1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Free agency is basically Black Friday for billionaires, except everyone's 2 00:00:04,760 --> 00:00:07,880 Speaker 1: been fighting over a tackle instead of a TV. Keep 3 00:00:07,920 --> 00:00:10,639 Speaker 1: it here for the latest signings by the Orange and Black. 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of this Cincinnati. 5 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,079 Speaker 2: Al Right, here you go, it's four oh four. This 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 2: is ESPN fifteen thirty. Moeger. Thanks for listening today, Thanks 7 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:25,920 Speaker 2: for watching work. But because Tarn wants to see if 8 00:00:25,920 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 2: we can get some sort of outburst from me watching 9 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:32,199 Speaker 2: the uc game, we are. We're broadcasting this on Twitter. 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: Bearcats are on a run now. It's twenty seven to 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 2: twenty Utah. I thought Utah called a time out. We 12 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 2: have a twenty three seconds to go. The Bearcats are 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,840 Speaker 2: now up by nine points. Cincinnati on a twelve zip 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 2: run after a slow start. Cincinnati trying to advance to tomorrow, 15 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 2: the second round of the Big twelve Tournament, they would 16 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: take on UCF. First things first, got to take care 17 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 2: of business against Utah, and after a slow start, the 18 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:02,960 Speaker 2: Cats are up by nine points. After what I thought 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:06,679 Speaker 2: was a thoroughly disappointing performance on Saturday against TCU. It 20 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:09,759 Speaker 2: was disappointing, not so much that they lost the game. 21 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 2: I'm not sure there's any large shame in losing at TCU, 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 2: even when your season is hanging in the balance. I 23 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: think relative to how the Bearcats had played the previous 24 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 2: three or four weeks, the performance itself was highly discouraging, sloppy, 25 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 2: tons of turnovers, not a lot of focus. Today started slow, 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: but the Cats will take a nine point lead into 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: the locker room after Keishaan Tillery misses a shot to 28 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: end the first half twenty nine to twenty, Cincinnati on 29 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 2: top over Utah. There are, and I mentioned this before, 30 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: a handful of teams playing either today or tonight, who 31 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,200 Speaker 2: if you're a Bearcat fan, you're hoping could help out, 32 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: because I think the prevailing sentiment is well, if Cincinnati 33 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:57,680 Speaker 2: wins tonight or today, and then wins again tomorrow against 34 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 2: a UCF team that I think at this mall is 35 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 2: a tournament team, and then they stun Arizona on a 36 00:02:07,440 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 2: third game in three days, when Arizona's got the double 37 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 2: buy that they're in and maybe that's the case. UCF 38 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 2: game is interesting because UCF and the net is fifty 39 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,960 Speaker 2: one and fifty one in the net, which means that's 40 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: a Q two game tomorrow. Now, it's not what you 41 00:02:24,600 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 2: are at the time. It's what you end up being. 42 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: The Arizona game clearly a Q one game. The Utah 43 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 2: game they're playing right now a Q three games, so 44 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:34,079 Speaker 2: they're not going to get a ton of credit. But 45 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 2: you could still use some help from the teams around you. 46 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: One of those teams is Stanford. Stanford just lost to 47 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 2: a bad Pittsburgh team in the opening round of the 48 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,640 Speaker 2: ACC tournament, so some help today. You could use some 49 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:50,760 Speaker 2: help from Wake Forest over Virginia Tech. You could use 50 00:02:50,760 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: some help from Syracuse taking on SMU. You could use 51 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 2: some help from Gonzaga taking on Santa Clara in the 52 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 2: final of the West Coast Conference turn after a thrilling, 53 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:05,839 Speaker 2: if that's the right word. Santa Clara went over Mount 54 00:03:05,840 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: Saint Mary's last night. So all those games to pay 55 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 2: attention to, plus Indiana tomorrow against either Penn State or 56 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: Northwestern Auburn tomorrow against Mississippi State. The bottom line, though, 57 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 2: is the Bearcats have to do some work in Kansas City, 58 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: and that starts with beating Utah. Right now, the Bearcats 59 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 2: do have a nine point lead at halftime. We will 60 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,440 Speaker 2: try to go to Kansas City and chat with our 61 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 2: friend Scott Springer. If he has time, he's got his 62 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 2: job to do. By the way, I made a mistake. 63 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 2: I mentioned Santa Clara's win over Mount Saint Mary's. They 64 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: beat Saint Mary's, and there's a marked difference between the two. 65 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 2: My mistake, not the first, not the last. Meanwhile, on 66 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 2: top of all the Bengal stuff, which we'll get to 67 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 2: in greater detail a little bit later on, we've got 68 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 2: the Hunter Green situation. So is scheduled to have a 69 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: scope on his elbow tomorrow and what they're gonna do 70 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 2: is remove bone chips and loose bodies. This is a 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: fourteen to sixteen week timeline for his return, which would 72 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 2: set him up to return to the mound sometime in July. 73 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: Our guy, Charlie Goldsmith, who is just cranking out an 74 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 2: unbelievable amount of content in goodyear, both Reds and Bengals related, 75 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,160 Speaker 2: writes today about the Hunter Green timeline. And I don't 76 00:04:31,160 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 2: want to give away all of Charlie's work, but you 77 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:37,600 Speaker 2: know he writes about Hunter feeling discomfort in his elbow 78 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,920 Speaker 2: toward the end of twenty twenty five, which is something 79 00:04:39,920 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: that we found out about last week. Hunter at times 80 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: pitched really well in spite of that discomfort, But it 81 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 2: was there. Terry Francono, when asked about it today, said, quote, 82 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 2: he never told me any of that. So Hunter Green 83 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 2: never told his manager that he was dealing with elbow discomfort. 84 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 2: He continues, quote, I know he has mentioned it to 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: a Derek Johnson. He was always telling me that he 86 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: was good. I like the way he was pitching the trainers. 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 2: We're never going to send somebody out there if they 88 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 2: shouldn't pitch or play. Ever, so the season ends, and 89 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: as Charlie outlines here, Hunter then met with doctor Neil Ellatratsch, 90 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,080 Speaker 2: who he met with this weekend, met with yesterday, I 91 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 2: guess in Los Angeles in late October. They tell Hunter 92 00:05:25,680 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 2: to get the PRP injection and apparently that helped. But 93 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 2: then right before the start of spring training, there's more 94 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:38,719 Speaker 2: discomfort and he made a spring training debut. It did 95 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,080 Speaker 2: not go all that well, and Nick Crawl says, well, 96 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 2: you could tell because he didn't throw a splitter at all. 97 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: He was having trouble pulling his slider. So there's a 98 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:49,919 Speaker 2: couple of things here that you cannot help. But ask 99 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:55,279 Speaker 2: one is why didn't Hunter get the procedure that he's 100 00:05:55,320 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: having done tomorrow done in October. And man, this dude 101 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 2: that he talked to, this doctor, Neil Ellatratch, this guy's renown, Like, 102 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: this guy is a great reputation. I'm not a doctor. 103 00:06:08,200 --> 00:06:11,720 Speaker 2: We are getting one on the show tomorrow. But the 104 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: platelet rich projection or platelet rich plasma injection, I should say, 105 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 2: strikes me as different from the procedure they're going to 106 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: do tomorrow, which I don't know. I don't know. It 107 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 2: seems to me like the better course of action would 108 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,200 Speaker 2: have been to go and go ahead and have the 109 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: scope done, go ahead and have the procedure that he's 110 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,839 Speaker 2: having done tomorrow done. If you do that in October, 111 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 2: well then Hunter Green is good to go, at least 112 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:45,840 Speaker 2: by opening day, probably for the start of spring training. 113 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,160 Speaker 2: So number one, like, why didn't you just get that? 114 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: And I'm asking here and I'm not qualified, barely qualified 115 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 2: for the job that I have much less to tell 116 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: a doctor, here's what you should have done with a 117 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: prized elbow. But you can't but wonder, right, if ultimately 118 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 2: this required this procedure, why didn't you have the procedure 119 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,120 Speaker 2: done when it wouldn't have cost you any time at all, 120 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 2: or maybe just a little bit of time. Instead, it's 121 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 2: going to cost Hunter Green like maybe half the season 122 00:07:14,800 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 2: and perhaps even more. Also here man last year, it 123 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 2: felt like there was a disconnect between Hunter Green and 124 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: the Reds as it related to his return from a 125 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: groin injury, and maybe you felt like Hunter Green deserves 126 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:34,360 Speaker 2: some internal criticism for how he was handling the injury, 127 00:07:34,920 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: and maybe you feel like a lot of the stuff 128 00:07:36,800 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 2: that was being sort of leaked to reporters was a 129 00:07:39,520 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 2: little bit unfair. Regardless of whose fault you think it was, 130 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: it felt like there was a disconnect between Hunter Green 131 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 2: and the team. That disconnect still feels like it's ongoing. Now, 132 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: does that disconnect have to be something that dooms Hunter's 133 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 2: career or his relationship with the team. Not necessarily, but 134 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,480 Speaker 2: it certainly feels like the disconnect from last year wasn't 135 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: completely addressed or fixed, because it still feels like there's 136 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: a disconnect today between Hunter and the Reds as it 137 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 2: relates to maybe him telling them last year in October, 138 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 2: last year in September I should say hey, my elbows 139 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:27,679 Speaker 2: hurting me, or him telling them like, hey, here's where 140 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 2: things are now that the season is over, and let's 141 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 2: be aggressive in taking a look at it and maybe 142 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 2: having a procedure so that I don't have to miss 143 00:08:34,080 --> 00:08:36,640 Speaker 2: any time in twenty twenty six. It feels like there's 144 00:08:36,679 --> 00:08:40,440 Speaker 2: a disconnect. When is that going to be fixed? Is 145 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: it going to be fixed? And as long as it's 146 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: not fixed, is it helpful to have one of the 147 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 2: faces of your franchise not on the same page as 148 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 2: the people who run the franchise? Fair questions? From a 149 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 2: peer baseball perspective, there's also this, and this might be 150 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:01,280 Speaker 2: what matters most to you right now. The Reds have 151 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 2: really good starting pitching depth. And when you have a 152 00:09:03,840 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 2: competition for the fifth spot in your rotation that involves 153 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 2: Chase Burns and Rhet Louder and Brandon Williamson's that's pretty 154 00:09:11,040 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 2: good place. It's pretty good place to be. We talked 155 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 2: about that when spring training started. If the competition for 156 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:18,679 Speaker 2: the fifth spot in your rotation is one of your 157 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 2: bigger issues you have to sort through during spring training, 158 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:25,200 Speaker 2: and it involves not some random re treads, not some 159 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 2: guys who used to be good, but you know, high 160 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 2: end arms that are valued young pitchers. That's pretty good. 161 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 2: But for the purposes of trying to win big this year, 162 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: which is what the Reds should be trying to do. 163 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 2: Say what you want about depth. Chase Burns has pitched 164 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: in exactly forty three and one third big league innings. 165 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,280 Speaker 2: Rhett Louder has pitched in exactly thirty and two thirds 166 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:54,079 Speaker 2: big league innings, none of them last year. Brandon Williamson 167 00:09:54,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 2: since the start of the twenty twenty four season fourteen 168 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 2: and one third big league innings. The strength of this 169 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: team is supposed to be at starting staff. And yes, 170 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 2: the strength of the starting staff is the collective the depth. 171 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:14,120 Speaker 2: There's a lot of teams, a ton of them that 172 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: if they lost the guy who is supposed to be 173 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 2: their staff, Ace would like to have some of those 174 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:22,839 Speaker 2: guys I just mentioned. But Number one, yes they're deep, 175 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 2: but they're not deep on experience. We have seen really 176 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: good pitchers, including guys who are in the rotation right now, 177 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 2: go through growing pains while they're going through their first 178 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 2: one hundred or so big league gettings. Number Two, man 179 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 2: like the strength of the team, even if the offense 180 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 2: is better, which most of us expect it to be, 181 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:45,960 Speaker 2: the strength of the team is supposed to be the 182 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 2: starting pitching. The starting pitching isn't as strong if you 183 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: don't have Hunter Green. And even if you bake in 184 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,319 Speaker 2: and I think most of us have, even if you 185 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: bake in the likelihood or at least the possibility that 186 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: there's going to be an injury somewhere where. Boy, it's 187 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 2: a little foreboding when already more than two weeks before 188 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: opening day, you've got a guy that your acknowledging is 189 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:15,319 Speaker 2: gonna miss at least I don't know, anywhere from fifteen 190 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,320 Speaker 2: to seventeen starts. Also, by the way, and you hate 191 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 2: to do this. Hunter Green, as talented as he is, like, 192 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: there's just there's now such an extensive injury history that 193 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 2: you either wonder, okay, is he really going to come 194 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 2: back on time? Or once he does come back, what's 195 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 2: gonna happen next? Like this, this is what happens when 196 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 2: you deal with an accumulation of injuries. By the way, 197 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: last year, the Reds and Hunter Green did not appear 198 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,439 Speaker 2: to be on the same page when it came to 199 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 2: how he worked at his return. Are we going to 200 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 2: have a similar thing this year where maybe the Reds 201 00:11:54,120 --> 00:11:56,760 Speaker 2: do believe this guy could pitch in July but Hunter's 202 00:11:56,800 --> 00:12:02,319 Speaker 2: actually not ready to pitch until September. Like, there's obviously 203 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,280 Speaker 2: so many more questions than answers here, but it does 204 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 2: feel like there's a disconnect between the two. And Yeah, man, 205 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 2: the Red staff may be deep, there may be a 206 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 2: lot of talent there, but you're already tapping into that 207 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 2: depth in the middle of March. Like you're already not 208 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 2: at full strength in the area of your team that's 209 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 2: supposed to be the strongest. And we're not two weeks 210 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 2: out of opening Day. So if the Reds strong suit 211 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 2: isn't as strong as it needs to be, can the 212 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 2: Reds as a club realize their complete potential? I think 213 00:12:53,080 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 2: most of us would agree. The idea isn't to simply 214 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 2: sneak into the postseason. It's not to you know, barely 215 00:12:58,320 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 2: get in. Tito has talked about this different occasions over 216 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: the course of the last couple of weeks. The idea 217 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 2: is to challenge for a division title, go into the 218 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 2: postseason with a head of steam, play in October, with 219 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 2: the ability to set your rotation, not have an overly 220 00:13:11,880 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 2: tax bullpen, not barely sneak in. Can they as a 221 00:13:17,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 2: team accomplish that? If already in March, we're talking about 222 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 2: the starting staff, these strong suit of the team being compromised. 223 00:13:30,440 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 2: Maybe the answer for you is yes. Maybe the answer 224 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:35,559 Speaker 2: for you is no, But it's it's a big question 225 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: right now. I get it might sound like fifteen to 226 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 2: seventeen starts, but we're already talking about having to tap 227 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:49,679 Speaker 2: into reserves in March. And again, man like Chase Burns 228 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:52,440 Speaker 2: is uber talented and I think we all agree he's 229 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 2: got a really bright future. And Brandon Williamson in twenty 230 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: twenty three certainly showed some flashes and rhet Louder when 231 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 2: he got two years ago at the end of the season, 232 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:08,560 Speaker 2: did a lot of really encouraging things. But you're asking 233 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: a lot of guys who have very little experience. And 234 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: if we're going to cling to the idea that Hunter 235 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: Green is gonna come back sometime in July, okay, are 236 00:14:18,559 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 2: we sure? And I hate to sound that skeptical, We 237 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 2: all do, like you, hate to be skeptical. Hunter's a 238 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 2: good guy and a terrific pitcher, but just last year 239 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 2: there seemed to be again I keep using the word disconnect, 240 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 2: a disconnect between Hunter and the Reds as it related 241 00:14:35,160 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 2: to his return as it related to his health, as 242 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: it related to his treatment, as it related to his rehab. 243 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 2: Are we sure we're not going to see those same 244 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 2: things now? I don't know about you, man, but I 245 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: think you bet on those things because it feels like 246 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 2: the relationship between the team and the player is not 247 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,920 Speaker 2: what it should be. Why wasn't that fixed this offseason? 248 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: And why wasn't Hunter Green's LOBO fixed this offseason? Nineteen 249 00:15:04,120 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: minutes after four o'clock, we will get one of our experts, 250 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 2: doctor Jonathan Slaughter from Ortho Sinsey, on this topic. Tomorrow. 251 00:15:10,080 --> 00:15:11,920 Speaker 2: We are looking forward to that. We'll go to Goodyear 252 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: and talk to Charlie Goldsmith coming up at five five 253 00:15:16,320 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 2: most definitely looking forward to that. Twenty nine twenty Cincinnati 254 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: on top of Utah's they get set to start the 255 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 2: second half in the Big twelve Tournament. We'll talk sports 256 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: and the law coming up with our guy from the 257 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 2: Manila Law Group, Stuart W. Penrose. That is going to 258 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,400 Speaker 2: be a four to thirty five. Bengals had a really 259 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 2: good day yesterday. We'll get to what they did do 260 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 2: and what they now should do next on ESPN fifteen 261 00:15:40,360 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 2: thirty Cincinnati Sports Nation. 262 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen WCKY, Cincinnati and iHeartRadio station Garan teed 263 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:53,240 Speaker 3: Human ESPN fifteen thirty. 264 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 2: I heard radio under seventeen to go cats by eight 265 00:15:57,600 --> 00:16:00,320 Speaker 2: thirty four to twenty six in Kansas City now thirty 266 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: four to twenty eight. I don't know how many paint 267 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 2: points Utah has, but it feels like to you men, 268 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: we have pull questions on Twitter at Moegar thanks to 269 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 2: United Heartland Insurance. I actually posed this late last night, 270 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 2: so it's it's gotten a ton of votes, but you 271 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 2: can vote now. Yesterday was legal tampering day one for 272 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 2: the Bengals, and today day two, not a ton has 273 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,440 Speaker 2: happened so far, though it was about this time yesterday, 274 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 2: maybe a little bit earlier, we found out about the 275 00:16:28,280 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 2: two big signings they had made. So I just I 276 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 2: asked you to encapsulate day one a transformative success, be 277 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: encouraging start c men, or d major disappointment. I think 278 00:16:41,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 2: I think most of us would agree, and on Twitter 279 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 2: most of us do over eighty percent encouraging start vote 280 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: now at Moeger really quick here and we'll take a 281 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,320 Speaker 2: phone call or two. The Trey Hendrickson thing, which let's 282 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:01,800 Speaker 2: be honest, as much fun as we've had with Trey, 283 00:17:01,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 2: it's gotten exhausting. He hasn't signed with anybody yet. That 284 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 2: doesn't mean that he won't. It doesn't mean that he 285 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 2: won't get what he's looking for. Perhaps he does, but 286 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 2: you can't help. But you can't help. But at least 287 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 2: wonder did the league's impression of Trey or opinion of 288 00:17:19,760 --> 00:17:22,440 Speaker 2: Trey match what the Bengals opinion of Tray was, which 289 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 2: was a little bit of a one trick pony whose 290 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:30,679 Speaker 2: best seasons are probably behind him. Still a good player, 291 00:17:31,680 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 2: still a guy who could help you win, but not 292 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: somebody that's worth the kind of coin that Trey is 293 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:41,439 Speaker 2: looking for. Concerns about age, concerns about injury. It was 294 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 2: always going to be fascinating to see. Did Trey sign 295 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 2: almost instantly? Were teams just pushing each other out of 296 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 2: the way to give him top dollar? And if so, 297 00:17:51,880 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 2: you know what would that say about the Bengals Right now? 298 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 2: It feels like for all the criticism the Bengals have taken, 299 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 2: and by the way, they deserve it for not trading 300 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 2: them last year, but a lot of people looked at 301 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 2: the Bengals and said they're off base. They're being too cheap. 302 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:07,199 Speaker 2: They don't recognize how good this guy is. They're not 303 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:11,040 Speaker 2: rewarding him that they've not evaluated him correctly. Right now, 304 00:18:11,080 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 2: it feels like the rest of the NFL is evaluating 305 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 2: Trey Hendricks in the same way the Bengals have. That 306 00:18:16,359 --> 00:18:18,679 Speaker 2: could change based on what he gets when he signs 307 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 2: he signs with, but right now it feels like the 308 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 2: league's opinion of the Bengals matches. I should say the 309 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 2: league's opinion of Trey matches the Bengals opinion of Trey, 310 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:32,639 Speaker 2: which is we like him, like to have him, not 311 00:18:32,680 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 2: going to get him specifically what he's looking for because 312 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:39,119 Speaker 2: of his age, of the kind of player he is, 313 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:41,520 Speaker 2: not so much the caliber of player he is, but 314 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 2: the kind of player he is. Questions about injury. You know, 315 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 2: this is sort of a vindicating day for the Cincinnati Bengals. 316 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe things change and it's no longer a 317 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 2: vindicating day. Kind of feels like it is, though. Jim 318 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:59,240 Speaker 2: in Centerville, you're on ESPN fifteen thirty. Jim, good afternoon. 319 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: How are you. 320 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 4: I'm good, Mo, Thanks for taking my call. I agree 321 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:07,320 Speaker 4: with you on the Trey Hendricks sing same thing. I 322 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 4: think he's just a he's a passer ash specialist. 323 00:19:11,200 --> 00:19:11,560 Speaker 5: He's not. 324 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 4: He's not Miles, you know, Garrett or whoever. But anyways, 325 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: I I called because I have a couple of theories 326 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 4: and company you think I'm wrong here when it comes 327 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 4: to Hunter Green. I don't think he particularly wants to 328 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 4: play baseball. I mean, if you think about it, he 329 00:19:29,880 --> 00:19:32,960 Speaker 4: had this elbow thing nagging him the end of last year. 330 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,679 Speaker 4: You're right, he should have had it scoped out in 331 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 4: the off season. But then there goes all his off 332 00:19:40,080 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 4: season plans. You know, he's not going to be able 333 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 4: to jet ski or do all of the you know, 334 00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 4: fun things that he wants to do this off season 335 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,280 Speaker 4: if he if he's got to you know, rehab that 336 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 4: so why not wait till the season starts well and 337 00:19:53,640 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 4: then get the get the surgery. 338 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 2: Then Yeah, I I hate to say this, but I 339 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,720 Speaker 2: feel like when things get weird, it feels like you 340 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:05,840 Speaker 2: expand the possibilities of possible scenarios or outcomes. And I 341 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,280 Speaker 2: intensely hate to conclude that someone doesn't love their sport 342 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: or their craft. But when you've been accused of slow 343 00:20:17,119 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 2: playing an injury, as Hunter Green was behind the scenes 344 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: last year and there's something like this, you could understand 345 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:26,840 Speaker 2: why somebody would at least wonder, is this guy is 346 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,359 Speaker 2: all in on his career as you would like for 347 00:20:30,440 --> 00:20:31,879 Speaker 2: him to be, and as the Reds need him to be. 348 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,200 Speaker 2: I don't love going there, but I can understand why 349 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 2: one would. 350 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're calling him a bargain with with what we've 351 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 4: signed him for. He's you know, yeah, he plays ten 352 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 4: games a year. He pitches you know, hardly at all, 353 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,520 Speaker 4: I would say, And you know, I think it was 354 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 4: Nick Crawl that said, you know, hey, we're going to 355 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,320 Speaker 4: look at this as a as a trade deadline edition. 356 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,640 Speaker 4: Oh to me, you should be looking at it as 357 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 4: a trade deadline opportunity to trade him and get rid 358 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 4: of it. Yeah, that's that's how Nick call looks. 359 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 2: At Well, you know, trust me, one of my favorite 360 00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:07,680 Speaker 2: tropes is hurt guy coming back is going to be 361 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 2: our best trade deadline acquisition. That that was faulty with 362 00:21:11,119 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 2: Hunter Green himself three years ago. I would find a 363 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: tremendous amount of fault in that now. But like, there 364 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: are gonna be folks who say, like yourself, like we'll 365 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 2: trade him, And the thing is, like, is market value 366 00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 2: he had an injury last year. He's never gone through 367 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: a full big league season healthy. Yes, financially he is 368 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: a bargain. But like, if you're gonna trade for Hunter Green, 369 00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to see him pitch, You're gonna want 370 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 2: to see what he can do. You're gonna know how 371 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 2: healthy he is. And unfortunately, right now, the questions outweigh 372 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: the answers. Now, a team might say, look, he's tremendously talented, 373 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: he's cost control. You can get him for the next 374 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,919 Speaker 2: three years. You don't owe him anymore than he's actually owed, 375 00:21:47,040 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 2: Like there is something to that, But I don't know, 376 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 2: Like there's there's a little bit of damage goods to 377 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 2: Hunter Green, which I would imagine would hurt his trade value. 378 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,480 Speaker 2: And I don't want to just give him away. I 379 00:21:57,520 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: want to get something back in return, and I feel 380 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,040 Speaker 2: like the ability to do that is compromised with all 381 00:22:02,160 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 2: the health issues and all the weirdness that have sort 382 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,640 Speaker 2: of dominated the hunder Green conversation for a while. 383 00:22:07,680 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 4: Now, Well, I don't think he's a bargain. I think 384 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,679 Speaker 4: he's fleecing us, and for a team that doesn't have 385 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 4: money to waste, Unfortunately, we may have put, are you 386 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,960 Speaker 4: know all of our chips on the wrong on the 387 00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,120 Speaker 4: wrong pony there? I mean, I don't know. I think 388 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 4: that I think that he doesn't. If he cared that 389 00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 4: much and we've all had nagging injuries, he cared that much, 390 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 4: he knew, he knew that his elbow is going to 391 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 4: start flaming up again when he started pitching. He throws 392 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 4: on her mile an hour. So if there's clean up 393 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 4: that needs to be done, get it done in the 394 00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 4: off season. 395 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, that's that's I appreciate, Jim, thanks for 396 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: the phone call. Man. I appreciate and love the fact 397 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 2: that the dude pitched through the pain in September and 398 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 2: often pitched well. They don't get to the postseason without him. 399 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,640 Speaker 2: And I do you usually side with hey athlete knows 400 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,359 Speaker 2: his body. I just I don't understand Number one. I 401 00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:07,640 Speaker 2: don't understand why there seems to be a communication gap 402 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: between Hunter and the team, which kind of revealed itself 403 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:15,560 Speaker 2: last year. Number two, and we're gonna get our doctor 404 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:18,439 Speaker 2: from Orthosincion with this tomorrow and he may shed some 405 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 2: light on this. I don't understand how you don't opt 406 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: for the procedure when the season ended last year, or 407 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 2: even like not have him pitch in spring training games 408 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 2: because his arm was sore right before spring training started. 409 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: It just I don't know, man, I don't love arriving 410 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 2: at the conclusion that the guy doesn't love his sport. 411 00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,239 Speaker 2: I think that's a little bit much. But when you 412 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 2: combine the belief that was out there among people in 413 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:47,760 Speaker 2: the organization that he slowed played his return from injury 414 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,639 Speaker 2: last year, and then you have this year where it 415 00:23:50,840 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 2: just you could wonder, like, did he just not want 416 00:23:54,280 --> 00:23:56,840 Speaker 2: to have the surgery during the offseason because I hate 417 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 2: to say that he wanted to go jet skiing or something. 418 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: There's just there, there's NonStop weirdness, and it feels like 419 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,160 Speaker 2: there's a disconnect. There's also a lot of injuries. Our 420 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 2: sports legal expert to attorney Stewart W. 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We are a few minutes 436 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 2: late because well, I don't know how to read a clock. 437 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 2: On Tuesdays at this time, we talked sports and the 438 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:09,600 Speaker 2: law with our legal expert, attorney Stuart W. Penrose from 439 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:13,679 Speaker 2: the Manila Law Group. He is always insightful, always teaches 440 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 2: us something and I've got questions. Maybe you do as well. 441 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,199 Speaker 2: It's awesome to have you, Stewart as always. How are you? 442 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 5: I'm doing great, Mom? How about yourself? 443 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,720 Speaker 2: I'm doing well. I want to start with this big 444 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,399 Speaker 2: meeting at the White House last week, which was I 445 00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: guess it was done in order to find solutions on 446 00:25:30,359 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: how to fix college sports and the president of the 447 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 2: United States says he's going to issue an executive order 448 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:39,639 Speaker 2: that fixes college sports and addresses things like collectives and 449 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:43,960 Speaker 2: NIL and player movement and player compensation, all of this stuff. 450 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 2: He also acknowledged that it might not stand a legal challenge. 451 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 2: So that's what I want to ask you. If there's 452 00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:54,320 Speaker 2: a plan at the executive level of the federal government 453 00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: to fix college sports, what are the legal hurdles that 454 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: such a plan would fax here. 455 00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 5: Well, it's similar to what we've been talking about all 456 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,720 Speaker 5: these links is anti trust law and all the different 457 00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:09,280 Speaker 5: state laws that you know that govern NIL in each state, 458 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 5: and it's like they're trying to coach a thousand teams 459 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 5: at once. I can understand his perspective and what he's 460 00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 5: trying to do, but to really get teeth in it, 461 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 5: it would need some sort of congressional approval Congress for 462 00:26:22,160 --> 00:26:25,040 Speaker 5: me to come to come together. Just a president's executive 463 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,320 Speaker 5: order alone doesn't create it an anti trust exemption. And 464 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 5: it seems that that's what his angle is ultimately here, 465 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 5: is to try to get some anti trust exemption to 466 00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 5: protect the NT double A, allow the NT double A 467 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000 Speaker 5: to have a better framework to keep a hold, and 468 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 5: to try to bring us out of a wild West era. 469 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,280 Speaker 5: But without congressional approval, it can be very difficult. 470 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 6: MO. 471 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 5: And like I said, anti trust exemptions or anti trust 472 00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: laws and state laws really stand in the way. And 473 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,679 Speaker 5: you know, President Trump certainly seem very cognizant of that. 474 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 2: Speaking of anti trust, which is a topic that, as 475 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:59,879 Speaker 2: you mentioned, you and I talk about a lot. So 476 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,320 Speaker 2: the Department of Justice and Live Nation have settled an 477 00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:06,320 Speaker 2: anti trust dispute that I think has had a lot 478 00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 2: more to do with concert tickets, the prices of them, 479 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:12,159 Speaker 2: the accessibility of them, than anything else. What can the 480 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 2: impact be on sports fans of this case? 481 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 5: Sure? Well, first off, hold the phone on that. They 482 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:21,399 Speaker 5: have an agreement in place, but the judge has to 483 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,679 Speaker 5: sid the court has to sign off on it. And 484 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 5: apparently a lot of the states that are involved aren't 485 00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 5: immediately signing onto this right now, so it's still fluid. 486 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 5: But if the settlement goes through, what it can do 487 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:37,080 Speaker 5: is open up the markets for college sports fans. Live 488 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,919 Speaker 5: Nation we think of Live Nation, we think of live music, 489 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,399 Speaker 5: but they own Ticketmaster and Ticketmasters you know obviously is 490 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,320 Speaker 5: the biggest platform out there for sports as well. So 491 00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 5: if this goes through. It could bring more you know, 492 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 5: more platforms into the market to sell to sports fans, uh, 493 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 5: and more options for schools and teams to partner with 494 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:02,080 Speaker 5: and and not be so exclusive to Ticketmaster and Lotal 495 00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,560 Speaker 5: help with steams as well too. It creates more competition 496 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 5: to be more competitive on fees. You know, you go, 497 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 5: you buy one hundred dollars ticket to a football game 498 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,560 Speaker 5: and you get twenty five dollars and fees on that. 499 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 5: Nobody likes that, so hopefully this will hopefully this will 500 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:15,160 Speaker 5: help with that. 501 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 2: What could be a reason why a judge would not 502 00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: sign off. 503 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 5: On this, Well, we have to see how the framework 504 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,160 Speaker 5: goes and if all the parties getting get an agreement 505 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 5: here all the states and whatnot. But they need their 506 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,560 Speaker 5: time to weigh in. He's going to factor in and 507 00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:33,600 Speaker 5: all that. He was upset because the trial had already 508 00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 5: started and they had apparently had a framework in place 509 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: over the weekend and didn't notify him until Sunday night, 510 00:28:40,680 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 5: So he wasn't very happy about that. Does that mean 511 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 5: it's going to make the settlement? No, But you know, 512 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:47,440 Speaker 5: you never want to tick off a judge. 513 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, number one. Yeah, rule number one for lawyers and 514 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 2: common folk alike. Attorney Steward W. Penrose from the Manila 515 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 2: Law Group joins us to talk about the sports, about 516 00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: sports and the law on Tuesdays. So we have one 517 00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,840 Speaker 2: of the fixers in this large betting scheme that you 518 00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: had like twenty six people who have been charged in 519 00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: wire fraud and bribery chargers and the genesis of this 520 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:16,560 Speaker 2: is huge bets on rig college basketball games. This guy, 521 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: Jalen Smith, has appeared in federal court. He has plugged 522 00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 2: guilty and uh so this is like the first domino 523 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,239 Speaker 2: to fall. I guess my question is what does his 524 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: outcome mean for the other people, specifically the college basketball 525 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:31,240 Speaker 2: players involved. 526 00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 5: Well, like you said, it's the first domino to fall. 527 00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:38,320 Speaker 5: So certainly the government, through him as has amount and 528 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 5: through other resources as well, has amount of evidence to 529 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: go on here. Clearly he had some level, must have 530 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:47,280 Speaker 5: had some level of cooperation to take a plea this early. 531 00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 5: It will help the dominoes fall, let's put it that way. 532 00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 5: As far as the athletes themselves, you know, we'll have 533 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,200 Speaker 5: to see how that plays out, mo, I mean those 534 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 5: that are implicated, I mean, certainly from an NC double 535 00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 5: A perspective. Yeah, you certainly think that's the end of 536 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 5: their NCAA careers. At a minimum, what they say from 537 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 5: a criminal standpoint remains to be seen based upon their 538 00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 5: level of involvement, what they face. As far as sending 539 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:15,160 Speaker 5: team for those that are involve criminally, you know, time 540 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 5: will tell. You know, a judge is going to be 541 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 5: more likely to give some leeway to a college kid 542 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 5: than he has a bigger man up on the totem pole. 543 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,400 Speaker 5: In such a scheme, the players are, the players are 544 00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 5: almost are essentially the ponds and something like this. 545 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:35,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I think that's that's obviously well put. Attorney 546 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,160 Speaker 2: Stuart W. Penrose from the Manila Lag Group. Awesome stuff 547 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 2: as always, man, thank you so much, Thank you both. 548 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 2: He's the absolute best. He's our legal expert from the 549 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 2: Manila LAG Group. Stuart W. Penrose joins us every single Tuesday. 550 00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:53,480 Speaker 2: All right. The Bearcats are up by ten, eleven, seventeen 551 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 2: to go, first round game and the Big twelve tournament. 552 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 2: Sports headlines are a service Kelsey Chevrolet Home of lifetime 553 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:04,040 Speaker 2: power train protection guarantee credit approval from their family, two 554 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: yours for life, kelseyshev dot com. It's now forty eight 555 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 2: to thirty nine in favor of Cincinnati eleven and change 556 00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 2: to go winner will take on UCF tomorrow. Earlier today 557 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: in the Big Twelve Tournament, Arizona State knocked off Baylor. 558 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: For what it's worth, Pittsburgh beat SMU at the Buzzer 559 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:24,240 Speaker 2: in the ACC Tournament. SMU one of those teams that 560 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 2: needed to win this week. We'll see how that may 561 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: or may not impact the Bearcats. Quiet day so far 562 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 2: for the Bengals in free agency. We'll see if that 563 00:31:33,440 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 2: changes between now and six o'clock. Reds are taken on 564 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 2: the Colorado Rockies today, on the day that we found 565 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 2: out Hunter Green's gonna have surgery to remove chips from 566 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,240 Speaker 2: his elbow. He is now expected to make his season 567 00:31:45,320 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 2: debut in July. Good news is it's not Tommy John surgery. 568 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 2: It's not regarded as season ending surgery. Bad news is 569 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 2: still gonna miss roughly half the season. Reds are playing 570 00:31:55,960 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 2: the Rockies today. PJ Higgins with a home run. Cincinnati 571 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: on top road team today three to nothing. Brandon Williamson 572 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 2: on the hill for Cincinnati, pitched a scoreless first inning 573 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: for the Red Legs. By the way college basketball Horizon 574 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 2: Lea tournament title game tonight Wright State. After beating NKU 575 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 2: last night, it takes on Detroit Mercy for the conference championship, 576 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,920 Speaker 2: and the Columbus Blue Jackets play on the road tonight 577 00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:24,520 Speaker 2: against Tampa Bay. You are caught up twelve point game 578 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 2: right now. Cincinnati leads Utah fifty one to thirty nine. 579 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 2: We'll jump back into what the Bengals did and still 580 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: need to do. Coming up on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati 581 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: Sports Station. 582 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty Traffic. 583 00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 6: Traffic Center. 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This 591 00:33:11,160 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 6: report is sponsored by Bradford. 592 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 2: Lost two consecutive games, Cats up twelve seven forty four 593 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:22,520 Speaker 2: to go fifty nine to forty seven. Cincinnati Cincinnati has 594 00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 2: not been as sloppy as they were against TCU. The 595 00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:28,720 Speaker 2: Bearcats only have six turnovers so far, two in the 596 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 2: second half. You see his shooting sixty three percent here 597 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 2: in the second half. And they have been uh, they've 598 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,480 Speaker 2: been much much more efficient today than they were on 599 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 2: a Saturday, four of seven from behind the arc in 600 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 2: the second half, forty two point one percent four the game. 601 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 2: It would be delightful though, if they can make a 602 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 2: free throw uh three for ten from the stripe today, 603 00:33:56,560 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 2: which has helped keep Utah at least kigh in it. 604 00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 2: It's fifty nine to forty seven in favor of the Bearcats. 605 00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:11,200 Speaker 2: Winner will take on UCF tomorrow five point three seven 606 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: four nine, fifteen thirty. We'll try to grab some more 607 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 2: phone calls coming up in the next hour. It's been 608 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 2: a little bit more than twenty four hours since we 609 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:23,919 Speaker 2: found out that the Bengals have signed or are going 610 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 2: to sign. I guess I should say two pretty good 611 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:28,319 Speaker 2: free agents. One of them is Brian Cook. And like 612 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 2: the Brian Cook thing. Yes, I'm a Bearcat fan. Maybe 613 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 2: you're you're a huge Bearcat fan. He's a mount healthy guy. 614 00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 2: He's a UC guy like that. Stuff is fun. That's 615 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 2: not why any of us wanted Brian Cook. Wanted Brian 616 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 2: Cook because he could tackle. Put it as simple as that. 617 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 2: Wanted Brian Cook because he's good at the one thing 618 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 2: that the guy he's replacing was bad at. Like when 619 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 2: I think when most of us think of Gino Stone 620 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:07,080 Speaker 2: more than anything, it's bad tackling, poor angles. Brian Cook's 621 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:11,880 Speaker 2: game represents the antithesis of that. That's a good signing. 622 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 2: Then there's boy A Mafe. I'm not the only person 623 00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:21,120 Speaker 2: to say this kind of fits that. Trey Hendrickson twenty 624 00:35:21,239 --> 00:35:25,480 Speaker 2: twenty one profile not a star, certainly not a star 625 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 2: in Seattle's defense log jam behind some guys. Scheme change 626 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 2: this year maybe didn't necessarily play to his strengths twenty 627 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,080 Speaker 2: seven years old, tons of upside pass rush is king. 628 00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:44,879 Speaker 2: There's lots to like about these two moves. Number one 629 00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:50,360 Speaker 2: is they did some very unbengalsy sort of stuff like 630 00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 2: you could hear it now. As it relates to safety, well, 631 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 2: it's safety well positional value. It's not a premium position. 632 00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 2: So we're only going to go so far to sign 633 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 2: a safety. We're not going to pay Brian Cook the 634 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:08,360 Speaker 2: kind of money that he's looking for instead, it was, essentially, 635 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:10,320 Speaker 2: as Danner said in the first hour of the show, 636 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,640 Speaker 2: an acknowledgment that they got it wrong with Jesse Bates, 637 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 2: and so now we're gonna pay for a safety who 638 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:20,920 Speaker 2: can do what we haven't gotten any safety to do 639 00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: since Jesse Bates left. Need a guy who can prevent 640 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: explosive plays from happening. Brian Cook can help doing that. 641 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 2: By the way, I also think it's not insignificant they 642 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:34,799 Speaker 2: signed two Super Bowl champions like that. It's been a 643 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,239 Speaker 2: while since this team won. Can hurt to have a 644 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 2: couple of guys who have rings that ain't bad, but 645 00:36:41,680 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 2: they also like you could also hear it as it 646 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: relates to edge rusher. Well, you know, Miles Murphy came 647 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:51,080 Speaker 2: on toward the end of last season, and we did 648 00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,560 Speaker 2: invest a first round pick in Shamar Stewart and we 649 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,040 Speaker 2: still do like him despite the fact that his rookie 650 00:36:56,120 --> 00:37:00,319 Speaker 2: year went sideways. And they still may but if those 651 00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:04,800 Speaker 2: things did not preclude them from attacking edge rusher early 652 00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:08,680 Speaker 2: in free agency, Like, look, man, you can beat up 653 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 2: on Duke Tobin for a lot of things. God knows 654 00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:12,520 Speaker 2: I have. There have been a lot of reasons to 655 00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:15,840 Speaker 2: be frustrated. But what they said they were going to 656 00:37:15,880 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 2: do they did. Now your eyes turned to what's next, 657 00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 2: and they need a linebacker. Leoshanal is still out there. 658 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 2: I think he has been the guy that most fans 659 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 2: have kind of pined for. Understanding what they're looking for. 660 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,360 Speaker 2: Somebody who's versatile, Somebody who can get after the passer, 661 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:38,000 Speaker 2: Somebody who's good at impacting the ron d somebody who's 662 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,279 Speaker 2: good at spying the quarterback. Like just versatile linebacker can 663 00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: do a little bit of everything. Swiss army knife, so 664 00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: to speak. Kay Nellis is still out there. I know. 665 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 2: When Danna and I, along with Jay Morrison did our 666 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 2: mock draft of free agents, we talked extensively about him 667 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:59,200 Speaker 2: one of the better linebackers at getting after the quarterback. 668 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 2: The question is if not either of those guys, then 669 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 2: what do you do at that position? But if over 670 00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560 Speaker 2: the next I don't know a few hours and I 671 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 2: have not seen as I've been in here doing the 672 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: show and paying attention to the Bearcat game, I haven't 673 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 2: seen if either guy is signed with a team yet 674 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,680 Speaker 2: or agree to terms with the team yet. But if 675 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:26,160 Speaker 2: you could get through today having addressed edge safety and linebacker. 676 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,480 Speaker 2: Oh boy, Like that's a really really good start. The 677 00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:35,120 Speaker 2: entirety of the offseason involves the draft, but those three 678 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: plus the Riisner signing, which was a layoup, like it's 679 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 2: it's a good start. And as much as anything on 680 00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 2: top of the caliber of players they have acquired, there's 681 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:49,239 Speaker 2: just been something unbangally about how they've gone about this, 682 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 2: and that is as encouraging as anything. Sixty one fifty two, 683 00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,600 Speaker 2: we'll talk with Charlie Goldsmith about Hunter Green and more. 684 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,560 Speaker 2: Next