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Speaker 1: Now eight and two atop the NFL, top the AFC,

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Speaker 1: atop the AFC West. They got a little mini buy

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Speaker 1: here before the host of the Kansas City Chiefs coming

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Speaker 1: up on next Sunday, so that's gonna be interesting.

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Speaker 2: And then of course you have the bye week after that.

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Speaker 1: Somebody did ask if they were going to maybe flex

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Speaker 1: the Broncos out of the primetime Sunday night game against Washington.

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Speaker 1: The Washington Commanders actually got some good news today on

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Speaker 1: Jayden Daniels.

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Speaker 2: It looks like he's not going to require surgery.

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Speaker 1: They're not placing him on IR immediately, so there's actually

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Speaker 1: a possibility the Broncos see Jayden Daniels coming out of

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Speaker 1: the by on Sunday Night football.

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Speaker 2: Wow, I mean wild. I mean you saw that injury.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was one of.

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Speaker 4: Those ones where you look away. I didn't want to

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Speaker 4: see you see his start to fold and that that

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Speaker 4: joint start to pop out like a chicken.

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Speaker 3: Bowl like that.

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Speaker 4: You're no, I don't want to do that, you know,

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Speaker 4: and it's he's not He's a slight kind of a

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Speaker 4: slight guy, you know, he's kind of tall and skinny,

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Speaker 4: incredible athlete, really good ball skills with a ball in

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Speaker 4: his hand, but get caught. You know, you get caught

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Speaker 4: by those guys and they fall with their weight on

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Speaker 4: you and it's the wrong angle.

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Speaker 2: Bang.

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Speaker 4: That's so that's pretty incredible that he could still play

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Speaker 4: this season after that. But it's his off hand, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean? But how's that going to limit

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Speaker 4: his ability to do what he does.

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Speaker 1: Well, especially scramble And at some point, and we even

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Speaker 1: ties back to Bonnicks when we were talking about maybe

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Speaker 1: there's an injury as part of the reason why he

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Speaker 1: was so inaccurate, But he does a pretty good job

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Speaker 1: of not sustaining as many hits. Like Jadan Daniels gets

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Speaker 1: some of this contact that he ultimately doesn't need to.

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Speaker 1: And part of the job of I guess any really

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Speaker 1: football player, but especially the quarterback, is availability, right, And

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Speaker 1: so you see the injuries around the league right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean that position is is getting absolutely blasted and.

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Speaker 4: It's and it's and it's a curious thing because they

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Speaker 4: go to the great lengths to try to protect those guys,

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Speaker 4: that's right, and it and it just begs the question,

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Speaker 4: or is it having the inverse effect is are are

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Speaker 4: our attempts to protect the quarterbacks actually leading to them

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Speaker 2: You know, he saw it with c. J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud last week. He doesn't know what to do with

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Speaker 4: the ball in his hand. He doesn't know how to

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Speaker 4: be a runner. He gets out of the pocket and

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Speaker 4: he's like running around all tall, like he's expecting the refs,

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Speaker 4: like he has a halo around him, or he's got

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Speaker 2: He doesn't.

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Speaker 4: Those guys are converging on you really fast, and they

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Speaker 4: cannot pull off.

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Speaker 2: They cannot.

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Speaker 4: And so if you go and if you wait to

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Speaker 4: the last minute and to try to slide, your head's

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Speaker 4: it's really bad for your life and your health. And

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Speaker 4: so I think that we got to stop trying to

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Speaker 4: protect these guys and tell them you're on your own, pal,

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Speaker 4: you want to leave the pocket, you're a runner.

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Speaker 2: We're not gonna no more sliding. I completely agree.

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Speaker 4: We're gonna take the slide out of the game. You

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Speaker 4: got to learn how to handle yourself if CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 4: I mean he had all this green grass, c J. Stroud,

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Speaker 3: It was, it was.

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Speaker 2: It was a very unaware moment.

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Speaker 4: For a time, not to athlete, and it just to me,

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Speaker 4: it shows you that these quarterbacks are have the illusion

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Speaker 1: I'm really glad you said that, because I got into

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Speaker 2: I was like, no, way, man, he sort of didn't

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Speaker 1: We had Benny Fowler and studio, and Benny and I

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Speaker 1: Because he kept saying, no, no, no, this was something

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Speaker 2: I mean, alone's got to teach you guys how to slide.

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Speaker 4: Yes, And it's just like it shows you a lot

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Speaker 4: Well, what happens when you get in space, what happens

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Speaker 4: Do you have the athletic ability and the wherewithal to

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Speaker 4: And so of course as a defender, you're taught to

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Speaker 4: and so CJ. Stroud and a lot of quarterbacks out

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Speaker 4: there are not very good at sensing their spatial you know,

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Speaker 4: They're closing this space very very quickly. You can't half

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Speaker 2: I think the way you fix it all you leave

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Speaker 1: One of the things, coming back to the Broncos for

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Speaker 1: Number one in the league in penalties, and I'm not

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Speaker 4: So to me, when when you're making a lot of

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Speaker 4: it means that you're out of position, you're rushed, you're confused,

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Speaker 4: There's a lot of holding things like that. I mean,

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Speaker 4: I didn't really get to get set. I didn't get

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Speaker 4: one of the cool things that Peyton Manning did when

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Speaker 2: Oh maho, oh maho.

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Speaker 4: And what that would do was make the defense show

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Speaker 4: and he'd do a bunch of dummy things, and by

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Speaker 4: so it calms everyone because you just know what they're

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Speaker 2: Expecting on defense, say all the more reason to do

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Speaker 4: Not feel like he's got to be this like chess

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Speaker 4: this cool thing because you were doing that. But the

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Speaker 4: but the Broncos offense was confused, and when you're confused,

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Speaker 4: you make mistakes. When you're out of position, you hold

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Speaker 4: don't feel comfortable with it. Versus this defense that they're

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Speaker 2: It's this new thing that you put in for this game,

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Speaker 2: and then they didn't do the thing you thought they

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Speaker 4: Then guys make penalties and make errors, and I think

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Speaker 4: the offensive errors have a lot to do with that.

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Speaker 1: So Chaata has put out this really nifty little graphic

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Speaker 1: on her show earlier today. Offensive penalty yards and first

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Speaker 1: and second down for the Broncos two hundred fifty five,

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Speaker 1: which is the most the amount of third and eleven

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Speaker 1: plays of this offense has seen thirty three of them,

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Speaker 1: third and eleven, third and eleven more more, my gosh,

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Speaker 1: thirty three times.

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Speaker 2: Well they've seen third We're halfway through the season.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you've seen third and eleven or more thirty three times,

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Speaker 2: That is also the most in the league. Is including

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Speaker 2: the extra game that they've played, now.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is, it is including I mean, so yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's a little bit of a well there's some teams

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Speaker 1: haven't played as many games, but.

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Speaker 2: Just it's so bad.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even if it wasn't about you.

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Speaker 1: Know, if we we tried to line that up, average

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Speaker 1: yards to go on third down is seven point six,

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Speaker 1: on first and second down five point six, which is

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Speaker 1: thirty first so not quite worst but almost there. There's

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Speaker 1: something though, there's there's a silver lining in all of this. Remarkably.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you know what it is? You want to

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Speaker 1: Right, yards per carry on first and second down five

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Speaker 4: But I mean so, I think there's also a conversation

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Speaker 2: Nothing that matters.

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Speaker 1: I do think it matters. Do you worry at all

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, That you don't start moping

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, man, But what I.

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Speaker 4: Oh man looking like a running back out there, guys

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Speaker 4: This is really fun. But then you got to go

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Speaker 2: And so I think that.

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Speaker 4: And I think if he were to pull the lens back,

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Speaker 3: So they win.

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Speaker 4: If they win a Lombardy Trophy and the offense sucks

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Speaker 4: Duve Valley. Powered by Common Spirit and we will be

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I mean, if the Broncos win the Super Bowl and

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Speaker 2: that Sean Payton. No coach has ever won a Super

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Speaker 1: Lombardi's gonna be like, yeah, I mean, I did you

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Speaker 1: get this?

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Speaker 2: Get this out of my I spit on this football,

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Speaker 2: a shiny stripper ball.

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Speaker 1: But he he want when the legacy of this team,

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Speaker 1: whatever ends up happening, is written, the offense can't be

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Speaker 1: the the thing slow him down.

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Speaker 2: It cannot be the anchor.

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Speaker 4: Well, it's gonna be No matter what happens this year,

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Speaker 4: do you really think the offense is gonna like, obviously

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Speaker 4: all of a sudden surpass the defense this year.

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Speaker 2: Well not, but it's it's gotta find some it's got

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Speaker 2: to be like it won't be it'll.

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Speaker 1: Ever be fifty. It'll be the little brother, you know,

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Speaker 1: be the little brother. But it can't be like right now,

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Speaker 1: we're like ninety ten. Yeah, and it's got to be

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Speaker 1: more like sixty forty. I think for him to feel

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Speaker 1: any kind of way.

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Speaker 2: About it, I do think about practice though, like you know,

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Speaker 2: and we talked about this before, Like.

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Speaker 4: You know, they talked about how Wednesday's got to look

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Speaker 4: more like Sunday. Yeah, right, And they came out the

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Speaker 4: next week and did that. It was like the most

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Speaker 4: complete game they'd ever played. It was the Cowboys. They

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Speaker 4: talked about the greatest week of practice they ever had. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you know it's hard to do that on a short week.

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Speaker 4: But can the defense, can the defense find a way

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Speaker 4: to make the offense get better, you know, by the

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Speaker 4: way they practice, by the way the scout team comes.

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Speaker 2: I think that's something they talk about every day.

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Speaker 1: There's our chance of whin a thousand dollars coming up

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Speaker 1: the next five minutes thanks to Mercedes Beens of Littleton

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Speaker 1: Nix with the Voice the Broncos Dave Lowe been coming

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Speaker 1: up next, Broncos Country Tonight coming up at the top

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Speaker 1: of the hour. I'm sure Benjamin Albrighten, Nick Ferguson will

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Speaker 1: have all sorts of fun and creative ways to break down.

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Speaker 2: The game coming up. Looking forward to that.

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Speaker 1: So before we get to bow Nix with Voice the

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Speaker 1: Broncos Dave Logan, which is always a great thing to

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Speaker 1: hear after the game.

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Speaker 2: We try to bring that to you after the game

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Speaker 2: as well.

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Speaker 1: Here the next day, this question coming in, and I

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Speaker 1: think we kind of alluded to this earlier on says,

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Speaker 1: do you guys think that maybe because it was a

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Speaker 1: short week following playing a very tough defense, that the

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Speaker 1: Broncos just didn't install much on offense and maybe took

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Speaker 1: how bad the Raiders are for granted, just to play

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Speaker 1: down to their competition this week.

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Speaker 4: You know, there could have there's a little bit to that.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I think the short week and Thursday night

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Speaker 4: football is tough. Sometimes you get some Thursday night games

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Speaker 4: that look kind of like that. Yeah, they can be weird.

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Speaker 4: It's a vision game, yeah yeah, I mean the body. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: a tough game against the Texans are really hard fought win.

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Speaker 4: Your body's beat up. You don't have a lot of

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Speaker 4: time to recover there. I mean, you need those days,

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Speaker 4: You need those days to relax. I mean, when I

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Speaker 4: would you know, we play in a game on Sunday. Monday,

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Speaker 4: you feel like you got hit by a truck. Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: you spend the day by yourself. Wednesday you come back

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Speaker 4: to work. You're still a little bit sore. Thursday you're

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Speaker 4: starting to work through that.

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Speaker 2: It really isn't by Friday until you feel sort of

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Speaker 2: like yourself again.

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Speaker 4: And then Saturday comes around. This Sunday you got to

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Speaker 4: play it again, and then you do it all over again.

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Speaker 4: Thursday speeds up that timeline, your rest, your recovery, all

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Speaker 4: the things that Pat was talking about earlier, the modalities,

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Speaker 4: all the things that these guys do and they rely

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Speaker 4: on as professionals to get their bodies ready.

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Speaker 2: You can't do that.

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Speaker 4: And for that reason, it is a it is a

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Speaker 4: it isn't a very complicated offensive game plan that week.

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Speaker 2: It isn't, but it isn't for the Raiders either.

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Speaker 4: It isn't for either team, and so it's almost like, hey,

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Speaker 4: let's just do our basic stuff and go do it.

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Speaker 2: And the concern is that they weren't able to do

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Speaker 2: their basic passing.

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Speaker 1: Game in a way that was efficient and it was

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Speaker 1: the easy stuff it's supposed to be based install.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, just just complete the quick pass. Yeah, dude, We've

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Speaker 4: been doing this since high school. And Bo's been doing

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Speaker 4: this since high school. And the very first pass he

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Speaker 4: threw to Courtland Sunn he sailed it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, running dagger concepts and not even not even seeing it. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's weird.

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Speaker 4: And so I think that, you know, there is something

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Speaker 4: to what that texter said about the short week and

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Speaker 4: the tough and the tough win and being beat up

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Speaker 4: and a simple game plan. But again, football is simple.

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Speaker 4: Sometimes you don't need to come up with a complicated

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Speaker 4: game plan. And in this offense has shown that the

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Speaker 4: more complicated the game plan, the more confused and penalty.

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Speaker 2: Ridden they are.

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Speaker 4: I think they do well when it is simple, and

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Speaker 4: so that's what I would have liked to see last night.

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Speaker 2: And that's why it's confusing, Like why are these guys

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Speaker 2: not doing the easy stuff? Well, here was Bonix with

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Speaker 2: voice the Broncos Dave Logan after the game.

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Speaker 3: Go down and talk with the quarterback of the Broncos,

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Speaker 3: Bo Nicks.

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Speaker 6: Bo.

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Speaker 3: It's Dave Logan. Thanks for your time. You know, win

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Speaker 3: is a win.

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Speaker 6: You guys are eight and two and looking forward to

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Speaker 6: get some time off a little bit. Just characterize the

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Speaker 6: night for the offense and what it was like, and

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Speaker 6: it just seemed like you had some trouble getting traction

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Speaker 6: except for that one drive.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, they did a good job on defense.

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Speaker 4: They kept this uh short on several drives I thought

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Speaker 4: first and.

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Speaker 3: Taking that production wasn't bad.

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Speaker 2: And then there's obviously several drives penalties killed us.

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Speaker 3: But we definitely didn't help on something that's for sure. Yep.

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Speaker 6: When when you're having a game like that and you

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Speaker 6: know you're I mean, it's gonna happen. It happens to

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Speaker 6: every single team every single year. But how what's the

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Speaker 6: mindset of sort of staying together on the sideline.

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Speaker 3: How does that work for a young quarterback and a

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Speaker 3: young offense.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like like you said, nobody was farting fingers.

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Speaker 2: We know what we had to do, and uh, at

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Speaker 2: times we did an okay job and then we would.

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Speaker 3: Just all out.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think field physician helped us at all today.

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Speaker 3: But it's just a hand hand we were dealt today.

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Speaker 1: So we just had to overcome some some tough sledding

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Speaker 1: and you know, we had a good touchdown drive there.

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Speaker 4: In the first half, and then we found the field

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Speaker 4: goal in the second and we'll turn out to be

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Speaker 4: the difference in the game.

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Speaker 6: Yep, I'll get you out of here. You got a

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Speaker 6: little bit of downtime now. Sean said that the team's

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Speaker 6: going to have the rest of the week off, come

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Speaker 6: back on Monday. How do you how do you sort

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Speaker 6: of clear your mind and get away from it or

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Speaker 6: let me let me restate that is that what what

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Speaker 6: you do?

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Speaker 3: Is that what guys do at the stage of the season.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think you know you're at it every day

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Speaker 2: for the past fifteen to twenty weeks, and so you got.

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Speaker 4: To give your brain a reset, give your body reset,

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Speaker 4: and hopefully the.

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Speaker 1: Least three days a suple of days awful, make a

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Speaker 1: big difference in the next few weeks.

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Speaker 3: And then you know, we got a big one coming up.

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Speaker 3: Next week. So as quick as it's.

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Speaker 2: Going to be, you got to turn around and go

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Speaker 2: on to the next one.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I appreciate the time, enjoying the downtime. We'll see

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Speaker 3: you next week, Thank you very much. You bet that's

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Speaker 3: bone Nicks in the locker room.

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Speaker 1: And you can find all the postgame interviews bo Nicks,

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Speaker 1: Jail Skinner, Andre Tillman who the interception as well, jail

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Speaker 1: Skinner had the recovery on the putt block, all the

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Speaker 1: more on demand away Colorado dot com. So there's the

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Speaker 1: mindset here for a moment, Nate, where we hit the break,

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Speaker 1: You've got the mini buye, you've got the Chiefs on

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Speaker 1: the other side, then you got a buye week after that.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if you're put in a position you're offensive

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Speaker 1: player on this team, you're probably excited about this weekend

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Speaker 1: getting a little bit of a break. Can you can

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Speaker 1: you wrap your head around an all in mentality for

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Speaker 1: one game before a bye week, or is there a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a checkout period here after a tough

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Speaker 1: stretch that.

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Speaker 2: We were talking about talking about check out this coming week.

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Speaker 1: Mentally checked out because it has been.

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Speaker 2: Such a grueling run here.

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Speaker 4: That's that's just what the season is okay, and you

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Speaker 4: got to prepare yourself for That's why you need veterans

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Speaker 4: in the locker room to get get these guys on,

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Speaker 4: you know, if they're if they're down or they're feeling

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Speaker 4: a little sorry for themselves. Hey, we have no time

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Speaker 4: for this. In two months, the season's over. I mean,

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Speaker 4: it goes back fast. You know, it's a slog right now.

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Speaker 2: And I know you guys are hurt and get away,

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Speaker 2: get some rest, but come back.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm listening to Bow there get those questions,

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Speaker 4: and you know, he's got to be careful not to

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Speaker 4: get cynical about, you know, the things that he's hearing,

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Speaker 4: because it is like every question is yeah, you gotta win.

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Speaker 4: But like you know, and Champagne's hearing the same thing,

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Speaker 4: and it's like that was ugly.

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Speaker 2: Like what do you got to do to get better?

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Speaker 2: Because that's not good, you know.

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Speaker 4: And and he talked about the defense, that there was

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Speaker 4: a good defense that they played, Raiders defense.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm the middle of the middle of the

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Speaker 2: road defense.

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't say they're a great defense, not a bad defense,

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Speaker 4: but he said they were really they were a good defense,

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Speaker 4: and that the field position wasn't great for them. Instead

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Speaker 4: of saying, yeah, we we got to do this thing better, right,

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Speaker 4: he didn't really say much of that.

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Speaker 2: And so I worry about his mentality, you know.

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Speaker 4: I worry about his his his his his mental state

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Speaker 4: as the leader, and and him growing fatigued about the

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Speaker 4: cynicism around the offense.

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Speaker 2: You know, because it is going to be tense.

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Speaker 4: It is going to be you have to ask answer

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Speaker 4: a lot of questions about why it's inept, why it's

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Speaker 4: not looking good for a variety of reasons. You got

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Speaker 4: Sean Payton's a head coach. He expects excellence. You got

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Speaker 4: Denver Bronco fan base, they expect excellence. There's Lombardi trophies

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Speaker 4: already in the trophy case here. You got Elway, you

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Speaker 4: got Manning, you got a bunch of legends looking at

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Speaker 4: you doing this. It's what it what comes with the

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Speaker 4: territory here. They expect you to put up thirty a game,

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Speaker 4: and if you don't, you got to answer questions. And

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Speaker 4: so how are you gonna answer those questions? How are

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Speaker 4: you gonna internalize that and come to work with a

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Speaker 4: positive attitude. I think that's the most important thing for

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Speaker 4: this offense be called number five right.

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Speaker 1: Now three oh three seven one three eighty five eighty

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Speaker 1: five color five three or three seven one three eighty

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Speaker 1: five eighty five, and you're gonna win a fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: Maverick gift card. We give them away hourly on Fridays

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Speaker 1: calling number five three h three seven one three eighty

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Speaker 1: five eighty five, and you're gonna win that fifty dollars

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Speaker 1: to give away next Friday and look forward to doing

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Speaker 1: that with you.

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Speaker 3: With JK.

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Speaker 5: Dobbins mid mid line on the foot, Okay, potential I

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Speaker 5: should say, oh, let me let me back up there,

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Speaker 5: potential mid.

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Speaker 2: Line on the foot there.

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Speaker 4: They want to get some they want to get some

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Speaker 4: opinions on that. Well, he had an angry tweet about

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Speaker 4: hip drop apps. That's a play that's kind of like.

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Speaker 2: What you would do after you realize that he might be.

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Speaker 5: Hurt for somebody doing something they should more clearly drop.

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Speaker 5: By the way, if you go back and look at it,

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Speaker 5: a very clearly hip drop title. So he stayed in

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Speaker 5: the game. That was that's kind of early.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean if you made me those midline foot

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Speaker 2: like you could kind of you could kind of get

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Speaker 2: through that on adrenaline. Not really, you know, it's not

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Speaker 2: like like a high ankle sprain where you you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, I didn't notice it at the time.

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Speaker 3: In the play.

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Speaker 4: I saw him take a you know, a play actually

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Speaker 4: fake hand off and kind of limp off after that.

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Speaker 4: Did it happen there? But it clearly didn't. It happened

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Speaker 4: on the tackle. You think it was a clear hip drop.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you could see him throw like you

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Speaker 2: can see him throw the It's come from the side,

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Speaker 2: isn't he And he's trying to and he's trying to

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Speaker 2: get him down. He does that and then he dropped.

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Speaker 2: You could just like down. I mean maybe it's bang bang,

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Speaker 2: but you know it's hard.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: When you slow it down, everything looks worse.

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Speaker 1: We know what the recovery timeline on that is, or

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Speaker 1: you're just yeah, I don't and I'm still like I'm

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Speaker 1: kind of mad at myself for just saying that out loud,

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Speaker 1: that he should have said.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mean to impress you. No, it's one of

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Speaker 2: those like.

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Speaker 3: You need more opinion on this.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so okay, I can't. I can't find a better

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Speaker 1: way to say that right now. But that's that's really Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well Tom Peres Pelisero said that they're seeing the second opinion.

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Speaker 4: Okay, well they yes, they are definitely getting multiple opinions

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Speaker 4: to make sure that that's the thing.

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Speaker 1: Okay, so all right, Well would you not want to

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Speaker 1: miss J. K. Toppins last night in the locker room?

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Speaker 1: He said it was fine, but yeah, how he goes

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Speaker 1: this is how it's how it goes.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, then that would be obviously more for RJ.

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Speaker 1: Harvey Howler, But had that.

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Speaker 2: Why is he the two minute guy?

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Speaker 5: Because he passed blocks and the other guys don't that

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Speaker 5: drop he had last night?

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Speaker 2: Maybe it made you sick. Oh, but it's like.

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Speaker 1: This office is maddening for multitude of reasons, as we've

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Speaker 1: been discussing all day and all season really, but it's

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Speaker 1: just like everybody takes a turn at different points doing

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Speaker 1: something obnoxiously dumb and like dropping the ball or missing

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Speaker 1: a block, or Bonick's throwing too high on a pass

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Speaker 1: or dirting it. I mean, just everybody takes a rotation turn.

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Speaker 1: And that was one where he's going to walk for

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Speaker 1: a first down and you run in the two minute drill.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna maybe get some points there before half. You know,

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Speaker 1: Bonis eventually throws an interception, but but that is a

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Speaker 1: play that would have gotten you in a midfield and

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Speaker 1: then you sort of see what you can do from there.

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Speaker 5: It's funny because he's the guy who passed pros and

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Speaker 5: supposedly the guy who can catch. But you know, he's

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Speaker 5: a samaj p Ryde, you know, as far as that goes,

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Speaker 5: and so well.

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Speaker 4: Sean likes to have, you know, certain guys for certain things,

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Speaker 4: and that's where the whole personnel group switch happens. And

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Speaker 4: that's where to mean a lot of the confusion happens.

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Speaker 4: And you know, you got to leave guys out there

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Speaker 4: to get a land get him, get him in the moment,

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Speaker 4: you know, and JK. Dobbins comes off the field after

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Speaker 4: six yard run.

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Speaker 2: You can see it. He's frustrated. This was a saying

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Speaker 2: like you watch you watch JK. Lest was it Houston.

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Speaker 2: You watch him rip off a nine yard run in

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Speaker 2: their first carried. They're like, we're not gonna see it

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Speaker 2: in three quarters. Yeah, you know, like sorry, yeah, sorry. Weapon.

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Speaker 2: We got on offense. We have to try something different.

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Speaker 2: We just set up the pass