1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: This is a podcast from WOR. Here's Larry Minty with 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:08,960 Speaker 1: more of the WOR Saturday Morning show. Space Force was 3 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 1: enacted as a sixth branch of the military under Donald Trump, 4 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: and it was immediately ridiculed, But now Space Force may 5 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: be the most important branch, according to futurist and podcast 6 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:26,240 Speaker 1: host Kevin Sirilli. Kevin, I'll tell you what I knew 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 1: you when you were a young lad at Penn State, 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 1: and look at you. Now You've got a successful podcast 9 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,479 Speaker 1: and you're talking about things I don't understand at all. 10 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 1: For some reason, you've just elevated intellectually, way behind beyond me. So, uh, congratulations. 11 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 2: Not true. 12 00:00:40,880 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: How is the podcast doing. 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: It's going great. You know, we just had this month. 14 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: We're really focusing on the United States Space Force. I 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 2: was in Orlando before the holiday and I was interviewing, 16 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,720 Speaker 2: you know, some of my friends from Space Force, and 17 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 2: you know what they're doing and the stuff that they're 18 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 2: working on in just six years. I think it really 19 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 2: just underscores the importance of space security being national security 20 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 2: is and I don't think necessarily people right now connect 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: just how much they rely on the technology systems that 22 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: are in outer space. In their everyday lives, and we 23 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 2: really all owe a debt of gratitude to the brave 24 00:01:21,520 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: men and women who are serving in the Space Force. 25 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: They're called guardians. So the army has soldiers, the Navy 26 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: has sailors, and the Space Force has guardians. But these 27 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 2: brave young guardians who are protecting these systems for all 28 00:01:36,720 --> 00:01:37,680 Speaker 2: of our everyday use. 29 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:41,119 Speaker 1: I love that you said that. I just I've done 30 00:01:41,160 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: so many commentaries over the year on Space Force and 31 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: the fact that it was ridiculed from the beginning just 32 00:01:46,480 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump did it, and how important it was. 33 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: Remember this was Eisenhower that talked about doing this. Reagan 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: talked about this with Star Wars. Everybody knew that the 35 00:01:57,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: war eventually would be fought in space, and that it 36 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: was important to own space and to protect space, and 37 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: to protect our spacecrafts and to protect our satellites. So 38 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: God bless them for the work they do. And the 39 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: ridicule was vicious and the ridicule was unwarranted. So thank 40 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:21,000 Speaker 1: you for talking about them as being American heroes. 41 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 2: Well, I want to thank you for that. I mean, 42 00:02:23,840 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 2: it's the truth, and quite frankly, I will say that 43 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 2: I believe that the creation of the United States Space 44 00:02:30,919 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Force will go down in history as one of the 45 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: Trump administration's biggest pieces of legacy and success, truthfully, and 46 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 2: it has bipartisan support in Washington, BC. But you know, 47 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: I think I get asked a lot in promoting this 48 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 2: podcast and with the creation of MCF dot CV and 49 00:02:53,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 2: Meet the Future about where the jobs are for the 50 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 2: future if you're a young person the Space Forces and 51 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,680 Speaker 2: not in the Space Force. You know, I did not 52 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 2: serve in the military, but the Space Force is definitely 53 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: a career path that if I were a teenager or 54 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 2: in my early twenties, that I would definitely be thinking of. 55 00:03:11,880 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 2: I mean, the science and the technology that requires to 56 00:03:15,800 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: be a guardian is truly unprecedented. These are some of 57 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: the best, most smartest, brightest young people and the responsibilities 58 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,560 Speaker 2: that they have just to protect the GPS system that 59 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 2: we all use every day on our ride share or 60 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 2: you know, and obviously GPS runs everything and from planes 61 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: and trains and automobiles. So it really is the future. 62 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: And that's why it's one of the many reasons I'm 63 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: so passionate about space exploration. 64 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you just said a moment ago, 65 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: it has bi partisan support. Now it has bipartisan support. 66 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:52,680 Speaker 1: Back when it was first talked about, it did not have. 67 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: It was ridiculed when he first talked about it. Remember 68 00:03:55,840 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: Netflix did a whole series, yeah, and making fun of 69 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: Space Force. So and they didn't deserve that. And you 70 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: know what, if you go back even to the Iraq 71 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: War when those smart bombs were falling, who do you think, 72 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: what do you think the guidance came from The guidance 73 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: came from satellites, They came from space. So this is 74 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: really important to our future. I'm sorry I'm getting off 75 00:04:18,720 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: on a tangent here, but you are you talking about 76 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: something I'm passionate about. 77 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:26,840 Speaker 2: No, I love it, I mean so am I And 78 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: I think like even and you know, and one of 79 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,640 Speaker 2: the things that I love the most about space that 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 2: I think the public is really the mainstream media. Larry 81 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 2: just has not done a good job of covering this. 82 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,000 Speaker 2: It's it's the potential for medical research in outer space 83 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 2: and that has direct results for Americans here on planet Earth. 84 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,599 Speaker 2: And so if you play that out already, step cell research, 85 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: organ research to to you know, have organs in space 86 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 2: for the for the shortage of organs here diseases like HIV, AIDS, dementia, 87 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 2: Parkinson's cancer, all of these types of illnesses. Because of 88 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: AI and because of being able to get to space 89 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: a lot faster, they are already looking at medicines and 90 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 2: studying that in outer space. So if you play that 91 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 2: through put very simply, the same way you mix ingredients 92 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 2: in your mixer and you put it in the oven 93 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: to bake a cake. You mix the medicine ingredients, it 94 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: bakes differently in outer space, which is why sub zero 95 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 2: gravity is more is important to do all of that. 96 00:05:26,080 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 2: But if you play that out and put simply, it's 97 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 2: like having a pharmacy in space in the future. Look 98 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 2: at COVID, Larry, what happened with the CCP, the Communist 99 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:37,560 Speaker 2: Party of China. What happened with them when we were 100 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 2: still reliant on our medicine supply chains during COVID It 101 00:05:40,880 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 2: was a disaster. We were overreliant on them. So if 102 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,200 Speaker 2: China or Iran or Russia is able to own the 103 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: supply chains in cescalin or orbit, that is not good. 104 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 2: And so you know, we talk a lot about going 105 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 2: to the moon unleashed all of this technology here for 106 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,800 Speaker 2: our country, the same thing is happening with AI and 107 00:06:02,880 --> 00:06:06,039 Speaker 2: the Artemis Project and eventually going to Mars that's going 108 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 2: to unleash a whole new level of science and the 109 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 2: State Force is protecting all of that. Yeah. 110 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 1: I could talk about this all day, but let's talk 111 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: about another topic real quick. Uh AI and all of 112 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 1: the money that's being generated for this country through AI. 113 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: There's from what I understand, and you know this better 114 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: than I do, there's two major hubs right one I 115 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: think it's Arizona and one in Pittsburgh right now. 116 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,799 Speaker 2: Well, there's yeah, there's a for for Yes, that's true. 117 00:06:31,800 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: And I think you know, other cities like Austin and 118 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: would would would fight with me and say, you know 119 00:06:37,000 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 2: what about all of this. But but the AI, I 120 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:41,800 Speaker 2: think right now at the start of the year and 121 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:44,400 Speaker 2: in Upstate New York today is you know, micron Is 122 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: is you know an underway with a huge semiconductor chip 123 00:06:49,279 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 2: project that they're that they're underway with. But I think 124 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: ship production for AI and the data centers and the 125 00:06:56,080 --> 00:06:59,640 Speaker 2: power that that's going to require. The Trump administration today 126 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 2: announcing that they are trying to really get the power 127 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:07,440 Speaker 2: companies and the data center companies talking to each other 128 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:10,640 Speaker 2: because it's going to require an update and modernization of 129 00:07:10,680 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: our grid and our electricity in order to harness data 130 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:18,040 Speaker 2: centers for artificial intelligence. This is all about transforming and 131 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 2: modernizing the United States infrastructure for the future. To win 132 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: the future, we invented AI, we should be able to 133 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,240 Speaker 2: use AI. I do not want anyone in America to 134 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 2: live near a hospital that doesn't have access to an 135 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,160 Speaker 2: AI data center. That's just not the world that I 136 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 2: want to live in. 137 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, Kevin very Well said. Kevin's really futurist and host 138 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: of iHeartMedia's Hello Future podcast. This has been a podcast 139 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: from wor