WEBVTT - 11-4-25 Scott with Catherine Athans

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<v Speaker 1>On seven hundred wlwoh, yes, the time change. You wake up,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dark outside, you get home from work, it's dark outside,

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<v Speaker 1>just darkness and developing like we need this right now. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>all the bad news in the world, it just makes

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<v Speaker 1>things worse. Doctor Catherine Athens is a expert in this

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<v Speaker 1>area and author of numerous books. And there's a connection

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<v Speaker 1>between the darkness and our mental health. We all know

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<v Speaker 1>about this, but what new information is there out there?

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<v Speaker 1>And how do you cope with it? As we lose

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<v Speaker 1>time another hour this weekend, Doctor Catherine, good morning, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm fine, Thank you, good morning, thanks for having me,

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<v Speaker 2>and good morning to all your listeners as well.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm already just thinking about the time change, getting depressed.

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<v Speaker 3>I know. It's funny.

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<v Speaker 1>When I was younger, I mean, I love cold weather,

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<v Speaker 1>love the snow and all that stuff. But the fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>hours of darkness a day, it really hasn't effect the

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<v Speaker 1>owner I get the worst it is? Is there some

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<v Speaker 1>is there connecting with an age and lack of sunlight?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, we don't get as much sunlight when we get older,

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<v Speaker 2>do We were not outside playing all the time? You know,

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<v Speaker 2>kids are outside, We tell them go outside. And play

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<v Speaker 2>and although you know with a digital age it may

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<v Speaker 2>have changed a lot. But adults are behind a desk,

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<v Speaker 2>usually sitting under a fluorescent light, which is not good

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<v Speaker 2>for the brain at all. And usually we're stooped over,

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<v Speaker 2>we're dehydrated, we're drinking coffee to stay away, or maybe

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<v Speaker 2>eating that nice jelly donut, and we're just trying to

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<v Speaker 2>brace ourselves to get through the day. So the thing

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<v Speaker 2>to do in the morning is to drink some warm water.

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<v Speaker 2>You can drink it with lemon. You can put a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of apple cider vinegar in there, which is

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<v Speaker 2>good for cleaning the kidneys and the liver, which are

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<v Speaker 2>two organs that help get rid of poisons. So why

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<v Speaker 2>do we get depressed? We become over poxified in our

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<v Speaker 2>bodies because we're stationary and the things we eat aren't

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<v Speaker 2>necessarily nurishing. They taste good, though, So I tell people

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<v Speaker 2>think about the basics. Think about doing some deep breathing,

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<v Speaker 2>starting your day with an affirmation of something positive. Think

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<v Speaker 2>about that during the day, and sip water. Bring a

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<v Speaker 2>water bottle or water container, sip it all day. The

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<v Speaker 2>brain needs water to function, and most of us are dehydrated, especially.

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<v Speaker 1>When you're inside and the air is dryer, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>as humid, you're not, so you spend more time in

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<v Speaker 1>die Why you get sick because you're dried out. So

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<v Speaker 1>hydration is a critical thing to remaining well in the

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<v Speaker 1>winter months, for sure. What does a lemon do for me?

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<v Speaker 3>Though? How does that?

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<v Speaker 1>Does that beat depression in the lack of sunlight? Is

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<v Speaker 1>it's vitamin C.

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<v Speaker 2>It's vitamin C. But it also helps to cleanse the liver.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, God bless our livers because they're always

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<v Speaker 2>pulling toison out of our bloodstreams for us and trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of it so it doesn't circulate so

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<v Speaker 2>much around the body, and the limit helps the liver

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<v Speaker 2>do that. It also helps the kidneys to function, and

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<v Speaker 2>it helps the water to taste better so you'll drink it. Sure,

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<v Speaker 2>So there's lots of good reasons. You know. The thought

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<v Speaker 2>of this darkness is horrific for people. So I help

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<v Speaker 2>people look start by getting out in the sun more

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<v Speaker 2>often when there is sun. Try to take your lunch

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<v Speaker 2>break and maybe take something like this sandwich that you

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<v Speaker 2>can eat while you're slowly walking, or go to the

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<v Speaker 2>park and sit in the sun. And they have a

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<v Speaker 2>little bite to eat, so that way you're getting more sun.

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<v Speaker 2>Even though we're not getting more sun, that will help

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<v Speaker 2>the brain a.

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<v Speaker 1>Lot, right, But I mean, here's the problem here, doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Catherine Athens. Here's the problem with Cincinnati, Ohio. Problem with Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>Ohio is we literally will not see the sun until

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<v Speaker 1>opening day this year when the red started, and even

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<v Speaker 1>then that may be again, but there may be a

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<v Speaker 1>couple hours. I think in the next six months we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see the sun. But it's just a mere rumor. It's

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<v Speaker 1>actually a lot of people right around April start to

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<v Speaker 1>question whether or not the sun actually exists, if it's

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<v Speaker 1>not just one of those Internet rumors or a myth

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<v Speaker 1>or fake news or something like that, because we're pretty

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<v Speaker 1>sure after by the time we get through February that

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<v Speaker 1>the sun just doesn't exist anymore.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, all right, Well, there are things you can do.

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<v Speaker 2>There is something called full spectrum light bulbs that you

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<v Speaker 2>can buy and replace your light bulbs at home with

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<v Speaker 2>the full spectrum because part of the seasonal effective disorder,

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<v Speaker 2>that depression, is we're not getting some of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 2>of the sun. If you're really bad off, there are

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<v Speaker 2>machines that you can buy. They're not too expensive, and

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<v Speaker 2>they will you can sit have them sit in front

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<v Speaker 2>of you. You can watch TV or listen to the

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<v Speaker 2>radio and they will project full spectrum light at you.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, how many? How many hours?

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<v Speaker 2>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>My wife got me one last year of Christmas. I

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<v Speaker 1>said I'm gonna try. I never used it because I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just naturally positive. As you can tell here. I'm a

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<v Speaker 1>national treasure, is what I am. Doctor, and I have

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<v Speaker 1>a user. Yeah, I plan on maybe cracking that thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>How long?

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<v Speaker 1>How many hours a day? If you've got the happy

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<v Speaker 1>light as they call them, they're pretty cheap. You can

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<v Speaker 1>get on Amazon too. I didn't know about the light bulbs.

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<v Speaker 1>You could full spectrum light bulbs and the same thing.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you got your I don't know, your easy

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<v Speaker 1>chair next to your couture, you know, light next to

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<v Speaker 1>your touch plays, use that when you're sitting there watching TV.

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<v Speaker 3>How many hours a day do you need that?

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<v Speaker 2>Though not very many? Actually you could start off with

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<v Speaker 2>maybe two, one in the morning and one in the evening.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, maybe two. If you don't have two, start

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<v Speaker 2>off with twenty minutes a few times a day if

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<v Speaker 2>you're home, but at least twenty minutes at a time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's really very useful. It helps a lot. It

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<v Speaker 2>helps to retard that sad kind of syndrome in the

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<v Speaker 2>winter with no light. Another thing is, if it's too

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<v Speaker 2>cold to go outside, do some aerobic exercise inside. Get

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<v Speaker 2>the blood going through your body, you know, get circulation

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<v Speaker 2>going along with the light, and that will help the

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<v Speaker 2>feeling of sadness and depression. It will actually make you

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<v Speaker 2>feel better, more positive.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, exercise is good for you.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I noticed in the days that if I

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<v Speaker 1>go a few days between workouts, I notice I start

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<v Speaker 1>to get a little more tired and irritable than I

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<v Speaker 1>normally am. And it's because I'm missing my workout. So

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<v Speaker 1>I get that. Doctor Katin Athens on the show this

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<v Speaker 1>morning on seven hundred WLW got the time change. We

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<v Speaker 1>lose an hour and now darkness will encompass us and

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<v Speaker 1>develop us here for the next five months, roughly in Cincinnati,

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<v Speaker 1>we won't see the sun maybe for a couple of minutes,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, in the next five months here too. Some

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<v Speaker 1>may say the sun was cut out in an extreme

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of extreme budget cut or something like that,

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<v Speaker 1>and or maybe the sun was captured and stolen by

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<v Speaker 1>aliens or we just don't get You will not see

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<v Speaker 1>the sun for quite some time in Cincinnati that south

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<v Speaker 1>is Does that effect your sleep then too? I know

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<v Speaker 1>that sun and sleep generally are at odds with one another,

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<v Speaker 1>but does it mess with a sleep cycle too?

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<v Speaker 2>It absolutely does. Our sleep cycle or circadian rhythms all

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<v Speaker 2>get off. So I ask people to go to bed

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<v Speaker 2>that hour earlier. Even though it says, you know, it

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<v Speaker 2>says four o'clock, it is actually five. So go to

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<v Speaker 2>bed when you normally go to bed for a while,

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<v Speaker 2>and then you can increase your bedtime maybe ten minutes

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<v Speaker 2>each week, but go to bed. Try to maintain those

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<v Speaker 2>same habits you have and get a lot of sleep.

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<v Speaker 2>And yes, the sun, the sun activates trying to think

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<v Speaker 2>of the name of the organs in the back of

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<v Speaker 2>your head, and when you're in the sun, they're activated.

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<v Speaker 2>When you're in the dark, they secrete melatonin. So you

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<v Speaker 2>want to be in a dark room to sleep, but

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<v Speaker 2>you want to have had some full spectrum light, whether

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<v Speaker 2>it be the happy machine or you're light bulb, or

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<v Speaker 2>for some reason there is some sunshine. Because that balance

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<v Speaker 2>is the brain. Now you notice in the winter time,

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<v Speaker 2>people become less friendly, more irritable, just because we're not

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<v Speaker 2>moving as much and we're not drinking enough water. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>just think about the holidays here. You don't drink all year,

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<v Speaker 2>and you don't eat much, and suddenly you're drinking like

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<v Speaker 2>crazy on Thanksgiving. You're eating all kinds of stuff you

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<v Speaker 2>never eat the rest of the year, and then you

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<v Speaker 2>feel miserable and you go, why am I feeling so bad?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I'm living my life like a medieval

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<v Speaker 1>king or something. I'm eating literally just eating giant geese

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<v Speaker 1>neck and the drumsticks, and I'm drinking wine and meat,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm just having a black asked. But then you

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<v Speaker 1>feel like crap after. It's kind of like when you

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<v Speaker 1>eat all the Halloween candy, the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Thing, right, right, So don't I tell people don't use moderation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but that's no fun. That's no fun though, It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's uh. I. I I'm the other extreme though. I

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<v Speaker 1>believe in everything in its excess. I think if you

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<v Speaker 1>I think it'll balance, it balances. I'll work out for

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<v Speaker 1>three straight days and I'm gonna eat for nine straight days.

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<v Speaker 3>What about that?

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<v Speaker 2>All? What most people do you're right in the groove.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I worked out? Why am I gaining weight? When

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<v Speaker 2>did you work out last week?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Well, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Want to rush into anything. I could strain something.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. That's true.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to I don't want to jump in

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<v Speaker 1>this exercise thing. You know, Well, at the time change

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<v Speaker 1>here and losing an hour sleep. It's also to trying

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<v Speaker 1>to get your body set because uh, you know the

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<v Speaker 1>week when they tell you the clock changes, and then

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<v Speaker 1>it take a week to get your body right again.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it better? Is it kind of like jet legs?

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<v Speaker 1>Should you just go to bed at the same time?

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<v Speaker 2>Or yes, go to bed at the same time. We

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<v Speaker 2>actually gain an hour, but the hour we gain is darkness.

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<v Speaker 2>So go to bed at the same time, get up

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<v Speaker 2>at the same time, and then slowly work into the

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<v Speaker 2>new time zone. You know, if you can go to

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<v Speaker 2>bed at the same time, get up at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Drink your water. Now, if you want to know how

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<v Speaker 2>much water you should add, take your body weight. Say

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<v Speaker 2>you weigh one fifty, divide it in half. That's seventy

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<v Speaker 2>five and those are ounces. You need seventy five ounces

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<v Speaker 2>of water a day, which is huge it's more than

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<v Speaker 2>half a gallon.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's something you sip on a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of water all day. Go I had like two

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<v Speaker 1>bottles of water. That's not it's not from it. And

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<v Speaker 1>then if you're active, you need even more water.

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<v Speaker 2>For that matter, if you're active, you need more water.

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<v Speaker 2>And so the brain doesn't function without water. It doesn't function.

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<v Speaker 2>Functions on glucose, water and amino acids. And most of

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<v Speaker 2>us don't get enough amino acids because we're dieting or

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<v Speaker 2>we're eating some kind of green and we're not looking

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<v Speaker 2>at the fact. We need a variety of amino acids

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<v Speaker 2>for the brain to function properly. But we also need

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<v Speaker 2>each other. We need human interaction face to face for

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<v Speaker 2>the brain and the neural pathways to function properly. I recommend,

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<v Speaker 2>if you do nothing else, go to the market or

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<v Speaker 2>the hardware store or the Walmart, whatever, and start saying

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<v Speaker 2>hello to people, Hello, how are you good morning?

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<v Speaker 3>What if you just hate people? Is there no hope

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<v Speaker 3>for you? Is it terminal? What's going on there? Doctor?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it could be no.

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<v Speaker 3>The reels, I don't go it's because people piss me off.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, well that's another story.

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<v Speaker 1>Just too many idiots in the world. I think people

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<v Speaker 1>are listening to the going right slowan. There's too many

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<v Speaker 1>idiots in the world, and that's why I tend to

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<v Speaker 1>just stay home and eat and be mindless of myself.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, we have do you think as a doctor

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<v Speaker 1>and you studied this stuff again on the show this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>It's doctor Catherine Athens, and she is an expert in

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<v Speaker 1>the area of sleep. And we've got one in five

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<v Speaker 1>Americans experiencing winter blues, according to the Cleveland Clinic. And

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<v Speaker 1>they would know because there's no more depressing place in

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<v Speaker 1>the world in Cleveland. So the Cleveland Clinic people, I

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<v Speaker 1>would agree with them, and maybe even two and five

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<v Speaker 1>at this point too. But she's a clinical and health

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<v Speaker 1>psychologist and she's on the show talking about the time

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<v Speaker 1>change here and what that means for you, how to

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<v Speaker 1>combat with happy lights and making sure you're getting hydrated

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<v Speaker 1>well enough and all that. Should we get away with

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<v Speaker 1>daylight savings time in the clock four o'clock back?

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<v Speaker 2>Nonsense, you bet you we should. And in California we

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<v Speaker 2>voted I think six years ago to do away with that,

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<v Speaker 2>but we still have to do it. Someone isn't listening

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<v Speaker 2>to the people over here.

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<v Speaker 1>Well we have that problem here too. So it's not

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<v Speaker 1>just Ohio, it's also California.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, oh yeah, so big what is here?

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<v Speaker 1>But yes, time change the least of those problems you

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<v Speaker 1>got over there, that's for dam I'm sure. So uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to me. I just keep one steady, constant

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<v Speaker 1>time and we're good there this, you know, jumping back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth every six months. So really, you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>could see back in the day where you needed natural

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<v Speaker 1>daylight in order to get stuff done. But we have

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<v Speaker 1>electricity now, we've had electricity at least I think for

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<v Speaker 1>the last three or four years.

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<v Speaker 2>I believe, well we do. But you know, the charcoal

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<v Speaker 2>lobby wanted this daylight savings time because they found out

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<v Speaker 2>that was another hour or so of sunlight. They make

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<v Speaker 2>more money, the charcoal lobby. The charcoal lobby, no idea,

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<v Speaker 2>blame them for this.

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<v Speaker 1>Good lord, there's a big big charcoals behind all this

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<v Speaker 1>big kings. Yeah, yeah, there's a lobby for any you've

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<v Speaker 1>got politicians, you'll have a you'll have a lobby.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no doubt about it.

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<v Speaker 1>So doctor Catherine Athnes Athens at H A. N. S.

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<v Speaker 1>And thanks again for the time. And she has written

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<v Speaker 1>of several books as a matter of fact, the latest

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<v Speaker 1>call it The Heart Brain. And doctor Catherine Athens, thanks

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<v Speaker 1>for coming on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>It's my pleasure. And please everyone drink your water, don't

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<v Speaker 2>don't push yourself. Everybody's going through this miserable time change together,

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<v Speaker 2>so please just take your time and work yourself into it,

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<v Speaker 2>and then a few weeks you'll be you'll.

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<v Speaker 3>Be better, hopefully.

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<v Speaker 2>But well, let's not get get out your happy machine, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the good news is we have cheap flights to Florida.

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<v Speaker 1>If all else fails, get on a Legian or Delta

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever and get the hell out of town for

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<v Speaker 1>a few days.

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<v Speaker 3>That always helps. To doctor Catherine all the best.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks the YouTube. Bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Now today is the day because Sunday. Okay, time change.

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<v Speaker 3>It's Sunday.

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<v Speaker 1>You're watching football, the big deal. Monday rolls aren't yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's starting to affect you a little bit. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>sun's coming up in the morning or and when I

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<v Speaker 1>get home, it's getting dark and your mind is preparing

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. In addition to that, today is election day.

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<v Speaker 1>Election day. If you're in OHI make sure, you take

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<v Speaker 1>that id with you're gonna need it if you are

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<v Speaker 1>going to vote, and of course that pulls open. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>get a full update on what's happening there. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>chat with the council candidate if you haven't voted yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony Weiner running for council, one of the what twenty

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<v Speaker 1>nine people running for councils some along those lines, twenty

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<v Speaker 1>six people. It's a lot, let's put it that way,

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<v Speaker 1>a boatload of folks. Why should you vote for him?

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<v Speaker 1>And what he sees from an outsider's perspective, what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in is Mayol race? Very interesting. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that just ahead here slowly seven hundred WLW