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Speaker 1: What is the average age of a couple that swings? Wait,

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Speaker 2: Okay, you want a range or just a number single

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean no not because whatever number you give me,

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Speaker 1: all right, So Kristin, do you have your number you

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Speaker 1: want to turn yourself on?

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Speaker 3: I see ready on three.

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Speaker 1: One, I'm gonna say three and then say the number one, two, three.

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Speaker 3: Forty seventy nine.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kristen, Kristen, are you just trying to make a

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Speaker 4: I feel like they're a little older.

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Speaker 1: You think the average age of a swinger is sixty

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Speaker 2: You explained it to us, Elliott, that could be sixty five,

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Speaker 1: The okay, seventy three. I'll even give you sixty five

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Speaker 2: I feel like when you get older, you're just like

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Speaker 1: What she said was yolo, and it sounded like yellow yolo, right, like,

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Speaker 3: No yolo, Diane, I'm sorry. What did you say said

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Speaker 2: So mid to upper forties. So both of you live

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Speaker 1: If I ask for a swinger to call me right now,

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Speaker 3: Please?

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Speaker 2: No, No, it's you're soliciting for one right now.

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Speaker 1: I would like to talk to a swinger, please, eight

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Speaker 1: six six to Elliott eight six six two three five

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Speaker 2: This may be somebody that wolf who's trying to buck

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Speaker 3: No, no, I don't care. I don't care how old

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Speaker 2: It's just the first swinger to call.

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Speaker 3: I just need I just need to swing.

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Speaker 2: Younger is gonna be faster, especially with Crystal singers if

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Speaker 4: Yellow is this Elliott?

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Speaker 1: No, I just I just want to talk to a swinger.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk to somebody who's part of the lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Please eight six six to Elliott eight six six two

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Speaker 3: I will say this. I gave myself the same test.

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Speaker 2: What did you say?

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Speaker 3: Same thing? Yeah, same thing. I love.

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Speaker 3: Like, eh, let me like too old.

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Speaker 2: No, no, not too old. But I just I wanted

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I didn't. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Good morning?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Are you? Are you part of the lifestyle?

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Speaker 5: I am part of the LS lifestyle.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I'm sorry, I'm part of the what.

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Speaker 3: Oh, you're part of the LS, right, I got it?

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Speaker 3: I got it?

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Speaker 1: Can I can I ask you a question? And I

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Speaker 1: How how old? How old are you?

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Speaker 5: I'm forty six?

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Speaker 3: Forty six? Okay? Well, okay, Diane just pointed at me.

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Speaker 3: Diane just pointed out, be like nail this.

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Speaker 2: Now, let me ask you this.

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Speaker 3: You are you're forty six years old. You're a swinger.

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Speaker 1: How long have you been part of the LSU ten years?

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Speaker 3: Okay? So you started in your thirties? When you when

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Speaker 1: Right. And I don't know if you and your you

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Speaker 1: and your partner have like regulars or if you're open

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Speaker 1: True or false. Swinging is shifting to be a younger

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Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, but still older women.

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Speaker 3: No, no, no no.

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Speaker 1: When I say younger man, I don't mean like the

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Speaker 3: It's the swinging, the swinging lifestyle.

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Speaker 1: Like again, you would think you're in your forties, you're

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Speaker 1: Everything's good or whatever they said. Swinging totally a young

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Speaker 4: She seemed to perturbable.

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Speaker 5: I would say I'm a member of a club. I'm

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Speaker 5: average age is probably thirties, early thirties to about sixties.

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Speaker 3: She said, sixty is your club? Yeah? So is it a?

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Speaker 3: Is it a I don't want to call it.

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Speaker 1: A sex club, but you know what I mean, it's

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Speaker 1: like a it's a swingers club. Yes, and and are

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Speaker 1: you singing like I know you said it's early thirties

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Speaker 5: Yes, I would say the majority or in their thirties

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Speaker 3: Isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 1: Why do you know why? I was reading speculation? But

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Speaker 1: Do you guys have a speculation?

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Speaker 5: I would just say that, you know, if you've been

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Speaker 5: ten fifteen years, you are looking to spice it up,

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Speaker 5: change it up. But you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 5: there's a lot of variety in the lifestyle, so everybody

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Speaker 3: No, you're absolutely right, You're absolutely right. All right, very good,

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Speaker 3: Thank you, ma'am, Thank you. Young Man's game. Hi Elliott

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Speaker 3: in the morning. Hello, Hi, who's this?

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Speaker 6: Well we've talked before. Elliott. You would know me as SEXYV.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember SEXYV?

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Speaker 6: That's right?

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Speaker 3: And my vagina.

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Speaker 6: I'm sorry, your partners will Oh my gosh, okay.

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Speaker 2: Who left in the car?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Is that your partner? Yes? Are you guys swingers we are.

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Speaker 2: Are you turned off by the sound of chewing?

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna stop for the swingers.

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Speaker 2: Because you're eating. I'm borried about you because the way

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Speaker 2: nibbling so fast because you wanted to get back to

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Speaker 2: the conversation. But I don't want I don't want this

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, very good? Hey, how how old

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Speaker 1: are how old ma'am sexy? V?

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Speaker 6: Yes?

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Speaker 3: How old are you?

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Speaker 6: I'm fifty three. My husband is fifty one.

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Speaker 3: Agree or disagree?

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Speaker 1: The swinging lifestyle, the swinging community is getting much younger.

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Speaker 6: Agree, yeah, but for the wrong reasons? I think. I

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Speaker 6: don't know. I have gone to many lifestyle events. I

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Speaker 1: Okay, so you started in your twenties, yes, So why

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Speaker 3: But when you were doing it, you were doing it

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Speaker 6: So when you're in it to get pleasure for both people,

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Speaker 6: then that's the right reason. Right, You're in it to

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Speaker 6: I have met couples, I'm not saying all of them.

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Speaker 6: I ask about them, they're either doing it for her

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Speaker 6: tends not to last because if she's not in it

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Speaker 1: They do say okay, so I'm gonna play Devil's Advocate

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Speaker 1: it's turning into a younger man's game. Number one, it's

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Speaker 1: number one, it's less taboo. Number two, it's much more accessible.

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Speaker 1: So there are more Not only are there more clubs,

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Speaker 1: but it is easier if if that's your thing, or

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Speaker 1: whatever it is. Number one, it's it's less taboo. There's

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Speaker 1: I'm being serious. It's easier to find out where these

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Speaker 3: It doesn't mean you're stupid.

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Speaker 6: Right, we started off with just back in the day, Okay,

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Speaker 6: And then you've got guys, girls that are going after

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Speaker 6: we're just new, we're not really into it, we're just

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Speaker 6: out which we have seen people get into arguments, one

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Speaker 3: The last thing I.

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Speaker 1: Want when I'm getting ready to hook up with another

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Speaker 1: I don't want an argument.

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Speaker 3: No, like I want love.

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Speaker 6: Well, i'll give you. I'll give you a funny that

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Speaker 3: So wait a minute, So what happened to your guy?

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Speaker 3: Not your guy? What happened to you? Yeah, you're by yourself.

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Speaker 4: Your husband, he's really by himself.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but like your husband, I was intill. Oh, so

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Speaker 6: you just like you just asked what I was into?

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Speaker 3: You just like to watch your husband hook up with

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Speaker 6: Not at all? I mean I do, that's that's very pleasurable.

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Speaker 6: But I'm into females too, So it's not just like, oh,

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Speaker 6: I need a guy because I need a guy. My

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Speaker 3: So is the can I can I ask you this? Can?

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Speaker 3: I don't? I don't know?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, what did her husband do?

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Speaker 3: Hers?

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Speaker 2: The woman went away to punch her own husband.

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Speaker 3: So whose husband?

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Speaker 1: What?

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Speaker 3: I'm sure he kept playing?

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Speaker 6: He punched her own husband?

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Speaker 2: No, I know? But what he's the person he was

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Speaker 2: fooling around with left him?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Ye, just high and sticky and sticky?

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Speaker 2: Yeah did you jump in? Y?

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Speaker 3: So what did your husband do?

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Speaker 6: There's nothing you can do. It's between a husband and

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Speaker 6: a wife. We can't get in and I know, but

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Speaker 1: Just standing there with a boner looking at these two

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Speaker 3: At each other.

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Speaker 6: Yeah it happened once again. It's because young couples get

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Speaker 6: off at a party is not the way to go, right.

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Speaker 3: Are we finishing the.

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Speaker 4: What's the deal?

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Speaker 3: It's not going to do itself? So can I ask

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Speaker 3: you this?

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Speaker 1: Like you said, I understand that you said, like your

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Speaker 1: your your husband pleasures you just fine.

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Speaker 3: That's great, good for you? Is so what with.

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Speaker 1: All of your swinging are you? Are you guys females only?

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Speaker 2: Uh?

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Speaker 6: There could be exceptions. I just haven't found it yet,

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Speaker 6: but there could be. I mean I'm not closed off

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Speaker 6: I mean it's not like my husband goes no men.

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Speaker 6: I just say I need a lot of connection. And

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Speaker 6: I'm not talking about romance. I'm talking about you know,

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Speaker 6: how you carry yourself, who you are, who it's not

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Speaker 6: just sex. See. That's where a lot of people come

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Speaker 6: in and go, oh, they must be horny. No, it's

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Speaker 6: not about that. It's about making a connection and horny.

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Speaker 3: He's all right. You guys are great. And by the way,

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Speaker 3: high five to your husband.

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Speaker 1: I hear your brother all right, very good, thank you man,

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Speaker 1: Yeah you got it, thank you.

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Speaker 2: Oh now I'm just picturing him.

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Speaker 3: Who the husband?

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, standing there, going and honestly, somebody, somebody finished this.

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Speaker 2: Do you do you hide yourself?

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Speaker 3: Do you sort of hide yourself?

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Speaker 1: Why?

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Speaker 2: Anything? A very vulnerable moment. Yeah, but and it's a

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Speaker 2: it's in a group setting, you know.

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Speaker 1: So you leave with your wife. Yeah, you go, honey,

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Speaker 1: let's get at it here. I mean these two were punching.

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Speaker 2: Was able to put his pants on you?

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Speaker 1: I mean two seconds ago I had I had a

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Speaker 1: fist full.

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Speaker 3: And now I'm just standing her.

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Speaker 2: My god, I don't know if we've ever in all

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Speaker 2: of our swinging discussions.

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Speaker 3: That's uncomfortable. That's uncomfortable. Hi, Elliot the morning. Hello, Yeah, Hi,

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Speaker 3: who's this?

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Speaker 1: Hi?

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Speaker 3: Hi Chrissy? Are you are you a swinger?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 7: I am not, but I used to work at leisure

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Speaker 7: World in Montgomery County, and I worked in the high

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Speaker 7: rise and they would have their parties in the party

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Speaker 7: room there for like you know, baby showers and stuff

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Speaker 7: like that.

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Speaker 5: But no, they would have.

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Speaker 7: Those, and they believe lots of souvenirs to be cleaned

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Speaker 7: up afterwards. They were the horniest bunch of people I've

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Speaker 3: Wow, I used to live right by that leisure world.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, but you know what, good on them, Good

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Speaker 3: on them. They're getting after it. That's okay, that's all right.

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Speaker 7: And they were always hitting on anybody, Like the men

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Speaker 7: would just always hit on everybody. You couldn't bend over

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Speaker 7: with your rear end showing to anybody anything but the wall.

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Speaker 2: Don't laugh at that, elliot.

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Speaker 1: All right, very good, very good. It says everybody thinks

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Speaker 1: swinging his canted to old couples who were doing it

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Speaker 1: in the nineteen seventies. However, swing hub reports a sharp

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Speaker 3: The past year.

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Speaker 1: Swing hub reinvigorating strengthening long term relationships is what has

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Speaker 3: Sex parties are much more available.

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Speaker 1: They also said people are much more experimental, or it's

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Speaker 1: till you were in your fifties to go, hey, we've

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Speaker 1: Like they're saying, now, people are much more comfortable broaching

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Speaker 1: the hey, so we're together. I love you, you're my partner,

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Speaker 1: I'm your partner, but like, let's go play. But it's

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Speaker 1: just not And I guess maybe that goes back to

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Speaker 1: the taboo or lack of a fear of like, what's

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Speaker 2: Wow, I would still fear that I don't care what's

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Speaker 2: going on environmentally.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'm with you. That would not be that.

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Speaker 1: That would not be a conversation that would go over

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Speaker 1: well in my house now, not even a funny joke now,

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, I think even when I joked about it,

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Speaker 2: Like if I was doing it for content.

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Speaker 1: Oh, like, hey, Lindsey, we're all going swinging this weekend.

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Speaker 3: We have to go It's.

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Speaker 2: Like when all the wrestlers fake kick out of a

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Speaker 2: three count and and then they showed him the time

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Speaker 2: but had screenshot two point nine to nine, so they

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Speaker 3: Right exactly, this is it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, then they were. The Miz was pissed. Lindsay would

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Speaker 2: be pissed, even as a joke for social media.