1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 1: The stories a stadium could tell. Biss you're the abyss 2 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:16,959 Speaker 1: starts right now Leader fan Fan Radio Network, allst negativity, 3 00:00:17,000 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: it's in this town. Sub question about that and k 4 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:25,600 Speaker 1: f a N dot com. One minute fifty four seconds 5 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 1: past three Central Standard time. Welcome you back to a 6 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:35,559 Speaker 1: Monday edition a Monday Extravaganza of the afternoon Ardvark on 7 00:00:35,800 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: a relatively balmy yet overcast Monday afternoon here in the 8 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: twin cities of Minneapolis and Saint Paul. My name is 9 00:00:42,440 --> 00:00:44,760 Speaker 1: Dan Barrero, the host of the program. Guardsy is back, 10 00:00:44,800 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 1: and we are delighted that you are here for today's 11 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,560 Speaker 1: ride going the distance. We have Wolves basketball tonight on 12 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 1: the fan. We do yes against the Atlanta Hawks. You 13 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 1: went on a flagship in edition of the Timbewels Show. 14 00:00:55,160 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 2: Exactly right, nice yep six forty five pregame, so a 15 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: fifteen minute fan on demand on the air. 16 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: We will be going until six five. The way, somebody 17 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: tried to explain what happened to the Wolves? When did 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 1: we lose the Clippers? That was yesterday Mas Saturday. Yeah, 19 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: two o'clock. That that was a schedule loss. But didn't 20 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 1: we play Friday? Wasn't there an off day in between. 21 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: So how could it be a schedule loss on Sunday 22 00:01:19,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: when because usually the schedule loss excuses only reserve for 23 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:26,400 Speaker 1: when you've played the night before. We played Friday night. 24 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: Didn't we have a day off? Yeah, because we know 25 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: we did because Finchy went off on Rudy Gobert. Yeah. 26 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: After Saturday practice, yes, or before yest some point, because 27 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 1: on Friday night, if we lose tonight, it could be 28 00:01:38,240 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: a schedule loss, right, because we're playing back to back, 29 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: even though we've had a day and a half technically 30 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: to get ready. Well, no, but I mean we but 31 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 1: we had we played yesterday. Yeah, that's true. You're saying 32 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: it was because it was a Mattene Yeah, we got 33 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: extra hours after. 34 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:52,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 35 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: Well, I don't know. It's uh, we'll get to all 36 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: that with Johnny Athletic. He's going to join at three 37 00:01:57,560 --> 00:02:01,559 Speaker 1: point thirty this afternoon. Nacho liber on Super Bowl number 38 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: sixty looks like the uh the team that Russo Radio 39 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,680 Speaker 1: is covering the US women's hockey team appears to be 40 00:02:09,760 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 1: in good although it is the dreaded two goal leading. 41 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 1: It is and they just got that too a few 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,480 Speaker 1: minutes ago. Is that Switzerland we're playing. I think that's 43 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: the SUI is Switzerland? Is it not? In the Olympic 44 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: symbol sense? And we are, Wow, we are. We're out 45 00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:26,920 Speaker 1: out gutting them all. 46 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 2: Little little fistic little yeah, little skirmish yeah, uh not 47 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: very neutral. 48 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: We've shot them thirty four to twelve. It looks like 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:40,639 Speaker 1: on the screen is what I saw, and we lead 50 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:42,400 Speaker 1: to nough. I think this is our second game. Is 51 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,919 Speaker 1: it not? Sounds right? I think that's right because I 52 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: think we dominated in our opener. There'll be plenty of 53 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,200 Speaker 1: Olympic stuff all week long here on the Bumper of 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: Bupper program. There'll be some Olympic stuff today as we 55 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: take another one more look at the Lindsay Vaughn story 56 00:02:56,760 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 1: that we explored on yesterday's broadcast. Six four six eighty 57 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: six is a Bradshaw and Bryant cafe in text line, 58 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: and it is welcome to the Abysta. We're here. The 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:12,240 Speaker 1: super Bowl is in the rearview mirror. I think the 60 00:03:12,280 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 1: groundhog saw his shadow punks Atani Phil exactly, and that 61 00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: means six more weeks of winter? Is that correct? When 62 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: he sees it? I think so? If he doesn't see it, 63 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 1: then how Is that mean winter is supposed to be shorter? 64 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,079 Speaker 1: I think, but I don't has that ever been established? 65 00:03:27,120 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: Like how many days? That's a great question, very vague, 66 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:32,760 Speaker 1: but I think he saw it. According to people who 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: are able to observe. 68 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: Pusatani, those close to punks Atani, Phil's thinking. 69 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: He said six weeks and then and they said he said, 70 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 1: it said six weeks. Man, have you ever been to uh? 71 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: Where is it in Pucksatani? Pennsylvania? Where is as that 72 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: near Philly? 73 00:03:47,720 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 2: Let's just go with it. Pittsburgh probably in between. I 74 00:03:50,840 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 2: think it's by Alta. 75 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: There was that Bill Murray movie many many years ago, 76 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: clownhog Day of classic. I want to say it was 77 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: closer to Pittsburgh than Philly. But I wonder if anybody 78 00:04:01,080 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 1: in our audience ever has ever gone to Pucksatawi. Is 79 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: there any other reason you'd go to Pucksatani then for 80 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 1: the whole groundhog tradition? Probably not. 81 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 2: It's population fifty five hundred, basically third. 82 00:04:14,240 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: Game for women's hockey. I'm being corrected by are always 83 00:04:17,440 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 1: alert and triligent audience, So I apologize for that. Man. 84 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:26,239 Speaker 1: Where is this just a little bit northeast near Pittsburgh? 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: Closer in Pittsburgh or Philly. 86 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 2: Right, Yes, it's basically straight east of Cleveland, a little southeast. 87 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,920 Speaker 1: So there's a ceremony. Right, Groundhog Day was last week? Right, 88 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: I think, yes, May of the week, whatever it was. 89 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:44,720 Speaker 1: We didn't really talk about it. But I'm wondering if 90 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: anybody in our audience has ever been there for the ceremony, 91 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: because I assume there's a ceremony. I don't know if 92 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: it's like in the movie. I haven't seen that movie 93 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,200 Speaker 1: in a long time, but they must have some kind 94 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: of a ceremony there, right. 95 00:04:56,760 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 2: They do every February second, feb two. Do we know 96 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 2: how far back that goes? 97 00:05:01,720 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Oh, let's see, I've got the Wikipedia. I bet you 98 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:06,320 Speaker 1: they love it. I bet you it's money for that community, right, 99 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:08,920 Speaker 1: I'm sure it is tourism, Yeah, tourism, the whole bit. 100 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it may not be as big as the 101 00:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: uh Interactive ice Bowl exhibit breakfast bed bed and bed 102 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 1: and breakfast and lunch and lunch place, but nevertheless it 103 00:05:19,839 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 1: might be in there. I tried to get a gurby 104 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,680 Speaker 1: going before the show. Did you see the the Micah Carson, 105 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:28,679 Speaker 1: Michael Carson, Micha Parsons. I sure did comment basically saying, 106 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: I'd love to be part of an international team in 107 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,320 Speaker 1: the National Football League. Does that mean that's what I 108 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:37,680 Speaker 1: want to believe he's already tired of being a member 109 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:40,479 Speaker 1: of the Green Bay Packers. Well, I'm guessing like London 110 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: or Amsterdam or Paris is probably a little bit more 111 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: exciting than Green Bay. 112 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:49,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be my guess. So Punks of Tiny 113 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 2: Phil was born in eighteen eighty seven, the original, so 114 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 2: it goes still alive. No, I don't think so. So, 115 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 2: I think he goes all the way back to that. 116 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:03,520 Speaker 2: It's not that far away from State College, Pennsylvania, Is 117 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: that right? It looks pretty close. Yeah, you could have gone. 118 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,200 Speaker 2: You were just there, weren't you. Weren't you just in 119 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: State College? Yeah, like a week or two ago. Yeah, 120 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 2: that's what I thought. You know, who was born there 121 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 2: or who was associated with Now I don't know if 122 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 2: this is like Dinah where they've claimed everybody, but one 123 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: of your favorites is listed in the notable people from Pocksatani. 124 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 1: I think so. I can't spell Pocksatani, but I can 125 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: say it. Who is it? Chuck Daily? Really, I had 126 00:06:35,680 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: never I knew he was from Pennsylvania. There it is Posatani. 127 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 1: Huh who knew? 128 00:06:42,160 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: I didn't You didn't when you were sitting in the 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 2: chair with a suit Yeah, right next to you. 130 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:50,479 Speaker 1: And that was unfortunate. Yeah, a suit that a suit 131 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 1: coat costs more than your costs more than every piece 132 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: of clothing I ever I've ever owned in my life. 133 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: Believe me, it was. Yeah, I was. I think it 134 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,359 Speaker 1: was pure silk talk now, how to dress, There's no 135 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 1: question about that. You know, we'll talk plenty of Super 136 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: Bowl today too. I know the But the ABYSS, this 137 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 1: is this is it given me just. 138 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:16,080 Speaker 2: In five minutes on Punks and twany Phil that's evidence 139 00:07:16,120 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: that the ABYSS. 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:18,360 Speaker 1: Is upon it. I think that is one of the 141 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: signs of it. I mean we have I mean I'd 142 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: like to think we have six, no, twelve more weeks 143 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 1: of following the Minnesota Wild and the Minnesota Timberwolves, but 144 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can count on that in 145 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: the case of one of those teams right now, and 146 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: that's the Timberwolves, which we will get to with Johnny Athletic. 147 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 1: Do you have a mutiny going on? Is this team 148 00:07:43,840 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: as vulnerable and is disjointed and perhaps even unhappy as 149 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: it seems to be right now. Man, there's a lot 150 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: of stuff going on. I will say we should feel happy. 151 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: We haven't brought this up all week. You reminded me 152 00:08:02,160 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: of this earlier today. So everybody has an opinion. You're 153 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: you claim you're happy for and you've been happy for 154 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:10,960 Speaker 1: Sam Donold. I don't know if I believe you, but 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,880 Speaker 1: that's what you say, okay, And I still think that's 156 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: a mechanism that you use a lot of mechanisms. Maybe 157 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: maybe you. The bottom line is there some people who 158 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 1: are happy for him or Vikings fans. Some people were 159 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,400 Speaker 1: bitter yep, not necessarily mad at him, but mad at 160 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,160 Speaker 1: the situation. Right. But the guy we should have spent 161 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 1: a lot more time on is a guy that everybody 162 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,080 Speaker 1: loves and that is not polarizing because he didn't play 163 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: a position. Dan, You're exactly right. Leslie Fer, assistant head 164 00:08:38,360 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: coach of the Seattle Seahawks, has got another ring, the 165 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: Super Bowl ring. 166 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:44,320 Speaker 3: Now. 167 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,800 Speaker 1: He got one as a player with the with the 168 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 1: Vike Vikings, the Bears, the nineteen eighty five Bears. Though 169 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:54,280 Speaker 1: he got hurt in the Super Bowl, badly hurt, career. 170 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it was ever the same quite frankly 171 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:59,040 Speaker 1: after that. But that's who we should feel good for. 172 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I mean, Leslie Frasier is one of those glue guys 173 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 1: who keeps this league going. Been a head coach, probably 174 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 1: should have had a second opportunity to do it after here, 175 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:18,840 Speaker 1: but regardless, has been a terrific assistant coach, defensive coordinator guy, 176 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: a guy who just knows the league, knows how to 177 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: deal with players. He's been in this forever. A lot 178 00:09:23,800 --> 00:09:25,920 Speaker 1: of winning follows him, and a lot of winning follows him. 179 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,120 Speaker 1: You're exactly right. So that's who we should feel good 180 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:32,679 Speaker 1: for about is we try to navigate our way through 181 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: the abyss. Somebody said through all of you pitchers and 182 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: catchers are reporting. Yeah, and I'll again say I rest 183 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,200 Speaker 1: my case. I mean, if that's your best comeback, I 184 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: just don't think it's gonna work. In fact, Gleeman had 185 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:51,439 Speaker 1: another one. Gleeman is now clearly clearly trolling Tom poland 186 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 1: because Tom poladd basically groused to the jackals, I really 187 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,959 Speaker 1: wish you guys would stop. It always have to be 188 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,760 Speaker 1: about payroll, and ever since Gleaman has had and I 189 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:07,559 Speaker 1: wouldn't understand this level of immaturity because I'm not capable 190 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: of this kind of trolling at all. Has made almost 191 00:10:10,120 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: every tweet about, for example, the payroll, what the Detroit 192 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: Tigers are paying their rotation alone compared to what the 193 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 1: Twins have as an entire payroll. The one today I 194 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: think was where the Twins rank in payroll, how much 195 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:31,400 Speaker 1: it's down from a year ago, which was down from 196 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:35,680 Speaker 1: the year before, And I that's you know what that's about. 197 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 1: That's the abyss. There's nothing else to talk about right now. 198 00:10:38,600 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: So we're gonna we'll navigate our way through. We'll find 199 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:43,480 Speaker 1: a way to get through, and there'll be plenty of 200 00:10:43,520 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: As I said, I didn't have it in me. I'm 201 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,320 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with you to do Super Bowl talking 202 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:52,160 Speaker 1: points today. I just I just don't think enough happened. 203 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,000 Speaker 1: It wasn't much. It just and I Common and I 204 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: were talking about this. I'm not buying that it was 205 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: just great defense. Seattle's defense is really good. I'll grant 206 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: you that. I thought Drake may was horrific. He was, 207 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: he was, and he's frankly been mediocre to horrific throughout 208 00:11:09,559 --> 00:11:12,199 Speaker 1: their run to the Super Bowl, which again tells you 209 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: about the fact that this season, in this postseason doesn't 210 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:19,840 Speaker 1: feel mythic at all. It's just it feels extremely ordinary. 211 00:11:20,480 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: And so look, Seattle has been good defensively all year, 212 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:26,319 Speaker 1: there's no there's no denying that. But I don't think 213 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:28,000 Speaker 1: it was just about good defense in that game. I 214 00:11:28,000 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 1: thought a lot of it was very inept offense time 215 00:11:31,960 --> 00:11:35,040 Speaker 1: and time again. And Darnald did the one thing he's 216 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: smart enough to figure out the one thing he couldn't do, 217 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: the only thing that was going to give New England 218 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 1: a chance to get back in that game or steal it. Turnovers, right, 219 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:46,199 Speaker 1: stupid interceptions. He had none of them in the postseason. 220 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:48,760 Speaker 1: It's right he stayed away from that. But you also 221 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 1: can't say for those who now are saying, what, well, 222 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: what did Darnald really do? Well, let's be honest. If 223 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: you want to consider Seattle the best team in the league, 224 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: the second best team in the league of the Rams, 225 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and the Seattle Seahawks don't beat the Rams and don't 226 00:12:06,679 --> 00:12:09,400 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, it's a toy with an 227 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,600 Speaker 1: absolutely overmatched New England offense. If Sam Darnold doesn't pitch 228 00:12:15,040 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 1: basically a perfect game four touchdown passes? Was it three 229 00:12:19,200 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: or four? In the title game over he's between three 230 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty and four hundred yards passing and again 231 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: no interceptions. He was terrific. Those are the two best 232 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: I think those were. That was the Super Bowl as 233 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: far as I'm concerned, it was Rams versus Seattle. That 234 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: was the game. I don't think anybody in the AFC 235 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: touches either of those teams. And I don't even think 236 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: Seattle is a great team. They they're a good team, 237 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: but they don't care. They got a ring. They've got another. 238 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:50,720 Speaker 1: Frasier has got another ring as as well. The original 239 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: Putsatani film was eaten after the first February second ritual? 240 00:12:53,600 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: Is that true? And tough scene? Man by who? I 241 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,280 Speaker 1: don't know. It's the town they were bitter about the outcome. 242 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:06,160 Speaker 1: They ran them out. Might be well, it's a different 243 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,079 Speaker 1: world then, much more of a dog eat dog. That's 244 00:13:08,080 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 1: true in the late eighteen early nineties. Correct. Well, oh well, 245 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,200 Speaker 1: let's just leave it there because I do want to 246 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: get to some I can't do super Bowl talking points 247 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:21,200 Speaker 1: because again, not enough happened to merit super Bowl talking points. 248 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:24,960 Speaker 1: But there is some stuff to discuss and yes, at 249 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: the risk of you finding me distracted for the rest 250 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: of the program, we are going to talk about the 251 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: halftime show. Oh, I waited my way into that, I 252 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:43,800 Speaker 1: thought innocently shortly after, there's no such thing. The second 253 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:48,680 Speaker 1: half began, and I am still paying the toll the 254 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: price for absolutely having the audacity, the temerity to think 255 00:13:55,600 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: that I could simply state a reaction to what I 256 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:04,559 Speaker 1: saw with my own eyes, and I got quite the education. 257 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:06,800 Speaker 1: There are two tweets that helped me in that regard. 258 00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:08,120 Speaker 2: The Fan would love to give you a shot to 259 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: win Bonus Bucks with our national cast contest. You can 260 00:14:10,480 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 2: enter the keyword bonus at KFA dot com. That's the 261 00:14:13,200 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 2: first keyword of the afternoon. Go to kfan dot com 262 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 2: and enter the keyword bonus. Does anybody else matter in 263 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 2: Olympic women's hockey except for USA and Canada? 264 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 1: Does anyone else? Is that? 265 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 3: Like? 266 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 1: Are we on one plat toe and no one else 267 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: is even close? Or there are a couple of like 268 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 1: Scandinavian teams European teaser? I should know? I think next time, 269 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: why don't we have russom probably later this week? Okay, 270 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:14,680 Speaker 1: I hope so we're up. Do I need a spoiler alert? 271 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: Maybe USA two, Switzerland nil after two periods. But these 272 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 1: are sort of like almost like exhibition games. I think 273 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 1: at this point we all know who's playing for the gold. 274 00:15:27,640 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 1: I think about what'll keep you posted. It got looked 275 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: like it was getting chippy. It was getting little chippy. 276 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: It's the Olympics. I that's true. I must tell you. 277 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: We talked not surprisingly about the breaking news yesterday, and 278 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: I finally saw it last night after the Super Bowl, 279 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: the Lindsay von crash, what eleven seconds into her downhill? Yeah, 280 00:15:55,040 --> 00:16:00,600 Speaker 1: and I will tell you that after having finally seen it, 281 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: well actually not just seeing her, but seeing the competition, 282 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: I will never look at the any downhill, but certainly 283 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:17,120 Speaker 1: the Olympic downhill event the same. Do you know why. 284 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I haven't watched enough alpine skiing in recent years, 285 00:16:22,200 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 1: but I saw skiers going down that mountain in a 286 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: different way than I've ever seen them before. NBC had 287 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: I'm assuming it was a drone or something. Maybe it 288 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 1: was one of those cameras on a wire above that 289 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 1: gave an angle and a closeness in terms of gaining 290 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: better appreciation for the speed and the turns that just 291 00:16:55,480 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 1: the sheer magnificence of the mountain and the sheer danger 292 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: of going down that thing the way they do in 293 00:17:04,119 --> 00:17:07,480 Speaker 1: a way I've never appreciated before, because a lot of 294 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:09,600 Speaker 1: times it's been the angle you expect. You might have 295 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,960 Speaker 1: one at the top, yep, and it's from up above 296 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: where they leave, and then there's from the bottom, and 297 00:17:15,520 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: they're nice camera angles, and there may even be a 298 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,679 Speaker 1: few cameras on the sides of the hills are going down. 299 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,320 Speaker 1: This one was like right off the top and me 300 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 1: conveyed the speed of this thing and the harrowing nature 301 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 1: of this thing in a way that I had never 302 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:34,000 Speaker 1: quite seen before. It was remarkable to watch. 303 00:17:33,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: Because you can say sixty five or seventy miles an hour, yes, 304 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:38,919 Speaker 2: and you can think you know that, right, But if 305 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 2: you can't really see it, does it really mean much 306 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 2: to you? 307 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 1: I agree. 308 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,320 Speaker 2: We watched some on Friday night and a little bit 309 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: on Saturday, just the practice runs and things, and I 310 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 2: was left with the same reaction. It's crazy how fast 311 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 2: they're trying to be. It's absurd, and how dangerous it 312 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:56,560 Speaker 2: is really when you think about it. 313 00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, it And so the latest information on Vaughan, and 314 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: this was detailed. We did not have when we were 315 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:07,920 Speaker 1: on yesterday for sermons. Was broken leg, right, yep, And 316 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: that's the leg that earlier she had suffered the ACL 317 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:14,720 Speaker 1: on correct. I believe it was the left. I think 318 00:18:14,720 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 1: it's the same one. 319 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 2: Yes, And her father's saying it has nothing to do 320 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 2: with the ACL Well, okay is what he's saying. 321 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 1: And that's possible. But I mean, you know, I mean, okay, 322 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: I mean that we'll get some doctors probably to weigh 323 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 1: in on that. Maybe it isn't. But also I think 324 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 1: it's not illogical to think it might have created a 325 00:18:30,560 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 1: little a little more vulnerability. And by the way, I'm 326 00:18:33,440 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: not ripping her. I'm not in the group, as you know, 327 00:18:35,200 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: ripping her for doing it. She did what she had 328 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 1: every right to do. She's an adult. She gets to 329 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 1: make these decisions. She's a superstar. She gets to make 330 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 1: those decisions. And those accommodations are going to be made 331 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: for in part because her comeback up until that had 332 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,320 Speaker 1: been so successful. That's another thing. It wasn't like, well, 333 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: she's going to race for the first time in five 334 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: years in the Olympics. She had several outstanding she won 335 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: some races. So in any case, I and as I said, 336 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 1: maybe there's alpine events that are televised for years leading 337 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,200 Speaker 1: into this Olympics where that same angle exists. But my god, 338 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: it was meant it's I've never seen any It almost 339 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 1: makes you dizzy. If you just stay focused on on 340 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:22,159 Speaker 1: the skier coming down the mountain from that angle, it 341 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: is brought a whole new appreciation. I've said this before. 342 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:31,439 Speaker 1: I don't know that even well, maybe a camera similarly positioned, 343 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: although I don't think this is practical in the case 344 00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: of the Loge would give you the same idea of 345 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: the speed, because having covered some Loge events, I can 346 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: tell you that when you just watch it on TV, 347 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: you get some sense of the speed, but it's nothing 348 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:50,360 Speaker 1: like when you're you're right beside what do they call 349 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 1: the course whatever that is that ice box, I mean 350 00:19:56,600 --> 00:20:01,040 Speaker 1: on the sled. You look, you wait for them, they're there, 351 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: and they're gone in an eyelash. That's where you really 352 00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:08,119 Speaker 1: completely understand the speed of what they're doing in this 353 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 1: little you know, I mean, well, not exactly a real 354 00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: safe whatever you call the structure that they're on, right, 355 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 1: that's in the loge, not the bob slid. That's different 356 00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 1: Bob sled also, though bob sled too is crazy fast. 357 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: You think about I always think about the scene in 358 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,679 Speaker 1: Cool Runnings with John Candy, the Jamaican bob sled national 359 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: team coach, Yes is showing the video to perspective bob 360 00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: sledders and how dangerous it is, and people are flying 361 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 1: all over the place, and one guy died and he 362 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: turns it off and nobody's there. Nobody's there at the meeting, 363 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,000 Speaker 1: and they got to find some people because it's that's 364 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:45,399 Speaker 1: how fast they're going on the ice. It's as TP 365 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,520 Speaker 1: two K guy rights. Also, it's hard to see how 366 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: steep Yes on the old broadcast. That's what I noticed 367 00:20:52,240 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: that no question this time, you're just right down, right away. 368 00:20:55,560 --> 00:20:58,400 Speaker 1: And then and then though it's it keeps, it keeps 369 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: following it, so it's not just at the top, it's 370 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: all the way down. It's whoever came up with that technology, 371 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: I mean that was That's as good a camera work 372 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:11,199 Speaker 1: as you can get in what's what's the goal of 373 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 1: all these conveying in as realistic a fashion as possible 374 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,520 Speaker 1: exactly what is taking place even though you're watching it 375 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,360 Speaker 1: on a TV screen and I get it. It's now 376 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: four it's uh. I'd say four to one K four 377 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: K four one K is very different. But nevertheless it's 378 00:21:27,440 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: it brings it to light in a way that is crazy. Now, 379 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 1: somebody says they do have a lose drone similarly, that's great, 380 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: so it would makes sense. I I I gotta believe 381 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,439 Speaker 1: it does the same thing there, probably conveys it in 382 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 1: a way that we've never quite quite seen before. All right, 383 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:45,639 Speaker 1: let's make this the bottom of the hour pause. We 384 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 1: will eventually get to Super Bowl conversation game a little 385 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: halftime I'm guessing probably more and other matters before we 386 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: wrap things up. Ben Leeber, as I said, will give 387 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: us his super Bowl super Bowl review and may be 388 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: his own ideas about what the Vikings do next to 389 00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback position and perhaps even general manager position. Ben 390 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: will be back at four forty seven. But let's let's 391 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:14,760 Speaker 1: check in on team turmoil and grumpy Gobert. Let's see 392 00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: what Johnny says. He was there for another disastrous performance 393 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:24,480 Speaker 1: yesterday against the Los Angeles Clippers of Anaheim. Where is 394 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,680 Speaker 1: this team at? Are we in any kind of serious 395 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: trouble or is this just the Bob and Weave game 396 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: that the Timberwolves constantly play, and they're gonna win their 397 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: next nine in a row. Johnny is next. It's time to. 398 00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 2: Headache. 399 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:53,919 Speaker 1: I didn't be talking about right now. It is indeed 400 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:58,479 Speaker 1: time for John Krazinski, brought you by RBC Wealth Management. 401 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: He joins us via the Connectico Water Systems hotline. Welcome back. 402 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 1: How are you, sir? 403 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 3: I'm good, Dan. How's everything there? Sunday and all the 404 00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: all the you know moros nature of football being done. 405 00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: It's there's an ABYSS. There's no question where we're identified it. 406 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: We're not going to run from it. We're gonna respect it. 407 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 1: We're not going to fear it. We may not embrace it, 408 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 1: I guess, but we have to. We can't. We got 409 00:23:24,480 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: to look in the eye. I think that's exactly what 410 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: we have to do. And you know, we like to 411 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:30,960 Speaker 1: think that one of the consolation prizes in the ABYSS 412 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: period is we have not one, but maybe two winter 413 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: sports professional sports teams that can take us well into May, right, 414 00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 1: and that has a tendency to, I guess, ease the 415 00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: pain related to the ABYSS. Right now, the team that 416 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,520 Speaker 1: looks a little bit trickier and a little bit more 417 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:53,560 Speaker 1: vulnerable than the other. Is actually the midst of a Timberwolves, 418 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,560 Speaker 1: a team that has been there twice the last two years, 419 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:59,480 Speaker 1: getting to the Final four on both occasions. I'm going 420 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: to make this my toss up question before we get 421 00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,280 Speaker 1: to what took place again yesterday and what you might 422 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 1: anticipate tonight. The Rudy Gobert postgame Friday night melt down. 423 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,000 Speaker 1: When I say meltdown, he never screams, but it's what 424 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: he had to say, definitely going several steps beyond what 425 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: he had previously. Does Rudy have a leg to stand 426 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 1: on with that dissertation, with that warning and that shot 427 00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: across the bow? If in that same game, Zion Williamson 428 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: I think went fifteen for fifteen from the Fleett field. 429 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: Actually I think it was thirteen for fifteen, but I 430 00:24:39,840 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: like to exaggerate largely thinking that, well, that's part of 431 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,000 Speaker 1: what Rudy's job is. So does Rudy's message get lost 432 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:50,920 Speaker 1: because his fingerprints were on that particular game too, or 433 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,960 Speaker 1: do you think he still does have a larger point 434 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,479 Speaker 1: that should resonate with his teammates. 435 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say both are true. Their day, 436 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,880 Speaker 3: And when you look at Rudy Gobert as an imperfect 437 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:08,000 Speaker 3: messenger for a message that definitely had to be delivered. 438 00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,199 Speaker 3: I mean, this is a team Rudy is right in 439 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 3: terms of what he has seen on the court, more 440 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: so with other players in terms of effort on defense 441 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,639 Speaker 3: versus Rudy always gives effort. 442 00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 1: If he does, I don't. 443 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,640 Speaker 3: Think that you can ever say that he's not out 444 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:28,800 Speaker 3: there just playing as hard as he possibly can. The 445 00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:34,399 Speaker 3: problem right with the timing of that message coming after 446 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 3: that game was you're right, and he got absolutely embarrassed 447 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 3: by Zion Williamson at the rim and this that came, 448 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 3: you know, two games prior to that, he was benched 449 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:49,440 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter essentially of that Memphis game when 450 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:52,520 Speaker 3: they were playing so poorly because Jaron Jackson Junior was 451 00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 3: taking it to him defensively. So for Rudy, it's more 452 00:25:56,840 --> 00:26:01,560 Speaker 3: of an execution problem than an effort. So his message 453 00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 3: should be received. But if you're not executing and playing 454 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,560 Speaker 3: at a high level, and even you know, yesterday he 455 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 3: had time turnovers and wasn't particularly good either, then then 456 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,920 Speaker 3: it's very much easier for teammates and even some coaches 457 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 3: to tune him out or to discount the content of 458 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: the message, which I do think needed to be delivered. 459 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: Do you get any sense that it did resonate with 460 00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:32,960 Speaker 1: players or do you think it is more likely that 461 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,120 Speaker 1: they're tuning that out and they don't want to hear 462 00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: it at all, or they're inn't even in denial about it. 463 00:26:40,160 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 3: I do think that some players definitely agreed with him 464 00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 3: and received the message, and then there were some players 465 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 3: who did not. And I would venture to say that 466 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 3: the players who need to adhere to it most probably 467 00:26:57,119 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 3: did not. And I mean, we don't have to beat 468 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,400 Speaker 3: around the book. I mean Rudy Gobert did not name names, 469 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,280 Speaker 3: but he clearly was pointing at Julius Randall and Anthony 470 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 3: Edwards to give more consistent effort on the defensive end. Now, 471 00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 3: when you look at the Clippers game and right the 472 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 3: next game after it, I do think Randall played harder defensively. 473 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 3: I do think that I didn't see a whole lot 474 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:25,520 Speaker 3: of that from Edwards, but I saw more energy on 475 00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,760 Speaker 3: that pide of the ball. They're just really terrible offensively. 476 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,480 Speaker 3: But the bigger issue Dan, and I think what Rudy 477 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:34,919 Speaker 3: was pointing to is that he said it. It starts 478 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,720 Speaker 3: at the top and it goes down. Those leaders have 479 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 3: to lead and be much more consistent against the bad 480 00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 3: teams against the good teams, and that's just not what 481 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 3: we're seeing right now from a lot of people on 482 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 3: the Wolves, including Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall. 483 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: Was Devincenzo pouting yesterday? Was it one shot? Two shots? 484 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,439 Speaker 1: Three shots? I mean, yeah, filed out? I mean what what? What? 485 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: How do you how do you kind of translate and 486 00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: maybe interpret what happened there, because as you say, generally 487 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,040 Speaker 1: it was more offensive dysfunction against the Clippers than it 488 00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:10,640 Speaker 1: was defense. 489 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say that the way that I read it, 490 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,440 Speaker 3: and we talked to him after the game. He did 491 00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:18,880 Speaker 3: not say this, But the way that I read it 492 00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:23,320 Speaker 3: was that the reason that Devincenzo did fool out was 493 00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 3: more about what was happening on the offensive end. And 494 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:35,399 Speaker 3: right now, opposing defenses are really scheming to limit the 495 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 3: Timberwolves ball movement, to make Julius Randall and Anthony Edwards 496 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 3: play in crowds and like be surrounded, and the ball 497 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 3: is not moving around to enough to really take advantage 498 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 3: of Devincenzo and of Jane McDaniels. When those two guys 499 00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 3: are involved, and Chris Finch said it after the game 500 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 3: and said, I need to get them ten shots a game. 501 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: When those two guys are not involved, then the offense 502 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 3: is very stagnant, and that's what it was against the Clippers, 503 00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: And so I do think Devincenzo was frustrated with that stagnancy, 504 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 3: with the lack of movement, and he missed a couple 505 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 3: of shots that he should have made as well, and 506 00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,360 Speaker 3: so then you found just undisciplined fouling, and that kind 507 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 3: of led to him following out was that his head 508 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,680 Speaker 3: wasn't in the game defensively because he was not happy 509 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,680 Speaker 3: with how things are going offensively. 510 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,640 Speaker 1: More generally speaking, they got, what do we have two 511 00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,200 Speaker 1: games left before the All Star break? 512 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 513 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: Is that correct? Including tonight and then Wednesday. So no, 514 00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: you're around this team as much as anybody, more than 515 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: than most. Everybody's trying to again figure out, well, what 516 00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: if they turn around and win the next seven in 517 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: a row, and then we feel stupid for overreacting. But 518 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 1: based on what you're hearing, observing, seeing, sensing, does this 519 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: feel a little bit more serious? Is there something coming 520 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: loose with this team right now, that that that indicates 521 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: potentially a danger zone here. 522 00:30:06,000 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 3: Well, here's what I'll say on that, Dan, and generally 523 00:30:08,080 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 3: speaking on pragmatic I know the season is very long. 524 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 3: I know there are going to be ups and down, 525 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 3: so you're not gonna hear, in general, a lot of 526 00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: hyperventilating for me, a lot of hot takes about this 527 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: guy needs to be fired or this is it's all over, 528 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 3: this is not working because I have seen this particular 529 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 3: team and this coaching staff figure things out as the 530 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 3: regular season goes along and get to play in their 531 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 3: best basketball post All Star Break into the playoffs. That's 532 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 3: generally how this team has worked for the last couple 533 00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:41,560 Speaker 3: of years. So I'm I don't want to be alarmist 534 00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 3: and you know, and really just say, hey, everything is 535 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: wrong here. That said, it is hard not to react 536 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 3: when the big man, their their their defensive Player of 537 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: the Year candidate center is really frontally calling out the 538 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: team after a game, when the head coach is really 539 00:31:01,600 --> 00:31:04,120 Speaker 3: making it clear that he did not like that at all. 540 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:08,640 Speaker 3: And I think offering not the best response to Rudy 541 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 3: Gobert's real critiques of the way the coaching staff is 542 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,880 Speaker 3: operating the way the players are operating, and you just 543 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: look around and you feel it in the locker room. 544 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 3: There's a disconnect right now. I think it absolutely can 545 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 3: be fixed. I think that a little time away from 546 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 3: each other over the All Star break might be exactly 547 00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:32,000 Speaker 3: what the doctor ordered. But if I can't say that 548 00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 3: nothing is wrong, because that would be just completely ignoring 549 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 3: all of the signs that we are seeing right now 550 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 3: with this team. And so that's the way that I 551 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 3: look at it is that you have to document a 552 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 3: season as it goes, and we are in a low 553 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 3: point right now, and the guys are not seeing eye 554 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 3: to eye, and the coaching staff is not kind of resonating, 555 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 3: and all of these things are happening, and so if 556 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 3: they turn it around, this will be part of the story. 557 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 3: But it is a part of the story right now. 558 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: Many times, Johnny, as you well know, coaches applaud veteran 559 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: players at locker room who go as frontal as Rudy did. 560 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:14,360 Speaker 3: Not. 561 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: So with Finchy, as you say, he was clearly cranky 562 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: and dare I say a bit defensive about it the 563 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: next day? Why do you think he had that reaction? 564 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we have not talked about this, but my 565 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 3: read on it, being around Chris Finch for five and 566 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 3: a half years and knowing him a lot longer than that, 567 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: I think that it was about the timing of things. 568 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 3: I think that he did see that Rudy was not 569 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 3: doing what needed to be done and was not doing 570 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 3: his end of the bargain, and so to kind of 571 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:50,360 Speaker 3: point the finger elsewhere, it might be like, hey, why 572 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 3: don't you guard your own yard first and then we 573 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,600 Speaker 3: can talk about it. But the other thing that I 574 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 3: do think is important in interpreting Finch's message is when 575 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:03,080 Speaker 3: he said we're not the substitute out of this. That 576 00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,160 Speaker 3: can feel dismissive, and I think it was, and I 577 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 3: don't think it was the best worded response, But basically, 578 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,520 Speaker 3: what Chris Finch is saying is, look, guys, but we're 579 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 3: not going to win in May. If it's if I'm 580 00:33:16,040 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 3: replacing Anthony Edwards and Julius Randall with Jalen Clark and 581 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 3: Yan Barnet, like, these are the guys that have to 582 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,520 Speaker 3: be better, right, and so we've got to get them 583 00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 3: to figure it out, and they've got to take ownership 584 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:29,480 Speaker 3: of it, and they've got to get through it. Because 585 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 3: those are the guys that are going to lead us 586 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: into the Promised Land. And so that's his approach to it, 587 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 3: and that's why I think he got a little prickly 588 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 3: with it. And like I said, I didn't like the 589 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:44,880 Speaker 3: response necessarily, but I do kind of see the logic 590 00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: or at least what is going through his mind when 591 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 3: he hears that and he thinks about what this team 592 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 3: needs to do right now. 593 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,720 Speaker 1: So is you know, I'm getting a lot of questions 594 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 1: and we usually get them about a time like this, 595 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:03,239 Speaker 1: about whether there's any sense that fair or unfair, This 596 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: doesn't have to have anything to do with fairness, that we're 597 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:11,440 Speaker 1: seeing signs of players who are not quite willing to 598 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 1: accept and act upon the messages and the coaching from 599 00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 1: Chris Finch that we have tended to see. Any Do 600 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,920 Speaker 1: you think there's any concern about that or there should 601 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 1: be any concern about that? 602 00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:27,600 Speaker 3: Well, yeah, I think that we can have this conversation 603 00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 3: for sure, man, because you're a lot of people who 604 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 3: want to point the finger at Chris Finch here are 605 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,920 Speaker 3: saying like, look, these guys are kind of having the 606 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:45,080 Speaker 3: same lackluster starts, the same unmotivated approach against lesser teams 607 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,120 Speaker 3: over and over and over again. Why isn't this coach 608 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,000 Speaker 3: getting through to them? And I would say that there 609 00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:53,879 Speaker 3: is some validity to that. Right now, it's clear that 610 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 3: there is some sort of mental hurdle that this team faces, 611 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 3: especially against teams five hundred, that Chris Finch part of 612 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:06,799 Speaker 3: his responsibility is to figure out ways to get them 613 00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 3: through this, and whether that is staying with his guys 614 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: and just plowing through, whether that is changing the rotations 615 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,320 Speaker 3: and getting fresh blood in there, something is he's falling 616 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:21,280 Speaker 3: short as well as the player. Now that said, I 617 00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 3: also don't believe that this is a Chris Finch needs 618 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 3: to be fire thing. This is a he's been here 619 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 3: too long, he's lost the locker room. I do not 620 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 3: believe that at all. When you talk to players, both 621 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:38,240 Speaker 3: publicly and privately, there is very little grumbling about coach 622 00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:40,520 Speaker 3: should be doing this and he should be doing that, 623 00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 3: like there isn't that. There's a lot of players just 624 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:45,920 Speaker 3: taking more ownership on themselves and saying, you know, Anthony 625 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:47,959 Speaker 3: Edwards has said it, we've got to follow the game plan. 626 00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 3: We don't do that enough and that and that gets 627 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,560 Speaker 3: us in trouble. Now it is on Chris Finch to 628 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 3: get them to follow the game plan, for sure. But 629 00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:59,880 Speaker 3: this is a case right now where I think that 630 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,239 Speaker 3: there is ownership in the struggle with everyone, including the 631 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:06,600 Speaker 3: coaching staff, which has to find a way to lighten 632 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 3: this load. Right now. This is the moodiest team I've 633 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 3: ever recovered in my twenty two years. And part of 634 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 3: being a coaching staff is to have a a psychologist 635 00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 3: degree in addition to x as and o's. And I 636 00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 3: think if you're saying where is Chris Finch falling short 637 00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:26,640 Speaker 3: right now, it's in the mental aspect of it and 638 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: getting these guys to just take some of the pianos 639 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 3: off their backs that they're carrying right now. 640 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 1: So you mentioned mood was I thought the term that 641 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,480 Speaker 1: Finchy used sometime in the last couple of days is 642 00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: a foul mood. We have players who can get into. 643 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,840 Speaker 1: That's the expression. Yeah, And I'm that was new to me. 644 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:48,000 Speaker 1: Maybe he has used that expression before, And I'm thinking, 645 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: what the hell does that mean? Exactly what how I'd 646 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:57,399 Speaker 1: never heard that expression before in a coach, seemingly describing 647 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:01,239 Speaker 1: the personality of several of the So how do we 648 00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: deconstruct that? What does that even mean. 649 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll just tell you what it means. Dan. You know, 650 00:37:08,280 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 3: you look at a lot of the guys on this 651 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 3: roster and they do ride an emotional roller coaster that 652 00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 3: I think is a little more volatile than maybe your 653 00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 3: average team. Julius Randall has said it himself before that 654 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,160 Speaker 3: he is an up and down, a moody guy. He joked, 655 00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 3: I think in a recent article about you know, I 656 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to be a coach because I wouldn't want 657 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 3: to deal with you know, fifteen players like me. Yeah, 658 00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 3: and he recognizes that. He goes up and down kind 659 00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 3: of with you know, the the way the team is 660 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 3: going and what particularly is happening on a night in 661 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,160 Speaker 3: a night out basis, and and so when he is 662 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,680 Speaker 3: locked in and engaged, he's all NBA level. We saw 663 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 3: it earlier this year when he is struggling with like 664 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,960 Speaker 3: the trade rumors and things, which I believe he did 665 00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:01,279 Speaker 3: for this last couple of weeks, then he goes kind 666 00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 3: of down into the tank a little bit, and it 667 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: has engaged Nazrid goes up and down. Dante DiVincenzo is 668 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 3: moody in a different way in that he's kind of 669 00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 3: just he's hot blooded like, and so when frustrations happen, 670 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 3: then that kind of takes over his body a little bit. 671 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:23,080 Speaker 3: Jada McDaniels had stone faced as he is within games, 672 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:26,840 Speaker 3: can just kind of lose his temper and make silly 673 00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 3: fowls and get himself into into difficulties that way. And 674 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 3: so there's just a bunch of guys that go up 675 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,920 Speaker 3: and down with and El say, I think some of 676 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 3: the coaches do as well. I think sometimes they do 677 00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:43,640 Speaker 3: hold the steering wheel a little too tight when when 678 00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 3: things are going poorly, and and I think that there's 679 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:53,520 Speaker 3: a lot of sort of lamenting the actions rather than 680 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,560 Speaker 3: just saying, all right, let's just we've gotten through this before. 681 00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 3: Let's figure out a way to ease the burdens and go. 682 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 3: It's not as bad as it thinks as it feels. 683 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 3: And so kind of across the board on this team, 684 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,600 Speaker 3: the temperature rises and falls quickly. So when they are 685 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,359 Speaker 3: up they're as good as anybody, I mean they are, 686 00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:15,560 Speaker 3: and when they are down they can be as bad 687 00:39:15,560 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 3: as anybody. And that's a that's a frustrating thing for 688 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 3: anyone to experience, especially a coach trying to lead them. 689 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: Do we have a team shrink. If not, maybe we 690 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,120 Speaker 1: need one, Maybe we need some cutting they do. Yeah, 691 00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: I would just assume that we already have one. But 692 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,480 Speaker 1: I mean that was Joe Ingalls. I thought that's why 693 00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 1: he was here, supposed to be honoficially. 694 00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:37,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, there's certainly. I mean one of the guys 695 00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 3: who is a regular on your show is not around 696 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 3: right now. Yeah, and I you know, we can say, okay, 697 00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 3: it's Mike Conley. You know he's not playing. Well, that's right. 698 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,200 Speaker 3: I don't think they miss him on the court right now, 699 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 3: I really don't. I think they missed him in the 700 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,000 Speaker 3: locker room. Interesting, and he was a guy who was 701 00:39:52,000 --> 00:39:55,080 Speaker 3: a team psychologist for them. They have a real team psychologist. 702 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,840 Speaker 3: But I do think that players in general are a 703 00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 3: little resistant. 704 00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:01,400 Speaker 1: To like sure, really engage in that stuff. 705 00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 3: A lot of times, and so how effective I'm not sure. 706 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:09,440 Speaker 3: But but the team psychologist is Mike Conley, and he 707 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:12,919 Speaker 3: will be back in maybe two weeks. But right now 708 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 3: you feel a void in there of the the guy 709 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 3: who just grabs someone around the shoulder, whispers in his ear, 710 00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,479 Speaker 3: kind of pulls his head out of it and and 711 00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,319 Speaker 3: and that's that that is not there. Right now, and 712 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,000 Speaker 3: it is felt in that locker Finchy Saturday. 713 00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: The direct quote, I think a lot of our low 714 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: energy plays comes from a collective kind of foul moved. 715 00:40:34,280 --> 00:40:36,319 Speaker 1: So those are things that I try to identify. And 716 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 1: that's deep, man, that's just that's just fascinates me. You 717 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:45,439 Speaker 1: mentioned Conley. Will you give the shorthand the not two 718 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:50,800 Speaker 1: inside Baseball? Uh, I guess approach on why the delay 719 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 1: and whether in your mind it is going to help 720 00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:58,560 Speaker 1: open the door. Uh, once these buyouts take place of 721 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: maybe picking up another name player at least with a 722 00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:04,760 Speaker 1: name that might be past his prime, but who wolfsh 723 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: fans or basketball fans might recognize. 724 00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, so, Dan, I'll just try to be quick. I 725 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:12,360 Speaker 3: won't get into the exact numbers and stuff, but basically, 726 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,240 Speaker 3: right now, the Timberwolves are just under the first apron 727 00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:21,080 Speaker 3: of the collective bargaining agreement, the salary cap. 728 00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:21,520 Speaker 1: And so. 729 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:27,439 Speaker 3: Whenever they bring Mike Conley back, they will bring him 730 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 3: back on a pro rated portion of the league minimum. 731 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,480 Speaker 3: So they're gonna save a ton of money that way. 732 00:41:33,880 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 3: By you know, every day they say thousands and thousands 733 00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 3: of dollars toward that. That's nice for the bottom line 734 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:42,560 Speaker 3: of the owners and for their pocketbooks. But really what 735 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,479 Speaker 3: also really helps here is the longer that they keep 736 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:49,200 Speaker 3: him out, the more room under that first apron that 737 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:53,480 Speaker 3: they have to be able to sign another veteran on 738 00:41:53,520 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 3: the buyout market when he hits, and so they if 739 00:41:57,000 --> 00:42:00,360 Speaker 3: they were to bring him back immediately, they may not 740 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,920 Speaker 3: have enough room to add whoever gets bought out. You know, 741 00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 3: cam Thomas just got bout out. He got picked up 742 00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:10,279 Speaker 3: by Milwaukee. But you know, whether it's a DeMar DeRozan, 743 00:42:10,440 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 3: whether you know someone like that that comes around you, 744 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 3: you would say, okay, you need just enough money to 745 00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 3: stay under that first apron and and still be able 746 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,879 Speaker 3: to add. Because the first apron is a hard cap 747 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 3: right now to the Timberwolves, the way they've operated, they 748 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 3: can't go over it. So uh, they have to wait 749 00:42:26,239 --> 00:42:28,759 Speaker 3: a couple of weeks. So then they'll have you know, 750 00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,359 Speaker 3: one point five two million dollars underneath left for Mike 751 00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 3: Conley and for a another body should they want to 752 00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:35,799 Speaker 3: add it. 753 00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:37,359 Speaker 1: Are there any interesting names there? 754 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:41,479 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I do. I'm the Kings have said 755 00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 3: that they're not going to buy out de Rozen, but 756 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,880 Speaker 3: that's that's one that I would really yeah, kind of 757 00:42:46,960 --> 00:42:51,439 Speaker 3: watch closely because uh, he would be a very nice edition. 758 00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:54,040 Speaker 3: A lot of the other guys there there, There will 759 00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 3: be real guys available, and I think, you know, maybe 760 00:42:56,520 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 3: it's a backup center, maybe it's a wing, maybe it 761 00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:02,359 Speaker 3: is a point guard, someone like that, but a lot 762 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:05,120 Speaker 3: of them. You know. It sounds great in theory, but 763 00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:07,799 Speaker 3: do they really helping the playoffs? Probably not. If a 764 00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,480 Speaker 3: guy like DeMar Derozen were to become available, I think 765 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 3: there's a real chance he could help in a playoff series. 766 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,480 Speaker 3: So we'll see if the Kings do that or not. 767 00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 3: But that's the name that I'm watching closely. 768 00:43:17,719 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: Is it, given this backdrop, given what has played out 769 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:25,640 Speaker 1: the last several games, and especially the last two, do 770 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,600 Speaker 1: these last two games before the break suddenly have outsized 771 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: importance beyond how important they would ordinarily be. What do 772 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:33,479 Speaker 1: you think? 773 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,879 Speaker 3: I mean? I think so, Dan, because you know, they 774 00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 3: came off of the road, they had a great win 775 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 3: in Toronto and they were a place where they literally 776 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 3: never win, and Toronto's really good this year. So you 777 00:43:44,320 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 3: pull that one out. Anthony Edwards puts his cape on 778 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,560 Speaker 3: in a thrilling victory, and so then you look at 779 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,840 Speaker 3: you come out of that game, the trade deadline is over, 780 00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: the drama is done, and then all of a sudden, 781 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 3: you have four home games going into the break, all 782 00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:03,319 Speaker 3: against teams that are very beatable, and you say, man, 783 00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:06,520 Speaker 3: this would be really nice to go into the break 784 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 3: with a five game winning streak. You could maybe climb 785 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 3: up to third in the West and really position yourself 786 00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:16,440 Speaker 3: coming out. But now they've lost the first two, one 787 00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:20,279 Speaker 3: to the terrible Pelicans, to the Clippers post trade who 788 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,720 Speaker 3: only had w why Leonard, And that's it, and now 789 00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,680 Speaker 3: you know you're playing the Hawks night. I mean, you 790 00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:28,000 Speaker 3: kind of got to win these last two just to 791 00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:32,480 Speaker 3: stabilize yourself because once the All Star break list, it's 792 00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:35,760 Speaker 3: twenty six games, like, that's it. This is a sprint 793 00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,600 Speaker 3: to the finish. We're not at the halfway point, and 794 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,520 Speaker 3: so there's a lot of travel at the end of 795 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:45,200 Speaker 3: the season. I really do think the Wolves really need 796 00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:48,520 Speaker 3: to stabilize themselves and win these home games now and 797 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,400 Speaker 3: just get back feeling decently as you go off and 798 00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 3: get a much needed break. 799 00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 1: Lastly, is there a magic cure, any sort of miracle 800 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:03,520 Speaker 1: salve for this league when it comes to discouraging or 801 00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,399 Speaker 1: minimizing of some of the some of the announcements that 802 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: that were revealed over the weekend, UH and decisions including 803 00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: I believe Utah set up with a healthy league going 804 00:45:15,840 --> 00:45:19,560 Speaker 1: to the fourth quarter, they sit their two best players, 805 00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:23,439 Speaker 1: Marketing and the aforementioned Jackson to help make sure they 806 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,000 Speaker 1: lose that game because they want to keep losing games. 807 00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,759 Speaker 1: You've got Washington basically making two big acquisitions and they've 808 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:33,840 Speaker 1: already announced they're shutting down both players the rest of 809 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,840 Speaker 1: the season. It's such a bad look. We all know 810 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: why teams are doing it, but is there anything from 811 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:44,160 Speaker 1: a lottery standpoint or even you think that a commissioner 812 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: on his own can do to discourage the kind of 813 00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 1: stuff that I think just gives this league a terrible look. 814 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you, Dan, I hate it. I 815 00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:57,120 Speaker 3: hate watching it, and as a huge basketball fan, I 816 00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,560 Speaker 3: do think it needs to be addressed. 817 00:45:59,000 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: UH. 818 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:01,880 Speaker 3: If they remain the status quo, there's nothing that will 819 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:06,680 Speaker 3: just discourage teams because the idea that you could get 820 00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:10,239 Speaker 3: a Cooper Flag, that you could get Anthony Edwards, that 821 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:12,760 Speaker 3: you could get any of these one player can change 822 00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:16,279 Speaker 3: the fortunes of a franchise so dramatically that it's just 823 00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:21,040 Speaker 3: there's too much incentive for teams two tank. But I've 824 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 3: heard a couple of propositions that at least make me 825 00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 3: think about it a little bit. Like one is, what 826 00:46:27,880 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 3: if you broadened the depths of the lottery pool to 827 00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 3: all the teams that lose in the first round of 828 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,920 Speaker 3: the playoffs as well, So I think it'd be twenty 829 00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 3: two teams rather than fourteen, And so then the lottery 830 00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:43,960 Speaker 3: odds are even thinner, and then there is a little 831 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:46,520 Speaker 3: more incentive to go for a playoffs because you're still 832 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 3: in the mix. 833 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:47,279 Speaker 1: There. 834 00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 3: That's intriguing to me. The other one that really kind 835 00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,480 Speaker 3: of interests me is what if you didn't have this 836 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 3: in season tournament anymore, And what if at the end 837 00:46:56,920 --> 00:47:00,600 Speaker 3: of the season you had the playoffs, but then you 838 00:47:00,680 --> 00:47:05,280 Speaker 3: also had a different playoffs for all the lottery teams, 839 00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,040 Speaker 3: and the team that wins that actually gets the number 840 00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,880 Speaker 3: number one pick. And And it's like, so there's so 841 00:47:11,920 --> 00:47:15,080 Speaker 3: there's at least like there's teams that try hard to 842 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,480 Speaker 3: do it, to do something at the end of the year, 843 00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:22,600 Speaker 3: rather than these you know, blaytant and disgusting, frankly methods 844 00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 3: that they do to to just trick away games, and 845 00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:29,279 Speaker 3: and and and improve their their their lottery odds, even 846 00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:30,719 Speaker 3: just by a percentage point or two. 847 00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 1: Lastly, is there any possibility that Desumo, if he could, 848 00:47:37,040 --> 00:47:38,799 Speaker 1: would ask to be traded back to the Bulls At 849 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:39,280 Speaker 1: this point? 850 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:42,560 Speaker 3: It's not a good first impression, I Dan. I mean, 851 00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 3: you come in and you watch watch the bench on 852 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,719 Speaker 3: from the bench on on Friday, and it's the Pelicans. 853 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:50,520 Speaker 3: They have their way with him, and then you know, 854 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:52,680 Speaker 3: and then the first game he's a minus thirty three 855 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:54,879 Speaker 3: and you could tell he just doesn't really know where 856 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: to go just yet. But yeah, this is this is 857 00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 3: the he's entering the season at Elope. So maybe you 858 00:48:00,680 --> 00:48:03,120 Speaker 3: can say, hey, only nowhere to go but up here, 859 00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,360 Speaker 3: Io hang in with us. But I imagine this feels a 860 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560 Speaker 3: little bit familiar to what he saw in Chicago for sure. 861 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,359 Speaker 1: Thank you, Johnny, have a great week, well try Dan. 862 00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: That is John Krasinski Johnny Athletic, brought to you by 863 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: RBC Wealth Management. I think with a very good overview 864 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:22,719 Speaker 1: of the current condition of your favorite basketball team, lots 865 00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:25,000 Speaker 1: of good texts have coming in on that subject. We'll 866 00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,000 Speaker 1: explore some of those. We'll prepare for Ben Lieber at 867 00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:31,239 Speaker 1: four forty seven. Keep you posted on some Olympic stuff 868 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 1: as well, don'