WEBVTT - When Do You Know It's Time? 

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<v Speaker 1>All right, it's Mojo in the Morning Show. Anybody that

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<v Speaker 1>has a pet that grows old with you knows it's

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<v Speaker 1>the toughest thing. Ever, when you know that they're growing

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<v Speaker 1>old is not going to be happening much longer. Shannon's

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<v Speaker 1>been dealing with this on a couple of occasions with animals,

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<v Speaker 1>because she's got a few of them. One is Wes's dog,

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<v Speaker 1>which miraculously Wes's dog is still with us, and Lively pig.

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<v Speaker 2>Willow our friends Toe.

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<v Speaker 3>We were going to have to put her to sleep

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<v Speaker 3>because she had a spine issue, and she came back

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<v Speaker 3>from the dead Lazarus.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was great, Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>But with the dog you truly love, because the other

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<v Speaker 1>dogs are whatever, But this was the dog that you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of had your start with.

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<v Speaker 4>Charlie.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, how old is Charlie?

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<v Speaker 3>He is sixteen and a half. Sixteen and a half,

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<v Speaker 3>I know. He's my little rider Die. I got him.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've been listening to the show for a long time,

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<v Speaker 3>you remember me crying on the air because I was

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<v Speaker 3>so lonely. I had just moved back home to Detroit

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<v Speaker 3>and I would come home every day to an empty house.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I got this little fluffy black and white

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<v Speaker 3>dog to keep me company. And it's been sixteen and

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<v Speaker 3>a half years. I had Charlie before I had my husband's,

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<v Speaker 3>my kids. Like, just yeah, he's been there for everything.

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<v Speaker 1>But Charlie's lived through a lot relationships you had dated

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that. Actually, Charlie was there for you

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<v Speaker 1>when you had an engagement ended.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean when I say ride or died. This dog,

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<v Speaker 3>this dog knows it all.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but he is.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell he's nearing the end and it is

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<v Speaker 3>really really apparent. And it's hard because he still does

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things normal. He still eats, he still

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<v Speaker 3>begs for treats, he's still like you know, princes around,

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<v Speaker 3>although he's getting he's having a tougher time with that.

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<v Speaker 3>And I have wood floors throughout my house, so he

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<v Speaker 3>does this like Bambi thing a lot or his legs

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<v Speaker 3>display and he gets stuck there and we kind of

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<v Speaker 3>have to pick him up and kind of get him

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<v Speaker 3>going again. The vet has told me he has really

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<v Speaker 3>severe dementia because he paces all day and he cries

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<v Speaker 3>a lot until we've had to give him some CBD

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<v Speaker 3>to help with the anxiety and the dementia. He's been

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<v Speaker 3>wearing a diaper for like a year or two, so

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<v Speaker 3>it's nothing new for me to have to use that,

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<v Speaker 3>but now more so than ever.

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<v Speaker 2>He poops in the house too.

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<v Speaker 3>He's just like a lot. I don't think you can

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<v Speaker 3>see or hear well at this point. And so I've like,

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<v Speaker 3>I've been having this discussion with Wes, like when do

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<v Speaker 3>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>That it's actually time?

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't think I will ever be able to

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<v Speaker 3>make that decision. I don't ever want to have to

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<v Speaker 3>make that decision. And it's gotten to the point now

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<v Speaker 3>where I wake up in the morning and he sleeps

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<v Speaker 3>in a little bed next to my bed, and I

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<v Speaker 3>just really hope that he has like died sleep because

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to go, Okay, today's the day that

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<v Speaker 3>I have to take him to the vat, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>And I'm like, I still feel like this dog's got

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<v Speaker 3>some time and.

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<v Speaker 4>All aside from the dementia. Do you think he's like

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<v Speaker 4>in pain.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I know he has arthritis, like, but he's still,

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, he still gets around, he goes up

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<v Speaker 3>the stairs, he's you know, the vets like he's actually

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<v Speaker 3>for his age, he's in really good shape, like he's

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<v Speaker 3>got dimensionly, he's got arthritis whatever, But like there's you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Can I say this though, that's I don't believe because

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<v Speaker 1>they're all thats are about our bill. I feel I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like there's a lot of cases they're like he's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>everything's good, but it's quality of life. I think that

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<v Speaker 1>at some point, you know, does Charlie want to be

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<v Speaker 1>you know, walking around with a diaper on and having

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<v Speaker 1>his legs go out from underneath him and bouncing into

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<v Speaker 1>the walls like at some at some point and I

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<v Speaker 1>know it's tough for you, but at some point it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost humane for the dog. And just to say and

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<v Speaker 1>it listen, I believe this. I believe this for also

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<v Speaker 1>humans too. I hate to say this, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>we as humans, you know, if we're that way, they

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<v Speaker 1>put us in places called, you know, nursing home. You

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<v Speaker 1>ever walk into a nursing home and said I want

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<v Speaker 1>to live in this place?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>And so I was talking to my friend Kristen, who

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<v Speaker 3>works for henry Ford Health and she's becoming a friend

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<v Speaker 3>of mine, and I was telling her about this. We

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<v Speaker 3>went on like a hike the other day and she

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<v Speaker 3>said she was in the same predicament with her dog,

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<v Speaker 3>her older dog, and she finally said to her dog,

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<v Speaker 3>please let me know when it is time for you, like,

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<v Speaker 3>please give me a big sign to let me know

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<v Speaker 3>that it is time, because she was in the same

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<v Speaker 3>boat as me, and she said her dog stopped eating

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<v Speaker 3>and she was like, okay, so I know that it

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<v Speaker 3>is time. Like she felt at peace with making that decision.

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<v Speaker 4>What kind of appetite is Charlie him?

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<v Speaker 2>He still eats like a.

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<v Speaker 1>He does normal, Okay, Because if that's the case, I agree,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah a certain point, you know.

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<v Speaker 4>That's the thing.

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<v Speaker 3>And the diaper, by the way, the diaper we put

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<v Speaker 3>on a because he's such an alpha and he was

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<v Speaker 3>just like anywhere he smelled the other dog.

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<v Speaker 2>This was like years ago when we first.

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<v Speaker 4>Got b that just started having what's up tivity? How

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<v Speaker 4>you doing?

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<v Speaker 5>Bye?

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<v Speaker 6>So I started crying a little bit when I heard Shannon.

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<v Speaker 7>I had a dog for eighteen years that I got

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<v Speaker 7>as my graduation gift from high school actually, and she unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 7>we had to put her down a week before I

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<v Speaker 7>gave birth to my daughter. And it was probably the

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<v Speaker 7>hardest thing.

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<v Speaker 5>I've ever done because she was with me all like my.

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<v Speaker 6>Growing up life, through relationships, through college, through you know,

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<v Speaker 6>three engagements, through my son being born.

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<v Speaker 5>And I was already.

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<v Speaker 6>Emotional because I was heavily pregnant, but doing that because

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<v Speaker 6>she was like my first baby, like baby baby, It

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<v Speaker 6>was really really, really tough.

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<v Speaker 5>But she looked at me and I knew it was

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<v Speaker 5>one of those books like Shannon was say and her

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<v Speaker 5>friend like that, like, just give me a sign.

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<v Speaker 6>My dog her name was Barbie.

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<v Speaker 5>And I said, if you need to go, just let mommy.

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<v Speaker 8>Know, and she gave me this look and I told

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<v Speaker 8>my mom, I said time. But I mean I had

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<v Speaker 8>the best memories with her, and as much as I

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<v Speaker 8>wanted my daughter to meet her, I knew it was

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<v Speaker 8>the right decision.

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<v Speaker 4>So wow, that's hard. And how long ago was this

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<v Speaker 4>that you had to do this?

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<v Speaker 6>My daughter is just hehrm four.

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<v Speaker 4>Tough.

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it wild that that we mourn and cry in

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<v Speaker 1>our family? We did this way more than when my

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<v Speaker 1>dad passed, Like my dad meant a lot to my boys.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that I'm not taking that away, and he

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<v Speaker 1>meant obviously a lot to me and Chelsea, but we,

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<v Speaker 1>like Lily was, it was devastated.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you guys have to put Lily downright, we did.

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<v Speaker 4>Lily had.

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<v Speaker 1>Lily had such bad cancer that if we didn't, it

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<v Speaker 1>was just going to cause for her to have more

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<v Speaker 1>and more pain and she could bleed out and stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was you know, that was one thing I

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<v Speaker 1>will say about our vet that we go to some bets.

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<v Speaker 1>The vet that we went to at that time was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, guys, what do you you know you got

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<v Speaker 1>to make that call. Some bets though, I swear to you,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that they sometimes just want to hold onto

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<v Speaker 1>a bill.

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<v Speaker 3>I really do see my vet. I feel like he's

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<v Speaker 3>very He's not a fact. Yeah, he doesn't a sugarcoat.

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<v Speaker 3>What's anything?

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<v Speaker 4>What's up? Lexi?

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<v Speaker 6>Hi?

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<v Speaker 9>How are you guys?

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<v Speaker 1>We're doing okay. Poor Shannon's over here crying and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>and getting emotional. Our last caller too, is very emotional.

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<v Speaker 1>But how are you doing?

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<v Speaker 10>But I'm doing good.

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<v Speaker 11>I just have a comment that you know makes me

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<v Speaker 11>emotional too.

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<v Speaker 10>These dogs, all they give you is love for years

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<v Speaker 10>and years, and I always say.

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<v Speaker 12>The best thing you can do is let them go

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<v Speaker 12>on a good day. My childhood dog was fine, fine, fine,

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<v Speaker 12>up until she was about fourteen. The night before she

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<v Speaker 12>was acting fine, and unfortunately I did. I don't want

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<v Speaker 12>to see your monger.

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<v Speaker 10>But you wake up and with the seizures and all

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<v Speaker 10>of that, at the end of the day, there's still animals,

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<v Speaker 10>and unfortunately things do happen, and sometimes it's best for

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<v Speaker 10>you and other people to let them go on a

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<v Speaker 10>good day. You know, they gave us everything, and it's

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<v Speaker 10>hard for us to make that decision. You know, it's

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<v Speaker 10>an impossible decision. But versus giving yourself a situation that

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<v Speaker 10>you know might traumatize you in a way, you know,

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<v Speaker 10>I guess that's kind of my.

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<v Speaker 11>Point of it all. Where how do you make that

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<v Speaker 11>impossible decision?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And that's where I am right now.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I feel like I need to give him

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<v Speaker 3>the pep talk that my friend Kristen told me to

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<v Speaker 3>give him, of like, let me know when it's time.

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<v Speaker 10>I will.

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<v Speaker 2>I will not make that decision.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, in that collar, you said to the first collar,

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<v Speaker 1>when the dog gave a look to that color, what's up, Jacqueline?

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<v Speaker 3>Bye?

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<v Speaker 5>Good morning, God good.

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<v Speaker 9>I'm so sorry. I dogs through my life. I have

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<v Speaker 9>four right now. I've rescue plenty of seniors, put down

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<v Speaker 9>plenty of them. Unfortunately. But my last dog, he was

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<v Speaker 9>a shelty and he had really bad our stortation. He

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<v Speaker 9>struggled on the hardwood floors as well. But I got

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<v Speaker 9>him little doggy grippy socks and they helped him so much.

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<v Speaker 9>Like you can just how I put those on. He

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<v Speaker 9>was walking around, strutting around, and it was just wonderful.

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<v Speaker 9>And I mean he wore those up until we decided

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<v Speaker 9>that it was time. So I highly recommend getting those

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<v Speaker 9>are to talk amazon.

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<v Speaker 1>They're super I'm looking right now, isn't it funny? He's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna look like he's gonna look like the old man.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care. That would be very helpful.

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<v Speaker 9>Little actually my other Golden too when she passed away.

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<v Speaker 9>That helped her. But Clap of Love and Home just

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<v Speaker 9>in Asia was probably one of the most beautiful things

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<v Speaker 9>I've ever done.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me tell you something moment.

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<v Speaker 3>I know all about lap Belove because that's who we

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<v Speaker 3>hired to come for Willow And an hour and a

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<v Speaker 3>half before the fat was going to come, she got up.

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<v Speaker 4>She she.

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<v Speaker 1>Was like, yeah, yeah, I don't want it to We

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<v Speaker 1>took Lily to that whatever the emergency doctor that they had,

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<v Speaker 1>the emergency vet because I didn't want it to be

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<v Speaker 1>that we have to sit there and walk by the

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<v Speaker 1>spot that Lily died, Like you know, it's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do it in.

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<v Speaker 4>Lily's area or dog and I'm like, that's our living room.

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<v Speaker 3>Every day we go look at the living room and

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<v Speaker 3>talking to me about okay, like we need to have

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<v Speaker 3>a plan, and I'm like, I don't even want to

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<v Speaker 3>talk about that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, don't make me sure it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Funny with a willow. You're like, kill the damn thing. No,

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<v Speaker 1>that was not my discussion. Let the willow run on

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<v Speaker 1>the streets. And Shannon was like, literally, off, my is Caim.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you there, Kim?

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<v Speaker 10>Yeah, I'm here.

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<v Speaker 11>Can you hear me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Kim, this is a horrible topic to have for

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<v Speaker 1>you coming up this morning after what happened to you

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<v Speaker 1>on Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 12>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 11>I just wanted to tell Shannon I completely understand. I

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<v Speaker 11>lost my twenty year old cat on Tuesday, and you know,

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<v Speaker 11>they're just a part of your family and every one

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<v Speaker 11>of those seasons that you go through and you remember

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<v Speaker 11>and they can't laid next to me while I was

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<v Speaker 11>in chemo, he laid next to me and I was

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<v Speaker 11>going through breakups. He was like my ride and die

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<v Speaker 11>for everything. And we also lost our cabapoo back and

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<v Speaker 11>things like Thanksgiving time frame, so that the worst scenario.

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<v Speaker 11>But what I wanted to say to Shannon is he

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<v Speaker 11>was perfectly fine until two days before and then it

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<v Speaker 11>was like he absolutely pulled us.

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<v Speaker 4>It was time.

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<v Speaker 11>And I spent the day just holding him in the

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<v Speaker 11>sun all day and giving him all his little special treats.

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<v Speaker 11>And it's horrific the day after, right, because all the

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<v Speaker 11>routines you're used to and getting up and feeding them

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<v Speaker 11>and letting them out and doing all that, but they're

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<v Speaker 11>at peace, right. You have to just know that they.

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<v Speaker 5>Need to have that peace in their life too.

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<v Speaker 11>So I'm so sorry you're going.

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<v Speaker 1>To this, Kim. I want you to know that we're

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<v Speaker 1>very sorry for your cat. But Shannon doesn't care because

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<v Speaker 1>she hates cats.

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<v Speaker 2>I hate the ID. I'm not a cat fan.

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<v Speaker 4>She's basically like, oh good, another dead cat.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I was like, now the Kavapoo, maybe maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he's just a little fair. How are you doing, By

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm thinking of you. You said you went

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<v Speaker 1>through chemo. Are you feeling okay?

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<v Speaker 7>Oh?

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<v Speaker 11>Actually it was It's funny. I'm on my way to

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<v Speaker 11>a doctor's appointment at Michigan Medicine. Yeah, and I am

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<v Speaker 11>fourteen years out from breast cancer and I'm actually going

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<v Speaker 11>to have my implants chucked because they've been in too long.

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<v Speaker 11>I kind of laughed and said, what, you did not

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<v Speaker 11>expect me to live this long? So now I'm finally

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<v Speaker 11>going back to get that chucked. But yes, Michigan Medicine

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<v Speaker 11>saved my life.

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<v Speaker 4>To love you, Kim, Thank you for I appreciate you