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Speaker 1: Kick It, Cake It Come on, puts you one time

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Speaker 2: Listen on your free iHeartRadio app for all your music

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Speaker 3: Well, well, well, a story broke late during yesterday's show

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Speaker 3: about this member of Pittsburgh City Council.

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Speaker 4: Her name is Teresa Kale Smith.

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Speaker 3: She wants a discussion with Bob Nutting about him trying.

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Speaker 4: Harder to win.

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Speaker 3: That's a discussion that probably ought to be had, even

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Speaker 3: though it won't do no good. Just for appearances, this

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Speaker 3: is a pr stunt by ms Cale Smith. But the

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Speaker 3: city paid three quarters of a billion toward panc Park

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Speaker 3: and the pirates pay a base rent of only one

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Speaker 3: hundred k per year. So yeah, for sure, Bob Nutting

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Speaker 3: the owner, he's robbing the city.

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Speaker 4: But what would discussion do.

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Speaker 3: Like Bob Nutting is going to say, oh g sorry,

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna double payroll. The city can't make Bob Nutting

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Speaker 3: do anything except not reloting the least in twenty thirty

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Speaker 3: and then Nutting moves the team to Nashville or wherever.

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Speaker 3: He's not a Pittsburgh resident, he's not connected to the community.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't care where his ATM's located, and if the

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Speaker 3: pirates left. Then all them businesses on the North Shore

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Speaker 3: go bust and the city loses a lot of jobs

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Speaker 3: and a lot of revenue. You can dream about making

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Speaker 3: Nutting fix it, the city forcing him, MLB forcing him,

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Speaker 3: But he has one hundred of the leverage, every single

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Speaker 3: bit of leverage. If you can cite any leverage at

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Speaker 3: all that the city, MLB, anybody has against Nutting, I'd

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Speaker 3: love to hear it. Tom's off today, So call now

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Speaker 3: eight three three four one two w xdx. That's eight one,

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Speaker 3: eight three three. I'm never gonna say that number totally right,

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Speaker 4: Again. I think this is a PR stunt by ms

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Speaker 4: Kale smith.

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Speaker 3: Hey, we talked to him, We tried, but the city County.

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Speaker 4: S E eight MLB. They can't do nothing.

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Speaker 3: Like I said yesterday, and I wish you would understand

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Speaker 3: this Nutting and the way he runs the team is

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Speaker 3: only a problem to Bucco fans and Bucco players who

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Speaker 3: are good and want to win.

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Speaker 4: Nobody else sees a problem. I'm Mark Madden.

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Speaker 1: So far.

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Speaker 4: That number again, eight three three four one two nine thirty.

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Speaker 3: Nine MLB playoffs continued last night three climactic game threes.

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Speaker 3: In the wild Card round, Detroit knocked dot Cleveland. That

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Speaker 3: was in the afternoon, so we get to see Scoobale

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Speaker 4: That's fun.

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Speaker 3: And Cleveland's still once since nineteen forty eight, that is

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Speaker 3: also fun. Chicago eliminated San Diego three to one. There

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Speaker 3: was a really bad call on a full count that

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Speaker 3: killed San Diego in the ninth struck out, a battle

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Speaker 3: that should have walked would have led to basis full

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Speaker 4: San Diego had.

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Speaker 3: Two on one out but couldn't maximize on Xboco. Starting

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Speaker 3: for the Cubs, he was very good. Four shotout innings

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Speaker 3: to hit, no walks. The New York Yankees eliminated the

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Speaker 3: Boston Red Sox four nil. Some rookie from Boston, a

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Speaker 3: Boston resident, Walpole. He pitched for the Yankees. Schulitzler's his name,

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Speaker 3: which is a name I don't care to try to

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Speaker 4: Schlitzer.

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Speaker 3: Eight shot at innings, twelve strikeouts. Your guy from Boston

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Speaker 3: eliminates the Red Sox. Pock that ca in Hovid Square. Uh,

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Speaker 3: the Pirates thing I talked about. It's not ever gonna change,

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Speaker 3: you know, it.

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Speaker 4: I know it. They certainly know it.

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Speaker 3: They're wasting Schmes, wasting the best pitcher in baseball.

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Speaker 4: What don't you get.

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Speaker 3: You hear all this fantasy you talk about signing free

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Speaker 3: agents like some dunts. On another show yesterday, Eugenio Suadez

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Speaker 3: or trade for Jazz Chisholm from the Yankees. Right, Suarez

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Speaker 3: would really love to leave a division champ in Seattle

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Speaker 3: after having had a career year with forty somewhat home runs,

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Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. Jazz Chisholm, he's in his last year arbitration

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Speaker 3: next year. It just love to come to Pittsburgh. Here's

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Speaker 3: what's gonna happen. Mitch Keller gets traded. That's the Pirates

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Speaker 3: big move. The return will be a bat that's not

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Speaker 3: good enough because you're not trading Skiens or Chandler. You're

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Speaker 3: trading Keller. Skeens or Chandler would bring legitimate offense back.

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Speaker 4: Keller won. He'll bring back a bat that's the rough

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Speaker 3: And that's it. That's the big move. That'll be all

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Speaker 3: know their intent, but just a reminder. And you're gonna

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Speaker 3: hate this, but it's true. It's damn true. If the

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Speaker 3: Pirates bring back Andrew McCutcheon, it's for nostalgia. They're selling

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Speaker 3: nostalgia still and again, and it's business as usual and

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Speaker 3: not serious about winning. And I will say what y'all say.

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Speaker 3: Say you trade Keller like you guys talk about all

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Speaker 3: the time, you bucko Marx. You still got a rotation

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Speaker 3: from Tommy John. There's a playoff rotation in there somewhere,

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Speaker 3: but they won't get the bats they need. And you

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Speaker 3: can't rush Connor Griffin. They had a playoff rotation.

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Speaker 4: This year.

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Speaker 3: And lost ninety one games. How are they gonna do

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Speaker 3: any better next year? Still having a playoff rotation? Boy,

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Speaker 3: We've been talking a lot of Buckos because of this

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Speaker 3: silliness with the city console woman. Oh, great football game

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Speaker 3: last night, San Francisco with a ton of guys on

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Speaker 4: They beat La in overtime. La went for it on

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones deputizing for brock Party at quarterback for San Francisco,

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Speaker 3: and he played so well that people are wondering if

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Speaker 3: maybe he should keep the quarterback job when brock Party

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Speaker 4: I don't think so, But Shanahan does that a lot.

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Speaker 3: The starter gets injured, he's out, the sub does well,

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Speaker 4: So that's a big win for San France because that

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Speaker 3: Like I said, four one two ninety nine, thirty nine

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Speaker 3: is the number to call. Getting back to baseball for

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Speaker 3: our buddy Mike the Corsi, who nailed it when he

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Speaker 3: set it's been ten years since an MLBT from outside

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Speaker 3: the top fifteen markets won the World Series. The only

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Speaker 3: chance now is the Brewers. The NFL has had thirteen

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Speaker 3: such champions in this century, NBA, NHL, MLS all have

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Speaker 3: had ten plus MLB three. But please carry on about

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Speaker 3: Baseball's great competitive balance. Baseball doesn't have competitive balance, but

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Speaker 3: they managed to figure out how to create the illusion

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Speaker 3: of competitive balance by getting more teams in the playoffs,

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Speaker 3: because anybody can make the playoffs, but the big markets

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Speaker 3: Shador Sanders yesterday. Bruce Arians, the former Steelers offensive coordinator

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Speaker 3: and very successful head coach, won a Super Bowl in Tampa.

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Speaker 3: He was on some show and BA said what I said.

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Speaker 3: We got that sound later, but in a nutshell, why

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Speaker 3: is the third string quarterback doing interviews?

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Speaker 4: Unquote?

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Speaker 3: NBA is right, there's just no upside to Chador doing media.

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Speaker 3: It does Chador zero good and the Browns zero good.

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Speaker 3: Big story for Steeler fans this weekend, the bye week,

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Speaker 3: You got to get up early again on Sunday and

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Speaker 3: see how Dylan Gabriel plays for Cleveland against Minnesota at

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Speaker 3: you got Miles Garrett against TJ. Watt, even though they're

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Speaker 3: We got some realistic, interesting sound up from Eddie Olcik

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Speaker 3: about Connor McDavid's contract expiring this year at Edmonton end

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Speaker 3: of the season, and I got a great idea what

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Speaker 3: We got Penguins rookie forward Avery Hayes joins us the

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Speaker 3: pre fifteen lot A Penguin guests on up between now

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Speaker 3: in the middle of next week. Tim Ben joins me

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Speaker 3: at three thirty, Charlie Batch on at four o'clock, Mister

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Speaker 3: Friday Afternoon, who sucks Again at four thirty, and our

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Speaker 4: It's the Mark Madden Show on one oh five nine.

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Speaker 5: Headed the PPG Paints Arena, make your event day the

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Speaker 5: action Marriontt Pittsburgh City Center. Your pregame and postgame headquarters.

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Speaker 3: You can create a winning image for your team and

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Speaker 1: Mark Madhoon Free games out on one oh five nine DX.

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Speaker 3: That guitar reminds me Rev Beach playing tonight at Jurgles

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Speaker 3: his local band John Bellin of Gene the wererofe on vocals.

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Speaker 4: Go check it out.

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Speaker 3: If you watch that playoff game between Chicago and San Diego,

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Speaker 3: the call in the ninth that screwed San Diego was unbelievable.

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Speaker 4: Nobody out. Next year, you're gonna be able to appeal.

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Speaker 3: I think it's two calls per game, and you gotta

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Speaker 3: and they're out right away. The Rams got to play

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Speaker 3: two more playoff games in the Pirates. The Pod recently

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Speaker 3: got to play three. Okay, here's Eddie Olcek on the

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Speaker 3: NHL Network talking about Connor McDavid heading into the final

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Speaker 6: I don't think it'll affect him.

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Speaker 3: Okay, most what Edzo said I totally agree with. But

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Speaker 3: McDavid can't play out the deal if he doesn't sign

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Speaker 4: That, because it's so effing obvious. Let's go to Cosmo. Cosmo,

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Speaker 4: Lame brain Bob.

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Speaker 3: Nutting has run an exemplary reorganization in terms of conduct

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Speaker 3: Big day for hockey talk here today on the show,

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Speaker 4: Is this team truly rebuilding? Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I think the fact that they are are, first of all,

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Speaker 4: Really bought him out, like Shark's bottom out.

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Speaker 8: two way defense, mean, he might be the best guy.

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Speaker 4: That they have. He is period, yeah right now at

440
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Speaker 4: nineteen years old, yeah right now. So to me, you

441
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Speaker 4: play that guy.

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Speaker 3: I mean I think if you know, I think so too,

443
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Speaker 3: especially because returning him to juniors will do no good

444
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Speaker 3: because he's out grown that level.

445
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Speaker 4: Nothing. He'll get nothing out of that. And and I mean,

446
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Speaker 4: I don't know that the details on.

447
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Speaker 8: I know they were talking about an exemption for one

448
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Speaker 8: teenager you could send to the AHL, So I mean,

449
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Speaker 8: you know that's something to keep an eye on down

450
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Speaker 8: the road, but for now, he should just play.

451
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Speaker 4: I mean, I don't see any reason. I don't see

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Speaker 4: any reason why not.

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Speaker 8: I was saying, Kindle's a different story, because like, if

454
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Speaker 8: Kendall's not gonna at eighteen.

455
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Speaker 4: Isn't really going to help you. He's not gonna make

456
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Speaker 4: you a better hockey team.

457
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Speaker 8: You know, whatever production you're gonna get out of an

458
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Speaker 8: eighteen year old Kindall, you could get out of Tristan bros.

459
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Speaker 8: So it's just a matter of what's best for his development.

460
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Speaker 8: And I doubt that's playing against men who are going

461
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Speaker 8: to knock him around, but maybe it is.

462
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Speaker 4: I mean that that's that decision should be. I don't

463
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Speaker 4: think he's physically ready. I think that Brunett can handle it.

464
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Speaker 3: I don't think Kindall yet can, although I've been very

465
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Speaker 3: impressed with what we've seen of him this camp.

466
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Speaker 4: I just think it's different.

467
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Speaker 8: It's different calculus when you say to yourself, could this

468
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Speaker 8: guy help our team that make our team better right now?

469
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Speaker 8: Or or you know, is this do we have someone

470
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Speaker 8: internally who could replace them with? And your answer is no,

471
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Speaker 8: because Brunette, the answer is no. I think the calculus

472
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Speaker 8: is different when you talk about sending a kid back

473
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Speaker 8: to junior with kindle.

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Speaker 3: The answers, Yes, we're talking to Jonathan Bomboli of the

475
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Speaker 3: Trip here on the Mark Madden Show. What kind of

476
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Speaker 3: leap were you expecting this year from Cooi of a McGroarty,

477
00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,399
Speaker 3: the best young talent's up front and maybe Tristan bros Too,

478
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Speaker 3: who you mentioned.

479
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm well, the reason bros Is, just to get

480
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Speaker 8: that out of the way is intriguing to me is

481
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Speaker 8: because like, I don't see a lot of center depth

482
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Speaker 8: and a guy who can kind of like bring some

483
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Speaker 8: youthful energy and spark to your bottom six from a

484
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Speaker 8: center position, and I think, and he's got a great shot,

485
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Speaker 8: and I just kind of like what he brings. I

486
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Speaker 8: wouldn't expect a ton I don't think he's gonna come

487
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Speaker 8: in and you know, challenge for the Caulder or something.

488
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Speaker 8: But I think he's a you know, when you talk

489
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Speaker 8: about Cidney Crowsby said something at some point during the preseason.

490
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Speaker 8: He said young, getting younger doesn't mean getting worse, and

491
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Speaker 8: I like that sentiment, and I think, yeah, and I

492
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Speaker 8: think Bros Is a good poster child for that, like

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Speaker 8: you're not gonna get worse with him as opposed to

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Speaker 8: some of the other.

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Speaker 4: I'd rather Tristan Kevin Hayes, no question.

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Speaker 8: Kevin Hayes, right, and Noltari's a guy who has a

497
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Speaker 8: specialized set of skills, but it'd still rather see Bros.

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Speaker 8: You know, Hollander is a guy that you might compare

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Speaker 8: him to, and I'd rather he Bros and Hollander. Not

500
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Speaker 8: that I don't think against Holender. And he had a

501
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Speaker 8: great year in the Swedish League and that sort of

502
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Speaker 8: makes you think maybe there's something there. But in the past,

503
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Speaker 8: you know, he's been a pretty vanilla, run of the

504
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Speaker 8: mill bottom six guy.

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Speaker 4: So Covenan's the guy, though.

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Speaker 8: I mean, it's easy to forget about McGroarty because he's

507
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Speaker 8: out of side, out of my mind, because he's hurt.

508
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Speaker 8: But you watch Conan, you know, and this might not

509
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Speaker 8: be that useful of a of a comparison point because

510
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Speaker 8: he I don't think he's ever gonna have the puck

511
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Speaker 8: on his stick on the power play, at least not

512
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Speaker 8: immediately maybe on the second powerly when it gets to

513
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Speaker 8: play for twenty seconds.

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Speaker 4: But he just sees the ice really really well.

515
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Speaker 3: Like he reminds me against he reminds me of Jake

516
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Speaker 3: a little bit so far. And that's why I'm playing

517
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Speaker 3: with Sid, which I think is the plan.

518
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Speaker 8: I hope so because and I just I mean, the

519
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Speaker 8: vision is there, and he makes the right decisions with

520
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Speaker 8: the puck, you know, and he could get overwhelmed physically,

521
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Speaker 8: I'm sure. I mean he's a young guy, he's a

522
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Speaker 8: small guy, but just watching him with the puck on

523
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Speaker 8: stick is a pleasure. And you know, when was the

524
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Speaker 8: last time the Penguins had a rookie who like you

525
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Speaker 8: expected production out of like offensive production. Probably Denzil is

526
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Speaker 8: actually the answer to that question, like, like he could

527
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Speaker 8: be a dark horse for the Calder because he could

528
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Speaker 8: lead NHL rookies and scoring it. He plays with Sid, yep,

529
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Speaker 8: So I really I really really like Coiveman ever since

530
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Speaker 8: I first saw him, I thought he's like a that's

531
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Speaker 8: a guy who's gonna he's a piece for a winning team.

532
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Speaker 8: McGroarty is is more of a wild card because we

533
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Speaker 8: haven't seen as much of him and he's been hurt,

534
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Speaker 8: and he also has the kind of game where he

535
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Speaker 8: could play on a third line.

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Speaker 4: Well you see that.

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Speaker 3: That's I think McGroarty optimally is a real good third

538
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Speaker 3: line guy, and to to make that happen, you got

539
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Speaker 3: to get better top six guys. But but I think

540
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Speaker 3: you could be excellent. I think he's a piece for

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Speaker 3: a winning team in that context.

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Speaker 4: JB. Yeah, you're probably right.

543
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Speaker 8: And I also think that coaches are gonna be without

544
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Speaker 8: knowing how MEWS operates exactly.

545
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Speaker 4: I mean, we'll find out coaches are a lot more comfortable.

546
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Speaker 8: Playing their young kids in a bottom six or old

547
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Speaker 8: and top throwing them in the top six, you know,

548
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Speaker 8: with with the Hall of Fame center, so they'll be

549
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:08,480
Speaker 8: more comfortable.

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Speaker 4: I would imagine I'm using McGroarty in that fashion.

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Speaker 8: I mean, he's got the tools, you know, like he's

552
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Speaker 8: got the he'll go to the net and he gets

553
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 8: his nose dirty and it's it's exciting. It's you know

554
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Speaker 8: the fact that they're if Brunick makes the team and

555
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Speaker 8: you got you got Brunick, McGroarty and coven In, Like,

556
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 8: those are three pretty high end rookies and I don't

557
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Speaker 8: think there's been three pretty high end rookies on this

558
00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 8: team in a long long time. So does that help

559
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 8: you win games and make the playoffs?

560
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Speaker 4: Probably not? But does that make this? Does that make

561
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Speaker 4: the game more interesting? Does that make it, you know,

562
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 4: more exciting to be a Penguins fan? It definitely does.

563
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Speaker 4: And does that push you in the right direction? I

564
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Speaker 4: think so.

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Speaker 3: There the defensive core worries me, especially if they do

566
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Speaker 3: return Brunick, the juniors, and the guy who worries me

567
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Speaker 3: the most is Pickering because I was kind on him

568
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Speaker 3: to be like, not a top pair but maybe a

569
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Speaker 3: number three, number four defenseman.

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Speaker 4: I'm not sure we're seeing signs of that yet. Yeah,

571
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Speaker 4: I mean he hasn't. He hasn't. He's not a finished

572
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 4: product by now, that's for sure.

573
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Speaker 3: I don't.

574
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Speaker 8: Prefer I don't think no, probably not. He's got one

575
00:31:11,080 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 8: thing going for him, though, is that he's left handed.

576
00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 8: Because the depth chart of left handed defenseman right now

577
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 8: is just dreadful. I mean, you don't like they have

578
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 8: to put right handed guys on the left side just

579
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Speaker 8: to you know, just to fill spots. Maybe that going

580
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Speaker 8: for him, you know what, but the tools are there

581
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Speaker 8: with Pickering, let's put it that way. I mean, he

582
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Speaker 8: moves the puck pretty well.

583
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Speaker 4: He's big guy.

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Speaker 8: He seems to be a smart guy, but he's got

585
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Speaker 8: a ways to go. I mean, they they always used

586
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Speaker 8: to say defenseman took longer to develop, and maybe that's

587
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Speaker 8: the case with him.

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Speaker 4: I think you're right.

589
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Speaker 8: I don't think he like Brunick's a guy who's polished,

590
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 8: man like you. You know, he's gonna take some I

591
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 8: think his weakness is going to take some penalties. He

592
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 8: tends to use his stick a little bit when he's

593
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 8: when he's you know, in a bad spot. But that's

594
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Speaker 8: really the only weakness I see in his game. You know,

595
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Speaker 8: Pickering's got some you know they game sometimes seems a

596
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:01,920
Speaker 8: little fast for him.

597
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Speaker 3: Well, and you know, I like that Brunick is real,

598
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Speaker 3: like emotional, I mean maybe even high struggle a little bit.

599
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Speaker 3: Like there was that video I saw last year when

600
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 3: he came up and played for Wilks late in the

601
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 3: season where he literally tried to fight every guy on

602
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 3: the other team, you know, during a scrum, and you know,

603
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 3: I don't. You don't want your your young guys to

604
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 3: do that all the time, but maybe once in a

605
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 3: while is good.

606
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Speaker 4: And that ties into something I've been saying JB.

607
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Speaker 3: And I bet you agree with the youthful energy has

608
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 3: to take over that locker room. That's why you need

609
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 3: to get as many of them in there as you think,

610
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Speaker 3: you know is possible. And while you got to get

611
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Speaker 3: guys like I mean, no knock on him personally, but

612
00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 3: as an example, you got to get like a Kevin

613
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 3: Hayes out of there because he will not handle the

614
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 3: rebuilding well, he will not handle his ice time being usurped.

615
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Speaker 4: Well. You gotta let the kids take over.

616
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean there's a it's an older guys like

617
00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 8: that have a sense of professionalism that in some cases

618
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:02,960
Speaker 8: is what you need, but in other cases you have

619
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 8: too much of it. Like that might sound crazy, but

620
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Speaker 8: but I think you do need a little bit of

621
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Speaker 8: that sort of like emotion and passion that that young

622
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Speaker 8: guys bring. I mean, look, my background I come from

623
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Speaker 8: the from covering the AHL. I'm always going to say

624
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,560
Speaker 8: play the young guys. I mean, it's just in my nature,

625
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:23,440
Speaker 8: and I think a lot of fans are like that.

626
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:26,960
Speaker 8: I think so, you know, it's not unusual for me

627
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,640
Speaker 8: to say that and any to say this. But when

628
00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 8: I covered the AHL, I always said, a good AHL

629
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 8: team needs some guys that are happy they're not in wheeling,

630
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:37,680
Speaker 8: because I think it's you know, they're.

631
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Speaker 4: Happy to be at the AHL level.

632
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Speaker 8: I think there's a good NHL team needs some guys

633
00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 8: that are happy they're not riding buses. I think it

634
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Speaker 8: it that sort of energy. It's palpable and it's contagious.

635
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Speaker 4: JB.

636
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Speaker 3: What do you expect from the core three? Crosby Malkin Latang, Well,

637
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Speaker 3: I think Crosby's Crosby.

638
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Speaker 8: I don't I don't see any signs really of him

639
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,200
Speaker 8: slowing down at all that if you were gonna nitpick,

640
00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 8: the only thing you'd say is, I don't know that

641
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 8: he's as the two way force that he was, which

642
00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:12,640
Speaker 8: is interesting because other superstar players who got old. I

643
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,320
Speaker 8: think of Steve Eiserman, he got to be he he

644
00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 8: you know, sort of transformed into a more of a

645
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 8: defensive guy, and Crosby's turning into I think, less of

646
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 8: a two way guy. But that might be you know,

647
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 8: construction of the roster too. I mean the fact that

648
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 8: the goaltending and the defense don't exactly lend itself to

649
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:33,719
Speaker 8: keeping pucks out of nets, so that that's just a

650
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 8: minor thing I'm mentioning, and you know, I almost feel

651
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Speaker 8: bad saying it. I mean, Crosby's great and remains great,

652
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 8: and there's no reason to believe that that he won't

653
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 8: continue to be great.

654
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Speaker 4: Malcolm has his moments.

655
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Speaker 8: I think that's really the that's really the player he's become,

656
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Speaker 8: you know, in his late thirties, is that there are

657
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Speaker 8: there glimpses. You'll see it every once in a while,

658
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Speaker 8: get that gallop go, and his legs are feeling good.

659
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Speaker 8: I think he gets worn down more than he has

660
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:03,360
Speaker 8: in the past, and and when he does, he's just,

661
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:04,520
Speaker 8: you know, not as effective.

662
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Speaker 4: I think he gets more. I think he gets more

663
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Speaker 4: none in mid game JB. I think his third periods

664
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Speaker 4: are pretty bad.

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Speaker 8: Now, sure, I think that's fair, but I don't think

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Speaker 8: he's you know, there was a stretch in Malcolm's career

667
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Speaker 8: where he was extremely it was mostly when he was

668
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 8: playing with Kessel, where he was extremely reckless.

669
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Speaker 4: Like with the puck, I don't think he does that.

670
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Speaker 4: That's not he's not becoming that. I mean, he's just

671
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Speaker 4: getting older.

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Speaker 8: And I think Latang the year he had last year

673
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Speaker 8: wasn't good. But I don't I don't know that that

674
00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 8: was Like he's had other stretches of his career where

675
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Speaker 8: you know, he's had ups and downs. Like I'm just saying,

676
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Speaker 8: Latang's the one I'm not sure about, Like I don't

677
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Speaker 8: know that his aging curve is linear.

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Speaker 4: I think he could have a good season or a

679
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Speaker 4: bad season.

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Speaker 8: I think he could go either way, just because he

681
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 8: is in such incredible shape, first of all, like no

682
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Speaker 8: other athlete I've ever seen. And second of all, if

683
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Speaker 8: you you know he played thirty minutes a game, if

684
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Speaker 8: you're knocking that down to twenty five minutes a game, it's.

685
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Speaker 4: Just a little bit of a different role.

686
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Speaker 8: He's to me, of the three veteran guys, he's the

687
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Speaker 8: one you're sure of the least. Could go great, could

688
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Speaker 8: go badly.

689
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Speaker 4: Not sure.

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Speaker 3: Well in that, then what about Carlson, I'm expecting more disappointment.

691
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Speaker 3: I've never been more disappointed by a high end acquisition

692
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Speaker 3: in the history of this franchise.

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Speaker 8: Since he's got to the Penguins. You want to talk

694
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 8: about predictable, He's been completely predictable. He is, I mean,

695
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 8: he drives your offense when he's on the ice, you know,

696
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Speaker 8: and then defensively he's a disaster.

697
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Speaker 4: So you know, I don't expect that to be any different.

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Speaker 8: There are teams that are constructed in such a way

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Speaker 8: that they can absorb that better than the Penguins have

700
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 8: the last couple of years. And I don't know if

701
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 8: you know. I mean we're talking about a new system now,

702
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:51,320
Speaker 8: so that's a wild card. You know, how mused is

703
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 8: gonna want his defenseman to play, it's gonna be different. Yeah,

704
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 8: if he adheres to it, well, his partner will, So

705
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 8: you know, that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: You put him in a construct, you know, in.

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Speaker 8: A in a sort of situation that can you know,

708
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,560
Speaker 8: accentuate his talents and hide his weaknesses.

709
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Speaker 4: Like that's that's there's a possibility that Carlson could be

710
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Speaker 4: in that spot.

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00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,440
Speaker 8: So yeah, I'm not I have no you know, he's

712
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 8: going to push play and we you know, sometimes when

713
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Speaker 8: you watch him make a mistake in his own end,

714
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 8: you forget about how good he is at just driving

715
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,359
Speaker 8: the offensive play. So don't forget that, like, don't sell

716
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Speaker 8: him short on the offensive end. But at the same time,

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Speaker 8: I mean, you know, you got your big minuses to

718
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Speaker 8: go with your big pluses.

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Speaker 4: Finally, JB, what about goal.

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Speaker 3: Assuming Marassoff doesn't doesn't make the team, what do you

721
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Speaker 3: expect from Jari? Because there's never been doubting Jarry's talent,

722
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,040
Speaker 3: he just doesn't have the focus or consistency.

723
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Speaker 8: Yeah, consistency is the thing, right, I mean, he's He's

724
00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,200
Speaker 8: looked great at stretches. He was even pretty good at

725
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:56,640
Speaker 8: the end of last year. The one thing that I

726
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Speaker 8: think the Penguins have going for them in goal this

727
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 8: season could compaired to the like the last two necessarily,

728
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Speaker 8: is that I think that the leash for jar will

729
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 8: be real short, like because they have other options and

730
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Speaker 8: they had the cap space to bury some guys in

731
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Speaker 8: the miners.

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Speaker 4: He would be one of them.

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Speaker 8: So you know, if he if he struggles like he

734
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Speaker 8: did last year, you're not gonna have to watch that

735
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Speaker 8: for two months because you know, she loves will get

736
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Speaker 8: his chance yep. And then you know, and then Murraca

737
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:30,200
Speaker 8: will get his chance. So you know, the the leash

738
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Speaker 8: is shorter, the ice is thinner. Who knows that could

739
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Speaker 8: motivate a guy to play better. I mean it has

740
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Speaker 8: you know, it wouldn't be the first time something like

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Speaker 8: that happened.

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Speaker 4: It'll be the first time with him. Well, I do.

743
00:38:41,560 --> 00:38:44,160
Speaker 4: That's true. He came back from Wilkes last year and

744
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 4: turned it up a notch, but not for very long.

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Speaker 8: Right, So I'm just saying I'm not ruling out the

746
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,799
Speaker 8: fact that he, you know, goaltending is weird, man. I mean,

747
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 8: I don't rule out the idea that Jarry could have

748
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 8: a good year and surprise people. It's not on the question.

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Speaker 8: But I just think it's very important to not just

750
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Speaker 8: you know, slogged through him struggling for very long. I mean,

751
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 8: you got options, so make sure you use them.

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Speaker 4: JB.

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Speaker 3: Great stuff. I appreciate the expertise. We'll talk to you

754
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 3: again soon. Yeah, my pleasure, Mark Jonathan Bumbully check him

755
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 3: out at the trip up next.

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Speaker 4: Tom's not here, but we got the trifecta. I'll do it.

757
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 4: It won't be as good as when he does it

758
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 4: because he puts time and effort into it.

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00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,520
Speaker 3: And then at three point fifteen, we talked to Penguin's

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Speaker 3: rookie Avery Hayes one oh five ninety.

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Speaker 3: of a deal. Right now, even though Tom is not here,

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Speaker 3: the trifecta.

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Speaker 4: Keeps going.

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Speaker 3: This is the top three young guys at Penguins Camp,

776
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Speaker 3: and it's kind of an odd list because, well, let

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Speaker 3: me read it. Goaltender Sergei miroshof number three, and I

778
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Speaker 3: gotta get a final call on how to pronounce his name.

779
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Speaker 3: I hear Marashov too, but he's number three when you're

780
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Speaker 3: Billy coyven and is number two and number one with

781
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Speaker 3: a bullet is defenseman Harrison Brunic, who I more and

782
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Speaker 3: more things, just has to make the team, period and

783
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:49,719
Speaker 3: forget about that nine game trial and then send him

784
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Speaker 3: back to junior.

785
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Speaker 4: He's been the best defenseman of camp.

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Speaker 3: Nineteen year olds don't often play in the league, but

787
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Speaker 3: fairly frequently, so I would just keep him period, because

788
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Speaker 3: if you send your best defenseman back to junior, I

789
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Speaker 3: understand look at the big picture, but you're also kind

790
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Speaker 3: of sending the wrong message. And also I would put

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Speaker 3: Avery Hayes our guest at three fifteen. I'd put him

792
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Speaker 3: on that list just below and Ben Kendall, the Penguin's

793
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Speaker 3: first first round pick this season. He's looked real good,

794
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,800
Speaker 3: but I think he needs a little more time in

795
00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 3: juniors to develop physically. But the Penguins have had their

796
00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 3: share of young guys looking good in this camp. The

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Speaker 3: trifecta brought to us by Danny's Petron Hogies, Pittsburgh's original

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Speaker 3: oven big Togy since nineteen sixty. That's Danny's on Route

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Speaker 3: eighty eight in Bethel Park. I just saw an ad

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Speaker 3: with arch Manning. I think for shortz he was wearing

801
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:51,520
Speaker 3: shorts and uh, he's a good looking guy. Obviously, No

802
00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:54,320
Speaker 3: Zach Effron, But he's good looking. Have you noticed that

803
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,600
Speaker 3: all quarterbacks are good looking?

804
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Speaker 1: You know why?

805
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 3: In high school, the goode's gonna get the first shot

806
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 3: of playing quarterback. It's the stereotype. If there's a good

807
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 3: looking kid and an ugly kid to play quarterback, the

808
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:10,120
Speaker 3: coach is gonna put the good looking kid at quarterback

809
00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 3: and the ugly kid, I don't know, safety, linebacker, wherever.

810
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:18,320
Speaker 3: The good looking kid gets first shot. Again, it's the

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Speaker 3: quarterback stereotype. He's the stud, he's the prom king. The

812
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: good looking kid is gonna be the quarterback. Tell me

813
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, tell me the exception. We're gonna talk about

814
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 3: the possibility of trading Mitch Keller because that's gonna be

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Speaker 3: their big offseason move.

816
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Speaker 4: For sure.

817
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Speaker 3: It is for sure, that is gonna be their big

818
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Speaker 3: offseason move. We're gonna talk more about pickleball, which I

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Speaker 3: just have no respect for. There was a funny tweet

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Speaker 3: about pickleball, a Babylon b tweet, and we'll get to

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Speaker 3: that in just a little bit. But I'm next, I'm

822
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Speaker 3: gonna drill down really deep into the Penguins preseason and

823
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Speaker 3: their roster, because that's what I care most to buy.

824
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Speaker 3: And it is the Steelers Bye week A mark Man

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Speaker 3: one oh five ninety X.

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Speaker 4: Now it's Jerry