1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,159 Speaker 1: You, Dave Logan, Ryan Edwards, Rick Lewis with us today 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,800 Speaker 1: five six six nine zeros or kwai comments Beard Hill 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: text line Broncos Country tonight coming up at the top 4 00:00:08,119 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 1: of the hour. By the way, A little tip of 5 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: the cap to Benjamin Albright. So he texted me yesterday afternoon. 6 00:00:14,440 --> 00:00:16,159 Speaker 1: It was the one o'clock hour. I don't have the 7 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: exact time, but I tweeted. 8 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 2: Out last night. 9 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: But late last night, Dave, we got the news that 10 00:00:21,239 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is going to be the next coach of 11 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 1: the Giants, which is a great pull for the Giants. 12 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,040 Speaker 1: And by the way, it looks like about twenty million 13 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: per begging him a five year deal one hundred million 14 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: dollars twenty million per So ain't it's good work? 15 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 2: You can get it. I'll just say that. But I 16 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 2: want to tip of the. 17 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: Cap to Ben because he texted me yesterday afternoon in 18 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: the one o'clock hour saying, John Harbaugh the Giants basically 19 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: a done deal, which is pretty cool. So I can't 20 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:47,000 Speaker 1: wait to hear more. Ben talking about that tonight. Well 21 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: you think about that that fit there with Harbaugh. 22 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:54,120 Speaker 3: In the New York I think it's a I think 23 00:00:54,160 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 3: it's a good hire. 24 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 4: He brings stability, he brings kind of a veteran presence, 25 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:03,440 Speaker 4: he brings enough street cred because he got to a 26 00:01:03,480 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 4: Super Bowl and found a way to win it. His 27 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,960 Speaker 4: background of special teams, and so I think that's an 28 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,600 Speaker 4: important factor. He inherits a team that actually I thought 29 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:18,480 Speaker 4: had a pretty good front. So the box on defense 30 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:22,640 Speaker 4: I think is above average. And it all boils down 31 00:01:22,680 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 4: to what's his offense going to look like? And is 32 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 4: the guy running his offense going to be satisfied with 33 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 4: Jackson dart Right, You've got a really good receiver. I mean, 34 00:01:32,400 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 4: you've got some pieces there for sure, and you've got 35 00:01:35,880 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 4: a hungry fan base. I mean, the Giants have won 36 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 4: seven games the last two seasons. So if you're John 37 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 4: Harbaugh and you can go anywhere close to five hundred 38 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 4: or better, you're gonna have a Broadway play named after you. 39 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 2: Harrorball, I'm with listen, I'm with you. There's a lot 40 00:01:54,000 --> 00:01:54,600 Speaker 2: to build around. 41 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: We talked about the strengths and weaknesses of all the teams. 42 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,280 Speaker 1: I'm really fascinated, just for a moment, if we get 43 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:02,360 Speaker 1: back to the Broncos. I'm really fascinated Rick to see 44 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:05,880 Speaker 1: the Steelers and Ravens jobs filled because there's a certain 45 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: mindset or style, not only the AFC North Football, but 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: specifically those franchises who just came off of very long 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: tenured coaches. So you're not going to hire somebody in 48 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: this moment with the expectation they're going to be there 49 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 1: for twenty years. 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:22,440 Speaker 2: Right, that doesn't exist anymore. 51 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: But you definitely aren't hiring for short term either because 52 00:02:26,720 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 1: what those organizations are. 53 00:02:28,639 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, to me, those. 54 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 5: Are if I was NFL head coach interviewing, those would 55 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,079 Speaker 5: be two jobs I'd have my eye on because of that. 56 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 5: There's only been three head coaches since nineteen sixty nine, 57 00:02:39,639 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 5: but the Steelers it's incredible. So you know, if the 58 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:45,240 Speaker 5: Steelers give you the job, they're not going to fire 59 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:47,880 Speaker 5: you in a year or two. Even in today's NFL, 60 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,079 Speaker 5: I would feel that way. And same thing with the Ravens. 61 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 5: They just had Harbaugh for eighteen. I wondered if did 62 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 5: Harbaugh interview with Cleveland Day because he's got the Ohio 63 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 5: connection and I don't think so. I was wondering who 64 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 5: else did he interview with or was it just specifically 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 5: the Giants and nobody else? 66 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 4: No, he interviewed. I interviewed in Atlanta for sure. Interviewed 67 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,240 Speaker 4: with the Falcons. I don't know of anybody else. 68 00:03:17,720 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: The Falcons, Giants, and Titans. 69 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 3: Titans, Okay, didn't even interview for the Browns. 70 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 2: Well, I guess that. 71 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: I actually mean me not have met with the Titans. 72 00:03:25,240 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: He's had an interview set for them. 73 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 3: So he did a Falcons and the Giants. 74 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:33,680 Speaker 4: Yeah, so Falcons, Well, I meant a chance to go coach. 75 00:03:33,720 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you're talking about one of the blue blood 76 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 4: organizations and franchises in NFL history. So in five years, 77 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:46,839 Speaker 4: one hundred million dollars, and we want to know if 78 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 4: you're interested, I might not go interview in Cleveland. 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: Well, a great, great move for the Giants too, to 80 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: just get this done. You're not having to wait, you 81 00:03:55,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 1: don't have to wait for any assistant coaches or anything 82 00:03:57,680 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: like that. And you know, you automatically raise the floor 83 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: of your team. I mean, this is what we talked 84 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: about with Sean Payton when the Broncos hired. Sean Payton said, 85 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 1: the floor of the Broncos is much higher today. We 86 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: don't know what they're going to be. We don't know 87 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: if they win championships with Sean certainly, hope so, but 88 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: the floor is not that you had to clear much 89 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 1: from Nathaniel Hackett, but the floor was higher almost immediately 90 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:17,680 Speaker 1: with Sean Payton. 91 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 3: Sure. 92 00:04:18,440 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 4: I mean the expectations are higher when you make a 93 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 4: coaching change, a staff change. And I've been as a 94 00:04:25,680 --> 00:04:30,640 Speaker 4: player in the NFL, I've been part of that. It's 95 00:04:30,880 --> 00:04:34,160 Speaker 4: so important that first impression when you walk in that 96 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 4: meeting room with those players. I mean, you want, you 97 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 4: want to be able to and those players want to 98 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 4: believe that, Hey, you know what we're going to win 99 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 4: here and I can help you get better and you 100 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:48,719 Speaker 4: know what, We've proven it and so this is not 101 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 4: going to this is I mean, what I would tell 102 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 4: him is, this isn't this isn't going to be a rebuilt. 103 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 4: I'm not interested in to rebuild. Anybody who feels that 104 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:58,839 Speaker 4: way probably. 105 00:04:58,400 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: In the wrong room. Right. 106 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 4: We're going to get this thing up and running immediately 107 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 4: in this division. 108 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I've heard it might be by the way. 109 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 5: So he must be sold on Jackson Dark then when 110 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 5: you think, I think he's sold on one hundred million dollars. 111 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 2: But that's it. 112 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,040 Speaker 5: So I bet there would be several teams that would 113 00:05:18,040 --> 00:05:18,919 Speaker 5: have paid him, then. 114 00:05:20,080 --> 00:05:23,800 Speaker 4: Well, that's top of the line. I mean, there's nobody 115 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 4: making more. I don't so, I don't I don't know. 116 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 4: I don't think the Browns would that. I don't do step. 117 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 4: I don't think so. I don't think the Raiders would 118 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 4: because they're paying close to sixty million dollars right now 119 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,360 Speaker 4: to coaches that are not even part of the organization anymore, 120 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,040 Speaker 4: including Pete Carroll. So you think Miami and Atlanta would, 121 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 4: I don't know about Miami. Steven Ross has a lot 122 00:05:47,720 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 4: of a lot of money. Not sure, well, so does 123 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 4: what they all do? Don't they really a lot more 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 4: than Home Depot still doing reasonably well. Arth Blanket is 125 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 4: feeling pretty good. Atlanta, Yeah, I think. I think the 126 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 4: lure of getting out of the AFC, he doesn't have 127 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 4: to worry about his brother. I just think when the 128 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:14,040 Speaker 4: Giants called that, and and I think he thinks they 129 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 4: have a quarterback, so and he had and he has 130 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 4: a pretty he at least he has some of the 131 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 4: ingredients of a pretty damn good defense. 132 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I like I like the addition if they 133 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,039 Speaker 1: go with Todd Monkin, who I have a lot of 134 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 1: respect for as far as an offensive coordinator and Jackson 135 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,920 Speaker 1: Dart I like that pairing together because you're gonna build 136 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: off his legs either way. I mean, you want to 137 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,680 Speaker 1: work with them in the past or in the pocket. 138 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: You don't like it, huh, make it a face. 139 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 3: I that's just the only one I have. 140 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 4: It's I I mean, I know Todd Monkin a little 141 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 4: bit and when he was in college actually recruited out here. 142 00:06:56,960 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 4: Here's the game I can't get over. And I know 143 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,880 Speaker 4: it's about one game. You've got a home game against 144 00:07:03,960 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 4: the Chiefs in Baltimore, and I believe that was the 145 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 4: AFC Championship. 146 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: Was it the AFC championship game? 147 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was divisional because it was they were 148 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: they were coming off the buy, they were the one seed. 149 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: I'll look it up here, but I believe that was 150 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:22,119 Speaker 1: a divisional round. 151 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: You're favored in that game. 152 00:07:24,600 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, And. 153 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 4: You don't run the ball. Lamar throws the ball like 154 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:39,320 Speaker 4: you would expect a game plan for Joe Burrow and 155 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 4: I just for the life of me, and I know, 156 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 4: listen Flowers fumbled going into the end zone, and I 157 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: mean they had some unfortunate plays and stuff like that. 158 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 3: But I just that game plan. I couldn't believe. 159 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:54,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I think they threw the ball more than 160 00:07:54,920 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 4: forty times. 161 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 2: AFC Championship. 162 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 4: You are a game away from the Super Bowl with 163 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: a quarterback who's as dynamic an athlete, not that he 164 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 4: can't throw, because he can, but he didn't. If you're 165 00:08:08,920 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 4: looking at it, how many times they throw the ball 166 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 4: in that game thirty seven? How many times they run it? 167 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:16,320 Speaker 1: Well, actually he was sacked four times, so it is 168 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: even more. They ran it sixteen. 169 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: Okay, sorry, I just can't. I could never move past 170 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:24,239 Speaker 4: that game. 171 00:08:24,560 --> 00:08:25,240 Speaker 3: I would have to. 172 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 4: I'm not saying Todd Monkin is not deserving of ever 173 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 4: coaching again. 174 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 3: I'm not. You know, was he there this year in Baltimore? 175 00:08:33,040 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 4: Did Derek Henry sort of disappear at times? 176 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 3: Like everybody's like, hey, why don't we turn around and. 177 00:08:39,960 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 4: Take the snap and hand it to the big fella. 178 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: But I if, honestly, if I were the Marra family 179 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: and I'm going to hire John Harbaugh, I'd have to 180 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 4: talk to him about and I'd have to talk with 181 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 4: Todd Monkin. Hey, let's just chop it up here a 182 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,079 Speaker 4: little bit. Help me understand. Here's a couple of my concerns. 183 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 4: Tell me what you were thinking in exactly what happened, 184 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:02,960 Speaker 4: I'd have to. 185 00:09:03,280 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: I just want to. 186 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 1: Know, Okay, I mean that's fair, and that's the one 187 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: game I think for a lot of people that sticks 188 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,760 Speaker 1: out of like what exactly were you thinking? And you're 189 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:16,680 Speaker 1: right AFC Championship Game. Kansas City was I want to say, 190 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,080 Speaker 1: maybe even a They were definite an underdog. 191 00:09:19,080 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: I'll look up to Baltimore is a three or may 192 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 3: or maybe three and a half. 193 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: But yeah, you were Russia sixteen times. I mean, for me, 194 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: my memory of that was Kansas City taking the ball, 195 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,640 Speaker 1: going right down the field is scoring a touchdown. 196 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 2: It seemed to really rattle Baltimore. And I'm not. 197 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: Saying they got out of their entire game plan, but 198 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,040 Speaker 1: it seemed like, oh no, Kansas City's not because remember 199 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: Baltimore's defense was spectacular that year. They might have been 200 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: the number one defense in the league. And so you 201 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 1: had that, you had the rushing attack. I mean, you 202 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:54,839 Speaker 1: didn't have Derrick Henry at that point, but you still 203 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: had Gus Edwards. 204 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 2: You had Lamar obvious hammerhead and he was the MVP. 205 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: So yeah, weird game plan, no doubt, about it. So 206 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,960 Speaker 1: we hadn't got a chance to listen to the Coordinator 207 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 1: sound from yesterday, but we were talking just a moment 208 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,679 Speaker 1: ago about the run game, and Joe Lombardi was talking 209 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,040 Speaker 1: about sort of the focus on the run game, and 210 00:10:14,080 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I thought that the question was sort of afraid, but 211 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,199 Speaker 1: I can't remember who's too asked, but they were kind 212 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: of framing it in a way of like, how do 213 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: you sort of prevent yourself from abandoning the run game? 214 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: Like, you know, you want to run the give the ball, but. 215 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: How do you present yourself, you know, from abandoning it 216 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: during the game. 217 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 6: It's always a goal every week to be able to 218 00:10:30,240 --> 00:10:34,080 Speaker 6: run the ball effectively, and so you play the same way. 219 00:10:35,840 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 6: And I think the way you do that is you're 220 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 6: just watching how the game's going. And so obviously if 221 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:44,920 Speaker 6: a team's running the ball well or doing anything well, 222 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,600 Speaker 6: they try to stick with it if they're smart anyway, 223 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:52,199 Speaker 6: and till the defense stops you. And so if you 224 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 6: alas start the week, you get the stat sheet and 225 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 6: you get excited and then you watch your filmily, oh god, 226 00:10:55,760 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 6: it's not as bad as everyone said, So you know, 227 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 6: we'll see how the game's going obviously every week it's 228 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 6: a goal to establish the run and run the ball 229 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 6: effectively takes a lot of stress off of everybody, and 230 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:10,480 Speaker 6: then you react to the situations you find yourself under. 231 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: So the only thing that doesn't line up with me 232 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: on that and I understand everything he said there, because 233 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: that's what you do. You go into a game plan 234 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:19,440 Speaker 1: and you say we're going to try to be bounced. 235 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,559 Speaker 1: Everybody does that. Then why did Boenicks have more passing 236 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: attempts than any other quarterback in the league. Does that 237 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 1: mean that the running game didn't work this year? Is 238 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: that what that acknowledgment is, Dave. 239 00:11:33,160 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 4: I don't think the running game was efficient. I don't 240 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 4: think the running game was as efficient as they would like. 241 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: And I think it's very very tough. 242 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 4: To stick with the running game that your eyes tell you, Okay, 243 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 4: we're having a hard time, whether you're having a hard 244 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:55,920 Speaker 4: time blocking them or you're having a hard time the 245 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 4: backs are not hitting where they shed me whatever. If 246 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 4: you're more times than not looking up and looking at 247 00:12:03,920 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 4: your plate sheet and a second and eight, that sort 248 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:13,520 Speaker 4: of mindset to stay with that run can be very difficult, 249 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 4: and it's it's made more difficult by if your defense, 250 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 4: if the other team is moving the ball, they're moving 251 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 4: the ball and maybe they've scored. Now all of a sudden, 252 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 4: you want to answer, we got to go down and score. Okay, 253 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: we'll start off with the run, you know nowhere all right? 254 00:12:34,800 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 4: Second and eight, Well, second and eight, by and large, 255 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: I mean second and eight, second and eight for the Bills, 256 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:42,920 Speaker 4: second and seven. 257 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:45,200 Speaker 3: Or more for the Bills. 258 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 4: They've not run the ball one time this year, so 259 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 4: second and eight for Sean Payton. 260 00:12:53,880 --> 00:12:55,440 Speaker 3: Under those circumstances, it's. 261 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:58,560 Speaker 4: It's hard to stay with the run because you want 262 00:12:58,600 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 4: to answer the score. 263 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: You got to create some dash plays. 264 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 4: So it's easy on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday for all of 265 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 4: them because I think they believe it. 266 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to run the ball. We know we 267 00:13:11,400 --> 00:13:12,199 Speaker 3: have to run the ball. 268 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 4: We got to run the ball to okay, and then 269 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,199 Speaker 4: when the game starts, if you're not efficient in the 270 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 4: running game, it's hard to stay in there because you're 271 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,000 Speaker 4: you're going to fall behind. And then that's not obviously 272 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 4: where you want to be. How much of a factor 273 00:13:27,280 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 4: will Julie be in the game. How many carries do 274 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 4: you see him getting? I don't know about carries. But 275 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 4: I mean to me, I'm going to try to find 276 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 4: a way to get his hands on the ball ten times. Now, 277 00:13:39,520 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 4: you know, whether I throw it to him or talk. 278 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 4: I mean ten times. You know he's I think you identify, 279 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 4: you identify five guys that you know you have to 280 00:13:52,679 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 4: get touches for. Okay, who are those five guys? And 281 00:13:56,679 --> 00:14:00,880 Speaker 4: not in order? Right, both those backs for different reasons. 282 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 4: So you got Julie and RJ. You got Sutton, right, 283 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:08,320 Speaker 4: you got Franklin. That's four. You got Pat Bryan. I 284 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 4: can promise you they view Pat Bryan as a guy 285 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 4: that they have to find a way to get the ball. 286 00:14:13,720 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 4: That's five. And then occasionally, like you Evan Ingram or 287 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 4: a tight end well and Mems is a guy that 288 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 4: again you know, you sort of wonder how they view him. 289 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 4: And he's dangerous. We've seen it in the punt return game. 290 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 4: We've seen it a couple of times in Jets sweeps, 291 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 4: but we just haven't seen a lot of it in 292 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: the passing game unless it's a screen or in the running. 293 00:14:39,520 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 3: Game if it's a Jet sweep. 294 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 5: We were talking about him earlier and what the disconnect 295 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 5: is for Marvin Mipps because he seems like a guy. 296 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 5: You get him the ball in space and he has 297 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 5: got a good chance of having an explosive play, and 298 00:14:53,560 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 5: we've seen it happen. But they just don't use him 299 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 5: much at all. I don't know what the deal is 300 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 5: with him. Maybe you know, Debut, you'd have a better 301 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 5: feel for it. Is he not a good route runner, 302 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 5: not comfortable with the route tree? 303 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 3: I can't tell you. 304 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 4: I mean I think I could tell you if I 305 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 4: could be out there practice every day and sitting in 306 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 4: on those meetings. But honestly, I think there's something there. 307 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: I just I just don't know exactly what it is. 308 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:29,400 Speaker 4: I think they acknowledge his ability because it's the best 309 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,720 Speaker 4: they have on the team. If you put his hands 310 00:15:32,840 --> 00:15:36,760 Speaker 4: around the ball, he's got a chance. He's He's the 311 00:15:36,960 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: most and Julia, I think would be second. Mems is 312 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 4: the most dynamic player you have in the team. So 313 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 4: the fact that he doesn't really factor into the passing 314 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 4: game an occasional vertical shot, but not not really factor 315 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 4: into the game the passing game, I mean you can. 316 00:15:58,000 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 3: Guess a trust factor. 317 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 4: You can guess maybe sure could be that you put 318 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 4: the do you put the ball on the ground in 319 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 4: practice in the in the NFL, if you do that 320 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 4: more times than not, you don't see it in a game. 321 00:16:11,640 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: Do you. 322 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 4: Struggle from time to time understanding you know, formations? And 323 00:16:18,760 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 4: I'm not suggesting any of these are true. I don't know, 324 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 4: but I'm just saying, generally speaking, it could be these things. 325 00:16:25,440 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 3: If you don't get lined up the right way. 326 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 4: You can do that about two times in practice, and 327 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 4: then coaches in their mind, it's like they got one 328 00:16:34,680 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: of those little what was that little machine, that little 329 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 4: little game. 330 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 3: Used to play? Etch a sketch? 331 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, and then you just turn it upside down and 332 00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 4: shake it yep, and just erases everything you did. That's 333 00:16:44,000 --> 00:16:47,600 Speaker 4: how coaches, you guys, when they screw things up in practice, 334 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 4: they just move on, you know. 335 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, And I'm looking at that Julia's stats for the year. 336 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 5: He's only had four catches all year, you know, and 337 00:16:56,200 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 5: he does seem like a guy you get him the 338 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 5: ball in space, Yeah, that he can. 339 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 3: They could play for you. 340 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:03,560 Speaker 5: But as you mentioned, you wanted to get at least 341 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 5: ten touches, why not throw some passes to them? 342 00:17:07,480 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, and it's how you throw it, right, 343 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 4: I said earlier today on d n v R. 344 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: You line him up in. 345 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,440 Speaker 4: The backfield, you have split reductions by the receivers, and 346 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 4: the Broncos do that a lot, and then you motion 347 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 4: Juliel out of the backfield all the way out wide. 348 00:17:25,960 --> 00:17:29,760 Speaker 4: How that defense adjust to that motion tells you a 349 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 4: lot about what their intent is before the balls even snapped. Right, 350 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:37,920 Speaker 4: Who's who's going out there? If a corner who's lined 351 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 4: up on the reduced wide receiver simply slides out, pretty good. 352 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,120 Speaker 3: Chance they're playing zone. Right. 353 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:49,479 Speaker 4: If a linebacker runs out with Jaliel from the box, 354 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 4: pretty good chance you're playing man. But I wouldn't mind 355 00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 4: them doing something like that and then just throwing him 356 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 4: a hitch and letting letting him. 357 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: You got to get like that. They know this. 358 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 4: Get him to space because he's really dangerous in space. Right, 359 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 4: He's not going to break a lot of tackles because 360 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: he's light in the pockets. Right, you can't leave him 361 00:18:13,680 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 4: in the game for two or three series straight because 362 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 4: of pass protection. 363 00:18:18,680 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 3: So you got RJ. Harvey, who's a bigger, more durable. 364 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:23,639 Speaker 4: Back, and I think RJ has a chance to be 365 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 4: a really good player in this league. 366 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: He's a rookie. 367 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,360 Speaker 4: You got the day who comes in on third down. 368 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 4: He's going to be your blitz pickup guy, an the 369 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,120 Speaker 4: casual screen guy, you know. I mean, I've always thought 370 00:18:34,160 --> 00:18:36,679 Speaker 4: Tyler Beidat is a pretty damn good running back. So 371 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: then how many snaps do you get? You know, how 372 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:43,120 Speaker 4: many snaps is? Your defense on the field is Buffalo. 373 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 4: They just finished a twelve play drive and even though 374 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 4: they didn't score, they took six and a halmst seven 375 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 4: minutes off the clock. So you come back and they punt, 376 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: you're scoreless, and a first down, you run it. 377 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 3: And you get two, not second and eight. 378 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 4: The first thing you're thinking as a play caller is, well, damn, 379 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 4: I can't put my defense back out there right now. 380 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 3: So your your. 381 00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 4: Inclination is to get away from that run on second 382 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 4: and eight, even though you might pop one and for 383 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 4: five and that's third and three. Now you now you've 384 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 4: got a lot of stuff at your disposal, But just 385 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: the circumstances of the game a lot of times are 386 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 4: what dictates to a play caller your comfort level and 387 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 4: what you're going to call. 388 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 2: Where did the term dame come from? 389 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 3: Good question, dame. That's an old school. 390 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 4: Back in the friggin thirties school. 391 00:19:43,359 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 3: I don't know, but I've been stand was there another dames? 392 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 3: And answer? 393 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:55,280 Speaker 4: Uh, brods is a little has a little bit of 394 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 4: a negative. I think dame is like back back in 395 00:19:57,680 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 4: the day, back before we were born. I think was 396 00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 4: used in a in a sort of classy I agree, right, yeah, 397 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 4: I agree. 398 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 399 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: The term dame comes from Old French and Latin we 400 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,119 Speaker 1: entering English and Middle Ages as respectful term for a 401 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: woman of rank. 402 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I thought. I know it was Brod's with disrespect. 403 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:19,840 Speaker 3: Broad's is sort of like what they use you know 404 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 3: in Arizona State? 405 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 2: Is that officially what they used down there? 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 3: That's your school. 407 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 5: So the dictionary definition of broad of just moving. It's 408 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 5: a noun, well, thank you for thank you, thank you 409 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:41,840 Speaker 5: for a woman. Okay, that's the dictionary definition a noun 410 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:42,560 Speaker 5: for a woman. 411 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 3: Now for a. 412 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,640 Speaker 4: Woman, Yep, I think I think the term broad has 413 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 4: more of a negative connotation than dame. 414 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: I agree with you. 415 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:55,560 Speaker 5: And it looks like it's old English, so let's stick 416 00:20:55,600 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 5: with old French, Old English, and its been around since 417 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 5: the mid eighteen hundreds. 418 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 3: I yeah, okay. 419 00:21:04,520 --> 00:21:06,640 Speaker 2: Nown for a woman. We learned something new every single 420 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,320 Speaker 2: day on this show. 421 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 4: I've got another I've got a couple of downs, couple 422 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:15,840 Speaker 4: of downs. Yeah, and man, I'm laying out, Yeah, I'm 423 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:16,520 Speaker 4: laying out of this. 424 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:17,360 Speaker 6: Yeah. 425 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:19,760 Speaker 2: It look at you learned some lessons learning. 426 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, today was I learned a couple of lessons today 427 00:21:22,359 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 5: on the show. 428 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. 429 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: Well we'll see you say that, and then you'll be 430 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:27,399 Speaker 2: back in. 431 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 3: I'm pulling back back in. 432 00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: Next week, and then you you'll give us some more gifts. 433 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 3: Right. I'm not going to say I've never sat on 434 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:35,600 Speaker 3: his lap. I'm not going to say that. 435 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: I mean, part of this is actually my fault because 436 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: I said, oh, we're just talking here about set me 437 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: up for that. Worry about the rest of it. Was 438 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 1: your first weekend radio. 439 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: We were talking about it being cold and then sharing 440 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 5: an electric blanket. 441 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: That's that was the context of it. Yeah, And so 442 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 3: that was I don't. 443 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 4: Think it's going to be so cold that we'll need 444 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 4: the electric blanket. Although the weather report that I continually 445 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,640 Speaker 4: monitored this week, Saturday's high has gone down, yeah, significantly, 446 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:11,880 Speaker 4: like it's in the what thirty eight is a high 447 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 4: and something like that. 448 00:22:13,119 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 5: Originally they were saying fifty and now they're saying maybe 449 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 5: even in the thirties at kickoff, would thirty eight being 450 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:23,199 Speaker 5: the thirties I'm talking. I'm talking like low thirties with 451 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 5: wind and a wind chill factor like twenty is what 452 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,359 Speaker 5: they're saying. 453 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:28,440 Speaker 3: They get the hell out of here. Now, you're making 454 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:28,800 Speaker 3: this up. 455 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 5: No, no, no, no, that's winchhill of in the twenties, 456 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,560 Speaker 5: a windshill Saturday dropping it to the twenties because like 457 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 5: at midnight Saturday night. Well, they're saying wind gust of 458 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:41,240 Speaker 5: twenty to twenty five miles. 459 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, we could be in Chicago. 460 00:22:45,680 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 2: Oh, oh my god, I see that. 461 00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:49,880 Speaker 3: Those games are fun to watch on TV. 462 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 4: Projected temperature at kickoff for the Rams and the Bears 463 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 4: eleven and the windshield no, I'm sorry, eighteen the windshield 464 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: will make it feel like it's six and win gust 465 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,760 Speaker 4: up to twenty five miles of rutal. 466 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 1: I always checking in with my guy, Chris Bianki, not news. 467 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: He says, Chilean breezy for the Broncos game on Saturday. 468 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,600 Speaker 1: Win will be a factor, though it'll be stronger pregame 469 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: might be enough to mess with kicks and punts. Thirties 470 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: during the game, but mainly Sonny wind chill around twenty 471 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: five to thirty throughout. He said, kick off thirty seven, 472 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: halftime thirty eight, final whistle thirty three. 473 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 3: That's not bad. 474 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 2: That's not about it, Dave said January and Denver. 475 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:33,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll be the coldest game of the year by far. 476 00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:37,000 Speaker 5: We've been so lucky on weather. I think the last 477 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 5: two years we've been. 478 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:40,439 Speaker 2: Lucky, a no doubt about it. 479 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 3: Man. 480 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,800 Speaker 1: There's been moments where it seemed like the snow would 481 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:43,800 Speaker 1: come in the middle of the week and then we 482 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,520 Speaker 1: get to the weekend and we're good to go. 483 00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 2: The wind is the bigger deal. 484 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:50,480 Speaker 1: And we've seen with bo Nick sometimes Dave win be 485 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 1: a little bit of a factor in his performance, haven't we. 486 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 3: Yes, Yeah, I think. 487 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: I mean that's that's the one element that you worry 488 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 4: the most about as a as an offensive player, whether 489 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:05,040 Speaker 4: you're a quarterback or receiver or what have. You more 490 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 4: reason to run the ball if it snows, if it rains, 491 00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:10,200 Speaker 4: I mean, you don't love it, might not even like it, 492 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 4: but you can still throw the ball in the snow 493 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,959 Speaker 4: and the rain. But the wind, if it's really wendy, 494 00:24:15,040 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 4: that becomes that becomes an issue. 495 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: So hopefully they run the ball. We want them to 496 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: anyways they want to. They want to run the. 497 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,600 Speaker 3: Run the ball, run the ball efficiently. 498 00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 4: Yes, don't run it and come up with second and 499 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 4: eighth's too often. 500 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:31,320 Speaker 1: We're talking about it in the break for a moment 501 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: about the Bills Jags game and how it's remarkable because 502 00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 1: what you'd like to see, I mean, of course the 503 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 1: Broncos win. Did you like to see the Broncos if 504 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: anything else be within a score of the fourth quarter 505 00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: Because I feel like for both these teams there's going 506 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: to be some positioning throughout. I don't think anybody's going 507 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 1: to run away with this thing, but you get to 508 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,359 Speaker 1: the fourth quarter and that's going to be kind of 509 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: the moment for both Bonicks and Josh Allen when they've 510 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 1: been at their best. Bonis especially this year and Josh 511 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: Allen over the course of his career. It's remarkable to 512 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,400 Speaker 1: look at that game because Jacksonville put together a ten place, 513 00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: seventy seven yard touchdown drive right before Josh Allen got 514 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:07,840 Speaker 1: the ball back with four minutes left. Yeah, now we 515 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: all knew you're watching it at home. You know, Josh 516 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:11,680 Speaker 1: Allen's gonna score a touchdown there. 517 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 4: Well, I mean, had I had friends that thought the 518 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,240 Speaker 4: game is over, that Jacksonville was gonna win it, I 519 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 4: think everybody. And Jet yeah, he called and said that's 520 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:23,719 Speaker 4: the end of the Bills. I'm like, I don't. I 521 00:25:23,760 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 4: don't think so. 522 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:26,840 Speaker 1: So four minutes left, they put together a nine place 523 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 1: sixty six yard drive which included that fourth and one 524 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: push push that basically went nearly ten yards to the 525 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:32,959 Speaker 1: end zone. 526 00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: They should have I thought they made a I thought 527 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: they made a calculated mistake right there. You have like 528 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 4: a minute and three left, Jacksonville's out of timeouts. I know, 529 00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 4: obviously you're down four, but at least on first down, 530 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 4: I think. 531 00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: You have to take a knee and let that clock run. 532 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 4: Yes, now, then if you can't get it in on second, third, 533 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 4: and fourth down, of course, then that's faulty logic. But man, 534 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,119 Speaker 4: oh man, they score right away, and I'm thinking you 535 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 4: scored way too. 536 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: Early, everybody. I mean, that was ma'am. I was on 537 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: Twitter at the time, as you imagine. Yeah, and that 538 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: was the consensus, like, oh boy, you gave Trevor Lawrence 539 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: a minute and only needs is three points of time. 540 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: Send this thing go over right with that kicker, Yes, 541 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,400 Speaker 1: with that with Cam Little Yeah, no doubt about it. 542 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:17,800 Speaker 1: So it's remarkable because if the Broncos find themselves in 543 00:26:17,800 --> 00:26:20,359 Speaker 1: a very similar situation, I'm gonna fel pretty good if 544 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 1: they get a minute left to drive the length of 545 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 1: the field and I fail then needs three to tie 546 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:27,119 Speaker 1: or maybe even a chance to win it. I like 547 00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:29,439 Speaker 1: Bonux's chances to be able to close in that situation. 548 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:33,239 Speaker 4: Yeah, I prefer being ahead by fourteen with I don't know, 549 00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:36,200 Speaker 4: forty seven seconds to go or something like that. 550 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:39,040 Speaker 3: I get your point. I think I think the Broncos 551 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 3: can rely on. 552 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 4: The fact of how many games they came back and 553 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 4: found a way to win again. 554 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 3: I've called that powerful. 555 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,119 Speaker 4: It's just something you can't quantify a deep down you 556 00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 4: just have a belief no matter what the circumstance, Like 557 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 4: you know what, we've done it before. Let's go boys 558 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 4: that touch bush. 559 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 5: I would think anytime the Bills are on even the 560 00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:08,320 Speaker 5: three yard line, when you look at how big Josh 561 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 5: Allen is, how strong he is, and if they're allowed 562 00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:14,120 Speaker 5: to pick up the guy and push him forward, put 563 00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: your coaching hat on, Dave, how do you stop that. 564 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 4: I'd go back and look at the film from last 565 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,680 Speaker 4: year in Kansas City, because they stopped it not once, 566 00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:25,199 Speaker 4: but they stopped it twice on fourth down, you know. 567 00:27:25,240 --> 00:27:29,800 Speaker 4: And I haven't looked at that closely enough to give 568 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 4: you an honest answer, but it's it's difficult to stop, 569 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,800 Speaker 4: for sure, absolutely, especially with the guy that big. 570 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:44,359 Speaker 1: Pay tush push Okay, I mean like she was that 571 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:45,160 Speaker 1: Sean mcdurrett. 572 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 5: Okay, John Hurts is one thing, but freaking Josh Allen. 573 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's huge, Yeah, six foot five, two hundred and 574 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: fifty pounds. 575 00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,680 Speaker 5: The one tush push was about for seven yards maybe 576 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 5: it seemed like. 577 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, And honestly, on first lass, I thought he did score. 578 00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 2: And Dave's one hundred percent right. 579 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,840 Speaker 1: You got to a minute left in the game, you're 580 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: at the one yard line, Jacksonville has already burned all 581 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:09,879 Speaker 1: their timeouts, which they had to at that point to 582 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: give himself a chance. Yeah, and then of course Jacksonville 583 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: just let him in. And that's I mean, that. 584 00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560 Speaker 2: Was the right call, William Conisa, no question, just let 585 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 2: him in, no question. 586 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:21,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, because if you try to stop him there, then 587 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: you're obviously gonna burn time. Reminder tomorrow at this time, 588 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Right around this time, we're gonna be giving away a 589 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: pair of Broncos Bills playoff tickets right after a coach's corner. 590 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:32,920 Speaker 2: So that's gonna be a lot of fun. 591 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: If you want to go to the game, you can 592 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,359 Speaker 1: listen here tomorrow a little after five thirty. Also, we 593 00:28:37,400 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: have a pair on KWA Instagram as well as a 594 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 1: pair on the KWA x page. 595 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 3: So, yeah, you're. 596 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 5: Going to kore a thermos with like chicken noodle soup 597 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 5: boiling hot water? 598 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 3: Bros? 599 00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,160 Speaker 2: Is that the number of my Jedi rope got? 600 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:59,040 Speaker 4: Not like boiling hot water? All that does is make 601 00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,960 Speaker 4: you want to go to the back? 602 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 3: Yeah? 603 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 5: I thought you were thinking like putting the thermos like 604 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 5: between your legs to kind of keep your legs warm. 605 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 5: And you, seriously, what has happened? I just are you 606 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 5: going to hold me a certain position? 607 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:10,840 Speaker 3: Lord? 608 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 4: We did have a texture. Why is the NFL? But 609 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: this from the seven to two eight one? Why is 610 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 4: the NFL a closed circle? Hire a local high school coach, 611 00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 4: I write, twenty two dive gets you the same amount 612 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 4: of yardage as all that gibberish. All right, well, keep 613 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 4: it simple, I guess I keep it simple. Yeah, and 614 00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,120 Speaker 4: let's uh explain the what is that a jacket? 615 00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 3: A shawl? Uh? 616 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 2: It's all the above. 617 00:29:36,040 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: It's very comfortable, it's warm, haunch o, it's kind of 618 00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: a it almost looks like a like a quilted Jedi 619 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,400 Speaker 1: robe if you think of the big Lebowski. 620 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're going through a Leboski 621 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 2: dude face. 622 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: So okay. 623 00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 5: They sell similar things like that on the beach in Mexico, 624 00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 5: similar like a poncho kind of thing. 625 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure's where I got it? 626 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 2: Did you just find out on the street. I'm pretty 627 00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: sure I got this in Mexico like eight years ago. 628 00:29:58,840 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. 629 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 4: Like you, I don't remember, really, I don't don't remember 630 00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:03,280 Speaker 4: where you got that. 631 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:03,720 Speaker 3: I do not. 632 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: I remember I got like eight nine years ago, and 633 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 1: I was like, this was a great purchase. 634 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:08,760 Speaker 2: Is that what you think? 635 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 1: Every time you look in the mirror and you see 636 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: yourself like that, you don't think like this is rock bottom. 637 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,680 Speaker 1: There's a moment there where it's almost like an art 638 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:16,360 Speaker 1: or Fondsarelli thing where I just kind of look and 639 00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I'm like and then I just you know, no notes, 640 00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 1: no notes? 641 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 3: What do you pay for? That on the beach in Mexico. 642 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't remember eight bucks American six thousand payesels, which 643 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: is a you know, ten American cents or whatever. 644 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 2: I think it's a dog bag before. 645 00:30:34,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 3: The hell of a drug. 646 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: By the way, very quickly, so we were talking about 647 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 1: how we're gonna give away a pair of tickets tomorrow 648 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: on our show. 649 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:44,959 Speaker 2: You were telling us that you're giving away a single ticket. 650 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 3: Yeah. 651 00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:47,680 Speaker 5: I just found out from our program director we have 652 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 5: one ticket to give away on the. 653 00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 3: Hell I've never heard of this. 654 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,560 Speaker 1: I got, Well, guess what Mandy's got the other one. 655 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: So Mandy's giving a single ticket on her show. 656 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 3: How many people? How many? 657 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 4: How many of Manny Mandy's listening audience do you think 658 00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 4: also crosses over and listens to Rick and Kathy. 659 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,520 Speaker 5: That's a good question, that's a great question. Not many. 660 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 5: I don't think many. No, but don't want to hook 661 00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 5: up with Mandy? Contest figure out like, yeah, yeah, I'm 662 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 5: gonna call HER's chances. Oh those two people are gonna 663 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,000 Speaker 5: sit right next to you, right right? Yeah, so you could, 664 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 5: I mean you could. You could have a good contest. 665 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:35,000 Speaker 5: So we're looking for the loneliest guy in Colorado tomorrow 666 00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:38,720 Speaker 5: the show. Well, any loneliest person, well, I mean, I'm 667 00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:43,240 Speaker 5: right here. You know you didn't qualify. You only dress 668 00:31:43,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 5: like the longlist. Don't qualify. We know you're really the lowliest. 669 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:56,120 Speaker 2: Sad show. 670 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 3: It looks like a potato soacamore. I got this in 671 00:31:58,360 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 3: Mexico