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Speaker 1: It's Night Side with Dan Ray on.

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Speaker 2: Boston's news radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, by the way, Rick Sobey, I want to

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Speaker 1: thank Rick of the Boston Herald who joined us earlier.

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Speaker 1: He has a piece tomorrow in the Globe about these

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Speaker 1: two arrests in New York, the mayor Ballot eighteen and

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Speaker 1: Ibrahim Katumi nineteen numerous charges, including a terror charge using

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Speaker 1: a weapon of mass destruction. They claimed that they were

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Speaker 1: motivated by ISIS, and that Ballot, apparently, according to the

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Speaker 1: FBI Affid David, stated, they wants to carry out a

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Speaker 1: bigger an attack, bigger than the Boston marathon bombing, which

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Speaker 1: noted caused only three deaths. Wow. Wow, Okay, there's another

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Speaker 1: piece that I saw in the Globe today which I'd

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Speaker 1: like to bring to everyone's attention, and it's one that

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Speaker 1: is something that I am very concerned about, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that some of you are concerned about it as well.

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Speaker 1: The Globe did an editorial today, and sometimes I agree

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Speaker 1: with editorials, most often I don't. Basically accusing Mayor Wu

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Speaker 1: of backing off bike lanes last year, and they asked

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Speaker 1: the question, now, what the headline, the subheadline and the editorial,

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Speaker 1: and again I actually read Globe editorials. It would be

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Speaker 1: unfortunate if the mayor allows rank or over speed bumps

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Speaker 1: in bike lanes to block the kind of safety upgrades

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Speaker 1: that are still needed across the city. Now, in the article,

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Speaker 1: it basically accuses the mayor. This is an editorial of

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Speaker 1: quietly slowing down the implementation of much of the street

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Speaker 1: safety agenda of her first term. Residents deserve to know

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Speaker 1: whether this is a temporary pause or a longer term

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Speaker 1: shift in the administration's priorities. Now, of course, the Globe

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Speaker 1: many Boston streets are still dangerous to motorists, pedestrians and

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Speaker 1: cyclists as our ear plane rides and train I mean

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Speaker 1: inherent unfortunately, in just about anything we do is some danger.

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Speaker 1: You know, It's it's sad but true. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: walk out your door and you can trip on a

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Speaker 1: sidewalk anyway. That it would be unfortunate, according to the Globe,

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Speaker 1: if if it allows, if WU allows rank or over

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Speaker 1: street projects like bus lanes or flex posts to block

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Speaker 1: the kind of safety upgrades that are still needed across

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Speaker 1: the city. That's really what's called bike lanes. You know

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Speaker 1: these posts that they put up there that basically separate

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Speaker 1: the drivers. There've been bike lanes, but that wasn't enough

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Speaker 1: for the bicyclists. They want Not only do they want

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Speaker 1: separate lanes, but they also want posts so that they're safe.

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Speaker 1: And I guess we're gonna give them a bike lane,

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Speaker 1: you might as well, you know, give them safety as well. However,

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Speaker 1: this is having quite an impact on Boston and upon

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Speaker 1: businesses in Boston. I know a lot of people, including

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Speaker 1: myself who Ted, who used to go into Boston quite frequently.

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Speaker 1: Not so much anymore. I do not enjoy going into Boston.

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Speaker 1: The inclusion of bike and bus lanes, however, are the

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Speaker 1: sore spot in many neighborhoods. You bet you, yes you are.

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Speaker 1: There's no one in the in the Globe's editorial staff

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Speaker 1: that lives in Boston. I am sure they're all suburbanites.

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Speaker 1: Has been a saw point in many neighborhoods and potential

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Speaker 1: and a potential political liability for the mayor. The bungled

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Speaker 1: installations of speed bumps on Allendale Street and Jamaica Plane

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Speaker 1: in West Roxbury, which the city subsequently removed, created additional headwinds.

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Speaker 1: So last year, facing a re election battle against an opponent,

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Speaker 1: meaning Josh Kraft, determined to make bike lanes bike lanes

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Speaker 1: a campaign defining issue, who ordered a thirty day review

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Speaker 1: of all street projects. Then she show she slowed the

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Speaker 1: work of designers and planners in her street's cabinet, which

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Speaker 1: since has then seen the steady departure of staff and

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Speaker 1: street safety expertise, who is quoted by the Globe editorial,

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Speaker 1: we need more content sensitive design, more engagement beyond just

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Speaker 1: an individual street, but to the surrounding neighborhoods at large.

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Speaker 1: Maybe someone can tell me what that Hodgepodge of statement means.

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Speaker 1: I think I know what it means, but it certainly

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Speaker 1: is not clear. Then the Globe editorial talks about the

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Speaker 1: departures of the Chief of Streets, Josha Franklin Hodge, who

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Speaker 1: announced his exit in November, form a deputy Chief of

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Speaker 1: Infrastructure and Designed Julia Campbell, who stepped down from her

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Speaker 1: role a month later, the cabinet's chief of Staff Sarah Anders,

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Speaker 1: who left in January, and Director of Transportation Policy and

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Speaker 1: Planning than At Gupta, who retired this month. Goes on

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Speaker 1: to say that the Globe has filed and requested public

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Speaker 1: records information on internal emails amongst the Street's cabinet. The

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Speaker 1: Globe appealed to the state's Supervisor of Public Records. Where's

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Speaker 1: the transparency? Okay? Apparently the city has refused. Who set

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Speaker 1: into temper the city must provide responsive records, which it

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Speaker 1: has not done. Good for the Globe, But the Globe

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Speaker 1: has been told by people familiar with Street's cabinet operations

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Speaker 1: that many projects are now in indefinite limbo, and that

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Speaker 1: there's poor communication and a singular focus on uncontroversial day

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Speaker 1: to day operations like street paving rather than long term

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Speaker 1: street safety initiatives. My goodness, they are paving. They're repaving

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Speaker 1: the streets with the potholes in March. Why would they

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Speaker 1: want to do that? I mean, let's get more bike

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Speaker 1: Another project is the Hyde Park Avenues multi model Corridor.

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Speaker 1: That means bike lanes. The election's over and however much

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Speaker 1: some residents may despise street safety interventions, I would call

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Speaker 1: them aggravating inconveniences, Okay, but that's what the Globe wants

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Speaker 1: to call them. Okay, even if street upgrades change in

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Speaker 1: priority and schedule, Let's fix the potholes. The mayor should

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Speaker 1: let her, a specialist in street safety, get back to work,

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Speaker 1: or explain to constituents why she's ignored their revice for

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Speaker 1: more than a year. Above else all else. If this

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Speaker 1: change is permanent, we must articulate her new strategy to

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Speaker 1: manage the dangers of Boston streetscape. Look, here's the question. Okay,

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Speaker 1: I'm going to give you a real simple option. What

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Speaker 1: should be the mayor's priority? Bike lanes or potholes? Fill

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Speaker 1: the pot holes that will be our cry fill the potholes.

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Speaker 1: You have an opportunity now to uh speak out here.

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Speaker 1: This was a Globe editorial. The Globe must really be

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Speaker 1: upset about this. I don't know that any of the

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Speaker 1: globes that would have to drive on street. Look, let's

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Speaker 1: let me be Let me be kind to the editorial people.

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Speaker 1: They at least gave me something to talk about on

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Speaker 1: this issue tonight. We haven't talked about bike lanes in

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Speaker 1: a while, but we have too many bike lanes now.

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Speaker 1: And if if Michelle Wou had her way, if Joshua

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Speaker 1: Craft hadn't run for mayor, she never would have cut

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Speaker 1: back with the bike lanes. Let's fix the potholes. The

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Speaker 1: potholes are more dangerous now than anything. Six one, seven, two, five, four,

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Speaker 1: Fall River. Warren, thanks very much. Potholes are bike lanes

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Speaker 1: which should be fixed. First one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely potholes to me, you know, and that

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Speaker 3: like in your previous hour. I mean I couldn't call

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Speaker 3: in the digital copy, but they'll put bike leans all

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Speaker 3: over the print.

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Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely, well, it's.

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Speaker 4: It's that's a priority to them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's a game.

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Speaker 4: I know.

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Speaker 1: I read the print newspaper because I think more people

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Speaker 1: that's my own personal product. I do. I get the

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Speaker 1: digital paper. Yeah. I was able to check the two

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Speaker 1: or three days before February nineteenth, of the two or

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Speaker 1: three days after that article by Christopher Innoson, I couldn't

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Speaker 1: I've seen them do I've seen the Globe do this

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And I'm very curious and how many people were

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Speaker 4: actually riding their bikes during the blizzard.

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Speaker 1: I think I could give you a round number on that.

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Speaker 1: It's called zero, you know, very very specific round number. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, exactly.

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Speaker 1: Through most of the month of February, anybody who was

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Speaker 1: or the days after either of the blizzards, they were

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Speaker 1: they were a problem. Look, we have capitulated to the

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Speaker 1: bike people here in Boston. The Mayor's capitulated to the

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And and I just wonder, I wonder why like New

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Speaker 6: Storm after storm after storm.

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Speaker 4: And their roads are far better than those in usets

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Speaker 1: Well, that is it. Yeah, Well, the reason is real simple.

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Speaker 1: I mean that runs runs a tight ship. We don't

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Speaker 1: run a tight ship. We have state legislature, that is it,

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Speaker 1: that is in off that's that is doing business year round.

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Speaker 1: They're picking up their per deems up in New Hampshire.

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Speaker 1: I think they paid their legislators one hundred dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: And that's it doesn't even cover their coffee bills. When

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Speaker 1: is what it is. And and that's what it has

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Speaker 1: come to. And also in Rhode Island. Look, Rhode Island

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Speaker 4: We have the worst roads in America.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you sure do, you sure do. And New Hampshire,

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Speaker 5: And there was actually they were actually like during the

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Speaker 5: blizzard in Paul River, there were streets that were still unclouded,

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Speaker 1: Well, good government, I mean they You know, the one

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Speaker 1: keep the keep the roads open in case someone has

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Speaker 1: to visit someone. But that's not their priority. Their priority

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Speaker 1: is making sure that their payroll is as fat as

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Speaker 1: possible for all their friends and and nincome poop relatives.

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Speaker 1: Simple as that. Warren love you call Inn, keep it up.

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Speaker 1: All right, pals very much. We take a very quick

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Speaker 1: break and it's now ten forty six. We'll get everybody in here.

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Speaker 1: Do we need the potholes to be fixed or mobile? Laians?

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Speaker 1: What's your priority? What priority should would you have if

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Speaker 1: you were the mayor or of Boston. Uh? The globe

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Speaker 1: is not looking for the potholes to be filled. They're

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Speaker 1: looking for more bike lanes. Back on night side the well,

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Speaker 1: there's two lines open six one seven, two five four

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Speaker 1: Boston into Amsterdam or Copenhagen. And guess what, it's never

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Speaker 1: gonna be Amsterdam or Copenhagen. Although there are people at

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Speaker 1: amount of mileage you drive. Believe me, they're coming after cars,

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Speaker 1: whether they're fossil fuel cars, whether they're hybrid cars, or

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Speaker 1: whether they're electric cars. They want they want cars off

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Speaker 1: the roads. They want all of you on bikes. And

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Speaker 1: if you don't speak up, someday you'll have no choice.

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Speaker 1: Six one seven, I won't be around to help you.

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Speaker 1: ten thirty. Coming back on Nightside. You're on night Side

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Speaker 1: with Dan Ray on Boston's news radio. Okay, let's go

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Speaker 1: to the phone. It's gonna go to Bob in Rhode Island. Bob,

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Speaker 1: let's try to see if we can have a conversation.

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Speaker 2: I'll do my best. Dan. Uh. You know what's happening

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Speaker 2: in O're Island. They the desvomt of Transportations Direct. They're

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Speaker 2: resigned because of the Washington Bridge fiasco. You know anything

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Speaker 2: about that, Dan.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. That's a huge inter connection. I think

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Speaker 1: it's one of those points where and the and the

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Speaker 1: as you are.

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Speaker 2: Hot it's very interesting, but go ahead then.

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Speaker 1: So go ahead, you tell me, you could tell me

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Speaker 2: I'm all theres going well, they've closed for the last

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Speaker 2: two years. December thirteenth or May it was December eleventh

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Speaker 2: of twenty twenty three. That's when the little young engineer

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Speaker 2: underneath it was broken. Right since that time, the one

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Speaker 2: way it's been one way traffic. Three lanes have been

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Speaker 2: demolished the other side that was broken, but they still

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Speaker 2: haven't revailed built. But we built it yet, it's going

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Speaker 2: to be twenty twenty eight before they finished the job,

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Speaker 2: and it is a long time. They said, well, we're

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Speaker 2: doing better than Baltimore, Maryland.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the bridge and yeah, the bridge of Baltimore, Maryland

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Speaker 1: was much bigger. So let me ask this, Bob, how

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Speaker 1: does this relate to what we're talking about up here?

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Speaker 2: But the people talking about bike lanes? Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: the potholes are more important than.

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Speaker 1: But I agree with you, Bob. This is you and

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Speaker 1: I are on the same page and this one pal uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you're not going to walk the plane.

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Speaker 2: You say, you just say what I will excuse me.

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Speaker 2: You need to say Rhode Island is the worst in

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Speaker 2: New England. I agree with you. Well they have the

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Speaker 2: Hawaiian Massachusetts.

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Speaker 1: What I think that Rhode Island has the highest percentage

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Speaker 1: on a per capital basis of major politicians who have

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Speaker 1: actually ended up.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm on the mafia for pets.

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Speaker 1: Thankful, I'm talking about the elected officials.

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Speaker 2: Well, they're as bad as the mafia.

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Speaker 4: Then the whole Democrats.

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Speaker 2: McKee is gonna go, yeah, well we're born governor. Now

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Speaker 2: he's useless in you or he thinks he's McGee's can't

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Speaker 2: pay manage. That is okay.

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Speaker 1: Well, I don't want to talk Bob. You know my roulette.

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Speaker 1: I like to talk about other talk shows, but this

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Speaker 1: was me on this show.

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Speaker 2: He won't even let me on this show.

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Speaker 1: Well that's you know, as they say. I want as

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Speaker 1: long as you can have a conversation where I can

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Speaker 1: always talk. Thanks Bob, We'll talk soon, Thank you very much. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let me go to Sean Hey in Braintree. Seandrea, welcome,

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Speaker 1: how are you o?

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Speaker 6: Kai Dan, it's my second time. Love your self.

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Speaker 1: No applause for the second time, but we do appreciate

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Speaker 1: to bring you back. So what's more important bike lanes

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Speaker 1: or potholes in your mind?

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Speaker 6: Definitely bike lane. No, I'm just kidding, and I will

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Speaker 6: say this. I live in the suburbs. I work in Boston,

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Speaker 6: so here's my faery. I commend these people that ride

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Speaker 6: not using gas, They're being healthy there. I envy them

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Speaker 6: to a degree. However, we need to fix the potholes.

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Speaker 6: We're not in a place that it's seventy degrees year round.

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Speaker 6: Many people work in Boston, and that's screws it. And

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Speaker 6: all I want to say is, I you know I'm

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Speaker 6: careful driving. I don't care how many bikes cleans you have,

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Speaker 6: how much protective you have. Some people are just idiot

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Speaker 1: However, bicyclists, but I think there are crazy bike riders too.

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Speaker 6: Bi Well, no, I'm going to stop you and say

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Speaker 6: you're corrupt. They're very brazen. If I'm on a bike,

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Speaker 6: I'd be a little bit more squeamish towards automobiles. I

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Speaker 6: commend them. And by the way, the gas prices are

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Speaker 6: their bikes, and I get it. If you live in

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Speaker 6: the city, you're healthy, maybe listen. Just like electric cars,

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Speaker 6: I'm all for it. We're not there yet, and you

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Speaker 6: need to fix the potholes first.

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Oh, absolutely, because whether if a bicyclist is driving

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Speaker 1: a hitsick pothole, that that can be dangerous to the

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Speaker 1: bicycle as well as to the to the automobile driver. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but what happens is we have a point there's a

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Speaker 1: point of view in city Hall and it's been there

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Speaker 1: And I think their their attitude is that somehow we're Phoenix, Arizona,

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Speaker 1: and it would be a great place, you know, to

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Speaker 1: have ride your bike for eleven months of the year.

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Speaker 1: Eleven and a half months of the year. You know,

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Speaker 1: Phoenix gets voute three or four days of torrential rains

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Speaker 1: and then that's it. They get sunshine. It's always seventy

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Speaker 1: But there's also a bike lobby that has really been

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Speaker 1: very effective in Greater Boston in Mayor's races, and they

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Speaker 1: if you don't commit to more bike lanes, we'll vote

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Speaker 6: I mean, but I'm sorry. How many freaking bike lanes

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Speaker 6: can you have? Have you seen the streets of Boston?

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Speaker 6: But if I'm a bicyclist, I'd even be larry about

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Speaker 6: driving on some roads.

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Speaker 1: No, I agree with you, and I just think what

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Speaker 1: they're doing is they would like to turn Boston. I

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Speaker 1: don't know if you ever been to Copenhagen or Amsterdam.

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Speaker 1: I've been to both.

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Speaker 6: No, but my niece was just recently and she loves it.

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Speaker 6: It's all but again, it's a difference.

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Speaker 1: It's a different it's a different city. Yet. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean in Europe people live in small towns. They work

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Speaker 1: Brantree and you working, do you work in downtown Boston?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm in Clarendon Street.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well that's that's it. That's downtown Beacon, you know,

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Speaker 1: back day and yeah, have you really have no choice?

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Speaker 1: You got to drive? I mean, you could take the tea,

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Speaker 1: but that's a miserable experience for the most part. Done that,

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Speaker 1: all right, Andrea is always I love your calls well,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to call number three. Okay, have a great day,

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much. Bye bye. Are going to take a

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Speaker 1: break at eleven o'clock news. I'd love to talk about

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Speaker 1: want to talk about bike lanes, great, If not, I

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Speaker 1: got a story from Saturday afternoon that I'd like to

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Speaker 1: share with you and see what you think. We're coming

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