1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: So Roger Deadallas speaking right now is he typically does 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,520 Speaker 1: on Mondays of Super Bowl week, and he just announced 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:09,920 Speaker 1: that the UH the League, there will be a Mexico 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: City game in December of twenty twenty six. That marks 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: nine international games next year, nine including one in Paris. 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 2: They said they announced some of this this morning. Actually, 7 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: let me play out. 8 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 3: The day is coming sooner than later that there will 9 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 3: be an international game played every single week of the 10 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: regular season. 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 2: Melbourne, London, Paris, Munich, Rio, Madrid, and Mexico City. 12 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:45,000 Speaker 3: Okay, nothing in London, Oh, nothing in uh. I thought 13 00:00:45,040 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 3: there might be one in Berlin. Not in Berlin, Madrid, 14 00:00:48,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 3: oh that Spain mud Lord Munich. 15 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 2: Yeah I remember because I played leave me down this 16 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 2: wrong my way? What? Yeah? No, but I think they 17 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 2: are are TheInk a Berlin game? Was it this year? 18 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 2: That this year? Right? Do not do the but hey, 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 2: it said the Cleveland Browns was the Noulens Saints in Paris? 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:14,039 Speaker 2: Is that who it is? Yeah? The Saints versus the 21 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:16,920 Speaker 2: Browns are they've already Week seven. I believe they've already 22 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 2: announced it. It's going to be the Saints. And so 23 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 2: somehow it came out that it was going to be 24 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,440 Speaker 2: the Saints versus the Browns. Okay, well I do, but 25 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,119 Speaker 2: the Saints they announced it this morning. But the breaking, 26 00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 2: this is nothing break. This is just what I've seen. 27 00:01:30,640 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 3: No one called me and told me that that's not 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 3: even I bet, I bet the French can't wait to 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 3: see the Browns and the Saints. 30 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: We we it's pretty strong. It's pretty strong. No, I 31 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: do not speak French. 32 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 2: Lady, Thank you, lady. I am old enough for that, 33 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 2: close enough. You know you know what that says? I 34 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 2: do I actually do? Is it? It's do you want 35 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 2: to go home with me? To not just something? Come on, 36 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: I can't remember what. 37 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 3: It's like, take your panties off and pray there's a 38 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 3: baby Jesus or something like that. 39 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:17,120 Speaker 2: I knew. I knew it one time. I can't remember. 40 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 2: I'd like people to know that I did not know that. 41 00:02:19,240 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm saying that I can't have no clue. Yeah, I can't. 42 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:24,200 Speaker 3: I went back and listen to the song once I 43 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,240 Speaker 3: was told that makes sense. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 2: It makes sense. It sounds better coming out of their mouth. 45 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 2: I mean it's it's yeah, it's the name of the artist. No, 46 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 2: so yeah, it says, do you want to sleep with 47 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 2: me tonight. Well, that's sort of what it says. I 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 2: had to look at I had to look it up. 49 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, trying to remember who the original I remember, like 50 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 1: Christina Aguilera, Well that was. 51 00:02:48,760 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 2: A Christina a little campaign that was. That was the 52 00:02:53,400 --> 00:02:56,680 Speaker 2: one I know because the original though I don't know 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 2: the original had to be when original came out in 54 00:02:59,000 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: like the eighties. 55 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: Yep, Lady Marmalade. Yeah, isn't it the Yeah? Is that 56 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: the name of the artist? 57 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 2: I think so. I think you're probably right. I think 58 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 2: that is it. I should I. 59 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:15,519 Speaker 1: Should probably know this, but I think I think you're right. 60 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,360 Speaker 1: I think that's what Anyways, I like. 61 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:20,639 Speaker 3: Why should you probably know this? Well, because it was 62 00:03:20,680 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 3: actually the music and written before you were born. That 63 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:29,360 Speaker 3: it would like me having known what Bing Crosby's first 64 00:03:29,560 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: three songs were, Why would I know. 65 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: That you happen to have just UNLOI to you. Yeah, 66 00:03:37,600 --> 00:03:39,880 Speaker 2: that would be obscure. I think it is, Lady, Lady 67 00:03:39,880 --> 00:03:42,480 Speaker 2: marm it is actually the text line is losing their 68 00:03:42,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 2: mind right now? They haven't. Maybe they like their interpretations. 69 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:50,960 Speaker 2: We had a textassist. 70 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 3: Does anybody remember when the Rams were the favorite against 71 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:53,840 Speaker 3: the Patriots? 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 2: I do. I mean sure, someone just said the French 73 00:03:56,920 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: deserved the Browns versus the science. That's what I said. 74 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 2: I that people. 75 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 3: I agree. Would you won't even be will you be there? 76 00:04:06,200 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: Who knows? Who knows? We'll see you can do a 77 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: report for the show. Yeah, we'll see you out there 78 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,440 Speaker 1: in Paris. I'm sure you've been to Paris? 79 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 2: Right, Wow? No, I know you travel a lot. No. 80 00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:21,239 Speaker 2: Honestly though, we're coming up on me and my wife's 81 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: ten year anniversary, and so we're looking at looking at 82 00:04:25,279 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 2: because and the same actually on our tenure anniversary, we 83 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 2: will be at a wedding in Italy, one of my teammates, 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:36,000 Speaker 2: Dalvin Thomason, and so he's getting married in Italy. So 85 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: like we're like, all right, we got to celebrate our 86 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 2: anniversary before and then we'll just go there for the 87 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: last couple of days and come back. So we're thinking 88 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 2: about what's easiest to get to Italy. What part of 89 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 2: Italy Lake Pomo, so you have to find the Milan, okay, 90 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: And so we were thinking in south you know, if 91 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 2: you go south of France or you do like an 92 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: Abeza type thing around there. A taker and stamped some 93 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 2: grapes she would like you. That's the thing, like if 94 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,880 Speaker 2: we could do that and then actually get to have 95 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: it be the wine that like we may hey. 96 00:05:08,440 --> 00:05:10,559 Speaker 3: Listen, they may let her stomp grapes. They ain't putting 97 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 3: your big ass in the grapes. Well westide sixteen, don't. 98 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 3: That's what I made the toad. 99 00:05:17,080 --> 00:05:22,240 Speaker 2: Yes, they are absolutely straight though, And I would say that, 100 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:25,800 Speaker 2: and it actually looked normal. Could willingly drink wine that 101 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: people's feet have been on. Oh you don't know it. 102 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,680 Speaker 2: You probably have. You don't know it. I guarantee you have, 103 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: probably guarantee you. It was a tone. 104 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: And then you got the wine grapeskin. Yeah, that's okay. 105 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 3: The idea of that the alcohols for kills any sort 106 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:43,960 Speaker 3: of fungus. 107 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 2: That was Yeah. Next time he like tastes anything feels 108 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: anything in wine. Oh my god, total look at as 109 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:51,400 Speaker 2: a probiotic. 110 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: Well we have we have our we have with the 111 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 1: seven Sellers. John a ways, we'll ask him like, okay, 112 00:05:58,680 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: is this foot wine or. 113 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,680 Speaker 2: Foote. I don't drink football. I don't drink a foot 114 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:10,800 Speaker 2: I have to have standards. You understand. 115 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:13,360 Speaker 1: There was going to ask you who hit the break here, 116 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:14,799 Speaker 1: but there was something I was gonna ask you about 117 00:06:15,320 --> 00:06:17,120 Speaker 1: about coaches, because I know we were talking about Jim 118 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,640 Speaker 1: Schwartz earlier and about the Browns, and and he was popular. 119 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 2: He's very popular inside that building. 120 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:26,200 Speaker 1: So I always, from a curiosity standpoint, think about it 121 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: in terms of when an organization knows that a coach 122 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:31,280 Speaker 1: is popular, but they decide to go in a sort 123 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: of different direction, like like, should you involve players in 124 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:35,880 Speaker 1: the decision for a head coach? 125 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 2: Not at all. I'd say maybe one player if you 126 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 2: have a player that you believe is going to be 127 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 2: there for the next five to ten years and there's 128 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: no way you're going to get rid of them. But 129 00:06:52,320 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 2: you know, when it comes to you know, it can 130 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 2: be on both sides if you look at it like that. 131 00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 2: So if you have new coaches come in, a player 132 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: that everyone likes could be shipped out, and then when 133 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 2: you bring a lot obviously in this situation you bring 134 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: a coach in on Todd Duncan and but also I 135 00:07:12,080 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 2: think in the same instance, though, the issue is that 136 00:07:18,080 --> 00:07:21,280 Speaker 2: part of the reason is that's why we lost. You know, 137 00:07:21,360 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 2: you can make any reason, you can make it seem 138 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: like that's the why we lost these games. It's because 139 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 2: like we were all involved in that. So usually when 140 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: you do get a new head coach, it's like seventy 141 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: percent new roster, you know what I mean. And a 142 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 2: lot of the coaches are gone too, So that is normal, 143 00:07:38,040 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: and that's why coaches and players understand we're in this 144 00:07:42,200 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 2: year to year like there's anything can happen year to 145 00:07:45,840 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 2: year and either one of us can be gone next 146 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:51,120 Speaker 2: year or be here. It doesn't really matter. You can 147 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 2: have a great year and next thing, you know, you 148 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: can get trades in Seattle. I know that. I think 149 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 2: you might know something about that. So so it's it's 150 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 2: like you don't really want to get married to people. 151 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:06,520 Speaker 2: But in that same instance, though, do you want to 152 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 2: You know, you don't break something that's not broken. You know, 153 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 2: you don't fix something that's not broken. But you've got 154 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:16,200 Speaker 2: to trust the people making decisions on any team that 155 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,520 Speaker 2: you're on, and like you know, they get paid a 156 00:08:18,560 --> 00:08:19,840 Speaker 2: hell of a lot of you know, a hell of 157 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 2: a lot of money to make these decisions, and they're 158 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 2: making these decisions knowing that their jobs are the line. Also, 159 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: so you have to believe that they're not making these decisions, 160 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:31,240 Speaker 2: you know, half heartedly. 161 00:08:31,760 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: What about you, Dave means that something that you should 162 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: maybe the quarterback in this case would be different for 163 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,120 Speaker 1: the Browns, but in general, like, do you involve players 164 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: in decisions like that? 165 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would. I would agree with Shelby. 166 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: There would be a very very small group, I mean, 167 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,719 Speaker 3: whomever the real leaders were. But these are leaders that 168 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 3: you know are going to be part of your team 169 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 3: no matter what, for the next five years plus. And 170 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 3: I also think that you'll you'll bring those players in 171 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:07,800 Speaker 3: and you'll listen to them, and you'll then take whatever 172 00:09:07,880 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 3: ideas they have and you'll process that and then ultimately 173 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 3: the ownership gets to make the decision. 174 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 2: So you probably bring the. 175 00:09:15,840 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Guys back in and say, hey, here, here's why we 176 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 3: did what we did. I mean, it's just keeping lines 177 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:26,920 Speaker 3: of communication open between ownership and your star players so 178 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 3: that they feel like they're involved, even if really they're 179 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:39,880 Speaker 3: not that involved. Yeah, that was good. Entertaining, very entertaining. 180 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: This was from the movie though, but five six six 181 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:45,199 Speaker 1: one zeros or Kawae Kamas Berdell text line. There is 182 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 1: a George Payton conversation we need to get into because 183 00:09:47,360 --> 00:09:52,680 Speaker 1: there's a report over the weekend that Minnesota continues to 184 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 1: be in the conversation for George Payton. Once again, he's, well, 185 00:09:57,320 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: he's in the final year of his contract, and you 186 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: do the richest owners in all of sports. So the 187 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: question keeps coming up, and it was discussed a lot 188 00:10:05,040 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: on Twitter over the course of the weekend. Why the 189 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,040 Speaker 1: Broncos not extended George Peyton? Do we have a view 190 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: on that, Dave? 191 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 3: Do I have a view on why the Broncos have 192 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: not extended George Peyton? 193 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 2: Yes? Yet No. 194 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,040 Speaker 3: I think I think my view would be that ownership 195 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: was content sort of sitting back and seeing how the 196 00:10:37,080 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 3: tandem of Peyton and Peyton functioned, not only in terms 197 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: of draft choices and free agent acquisitions, but just how 198 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,040 Speaker 3: they function. I think I think that's been important. You 199 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: wouldn't want to extend a GM with a brand new 200 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: head coach who has a five year deal. Now he's 201 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:59,600 Speaker 3: he's finished three of those five. But I think they 202 00:10:59,679 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 3: wanted to see over the first three years of Sean 203 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 3: Payton's existence here how Sean and George function and. 204 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: What sort of results they had. 205 00:11:10,000 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 3: I do think the Minnesota opening is interesting, and I 206 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 3: think it does put a little bit of I think 207 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 3: it I think it may speed up the process that 208 00:11:25,480 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 3: the Walton Pinnter ownership group has to go through in 209 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:31,280 Speaker 3: terms of deciding, all right, do we want to bring 210 00:11:31,320 --> 00:11:33,680 Speaker 3: George back in a long term deal or not? 211 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 2: If so, what will that cost? If not? What would 212 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:39,320 Speaker 2: that mean? 213 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 3: And I think George is in a good position because frankly, 214 00:11:42,920 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 3: George can decide all right, what's what are the like? 215 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 2: What are the legs here of where I am? What 216 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 2: do those look like? 217 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 3: Am I Am I going to get a renewal offer? 218 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,200 Speaker 2: And what does the offer look like? And do I 219 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 2: think this thing has legs? 220 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 3: And by legs, do I think Sean's going to get 221 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 3: another contract? Do I feel confident with my relationship with Sean? 222 00:12:07,640 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 3: From appearances seems like those those dudes operate pretty well together, 223 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 3: but we're not behind closed doors. I think George is 224 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:18,600 Speaker 3: a really good football man, and I would I would. 225 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 3: I don't have to caution the Broncos about anything, but 226 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: I think I think he is excellent at his job. 227 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 3: So I think if for some reason he moves on, 228 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: or if you allow him to move on, whatever, you 229 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: got to have somebody in mind. Not the reverse he 230 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 3: moves on, It's like, well, now we got to find 231 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 3: a GM I would I would not. I don't think 232 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,600 Speaker 3: they'll operate that way, and I certainly wouldn't. 233 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,679 Speaker 2: Well, the one thing I guess is that George Peyton 234 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:50,880 Speaker 2: would be it's such a big part. He's so instrumental 235 00:12:50,920 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 2: on the team that's been built today. And the only 236 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 2: reason that this is even a conversation is because it's Minnesota. Yeah, 237 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 2: exactly where he came from, where it was his home, 238 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 2: where his kids were born. You know, like it's a 239 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 2: big deal, you know, when you have an opportunity to 240 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,199 Speaker 2: go back home, and so and also you have to 241 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: think if he goes back, it's probably gonna be for 242 00:13:11,679 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 2: you know, have some type of title increase too. It's 243 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: going to be something. It's going to be a big move. 244 00:13:17,960 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: And so if all le Broncos I gotta be worried, 245 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:21,560 Speaker 2: I would want to be able. I would want to 246 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:25,120 Speaker 2: lock him down and keep him in Denver and not 247 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,680 Speaker 2: let him go because there is not another George Payton 248 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 2: nothing that that's a guy who when he did come 249 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 2: in here, he really did fix the roster that the 250 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 2: Broncos had. And even from the rustle, like from the 251 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,840 Speaker 2: trade with Seattle, it left a lot of holes in 252 00:13:43,840 --> 00:13:46,520 Speaker 2: his roster, and he was able to draft very well 253 00:13:46,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: and to put people in positions that let them make 254 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:51,760 Speaker 2: it to the AFC Championship. I want if there's this 255 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 2: conversation on the other side, it's to go through. But 256 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: prior to your own I will say, I believe well, 257 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 2: I think the most copied era in music is probably 258 00:14:07,960 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 2: the best era in music. And so you'd have to 259 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 2: probably say the sixties or the seventies because every beat 260 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,960 Speaker 2: or every song you hear, and it's because there's no originality. 261 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 2: No one's original anymore. Everyone just copies each other and 262 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 2: it's all a song from It's all songs from the 263 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 2: sixties and seventies. 264 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: On the heels of the Grammys, we're having this conversation 265 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:33,800 Speaker 1: Grammy's Last Night five six six ninety zero or came 266 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: common spal, common Spirit, heal text line. So this is 267 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,920 Speaker 1: exactly what I was talking about and what I wanted 268 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: to get into it was about the popularity of gms. 269 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:42,520 Speaker 1: Because now we sit in here in the room and 270 00:14:42,520 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 1: we're saying all these nice things about George Payton and 271 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 1: what he has is an impact on this roster, what 272 00:14:47,960 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: we think he is as a GM, he's respected around 273 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:51,800 Speaker 1: the league. And then the very first text we get 274 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,160 Speaker 1: is George Payton, Hackett and Russell Wilson. 275 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 2: Enough said yeah, I commented back to that texture. 276 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 3: The reality is, yes, the Broncos and George Payton missed 277 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 3: on the Russell Wilson thing, and they clearly missed them. 278 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:09,720 Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett, right, Nathaniel Hackett was one was one of 279 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 3: the hot young names in football. And the belief I 280 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 3: have is that they the Broncos, thought we're going to 281 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 3: hire this guy, and we're gonna get Aaron Rodgers to 282 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: follow this guy. That was a big part of why 283 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,640 Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett was hired. But clearly a miss. The Russell 284 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:30,680 Speaker 3: Wilson thing a miss for sure, But I don't think 285 00:15:30,760 --> 00:15:33,720 Speaker 3: anybody I just texted Bect there were three other teams 286 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 3: that were very involved in trying to secure Russell. They 287 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,960 Speaker 3: just didn't come up with enough draft capital. So I mean, 288 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 3: he's easy to in hindsight look and say a miss, 289 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 3: and yes it was a miss. But I don't know 290 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:53,440 Speaker 3: that anybody saw Russell falling off the face of the 291 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:59,400 Speaker 3: earth the way he fell off from his days in Seattle. Now, 292 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: the thing, the other point in the Texter didn't mention 293 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 3: was the extension okay? 294 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: I think if we're gonna be honest about it, Yes, 295 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 2: they offer him an extension with two years left on 296 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 2: his deal. The Broncos did not have to offer that extension. 297 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,680 Speaker 3: The Russell Wilson camp went to the Broncos and said, 298 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: we'd like to talk about an extension. Okay, so you 299 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,720 Speaker 3: have one. You either have. You're at a fork in 300 00:16:22,760 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 3: the road. You can go left or right. If you 301 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 3: go left, and you say, now you know, we're good. 302 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 3: We appreciate that. And Russell Wilson has a great year, 303 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 3: which a lot of people felt like he might with 304 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 3: Nathaniel Hackett. Then they come back to you with one 305 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 3: year left on the deal, and what you could have 306 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,560 Speaker 3: gotten Russell Wilson for you're not getting him for that. 307 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 3: So you offer him a deal and he takes the 308 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: deal because you're betting, hey, I'm going to get ahead 309 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,080 Speaker 3: of the curve here and this. We're gonna get this 310 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 3: guy locked up before he sort of re explodes here. 311 00:16:59,800 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 2: And and they missed. Let's not forget it was a 312 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: time with new ownership, you know, changing of the tides. 313 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:13,000 Speaker 2: You want to make a splash. Is that completely. Is 314 00:17:13,000 --> 00:17:15,040 Speaker 2: that on George Payton, No, that's so. I think that's 315 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,600 Speaker 2: on everybody that was involved. I don't think you can 316 00:17:18,080 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 2: sit there and point the fingers at one. But yeah, 317 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 2: it was five years of mediocrity, and the whole idea 318 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: behind it was it was never a quarterback, so this 319 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:36,120 Speaker 2: no one expected it to end up like this. That's 320 00:17:36,160 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: obviously easy to talk about this after the fact, but 321 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:42,240 Speaker 2: when it happened, because I remember from when being in 322 00:17:42,240 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 2: the trade, my whole thought process of when I got 323 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 2: sent to Seattle, I was like, man, this is bs 324 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:50,920 Speaker 2: because I'm getting sent to the worst team in the 325 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: league and they're gonna get Russell Wilson, They're gonna be 326 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:55,120 Speaker 2: one of the best teams in the league and they're 327 00:17:55,119 --> 00:17:57,119 Speaker 2: going to go, you know, go to Super Bowl. I'm 328 00:17:57,119 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 2: would be I'm yeah. It pissed me off like that 329 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: part of it. So no one, even the players, no 330 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: one expected the drop off and for this to be 331 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:09,639 Speaker 2: the way it was. So you can't really put that 332 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,520 Speaker 2: on George because in hindsight, everyone thought it was going 333 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:16,400 Speaker 2: to be a great trade for both teams at all. 334 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 2: The Seahawks will end up getting a couple of players 335 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,119 Speaker 2: to get Drew who you know, they get their look at, 336 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 2: they get all the draft picks, which have also helped 337 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,960 Speaker 2: them get to where they are today. Yeah, those draft 338 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 2: picks are what really helped them. They got Charles Cross, 339 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 2: got Devin Wizards woom. So that's exactly what you expected 340 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 2: for the Broncos. But quicker like you expected the player 341 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 2: to go out there and really enhance them and the 342 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: draft picks that help seattle downline. 343 00:18:43,960 --> 00:18:46,399 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean today's point, right, you bring in this 344 00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: new quarterback and they want to talk about extension and 345 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: you just gave. 346 00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 2: Up a lot to acquire them. 347 00:18:52,640 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: So do you really want the first moment of that 348 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: relationship to be Now that's all right, we'll keep us 349 00:18:56,840 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: it to your rental. After we just gave up to first, 350 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: multiple day two picks, multiple players in the process to 351 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:05,639 Speaker 1: acquire you. The one thing that this entire process with 352 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: George and of course you had multiple coaches there, until 353 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: you have three straight years of Sean, I want to 354 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: know that my GM wants to take swings he's got. 355 00:19:13,119 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if there's a single gem in the 356 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: league that has one hundred percent popularity. There's been time 357 00:19:17,880 --> 00:19:20,200 Speaker 1: to think. Howie Roseman has had a very high level 358 00:19:20,240 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: of popularity. Maybe the GMS and Baltimore potentially, you know, 359 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: because they have consistently. But I wouldn't say there's a 360 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 1: single GM unless you guys can correct me, that has 361 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: ever been like, oh well, the entire fan base believes 362 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:34,040 Speaker 1: in everything they're doing. 363 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 2: Right now, I believe for this city, is there a 364 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:38,440 Speaker 2: GM that tells the true final percent of the time. 365 00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 3: There's not a coach that has one hundred percent likability either. 366 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:46,600 Speaker 3: It's partially due to the fact, as we've talked about, 367 00:19:46,600 --> 00:19:53,760 Speaker 3: football is the most easily second guest game, right everybody 368 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:57,840 Speaker 3: is an expert in football, and so in the smart 369 00:19:57,840 --> 00:20:01,399 Speaker 3: ownership goes through their they believe in and trying to 370 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 3: hire guys and then they let those those people work 371 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 3: and then they judge them, you know, accordingly. But it's 372 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: it's an it's it's an unscientific process. 373 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,240 Speaker 2: A lot of it is gut feel. 374 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 3: And I mean, you look at some of these guys 375 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:21,520 Speaker 3: coaching wise that just just recently got hired. I don't know, 376 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 3: I wish them all luck, maybe they maybe they'll all 377 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 3: be great, but a few of them I push back 378 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 3: and say, oh really, I mean, that's gonna be the 379 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,680 Speaker 3: guy that is your head coach and you just signed 380 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:39,479 Speaker 3: him to a five year deal. It's it's hard to find. 381 00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 3: It's just hard to find guys. And a lot of 382 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:46,240 Speaker 3: times you're rolling the dice on reputation and what another 383 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 3: owner that you like and you've grown close to What 384 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,399 Speaker 3: do you tell, oh, yeah, listen you this guy is 385 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: the absolute best. He knows people, he works well with people, 386 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 3: the whole nine. But it is hard to find guys. 387 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 3: I mean, Mike McDaniel got hired as a run coordinator 388 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 3: from Kyle Shanahan's San Francisco offense a few years back 389 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 3: in Miami. The first couple of years, they loved him 390 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 3: in Miami. I mean most people in Miami loved him. 391 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,159 Speaker 3: Now all of a sudden he's out of work two 392 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 3: years later, can't win again. I mean, didn't win as 393 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 3: many games as he should have. Did he all of 394 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: a sudden become a stupid coach. 395 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 2: I don't. It's just it's a tough business and you 396 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:29,400 Speaker 2: have to figure out you have to really figure out 397 00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 2: the perfect connection between GM and head coach. You know, 398 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 2: you've seen it where when it doesn't work out, it's 399 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:42,880 Speaker 2: toxic for the whole organization here, stories about head coach 400 00:21:42,920 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 2: won't talk to the GMG, I won't talk to the 401 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:45,080 Speaker 2: head coach. 402 00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,120 Speaker 1: Well, the Minnesota situation just now, like that we found 403 00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: out how toxic behind the scenes that was. They just 404 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 1: extended those guys last year, like they gave them an 405 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: extension side by side, like they did out on the 406 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:57,960 Speaker 1: Packers they did in forty nine ers, like we're hoping 407 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,000 Speaker 1: that the Broncos do here. But that's they just did 408 00:22:01,040 --> 00:22:02,919 Speaker 1: that last year and then you find out a year 409 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 1: later it was talks behind the scenes and they had 410 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 1: to move on. 411 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, and you're here about that always after the fact. 412 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 2: You know, it's always something that's gonna come out after 413 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: the to prove why, you know, you had to get 414 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 2: rid of somebody. But I think that's the most important, 415 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 2: you know, connection. You have to have your GM and 416 00:22:21,240 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 2: your head coach. And that's why I do like these 417 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 2: teams that are hiring GM and head coaches together because 418 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,000 Speaker 2: those two are going to be the face of your 419 00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 2: team and they're going to have to be able to 420 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,600 Speaker 2: work together to get the team to where you want. 421 00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 2: And we hear about the stories about Mike Zimmer and 422 00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 2: all that back in Minnesota about how Kellen Mond came 423 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,720 Speaker 2: out and was just pretty much how Mike Zimmer hated 424 00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:46,879 Speaker 2: them because owners I mean because you know, GM and 425 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,440 Speaker 2: ownership wanted a quarterback. Mike Zimmer wanted somebody on defense. 426 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: He wanted somebody on defense, he wanted to help there. 427 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 2: So it's just a you need to have two guys 428 00:22:57,960 --> 00:23:02,280 Speaker 2: on the same page in order to be successful. Especially 429 00:23:02,280 --> 00:23:06,880 Speaker 2: for gms, you usually don't get a second shot. If 430 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: you mess it up. As soon as you it you're 431 00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,680 Speaker 2: going back to some type of advisory role or something 432 00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:16,119 Speaker 2: like that. So that do you have to really find 433 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 2: the perfect situation. Well, no, you're on a hundred percent right. 434 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 2: But that's why I said that. 435 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't think like all the complaints and there's now 436 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:24,360 Speaker 1: we have mixed on the text line. 437 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,800 Speaker 2: We have people coming to defense to George Payton. 438 00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,560 Speaker 1: We have people that are continuing to not like George Payton, 439 00:23:28,600 --> 00:23:31,119 Speaker 1: which is remarkable to me because I kind of found 440 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:34,159 Speaker 1: myself in a bit of subsect of Twitter yesterday talking 441 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: to Broncos fans who did not like George Payton, and 442 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: I'm thinking, like, god, Lee, you just came off of 443 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,200 Speaker 1: as they put a fifteen. 444 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: And four record on the season. 445 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 1: You were in the AFC Championship game where if you 446 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,560 Speaker 1: had your starting quarterback. I know you disagree with the sentiment, 447 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: but a lot of Broncos fans feels if you had 448 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback you had a very good chance of 449 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 1: winning that game. It's a ten to seven game without 450 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: your starting quarterback. Point being here that George Peyton, you 451 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: may quit all that to Sean. George Payton is the 452 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:05,160 Speaker 1: guy that also helped put this roster together. Now, yeah, 453 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: you had to dig out a little bit of a 454 00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:09,399 Speaker 1: hole because of the Russell Wilson dead cap, Like that's 455 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,160 Speaker 1: an acknowledgement, But that's an acknowledgement because you brought Sean 456 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:13,840 Speaker 1: here and he didn't want to work with Russell Wilson, 457 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: so you put yourself. Both those guys kind of put 458 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:18,920 Speaker 1: themselves in that situation. My point of this, there's no 459 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: one hundred percent. There's never going to be a perfect 460 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: George has a lot of hits, he has some misses. 461 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: Like I would point to every single GM across the league. 462 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: They have their hits, they have their misses. What's important 463 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: to me is that they take swings that they're not 464 00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: coaching or being a GM scared they're not doing this 465 00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:37,680 Speaker 1: job with I got to protect myself and make sure 466 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 1: I keep my little fieft them here and make sure 467 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: nobody notices me too much. 468 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 2: No no, no no. 469 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: Take your swings, and if you miss, you miss. But 470 00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,879 Speaker 1: at least you tried and at least you knew you 471 00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: went down swinging. 472 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, all in. That's right. You got to go all in. 473 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 2: You know, you gotta feel like if you did lose 474 00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 2: your job, uh, well, at least I did everything I 475 00:24:54,880 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 2: possibly could. That's right, because, like you said, you don't 476 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: want to get stuck saying what if you know, what 477 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 2: if I would have tried, I had to go get 478 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers or Russell Wilson and you're still who was 479 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 2: our quarterback back? Then? We had Teddy Bridgewater that last year. 480 00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 2: Yeah it's Teddy Drew. You know, if you still have 481 00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 2: Drew and you go with Drew, like how many more 482 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:13,719 Speaker 2: years are you? Are? You still where you are? And 483 00:25:13,800 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: so it's so many what ifs. But I believe though 484 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 2: that you just have to trust. 485 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: On the text line five six six nine zero, please 486 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,960 Speaker 1: explain what a football GM does when it's not approaching 487 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 1: the draft or approaching a trade. 488 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 2: Deadline. What does the guy do every day? How is 489 00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: he supposed to communicate with the coach? 490 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: Jeeves are very busy. I mean well, first of all, 491 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: they manage the scouting department, right, Dave, So you're thinking 492 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 1: about during the college football season, there's a lot of communication. 493 00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,199 Speaker 1: The busiest time of the year, would you say is 494 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:43,560 Speaker 1: right now for most gums and front offices. 495 00:25:43,960 --> 00:25:47,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean there's if it's a working, a properly 496 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 3: working relationship, there's constant communication with the GM and the 497 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 3: coach during the season. It'll be with respect to injuries, 498 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 3: all right, this guy's down, we got to put them 499 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,959 Speaker 3: on ir What do we have in the practice squad? 500 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: And then there's a pipeline of players that every single 501 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 3: team has that these players are maybe currently unemployed, that 502 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:18,200 Speaker 3: you might need to call them. There's workouts by players 503 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 3: every Tuesday, like almost every Tuesday of every week of 504 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,679 Speaker 3: the season with every NFL team. It's one of the 505 00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 3: reasons players get Tuesdays off because they don't want to 506 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 3: see or the team doesn't really want them to see 507 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 3: the players they bring into workout because then all of 508 00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 3: a sudden, you might feel a certain way like okay, 509 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,399 Speaker 3: wait a minute, I just saw two wide receivers working 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 3: out here on Tuesday. What's that mean for me? So 511 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 3: constant communication. Yes, nowadays, now this time of year you're working, 512 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:53,119 Speaker 3: they've already started working on the draft, the draft and 513 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:56,480 Speaker 3: free agency and those two things. So the GM works 514 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:59,359 Speaker 3: closely with the coach and is Ryan said, also his 515 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 3: entire scouting staff in terms of where we want to be, 516 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 3: what we're looking at. And I think also finally making 517 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:13,560 Speaker 3: sure that the GM through the coach talks about what 518 00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:14,760 Speaker 3: we're looking. 519 00:27:14,480 --> 00:27:16,520 Speaker 2: For as far as players. 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,959 Speaker 3: What what What are the most important traits of a player? 521 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 3: Every single position will have traits that we're looking for. 522 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,040 Speaker 3: Some positions have, you know, the similar traits. What kind 523 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 3: of character we looking for? We look for a guy 524 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 3: that is, you know, has played more years in college 525 00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 3: than less. We don't want to go with guys who 526 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: have transferred more than two times. And there's all sorts 527 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 3: of things that vary from organization to organization. 528 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 2: I just want to say, I think that is something 529 00:27:44,040 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 2: that teams really should look at more nowadays, is how 530 00:27:47,800 --> 00:27:51,800 Speaker 2: many times guys transfer. And like I truly believe because 531 00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 2: in the NFL, do you there is no transferring? There 532 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 2: is only you have to figure it out or you're 533 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:03,360 Speaker 2: on the couch. And nowadays it's all this transfer. It's 534 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 2: not teaching anybody how to fight for your job. You're 535 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 2: just going to the place that's opening the check book 536 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 2: up and saying here it is your spot in the NFL. 537 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 2: And I've said this many many times before. That is 538 00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,159 Speaker 2: why I still have a job, is because you have 539 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:22,639 Speaker 2: to know when times get hard, you've got to be 540 00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 2: able to go out there and figure it out yourself. 541 00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 2: You can't run away from it. And that's what I 542 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:33,639 Speaker 2: just it's the craziest thing to me about the mindset 543 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 2: of a lot of the kids coming in and that's 544 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 2: what as a GM, you have to pay attention to 545 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 2: all of this because are you bringing this kid in 546 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 2: the start? Is he going to have to go to competition? 547 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 2: Has he ever had competition before in his life? Has 548 00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: he ever been able to has he actually won a 549 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,880 Speaker 2: competition battle? You know, that's what gms have to figure out. 550 00:28:53,920 --> 00:28:56,120 Speaker 2: They have to work hand in hand. But going back 551 00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:57,720 Speaker 2: to what Dave was saying, when it came to like 552 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:04,000 Speaker 2: the the workouts on Tuesdays, every GM has a backup 553 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: plan for if anybody got hurt they already know they 554 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 2: have a player they want to bring in, and that's 555 00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 2: what those Tuesday work ons are, is that necessarily that 556 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: they're signing them right then it's for the backup plan 557 00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: if something happens. Okay, I know, I got this guy 558 00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:17,320 Speaker 2: to bring in, or I have this ubther guy to 559 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: bring in. And that's what your coach has to trust 560 00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,360 Speaker 2: in the GM, because the coach doesn't have the time. 561 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,920 Speaker 2: He's working on the game plan and he's working on 562 00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:28,520 Speaker 2: the guys that are in the building. Now, the GM 563 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:30,440 Speaker 2: has to go and think in the future. If this 564 00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 2: guy gets who were going to bring in? Okay, let's 565 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,440 Speaker 2: bring him in for a workout, make sure he's in shape, 566 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 2: make sure that he's ready to go, you know, and 567 00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 2: you obviously always looking for guys, especially in Denver. Now 568 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 2: you have Sean Payton. So who's he bringing in Sean Payton? 569 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 2: Guys Guys that know how Sean likes to work. And 570 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: so that's the job I guess that's the GM is 571 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 2: to always stay one step ahead so that because the 572 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 2: coach isn't going, is the one that's going to be 573 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:53,480 Speaker 2: figuring that out. 574 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: On the text line, I thought Shelby had a job 575 00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:56,880 Speaker 1: because of his catching ability. 576 00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: Best hands in the league, m best hands in the studio. 577 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: No, oh, hey, listen, we can solve that. Bring a jug, 578 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,880 Speaker 3: we can solve it. We can go get a judge. 579 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: By the way, So we had Nate Jackson on the 580 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: show on Friday and we were talking about how the 581 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Broncos were second in the league and drops and he says, 582 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: it's because b Nix throws it too hard. 583 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:25,959 Speaker 2: Bring the bread farm problem? Is that what it is? 584 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:27,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, but I'm just saying that was the 585 00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 2: breath Farm. 586 00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 3: I'm more old school than Nate, and I got a 587 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 3: lot of respect from man. I really enjoyed the podcast 588 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: that that Nate Jake and does it does with Jake, 589 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 3: you're listen, yeah, your job, your job is to catch 590 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 3: the flipping ball. Now, I'll agree with Jake that there 591 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: are some passes. There are guys that play in the 592 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 3: league and have played for many, many years, and Shelby 593 00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 3: dis mentioned one of them that were one speed throwers. 594 00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 3: I'm talking about guys that were Pro Bowl quarterbacks. That 595 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 3: there's a guy who's in the Hall of Fame played 596 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 3: for the Steelers, was a one speed thrower. And so 597 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 3: that does challenge a receiver because the speed of the 598 00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:19,800 Speaker 3: football is going to be the same whether you've just 599 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 3: run a sixteen yard curl or a six yard hitch. 600 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 3: But the bottom line when it when you look at 601 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 3: it in finality, your job. 602 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 2: We pay you to catch the ball, and it touches 603 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 2: your hands, it needs to be a catch, says the 604 00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 2: defensive tackle. You know, I touched my hands a lot 605 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: and I don't catch this. I guess knock you down. 606 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't make you a good receiver. Though. Obviously you 607 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:49,320 Speaker 2: stop talking about this jug machine contest. We need to 608 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 2: your money spends. Hey, you know I always tell to 609 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:56,760 Speaker 2: the young guys. I tell these young guys, I tell 610 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: you young receivers, especially the guys, you know, the first rookies. 611 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 2: I'll be like more catchers than you guys. Right right now, 612 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 2: how's has that usually go? And then and then the 613 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:11,600 Speaker 2: first game happens? Right? Yeah, it was. It was a 614 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:13,040 Speaker 2: remarkable statement from him. 615 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: I hadn't thought about it like that because I thought 616 00:32:14,920 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: we're talking about Hey, Josh Allen throws it like a howitzer, right, 617 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: I mean John Elway. 618 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,640 Speaker 2: Historically, those teams don't Terry Terry Bradshaw. There's plenty of 619 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 2: guys that we can talk about. 620 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:30,280 Speaker 3: No, not not Damn Marino didn't have a didn't have 621 00:32:30,280 --> 00:32:32,360 Speaker 3: a rocking round, had had a very good arm, but 622 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 3: also had the ability to more than a lot to 623 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:36,880 Speaker 3: touch it. 624 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 1: But those those point is those teams didn't lead the 625 00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: league and drops like when you lead the league and 626 00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:45,640 Speaker 1: drops and the wrongs were second to the Jacksonville Jaguars. 627 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 1: He says, it's more on bo Nicks than the receivers. 628 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 3: No, I would absolutely disagree with that, And I'm sure 629 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 3: I'm talking about one play, key play, little Jordan Humphrey 630 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: in the a C Championship game. Now I'm not trying, 631 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: I'm not absolutely trying to throw shade at him, but 632 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 3: on the back shoulder stop route, should that ball been 633 00:33:10,840 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 3: caught or not? 634 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 2: That's a third Wait, that's a those they're down. No, 635 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 2: that's a fourth quarter. 636 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,240 Speaker 3: I'm not sure what down, but that's that's a fourth 637 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:25,640 Speaker 3: quarter throw that would have been a first down. You 638 00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:30,680 Speaker 3: have to have those plays you you if you're gonna 639 00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:35,160 Speaker 3: be I mean games that are tight, plays like that 640 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 3: decide like field position, continuing the drive, another series of downs. 641 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 2: You have to have that catch