WEBVTT - 12-15-25 Sloan with Alicia Reece

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<v Speaker 1>Do you want to be in a Manican scout's long

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<v Speaker 1>back at It's seven hundred WW on the coldest winter morning.

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<v Speaker 1>We had a long time six inches of snow over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend Saturday. It was beautiful if you watch it

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<v Speaker 1>yes day, a little chili, especially ahead of the Bengals game.

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<v Speaker 1>We had warnings danger with the cold tempts which means

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<v Speaker 1>hypothermi and frostbite.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me lay it out for you. The coldest day

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<v Speaker 2>ever at pay.

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<v Speaker 1>Course Stadium yesterday, and you ask fans to get up

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<v Speaker 1>early to clear the ice and snow from your driveways,

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<v Speaker 1>clear the ice and snow off your cars, buy extra clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>probably drive on icy roads, pay to park, pay for seats,

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<v Speaker 1>and the county taxi as well. They just shelled out

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<v Speaker 1>over two hundred million dollars to upgrade. You get to

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<v Speaker 1>the stadium for the Bengals Ravens tilt and then you

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<v Speaker 1>have to clean your seats off yourself and sit with

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<v Speaker 1>your feet and butts on more snow and ice to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them lay a twenty four to nothing lopsided egg

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<v Speaker 1>against Baltimore to be officially eliminated from playoff contention. Now

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<v Speaker 1>for the third year in a row, what am I

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<v Speaker 1>missing here? I don't think I'm missing anything. It is

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<v Speaker 1>seatgate on this Monday morning on seven hundred WLW, we

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<v Speaker 1>have Alisha Reese here and clean your own seat day

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<v Speaker 1>at pay Corpse Stadium.

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<v Speaker 2>Yesterday Alicia, welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>We just paid two hundred and twelve million dollars, gave

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<v Speaker 1>the Bengals counting money, taxpayer money to redo pay Corps

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<v Speaker 1>and here we go again.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to clean your own seats off. Now what

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<v Speaker 2>are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh my gosh. Well, first of all, Sloan, I would

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<v Speaker 3>hope that the media this is what frustrates me when

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<v Speaker 3>they report this. In terms of the Bengals Least deal,

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<v Speaker 3>it was not unanimous. I've voted against it. I did

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<v Speaker 3>not support the two hundred and eleven million dollars last Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>which has seemed really rushed. I said, now, what are

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<v Speaker 3>we rushing to pay this two hundred and eleven million

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<v Speaker 3>plus dollars to the Bengals when the least is eleven

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<v Speaker 3>years and we passed that. I did not support it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't vote yes as that was passed before. We

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<v Speaker 3>have passed the balanced budget that we have to do.

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<v Speaker 3>We have the budget, the People's budget, which is due

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<v Speaker 3>this week. We have to pass that by by Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>But it seemed to be a rush before this game

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<v Speaker 3>to hurry up. We had to sell notes, check out

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<v Speaker 3>more debt which comes with interest, and it was a rush.

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<v Speaker 3>And we normally vote on Thursdays, but they were rushing.

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<v Speaker 3>We got a payer, we got to upgrade the stadium

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<v Speaker 3>for the future, and I kept saying, well would we

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<v Speaker 3>do this before? Right now we got a budget where

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<v Speaker 3>Prosecutor office may be laying off people. We haven't balanced

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<v Speaker 3>it yet. We have a budget right now because of

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<v Speaker 3>this lease that I voted against. The property text for

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<v Speaker 3>homeowners is going to go up next year in a month,

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of weeks, they're going to get their bills,

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<v Speaker 3>and you didn't want to give the homeowners a break.

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<v Speaker 3>But there seems to have been this rush or to

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<v Speaker 3>vote on a Tuesday, I believe, or Thursday. They were saying,

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<v Speaker 3>talk about it on Tuesday. But the rush a week

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<v Speaker 3>before the budget is due to be passed to give

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<v Speaker 3>the Bengals over two hundred million dollars. And then we

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<v Speaker 3>we have Sunday with this situation where the seats aren't

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the seats aren't aren't cleaned. Everyone else was

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<v Speaker 3>making sure the city and everyone else was trying to

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<v Speaker 3>make sure that the streets and all those things were clean.

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<v Speaker 3>Because this wasn't like a surprise snow right.

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<v Speaker 2>We saw this, We saw this coming, We saw this coming.

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<v Speaker 2>He was coming.

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<v Speaker 1>We had to clean our driveways, our cars. But the

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<v Speaker 1>good news here is that according to the team in

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<v Speaker 1>the NFL rule book, by the way, says that you're

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<v Speaker 1>required to remove snow from the entire seating bowl before games.

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<v Speaker 1>The NFL said, well, the Bengals did the bare minimum

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<v Speaker 1>to meet that requirement. But it's not the first time

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<v Speaker 1>this has happened. Happened a year I think two years

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<v Speaker 1>ago where the seats weren't cleaned off. That is a

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<v Speaker 1>fan safety issue during severe weather. And so what what

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<v Speaker 1>enforcement mechanisms does a county have. Do you have any

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<v Speaker 1>any saying their their ability to keep fans safe.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, keywords you said was bare minimum, and that's what

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<v Speaker 3>we've seen. There's been a bare minimum, and then it's

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<v Speaker 3>on the backs of the taxpayers. One of the things

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure because you always got to

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<v Speaker 3>read the fine print when I get down to back

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<v Speaker 3>down to the office, I wanted to ask the administrator.

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<v Speaker 3>I want to make sure there's no small print or

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<v Speaker 3>any written clause that turns it back on the taxpayers

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<v Speaker 3>of Hamilton County, because a lot of things that in

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<v Speaker 3>the in these leases, they've been very uh you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being an ownership has been very good at flipping things back.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh you know that has any cost association, it gets

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<v Speaker 3>slipped back to the county. So you one of the

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<v Speaker 3>reasons I've been one of waits to hear from our

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<v Speaker 3>administrator because I don't want to have something that he said, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 3>you know in this over here it was a little

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<v Speaker 3>line and we agreed to pay for it, because there's

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of things in that lease that in other

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<v Speaker 3>other owners other markets, they you know, the team pays

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<v Speaker 3>forwards the ownership, and in our market there seems to

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<v Speaker 3>be a lot of things that fall on the tax payers.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I want to make sure before speaking definitively

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<v Speaker 3>that that hadn't slipped in somewhere and all of a

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<v Speaker 3>sudden it becomes you know, miss counties.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the good news is that I have a copy

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<v Speaker 1>of the master agreement here and it is on page

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<v Speaker 1>nine thirty seven, Paragraph twenty eight, sub Section eleven double E.

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<v Speaker 1>It says that any finds levied by the National Football

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<v Speaker 1>League relative to snow removal shall be under the sole

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<v Speaker 1>province and paid exclusively. Commissioner Alsia reesea Hamlin County.

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<v Speaker 2>What do you make it?

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<v Speaker 3>I know they love to hear that. That's why I

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<v Speaker 3>said no.

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<v Speaker 2>To this, least, no to the least at.

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<v Speaker 3>Least put it on. It's always and also don't want

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<v Speaker 3>as they say, well, now you know, because we got

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<v Speaker 3>these new changes and we'll slip it in and and

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<v Speaker 3>that's what I hear. A lot of it always flips

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<v Speaker 3>back to the to the taxpayers, and so that's where

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<v Speaker 3>I have some concern and making sure, yes we do

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<v Speaker 3>have facilities people, Yes we do have those things, but

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<v Speaker 3>we should not be paying for all of the extras.

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<v Speaker 3>And that's what usually happens to to uh, to us,

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<v Speaker 3>what I've seen in my years of you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>few years of being down there, it has been shocking

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<v Speaker 3>to me. But but no, it was a flap of

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<v Speaker 3>the face to to the to the fans, and we knew.

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<v Speaker 3>Everyone knew that this weather was coming. They knew when

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<v Speaker 3>the snow was falling. They even reported when it was

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<v Speaker 3>going to stop falling. They knew that the the that

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<v Speaker 3>it was going to get colder and all those kind

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<v Speaker 3>of things. And at this at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 3>you have the word bear minimum. And that's what's been going.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the subject on my show today. We'll get after

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<v Speaker 2>you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk more about the bare minimums because

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<v Speaker 1>that really is what what the driver here is.

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<v Speaker 3>UH.

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<v Speaker 1>With with the legendary cost cutting measures of teams have

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<v Speaker 1>during the negotiations during contracts, have you ever raised concerns

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<v Speaker 1>with team ownership about a pattern of prioritizing profit and

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<v Speaker 1>expenses over fan experience.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, we started with that. I said, well, wait a minute,

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<v Speaker 3>because remember I was on your show and there were

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<v Speaker 3>some concerns about the seats that are not in the

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<v Speaker 3>club level where they can make more money. Remember I said,

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<v Speaker 3>what about the seats up at the top when they

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<v Speaker 3>were redoing seats brought broken the broken escalator. We were

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<v Speaker 3>talking about that. So I have constantly been on fan

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<v Speaker 3>experience when they come down there, whether they're coming down

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<v Speaker 3>for a game or another event, but fan experience. And

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<v Speaker 3>then remember they we got these reports about we we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, the stadium didn't get good. Uh, didn't get

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<v Speaker 3>good grades nationally. As the talk, they even went into

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<v Speaker 3>the food. Remember they talked about the food for the

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<v Speaker 3>for the team players families and uh, they also talked

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<v Speaker 3>about help we got food. Remember for disability, a gentleman

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't get to the restroom because it's not just it's

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<v Speaker 3>not accessible throughout the whole stadium. I even talked about

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<v Speaker 3>going into the stadium. They would have people. Uh they

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<v Speaker 3>would say, well, no, you got to go all the

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<v Speaker 3>way to the other side of a person walking with

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<v Speaker 3>a walker trying to get to the sensibilities area. And

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<v Speaker 3>I said, listen to all areas this twenty twenty, you

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<v Speaker 3>know five all areas should be accessible in this day

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<v Speaker 3>and climate. And so those were some of the things

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<v Speaker 3>that we keep hearing that we are always doing the

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<v Speaker 3>bare minimum with the top dollar on the taxpayers. Even

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<v Speaker 3>in this deal, they come in and say, well, we're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna do the bare minimum for the homeowners, even though

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<v Speaker 3>the homeowners were promised thirty percent were gonna do the

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<v Speaker 3>bare minimum, and they went to four percent. So it

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<v Speaker 3>seems to be a pattern of the bare minimum. I said, hey,

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<v Speaker 3>we want to have more events there. Remember we wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to have the WWE. I believe it was the smack

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<v Speaker 3>Down Summer Summer swam right, they went to Cleveland. We

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<v Speaker 3>at that time we hadn't even applied. So I came

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<v Speaker 3>on your show you mentioned it. I said we should

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<v Speaker 3>apply once again. We do the bare minim. Well, we

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<v Speaker 3>have one event a year, and you know that's good enough.

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<v Speaker 3>So it has been the bare minimum, bare minimum on

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<v Speaker 3>their end, but the top dollar on the tax pair end.

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<v Speaker 1>No Commissioner Lisha resh on this year, we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>shovelgate at pay Corpse Stadium and acting like this is hey,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a rare weather circumstance. I mean, we've known

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<v Speaker 1>about this for days in advance, and then we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>get bitterly cold temperatures on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 2>That forecast was accurate.

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<v Speaker 1>You plan for that kind of stuff, and we act

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<v Speaker 1>as if or the response has been, well, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>a while, it's a big deal. You got to stay

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<v Speaker 1>in ice and snow. It's not like we don't get

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<v Speaker 1>ice and snow in Cincinnati. And there are the cold

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<v Speaker 1>weather stadiums, and I consider it's a cold weather stadium

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<v Speaker 1>this time of year that they you don't see that happening.

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<v Speaker 1>You know now, if you get an event where it's

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<v Speaker 1>snowing an inch an hour, it's gonna be awfully tough

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<v Speaker 1>to clear. We understand that we've seen that before. But

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<v Speaker 1>the storm it ended, plenty of places were cleared off.

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<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be that much to ask if they were

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<v Speaker 1>clearing it as the snow fell before it turned to ice.

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<v Speaker 1>How do you make sure that doesn't happen again? And

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<v Speaker 1>I say that because I think it was the last

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<v Speaker 1>time the Bengals were in the playoffs three years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I recall or maybe the year before, where the same

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<v Speaker 1>thing happened. The snow fell and there was no adequate

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<v Speaker 1>planning place to remove the snow, and they said, I

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<v Speaker 1>we'll do better next time. Your contemporary there on the commission,

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<v Speaker 1>Stephanie Summer Dumas, said that we need to do a

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<v Speaker 1>better job for next time. Well, this is the next

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<v Speaker 1>time after three years ago. It doesn't seem like they

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<v Speaker 1>care or the messages have been received. Do you have

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<v Speaker 1>any influence in your position to make that happen?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, I believe that the influence that the county commissioners

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<v Speaker 3>had is when we went into the negotiation, and that's

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<v Speaker 3>why everything in negotiation needed to really be on the

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<v Speaker 3>table with you know, some type of penalty, because you know,

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<v Speaker 3>if someone goes in there and say they fail, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>then there's a liability that could you know, fall on

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<v Speaker 3>the county as well, the county taxpayers. When they filed

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<v Speaker 3>that lawsuit about the restroom, they didn't just put the Bengals,

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<v Speaker 3>they put they put Hamilton County. And then the Bengals

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<v Speaker 3>ownership wanted to remove themselves from the lawsuit and leave

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<v Speaker 3>it to the taxpayers. And so really these type of things,

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<v Speaker 3>that's why I went to know on the on the deal,

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<v Speaker 3>you've got to really and then be enforceable. It can't

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<v Speaker 3>be well, they made a call to the administrator and

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<v Speaker 3>now he comes and we don't get to talk to

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<v Speaker 3>each other. Three of us are on the county commission

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<v Speaker 3>of to talk. That would be a majority, so there's

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<v Speaker 3>only one person who can talk to all three of us,

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<v Speaker 3>and so we end up saying one thing, and then

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<v Speaker 3>he has a meeting and then they come out and

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<v Speaker 3>then the next thing, I know, well we're okay with it.

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<v Speaker 3>We should have you know, we've got it again. If

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<v Speaker 3>we hadn't rushed last week to do the two one

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<v Speaker 3>hundred and eleven million dollars. We'd had some leverage, but

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<v Speaker 3>it's hard to have leverage if you've given them the

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<v Speaker 3>checkbook and you've written a blank check.

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<v Speaker 2>That's over.

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<v Speaker 3>I tried to have some Yeah, you talked about seat

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<v Speaker 3>gate has been homeowner gate. I mean there's been a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of gates down there. I mean, it's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of things going on. But you got to take care

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<v Speaker 3>of it. My god, you're negotiating the check book. That's

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<v Speaker 3>where you have the power.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how you hold it.

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<v Speaker 1>Most I would say almost every other NFL team save

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<v Speaker 1>maybe one except I don't know if there's an exception

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<v Speaker 1>or not to that would look at in the public

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<v Speaker 1>outcry going. Man, you know what, it's the fan experience.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bad look for the team. It's a bad

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<v Speaker 1>look for the city and the franchise because things like

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<v Speaker 1>this happen, not not frequently, but enough to establish a

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<v Speaker 1>pattern if you go back in time, that they simply

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<v Speaker 1>will do the bare minimum and don't care what the fans,

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<v Speaker 1>or the media or anyone else thinks for that matter.

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<v Speaker 1>They only care about what their opinions are inside pay corps,

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<v Speaker 1>in the front office, and typically other teams would look

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<v Speaker 1>at this and go, yeah, this this gives our franchise

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<v Speaker 1>a bad look. We better clean this up and fix

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<v Speaker 1>it for next time. I think almost every other NFL

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<v Speaker 1>team thinks that way, except the Bengals.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. I can't tell you how they think. I just

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<v Speaker 3>know that when I look at the actual deal. And

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<v Speaker 3>when you have a chance, remember had to have a

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<v Speaker 3>free watch party, Sloan, you and I. They said let's

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<v Speaker 3>do what. It came from a It came from a

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<v Speaker 3>fan that said let's do it. They were once said

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<v Speaker 3>we can't do it, and then the next thing I know,

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<v Speaker 3>they came back with it. We found a way to

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<v Speaker 3>do it. Now we want to do it for ninety

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<v Speaker 3>nine dollars. We wanted to have some free to get

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<v Speaker 3>back to the fans. Every time we want to do

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<v Speaker 3>we want to have something to get back to the homeowners.

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<v Speaker 3>And they said, now we want all the money, and

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<v Speaker 3>now we only can do you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>So anything that doesn't make money, from what I've seen,

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<v Speaker 3>it's always we'll put it on the If it costs money,

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<v Speaker 3>the tax players, we want you to pay. If it

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<v Speaker 3>makes money, then again then it's okay for them. And again,

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<v Speaker 3>there was so much pressure to pass this two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>eleven million dollars right before. I don't know if they

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<v Speaker 3>knew that the season was going to end or something,

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<v Speaker 3>but it was, you know, the administray said, we got it,

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta got this is an eleven year deal. Why

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<v Speaker 3>we gotta do it so quick? We gotta do it,

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<v Speaker 3>even before we balance the budget. We gotta do it.

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<v Speaker 3>And now they've done it, and uh, it's two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>eleven million dollars out a three hundred and fifty million

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<v Speaker 3>we don't put. That's a pretty big front load. And

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<v Speaker 3>now here we are, not even a week later, and

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<v Speaker 3>now we're talking about well, wait a minute, the seats

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't well was it removed from seat?

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<v Speaker 1>You feed enough pigeons, you get fat, happy pigeons.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what you get.

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<v Speaker 1>Commissioner Lisha Reese on seatgate this morning on seven hundred

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<v Speaker 1>W and there's nothing you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over.

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<v Speaker 1>But uh, it helps I think collectively to complain.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I think it's you know, we got to bring

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<v Speaker 3>these things up and and I'm gonna ask the administrator

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<v Speaker 3>to see what really can be done, and it should

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<v Speaker 3>be done. But I want to make sure Swan thank

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<v Speaker 3>you for having me on. But I hope these media

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<v Speaker 3>when they write, they keep saying commissioners passed two hundred

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<v Speaker 3>and eleven million dollars. I didn't vote yes, Please Pa

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<v Speaker 3>it was two to one.

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<v Speaker 2>We know, we know you made your case.

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<v Speaker 3>We got it.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you so, the I told you so, the

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<v Speaker 1>I told you so. Alisha, I always appreciate you coming out.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a great day. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>know this, but Alisha Reese did not vote for She

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<v Speaker 1>always brings the heat, and God knows we need some

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<v Speaker 1>heat this morning, especially if you suffered through yesterday's If

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<v Speaker 1>you suffered through yesterday's game uh and happened to go there,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll bump you the top of the call list here

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<v Speaker 1>because we're going to examine, from top to bottom, the

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<v Speaker 1>central idea of the segment of the show this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>from Alicia to your calls coming up next AFTERNOWS, and

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<v Speaker 1>that is the bare minimum, Bengals, the bare minimum. And

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<v Speaker 1>if you just do the bare minimum, do you ever

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<v Speaker 1>expect to win a championship in your lifetime. We'll get

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<v Speaker 1>to that next on the show right after this, on

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<v Speaker 1>seven hundred W