1 00:00:01,480 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: Well, Hello, two Day Heights, basking in the glow of 2 00:00:07,720 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: another Bengals victory at the end of a season with 3 00:00:10,680 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: nowhere to go afterwards against a lesser NFL team, but 4 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: a win is still a win in the National Football League. 5 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Congratulations Bengals on their blowout of Arizona yesterday at Pei 6 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 2: Corp Stadium. Boy, the last nice day of the year too, 7 00:00:31,480 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 2: unless you love you know, thirteen degree windshills and win 8 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 2: guests of thirty or forty miles an hour, which is 9 00:00:39,640 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 2: what we have today, Gary Jeff Walker in for Willie 10 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,760 Speaker 2: on this last Monday of the year, and our first 11 00:00:47,800 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 2: guest on the last Monday of the year is producer 12 00:00:51,159 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: and director of the documentary The Last six hundred Meters. 13 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: This is about two of the deadliest battles of the 14 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,000 Speaker 2: Iraq War early on from the perspective of the men 15 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:12,280 Speaker 2: who fought it, and its producer and director is a 16 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: man named Michael Pack and he is on my line 17 00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 2: right now. Good afternoon, and happy New year, Michael. How 18 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 2: are you. 19 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 3: I'm doing well. Happy New Year to you to you. 20 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 2: Too, Oh, thank you very much. This was filmed obviously 21 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 2: years ago and it's just been this documentary and it's 22 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 2: just coming out. Now, tell me a little bit about 23 00:01:33,959 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 2: the last six hundred meters from your perspective, since you 24 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 2: were instrumental in putting it together. 25 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,759 Speaker 4: Absolutely, well, let's call the last six hundred meters because 26 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 4: the Special Force of Sniper says in the film, I 27 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:50,200 Speaker 4: don't make foreign policy. I just delivered the last six 28 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 4: hundred meters of it, meaning what he could see through 29 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 4: his sniperscope. And that's what we tried to do in 30 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 4: this film. As you said in the introduction, how the 31 00:01:58,840 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 4: story is from the point of view people who fought there, 32 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 4: and these these the biggest battles America's forts since Vietnam, 33 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 4: Belujah and the jeff And we spoke to people from 34 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 4: corporals and sergeants up to the one star generals that 35 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 4: were in the field. We try to tell these stories 36 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 4: without politics. Is if their battle stories could like historical 37 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: battles like Gettysburger Ewejima. And it's that feeling that you know, 38 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:24,400 Speaker 4: we asked these young men and women to fight and 39 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 4: die for us. We should at least understand what they 40 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 4: did and understand their valor and sacrifice. And it's true 41 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,919 Speaker 4: that we did. We shot these interviews many years ago. 42 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 4: The battles took place in two thousand and four. We 43 00:02:36,680 --> 00:02:40,480 Speaker 4: shot the interviews in two thousand and six when the 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 4: people were still young and they look like they did 45 00:02:42,720 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 4: in the footage. And then it was primarily funded by 46 00:02:46,040 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 4: the Corporation of Public Broadcasting, and it took us many 47 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:51,080 Speaker 4: years before PBS agreed to put it on the air, 48 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: but they broadcasted the day before Veterans Day of this 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 4: past fall, and now they're distributing it to Amazon and 50 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 4: soon elsewhere so your listeners can get it. I got 51 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,440 Speaker 4: directly to Amazon and just searching for the last six 52 00:03:04,520 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: hundred meters, or to our website Matifold Productions dot com, 53 00:03:08,320 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: where we've made over fifteen sounds for public television and 54 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:12,400 Speaker 4: they're all listed there. 55 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,160 Speaker 2: You mentioned the Corporation for Public Broadcasting, of which you 56 00:03:16,200 --> 00:03:18,919 Speaker 2: were a CEO, and you were also co chair of 57 00:03:18,960 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 2: the International TV Council there and the Senate confirmed you 58 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 2: to serve in the National Council of the Humanities, which 59 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:31,400 Speaker 2: oversaw the National and Dance Endowment for the Humanities. Michael, 60 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 2: you know what I love about Wikipedia, Almost nothing except 61 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 2: it's a great It's it's a great source for slanted 62 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 2: information because they they termed your term from June to 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty to January of twenty twenty one, when you 64 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:58,360 Speaker 2: served as the CEO of well overseeing basically the Voice 65 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: of America and several other entities of our federal government 66 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: in overseas and broadcasting. And Wikipedia terms your your time 67 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: there as a time of crisis because you actually fired 68 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 2: people that needed to be fired, you know. And and 69 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 2: since President Trump has returned to office, Uh, he's talked 70 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 2: about defunding NPR and the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in 71 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,839 Speaker 2: its current form. Uh, you know, why are taxpayers paying 72 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: for basically state run radio and TV? And I think 73 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:39,839 Speaker 2: he has a point there. What's your thought in retrospect 74 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 2: looking back on your time and and what's gone on 75 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,479 Speaker 2: now since President Trump has returned. 76 00:04:46,160 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 4: To office, Well, he has defunded CPD, which means PBS 77 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 4: and NPR. My other time, my most contentious time in 78 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 4: the first Trump administration, as you said, was as the 79 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: US Agency for Global Media, which oversees the Voice of 80 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 4: America and the other international broadcasters. And President Trump has 81 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:10,320 Speaker 4: entrusted carry Lake with the job of reducing it to 82 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 4: its statutory minimum. 83 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 3: And I agree with that. 84 00:05:13,839 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 4: Actually, I found these organizations to be tremendously biased. There 85 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:21,840 Speaker 4: are a case study in what happens with the administrative 86 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:25,360 Speaker 4: state when you have an unelected branch of government, essentially 87 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:28,600 Speaker 4: government bureaucrats acting as if they know more than the president, 88 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 4: which they may or may not know more than the president. 89 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 4: But he's elected by the American people and he needs 90 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 4: to have the power to get his vision across in 91 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:38,600 Speaker 4: the time that he's president. If you don't like it, 92 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 4: you've got to vote him out of office. But these 93 00:05:41,560 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 4: administrative agencies are very resistant to that. 94 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:47,200 Speaker 3: They think they know better. They think President Trump what 95 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 3: does he know about the media? 96 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 4: You know, he's just a sort of reality star where 97 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 4: really journalists. 98 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:55,159 Speaker 3: And they chose not to listen to me. 99 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 5: Or as the representative of President Trump. And I think 100 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,720 Speaker 5: that I have an important mission the Voice of America, 101 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,720 Speaker 5: which is to tell America's story to the world and 102 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 5: counter propaganda from ora enemies like China and Russia and Iran. 103 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 5: But they're not actually doing it in an effective way, 104 00:06:13,480 --> 00:06:17,480 Speaker 5: and they're not responsive to the President. And those institutions 105 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,800 Speaker 5: need to be demolished and rebuilt from the ground up. 106 00:06:20,839 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 5: And that's a very tough job that the president is 107 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 5: entrusted to carry lake, and I think it needs to 108 00:06:27,560 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 5: be done, and. 109 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,600 Speaker 3: There are a lot of that across the government. 110 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 4: I feel like in a way the Doge action elon 111 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 4: Musk separates were really not directed properly. 112 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,359 Speaker 3: It was It's not just the waste, broad and abuse. 113 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 4: There's something wrong with unelected bureaucrats acting as if they 114 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 4: know better than the president, whether they do or not. 115 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 4: That's not the way democracy works. And that was a 116 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 4: problem for me, and you can see it in my 117 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 4: Wikipedia page which you reference where they at all, where 118 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 4: they chose to reference all these facts of me from 119 00:06:59,680 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 4: the Wash and Post of the New York Times and 120 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 4: NPR and elsewhere. So then, which is a symptom of 121 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 4: the problem itself. So yes, I think it's a tough thing. 122 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 4: And President Trump has way bigger problems where those where 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 4: there's a resistant bureaucracy and huge institutions like the Defense 124 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: Department of the Department of Justice that are far more important. 125 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 4: But I found that the problems of the US Agency 126 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 4: for Global Media were. 127 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 3: A small case study in this kind of issue. 128 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:32,520 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely a microcosm of that larger administrative state that 129 00:07:32,560 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: you spoke of and it's so odd you were fired 130 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: or asked to leave your position two hours after Joe 131 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 2: Biden took office, two hours And I don't remember any 132 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 2: great uproar of people fight. You can't fire Michael Pack. 133 00:07:50,840 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: He's doing He's doing a great job. Nobody kicked and 134 00:07:54,440 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 2: screamed about that. But when President Trump, who is the 135 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 2: executive and had the purview to fire these heads of 136 00:08:02,600 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 2: these agencies who aren't doing what his agenda speaks to 137 00:08:07,360 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 2: what they should be doing, you know, are acting like 138 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 2: it's a constitutional crisis that the executive would do. 139 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:15,720 Speaker 4: That. 140 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,119 Speaker 2: Therein lies the difference between right and left. I think, 141 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 2: at least right now in this country. Would you agree 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: with that? 143 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 3: I do agree. 144 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:29,800 Speaker 4: I mean I had a multi year appointment which President 145 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 4: Biden shows to ignore. And it's true he fired me 146 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 4: or asked me to resign within an hour. I think 147 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 4: of his inauguration. Politico re appointed it, reported it as the 148 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 4: first foreign policy actor of the Biden administration, which I 149 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 4: guess is kind of an honor. I'm more important than 150 00:08:46,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 4: Russia or or whatever other foreign policy challenges he had, 151 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:54,160 Speaker 4: So I wasn't the first to go. And more importantly, 152 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 4: we had people that I have brought in who had 153 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: actual binding contracts to run like radio for your Greater 154 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 4: Liberty Middle East Broadcasting Radio Free Asia. And they had 155 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 4: actual contracts, written, contracts, signed, legitimate and he fired them. 156 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 4: And that really is a violation of the rule of law. 157 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:14,600 Speaker 3: In America, where a contract is supposed to be a contract. 158 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 4: That those people, those heads of those networks were told 159 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 4: by their lawyers that they had right on their. 160 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 3: Side, but that would never be. 161 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 4: It would take them years to win, cost them a 162 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 4: huge amount of money, and just wasn't worth it. So 163 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 4: they were illegally fired, even more so than myself. And yes, 164 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 4: there was no uproar. It was not even covered. It 165 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: was not even covered. That's such a small you know, 166 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 4: sin wasn't even covered in right leaning media, let alone 167 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 4: and left leaning media. 168 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 2: You mentioned Doge, and the first big Doge cuts were 169 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 2: to USAID, which I totally agreed with, since a lot 170 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,960 Speaker 2: of this money seemed to me from the outside looking 171 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:04,280 Speaker 2: in as just a giant money laundering organization where the 172 00:10:04,320 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: money was supposed to go to whatever transgender turtles in 173 00:10:10,200 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: Turkey too, and it somehow found its way back into 174 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 2: the pockets of people here in the United States. I 175 00:10:19,040 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 2: hope that they unravel all of that and that no 176 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:28,240 Speaker 2: longer is a burden on the US taxpayer. Let's switch 177 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: gears here talking to Michael Pack who was the producer 178 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:34,840 Speaker 2: and director. He's also the president of Manifold Productions and 179 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,640 Speaker 2: Palladium Pictures. With this documentary the last six hundred meters 180 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 2: about two of the deadliest battles in Iraq in the 181 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:48,480 Speaker 2: Iraq Will War two thousand and four, that the President 182 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 2: laid a huge Christmas present, if you want to call 183 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:56,840 Speaker 2: it that on ISIS in Nigeria over the Christmas holiday 184 00:10:57,760 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: and these strikes, of course, tarketing this terrorist group which 185 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 2: Trump had already defeated the Caliphate in his first term 186 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:10,000 Speaker 2: in a matter of weeks, along with the great strategy 187 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 2: of the military and the great leaders there. He warned 188 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: them they'd have held to pay if they kept killing 189 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:21,320 Speaker 2: Christians in these huge numbers in Nigeria, and he delivered 190 00:11:21,360 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 2: once again an any thoughts on that this, Michael, I think. 191 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: That's well put that he you know, Isis remains a threat. 192 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 4: And people sometimes think of Donald Trump as a neo isolationist. 193 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 3: I don't think that's really right. He's been consistent. 194 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 4: He's, as you say, he opposed ISIS in the first term, 195 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: and he they're not defeated and he's opposed to them. 196 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:51,719 Speaker 3: Now. It is true that, you know, we want to. 197 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: Avoid getting sucked into an endless land war, as we've 198 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 4: done before, but I think Tom Trump is very sensitive 199 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 4: about that, so I supportive of those attacks on ISIS. 200 00:12:02,120 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 4: Another documentary we're working on with the Wall Street Journalist 201 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 4: about withdrawal from Afghanistan, which you may remember ended with 202 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 4: a suicide bombing on the part of ISIS k that 203 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 4: it killed thirteen Americans and hundreds of Afghan citizens. So 204 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 4: I think these these you know, Radical Islam remains a threat. 205 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 4: I think Donald Trump is right to attack them where 206 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:28,080 Speaker 4: they threaten Americans. So I'm supportive of that, you know, 207 00:12:28,120 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 4: and I think defending Christians is an admirable goal. But 208 00:12:31,400 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 4: it's not just that in the Syria attacks, you know, 209 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:36,800 Speaker 4: had nothing to do with Christians. I think he's opposed 210 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 4: to radical Islam because of its threat to American citizens 211 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 4: and others that remain an international threat. 212 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:46,440 Speaker 3: So I'm supportive of that. 213 00:12:47,760 --> 00:12:49,400 Speaker 4: As you mentioned in my film The Least Six and 214 00:12:49,480 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 4: the Meters, it is really a case and what happens, 215 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 4: how challenging these counters surgencies can be when they become 216 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:57,360 Speaker 4: extended land wards, and I. 217 00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 3: Think people should watch that and. 218 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:02,880 Speaker 4: Be reminded of those things. We often reluctant to look back, 219 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 4: but as they've gone too the holidays, I think we should. 220 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:08,319 Speaker 4: And I feel strongly that the veterans of the Iraq 221 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 4: and Afghanistan wars do not get the credit they deserve 222 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 4: because people have mixed feelings about their war, but that 223 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 4: doesn't take away from the heroism of the young men 224 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 4: and women who fought them for us. 225 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,559 Speaker 2: I was looking at my history notes for my program 226 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 2: this past Saturday morning, Michael, and it was the anniversary 227 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 2: in nineteen seventy nine when the Soviets toppled the Afghan 228 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: government and installed their own puppet and then stayed in 229 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 2: a slog for ten years in Afghanistan and then lo 230 00:13:41,040 --> 00:13:44,839 Speaker 2: and behold ten years later. There we are locked in 231 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: this twenty year battle in Afghanistan. And if we didn't 232 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:53,560 Speaker 2: learn anything from Vietnam at all, we should have learned 233 00:13:53,760 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 2: that Afghanistan the folly of that even going after the 234 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 2: people that were behind nine to eleven, well, it should 235 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 2: have been clear to us especially after the Soviets ten 236 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 2: years of inertia. 237 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,959 Speaker 1: And I mean, don't you think so. Don't you think 238 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: we would have learned better from the example of the Soviets. Oh, well, 239 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:16,560 Speaker 1: we're just going to do it better than they did. 240 00:14:16,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 2: No, we didn't. 241 00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 4: It's hard to learn these lessons. As you point out, 242 00:14:22,640 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 4: they are tough to learn. We could have got in, 243 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 4: tried to kill. 244 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 3: The sound the lot and gotten out. I mean, that 245 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 3: would have been the perfect solution. 246 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 4: We think it's clear in retrospect there are other times 247 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 4: when we could have gotten out too. The way we 248 00:14:37,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 4: finally withdrew was I think a tragedy. But yeah, lessons 249 00:14:45,200 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 4: from war are tough to learn. I don't know how 250 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 4: many it takes. I think it's worth That's why I 251 00:14:50,160 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 4: think it's worth watching our film Lessons to Remeters. We 252 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 4: don't make politically, we don't comment politically. 253 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 3: We just show the battles. But you can see the 254 00:14:57,720 --> 00:15:03,080 Speaker 3: impact on people fighting, of shift and changing political goals 255 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 3: from Washington. So yeah, those are hard wars to fight. 256 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: I hope we don't get involved in a land war 257 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 4: in Venezuela or anywhere else. 258 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 3: That's true. 259 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: So far, Trump has been pretty effective in the way 260 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 4: he's been going at it, so he seems pretty conscious 261 00:15:18,440 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 4: of not being sucked. 262 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:23,680 Speaker 3: Into a long war with unclear goals. So I hope 263 00:15:23,800 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 3: he has learned. 264 00:15:25,520 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 2: Of the infantry men that you interviewed for the last 265 00:15:29,120 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 2: six hundred meters, how much have you followed up with 266 00:15:33,040 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: them who are still around in present day? 267 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 4: Michael, Well, you know, sometimes seventeen years to get this 268 00:15:39,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 4: film on the air, as I mentioned. 269 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 3: And now on Amazon. 270 00:15:42,680 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 4: And we had a screening in Washington where we invited 271 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 4: all veterans that were in the film, and a large 272 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: number came from around the country and it was really 273 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 4: inspiring to see them. I mean, now they're actually middle aged. 274 00:15:53,600 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 4: You know, a lot of time has gone by, but 275 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 4: there remain the same, you know, the wonderful examples of 276 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:05,000 Speaker 4: American in these world men be came manhood, and you 277 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 4: know the one the Marines, especially that we're there. 278 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 3: We're really as. 279 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: Gung ho as they were back in two thousand and four. 280 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 4: You know, they are very funny. They are believers that 281 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 4: if you give them a clear objective, you know they 282 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 4: can achieve it. And they did do that when such 283 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 4: objectives were given to them in Iraq and Afghanistan. 284 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 3: So I mean a lot of them have had interesting lives. 285 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: Your time is done by. 286 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: But they're all of them proud of their service. There's 287 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 4: not any of them that are, you know, extremely disillusioned 288 00:16:38,880 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 4: or anti American or were bitter about it, which is 289 00:16:42,160 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 4: surprising in a way. 290 00:16:44,240 --> 00:16:45,800 Speaker 2: How long is the film. 291 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 4: It's ninety minutes, and there are three battles, the first 292 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 4: battle of Flujah in Marsh, then this against Sunni and 293 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,760 Speaker 4: surgeons in the north. The second battle is Najaff against 294 00:16:57,160 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 4: Shiite surgeons in the south, and then back to the 295 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 4: second attal Flujjah in the north again in November of 296 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 4: two thousand and four. 297 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 3: And you know, these this film has great stories of heroism. 298 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 4: People have always watched and listened to and read stories 299 00:17:12,440 --> 00:17:16,920 Speaker 4: of battles and war, from Homer's Iliad to War John 300 00:17:17,000 --> 00:17:17,840 Speaker 4: Wayne and World War. 301 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:18,840 Speaker 3: Two movies to today. 302 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,640 Speaker 4: And that's because war really test men and you see 303 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 4: their spirit and their their will and ones that suffer 304 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 4: and difficulties. And you know, one of the reasons we 305 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:32,200 Speaker 4: made this film is because these battles are not just 306 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:34,800 Speaker 4: something there's a big focus on technology, but a lot 307 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,439 Speaker 4: of it depends on the heroism of these young men 308 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 4: and women. For example, one marine lieutenant told the story 309 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:52,600 Speaker 4: in n jaff A Splot of his being trapped underground 310 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,480 Speaker 4: under these hotels, and they were encountering an insurgent and 311 00:17:57,640 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 4: such close quarters that neither of them could get out 312 00:17:59,800 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 4: there their automatic their rifles, and so it turned into 313 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 4: a knife fight. They pulled their bayonets, and it ended 314 00:18:05,880 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 4: when the marine was able to stab the insurgent in 315 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 4: the eye. 316 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 3: You know, a brutal, vicious fight. 317 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 4: Not unlike what could have happened hundreds of years ago 318 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,160 Speaker 4: in a rocket or anywhere else. So, although technology is important, 319 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,440 Speaker 4: a lot depends on the valor of these young people 320 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,760 Speaker 4: fighting on our behalf, Michael, So there's a lot of 321 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 4: that in the film. 322 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:29,400 Speaker 2: Michael Pack the director and producer of the Last six 323 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,800 Speaker 2: hundred Meters with us, President of Manifold Productions, and I 324 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,359 Speaker 2: wish a great success with this, and I hope people 325 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 2: who are interested in the bravery and the commitment of 326 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 2: these people who fight on our behalf, so you can 327 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 2: actually see what they were going through and what they 328 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 2: went through. Michael, thank you so much for your time 329 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 2: today and happy New Year. 330 00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 3: Happy to hear to you. Thank you for having me 331 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:55,120 Speaker 3: on your show. 332 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 2: You got it, Joshu Philip from the Epoch Times is 333 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,840 Speaker 2: coming up. I'm Gary Jeff Walker in. This is the 334 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham Show. And if you were you know that 335 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: there are significant power outages in places like Mount Adams. 336 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: Still my work from Duke on when that power could 337 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: be restored. The high winds continue, the sub zero temperatures, 338 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 2: or at least feels that way. We're at twenty one 339 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:26,320 Speaker 2: right now in Kenwood and much colder with the windshill 340 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 2: and some light snow was blown around earlier. What a 341 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 2: way to usher out twenty twenty five, huh, especially after 342 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 2: the weekend that was nice yesterday. Gary Jeff Walker in 343 00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,320 Speaker 2: for Willie. The Bill Cunningham Show continues on this last 344 00:19:41,400 --> 00:19:44,560 Speaker 2: Monday of the year on seven hundred WLW. And our 345 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 2: next guest is somebody I've had on the air multiple 346 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:51,600 Speaker 2: times because he's really that good. He's an investigative reporter 347 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 2: for the Epoch Times and a documentary filmmaker and his 348 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,959 Speaker 2: latest is Truth under Fire and I believe the SubTime 349 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: is the framing of Charlie Kirk. He will correct me 350 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 2: if need be, and he probably will he should. It 351 00:20:06,200 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: was featured at Amfest, the celebration of Charlie Kirk and 352 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 2: his movement, which continues to grow stronger and stronger in 353 00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 2: the wake of his murder. 354 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,959 Speaker 1: Joshua Philip from the Epic Times back with us, Joshua, 355 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 1: how are. 356 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: You doing. 357 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 3: Doing well? 358 00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 6: Thank you? 359 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 7: And yeah, getting close to the New Year's are getting 360 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 7: ready for that? 361 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 2: No doubt? Truth under Fire. Tell me about the documentary 362 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 2: and what you were trying about. 363 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,160 Speaker 7: You got the name right, so thank you very much. 364 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 6: But yeah, it's so. 365 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 7: The documentary was started with that idea that I wanted 366 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 7: to talk about the hip piece machine. There was a 367 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 7: system in place and still is to first to defame people, 368 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 7: to frame them for political purpose, to make people too 369 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 7: afraid to step out. Then it docked them, it releases 370 00:21:01,320 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 7: their private information. Then it organizes against them and TIFA 371 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 7: people showing up the doors that have as people protesting 372 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 7: their events, and sometimes leads to actual violence against them. 373 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:14,120 Speaker 7: In Charlie Kirk's case, I believe led to the death. 374 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 7: I led to the killing of him. But what's not 375 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 7: being discussed by a lot of the public is, you know, 376 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 7: we look at the suspect, we don't we'll see innocenter 377 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 7: guilty but in the suspect right now, people have a 378 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,480 Speaker 7: million conspiracies about you know, who done it. We don't 379 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 7: really know yet. It's still in trial. But I don't 380 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,720 Speaker 7: think anybody's talking about the machine in place that I 381 00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 7: believe marked Charlie Kirk for death. And the documentary aims 382 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 7: to show what that machine is and also goes into 383 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 7: what Charlie Kirk really represented. You know, I knew Charlie, 384 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 7: who's a fantastic guy. I regarded him as a friend. 385 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,080 Speaker 7: It hit me pretty hard, But after his death there 386 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:59,520 Speaker 7: was the beginning of almost a spiritual reawakening in America 387 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:02,639 Speaker 7: that is still going on but is not getting a 388 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 7: lot of attention, and so I wanted to take time 389 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 7: to also recognize that. So the film also shows that 390 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:09,679 Speaker 7: there have been. 391 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: I don't know ten to maybe twenty times to one 392 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:21,160 Speaker 1: hundred times the applications for chapters of Turning Point USA 393 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 1: at college campuses in the wake of Charlie's murder. You 394 00:22:26,200 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: talked about this spiritual reawakening that is happening that is 395 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 1: not being covered by the news. All the focus has 396 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: been I mean today, this morning, there was a hearing 397 00:22:36,359 --> 00:22:40,879 Speaker 1: as to whether there would be cameras allowed in the courtroom, 398 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 1: and Charlie's wife, Erica, is campaigning for those cameras to 399 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: be there. As she mentioned quite plainly, the cameras were 400 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: always on Charlie, and they were on Charlie the day 401 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 1: he was murdered at Utah Valley State Or Yeah, and 402 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: how do you come down on that alone, Joshua, I 403 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: know it's kind of separate subject from what we're talking about, but. 404 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:10,200 Speaker 8: I think, I use. 405 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 7: Cameras are necessary. Yeah, I think the cameras are necessary 406 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 7: because you know, you know, we're in an odd day 407 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 7: and age where let's put a say, all information is 408 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 7: mediated these days unless people can see it firsthand. And 409 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 7: the unfortunate reality is a lot of the mediating voices 410 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:34,239 Speaker 7: are not necessarily honest. So if the media, let's put 411 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 7: a say, if you or I could watch the video, 412 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 7: you know, at times, we'll of course try to have 413 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:43,680 Speaker 7: a reporter in the courtroom regardless of outgoes, but not 414 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 7: everybody can do that unless you or I can watch 415 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 7: the video and see exactly what is said. We'll have 416 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 7: to rely on the interpretations of what was said from 417 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,600 Speaker 7: other people. We'll have to go buy CNN or MSNBC 418 00:23:56,880 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 7: or New York Times or you know, a podcaster maybe, 419 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 7: and even some of the independent journalists have their own agendas, frankly, 420 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 7: and so in order to really know what was said, 421 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,880 Speaker 7: in order to really understand the evidence presented, most people 422 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 7: are not going to go and read the entire list 423 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,640 Speaker 7: of charges. Most people are going to read the entire 424 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,440 Speaker 7: case law. They're going to depend on our people to 425 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 7: do it for them. But if you have a video, 426 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 7: they're more likely to watch it. The video will more 427 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:30,159 Speaker 7: accurately present and have their social understanding of what actually 428 00:24:30,200 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 7: took place, what led to the killing of Charlie, and 429 00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 7: the evidence presented on the suspect. 430 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 2: We got you. Let's switch gears here for a second. 431 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: We'll get back to truth under fire, I promise before 432 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 2: we're done here. How do you feel about the coverage 433 00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:55,680 Speaker 2: of the obvious and looked over fraud in the state 434 00:24:55,720 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 2: of Minnesota. They're suggesting as much as nine billion dollars 435 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 2: has been defrauded from the taxpayers in Minnesota UH, mostly 436 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 2: to UH these Somali organizations, Somali terrorists, and and lavish 437 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 2: expenses for the people who stole the money from Minnesota taxpayers. 438 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:25,359 Speaker 2: Right under Governor Waltz's nos that is getting probably more 439 00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: coverage for some reason, uh than ordinarily it would. Do 440 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 2: you think, do you think it's getting the right amount 441 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,840 Speaker 2: of coverage? Though I know Fox News has been just 442 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: laser focused on it, But how much how much time 443 00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 2: is the other alphabet network spending on it and the 444 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 2: the other sources that you mentioned earlier. 445 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 7: So my view on what's happening, but uh, is probably 446 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:58,959 Speaker 7: a lot different from you're gonna what you're gonna hear 447 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 7: anywhere else. And I would say that my view is 448 00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 7: now slowly showing itself to be true. What you're watching 449 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 7: in Minnesota is a test of prosecuting local officials who 450 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 7: have allowed for migrant fraud to take place all across 451 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 7: the United States. The Somali community is now being accused 452 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 7: You mentioned of at least nine billion so the summer 453 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 7: saying up to fifteen billion dollars in fraud. But the 454 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 7: reality is we don't even know. And it turns out 455 00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:35,359 Speaker 7: similar forms of just the Somali fraud is being found 456 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:37,320 Speaker 7: in other parts of the country. The gay I believe, 457 00:26:37,359 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 7: I saw Ohio they even found some recently. But here's 458 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:48,280 Speaker 7: the bigger part. Local government officials are being incriminated for 459 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 7: their involvement in it, whether it was turning a blind guy, 460 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 7: whether it was telling people, don't go after them, don't 461 00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:57,600 Speaker 7: investigate them, don't prosecute them, whether it was creating the 462 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 7: policies that allowed the fraud to happen. Governor Walls and 463 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 7: Rashid Ta Leab and local officials, they're all really facing 464 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:10,359 Speaker 7: a lot of pressure right now. The bigger picture is this, 465 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:12,480 Speaker 7: which I don't think you're going to hear anywhere else, 466 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 7: just that you're going to hear it eventually, but not 467 00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 7: just yet. And I'll tell you all right now, this 468 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:22,639 Speaker 7: is why it matters. The exact forms of fraud, the 469 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 7: exact protections, the exact same policies have been happening all 470 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 7: across the United States through various organizations and migrant groups 471 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 7: and illegal alien communities. And if they can prosecute not 472 00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:42,240 Speaker 7: only are the people involved with it and retake some 473 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:47,320 Speaker 7: of that money, but also prosecute potentially even local government officials, 474 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 7: which they're talking about doing in Minnesota right now at 475 00:27:50,000 --> 00:27:51,760 Speaker 7: the very least criminally investigating them. 476 00:27:52,800 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 6: What will that do? 477 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,959 Speaker 7: That will probably get sim of those officials out of office, 478 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 7: It'll make the entire political party look bad, especially ding 479 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 7: to the midterms. They could put someone who in prison. Frankly, 480 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:08,960 Speaker 7: it will inform the American public of how badly they've 481 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 7: been robbed by fraud. It will justify the deportations, it 482 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 7: will delegitimize sanctuary city policies, and it could be the 483 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 7: wedge that Trump needs effectively to justify, prosecute, and overturn 484 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 7: a lot of the systems that's been blocking him from 485 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 7: doing all that. I believe Minnesota is a testing ground 486 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 7: of what you're going to see happen all across the country. 487 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,800 Speaker 2: Oh, I hope that's correct. As as a taxpayer and 488 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 2: someone who's not participating in the fraud, I mean, yeah, well. 489 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,920 Speaker 7: If you're involved in the fraud Gipogo, you know, the 490 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 7: run while you can exactly. I hear Salia, I hear 491 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,200 Speaker 7: Samalia is great. 492 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 6: This time of here, it's a night and sunny, you 493 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: know problem. 494 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,200 Speaker 2: I'm sure. I'm sure illin Omar is just chomping at 495 00:28:53,240 --> 00:28:57,760 Speaker 2: the bit to get back there. On another front, communist 496 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 2: China is ratcheting up press You're on Taiwan again in 497 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,760 Speaker 2: response to the US putting the clamps on Venezuela. The 498 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 2: oil blockade that President Trump has uh has instituted and 499 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 2: China Communist China has always wanted to retake Taiwan. I 500 00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 2: think it's less likely they do with a president like 501 00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:25,600 Speaker 2: Trump in office. So I mean, is it naive to 502 00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:30,239 Speaker 2: blame communists China ratcheting up the pressure on Taiwan, I mean, 503 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 2: just as saber rattling because we are going after Venezuelan 504 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,080 Speaker 2: oil and trying to shut down that regime there. What's up. 505 00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 7: No, I think it's actually more significant. I think I 506 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 7: think China, the Chinese Communist Party, might try to take Taiwan. 507 00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,360 Speaker 7: They have a very small window before America rebuild its 508 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:56,040 Speaker 7: manufacturing base. Sijing teams made Advisor previously told him that 509 00:29:56,160 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 7: if they want to if they want to take Taiwan, 510 00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 7: America needs to be involved in four wars including Taiwan. 511 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:02,360 Speaker 7: They wanted to war with Russia, a warre in the 512 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 7: Middle East like think Youran, and they wanted to war 513 00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,800 Speaker 7: in Latin America. They wanted to actually Brazil to start 514 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,400 Speaker 7: war under Lula the first time. Lula is currently backing 515 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:15,400 Speaker 7: Maduro and so is you know, Columbia's even involved. So 516 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 7: if they can have a tries country force trying to 517 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 7: challenge America. That might be the proper division of American forces. 518 00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 7: They need to clear the way for it. But I 519 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 7: would also and they have a very limited time until 520 00:30:29,040 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 7: America gets ship building capabilities, rare earth minerals, steel, all 521 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 7: the industries we need to have wartime production, which we 522 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 7: currently do not have but is being built. They have 523 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 7: a very small window of time if they want to 524 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,560 Speaker 7: do it. But I would actually say that venezuel is 525 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 7: also not about oil in China's interest, It's about them 526 00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 7: in Roe doctrine. Chavez, the guy came before Maduro and 527 00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 7: who handpicked Maduro, actually worked with Fidel Castro to basically 528 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 7: push America out of Latin America, and a lot of 529 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 7: that was correctly meant to overturn them in Road doctrine 530 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,960 Speaker 7: to stop America from enforcing like a regional security for 531 00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,000 Speaker 7: all of Latin America. If they want to restore them 532 00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 7: in Road doctrine and American presence in Latin America, they 533 00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:16,280 Speaker 7: have to overthrow Maduro. China was they use that as 534 00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 7: their beachhead, and they effectively have been dominating Latin America 535 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 7: in America instead through the Delton Road initiative. And so 536 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,720 Speaker 7: this is I think more of a battle over who 537 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 7: controls the region, and China is basically hedging its bets 538 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 7: right now, saying, well, gee, we need. 539 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 3: To at least take the Asia Pacific. 540 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,080 Speaker 7: We have a very small window time to re establish 541 00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 7: our dominance, our order, because America is running circles around us. 542 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,360 Speaker 7: They don't have a wartime production. This may be our 543 00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 7: only chance, and I think they might, more so than 544 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 7: ever before. They might try to do. 545 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,320 Speaker 6: Something right now. 546 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: So twenty twenty six could be the year that communists 547 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: China makes their move. 548 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 7: They might not have the ability to do it or win, 549 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:06,240 Speaker 7: but it might be the best opportunity they have because 550 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 7: the window for it will will go away. 551 00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 2: And we've seen some things kind of turn around in 552 00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 2: Latin America, haven't we uh in regards to Panama and 553 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:22,600 Speaker 2: the Canal, in regards to Venezua Argentina, and so there 554 00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:31,040 Speaker 2: there is some pro American pro liberty presence in Latin 555 00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 2: America in South America to kind of counter what Maduro 556 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: and Colombia and Brazil are doing, isn't there? 557 00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 3: There is? 558 00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 7: So in Brazil Lula Desulva, who's back in power, work 559 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 7: together for deel Castro also to establish what was called 560 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 7: the four alseal Paula, the form of sal Paula, and 561 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 7: that facilitated alongside what Jabez was doing with also Castro. 562 00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,120 Speaker 7: And and by the way, Castro was also i know, 563 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 7: to bring in a lot of the drug tray. Castro 564 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 7: was kind of the you know, the one who really 565 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:05,280 Speaker 7: brought a lot of the a lot of US into 566 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 7: Latin Americas because they were they were the front the 567 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 7: front line for the communist incursion into Latin America. 568 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:14,360 Speaker 6: But they need the regional allies. 569 00:33:15,040 --> 00:33:17,440 Speaker 7: But what Lula did was they built the four House Aupaula, 570 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 7: which was a form of intergovernmental groups parties, even narco 571 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 7: Terroristbally I think a shining panther Fark was part of them, 572 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,960 Speaker 7: a corich one to to facilitate what they call a 573 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,680 Speaker 7: pink wave, which was the socialist government takeover of most 574 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,840 Speaker 7: countries in the region between the late nineties and early 575 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 7: two thousands and and a lot of that had to 576 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:44,120 Speaker 7: do with money, political strategy, the whole nine yeards. Drugs 577 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 7: were part of it. Although they wouldn't openly admit that 578 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 7: drugs are a way to plant your candidate because you 579 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 7: use corruption effectively as a weapon. 580 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,640 Speaker 6: It's a political tool. 581 00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:58,720 Speaker 7: If somebody runs against your guy, you have the cartels 582 00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:02,120 Speaker 7: kill him, very simple. You win the election. The guy 583 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960 Speaker 7: you had manipulates the law to clear the way for 584 00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 7: whatever the heck you want politically, and and and they 585 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 7: used that effectively to push the US out of the region. 586 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 7: The oil trade was kind of a way to spread 587 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 7: the wealth of Venezuela to facilitate to to support the 588 00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,680 Speaker 7: socialist governments taking power. 589 00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:23,040 Speaker 2: And if Trump cuts and if Trump is able to 590 00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,759 Speaker 2: cut that off, then then they have you know, it's 591 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 2: kind of like Iran by uh and that those are 592 00:34:29,960 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 2: kind of inexorably tied together too. Iran and Venezuela. They 593 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,840 Speaker 2: are in that way because if you cut off the oil, 594 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 2: you cut off their money supply and their ability to 595 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 2: continue to to dominate in their regas. 596 00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 7: That's accurate, Yeah, that's accurate. So they're not ideologically motivated. 597 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,280 Speaker 7: They're financial motivated. 598 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 8: You know. 599 00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 7: The cartels are not like the Taliban where they're going 600 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,239 Speaker 7: to you know, die for gi Hot. They're dying because 601 00:34:57,239 --> 00:34:59,040 Speaker 7: they want to make money. And so if you if 602 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 7: you make the risk greater than the reward, their ideology 603 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,000 Speaker 7: is not strong enough to keep fighting as well as 604 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:08,640 Speaker 7: basically an oil country and then a drug country post 605 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:11,800 Speaker 7: the oil. The drugs are just a political tool for 606 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:16,880 Speaker 7: using corruption is a weapon, is a weaponized tool to 607 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:18,280 Speaker 7: create government power. 608 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,160 Speaker 2: Joshua Philip, once again, you're brilliant. I'm glad that you're 609 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: doing great work as an investigative reporter for the Epic 610 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: Times and with your documentaries, the latest documentary Truth under Fire, 611 00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 2: the Framing of Charlie Kirk and josh Thank you and 612 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:35,799 Speaker 2: happy New Year, sir oh. 613 00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:36,400 Speaker 3: It is a pleasure. 614 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 6: Happy New Year, you bet you. 615 00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 2: Coming up after one o'clock War in the United States 616 00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:48,680 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty six, a guy who says it's prophesied 617 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,920 Speaker 2: Pastor Mark Bilts from Elshadai Ministries coming up after the 618 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 2: news at one. I'm Gary Jeff Walker in this is 619 00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 2: the Bill Cunningham show Stone Marathon this year. Happy ye're here. 620 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 2: Gary Jeff Walker is sitting in for Willie on this 621 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:09,600 Speaker 2: last Monday of the year. And in this half hour 622 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: we'll be discussing maybe what President Trump and Benjamin Netanya, 623 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 2: who are discussing in mar A Lago right now, as 624 00:36:18,719 --> 00:36:21,520 Speaker 2: far as Gaza and what to do, what to do? 625 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 2: We might be discussing America at War, which our next 626 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:32,440 Speaker 2: guest says, is either going to happen or is happening 627 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:34,919 Speaker 2: right now. He's written a book about it. It's both 628 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 2: based on biblical prophecy and his expertise on the Middle East. 629 00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,720 Speaker 2: As you heard during the news if you were listening 630 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:47,560 Speaker 2: or didn't know this already, Iran's president has declared full 631 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 2: out war on Europe, Israel, the United States and will 632 00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,440 Speaker 2: twenty twenty six be a year of more war to 633 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 2: try and answer those questions and break it down along 634 00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: with the strike on Nigerian Isis. It was killing Christians 635 00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: that has been killing Christians at a record rate, especially 636 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 2: in the northwest part of that country, where they have 637 00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,800 Speaker 2: a stronghold or at least had a stronghold before the 638 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: Christmas Day bombings by President Trump. From Elshadai Ministri's pastor 639 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:25,880 Speaker 2: Mark Bilts, how are you doing, Pastor Bilts? 640 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,880 Speaker 6: Oh, I'm doing fantastic. I just love being on your program. 641 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,280 Speaker 2: Well, I just love having you here. So first and foremost, 642 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 2: tell me about this America at War book that you 643 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 2: and I have talked about in the past, and it's 644 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,040 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four to twenty twenty. 645 00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 6: Six right through twenty twenty six to twenty twenty seven. 646 00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 6: Actually it's all through this next year, so. 647 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,719 Speaker 2: We are in that period of time. Are we already 648 00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:53,200 Speaker 2: at war? 649 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 3: Oh? 650 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,160 Speaker 6: Absolutely, we're at war. Of course, it always depends how 651 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,840 Speaker 6: you want to war. But I really see, and I 652 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 6: don't know if you've heard just it's just come out 653 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 6: a video where the Iranians are on the streets having 654 00:38:09,520 --> 00:38:15,239 Speaker 6: mass riots and the Iranian government has begged Arab full 655 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 6: Islamic Arab governments to come help them quiet this. So 656 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,240 Speaker 6: they're not as tough as they think they are. Something 657 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 6: big could be happening. 658 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:28,480 Speaker 1: This very weak right, but they have declared full out 659 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: war on the United States, Europe and Israel. 660 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:32,759 Speaker 2: And we already knew that. 661 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 8: To me. 662 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 2: Iran declared war in the United States in nineteen seventy 663 00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: nine when they took over our embassy, you know, sovereign soil, 664 00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:46,080 Speaker 2: took American hostages and held them for four hund forty 665 00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:48,840 Speaker 2: four days. That was a declaration of war that I 666 00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 2: don't believe the United States ever answered sufficiently. 667 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 6: Do you? You are absolutely correct, But they are Islamic 668 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 6: terror us. There's a radical Islamis and of course you're 669 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 6: moderate islamis As you heard just the other day, Somali 670 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 6: land was recognized by the nation of Israel, and oh, 671 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040 Speaker 6: my goodness, Tetter was all upset. Saudi Arabia is all 672 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 6: upset that here's a Maslem nation that is a precative 673 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:18,680 Speaker 6: of Israel. 674 00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:26,360 Speaker 2: So how how does the Bible tell this? Because I 675 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 2: know you use a lot of biblical prophecy in your predictions. 676 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:37,320 Speaker 6: Oh. Absolutely, it comes down from Exodus chapter seventeen, verse sixteen. 677 00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 6: There was a nation that first attached Israel and they 678 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:46,000 Speaker 6: left Egypt called him Amelek, and God himself said he 679 00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 6: will have war with Amelek in every generation. Well, last 680 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:55,759 Speaker 6: generation was Hitler. This generation, the Amelek is Iran. The 681 00:39:55,960 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 6: very word Amelek means a nation who chops up body 682 00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 6: parts toughs off heads, which is exactly what Hamas did 683 00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,240 Speaker 6: back on October seventh of twenty twenty three. 684 00:40:07,480 --> 00:40:11,120 Speaker 2: And isis has been famous for doing the same thing. 685 00:40:12,560 --> 00:40:15,840 Speaker 6: Absolutely, that's that is the spirit, And I really believe 686 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:19,719 Speaker 6: prophetically this is the last battle with Amelek before the 687 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,240 Speaker 6: Messiah comes. We are definitely living in these last days, 688 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 6: all right. 689 00:40:25,239 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: So, but like you said, it depends on how you 690 00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 1: want to interpret the word war there was there. There 691 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:36,160 Speaker 1: have been plots foiled, there have been plots perpetrated. Are 692 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: these attacks just little battles in this war that continues 693 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: that we're seeing the terrorist attacks in the light? 694 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 3: Oh? 695 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:47,719 Speaker 6: I think so. I mean even right now, you have 696 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 6: the left against the right, that kind of a war 697 00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:53,719 Speaker 6: going on. You have the war against illegal immigrants going on. 698 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,400 Speaker 6: I mean, there's a lot of you know, civil so 699 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 6: to speak, type of wars that are going on. We're 700 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:04,040 Speaker 6: seeing bulls. But I really believe the problem with the 701 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:07,239 Speaker 6: Nigeria thing that's happened. I don't know people know this, 702 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 6: but not only is it a wan Christians, there's also 703 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880 Speaker 6: a war on moderate Muslims. Over sixty thousand Muslims have 704 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 6: also been killed. What it is, it's radical Islam that 705 00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 6: is causing death and it's happening worldwide. We see the 706 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 6: huge election of people here in the United States Islamis 707 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 6: that have been recently voted in, and we see Sharia 708 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,520 Speaker 6: law that's coming in the city south of Dallas where 709 00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:39,160 Speaker 6: they're trying to implement that a whole Sharia city. 710 00:41:40,719 --> 00:41:44,440 Speaker 2: Okay, it wouldn't surprise me if it we're in Minnesota 711 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 2: or Michigan when there's a large Islamic population. But if 712 00:41:49,360 --> 00:41:53,680 Speaker 2: you say things like this, Mark Bilts, you're instantly cast 713 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: as an islamophobe. You're instantly you're instantly portrayed as someone 714 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:03,400 Speaker 2: who thinks every Muslim is a terrorist. And that's not 715 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:05,640 Speaker 2: what you're saying, That's not what I believe. 716 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,840 Speaker 3: But it is exactly I said that it's. 717 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:11,759 Speaker 6: Muslims for Heaven. 718 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:15,360 Speaker 2: Right, exactly. I mean Hitler killed lots of Germans that 719 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: weren't Jewish, exactly. 720 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:23,280 Speaker 6: I'm not an islamophobe at all. I am a phobia 721 00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 6: against people getting their hips toped off. Okay, that's what 722 00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:27,360 Speaker 6: I worry about. 723 00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,760 Speaker 2: Not a big fan radical Islam. 724 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 6: And there's nothing wrong with being a radical islamophobe. 725 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:38,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt, no doubt about it. So how do 726 00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:44,320 Speaker 2: we how do we preserve ourselves in a time of 727 00:42:44,440 --> 00:42:48,840 Speaker 2: war like this? How do we protect ourselves? How do 728 00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: we fight the battle that is coming or is already here. 729 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 6: Oh, that's that's a that's a great question because I 730 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:57,239 Speaker 6: think we have to realize it's more than a physical war. 731 00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,880 Speaker 6: It's a spiritual war that's going on. It's a war 732 00:43:00,120 --> 00:43:03,800 Speaker 6: between life and death. And this is where people have 733 00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:06,879 Speaker 6: to see it. Well. Too many Christians back down. They're 734 00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:11,440 Speaker 6: afraid to fight. And I really believe that this is 735 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 6: the time when we really have to stand up. This 736 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:17,200 Speaker 6: is why the whole world bows to radical Islam because 737 00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:20,799 Speaker 6: they're afraid. I'm not afraid. I'm almost died so many 738 00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,319 Speaker 6: times I've lost count I'm seventy years old. I've had 739 00:43:23,360 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 6: guns at my head twice, been a major car accidents, 740 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 6: plain accidents, and I tell you I almost eat by 741 00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 6: lions in South Africa. I'm not afraid of anything. I 742 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:34,760 Speaker 6: realize if it's not my time. 743 00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 3: Is not going to happen. 744 00:43:35,560 --> 00:43:38,680 Speaker 6: So I'm ready to do everything we can. 745 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 2: Uh Ephesians six ten. Tony talks about putting on the 746 00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 2: armor of God. And that's what you say, And it's 747 00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: not just a physical battle, a kinetic battle that you 748 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,200 Speaker 2: think of when a lot of people think of war, 749 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,080 Speaker 2: but it's a spiritual battle. It says, be strong in 750 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 2: the Lord, in his mighty power. Put on the full 751 00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,760 Speaker 2: armor of God so that you can take your stand 752 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:05,840 Speaker 2: against the devil's schemes. Our struggle is not against flesh 753 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,520 Speaker 2: and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against 754 00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 2: the powers, of this dark world and against the spiritual 755 00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 2: forces of evil in the heavenly realms. Therefore, put on 756 00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:16,680 Speaker 2: the full armor of God. 757 00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,360 Speaker 6: There you go. And this is why the Church is 758 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:24,719 Speaker 6: settlements understanding that burst because they see the armor of 759 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,600 Speaker 6: God is some Roman soldier costume. It's always been cast 760 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 6: that way, but you just wear spiritual warfare. I have 761 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 6: in one of my books the armor of God really 762 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 6: is the priestly garments. The priestly garments in Hebrew were 763 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 6: designed for warfare, and the breastplate wasn't a Roman soldier's breastplate. 764 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,439 Speaker 6: It was the breastplate of the high priest for Heaven's sake. 765 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:49,120 Speaker 6: And so the church has been That's why there's so many, 766 00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 6: so much friendly fire and the church, they're all out 767 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:55,080 Speaker 6: there killing each other instead of praying for one another. 768 00:44:55,960 --> 00:45:00,279 Speaker 2: So what else do you talk about in America war 769 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,719 Speaker 2: the book that I mentioned at the top of. 770 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 6: The interview, Yes, exactly. And this is why people need 771 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,520 Speaker 6: to get it now, because we're still going through twenty 772 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 6: twenty six. I'm the only one on this planet who 773 00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:15,040 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty three said that I Ran would attack Israel. 774 00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,680 Speaker 6: In April of twenty twenty four, even mentioned a month 775 00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 6: and the day is the very day that I ran 776 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,360 Speaker 6: started this. But anyway, I'm saying there's going to be 777 00:45:25,440 --> 00:45:27,480 Speaker 6: war here. I really believe you're going to see China 778 00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:31,000 Speaker 6: attacking Taiwan next year. I think you could see North 779 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:34,360 Speaker 6: Korea attacking South Korea next year. I think with the 780 00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 6: elections here this next year, you're going to see a 781 00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:40,680 Speaker 6: whole lot of civil warfare going on, and people need 782 00:45:40,760 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 6: to get rety, they need to be prepared. 783 00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,680 Speaker 2: Do do you think that, for example, the assassination of 784 00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk was a part of this war. 785 00:45:50,920 --> 00:45:56,640 Speaker 6: The spiritual warfare? Absolutely absolutely. The climate is changing, and 786 00:45:56,760 --> 00:45:58,919 Speaker 6: I see some Christians as starting. 787 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:01,160 Speaker 3: To rise up with all of this. 788 00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,000 Speaker 6: So I'm really see the spiritual environment has changed, and 789 00:46:06,120 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 6: I think you're going to see it more, you know, 790 00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,160 Speaker 6: in another week or so. Once twenty twenty six hits 791 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:16,000 Speaker 6: and people start focusing ahead, looking toward the elections and 792 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 6: everything that's going on. Even with Iran and Israel. There 793 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:25,440 Speaker 6: is a total lunar eclipse coming up on Perum in March, 794 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:29,160 Speaker 6: and I believe that's another indication we're very well could 795 00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:33,120 Speaker 6: see a war with Israel Iran in the US involved. 796 00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,960 Speaker 2: Today President Trump is meeting with Benjamin Nett and Yahoo. 797 00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,919 Speaker 2: You talk about the physical kinetic wars that are going 798 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 2: on and the battle that continues against Hamas. Why hasn't 799 00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,879 Speaker 2: Israel been allowed to go ahead and just totally take 800 00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 2: out Jimas in Gaza? Do you think? 801 00:46:53,000 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 3: Oh Man? 802 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:54,360 Speaker 9: Politics? 803 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 6: Politics? You know, And my concern for Trump is that 804 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,960 Speaker 6: he caves in and allows Turkey and Cutter to bring 805 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:04,239 Speaker 6: in troops because they're not going to rebuild Gospa, They're 806 00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,399 Speaker 6: going to rebuild Moss and so I have a big 807 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,920 Speaker 6: concern that our States Department and our government may allow 808 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 6: Hutter to come in, which Israel will not allow. So 809 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,360 Speaker 6: I just hope that Trump doesn't cave in the terrorists. 810 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: Do you think that it was a bad idea for 811 00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,240 Speaker 2: President Trump to make deals with all these Middle Eastern 812 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 2: countries to try and end this conflict with Iran and 813 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,560 Speaker 2: the further contract conflict with Hamas and Hezballah. 814 00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 6: I don't think there's anything wrong with it as long 815 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 6: as he stays within biblical guidelines. In my book, and 816 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,200 Speaker 6: this is what it's so important. What most Christians can 817 00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 6: be deceived by is the fact that King Solomon was 818 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,279 Speaker 6: a type of Antichrist, not Christ. He even was the 819 00:47:56,400 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 6: first one who offered to Israel and half make a 820 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,480 Speaker 6: two states illusion. He was willing to give half of 821 00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,840 Speaker 6: the cities in Galilee to Hiram, king of Tire, for 822 00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 6: Heaven's sake. Uh So Solomon made peace, Yeah, but he 823 00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:18,280 Speaker 6: wasn't a good king. He made peace through making unbiblical covenants. 824 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:23,960 Speaker 2: So the wisdom of Solomon wasn't necessarily biblical wisdom, is 825 00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:24,600 Speaker 2: what you're saying. 826 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,719 Speaker 6: It was horrible. As a matter of fact, you do 827 00:48:27,800 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 6: on revelation it says, here's wisdom. The number of his name, 828 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:33,920 Speaker 6: you know, is six six six. Well, guess what is 829 00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 6: recorded in the first King's four The amount of gold 830 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,359 Speaker 6: that came into Solomon every year was six six, six 831 00:48:40,719 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 6: hundred talents of goals. There is a definite connection between 832 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 6: Solomon as an Antichrist not a Christ. And in my 833 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 6: I have several books, one of them decoding the Antichrist, 834 00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 6: or I talk about that. 835 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: All right. So but you're saying there are several Antichrists, 836 00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:58,879 Speaker 2: there's not just one. 837 00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:02,040 Speaker 6: Well, yeah, and see the apostle John wrote in the 838 00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 6: Third John that all the Antichrist came from within the body, 839 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:09,640 Speaker 6: within the Church. People keep thinking that the Antichrist is 840 00:49:09,719 --> 00:49:11,759 Speaker 6: going to be a Muslim. Now he's going to be 841 00:49:11,800 --> 00:49:14,960 Speaker 6: a professing Christian. And I have a new book coming 842 00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:18,680 Speaker 6: out with chrismon June called The Final Tyrant and explain 843 00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:21,760 Speaker 6: how the Antichrist is going to be a believer, supposedly 844 00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 6: a fake Christian and so that's why the church is. 845 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:26,720 Speaker 9: Going to be deceived. 846 00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 6: Who would be deceived by a muddler Antichrist? For Heaven's sake, 847 00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 6: that's like saying, if you got one hundred dollars bill 848 00:49:33,080 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 6: with itold a face on it, you would fall for it. 849 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 6: How dumb? 850 00:49:36,719 --> 00:49:36,799 Speaker 3: Well. 851 00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: I've always said that the devil won't be some ugly 852 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:45,279 Speaker 1: fire spitting beast, you got it it, It'll be a 853 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: beautiful woman in a pair of American jeans. 854 00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,439 Speaker 6: No, they're very well good. But the key is they're 855 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 6: going to want a two state solution. 856 00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,680 Speaker 2: That is, they keep talking about it, Yeah, keep talking 857 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,640 Speaker 2: about it, and this is that that that's never gonna 858 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:08,880 Speaker 2: work because no one side wants the eradication of Israel 859 00:50:09,239 --> 00:50:12,400 Speaker 2: and the death of all Jews, and the other side 860 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,960 Speaker 2: just wants to live in peace. Those two, those two 861 00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:17,120 Speaker 2: are not compatible. 862 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, That's why they say, if Israel were to 863 00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:22,440 Speaker 6: lay down their arms, it would be no more Israel. 864 00:50:22,480 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 6: If i'm you know, if I'm lost down their arms, 865 00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,560 Speaker 6: there would be peace. I just appreciate you and your 866 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,960 Speaker 6: knowledge of all of this. This is awesome, all right. 867 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,480 Speaker 2: I really don't know anything. That's why people like you on. 868 00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:33,879 Speaker 3: Mark. 869 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: I'm I'm learning at the feet of the master. 870 00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:38,239 Speaker 3: Here. 871 00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:42,879 Speaker 2: Mark Biltz is pastor El Shaudi Ministries. Where can people 872 00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:43,560 Speaker 2: find out more? 873 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 6: Mark esm dot us for Elschadi Ministries e sm dot 874 00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 6: us and they can go to Amazon and put in 875 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,320 Speaker 6: Mark Biltson. They'll see all the different books. 876 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:58,480 Speaker 2: All right, fantastic. The latest one is America at War correct, Yeah, yes, sir, 877 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,520 Speaker 2: twenty four to twenty and you say into twenty. 878 00:51:01,320 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 6: Seven, oh, all the way through twenty twenty six. That 879 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 6: what I'm saying, not at the beginning of twenty twenty six. 880 00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:09,360 Speaker 2: But through the end of the t Well what happens 881 00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 2: after that? 882 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,280 Speaker 6: Well, I have other books, the Final Tyrant coming out 883 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:19,560 Speaker 6: in tune. The other thing that I just don't believe 884 00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 6: it or not. I've just written the entire New Testament 885 00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,440 Speaker 6: in Hebrew. Oh wow, and I have it in Hebrew 886 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,920 Speaker 6: with the Hebrew transliteration, a first ever where people can 887 00:51:30,000 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 6: learn to speak Hebrew through reading the New Testament. And 888 00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:36,240 Speaker 6: then I made a lot of corrections from the King James. 889 00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:40,360 Speaker 6: But what's amazing about it. I have QR codes through it, 890 00:51:40,440 --> 00:51:42,920 Speaker 6: and so well, the Bible comes alive. You literally put 891 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 6: your phone over the book over a QR code and 892 00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 6: a video pops up where I teached for about ten minutes, 893 00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 6: or commentaries, yeah, or even the pictures come alive. You 894 00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 6: put your the phone over the QR code and the 895 00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:55,600 Speaker 6: art even moves. 896 00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:59,160 Speaker 2: That's wild, Okay, I'll look for that. Mark Belts pastor, 897 00:51:59,280 --> 00:52:04,399 Speaker 2: Mark Built's, Billshaudi ministries eesm dot us correct. 898 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,560 Speaker 6: Yes, yes, correct, and if you email me, I'll give 899 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 6: you one of those books. 900 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: All right, thank you so much. Happy New Year. Maybe 901 00:52:14,080 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 2: first student report of the day coming up as we continue, 902 00:52:17,080 --> 00:52:19,480 Speaker 2: I'm Gary Jeff Walker and for Bill Cunningham on The 903 00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 2: Bill Cunningham Show. 904 00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,040 Speaker 10: Three hundred and fifty pounds. Burrow throws, Cody Ford catches, 905 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 10: He's down. 906 00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,720 Speaker 6: To the fifteen, the ten. 907 00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:29,600 Speaker 2: The five. 908 00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:37,000 Speaker 11: He tackled around the three yard line, almost a big 909 00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:42,520 Speaker 11: man TD for the all time highlight reel as Burrow 910 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 11: threw it to Cody Ford and the wooly mammoth began 911 00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 11: running down the near sideline. 912 00:52:53,000 --> 00:52:57,319 Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, I'm broadcasting. 913 00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:05,880 Speaker 1: So we got Jamar Chase, we got g Higgins, we 914 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:10,680 Speaker 1: got Josebach yep, we got Koseki yep. No offense, no 915 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: off we got Cody four, Chase Brown. Hold on, okay, 916 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:17,680 Speaker 1: I've got a bunch of people that can test JP 917 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:21,080 Speaker 1: Ryan if he's not too badly hurt. And now add 918 00:53:21,320 --> 00:53:24,640 Speaker 1: Cody Ford to the list of players. 919 00:53:25,200 --> 00:53:27,839 Speaker 11: Something I've never been a part of, and today will 920 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,000 Speaker 11: be with me for a long time, if not for 921 00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 11: having How. 922 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,000 Speaker 1: How long before we see Cody Ford lining up at 923 00:53:34,120 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: full back and doing a refrigerator Perry act for the 924 00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,319 Speaker 1: I thought they were going to do it when they 925 00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:45,239 Speaker 1: when they are at the three judge, you know, hand 926 00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:48,840 Speaker 1: the ball off to Cody, but that Taylor said I 927 00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: would to do that. So maybe this week they'll have 928 00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,600 Speaker 1: something up their sleeve and they get out to a 929 00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: big lead, maybe a cap and off of the Cody 930 00:53:56,920 --> 00:53:58,040 Speaker 1: Ford touchdown run. 931 00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 2: Perhaps correct night. 932 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:04,279 Speaker 1: Harry Jeffy steot Reporter is a proud service every local 933 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:08,960 Speaker 1: temp Star heating and air conditioning dealers. Tempstar quality you 934 00:54:09,000 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: could feel in beautiful Southeastern Indiana called Joe x Steed 935 00:54:12,320 --> 00:54:14,440 Speaker 1: at x Stein eating cool to get eight one, two, 936 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:22,640 Speaker 1: nine three two twenty twenty six forts Roxy must be 937 00:54:23,080 --> 00:54:28,120 Speaker 1: taking the time off, got too much Christmas. That must 938 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,920 Speaker 1: be his brother, her brother. Bengals up. They brought to 939 00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: you by good spirits, winding tobacco and party Town. Everything 940 00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,960 Speaker 1: you need to ring in the new year with thirteen 941 00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,800 Speaker 1: locations in northern Kentucky. Bengals get weak for that season 942 00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,040 Speaker 1: finale against the Browns and more to night on Bengals 943 00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: line at six oh five, you're on seven hundred WLW. 944 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:47,640 Speaker 1: Can you believe the Brown's taking care of the Steelers? 945 00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:47,920 Speaker 2: Got that? 946 00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,279 Speaker 1: Yes, with everything on the narcial end of that one too, 947 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:54,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, I know it's always in an AFC North game. 948 00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:59,720 Speaker 2: So now it's the it's what the Steelers. I'll be quiet, 949 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: man and answer your question so I can get the work. 950 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: Thank you Steelers and Ravens Sunday the Alley Sunday Night, 951 00:55:07,000 --> 00:55:10,280 Speaker 2: the last game of the regular season in the national 952 00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:13,600 Speaker 2: football side. It all for all of the the AFC 953 00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,240 Speaker 2: North marbles. 954 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,320 Speaker 9: And that's how it should be. 955 00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,160 Speaker 2: And so that'd bes said, I'll shut up and open 956 00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:20,759 Speaker 2: it up for questions. Thank you, coach. 957 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,800 Speaker 1: College football, Cincinnati Bearcats have hired David Roe as the 958 00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: team's new cornerbacks coach. Roe spent the last two season Rutgers. 959 00:55:28,719 --> 00:55:31,160 Speaker 1: Of course, Gary jeff As, you know, the Bearcats are 960 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 1: going to take on Navy this Friday in the Liberty 961 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 1: Bowl in Memphis. 962 00:55:36,080 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 2: Did I know that? Yes? Okay? 963 00:55:38,080 --> 00:55:41,960 Speaker 1: Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman, of potential for the NFL 964 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 1: coaching vacancies, says no to the NFL. He's going to 965 00:55:46,920 --> 00:55:51,640 Speaker 1: return to the Fighting Irish in twenty twenty six college basketball. 966 00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 12: Because you are the first black head coach to go 967 00:55:55,440 --> 00:56:00,799 Speaker 12: to a national championship game in college football. Just hearing 968 00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 12: that response alone, how much does this mean to you? 969 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:10,759 Speaker 2: I've said this before. I don't ever want to take 970 00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 2: attention away from the team. 971 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you. College basketball. The UC Bearcats take 972 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:20,839 Speaker 1: on Lipscomb tonight out of Nashville. Hey, by the way, 973 00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,240 Speaker 1: seven and the Bisons are seven and five on the season. 974 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: They lead the a Sun Conference in the standings. Early 975 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:31,239 Speaker 1: on in the Bearcats need to get with it six 976 00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:33,640 Speaker 1: thirty right here on seven, w all got. 977 00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:35,480 Speaker 13: That stands up to make damn excuses like I ain't 978 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:38,760 Speaker 13: ever gonna do it, Lipscomb, anybody that follows our program, 979 00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:40,000 Speaker 13: It'll never happen. 980 00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:43,719 Speaker 2: Easy to pick a pissed off I am. It ain't 981 00:56:43,800 --> 00:56:44,480 Speaker 2: ever happening. 982 00:56:44,840 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 13: I'm never going to make excuses, Mike, but I'll talk 983 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:47,920 Speaker 13: about challenges. 984 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,160 Speaker 2: So don't get the two damn things confused. Okay, I 985 00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:56,000 Speaker 2: was gonna say my my Vanderbilt Commodorees are undefeated, correct 986 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 2: uh and Lipscomb has been one of their victims. So 987 00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:02,320 Speaker 2: the the Bearcats better go ahead and take care of 988 00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:03,200 Speaker 2: business tonight. 989 00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,760 Speaker 1: NKU is on the road up against Robert Morris Tonight's 990 00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:08,320 Speaker 1: six point thirty on the project. 991 00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,120 Speaker 2: What else we got here, Let's see the step back 992 00:57:12,120 --> 00:57:12,760 Speaker 2: to the NFL. 993 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:17,440 Speaker 1: The Steelers have declined devoid dk Metcalfs guaranteed money following 994 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,480 Speaker 1: that two game suspension, so he will thus get his 995 00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: forty five million dollars in guaranteed doe. He will yes 996 00:57:26,440 --> 00:57:30,160 Speaker 1: acorny to the Steelers, college football, Ohio State and Miami 997 00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:33,400 Speaker 1: Hurricanes Wednesday night and the Cotton Bowl and Big D Dallas. 998 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 1: The Cotton Bowl action of Wednesday Night'll be right here 999 00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:40,680 Speaker 1: on seven hundred WLW at seven thirty. Also on Thursday, 1000 00:57:40,800 --> 00:57:44,640 Speaker 1: New Year's Day, we've got Alabama and Indiana at four. 1001 00:57:45,360 --> 00:57:50,160 Speaker 1: That'll be followed by who's playing at the night games? 1002 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:54,760 Speaker 1: Georgian Old miss that's it. We got that one two 1003 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:59,320 Speaker 1: at eight, and all is well in the EHL, Gary Jeff, 1004 00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,800 Speaker 1: because the league and the Professional Hockey Players of the 1005 00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,520 Speaker 1: Union reached a deal over the weekend. They got a 1006 00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:09,440 Speaker 1: new five years. Seal it and deliberate. The players are 1007 00:58:09,480 --> 00:58:11,760 Speaker 1: going to ratify it today. They're going to return to 1008 00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 1: their teams. The Clones missed three games with the workstoppage, 1009 00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:19,480 Speaker 1: two Friday and Saturday at home and one against Wheeling 1010 00:58:19,560 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: on yesterday. 1011 00:58:20,440 --> 00:58:23,200 Speaker 2: Do you know, if you name it, we like to 1012 00:58:23,320 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 2: do it. 1013 00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:29,680 Speaker 1: They If they had not reached this deal, the EHL 1014 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:33,160 Speaker 1: players from the Cyclones would have been evicted from their 1015 00:58:33,240 --> 00:58:38,560 Speaker 1: apartments January first, could have been it could have been 1016 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: a big crisis that whole league could have folded, could 1017 00:58:40,840 --> 00:58:43,600 Speaker 1: have been homeless because they all could have been home. Correct, 1018 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:45,600 Speaker 1: and not only them, but a lot of other teams. 1019 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:49,240 Speaker 1: I know, but the Clones will be back in action 1020 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,560 Speaker 1: Wednesday night against the Indie Field. 1021 00:58:53,600 --> 00:58:53,960 Speaker 2: I think the. 1022 00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:59,760 Speaker 1: Better pay uh more time off, right, Uh? And they 1023 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:02,920 Speaker 1: to get better equipment, better helmets. 1024 00:59:03,400 --> 00:59:04,840 Speaker 2: I guess. So I don't know. 1025 00:59:04,960 --> 00:59:09,120 Speaker 1: I mean, but I think they get a twenty I 1026 00:59:09,160 --> 00:59:12,880 Speaker 1: think I think I saw something that the pay gets raised, 1027 00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:16,400 Speaker 1: like twenty percent, oh or something that raise not bad. 1028 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,439 Speaker 1: I've been here for thirty years and never had a raise. Yeah, 1029 00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: so you're a blind domb be fuddled fool. 1030 00:59:22,680 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 2: Either as he well, they were already giving him half 1031 00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,600 Speaker 2: the station anyway. Well, that's true, you're right about that. 1032 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,360 Speaker 2: It's wait, he's got a double wide in Florida. But 1033 00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:37,120 Speaker 2: so the AHL is back, All is well, and everybody's okay. 1034 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 9: Sorr. 1035 00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 2: There you go segment. If you would get us out 1036 00:59:40,320 --> 00:59:42,440 Speaker 2: of the Studge report here, Gary Jeffery was on this 1037 00:59:42,600 --> 00:59:44,000 Speaker 2: date in two thousand and two. 1038 00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:49,479 Speaker 1: Yes, Senergy Field at Riverfront Stadium was imploded in front 1039 00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:53,800 Speaker 1: of our eyes two thousand and two and nineteen eighty three, 1040 00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,760 Speaker 1: Yes on this state. Yes, the Bengals hired their new 1041 00:59:57,840 --> 01:00:02,400 Speaker 1: head coach, the one and only me, Sam Wish. 1042 01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,440 Speaker 2: You don't live it Cleveland. 1043 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,240 Speaker 1: There you go right there, if you read I was 1044 01:00:10,280 --> 01:00:12,880 Speaker 1: gonna say it in honor of this Monday and a 1045 01:00:12,960 --> 01:00:15,280 Speaker 1: happy New Year, early, Happy New Year to everyone. 1046 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:20,040 Speaker 2: We leave you with the immortal words of the Stooge report. 1047 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 11: Well, the next person that sees anybody throw anything onto 1048 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:26,280 Speaker 11: this field, point them out. 1049 01:00:26,800 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 2: I get him out of here. You don't live in Cleveland? 1050 01:00:33,160 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 2: Was set that one time? 1051 01:00:35,000 --> 01:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Maybe this Sunday, Zach Taylor ought to grab the microphone 1052 01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 1: and say that just an honor of Sam Wish. See 1053 01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 1: if it happens. Probably not all right, you know, seven 1054 01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:53,880 Speaker 1: hundred w B fur Ball and I found it in 1055 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:58,280 Speaker 1: between the couch cushions. There was some loose change. 1056 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 2: Actually driving around because every time I seem to talk 1057 01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,400 Speaker 2: to him, he's in his car. I think he lives 1058 01:01:05,440 --> 01:01:09,120 Speaker 2: in his car. I'm not sure. The one, the only 1059 01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,280 Speaker 2: Andy Furman. You hear him on Fox Sports thirteen sixty 1060 01:01:12,440 --> 01:01:16,280 Speaker 2: every Sunday morning, also on Serious XM, and you also 1061 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:20,400 Speaker 2: when I'm lucky enough to have an extra show, hear 1062 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:24,320 Speaker 2: him on the Nightcap, which I'm planning on having Andy 1063 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:30,040 Speaker 2: on Tomorrow night with me. And now he's here because 1064 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:33,080 Speaker 2: well I needed some help, and I needed help from 1065 01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,600 Speaker 2: him because he's one of the pre eminent sports voices 1066 01:01:37,000 --> 01:01:39,720 Speaker 2: ever on the airwaves in Cincinnati. And he's back again. 1067 01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:41,400 Speaker 2: Andy Furman, how are you? 1068 01:01:42,680 --> 01:01:42,840 Speaker 6: You know? 1069 01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 8: I wasn't gonna go on with you. Honestly, I kind 1070 01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 8: of enjoyed the introt every week to get Loman alonga 1071 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,160 Speaker 8: but I listened to the segment's sport report, Yeah, and 1072 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,920 Speaker 8: he missed the biggest breaking story that's going on what 1073 01:01:53,360 --> 01:01:57,040 Speaker 8: tomorrow night downtown Cincinnati. The Harlem globetrot is a coming 1074 01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,560 Speaker 8: to town. It's their one hundredth year anniversary tool. All right, 1075 01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 8: And my good friend, the Angelique Waife, who played basketball 1076 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:08,560 Speaker 8: collegiate basketball at Brooklyn's Long Island University, is a member 1077 01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:11,480 Speaker 8: of the Washington Generals, And I'm going tomorrow night to 1078 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 8: see the Angelique. 1079 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:14,680 Speaker 2: How do you like that the team that always gets 1080 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 2: beat by the Harlem Globetrotters. 1081 01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:21,120 Speaker 8: Well, they last won in nineteen seventy one in Martin, Tennessee, 1082 01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,840 Speaker 8: one hundred to ninety nine. They've lost two thousand, four 1083 01:02:24,880 --> 01:02:28,600 Speaker 8: hundred and ninety six consecutive games, including two games last 1084 01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:29,840 Speaker 8: week in South Carolina. 1085 01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:34,160 Speaker 2: But is is the Angelique proud of this record that. 1086 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,240 Speaker 8: Both of their last week? And since she's from Brooklyn, 1087 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:41,400 Speaker 8: there was a story in last week's Brooklyn Daily Eagle, 1088 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,720 Speaker 8: and she claims that there are many people that try 1089 01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:46,640 Speaker 8: out for the Trotters. As she did try out for 1090 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,440 Speaker 8: the Trotters, they can be promoted from the generals to 1091 01:02:49,520 --> 01:02:51,960 Speaker 8: the Trottas. And I believe that she eventually will be 1092 01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:53,000 Speaker 8: a Harlem Globetrotter. 1093 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:57,080 Speaker 1: Without the Harlem Globetrotters, there would be no Savannah Bananas. 1094 01:02:57,600 --> 01:02:58,160 Speaker 2: Is that true? 1095 01:02:58,480 --> 01:02:59,919 Speaker 6: I agree? I agree. 1096 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,120 Speaker 8: I mean, the the baseball version of the Globals. I 1097 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:04,720 Speaker 8: don't know where the Globe Trotters went. 1098 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:05,120 Speaker 3: Off the rail. 1099 01:03:05,440 --> 01:03:07,560 Speaker 8: They were the biggest thing around, I mean, and I 1100 01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:09,760 Speaker 8: don't know if basketball is not as popular or they 1101 01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:12,640 Speaker 8: changed their their method of performing. 1102 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:17,200 Speaker 2: I don't know, maybe the audience, Maybe the audiences have changed. Dandy, 1103 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 2: did you ever consider that? 1104 01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:21,480 Speaker 8: I think kids love that. I'm telling you, kids love 1105 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,200 Speaker 8: to see that. I think they don't really play basketball 1106 01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:26,800 Speaker 8: much anymore. They stop and they do games, and they 1107 01:03:27,000 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 8: dance and they singing. Just play a game. Play the 1108 01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,280 Speaker 8: game the way We're Metal Lock played and Sweet Lou 1109 01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:36,880 Speaker 8: Lung Sweet Blue Dumb Bar played. They played basketball and 1110 01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:39,720 Speaker 8: they were really talented and they even if they had 1111 01:03:39,760 --> 01:03:41,960 Speaker 8: the truck shots and stuff like that. Now they stop 1112 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,840 Speaker 8: every several minutes and it's not much of a basketball 1113 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,440 Speaker 8: game anymore. 1114 01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:49,920 Speaker 2: Really the hollerm Globetrotters were they were weren't they kind 1115 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:54,880 Speaker 2: of the the brainchild of a Jewish man named Abe Saberstein. 1116 01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:58,640 Speaker 8: Yes, Abe Stoprostine, Yes, and the and the team that 1117 01:03:58,800 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 8: basically they're they're a nemesis. I guess you say in 1118 01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 8: the Washington Generals was formed by the one and only 1119 01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,640 Speaker 8: late Red Clots red Klotz. 1120 01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,000 Speaker 2: Red Klotz sounds like a medical condition. 1121 01:04:13,160 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 8: Andy, Well, I'm glad I don't happen then, really, so 1122 01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:19,800 Speaker 8: you you were actually just a fouting to help out? 1123 01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 8: Could have said men, because really that's a big event 1124 01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,040 Speaker 8: and you know what, they got a heck of a tour. 1125 01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:26,040 Speaker 8: They've been around one hundred years, and I couldn't the 1126 01:04:26,040 --> 01:04:28,760 Speaker 8: Fincinnati they are two performances tomorrow, I believe at two 1127 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,680 Speaker 8: thirty and like about seven o'clock at night, and honestly 1128 01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,080 Speaker 8: I believe they sell out both, a big drawing spot 1129 01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:35,919 Speaker 8: for the club. 1130 01:04:36,400 --> 01:04:39,400 Speaker 2: I'm glad you said performances are not games, because they're 1131 01:04:39,440 --> 01:04:41,400 Speaker 2: truly really not games. They never work. 1132 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:42,040 Speaker 3: Yeah they are. 1133 01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:45,440 Speaker 8: It's a it's a show, really. I mean, if you're 1134 01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,240 Speaker 8: just the basketblas of the Shinado, don't go. If you 1135 01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:50,439 Speaker 8: really want to be enter teams basketball wise and talent, 1136 01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:53,280 Speaker 8: and these guys have talent and women that talent. I'm 1137 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:55,400 Speaker 8: excited about ball English. I haven't gone to see the 1138 01:04:55,480 --> 01:04:57,520 Speaker 8: Trontas in a couple of years now. When I worked 1139 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,360 Speaker 8: at Saint Francis College of Brooklyn, uh, we were the 1140 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 8: Terriers at the time. We had a couple of guys 1141 01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:05,560 Speaker 8: who graduated from basketball and did play for the Generals. 1142 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,280 Speaker 8: I went when I came to Cincinnati, but other than that, 1143 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,520 Speaker 8: I've stayed away. And that's about maybe eighteen. 1144 01:05:10,600 --> 01:05:13,360 Speaker 2: So what you're saying, what you're saying you're is you've 1145 01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:20,280 Speaker 2: always associated yourself with losers. Yeah, so professionals. 1146 01:05:20,320 --> 01:05:21,440 Speaker 3: Okay, what is that? 1147 01:05:21,560 --> 01:05:23,400 Speaker 2: What does that make me? Andy game? 1148 01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:28,040 Speaker 8: So betting on the game no one cares about. 1149 01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:29,600 Speaker 2: Right. 1150 01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,320 Speaker 8: The kid who was drafted by the Detroit Piston several 1151 01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:38,080 Speaker 8: years ago went over to play in Turkey and now 1152 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:40,520 Speaker 8: he's going to play back to Balor again. I mean, 1153 01:05:40,560 --> 01:05:42,960 Speaker 8: come on, really, he's a pro. He's getting pro And 1154 01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:45,240 Speaker 8: that's another story for another day. I'll be to get 1155 01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:45,600 Speaker 8: into that. 1156 01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:48,880 Speaker 2: Let's do that tomorrow night. The pros who are the 1157 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:53,080 Speaker 2: the the athletes who are not student athletes, they're all pros. 1158 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:55,439 Speaker 2: So what does it matter you get paid. 1159 01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 8: You're a pro. 1160 01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:57,439 Speaker 3: But you know what, here's the deal. 1161 01:05:57,640 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 8: If you're getting get eeled money, I mean you considered 1162 01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:00,640 Speaker 8: a pro, I. 1163 01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:04,040 Speaker 2: Would say get money. I would say, I tell you what. 1164 01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:06,760 Speaker 2: We will go into a further depth tomorrow night on 1165 01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:09,960 Speaker 2: the Nightcap. How about that, Andy, I can't I can't wait. 1166 01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:10,600 Speaker 3: I can't. 1167 01:06:10,720 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 2: I can't either because you can't spell. I may have 1168 01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 2: to call you. 1169 01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:16,280 Speaker 8: I may have to call you from the cloak though, 1170 01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:17,960 Speaker 8: I'll go to they have to performance. 1171 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:18,600 Speaker 3: They'll do that. 1172 01:06:19,560 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 2: You can't spell Furman without f You just remember that 1173 01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:27,240 Speaker 2: damn show Gary Jeffan for Willie. Last Monday of the year. 1174 01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 2: A blustery day, to be sure, wind chills in the teams, 1175 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 2: winds up to thirty five or forty mile an hour 1176 01:06:40,920 --> 01:06:48,880 Speaker 2: GUS power out places. Gee, sounds like winter around the 1177 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:52,360 Speaker 2: tri State. Anyway, we will brave it the best we 1178 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 2: can in this half hour. Our guest is a New 1179 01:06:56,080 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 2: York Times bestselling author, a former US Navy diver, and 1180 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 2: co founder of the US for the Number four Warriors Foundation, 1181 01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 2: and over the last dozen years they've been recognized by 1182 01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,520 Speaker 2: Congress and the US Senate for helping nearly one hundred 1183 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:18,880 Speaker 2: thousand veterans in their families. That's always a good thing 1184 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:23,400 Speaker 2: in my book. And to talk about that and the 1185 01:07:23,520 --> 01:07:29,040 Speaker 2: project that he is embarked upon that you could help 1186 01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,560 Speaker 2: with is William Craig Reid. William Reid, Good afternoon, and 1187 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 2: welcome to the Bill Cunningham Show. How are you. 1188 01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 3: Jan great? 1189 01:07:36,920 --> 01:07:39,200 Speaker 9: Thanks for having me, No, thanks for being had. 1190 01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 6: I love it. 1191 01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:43,440 Speaker 2: Happy New Year, just ahead. Hope you had a good Christmas. 1192 01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:45,200 Speaker 2: I trust good Christmas. 1193 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,440 Speaker 9: Absolutely. It's going to take me all year to diet 1194 01:07:48,520 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 9: to get rid of everything I ate. 1195 01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:50,919 Speaker 6: But it was great. 1196 01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, my blood sugar levels are through the roof. I'm 1197 01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,880 Speaker 2: glad I don't have a doctor's appointment for the next 1198 01:07:56,000 --> 01:08:00,720 Speaker 2: five months. I got time. So tell me about us 1199 01:08:00,840 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 2: for a Warriors Foundation. What exactly you do to help veterans. 1200 01:08:06,520 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 14: Well, many years ago, we found that there were a 1201 01:08:08,920 --> 01:08:13,840 Speaker 14: number of iMac infect thousands of veterans foundations that are 1202 01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:16,800 Speaker 14: helping veterans in certain ways, but they were focused on 1203 01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 14: specific areas, and we decided that we wanted to be 1204 01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 14: able to help the entire veteran community and most important 1205 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:28,360 Speaker 14: to their families. Today, we've got about sixty percent of 1206 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:30,559 Speaker 14: the US population has a. 1207 01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,160 Speaker 9: Relative of a veteran. 1208 01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:37,640 Speaker 14: But of course there are family members that are having difficulties, 1209 01:08:37,680 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 14: and so we wanted to be able to reach out 1210 01:08:39,120 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 14: to them, not only help them where they are, whether 1211 01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,960 Speaker 14: that is for food or work or in other ways, 1212 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:48,880 Speaker 14: but also not just give them a hand out, but 1213 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:51,200 Speaker 14: also give them a hand up. And so that's what 1214 01:08:51,280 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 14: the foundation is focused on for the past dozen years. 1215 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:59,440 Speaker 2: So I mean as far as making them self reliant 1216 01:09:00,439 --> 01:09:02,120 Speaker 2: instead of relying on someone else. 1217 01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,639 Speaker 9: Basically that's that's absolutely correct. 1218 01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 14: So instead of just giving them a fish for a days, well. 1219 01:09:11,240 --> 01:09:14,960 Speaker 2: Fish for life. So you've launched a music fundraiser, tell 1220 01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:15,960 Speaker 2: me how that works. 1221 01:09:18,040 --> 01:09:20,799 Speaker 14: Well, as you know, I had written a number of books, 1222 01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:24,320 Speaker 14: but I've also written some songs many years ago. Some 1223 01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:25,759 Speaker 14: of them I wrote when I was in the Navy 1224 01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:30,360 Speaker 14: and recorded several one of them got picked up, never 1225 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:32,519 Speaker 14: went anywhere, but I put them on a shelf and 1226 01:09:32,600 --> 01:09:36,160 Speaker 14: forgot about them. And my son actually introduced me to 1227 01:09:36,640 --> 01:09:39,920 Speaker 14: AI music production. So I want to stress that I 1228 01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:44,680 Speaker 14: wrote the lyrics and the tunes, but then decided. 1229 01:09:44,240 --> 01:09:46,680 Speaker 9: To use AI to see if we could produce it 1230 01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:47,160 Speaker 9: that way. 1231 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:52,040 Speaker 14: Because we can't afford a studio band, and so we 1232 01:09:52,280 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 14: now have thirty songs across three albums that we're using 1233 01:09:56,240 --> 01:10:00,559 Speaker 14: as a fundraiser. So have some fun, some great music 1234 01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,720 Speaker 14: I hope people like, and it's a way to get 1235 01:10:03,760 --> 01:10:06,439 Speaker 14: the word out there, but also help our foundation help 1236 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:07,439 Speaker 14: more veterans this year. 1237 01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:10,320 Speaker 2: You say one song's even been optioned by an award 1238 01:10:10,360 --> 01:10:11,960 Speaker 2: winning artist for national release. 1239 01:10:13,920 --> 01:10:14,920 Speaker 9: Yes, that's correct. 1240 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:20,000 Speaker 14: So a really hot artist here in California, Presley Aaronson. 1241 01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,240 Speaker 14: He's won a number of awards and also his latest 1242 01:10:24,280 --> 01:10:30,800 Speaker 14: album features Grammy nominee Jimmy Allen, and he also has 1243 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:34,000 Speaker 14: one song with Russell Hitchcock, who's the lead singer Bear 1244 01:10:34,040 --> 01:10:36,599 Speaker 14: Supply on some of his albums. He's up and coming, 1245 01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:40,960 Speaker 14: and he is optioned one of the songs called Divided Lines, 1246 01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,639 Speaker 14: and so that will be put out by him here 1247 01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,760 Speaker 14: this next month. 1248 01:10:45,000 --> 01:10:49,080 Speaker 2: I've got a friend who's a Nashville songwriter, published Nashville 1249 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:53,920 Speaker 2: songwriter has several hits that he has either written or 1250 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:59,320 Speaker 2: co written by other artists, and he sent me it's 1251 01:10:59,320 --> 01:11:01,760 Speaker 2: odd that we're talking. He sent me last week one 1252 01:11:01,800 --> 01:11:04,960 Speaker 2: of the new songs he's written, and he wrote the 1253 01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:10,479 Speaker 2: lyrics himself and had the melody down, but also didn't 1254 01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:13,120 Speaker 2: have time to find a band to get it produced, 1255 01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,920 Speaker 2: to demo it to other art to pitch it to 1256 01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:21,280 Speaker 2: other artists, and he used AI and it sounded really cool. 1257 01:11:21,640 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm not a huge artificial intelligence fan, necessarily of it 1258 01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:33,160 Speaker 2: taking over everything and reducing our humanity to you know, 1259 01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:37,599 Speaker 2: a memory or something for the history books. But tell 1260 01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:40,400 Speaker 2: me how you think I from your experience, how how 1261 01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:45,639 Speaker 2: AI is reshaping music and broader more broadly, our lives. 1262 01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:52,160 Speaker 14: I was very skeptical when I started, too, and also 1263 01:11:53,560 --> 01:11:59,400 Speaker 14: foundationally felt that maybe AI could be an issue. But 1264 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:05,360 Speaker 14: I I'm pleasantly surprised. But I think it's also very 1265 01:12:05,479 --> 01:12:08,960 Speaker 14: difficult to produce something of great quality unless you really 1266 01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 14: know what you're doing. It's taken me about a year 1267 01:12:12,240 --> 01:12:14,160 Speaker 14: now to really understand how to do it, and I 1268 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:17,560 Speaker 14: have quite a bit of AI experience. You have to 1269 01:12:17,640 --> 01:12:22,200 Speaker 14: understand how to prompt it, where the weaknesses, to ensure 1270 01:12:22,240 --> 01:12:27,160 Speaker 14: that it's done correctly, but also your lyrics. It's really 1271 01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:32,560 Speaker 14: important to get those correct because bad lyrics result in 1272 01:12:32,760 --> 01:12:38,040 Speaker 14: bad outputs, and the tonation and your pacing and all 1273 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:39,160 Speaker 14: of that has to be just. 1274 01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:41,040 Speaker 9: Right in order for AI to do it correctly. 1275 01:12:41,840 --> 01:12:43,960 Speaker 14: I've learned all this over the past year and so 1276 01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:46,960 Speaker 14: a lot of trial and error, but if you get 1277 01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,519 Speaker 14: it right over time, you can actually come out with 1278 01:12:49,600 --> 01:12:50,400 Speaker 14: something pretty cool. 1279 01:12:50,680 --> 01:12:53,080 Speaker 2: Well, how did you go? And you wrote a lot 1280 01:12:53,160 --> 01:12:55,439 Speaker 2: of these songs, you said while you were in the navy. 1281 01:12:55,560 --> 01:13:00,960 Speaker 2: You've obviously always had an acute interest and some proficiency 1282 01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 2: in music. When did the music bug bite you? 1283 01:13:03,640 --> 01:13:03,920 Speaker 6: Will you? 1284 01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:06,639 Speaker 9: Many years ago? 1285 01:13:06,760 --> 01:13:09,439 Speaker 14: My father was in the Navy, and for one of 1286 01:13:09,560 --> 01:13:12,639 Speaker 14: my birthdays, when I was a young pup, he bought 1287 01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:15,400 Speaker 14: me a guitar and taught me how to play, and 1288 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:18,920 Speaker 14: so that's when I got the bug. My sister also 1289 01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:22,680 Speaker 14: has written a number of songs over the years, and 1290 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,479 Speaker 14: she also taught me some things. And I was in 1291 01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:30,160 Speaker 14: choir when I was in high school along with her, 1292 01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:32,960 Speaker 14: so I learned a little bit about singing. But I 1293 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:37,360 Speaker 14: wouldn't call myself a Grammy Award winning artist by any stretch. 1294 01:13:37,479 --> 01:13:42,519 Speaker 14: But I did have a propensity to write stories, and 1295 01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:46,559 Speaker 14: that's what songs are. There's stories in less than four minutes, basically, 1296 01:13:47,560 --> 01:13:50,360 Speaker 14: and so that's I think the key to making a 1297 01:13:50,400 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 14: good song is being able to write a story and 1298 01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:55,160 Speaker 14: delivered that and in a very short purity time. 1299 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 2: Well, by the way, there are a lot of Grammy 1300 01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,599 Speaker 2: Award winning artists that I wouldn't say I would give 1301 01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:03,920 Speaker 2: an a hole. So just because you're not necessarily a 1302 01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:08,200 Speaker 2: Grammy Award winning singer, that's okay. I myself have probably 1303 01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:12,000 Speaker 2: been responsible for writing or co writing about one hundred songs, 1304 01:14:12,720 --> 01:14:15,880 Speaker 2: of which ten or eleven I think are pretty good. 1305 01:14:16,200 --> 01:14:18,720 Speaker 2: I've never used AI, though it's been quite a while 1306 01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:22,400 Speaker 2: since I've done anything new. How do you think veterans 1307 01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:27,400 Speaker 2: are uniquely positioned to lead ethical AI adoption? As we 1308 01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:33,759 Speaker 2: move at a gosh at a hypersonic pace towards AI 1309 01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 2: being involved in everything, how are veterans acutely positioned? 1310 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,600 Speaker 14: Well, we've helped thousands of veterans of the years, not 1311 01:14:43,720 --> 01:14:48,439 Speaker 14: only transition, but also through helping them in terms of 1312 01:14:48,520 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 14: finding work and small business owners to get their businesses 1313 01:14:52,439 --> 01:14:55,760 Speaker 14: off the ground and going. And what we found is 1314 01:14:55,880 --> 01:15:02,000 Speaker 14: that obviously we come from a a difficult situation in 1315 01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,439 Speaker 14: many cases, but we've learned disciplines, and we've learned how 1316 01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:07,960 Speaker 14: to follow orders, but we've also learned how to lead. 1317 01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:12,240 Speaker 14: And then I've always laughed when veterans has said that 1318 01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:15,519 Speaker 14: they were told by employers that they didn't have management 1319 01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:21,519 Speaker 14: skills when they were leading thousands of other individuals through 1320 01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:22,559 Speaker 14: combat zones. 1321 01:15:23,160 --> 01:15:25,839 Speaker 9: So yeah, of course they have leadership skills. 1322 01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,599 Speaker 1: I mean when you're dealing when you're dealing with life 1323 01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 1: or death, or you're dealing with the next big sales project. 1324 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:38,160 Speaker 1: I think if you've got experience leading people through life 1325 01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:42,599 Speaker 1: and death situations, you can probably manage a sales pitch 1326 01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: or a boardroom. 1327 01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 6: Well exactly. 1328 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:49,880 Speaker 14: And I remember being interviewed by folks over the years 1329 01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 14: earlier in my career and they would ask me, can 1330 01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,080 Speaker 14: you handle stress? 1331 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:56,479 Speaker 9: I would laugh and say try being a navy diver 1332 01:15:56,640 --> 01:15:57,080 Speaker 9: for a day. 1333 01:15:57,720 --> 01:16:03,000 Speaker 14: But I think better are uniquely positioned with AI because 1334 01:16:03,840 --> 01:16:07,760 Speaker 14: of that past experience, Whereas others who maybe don't have 1335 01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:12,800 Speaker 14: those kinds of foundations see it as fearsome. They don't 1336 01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:16,519 Speaker 14: understand how this might be able to benefit their job. 1337 01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:20,120 Speaker 14: They maybe think it'll take their job away. And veterans 1338 01:16:20,160 --> 01:16:22,560 Speaker 14: have learned to deal with that kind of fear and 1339 01:16:22,720 --> 01:16:25,200 Speaker 14: to say, hey, you know what, let's see how we 1340 01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:30,400 Speaker 14: can take that next hill correctly using AI. How can 1341 01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:32,519 Speaker 14: it benefit us? How can it ensure that we have 1342 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:37,720 Speaker 14: better working situation and foundation. So I think they have 1343 01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:40,080 Speaker 14: a unique position to be able to do that. 1344 01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 2: All right, Oh, now you just mentioned and this is 1345 01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:47,400 Speaker 2: the question that's been on everybody's mind that's still in 1346 01:16:47,479 --> 01:16:51,360 Speaker 2: the workforce. Which jobs, with your experience do you think 1347 01:16:51,720 --> 01:16:56,680 Speaker 2: AI will replace or enhance? I mean, it's one thing 1348 01:16:56,760 --> 01:16:59,920 Speaker 2: to enhance, but to replace that is the big worry 1349 01:17:00,000 --> 01:17:02,880 Speaker 2: a lot of people have, and mine included. I mean, 1350 01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 2: they're doing so much with with audio and video. Now 1351 01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 2: that you know, video didn't kill the radio star, but 1352 01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:15,360 Speaker 2: AI may. So what jobs do you think that AI 1353 01:17:15,520 --> 01:17:19,639 Speaker 2: will replace or enhance? Because it certainly won't be jobs 1354 01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:25,760 Speaker 2: like a plumber for example, or doing doing major construction. 1355 01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:30,120 Speaker 2: I think that AI is going to overtake and those 1356 01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:33,920 Speaker 2: jobs are very important, and as far as giving veterans 1357 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:37,080 Speaker 2: a hand up, teaching those kind of things is important 1358 01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:38,519 Speaker 2: as well, don't you think? 1359 01:17:40,439 --> 01:17:40,639 Speaker 8: Yes? 1360 01:17:40,760 --> 01:17:41,400 Speaker 9: Absolutely. 1361 01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 14: And one of the companies that was launched based on 1362 01:17:45,880 --> 01:17:49,360 Speaker 14: the science that I wrote about, it's called Herman's Science. 1363 01:17:49,439 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 14: It's all one word, Herman Science that provides junior tove 1364 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:59,000 Speaker 14: AI training courses. And that's my recommendation to those who 1365 01:17:59,760 --> 01:18:03,479 Speaker 14: fee year for their jobs is to learn how to 1366 01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:08,120 Speaker 14: embrace AI. It's not going away, obviously, and there's not 1367 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,200 Speaker 14: much you can do about what jobs are going to 1368 01:18:10,280 --> 01:18:15,360 Speaker 14: be replaced. But if you learn how to properly prompt 1369 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,040 Speaker 14: and use AI and use it in your work experience, 1370 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,560 Speaker 14: and you get certified through a course like this, like 1371 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:26,479 Speaker 14: with therm and science, et cetera, then you can position 1372 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:30,880 Speaker 14: yourself to be able to move into those positions where 1373 01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:37,080 Speaker 14: those skills are critical and they're getting very high salaries 1374 01:18:37,680 --> 01:18:40,559 Speaker 14: and they're in great demand. So learn how to use 1375 01:18:40,600 --> 01:18:45,240 Speaker 14: AI properly across all kinds of disciplines, from marketing to sales, 1376 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,320 Speaker 14: to accounting. 1377 01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 9: To even coding. 1378 01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:52,120 Speaker 14: Now, if you use those skills properly, you can not 1379 01:18:52,240 --> 01:18:54,000 Speaker 14: a keeper job, but get better jobs. 1380 01:18:54,280 --> 01:18:57,960 Speaker 2: How long were you in the Navy and in what 1381 01:18:58,160 --> 01:18:59,280 Speaker 2: period of time will you? 1382 01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:01,840 Speaker 9: Six years? 1383 01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:05,960 Speaker 14: And during the Cold War, so not long before there 1384 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,920 Speaker 14: wasn't a Cold War, So during that period of time 1385 01:19:09,640 --> 01:19:12,760 Speaker 14: I was in and served the board submarines as well, 1386 01:19:12,840 --> 01:19:14,120 Speaker 14: but also as a navy diver. 1387 01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,920 Speaker 2: One of your best selling books that I was just 1388 01:19:20,200 --> 01:19:23,479 Speaker 2: kind of caught my eye here as we're talking, is 1389 01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:26,120 Speaker 2: a book called Spies of the Deep that you wrote 1390 01:19:26,560 --> 01:19:32,000 Speaker 2: without the aid of AI. I'm assuming the untold truth 1391 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:38,040 Speaker 2: about the most terrifying incident in submarine naval history and 1392 01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:41,880 Speaker 2: how Putin used the tragedy to ignite a new Cold War. 1393 01:19:42,360 --> 01:19:46,439 Speaker 2: Tell me about that just for a moment, if you would, yes. 1394 01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:49,640 Speaker 14: And that was written before AI had the scene right 1395 01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,040 Speaker 14: in the way it's being used now, So. 1396 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:53,000 Speaker 9: No AI used there. 1397 01:19:53,439 --> 01:19:57,879 Speaker 14: But the prequel to that was the book Read November, 1398 01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:01,639 Speaker 14: which was more about the the Cold War, what happened 1399 01:20:01,720 --> 01:20:04,720 Speaker 14: during the Cold War and some of the top secret missions. 1400 01:20:04,400 --> 01:20:04,840 Speaker 3: And so on. 1401 01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 9: Spies of Deep Is call it a sequel to that book, 1402 01:20:09,560 --> 01:20:09,800 Speaker 9: and it. 1403 01:20:09,920 --> 01:20:15,560 Speaker 14: Is more about post Cold War and starting with the 1404 01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:18,679 Speaker 14: loss of the submarine Curse, which went down in August 1405 01:20:18,720 --> 01:20:21,560 Speaker 14: of two thousand and What most people don't know is 1406 01:20:21,680 --> 01:20:26,800 Speaker 14: that for a year prior to that, the curse went on, 1407 01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:30,720 Speaker 14: a number of missions got right up close to one 1408 01:20:30,760 --> 01:20:32,400 Speaker 14: of our US carriers. 1409 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:35,240 Speaker 9: And Putin used that to campaign. 1410 01:20:35,479 --> 01:20:38,360 Speaker 14: He went from about two percent of the vote to 1411 01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,960 Speaker 14: fifty two percent plus of the vote within six months 1412 01:20:44,040 --> 01:20:47,320 Speaker 14: by campaigning on what the curse did and saying he 1413 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 14: was going to bring back the military and bring back 1414 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 14: greatness to Russia. He obviously won and then the curse 1415 01:20:53,880 --> 01:21:00,479 Speaker 14: went down in August, and then he actually use that 1416 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:05,240 Speaker 14: to further his campaign, but he wrested control from the 1417 01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:10,920 Speaker 14: oligarchs and the energy companies, used those billions then to 1418 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:15,240 Speaker 14: fuel his own wealth, but also to refuel Russia's wealth, 1419 01:21:15,479 --> 01:21:19,519 Speaker 14: and that reignited the Cold war that we are currently in. 1420 01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:20,960 Speaker 14: And if you don't think we're in a cold war, 1421 01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:23,000 Speaker 14: you're not paying much attention to the news. 1422 01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:26,840 Speaker 2: No, and they threatened to make it hot all the time, 1423 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:32,599 Speaker 2: just depending on who's in office and who's rattling the saber. 1424 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:38,040 Speaker 2: What's your latest book? Will you your most recent? 1425 01:21:39,560 --> 01:21:42,680 Speaker 14: Yes, I'm now writing some business books and so my 1426 01:21:42,800 --> 01:21:45,720 Speaker 14: latest book is called Start with Who, and if you've 1427 01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:49,320 Speaker 14: ever read Simon Sinex Start with Why. 1428 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:50,759 Speaker 9: Great book. 1429 01:21:51,520 --> 01:21:54,920 Speaker 14: This is taking that to the next level and it 1430 01:21:55,040 --> 01:21:58,880 Speaker 14: talks about business storytelling and using neuroscience in that area. 1431 01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:03,639 Speaker 14: Have a number of things related to veterans and also 1432 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:07,400 Speaker 14: the military and how it's been used in the military 1433 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:08,560 Speaker 14: in many aspects. 1434 01:22:09,160 --> 01:22:11,400 Speaker 9: So that's the latest book. That's how to Start with Who. 1435 01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:15,519 Speaker 2: How would you describe the music that you produced with 1436 01:22:15,640 --> 01:22:18,600 Speaker 2: the help of AI. What kind of genre would you 1437 01:22:18,760 --> 01:22:21,360 Speaker 2: say it fits into if it fits into any genre 1438 01:22:21,400 --> 01:22:21,680 Speaker 2: at all. 1439 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:26,519 Speaker 14: It's across number of genres, from rock to pop, a 1440 01:22:26,560 --> 01:22:30,560 Speaker 14: little bit of alternative rock. Actually wrote co wrote a 1441 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,439 Speaker 14: couple of songs with my son, he's a little more 1442 01:22:32,479 --> 01:22:35,400 Speaker 14: in alternative rock. And then we have some country with 1443 01:22:35,560 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 14: a little bit of Christian overtones into that as well. 1444 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:43,439 Speaker 14: Cool and some singer songwriter. One song I wrote for 1445 01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,639 Speaker 14: my mom after I went to the Navy, one song 1446 01:22:45,680 --> 01:22:48,000 Speaker 14: I wrote about the curse that submarine that I mentioned 1447 01:22:48,040 --> 01:22:52,000 Speaker 14: that went down, and one song about nine to eleven. 1448 01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:56,360 Speaker 14: And then we have a Christmas song about based on 1449 01:22:56,400 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 14: a true story about young girl who's missing her father 1450 01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,840 Speaker 14: who served me. We have one song that's a cheer 1451 01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:05,639 Speaker 14: jerker and that's also based on a true story about 1452 01:23:08,360 --> 01:23:11,200 Speaker 14: a gentleman who lost his brother who was a Navy 1453 01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:13,880 Speaker 14: seal when he was serving the overseas well. 1454 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,439 Speaker 2: You say, this is a music fundraiser for US for 1455 01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:19,960 Speaker 2: Warriors Foundation. How can people help? 1456 01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:26,240 Speaker 14: So the songs are not quite available yet. There's one 1457 01:23:26,439 --> 01:23:30,560 Speaker 14: song that is posted that you will be able to 1458 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,840 Speaker 14: find in the next week up on iTunes. 1459 01:23:32,960 --> 01:23:37,479 Speaker 9: It's called Into This Silent Night. That's the Christmas song 1460 01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,679 Speaker 9: that I mentioned, and we got it out for Christmas. 1461 01:23:40,439 --> 01:23:44,200 Speaker 14: The rest will be available early to mid January, and 1462 01:23:44,280 --> 01:23:47,160 Speaker 14: you'll find them on iTunes, Spotify, et cetera, wherever you 1463 01:23:47,240 --> 01:23:47,840 Speaker 14: want to go and. 1464 01:23:49,439 --> 01:23:51,160 Speaker 9: Really to learn more about it. 1465 01:23:51,240 --> 01:23:55,720 Speaker 14: We're looking for sponsors right now, and that website is 1466 01:23:56,439 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 14: Music the Number four Warriors Music for Warriors dot org. 1467 01:24:01,479 --> 01:24:03,160 Speaker 9: Music four Warriors dot Org. 1468 01:24:03,439 --> 01:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Okay, you can learn. 1469 01:24:04,760 --> 01:24:08,600 Speaker 14: More about the project there and we're looking for some sponsors, 1470 01:24:08,720 --> 01:24:12,360 Speaker 14: so need help there would be appreciated, and then shortly 1471 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,760 Speaker 14: thereafter the songs will be available as well. 1472 01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:19,840 Speaker 2: Okay, well, definitely, I wish you great success in the 1473 01:24:19,960 --> 01:24:23,040 Speaker 2: new year, and thanks for spending some time with us today. 1474 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:27,360 Speaker 2: That's William Reid. It's US four Warriors Foundation. Music for 1475 01:24:27,640 --> 01:24:33,920 Speaker 2: Warriors is where you would find this AI enhanced music. 1476 01:24:34,840 --> 01:24:37,400 Speaker 2: Thanks man, have a great new year, take care. 1477 01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 9: Thank you and you as well. 1478 01:24:38,920 --> 01:24:43,160 Speaker 2: All right. Fantastic stooge two on the way in moments. 1479 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:46,599 Speaker 2: I'm Gary Jeff Walker. In This is the Bill Cunningham Show. 1480 01:24:47,120 --> 01:24:52,800 Speaker 10: Pounds, Burrow throws, Cody four catches, he's down to the fifty. 1481 01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:54,720 Speaker 2: And the ten the five. 1482 01:24:56,760 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 11: Tackled around the three yard line almost a big man 1483 01:25:02,439 --> 01:25:07,720 Speaker 11: TD for the all time highlight Reel as Burrow threw 1484 01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 11: it to Cody Ford and the wooly mammoth began running 1485 01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 11: down the near sideline. 1486 01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:21,960 Speaker 6: Hello, quiet, and I'm spokes I'm broadcasting. 1487 01:25:25,640 --> 01:25:28,160 Speaker 2: God, you're very disappointed in Cody Ford. I mean he 1488 01:25:28,240 --> 01:25:30,360 Speaker 2: needs to learn to finish seg he should have crossed 1489 01:25:30,360 --> 01:25:33,400 Speaker 2: the golden one. Dude, I just need to get the ball. 1490 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:34,920 Speaker 2: It's to the white tip there. 1491 01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,800 Speaker 1: You know, some guys out of the way, but not enough. 1492 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:39,600 Speaker 1: So that was a play of the game though. That 1493 01:25:39,720 --> 01:25:42,040 Speaker 1: was something that was something that was something to see. 1494 01:25:42,640 --> 01:25:47,240 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow another nice game again yesterday Chase looked at 1495 01:25:47,280 --> 01:25:49,800 Speaker 2: another guy and thought, well, Cody Ford, here it comes 1496 01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:51,679 Speaker 2: right exactly and bingo. 1497 01:25:52,720 --> 01:25:55,519 Speaker 1: Gary Jeffy Hastuotu reporters of proud service of your local 1498 01:25:55,640 --> 01:26:00,680 Speaker 1: Tamestar Heating and air Conditioning dealers, Tamestar quality you could 1499 01:26:00,680 --> 01:26:02,960 Speaker 1: feel in beautiful Milford, the home of one main gallery 1500 01:26:03,439 --> 01:26:04,280 Speaker 1: called Baker. 1501 01:26:06,400 --> 01:26:13,600 Speaker 2: One fifty one twenty four. I tell you what's hard rock, Roxy. 1502 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,519 Speaker 1: Bengals Up. They brought you by good spirits, winding tobacco 1503 01:26:18,520 --> 01:26:20,640 Speaker 1: and party town. Everything you need to ring in the 1504 01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:24,160 Speaker 1: new year with thirteen locations. Uh Bengals getting ready this 1505 01:26:24,240 --> 01:26:27,560 Speaker 1: week for the season finale against Cleveland. More tonight on 1506 01:26:27,600 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 1: Bengals Line Lance and Lapping Company at six o five 1507 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:34,680 Speaker 1: here on seven hundred WLW. College Basketball, the UC Bearcats 1508 01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,599 Speaker 1: take on Lipscomb tonight at the fifth Third Arena, six 1509 01:26:38,720 --> 01:26:40,520 Speaker 1: thirty year on seven hundred WLW. 1510 01:26:40,800 --> 01:26:42,560 Speaker 13: The Bisons This man, I ain't never going to be 1511 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,560 Speaker 13: the guy that stands up and makes damn excuses like 1512 01:26:44,640 --> 01:26:45,560 Speaker 13: I ain't ever gonna do it. 1513 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:48,559 Speaker 2: Okay, okay uh. 1514 01:26:48,920 --> 01:26:52,639 Speaker 1: The Bison's come to town out of Nashville at seven 1515 01:26:52,680 --> 01:26:55,679 Speaker 1: and five on the season David stands. 1516 01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:59,120 Speaker 2: I remember when David Lipskin was an n i AA school. 1517 01:26:59,280 --> 01:27:02,400 Speaker 2: There you go, and they played all kinds of you know, 1518 01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:05,519 Speaker 2: Trebeca Nazarene or whatever on the schedule of the night. 1519 01:27:05,840 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 2: Ever since they jumped to Division one, they have made 1520 01:27:10,560 --> 01:27:13,920 Speaker 2: the tournament I think a couple of times a year. 1521 01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:16,920 Speaker 1: KU's an Action tonight up against Robert Morris six point 1522 01:27:16,920 --> 01:27:20,240 Speaker 1: thirty on the Project. Going back to college football, the 1523 01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:24,320 Speaker 1: Bearcats and Scott Sanderfield have hired David Rowe as the 1524 01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,439 Speaker 1: team's new cornerbacks coach. He has spent the last two 1525 01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:31,200 Speaker 1: season in Rutgers and Notre Dame coach Marcus Freeman, a 1526 01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:36,439 Speaker 1: potential candidate for the NFL coaching vacancies. He's returning to 1527 01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:39,360 Speaker 1: the Irish in twenty twenty six. Segman, did you see 1528 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:43,439 Speaker 1: any of that game last night? The Bears are sleeping 1529 01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,040 Speaker 1: and the Bears in the Eagles try to shootout a 1530 01:27:48,080 --> 01:27:51,000 Speaker 1: Bearsdell had a chance at the end for about the 1531 01:27:51,080 --> 01:27:55,160 Speaker 1: eight hundredth time this season. Caleb Williams is mister comeback, 1532 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:59,680 Speaker 1: mister fourth quarter, and they almost got it done last night. 1533 01:27:59,720 --> 01:28:03,640 Speaker 1: But it was absolutely must watch viewing if you're an 1534 01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:07,000 Speaker 1: NFL football. Monday Night football should be a classic tonight 1535 01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:10,639 Speaker 1: the Rams and Falcons at seven on Fox Sports, thirteen 1536 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:11,120 Speaker 1: to sixty. 1537 01:28:11,600 --> 01:28:15,280 Speaker 2: If the Falcons win, there's a chance that. 1538 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,560 Speaker 1: That whole division, that whole division is still up for 1539 01:28:19,680 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: grabs between Tampa Bay and Carolina College football, Ohio State 1540 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:26,720 Speaker 1: getting ready to battle those Miami Hurricanes Wednesday night and 1541 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:30,360 Speaker 1: the Cotton Bowl and the football playoffs and the Cotton Bowl. 1542 01:28:30,439 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 1: Actually with the buckeyser right here Wednesday night at seven 1543 01:28:34,040 --> 01:28:35,439 Speaker 1: hundred across the. 1544 01:28:35,439 --> 01:28:37,120 Speaker 2: Board, finish it off having guts. 1545 01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:38,080 Speaker 3: No. 1546 01:28:38,520 --> 01:28:40,040 Speaker 8: I like to know where Lou Holtz is right now, 1547 01:28:40,600 --> 01:28:41,880 Speaker 8: what he said about our team. 1548 01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:46,000 Speaker 2: What he said about our team, I cannot believe. 1549 01:28:46,680 --> 01:28:47,920 Speaker 9: This is a tough team right here. 1550 01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,120 Speaker 2: We're proud to be from Ohio Pro. 1551 01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 1: Tell EHL and the professional hockey players at Union reaching 1552 01:28:56,520 --> 01:28:59,160 Speaker 1: a deal over the weekend, a new contract to five years. 1553 01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:03,920 Speaker 1: Players return to their teams today. The Clones missed three 1554 01:29:04,040 --> 01:29:07,040 Speaker 1: games due to the work stoppage, and they'll get back 1555 01:29:07,080 --> 01:29:08,320 Speaker 1: the regular season action. 1556 01:29:08,640 --> 01:29:11,400 Speaker 2: So the players basically missed about six dollars and thirty 1557 01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 2: five cents. 1558 01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: The Clones are back home Wednesday night on New Year's Eve. 1559 01:29:15,520 --> 01:29:17,679 Speaker 1: I wonder if they get paid any against the fuel. 1560 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:18,320 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1561 01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 2: Yo ho oh no, yo ho oh no. So I 1562 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 2: don't know, but Ehl's back in business. I ask you 1563 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:30,960 Speaker 2: a question. You've seen the TV commercial where they're making 1564 01:29:31,080 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 2: fun of people who yell at the TV as if 1565 01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 2: the players can hear them. 1566 01:29:36,640 --> 01:29:40,000 Speaker 1: Right, it's a Geico ad or something right. That's always 1567 01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:44,200 Speaker 1: baffled me, and yet there have been times I've done it. 1568 01:29:44,320 --> 01:29:46,160 Speaker 1: You've got to admit you've done that before. Have you 1569 01:29:46,320 --> 01:29:48,880 Speaker 1: yield at the TV, at a at a referee, at 1570 01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:52,760 Speaker 1: a coach or something while you're watching game, as if 1571 01:29:53,240 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 1: they could actually hear you correct. Probably one of these 1572 01:29:57,080 --> 01:30:01,360 Speaker 1: days they will, knowing the technology we have as AI developed. 1573 01:30:01,439 --> 01:30:04,439 Speaker 1: You never know, that's true. You have that reciprocal back 1574 01:30:04,520 --> 01:30:07,519 Speaker 1: and forth. I don't know, Gary, Jeff, But good luck 1575 01:30:07,560 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 1: to the Bearcats tonight. NKU and Robert Morris on the 1576 01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 1: project and we'll see what happens. All right, Big week 1577 01:30:13,320 --> 01:30:16,599 Speaker 1: for Ohio State and Indiana plays on Thursday on New 1578 01:30:16,680 --> 01:30:20,160 Speaker 1: Year's Day, and the Bearcats play in the Liberty Bowl Friday. 1579 01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:22,360 Speaker 2: Are you going to a big party on New Year's 1580 01:30:22,400 --> 01:30:24,000 Speaker 2: Eve to ring in the New Year's seg man? 1581 01:30:24,240 --> 01:30:24,280 Speaker 8: No? 1582 01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:25,000 Speaker 6: No? 1583 01:30:25,680 --> 01:30:28,880 Speaker 2: What do you usually do nice and quiet at home? Yeah? Yeah, 1584 01:30:29,640 --> 01:30:31,719 Speaker 2: I mean, do you drop a ball or anything? 1585 01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:31,960 Speaker 9: No? 1586 01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:34,160 Speaker 2: The Ladies back list? 1587 01:30:34,240 --> 01:30:35,160 Speaker 6: Do you dance with. 1588 01:30:37,000 --> 01:30:41,320 Speaker 2: No Jeff Brantley, No, do you dance with Denise to 1589 01:30:41,400 --> 01:30:43,240 Speaker 2: Guy Lombardo at midnight? Yes? 1590 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:48,160 Speaker 1: Down the hallway of our home, right into bed? Yeah no, no, no, 1591 01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:51,519 Speaker 1: you're into the living room. Do you stay up for 1592 01:30:51,680 --> 01:30:54,719 Speaker 1: the New Year? No, that's a good question. 1593 01:30:54,880 --> 01:30:55,519 Speaker 2: I don't know yet. 1594 01:30:55,720 --> 01:30:59,160 Speaker 1: That's a very good question. Well, probably both asleep. I 1595 01:30:59,320 --> 01:31:04,559 Speaker 1: got about seven, So there you go. Okay, segment, we'll 1596 01:31:04,600 --> 01:31:07,280 Speaker 1: get us out of the studge report. Gary jeff An 1597 01:31:07,320 --> 01:31:09,640 Speaker 1: honor of a what was a warm day now a 1598 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:13,000 Speaker 1: cold day. We leave you with the immortal words of 1599 01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:14,880 Speaker 1: the Stooge Report. 1600 01:31:15,560 --> 01:31:17,679 Speaker 6: Seriously, anotless monkey could do your job. 1601 01:31:20,840 --> 01:31:24,439 Speaker 1: Okay, segment, Happy New Year, brother, name to you say everybody, 1602 01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:25,280 Speaker 1: We'll see you soon. 1603 01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:25,680 Speaker 3: All right? 1604 01:31:26,479 --> 01:31:42,360 Speaker 2: Seven hundred w lw Oh wait a minute, we got 1605 01:31:42,439 --> 01:31:46,519 Speaker 2: somebody else on the line here. Who is this? Oh 1606 01:31:46,600 --> 01:31:47,559 Speaker 2: it's the wild Man. 1607 01:31:48,840 --> 01:31:49,200 Speaker 9: That's me. 1608 01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 2: Hi, wild Man, you're on the air. What's going on? 1609 01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:53,880 Speaker 2: Don't worry, You're safe? 1610 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,559 Speaker 15: Well happy but latest sixty fifth birthday, my man? 1611 01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,280 Speaker 2: Well, thank you very much. 1612 01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:02,320 Speaker 15: I wanted to be part of your party. I mean 1613 01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:03,760 Speaker 15: if in fact, I would have probably him and came 1614 01:32:03,840 --> 01:32:06,679 Speaker 15: up to the studio, but I ran into some cell 1615 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,080 Speaker 15: phone problems that almost caused the city to be in 1616 01:32:09,120 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 15: a mass panic. 1617 01:32:10,880 --> 01:32:13,920 Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure you not having a cell phone would 1618 01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:18,120 Speaker 2: cause great pandemonium all over the tri state. Wild Man, 1619 01:32:18,160 --> 01:32:19,040 Speaker 2: there's no question. 1620 01:32:19,040 --> 01:32:21,240 Speaker 15: It did with my son and my friends because they 1621 01:32:21,240 --> 01:32:21,880 Speaker 15: didn't know they could. 1622 01:32:21,880 --> 01:32:22,920 Speaker 9: They didn't know what was going on. 1623 01:32:23,160 --> 01:32:26,160 Speaker 15: I mean the Hamilton County sheriffs, three of them showed 1624 01:32:26,240 --> 01:32:27,080 Speaker 15: up here at my house. 1625 01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:28,160 Speaker 2: I heard about that. 1626 01:32:29,360 --> 01:32:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, they were doing a welfare check because nobody could 1627 01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,840 Speaker 1: get ahold of you, including me last week. 1628 01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:39,000 Speaker 15: Right, yeah, yeah, but all is well got a brand 1629 01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:42,439 Speaker 15: new phone. It works great. Now let's move on Bengals. 1630 01:32:42,760 --> 01:32:44,560 Speaker 15: Let's talk with me about the Bengals, because I know 1631 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:46,880 Speaker 15: time is short here and I got to get in 1632 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:49,200 Speaker 15: my case a goo because I got a major case 1633 01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:52,519 Speaker 15: of it. But the Bengals win yesterday was nice. Hopefully 1634 01:32:52,560 --> 01:32:54,400 Speaker 15: they can finish up the season with three wins in 1635 01:32:54,439 --> 01:32:57,000 Speaker 15: a row. So much for so much for the talk 1636 01:32:57,080 --> 01:33:00,600 Speaker 15: about the Bengals tanking to get a draft pick. And 1637 01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:01,720 Speaker 15: I know there was a guy that. 1638 01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:03,120 Speaker 9: Sometimes you have on the air. 1639 01:33:03,280 --> 01:33:05,280 Speaker 2: I'm not going to mention his name, but he went. 1640 01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,439 Speaker 15: On and posted that the Bengals should tank the rest 1641 01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:09,600 Speaker 15: of the season to get a better draft pick, that 1642 01:33:09,720 --> 01:33:13,000 Speaker 15: Joe Burrow shouldn't play. And Joe Burrow yesterday threw cold 1643 01:33:13,080 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 15: water over everything and said, I like playing football. I 1644 01:33:16,479 --> 01:33:19,759 Speaker 15: like being out there with my guys quarterback. It doesn't 1645 01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:20,879 Speaker 15: it wants to play football. 1646 01:33:21,000 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what order you pick in the draft. 1647 01:33:23,680 --> 01:33:27,160 Speaker 2: It's drafting the right player for your team that's available. 1648 01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't matter if you've got the first pick in 1649 01:33:29,439 --> 01:33:32,360 Speaker 2: the draft or the fifth pick or the eighth pick, 1650 01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:34,559 Speaker 2: which I guess is where the Bengals are right now. 1651 01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:37,280 Speaker 2: I wanted to ask you before you go into any 1652 01:33:37,360 --> 01:33:41,160 Speaker 2: more diatribes because I'm hoping that we'll have a double 1653 01:33:41,240 --> 01:33:45,680 Speaker 2: dose of the Wild tomorrow on my nightcap. But so 1654 01:33:46,040 --> 01:33:48,800 Speaker 2: say you don't want me there, you don't have to 1655 01:33:48,840 --> 01:33:50,640 Speaker 2: get it all out at one time. I'll ask you 1656 01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:54,479 Speaker 2: the question I asked seg. There's a commercial on where 1657 01:33:54,640 --> 01:33:58,760 Speaker 2: people are being made fun of because they're yelling at 1658 01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:02,479 Speaker 2: the TV as if the players and the coaches can 1659 01:34:02,560 --> 01:34:03,000 Speaker 2: hear them. 1660 01:34:03,720 --> 01:34:04,560 Speaker 5: Do you do that? 1661 01:34:04,800 --> 01:34:05,400 Speaker 2: Wild man? 1662 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:09,599 Speaker 15: I yell at the announcers like John Sadsack won't shut. 1663 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,240 Speaker 2: Up, but they still can't hear you. 1664 01:34:12,080 --> 01:34:16,519 Speaker 15: I know, I know, I think I know you probably 1665 01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 15: do it. Everybody doesn't. Everybody doesn't, and if they say 1666 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:22,439 Speaker 15: they don't, their liar, they're liars. 1667 01:34:22,600 --> 01:34:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm doing a lot. I'm doing it less and less 1668 01:34:25,080 --> 01:34:27,800 Speaker 2: as I've come to realize that I don't have a 1669 01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,120 Speaker 2: smart TV that's got a microphone that's going to go 1670 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:33,080 Speaker 2: directly into their booth as they're calling the game. 1671 01:34:34,160 --> 01:34:36,000 Speaker 15: Well, a lot of times I'll just comment they'll say 1672 01:34:36,040 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 15: something stupid, like the hands team is on the field 1673 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,160 Speaker 15: and just waiting for them to say that, because that's 1674 01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:45,000 Speaker 15: that's part of their vocabulary. I go, really, really really 1675 01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:47,639 Speaker 15: thanks for telling me that. Or you know, they're down 1676 01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:50,080 Speaker 15: by five points and they'll say a field goal doesn't 1677 01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,640 Speaker 15: help them, Like, oh, thanks, thanks for that information. I 1678 01:34:53,640 --> 01:34:55,920 Speaker 15: couldn't add Without you, guys, I'd be lost. 1679 01:34:56,479 --> 01:34:58,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, but you have you ever have you ever just 1680 01:34:58,960 --> 01:35:03,200 Speaker 2: yelled run run run? Come on you dummy, ron? What 1681 01:35:03,320 --> 01:35:04,040 Speaker 2: do you stump? 1682 01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:04,200 Speaker 4: No? 1683 01:35:04,560 --> 01:35:06,400 Speaker 15: No, I never do that. I've never done that. 1684 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:12,640 Speaker 2: No, go ahead, go ahead, No, it's all right. My 1685 01:35:13,080 --> 01:35:15,679 Speaker 2: only other question for you, wild man, something I've always 1686 01:35:15,720 --> 01:35:20,120 Speaker 2: wanted to know because you often talk about a case 1687 01:35:20,240 --> 01:35:20,800 Speaker 2: of the goo. 1688 01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:26,280 Speaker 1: Now do you order this gou online? Is it delivered 1689 01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:29,680 Speaker 1: right to your house? Can you buy gou at a 1690 01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,360 Speaker 1: brick and mortar store or at Walmart or anywhere else? 1691 01:35:35,080 --> 01:35:37,320 Speaker 2: How does the goo come to you? Wild man? 1692 01:35:37,560 --> 01:35:40,280 Speaker 15: It comes inside you. It comes inside, It builds up 1693 01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:43,000 Speaker 15: inside the human body, and that gets to a point 1694 01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:44,519 Speaker 15: where you just got to release the goog? 1695 01:35:44,720 --> 01:35:47,800 Speaker 2: Can you can you actually define what the goo is? 1696 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:49,360 Speaker 2: Because I've always wondered. 1697 01:35:51,000 --> 01:35:53,800 Speaker 15: It's been a little a little, a little unhappy, a 1698 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:57,920 Speaker 15: little angry a little mad. So goo is angry, really mad, 1699 01:35:58,120 --> 01:36:00,240 Speaker 15: maybe really mad. When you get a major k of 1700 01:36:00,280 --> 01:36:01,519 Speaker 15: the goos, you really. 1701 01:36:01,400 --> 01:36:04,000 Speaker 2: Mad a lot of anger in that particular Ye. 1702 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,280 Speaker 15: Have you ever had just just just just blame o? 1703 01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 6: Yes? 1704 01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,960 Speaker 2: Have you ever had just a minor case of the goo? 1705 01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:16,360 Speaker 2: Does it always uh develop into a large tub of goo? 1706 01:36:17,360 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 15: I've had a minor case of the gou, but usually 1707 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:24,160 Speaker 15: it develops into a major case. Well, what I've got 1708 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:26,360 Speaker 15: a major case, but I guess I'll save it for 1709 01:36:26,479 --> 01:36:27,160 Speaker 15: you for tomorrow. 1710 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:30,040 Speaker 2: Well, no, we can. We can actually tease the gou 1711 01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:33,840 Speaker 2: that you will deliver into the tries like the tri 1712 01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:35,120 Speaker 2: State needs more goo? 1713 01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:35,960 Speaker 6: Uh? 1714 01:36:36,360 --> 01:36:38,920 Speaker 2: You you have a case of the goo. About the 1715 01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:40,560 Speaker 2: reds Hall of Fame. 1716 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:44,080 Speaker 15: The Red Hall of Fame for inductees, I have a 1717 01:36:44,240 --> 01:36:47,479 Speaker 15: major case on who got in and who should be in? 1718 01:36:47,840 --> 01:36:51,600 Speaker 15: Which is a joke and who shouldn't be in? I 1719 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,000 Speaker 15: mean that the veteran of the Red Hall of Fame 1720 01:36:54,160 --> 01:36:56,760 Speaker 15: is a great you know, is a great organization. They 1721 01:36:56,840 --> 01:36:59,200 Speaker 15: do so much with the community as a great museum. 1722 01:36:59,680 --> 01:37:01,639 Speaker 15: Well let's the Cooper's down. Ain't nothing better. 1723 01:37:01,800 --> 01:37:03,720 Speaker 2: Let's go through the picks just real quick, and you 1724 01:37:03,800 --> 01:37:06,360 Speaker 2: can elaborate expound upon that tomorrow night, if you'd like 1725 01:37:06,800 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 2: Brandon Phillips, yes or no? 1726 01:37:09,280 --> 01:37:09,439 Speaker 3: Oh? 1727 01:37:09,520 --> 01:37:12,040 Speaker 15: That was that was that was a no brainer. 1728 01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,200 Speaker 2: So there's no gu about BP. 1729 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:19,240 Speaker 15: No I voted for I voted for Brandon Phillips. 1730 01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:22,519 Speaker 2: All right, sweet Lou, Well, that was by the. 1731 01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:25,000 Speaker 15: Veterans Committee and that was that was a no brainer too. 1732 01:37:25,040 --> 01:37:27,240 Speaker 15: I mean we didn't know who the Veterans Committee was 1733 01:37:27,280 --> 01:37:29,120 Speaker 15: going to put on there, but Lou Panela. I mean 1734 01:37:29,160 --> 01:37:31,280 Speaker 15: he had a winning record, he won a World Series. 1735 01:37:31,400 --> 01:37:34,960 Speaker 2: Okay, so no, come on, man, no gu with with Lou. 1736 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:38,000 Speaker 15: I mean like Dave Bristol's in the Reds Hall of Fame. 1737 01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 15: Now while he never won a World Series or repennant 1738 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:43,280 Speaker 15: with the Reds, he did. I think I have an 1739 01:37:43,280 --> 01:37:46,240 Speaker 15: overall winning record as a manager, but you got to 1740 01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:51,639 Speaker 15: put Lou in there. Aaron Harang absolutely not losing record 1741 01:37:52,000 --> 01:37:54,760 Speaker 15: e r a of over four. I mean you're putting 1742 01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:56,840 Speaker 15: a guy with a losing record. 1743 01:37:57,000 --> 01:38:00,120 Speaker 2: Into the Reds Hall of Fame, all right, Reggie sam. 1744 01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:07,200 Speaker 15: That's the biggest joke. Can you tell me one thing, 1745 01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:09,920 Speaker 15: Gary Cheff, that Reggie Sanders did and you remember him 1746 01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:15,599 Speaker 15: poor other than fighting Dennis Martinez or Pedro Martinez. Can 1747 01:38:15,640 --> 01:38:17,160 Speaker 15: you tell me one thing he ever did? 1748 01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 1: I'm sure there was some timely hit, some some stab 1749 01:38:22,600 --> 01:38:26,559 Speaker 1: in the field he made that saved an inning, I'm sure. 1750 01:38:26,800 --> 01:38:29,680 Speaker 15: Maybe, or to be in the Reds Hall of Fame. 1751 01:38:29,760 --> 01:38:31,559 Speaker 15: I mean there was two seasons or he only played 1752 01:38:31,600 --> 01:38:35,240 Speaker 15: eighty one games. Two seasons he only played eighty one games. 1753 01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 15: He hit one hundred and twenty five home runs? 1754 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:38,160 Speaker 9: Whoop he do? 1755 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:42,000 Speaker 15: Did you ever see his postseason batting record and the 1756 01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,720 Speaker 15: two division zero? Okay, all right, horrible, all right, horrible. 1757 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 2: All right, that's that's enough on on the urinating all over. 1758 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,200 Speaker 2: Reggie Sanders wild Man. We'll save the rest for tomorrow night, 1759 01:38:52,280 --> 01:38:54,360 Speaker 2: so save up some more goo. Let me ask you 1760 01:38:54,439 --> 01:38:58,559 Speaker 2: another question that I asked said, okay, will you will 1761 01:38:58,640 --> 01:39:01,439 Speaker 2: you drop the ball on New Year's Eve? Or will 1762 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,680 Speaker 2: you be fast asleep when twenty twenty six knocks on 1763 01:39:04,760 --> 01:39:05,160 Speaker 2: our door? 1764 01:39:05,880 --> 01:39:06,000 Speaker 6: Oh? 1765 01:39:06,040 --> 01:39:09,000 Speaker 15: Well, I was supposed to go to this place out 1766 01:39:09,040 --> 01:39:12,560 Speaker 15: in Redding on Wednesday, but I think that's up in 1767 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:14,200 Speaker 15: the air. I may just stay here at the house 1768 01:39:14,240 --> 01:39:16,840 Speaker 15: and watch the Ohio State lose to Miami, and it'll 1769 01:39:16,880 --> 01:39:19,559 Speaker 15: make my It will make my New Year really nice. 1770 01:39:19,760 --> 01:39:23,080 Speaker 2: Well, oh you're not. You're not a big Buckeye fan, 1771 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:23,400 Speaker 2: are you. 1772 01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:26,040 Speaker 15: Oh I've never been a Buckeyes fan. Are you kidding me? 1773 01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:26,360 Speaker 9: Man? 1774 01:39:26,520 --> 01:39:28,439 Speaker 15: I spent six months in Columbus. 1775 01:39:28,720 --> 01:39:29,679 Speaker 9: I'll never get back. 1776 01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:31,479 Speaker 15: Oh I heard was Ohio State. 1777 01:39:31,640 --> 01:39:32,280 Speaker 6: Ohio State. 1778 01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,200 Speaker 15: Hey, Tierry Jeff there's still crying that you see beat 1779 01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,759 Speaker 15: him in the basketball title? 1780 01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:39,920 Speaker 2: Well that was what sixty five years ago? 1781 01:39:40,360 --> 01:39:42,679 Speaker 15: Yeah, they're still crying and they're still crying. 1782 01:39:42,880 --> 01:39:43,240 Speaker 2: All right. 1783 01:39:43,439 --> 01:39:46,880 Speaker 1: Uh, I've got to balance this with a shout out 1784 01:39:46,920 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: to a Buckeye fan who actually graduated from Ohio State. 1785 01:39:50,160 --> 01:39:52,080 Speaker 2: Well, I know is listening. I want to say hello 1786 01:39:52,240 --> 01:39:56,600 Speaker 2: to the oil baron of Brown County, Doug Bonnson, who was. 1787 01:39:56,920 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 15: Well, you know who was lou b There's a great 1788 01:40:01,400 --> 01:40:03,200 Speaker 15: it took place on this in nineteen seventy eight. 1789 01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:03,960 Speaker 6: It was a great day. 1790 01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:04,880 Speaker 15: It was a great day. 1791 01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:06,600 Speaker 6: I loved that it was at a buddy's house. It 1792 01:40:06,720 --> 01:40:07,479 Speaker 6: was New Year's Eve. 1793 01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:10,679 Speaker 15: This was what against Clemson on Woody Hayes punched Charlie 1794 01:40:10,720 --> 01:40:13,280 Speaker 15: Bowman and the next day Woody Hayes was fired. Boy, 1795 01:40:13,320 --> 01:40:14,360 Speaker 15: that made my New Year. 1796 01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:17,000 Speaker 2: You're a heartless soul. 1797 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:21,880 Speaker 15: He was a big sore loser, big sore loser, loudmouth 1798 01:40:22,600 --> 01:40:23,160 Speaker 15: wild man. 1799 01:40:23,240 --> 01:40:24,679 Speaker 2: We'll talk to you tomorrow night. 1800 01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:27,679 Speaker 15: So talk to you tomorrow night. I'll have the case 1801 01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:29,120 Speaker 15: of the goo really fired up. 1802 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, get some extra goo, get some industrial goo. Thank 1803 01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:36,400 Speaker 2: you and thanks for putting up with me today and 1804 01:40:36,600 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 2: for Willie uh and I have no idea. It's the holidays, Russ. 1805 01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:46,880 Speaker 2: Do you know who's on next? Dan Carroll and Jason 1806 01:40:46,920 --> 01:40:52,360 Speaker 2: Williams Where jaywill will be here in rocking Eddie Stead Next, 1807 01:40:52,880 --> 01:40:55,639 Speaker 2: I'll be on tomorrow night at nine God willing another 1808 01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,080 Speaker 2: night cap coming your way with a fresh show except 1809 01:40:59,200 --> 01:41:03,080 Speaker 2: for stay wild Man Goo here on seven hundred WLW