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Speaker 1: Happy Wednesday to you. Real quick listener to lunch. Going

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Speaker 1: to be a Matt Tree brewer today. Summit Park, Luash

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Speaker 1: location and without further adom really excited about talking with

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Speaker 1: Gary Benoy. He's the editor in chief of The New American,

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Speaker 1: which is a political affiliate of the John Birch Society,

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Speaker 1: and author of the book We're going to be speaking

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Speaker 1: about today Today Vanguard of Americans caused a close look

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Speaker 1: at the John Birch Society. He's been a member of

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Speaker 1: editor of The New American in nineteen eighty six, and

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Speaker 1: he's assumed his current position is editor in chief since

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. Over the years, he served as director

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Speaker 1: of the Birch Society's Research Department, editor of the John

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Speaker 1: Birch Society, Bolton, and the publisher of The New American.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the fifty five Case Morning Show, Gary Benoy.

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Speaker 1: It's a real pleasure to have you on the program, Sir,

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Speaker 1: It's a.

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Speaker 2: Pleasure beyond Brian and thank you so much for inviting me.

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Speaker 1: Oh happy to and you know I was thinking about it.

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Speaker 1: John Birch Society has been the target of the slings

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Speaker 1: and arrows of outrage for years. You know, we people

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Speaker 1: call conspiracy theorists, and then we kind of call pattern observers,

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Speaker 1: and you hear these crazy ideas and these and these

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Speaker 1: conclusions about things, and you dismissed them as all, come on,

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Speaker 1: that's not going on. And then next thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: wait for a few years, and it turns out, well,

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Speaker 1: you know what, that conspiracy theorist ie pattern observer turns

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Speaker 1: out to be right. That's basically the John Bursa Society.

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Speaker 2: And that's absolutely true. And of course there were people

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Speaker 2: who dismissed us many years ago because they did think

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Speaker 2: that what we're saying was crazy. And a perfect example

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Speaker 2: would be the John Birch Society's position to get us

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Speaker 2: out of the United Nations. And back in the nineteen

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Speaker 2: seventies we had a major billboard campaign to get us

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Speaker 2: people laughed at that, because, my goodness, isn't the United

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Speaker 2: Nations mankind's last us hope for peace. But what we

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Speaker 2: were saying at the time is no, that's not true,

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Speaker 2: that this is a world government trap and that an

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Speaker 2: organization large enough to bring about global peace could also

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Speaker 2: use the power to impose global tyranny. And over the

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Speaker 2: years people realized that that is the case, and more

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Speaker 2: of the United Nations. So that's just one example of

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Speaker 2: where people thought we were crazy but then learn all

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Speaker 2: over time that we were correct.

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Speaker 1: Well, you know, that's one of the benefits Gary and

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Speaker 1: I might observe Gary about the modern age. As critical

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Speaker 1: have real time information about what is going on, like

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Speaker 1: how many people paid attention to UN votes outside of

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Speaker 1: the John Birch Society and those within the UN going

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Speaker 1: It is the UN downtown New York. What are they doing?

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Speaker 1: We have no idea. Nobody paid attention to it. You know,

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Speaker 1: Walter Conkit wasn't selecting pieces for his thirty minute news

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Speaker 1: United Nations. Now we know we have crazy dictatorships and

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Speaker 1: leading me to my question, Gary, why are we still

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Speaker 2: Well, actually, I think behind the scenes, some things are

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Speaker 2: it's a step by step process. It's like putting a

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Speaker 2: And that is the same thing today. And a good

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Speaker 1: The many global wealth, deep redistribution, that's what it happens, yeah, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, it really isn't crazy, isn't it? Because any

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Speaker 2: But the good news is that more and more people

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Speaker 2: much trying to point out to people that something is wrong.

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Speaker 2: That was a big problem back in the nineteen sixties

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Speaker 2: because powerful people and high places are planning it that way.

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Speaker 2: And the purpose of the John Birch Society, which is

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Speaker 2: and the other purpose is to bring about less government,

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Speaker 2: more responsibility, and with God's help, a better world. And

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Speaker 2: the John Birch Society is not a political organization at

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Speaker 2: least not in the political sense. Obviously he does deal

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Speaker 2: that if we create the awareness and we get people

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Speaker 1: Look Estha Gary Binoyd. He is the author of a

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Speaker 1: book you need to get a hold of, and it's

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Speaker 1: a Lincoln on my blog page, sir, that people can

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Speaker 1: easily get a copy of Vanguard. The American has cost,

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Speaker 1: which talks about the John Vertus Society's history, what they've done,

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Speaker 1: his history with them. Now, let us give us a

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Speaker 1: nefarious example of how this climate nonsense and plant food

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Speaker 1: that's killing the world. United Nations Agenda twenty thirty. When

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Speaker 1: in what they call the connected communities, the sort of

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Speaker 2: What it sure does. It's actually of the seventeen development

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Speaker 2: goals for the United Nations, Sustainable development goals. Of course

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Speaker 2: they call it sustainable development, but what is really meant

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Speaker 2: by sustainable is that ostensibly the affluent lifestyle the American people,

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Speaker 2: All these things are now considered unsustainable by the powers

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they certainly did trample on a right to free

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Speaker 2: Has it not absolutely I agree to completely Bryant. And actually,

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Speaker 2: So that is the transition that has taken place in

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Speaker 2: not forget that monopoly. Total monopoly would be total government.

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Speaker 2: You cannot have a bigger monopoly than that. And what

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Speaker 1: And get a copy of the book Vanguard of the Americans,

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Speaker 1: cause a close look at the John Birch Society, the victories,

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Speaker 1: some of the challenges they faced over the years. Hey,

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Speaker 1: a John Burst Society. Gary Benoy, thank you for sticking

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Speaker 1: a lot of callous to show for it, but you're

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Speaker 1: a great example to hold out for others to rise

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