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Speaker 1: looks like an ascending star in the league, so you

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Speaker 1: clearly got more out of you know, just what they

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Speaker 1: put around him with the offensive line, they fixed, some

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Speaker 1: of the weapons got around Caleb. I mean, Ben Johnson

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Speaker 1: did a pretty darnk good job. I think I would

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Speaker 1: give me and you saw what Detroit did without Ben Jamonson,

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Speaker 1: what to take away from him? I would I would give.

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Speaker 5: It to McDonald And I'll tell you why, because he

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Speaker 5: was he was had the unfortunate a situation of having

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Speaker 5: Sam Darnold as this quarter because you know, you remember

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Speaker 5: what happened against Detroit, what happened against the Rams.

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Speaker 1: He saw a ghosts. He was terrible. I mean, can't

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Speaker 1: can't come through in the clutch. So you can't come

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Speaker 1: through in the clutch, You just can't. And why would

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Speaker 1: you know?

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Speaker 5: That's I mean, I mean the Vikings passed on him.

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Speaker 5: They said, you know, hey, we love what you did

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Speaker 5: for us, but we've done that before. We did that

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Speaker 5: with case Keenan once too, We've done before. Well that, Hey,

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Speaker 5: thanks for your your service. We appreciate everything you've done,

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Speaker 5: but we're.

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Speaker 1: We're moving on. So I think i'd give it to McDonald's.

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Speaker 5: Because not only did you turn the team around, but

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Speaker 5: he did it with a quarterback that's just seeing ghosts.

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Speaker 1: He's just not very good. So I'd give it to him.

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Speaker 1: Assistant to the year, assistant coach, assist ordinators.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it says assistant, yeah, yeah, and they all are

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Speaker 5: coordinators because it doesn't say like there's no offensive line

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Speaker 5: coach in there, but it would be Vic Fangio he's

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Speaker 5: the Eagles defensive coordinator Flores, Broncos defensive coordinator Vans Joseph

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Speaker 5: Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 1: There are so many Kubiaks in the world. Well work

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Speaker 1: for us?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, when his dad was here? Yeah, I think there are.

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Speaker 5: I think there are two Kubiaks coaching right now. The

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Speaker 5: dad's done, Gary's done. But I think there's a Clinton not.

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Speaker 1: Our offensive coordinator for a short amount of time and

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Speaker 1: then you get just panned. He may have, he may

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Speaker 1: have been, but I don't. I thought he was, or

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Speaker 1: at least he was like a quarterbacks coach or something.

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Speaker 5: And then Patriots offensive coordinator Josh Daniels, joshsh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, McDaniel, Sorry, McDaniels, Who do you like there? So

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Speaker 1: Clint was the Vikings offensive quality control and assistant wide

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Speaker 1: receivers coach quality control under Bills Musgrave and North Turner.

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Speaker 1: What is quality control? But then he had a second

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Speaker 1: centire In twenty nineteen, he was hired by the Vikings

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Speaker 1: as their quarterbacks coach under offensive cordninator Kevin Stefanski. On

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Speaker 1: February twenty twenty one, Kubiak was promoted offensive coordinator, replacing

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Speaker 1: his father, Gary Kubiak, following his retirement. I knew he

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Speaker 1: took it, yeah, and I didn't think it went very

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Speaker 1: well for him. What's a quality coordinator? We could use

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Speaker 1: one here at the fan? What do you think?

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Speaker 5: So?

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Speaker 1: I think the quality here is lacking. Who do you

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Speaker 1: like there? So we're Seattle's defensive coordinator? Are they just

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Speaker 1: not giving him credit because the head coach is the

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Speaker 1: defensive line. Yes, that's yeah, he's not. You're right, he's

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Speaker 1: not in there.

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Speaker 5: He has Fangio Flores, Broncos defensive coordinator Vans, Joseph Clint Kubiak,

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Speaker 5: and then Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately for Flores, he won't win it, and it has

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Speaker 1: nothing to do with him. It has. It hasn't because j. J.

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Speaker 1: McCarthy and the offense can go in in the season,

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Speaker 1: the team doesn't have as good of a season, and

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Speaker 1: that's going to be a knock aga him, even though

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Speaker 1: he had nothing to do with that. Right, It's kind

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Speaker 1: of like in Major League Baseball when we award gold

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Speaker 1: gloves to players for how good they are defensively, Right,

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Speaker 1: But if you don't have a bat, you're never nominated

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Speaker 1: for any of these things. Yeah, it's not strictly off

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Speaker 1: of your defensive play. There's other factors that go into it,

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Speaker 1: which is kind of weird and it's difficult. I think.

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Speaker 5: It's like in the history of the Big Game. I

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Speaker 5: think I think it's only one, but it might be two.

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Speaker 5: The MVP has coming from the losing team because.

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Speaker 1: It's just what you lost.

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Speaker 5: Just by definition, how could you be the MVP of

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Speaker 5: the game. And so when you look at floors and say, now, again,

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Speaker 5: the Vikings didn't have a losing record, they were nine

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Speaker 5: to eight, and so you kind of go, well, you

655
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Speaker 5: didn't make the postseason, you know, and like you said,

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Speaker 5: no fault of his because the offense was so bad.

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Speaker 1: But then you almost become an afterthought. Well, yeah, sure

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Speaker 1: he did a nice job over there. I mean, but

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Speaker 1: that could be your argument, how did they get nine

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Speaker 1: wins out of it? So he won't win, right, I

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Speaker 1: don't think the Seahawks offensive coordinator will win. That's what

662
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Speaker 1: I got in I left. I got Vance Joseph in Denver.

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Speaker 1: I got Josh McDaniels in New England and Fangio and

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Speaker 1: with the Eagles, so I don't think he'll get her.

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Speaker 1: I guess we should be Josh McDaniels. Yeah. You know,

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Speaker 1: even with whatever you think of Drake May, that offense

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Speaker 1: last year was pretty bad around him. And it's not

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Speaker 1: like they made major upgrades in terms of personnel. They

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Speaker 1: added Trey bon Henderson in the draft and he was

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Speaker 1: kind of a rotational running back. They did go get

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Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs, but at the stage of his career, he

672
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Speaker 1: is what he did. Like, It's not like it's not

673
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Speaker 1: like they were moving the ball with big time, well

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Speaker 1: known offensive weapons. So I think i'd go to Josh McDaniels.

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Speaker 1: I think I would go with Seahawks offensive coordinator Clint Kubiak.

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Speaker 5: And you know why, when you're saddled with a quarterback's

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Speaker 5: back out of Sam Samon Darnell.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Vikings didn't want him anymore. He was

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Speaker 1: he was he was. He was awful and with the

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Speaker 1: Jets and awful with where where else did he play it?

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Speaker 1: Carolina and then San Franiz.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean he was just awful, you know, to

683
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Speaker 5: be able to get that kind of an offensive production

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Speaker 5: out of out of that team with that quarterback, I

685
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Speaker 5: would think I would give it to Clint Kobiak.

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Speaker 1: Got a heck of a season of Jackson Smith and Jigba.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he did well. That was That's the only reason

688
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 5: is that that Sam's any good, has any decent numbers

689
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Speaker 5: at all. Comeback Player of the Year Tennaby, Trevor, Lawrence, McCaffrey,

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Speaker 5: Stefan Diggs with the Patriots have a great year.

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Speaker 1: Yes, Aiden Hutchinson and Dak Prescott m are your finalists.

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Speaker 5: McCaffrey, Lawrence, Diggs, hutch In Prescott did Lawrence?

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Speaker 1: Is Lawrence just coming back from for play or I

694
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 1: don't remember him having you know, like a significant injury

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Speaker 1: or anything like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah. Well, and again, I don't even know the definition

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Speaker 5: of comeback Player of the Year anymore.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it is. It's not necessarily bounce back.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's it can be. I think it can be

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Speaker 5: injury or just a bounce back year. Matter of fact,

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Speaker 5: if it would, that be the only reason. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I know Hutchinson had some really good I don't remember

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Speaker 5: how many sacks he had, but I think he also

704
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Speaker 5: had a lot of those pressures he gets double team,

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Speaker 5: so I think he was effective. But then again, that's

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Speaker 5: a team that didn't make postseason play. They finished nine

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Speaker 5: or eight Prescott and the other thing. And the other

708
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Speaker 5: thing with Hutchinson is, you know, is that the injury

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Speaker 5: it are they looking at? Because remember he missed when

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Speaker 5: did he get hurt last year? Was it like Week seven?

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Speaker 5: Wasn't that last year Week seven and he didn't play

712
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Speaker 5: the rest of the season? Or was that two years ago?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 5: So you know, maybe sometimes it is injury based in

715
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Speaker 5: the eyes of some voters and others. Is just well,

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Speaker 5: he didn't play very well for a year or two

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Speaker 5: and then all of a sudden he turned things around

718
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Speaker 5: and he started playing like he's capable of.

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Speaker 1: I guess I've got McCaffrey or Prescott. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: know if there's an obvious choice here Defensive player of

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Speaker 1: the Year. It's got my Miles Garrett, isn't it? Will Anderson? Wow,

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Speaker 1: it's pretty good. All Pro edge rusher he had twelve sacks.

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Speaker 5: Broncos edge rusher Nick Benito he had fourteen sacks for

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Speaker 5: the league's second ranked defense.

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Speaker 1: I guess Hutchinson had more sacks than I thought. He

726
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Speaker 1: had fourteen and a half for the Kiddies.

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Speaker 5: Michael Parsons had twelve and a half and thirteen and

728
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Speaker 5: a half games before he tore his ACL and if

729
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Speaker 5: you look at what that team did after he left,

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Speaker 5: it was when he was with him, it looked like they.

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Speaker 1: Were they might be the team. He's a game changer. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: And then Miles Garrett unanimous choice for All Pro single

733
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Speaker 5: season sack record. Yeah Garrett, thirty three tackles were lost.

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Speaker 1: He was the twenty twenty. Yeah, he got to right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think there's a choice here. Your offensive play

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Speaker 1: Year of the Year at tennabe, which I always find

737
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Speaker 1: funny because in some of the names are different than

738
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Speaker 1: offensive player than like someone could be nominated for MVP,

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Speaker 1: but than not being the offensive player. Uh Pooka Nakua.

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Speaker 1: He's good, b John Robinson, Jackson Smith, Njigba, uh May

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Speaker 1: and McCaffrey Man Jackson Smith and Jigba was really really

742
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Speaker 1: good for a long time now. Maybe the last couple

743
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Speaker 1: of weeks he might have tailed off a bit. Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey was good the entire time. Drake May were the

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Speaker 1: other two. Pookah Pookah.

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Speaker 5: He led the NFL with one hundred and twenty nine

747
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Speaker 5: catches for seventeen hundred and fifteen yards and ten Tuddies

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Speaker 5: Smith Njigba caught ten less passes, but he led the

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Speaker 5: league with seventeen hundred and ninety three yards. That's only

750
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Speaker 5: a handful more than Nikua. He had ten tds the same,

751
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Speaker 5: So we're going strictly on numbers. Nikua had a slightly

752
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Speaker 5: better year then, but he had Matt Stafford throwing to him,

753
00:41:02,600 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 5: not the the the the awful.

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Speaker 1: Sam Donald was basically just like throwing with his left hand.

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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, So.

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Speaker 5: I mean I think you almost have to give it

757
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Speaker 5: to THEI to be able to post those kind of

758
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Speaker 5: numbers when you have someone like Sam Donald thrown to you,

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Speaker 5: I give it to.

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Speaker 1: I think like through week twelve, you would taken Jigbo

761
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Speaker 1: over Puka, but Puka kind of caught him at the

762
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Speaker 1: end there. Puka was rolling and then McCaffrey. I mean,

763
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Speaker 1: they're all they all believe it. I give it to

764
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Speaker 1: the jig But because of the the Donald factors.

765
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Speaker 5: So I have three guys getting awards because of because

766
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Speaker 5: of because they're being handcuffed. They're being handcuffed by a

767
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Speaker 5: quarterback that's just not very good. A Defensive Rookie of

768
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Speaker 5: the Year uh Abduall Carter Giants ed rusher, Seahawks defensive

769
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Speaker 5: back Nick em and Worry, Falcon's ed rusher James Pierce,

770
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Speaker 5: Junior Brown's linebacker Carson Schwezinger, and Falcons safety Xavier Watts.

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Speaker 1: I don't think I can break those.

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Speaker 5: I can't break down back and I can't break down

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Speaker 5: the offensive ones though. The offensive ones, Oh you can't, yeah,

774
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Speaker 5: Jackson Dart, Yeah, Amika Uh, Travion Henderson, I can't. How

775
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Speaker 5: do you pronounce the McMillan.

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Speaker 1: McMillan say that again, Ted roa McMillan, ro McMillian and

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Speaker 1: then Tyler the quarterback? Is it? It's especially like shuck shuck, yeah,

778
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,960
Speaker 1: which is what good? Uh not?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,320
Speaker 1: He had some moments towards the end of the season,

781
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Speaker 1: there wasn't like a standout rookie offensive performance. I don't

782
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Speaker 1: think he can go shuck. I don't think he can go.

783
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Speaker 1: Trevion Buka through half the season probably would have been

784
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: the guy, but he he tailed off at the end.

785
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,320
Speaker 1: He had some injury stuff going on. Then when he

786
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: came back, he was never the same. Who are the

787
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: other two? Because I was gonna give it to one

788
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Speaker 1: of the other two. Dart and Uh Trey Beon Henderson,

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Speaker 1: T McMillan. Oh yeah, Now I don't have the numbers

790
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: in front of you, but I'm assuming tedor McMillan kind

791
00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: of had like the best stats, the best numbers, I'd

792
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: go tetro. So there you go. And if and Jackson

793
00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: Dart through his first couple of games, looked like, oh,

794
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:15,800
Speaker 1: here's going to be a Rookie of the Year. And

795
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 1: he got hurt because he was because he doesn't know

796
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: how to run out of bounds and you know, it

797
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 1: was something against the biking starts the end of season.

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Speaker 1: I thought he was not very good at the end

799
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Speaker 1: of the year.

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Speaker 5: And I'm going to throw something else into the I'm

801
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:35,479
Speaker 5: gonna throw one other thing into this. Tennebe Yeah, postseason MVP.

802
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 5: Jared Stidham, That's what I'm going with. You wait and see.

803
00:43:43,360 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: You say Nick Foles. I think Jared's can. I think

804
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham can be the next to Nick Foles. So

805
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: there you go. So and the awards will be.

806
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 5: They're announced on the Thursday before the big game, I think,

807
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 5: right NFL Honors is they do that then there to go.

808
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,720
Speaker 1: So, yeah, those are the major The names were released

809
00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 1: yesterday and there you have it. Let's pause when we

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Speaker 1: come back.

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Speaker 5: Tennebe he's got some We got five three fours against

812
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Speaker 5: Tennabe as a he's.

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Speaker 1: Got a tease for us. Hey, you just talked about

814
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford. Should Stafford be in the Brady Manning conversation