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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I was like, your show's done, you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, she loves this place, so she hangs around a

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Speaker 1: Just a case, just a case that I came in.

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Speaker 2: As soon as our shifts are done, we are sprinting

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Speaker 3: I'm just saying, you know, and you didn't know I

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Speaker 1: I know what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: You do have a little more athletic ability than I

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Speaker 2: have given you credit for.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: I will. That's up to that.

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Speaker 1: Let's save that grant.

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Speaker 3: I might need this as my ring tone down the road,

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Speaker 3: just you know, a rainy day. Just listen to Dave saying,

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Speaker 3: you know, you do have some more athletic ability that I.

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Speaker 2: Said a little more and I gave you credit for.

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Speaker 3: You know, but I notice you're in a pretty good

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Speaker 1: I imagine that a game. Oh my gosh, what a game.

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Speaker 1: What game? And by the way I.

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Speaker 3: Thought of you will say, I about texted you, but I.

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Speaker 3: You were grousing a bit about Jazz Chisholm not being

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Speaker 2: Right, I mean, how how do you not play that guy?

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Speaker 1: Tremendous?

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Speaker 2: It gets, it gets down. It's a little bit like

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Speaker 2: the NFL at times, I think they get. I think

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Speaker 1: He's a tremendous player.

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Speaker 3: He's been a tremendous player, even with Miami, and.

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Speaker 3: But it was nice to see not only him but

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Speaker 3: is why. And I do like this new setup. We'll

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Speaker 3: There were some games in those one off, yeah, that

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Speaker 3: I mean, you played one hundred and sixty two for

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Speaker 3: this one flipping game. I agree, But now with this

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Speaker 2: From the famous Schlitzler family.

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Speaker 1: I was like, do not speed up that name.

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Speaker 3: I guess Aaron Jones I saw or sorry, Aaron Judge

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Speaker 2: I six. Wait, all these series go the distance except

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Speaker 2: because they're not gonna win it. Okay, who's gonna win it.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the field, Okay, you can take the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: because I hate the Dodgers.

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Speaker 1: I can't stand the Dodgers.

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Speaker 2: Well you don't have you don't have to love them

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Speaker 2: Do you take the Dodgers?

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Speaker 1: Yesterday I did get a chance to.

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Speaker 3: Ask you about the Shador Sanders mining thing.

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Speaker 1: And that's the end of that.

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Speaker 2: They don't want to have anything that they have to

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Speaker 5: better every day, and you know throughout the course of

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Speaker 5: the season, you know, you got to you got to

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Speaker 5: be able to get better each week. And you know,

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Speaker 5: coming off a Monday night game, you know, we have

444
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Speaker 5: a shorter week, and so you've got to be a

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Speaker 5: little bit, you know, a little bit more dialed in

446
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Speaker 5: and what you're doing and what you're trying to accomplish.

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Speaker 5: So I like where we're at, and you know, we

448
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Speaker 5: got the guys. You know, like a lot of guys

449
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Speaker 5: have said like, we have the guys in the room

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Speaker 5: to do it. And on the defensive side, you know

451
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Speaker 5: a lot of guys who were just gritty and go

452
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Speaker 5: out and do their job and are laser focused.

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Speaker 2: Riley, last question for me. You've got the same defensive

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Speaker 2: coordinator from last year, advanced Joe so Finn just maybe

455
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Speaker 2: a thing or two that that feels different to you

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Speaker 2: about this year's edition of the Broncos defense after after

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Speaker 2: four games as compared to maybe some of the play

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Speaker 2: from last year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think the biggest thing for us,

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Speaker 5: you know, and I'll speak for the back end, is

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Speaker 5: our communication has been a lot better since last year.

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Speaker 5: You know, I think a lot of guys trust each other,

463
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Speaker 5: you know, obviously, you know we've had we had VJ

464
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Speaker 5: last year, we have them. This year. We've really dialed

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Speaker 5: into things that we need to dial in that we were,

466
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Speaker 5: you know, messing up maybe last year. We've perfected and

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Speaker 5: continue to perfect some of the things we still need

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Speaker 5: to work on. But I think it's a big trust

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Speaker 5: factor and just the guys that we have and we

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Speaker 5: all trust each other, and it makes us play that

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Speaker 5: much faster.

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Speaker 1: Very quickly.

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go, Susie Warred and our sideline

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Speaker 3: reporter for the Broncos broadcast, interviewed you about your coffee choice,

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Speaker 3: and I just wanted to tell you a tip of

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Speaker 3: the cap, sir. Pumpkins spice latte is a fantastic choice,

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Speaker 3: and I fully, I fully support that.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it. Thank you. I'm not even gonna I'm

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Speaker 2: not even gonna jump in and save this.

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Speaker 1: Riley Listen.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate the time.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: We'll look forward to calling the game in Philly.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you, guys.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate it. That is a Riley Voss.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's fantastic. I think it was unprophets that.

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Speaker 2: You're going to ask him if these weren't flanneled today?

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Speaker 3: Well, I almost said, but I know he's coming off

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Speaker 3: the practice field, so that would be a no. But

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Speaker 3: I could also follow that up with like, in your

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Speaker 3: free time.

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Speaker 2: Do you wear flannel?

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Speaker 3: Is that? How?

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Speaker 2: How would you end the sentence in your free time?

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Speaker 3: I would say I would say what kind of but

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Speaker 3: it would sound kind of creepy. If I'm like, what

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Speaker 3: kind of clothes do you wear? It wouldn't sound kind

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Speaker 3: of creepy.

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Speaker 2: It would sound totally creepy, like like totally creepy. Last

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Speaker 2: time Riley Ever came on the show, it was.

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Speaker 3: Like, hey man, you kind of got right out on

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Speaker 3: a Saturday. Would you have got nothing to do?

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Speaker 1: What do you like to wear? Summer fall?

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what do you like to wear? All right,

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Speaker 3: we'll come back and react to that coming up next.

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Speaker 3: You were at the game on calling the game right.

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Speaker 2: The hell like I'm sitting in the south stands enjoying

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Speaker 2: a cold one. Although that would not be a bad idea.

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to pause as long as I did there.

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Speaker 3: What I was trying to say is you I remember

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Speaker 3: you saying on Monday that the crowd had a little

513
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Speaker 3: bit of a of a nervousness after that first drive,

514
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Speaker 3: and in our first drive they're going right after Riley

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Speaker 3: Moss or T Higgins. Riley Moss, I mean, this is

516
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Speaker 3: exactly what we saw Justice last year. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 3: he's in phase. It's not like he's like he's really

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Speaker 3: having a bad game early on.

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Speaker 1: It's just T Higgins is that dude?

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's just that big receiver that bought is

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Speaker 3: you So it felt like from what you were saying,

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Speaker 3: is that early on in the game, there was a

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Speaker 3: little bit of a nervousness, like here we go again.

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Speaker 2: The old Powter hole. Yeah, the pooter holes were tight

525
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Speaker 2: at in power field of Male High and you know,

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Speaker 2: you know they were again. I think my suggestion for

527
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Speaker 2: Bronco's country would be take a deep breath when it

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Speaker 2: comes to Riley Moss. Every corner in the league is

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Speaker 2: going to get beat from time to time, even the

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Speaker 2: really good ones to the great ones, to the elite ones.

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Speaker 2: It's just gonna happen. Riley Moss is a good player.

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Speaker 2: He's he plays opposite of pats Er Tan and so

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Speaker 2: a he gets more work, he gets more business. As

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Speaker 2: we used to say, and B he's critiqued, you know,

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Speaker 2: to to the standard that pats Er Tan sets and

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Speaker 2: that's that's an elite corner over there. I have no

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Speaker 2: problem with Moss. I mean, how many catches t Higgins

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Speaker 2: finished with three? Yeah, I mean so yeah, there's not

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Speaker 2: I mean so much of playing corner in this league

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Speaker 2: or anywhere else is dependent upon how much pressure is

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Speaker 2: generated on the quarterback, if the quarterback in the NFL,

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Speaker 2: if the quarterback has a chance to stand back there right,

543
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Speaker 2: which Jake Brownie did not and just sort of survey

544
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Speaker 2: the house and see what coverage you're in, and then

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Speaker 2: I know where I go, where's my best matchup? Corners

546
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Speaker 2: are going to get beat a lot, a lot. So

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm I'm cool with Moss. I think I think

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Speaker 2: he's going to be fine. I also think the fact

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Speaker 2: that he's a white dude. And I've said this before,

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Speaker 2: you know you, I mean, it's just it's it's you

551
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Speaker 2: just look out there and say, Okay, is he is

552
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Speaker 2: he capable of doing this? And I can tell you

553
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Speaker 2: from a physical standpoint, he absolutely is. He can run,

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Speaker 2: he's long, he's physical, he's a he's a gifted corner

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Speaker 2: in this league.

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Speaker 3: A little tough matchup on the docket this week. What

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Speaker 3: do you think about the A J. Brown stuff, like

558
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Speaker 3: the tweeting out the Bible Verse about not I feel

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Speaker 3: appreciated more like I can go and go find the

560
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Speaker 3: quick quick line. But he basically is letting him know

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Speaker 3: very publicly that he's not not enjoying his role in

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Speaker 3: the offense.

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Speaker 1: He had two catches for seven yards.

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Speaker 2: Of targets, he had eight or nine targets, Yeah, he had,

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Speaker 2: you know, nine targets ninets. AJ Brown, I think historically

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Speaker 2: even when he was with Tennessee. I mean A J.

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Speaker 2: Brown is one of the most gifted physically physically gifted

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Speaker 2: I should say, wide receivers in the league, just in

569
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Speaker 2: terms of his strength, his size, his power, any speed. Now,

570
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Speaker 2: what he's not is he's not like he's not one

571
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Speaker 2: of the top five, six, seven route runners in the game.

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Speaker 2: And there's plenty of guys that are really good players

573
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Speaker 2: that you could say the same thing about over the years.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy he can run past you, he can

575
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Speaker 2: body you out of the way with his power. But

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Speaker 2: I haven't been overly impressed really with how Philadelphia has

577
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Speaker 2: just attacked the four teams that they've played so far.

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Speaker 2: In the passing game, it's a new offensive coordinator, and

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Speaker 2: I think from Jalen Hurts standpoint, I think one thing's

580
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Speaker 2: pretty apparent. He's not going to put that ball in

581
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Speaker 2: Harm's way. You're not going to see him throw like

582
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Speaker 2: a ball on a post route with a single safety

583
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Speaker 2: sitting in the middle of the field. And we've seen

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Speaker 2: some NFL guys do that. Jalen is not going to

585
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Speaker 2: do that. So I like the Broncos matchup, I really do.

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Speaker 2: I think the game will come down to can they

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Speaker 2: stop the running game both with Saquon and Hurts. Is

588
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Speaker 2: the Broncos box the front seven up to what's coming

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Speaker 2: on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a few times watching this Tampa Bay game,

591
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Speaker 3: there's a few times where the edge got a little

592
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Speaker 3: too upfield on it and Jalen's just gonna take off.

593
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Speaker 3: I mean he's gonna once he sees that small little opening.

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Speaker 3: He's smart, he's very smart, and again he's he's not

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Speaker 3: going to force it. And what he does is, all

596
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Speaker 3: of a sudden, he's going to gash you for thirty

597
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Speaker 3: plus yards on a run because you got to feel

598
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Speaker 3: too much so I think it's especially the I think

599
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Speaker 3: especially our edge rush, and they've done a really good

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Speaker 3: job of this in general when they're facing mobile quarterbacks.

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Speaker 3: But Jonathan Cooper and Nick Bonito, and I guess when

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Speaker 3: you talk about Jonah Ellis also getting in there, they've

603
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Speaker 3: just got to be really careful about about letting those

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Speaker 3: offensive tackles direct to them beyond the quarterback, because if

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Speaker 3: they end up meeting in the middle like they did

606
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Speaker 3: last week, Jalen Hurts are gonna be standing there, He's

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Speaker 3: gonna be downfield.

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Speaker 5: Run. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think this game honestly boils down to which offense

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Speaker 2: can make the other team play a little bit from behind, right,

611
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Speaker 2: And I think it's important. The Eagles offense has been

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Speaker 2: great when they get to the red zone, right, they

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Speaker 2: are absolutely perfect. They're number one offensive team in the

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Speaker 2: red zone. Every time in four games they've been in

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Speaker 2: the red zone, they've scored a touchdown. Broncos have been

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Speaker 2: really good. They're a top five team in the red zone,

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Speaker 2: and the Eagles are a top five team defensively. So

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Speaker 2: when you get to the red zone, they're making you

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Speaker 2: settle for field goals and not touchdowns. Those two things

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Speaker 2: in its most simplistic sort of analysis. I think we'll

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Speaker 2: decide the game if the Broncos get down there. When

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Speaker 2: they get down there, they've got to find ways to

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Speaker 2: score touchdowns, right. And conversely, maybe the Broncos can keep

624
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Speaker 2: the Eagles. Nobody else has been able to can keep

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Speaker 2: them when they breach the twenty. Can you keep the

626
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Speaker 2: Eagles out of the end zone and make them kick?

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Speaker 2: I think it's a close game. I give Denver every

628
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Speaker 2: opportunity to go back and win this game, but they're

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Speaker 2: gonna have to not beat themselves. And almost every team

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Speaker 2: the Eagles have played so far, and I can't tell

631
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Speaker 2: if it's because they grind them down, because they do

632
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Speaker 2: grind on you, oh yeah, But every single team the

633
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Speaker 2: Eagles have beaten in four games, they have contributed to

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Speaker 2: their demise and the Broncos cannot do that otherwise they'll

635
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Speaker 2: be victim number five.

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Speaker 3: And this is something we talked about during the break,

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Speaker 3: is just that includes even special teams.

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Speaker 1: Of course, the Eagles have been feasting on teams.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, we spent a lot of time on offense and defense,

640
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Speaker 3: but special teams. They won a game against the Rams

641
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Speaker 3: because of a block field goal they had a block

642
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,120
Speaker 3: play return for a touchdown this last week against up

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Speaker 3: A Baker.

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Speaker 2: I mean the Rams in the late third quarter in

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Speaker 2: Philadelphia are ahead twenty six to seven.

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Speaker 3: Right, and lose the game. And they lose that game. Yep,

647
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Speaker 3: But that's who the Eagles are. This ever chance to

648
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Speaker 3: win one thousand dollars coming up the next five minutes

649
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Speaker 3: thanks to Mercedes Bens of Littleton.

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Speaker 1: Mercedes of Littleton.

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Speaker 3: We got a Betty Fowler and studio coming up here

652
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Speaker 3: at the top of the hour, four o'clock and he's

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Speaker 3: gonna join me all the.

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Speaker 1: Way till six. We have Broncos Country tonight this evening

655
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Speaker 1: at six o'clock.

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Speaker 3: Ben and Nick will be I actually think Nick's off,

657
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Speaker 3: but I think Ben is gonna be here, and that's

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Speaker 3: gonna be fun.

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Speaker 1: Looking forward to hearing what he had to say. It's

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Speaker 1: been cool having them breaking down the Broncos this week.

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Speaker 1: I'm with Dave.

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Speaker 3: I think there's some there's some optimism here. Had fun

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Speaker 3: talking about that with Rick. But but Rick and I

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Speaker 3: naturally go optimistic on almost every game. I remember, even

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Speaker 3: a couple of years ago, talking myself into the Broncos

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Speaker 3: beating the Dolphins before they hung seventy on them, So

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's one of those, like any given

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Speaker 3: Sunday kind of conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I do think there's a little bit more there.

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Speaker 3: The Eagles seem like they are, how should I say it,

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Speaker 3: They're kind of due for a bit of a dud game.

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Speaker 1: They've been surviving on the skin in their teeth.

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Speaker 3: Now. These are similar conversations that we had last year

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Speaker 3: about the Kansas City Chiefs and some of our discussions

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Speaker 3: about boy.

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Speaker 1: They can't keep getting away with this.

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Speaker 3: As you would hear in Breaking Bad, I feel the

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Speaker 3: same way about the Eagles, even winning twenty of their

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Speaker 3: last twenty one Super Bowl champs, they do find ways

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Speaker 3: to win games.

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Speaker 1: But I think more than anything.

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Speaker 3: Just like we talked about with the Chiefs, teams find

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Speaker 3: ways to lose just as much as the Eagles find

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Speaker 3: ways to win.

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Speaker 1: Getting a blocked punt.

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Speaker 3: You know Tampa Bay who did battle back in that

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Speaker 3: game and got it within one score there in the

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Speaker 3: fourth quarter. You have a blocked punt early on, and

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Speaker 3: you put yourself almost in an immediately disadvantage position and

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Speaker 3: it's seven nothing. Go ahead and sit down, Benny, and

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Speaker 3: then it's seven nothing right away and then, of course

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Speaker 3: the Eagles offense once they take the field, Jalen Hurts

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Speaker 3: gets a big explosive play, and then it's fourteen nothing

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Speaker 3: and you're already kind of in trouble. And this is

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Speaker 3: the kind of team that's the worst kind of team

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Speaker 3: to be down by a couple of scores. Benny Fowler

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Speaker 3: slide in here with his Michigan State shirt that's not

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Speaker 3: by accident.

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Speaker 1: Michigan State shirt and pants. Yeah right, good to see you, man.

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Speaker 1: It's good to see you too.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: Everything good, Everything is good, man, Everything is good.

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Speaker 3: I'm doing great. I was just talking about Draymond Green

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Speaker 3: and the.

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame. No, I'm just kidding talking about talking

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Speaker 1: about the Eagles. Would I wouldn't. I wouldn't have that

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Speaker 1: conversation without you here. I would give you a chance

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Speaker 1: to represent your side of things.

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Speaker 3: No, But I was talking about the optimism with this matchup.

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Speaker 3: I think that there's some reasons to be optimistic.

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Speaker 1: You I do. I do.

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Speaker 3: I think you know, the Broncos are two and two

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Speaker 3: right now, but I think if you look at the

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Speaker 3: offense from week two to week three to week four,

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Speaker 3: I think there's been progression three and a half quarters

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Speaker 3: are good.

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Speaker 1: Football against the Colts.

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Speaker 3: Against the Chargers doesn't look so great, but things were

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Speaker 3: open and there were opportunities that were missed. You have

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Speaker 3: a touchdown lead in the fourth quarter one hundred percent,

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Speaker 3: and then you go into Week four. Obviously the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: you know, everybody's gonna talk about Joe Burrow being out,

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Speaker 3: but if he had played, that defense.

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Speaker 1: Still would have been out there. So I thought bo

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Speaker 1: looked better.

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Speaker 3: So I think progressing upwards, Eagles offense doesn't look great

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Speaker 3: at all. I think sae Quon's only average in what

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Speaker 3: three point four to three point five yards per carry?

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Speaker 3: AJ Brown is upset cryptic tweets, I gotta ask you

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Speaker 3: about that.

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Speaker 1: I like Devonte Smith though.

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Speaker 3: I think he has been the the focal point, not

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Speaker 3: focal point, but he's been the most consistent part and

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Speaker 3: pass catcher in their offense. Defense is pretty stout Angio.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's going to keep everything in front of you.

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Speaker 3: He's going to make both think and make make them

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Speaker 3: take the dump the dump offs and that. But I

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Speaker 3: think there's a real opportunity, you know, especially with the defense.

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Speaker 1: This defense matches up well in this I think it's.

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Speaker 3: Gonna be one of those twenty to seventeen, seventeen to

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Speaker 3: fourteen type of games. Really, yeah, okay, I don't think

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Speaker 3: of the I don't think there's a lot of points.

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Speaker 3: You know, I think who does that favor? Because because

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Speaker 3: an interesting discussion on who that would favor. If it's

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Speaker 3: a low scoring game, that might be more of a

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Speaker 3: favor for the Eagles, you think so well?

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Speaker 1: I go back and forth on that.

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Speaker 3: Because the Eagles offense seems like they're a bit of

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Speaker 3: a sleeping giant because we know that they have a

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Speaker 3: lot of firepower.

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Speaker 1: Yep.

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Speaker 3: This isn't one of those where we've seen historically some

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Speaker 3: teams where.

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Speaker 1: They're they're really led by their defense. This is a

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Speaker 1: very good defense.

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Speaker 3: You're absolutely right about that, and they can win games

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Speaker 3: with their defense and their run game. But they've got

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Speaker 3: two once on the outside, and they've got a really

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Speaker 3: good tied end too and Dallas Goddard, so they've got

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Speaker 3: they've got all the makings of being one of the

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Speaker 3: best offenses the League's just not clicking.

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Speaker 1: Dallas gotters got to beat us.

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Speaker 3: To me, if if I think about this game plan

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Speaker 3: and how I would play it, I'd match start hand

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Speaker 3: up with Devonte Smith taking him completely out. Okay, Riley

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Speaker 3: Moss on AJ Brown and safety help over top, and

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Speaker 3: if God re beats us, then you're all right with that.

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Speaker 3: But I don't think he's going to have one hundred

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Speaker 3: and fifty yards receiving. But that's kind of how I.

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Speaker 1: Would play it.

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Speaker 3: I'd played that Belichick style of you double AJ Brown

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Speaker 3: and you put your best corner on the second receiver.

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Speaker 1: You live with that, all right, got Betty Fowler of studio.

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Speaker 3: We'll obviously spend a lot of time talking about the

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Speaker 3: Broncos Eagles. Get your thoughts on AJ Brown, get your

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Speaker 3: thoughts on the offense, what they've done so Farks.

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Speaker 1: I, I haven't had you in studio in a while.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for that, all right, we'll get to that coming

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Speaker 1: up next