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Speaker 1: on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Happy Halloween, Mere Mortals, Welcome into the Friday Football Frenzy

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Speaker 2: on the Home of the Bengals ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati

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Speaker 2: Sports Station. Thanks to Skyline Chilly as well.

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Speaker 3: This is a live microphone inside the Bengals defensive meeting

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Speaker 3: room hall. This is what it sounds like film study,

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Speaker 3: player evaluation, one on ones with coaches? Was this to

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Speaker 3: play one Jackson marching his happy ass upstairs to request

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Speaker 3: a trade from the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what a day, What a time around the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Mike Pennell requested a trade or requested to be released.

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Speaker 2: He was granted that He's now with the Kansas City

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Speaker 2: Chiefs days later. McKinley Jackson, former third round pick. McKinley Jackson, yes,

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Speaker 2: does not want to be with the football program anymore.

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Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson has more SAX than Schamar Stewart. He does,

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Speaker 3: he does, and only like SYS six more games, seven

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Speaker 3: more games. It is absolutely unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: A former top one hundred draft pick in twenty twenty

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Speaker 2: four has requested a trade or release ahead of next

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Speaker 2: week's trade deadline. This on top of Logan Wilson already

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Speaker 2: doing so it's not good right now and the friendly

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Speaker 2: confines at pay Course Stadium. By the way, I have

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Speaker 2: updates from practice. Ben Baby has tweeted that Trey Hendrickson

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Speaker 2: is not practicing, missed the first two days of the

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Speaker 2: week as well. Logan Wilson is nowhere to be seen

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Speaker 2: during the open portion of today's practice. Joe Flacco is

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Speaker 2: out at practice today, but according to Ben Baby, isn't

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Speaker 2: stretching with the rest of the team. Flacco is going

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Speaker 2: to speak to the media at twelve fifteen. Logan Wilson

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Speaker 2: did show up late. He walked out later, So no

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Speaker 2: Trey practicing. He's not practiced either of the days of

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Speaker 2: the week, so I don't know what that means for

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Speaker 2: his availability Sunday. McKinley Jackson doesn't want to be here.

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Speaker 2: Logan Wilson got out to practice a little bit later.

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Speaker 2: He's been dealing with an injury. Does not seem like

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Speaker 2: things are going in the right direction in Cincinnati for

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Speaker 2: these Bengals.

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Speaker 3: Dalton Reisner's back though, Dalton Reisner's back, he had a

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Speaker 3: nasty case of vertigo, apparently, I've heard. I've never had that,

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Speaker 3: but they say that that just screws your whole life up.

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Speaker 3: Remember Nick Simzel used to get that a lot. I remember, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I remember. So not a lot of positivity. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: more about the Bengals here as we go in our

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Speaker 3: number one. It is a different schedule today based on

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Speaker 3: travel for me and what others needed to do to

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Speaker 3: fit things around. So Austin, as I understand, Charlie Goldsmith

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Speaker 2: When we finished with Tommy, I'm heading to CVG. I'm

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Speaker 2: heading to the airport, flying out the Salt Lake City.

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Speaker 2: Austin will have talkbacks and on in the Friday football

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Speaker 2: frenzy today, and we will bump up our pickum segment

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Speaker 2: to our number one the end of our number one,

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Speaker 2: so we can get that in before I head out

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Speaker 2: and take in the Bearcats and the Utah Utes tomorrow

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Speaker 2: night at ten fifteen. So a little bit of moving

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Speaker 2: and shaking here. I imagine that over half the talkbacks

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Speaker 2: get to today. What did you make last night? Was

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Speaker 2: last night, Austin more of an indictment on how bad

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Speaker 3: Think it started to make a little bit more sense

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Speaker 3: was efficiency from Lamar last night. Four touchdown passes, just

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Speaker 3: If you're Baltimore, you're probably happy that he didn't have

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Speaker 2: You mentioned just as big as Lamar coming back, getting

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Speaker 2: but you mentioned why everyone is so high on them.

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Speaker 2: Listen to what's coming up Minnesota, Cleveland, Jets, Bengals, Steelers Bengals.

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Speaker 3: And every time it feels like it's a backbreaker yep.

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Speaker 3: And Lamar can just keep the play alive long enough

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Speaker 3: Roethlisberger just enough, more similar than I thought. Just enough.

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Speaker 2: Anytime you hear non contact knee, you have to hold

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Speaker 3: No kidding, Yes, Delaware missed this things.

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Speaker 2: Delaware State knocked off Norfolk State twenty seven to twenty.

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Speaker 2: for Jackson, for DeShawn Jacks. How about that that dude

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Uh, tonight World Series. Those two actually connected on

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Speaker 2: Washington seemed like it won eighty yards in the year.

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Speaker 2: What else do we have? Game six of the World

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Speaker 2: Series happens tonight in Toronto. Uh, Blue Jays Dodgers, Blue

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Speaker 2: NBA Cup Nick Bulls, the Cup is up for grabs.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 3: And the NBA Cup League Player group play begins tonight

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Speaker 3: across the league. Should be fun. A new new court

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Speaker 2: Still not sure what the NBA Cup does. It's just something.

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Speaker 3: It's just something that how do you describe the NBA Cup.

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Speaker 3: It's something. It's something. Yeah, it's something that they do. Nicks,

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Speaker 3: by the way, four and a half point favorites in wow.

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Speaker 2: Game you want to talk about disrespectful point spreads, other

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Speaker 2: But Sunday does give an opportunity, Austin. If you can

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Speaker 3: Never or excuse me, just once since twenty nineteen has

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Speaker 3: FC Cincinnati won in Columbus.

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Speaker 2: Wow, some would say, then they're due. D u E

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Speaker 3: What else do we have? We'll take phone college basketball

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Speaker 2: that that conversation, and now Scott Woodward is out as

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Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

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Speaker 2: The school announced late last night, just days after Brian

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Speaker 2: the next coaching higher Okay, so good luck Verge.

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Speaker 3: real name, right, Vergi? Everybody knows a Virgil and they're

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Speaker 3: Yep, it'll be a signature when for Darren Horn's bunch,

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Speaker 3: You didn't dress up today for Halloween? I kind of did.

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Speaker 3: I'm wearing a gray like Bengals sideline hoodie Oka with

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Speaker 3: Now Bill Seig Dennison is dressed like an a car driver.

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Speaker 2: He's he's basically got an entire like endorsement line fire

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Speaker 2: I understand it was Crosley's favorite holiday. Now, mo, great job.

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Speaker 2: Last night took Crawsey to Skyline as their pre Halloween dinner,

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Speaker 2: Midnight midnight mountain time, bady Man, we're talking ourselves into it.

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Speaker 2: We'll go more Bengals and your phone calls. Next five one, three, seven, four, nine,

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Speaker 4: Now your chance.

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Speaker 7: Postman Law on ESPN fifteen thirty, The official home of

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Speaker 2: All right, let's update you where things stand right now

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Speaker 2: I believe there were four different wide receivers that did

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Speaker 3: This is one of those games if you're a Bear,

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Speaker 3: I'm not joking, like this is serious. I was asking.

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Speaker 2: So it's not like they shine and the Bengals are

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Speaker 2: Trey Hendrickson with the hip, Logan Wilson with the calf.

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Speaker 2: Friday Football Frenzy on ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 6: in Westchester. Monday afternoon. Join us as we talk Bengals, Bears,

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Speaker 1: It's closed versus pause when the Bengals and Bears battle

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Speaker 1: in the jungle. One thing I know for sure, somebody's

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Speaker 1: getting mauled. Will the Orange and Black pounced on the

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Speaker 2: Welcome back Friday Football Frenzy ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 2: Thanks to Skyline Chili as well. We have a Pickham

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Speaker 2: segment to get in and we're going to give ourselves

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Speaker 2: plenty of time to make those picks. So in the meantime,

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Speaker 2: let's take a phone call before we get to that.

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Speaker 2: John is calling in.

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Speaker 8: What's up John, Happy Halloween fellows.

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Speaker 3: Happy Halloween.

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Speaker 2: John.

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Speaker 8: Well, I'm going out as a Cincinnati Bengals defensive lineman

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Speaker 8: and my parent will be D line coach Jerry Montgomery.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna get to the door, ring the doorbell, and

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Speaker 8: before the person comes out to give me candy, the

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Speaker 8: kid behind me is gonna shove me out of the way.

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna complain and I'm going to ask for a trade,

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Speaker 8: and Terry Montgomery has no clue what he's doing, so

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Speaker 8: we get no candy, which is probably good for us

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Speaker 8: because you know, we could stay and lose a few

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Speaker 8: pounds here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: So I think that's my method for tonight and doing

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Speaker 8: this in Boston, which might send the men with a.

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Speaker 3: White coach after me.

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Speaker 8: But you know, just look at Jerry Montgomery, and I

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Speaker 8: do like to bash on him because we haven't been

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Speaker 8: bashing on.

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Speaker 9: Scott Peters as much.

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Speaker 8: But Jerry Montgomery, You've got two D lines to the

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Speaker 8: defensive lneman who went out right. Mike Pennel wanted out

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Speaker 8: Achiley Jackson wants out. Last year's he on White with

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Speaker 8: the Patriots couldn't stand Jerry Montgomery just but was the

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Speaker 8: worst coaching he ever received college or pro. The Patriots

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Speaker 8: are giving up one yard less per carry this year

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Speaker 8: than they did a year ago, and he in twenty

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Speaker 8: nineteen was the de whne coach of the Packers when

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Speaker 8: the forty nine ers average ten yards carrying me in

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Speaker 8: at the Champions Game. I don't know why he's coaching

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Speaker 8: the D line other than he's the day by the

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Speaker 8: Patriots or the Packers, not the Bengals. So we kind

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Speaker 8: of look at that as the players, the coach, the drafting,

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Speaker 8: all of that. It's just it's kind of difficult to

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Speaker 8: ascertain who's to blame the most because the scouting system

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Speaker 8: is so unique or weird, and that the assistant coaches

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Speaker 8: play a big part of it.

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Speaker 3: Coaches like guys with.

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Speaker 8: Traits, right because they figure they can clean them up.

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Speaker 8: Oh give me the guy six five to eighty five

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Speaker 8: from our Stewart, I'm going to coach him up and

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Speaker 8: he's going to be Miles Garrett.

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Speaker 9: Well it's not that easy, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's it's just a lack of I've said

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Speaker 2: this for years. It's a lack of connection that it

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Speaker 2: never feels like the personnel matches the scheme. And if

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Speaker 2: it doesn't, when you have to out coach or you've

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Speaker 2: got to be able to develop at a much higher level.

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Speaker 2: And they lack those advantages across the board as an organization.

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Speaker 2: And I think that's why they're in the situation. They

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Speaker 2: are outside of Joe Burrow falling in your lap and

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Speaker 2: Jamar Chay's falling in your lap.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, exactly, And go back with which twenty years ago,

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Speaker 8: Crustian Palmer fell in your lap and after a period

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Speaker 8: of time he got set up. I thought he was

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Speaker 8: a top five quarterback when healthy. Without question. Before I exit, guys,

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Speaker 8: I just want to ask a question. You were both

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Speaker 8: Cincinnati natives. Do you consider Cincinnati a southern city or

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Speaker 8: midwestern city?

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Speaker 3: Midwest? Midwestern? I think Midwest?

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Speaker 9: All right, that sounds good to me, John, thanks.

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Speaker 3: Jack to call him, and I have a great weekend.

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Speaker 4: Thanks, guys.

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Speaker 2: It is interesting Austin talk a ton about Zach Taylor.

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Speaker 2: We talked a ton about Al Golden, We've talked a

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Speaker 2: ton about Scott Peters. We've not mentioned Jerry Montgomery a

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Speaker 2: lot and yet here's the defensive line that cannot get

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Speaker 2: home with their life depended on it.

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Speaker 3: I drank the kool aid on Jerry Montgomery admittedly, and

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Speaker 3: again this is one of those things for me where

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Speaker 3: all just throw my mouse. That's fine. Just all roads

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Speaker 3: lead back to Zach Taylor. He's hired these coaches, right,

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Speaker 3: He's hired and fired these coaches. They're his group of guys.

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Speaker 3: They have to be able to deal with all the

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Speaker 3: other stuff that comes with being a Bengals coach. None

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Speaker 3: of it's really working out.

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Speaker 4: True.

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Speaker 2: Words may have never been spoken here on Halloween. Happy Halloween,

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Speaker 2: maor Happy Halloween, Mere Mortals.

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Speaker 3: We have some picks to make a lot of them.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel about people on TV wearing Halloween costs?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It To me, as long as everyone participates, I'm on board.

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Speaker 3: How do you feel if you're Chris Greer and you

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Speaker 3: tune in to the Pat McAfee show to hear what

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Speaker 3: they're saying about you getting canned by the Miami Dolphins.

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Speaker 3: While they're all in costume, Bart Simpson is talking about

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Speaker 3: you losing your job. It's tough or whoever McAfee is

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Speaker 3: dressed up as that is a far fall from the top.

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Speaker 2: We've got high school playoffs to pick, We've got a

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Speaker 2: college an NFL slate to pick ahead. Tommy G is

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Speaker 2: going to join us to kick off our number two

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Speaker 2: and so much more. It's the Friday Football Friends at

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Speaker 2: ESBN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station. Is there a better

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Speaker 2: sound on a Friday than that?

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Speaker 3: Right there?

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Speaker 2: What it means you're part of the Friday Football Frenzy.

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Speaker 2: Two of the weekends here, it's Halloween and we got

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Speaker 2: a lot of football to talk about. It's the end

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Speaker 2: of our number one. Why well, because Tom Gallider is

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Speaker 2: gonna switch it up. As we mentioned earlier, Tommy G

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Speaker 2: kicks off our number two and then I'm out of here.

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Speaker 2: I'm heading to the airport. Austin's gonna catch up with

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Speaker 2: Charlie Goldsmith. Austin will have talkbacks and on while I

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Speaker 2: get to the airport. So we had to move up

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Speaker 2: our weekly pick them. This is just finish up our

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Speaker 2: number one. Stuff is everywhere. Yeah, we're we're all over

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Speaker 2: the place right now.

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Speaker 3: I just got I was delivered candy into the studio

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Speaker 3: a moment ago. Wow feels like I mean, now it

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Speaker 3: really feels like Halloween.

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Speaker 2: Halloween is here, Yes, Mere Mortals, it's gonna keep dropping

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Speaker 2: that in today Austin. It's not only Halloween, but it's

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Speaker 2: high school playoffs here in Cincinnati, that's correct, and across

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Speaker 2: the state. Across the state as well. This though, unfortunately Austin,

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Speaker 2: this means that we don't get to pick Ready or Sydney.

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Speaker 3: Actually, I think it is fortunate that not everybody makes

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Speaker 3: the playoffs anymore like it used to be. It's a

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Speaker 3: giant waste of time for so many people. It's true.

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Speaker 3: We should have put together a Reading Sydney game this

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Speaker 3: weekend just for fun. Yeah, like a see if Mike

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Speaker 3: Gleeson could officiate it.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, now I'm I'm struggling because I the

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Speaker 2: Turkey Ball I used to play in the Turkey Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Saint Tavor.

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Speaker 2: Golden Bears would play on Thanksgiving. Why not get a

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Speaker 2: Halloween match set up between Sydney and Ready.

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Speaker 3: The turkey ball I used to play in was the EFLs,

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Speaker 3: the Football League.

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Speaker 2: Okay, and we used to have some battles. Man, Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like this.

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Speaker 3: I like this. Let's see Ready for Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: This is an eight to nine matchup this is the

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Speaker 2: closest matchup I've put on the list this week. Uh,

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Speaker 2: Mason is at Fairfield. I don't know much about either

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Speaker 2: one of these teams, I'll be honest, but I threw

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Speaker 2: it on there because it was a eight to nine matchup.

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Speaker 2: And I threw it on there because you were thinking

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Speaker 2: about adopting Mason as your school correct early before the

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Speaker 2: season started.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so I put it on there. Uh huh. And

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Speaker 3: despite you, I'm gonna pick Fairfield. Okay. So I know

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Speaker 3: a lot of people were wondering, you know, I actually

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Speaker 3: I talked to a lot of people and I'm like,

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Speaker 3: who do I pick in this game? Because you gave

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Speaker 3: me this sheet yesterday? Yes, which is very rare for you. Sure.

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Speaker 3: Everybody said too close to call. So I said, I'm

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Speaker 3: going with the Kamis who reached out to be my

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Speaker 3: friend at the beginning of the year. Okay, you dance

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Speaker 3: who you came dance with, who you came with. He

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Speaker 3: tried to say, gimme Mason, give me the comments.

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Speaker 2: Okay, what about this? What about Goshen at Talawanda.

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Speaker 3: I'm impressed you spelled Talawanda correct.

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Speaker 2: Well, I know Talawanda because Andy Stuckard is the head coach,

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Speaker 2: and Dominic Goodman, former Bearcat Griddy, their offensive coordinator.

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Speaker 3: Listen to this.

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Speaker 2: Talawanda running back Lance Cantrell has well gone over two

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Speaker 2: thousand rushing yards for the season.

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Speaker 3: He had four.

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Speaker 2: Hundred and twenty three rushing yards and five touchdowns in

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Speaker 2: the opener. At one point, I think he was leading

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Speaker 2: the nation and was at another point third in the

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Speaker 2: nation in rushing yards. He's been a top performer nationally

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Speaker 2: throughout the season, and Talawanda's nine to one. All of

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Speaker 2: that said, gimme Lance Cantrell, give me Dominic Goodman, give

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Speaker 2: me Talawanda.

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Speaker 3: In this one. I'm right there with you. I agree

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Speaker 3: with everything you said. You can't spell Wanda without Tala Talawanda. Wow,

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Speaker 3: you can't spell yep.

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Speaker 2: Never mind. Roger Bacon the Spartans. Yeah, this is an

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Speaker 2: unfamiliar spot for Wyoming. They're a seven seedah, Wyoming's not

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Speaker 2: used to that. But they get to host Roger Bacon.

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Speaker 2: What do you think.

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Speaker 3: Well, yesterday I had an excellent bacon, egg and cheese

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Speaker 3: breakfast sandwich and I thought to myself, I might have

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Speaker 3: to choose Roger Bacon based off of this. But then

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Speaker 3: I saw the clip of Logan Wilson asking for a

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Speaker 3: trade and talking about it with his wife on his podcast,

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Speaker 3: and that made me think of Wyoming, and none of

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Speaker 3: these things are actually all connected.

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Speaker 2: So I'll take Wyoming. I'm gonna take Wyoming as well.

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Speaker 2: Used to listen to this on Ghetto Cowboy. You better

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Speaker 2: count your money. You better count your money. Cowboys do that.

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Speaker 3: Tonight.

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Speaker 2: Wyoming wins Cowboys to according to Kelsey Vallerini, that's true too,

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Speaker 2: but they're not gonna cry tonight. Wyaman wins this over

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Speaker 2: Roger Bacon deer Park. You remember when deer Park was

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Speaker 2: five and oh no, Willie Cuttingham couldn't keep him quiet here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: And then I think in week six I picked deer

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Speaker 2: Park to win for the first time on the history

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Speaker 2: of this show.

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Speaker 3: Have one sense, they haven't.

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Speaker 2: Won since I don't know much about Anna or who

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Speaker 2: he or she is, But I'm gonna take Anna in

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Speaker 2: this one because I'm not picking deer Park.

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Speaker 3: I learned my lesson. Anna is about six minutes away

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Speaker 3: from Sydney, Ohio. Right up, I seventy five, you gotta

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Speaker 3: get go Sydney and then Anna, Home of the Rockets

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Speaker 3: and They are an absolute wagon. Are the Anna Rockets

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Speaker 3: just one state, just a couple of years ago. Shout

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Speaker 3: out my guy Chandler Cotterman and Anna Rockets legend played

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Speaker 3: at the University of Toledo. Anna is a wagon and

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Speaker 3: they will curb stomp Deer Park with ease this week.

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Speaker 2: That's for Willie, That's for Maso. And this is why

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Speaker 2: I should have done the hot fed hot fudge. Can

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Speaker 2: I talk today? Man?

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Speaker 3: I should have done the hot fudge Sunday bet with

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Speaker 3: Willy about this game. I'll take some Shelby County football.

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Speaker 3: Why why do that?

653
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 2: You don't have to bet anything, and you're gonna get

654
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 2: a hot fudge Sunday regardless of what happens. It's good point,

655
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 2: great point, actually, Bellbrook at Alter. Yeah, I put this

656
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: on here for our guy Chad Schaeffer, who I know

657
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 2: is listening right now, even though he thought the show

658
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 2: started at twelve oh five instead of actually noon right,

659
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: regardless of that, and regardless of the fact that Alter

660
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: hooked Mo up with some swag, but neither one of us.

661
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 3: I'll still take Alter well, Mo is a much more

662
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 3: powerful individual than we are. I think we've we've come

663
00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 3: to realize that over the years. You know, listen, when

664
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 3: I leave here at six o'clock every night, I really

665
00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:54,960
Speaker 3: want to get the hell out right. I never really

666
00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:58,720
Speaker 3: want to stick around. But last week I stuck around

667
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: for fifteen minutes because I wanted to talk to Chad Schaeffer. Wow,

668
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 3: he's the only person that would do that, that would

669
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 3: that would get me to stay here past six pm

670
00:34:07,960 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 3: on any day. Chad Schaeffer and the Altar Where are they?

671
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 3: The Knights? Yes, the Altar Knights come to comfortably.

672
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 2: Alter did the Belbrook did lose to Tip City this

673
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 2: year twenty one nothing, but they did beat it as

674
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,720
Speaker 2: a beast. Belle Fontaine, No dude, Belle Fountain, Belle Fountain.

675
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 2: They beat them thirty four to nothing. These two teams. Okay,

676
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take Alter as well. You're welcome, Chad. All right,

677
00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:33,440
Speaker 2: let's go to college slate. What do you think of

678
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:36,720
Speaker 2: Vandy and Texas? Both one loss teams in the SEC?

679
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Texas is a home favorite, but just by minus two

680
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 2: and a half? Are you taking the train? That is

681
00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 2: Diego Pavia. When you look at his stats, they're actually

682
00:34:46,680 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 2: not impressive. But he talks about himself in a Heisman sense.

683
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:51,840
Speaker 2: You would think he had the most impressive stats ever

684
00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 2: and for that reason. Nah, baby, nah, I'm on to diego.

685
00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 2: Vandy does not go to Texas and win. Give me

686
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,760
Speaker 2: Texas in this one. I'm actually going with Vandy.

687
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: Good.

688
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: Arch Manning got pulled over this week. Oh Steve Sarkisian

689
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,719
Speaker 3: had to deal with all these rumors about him going

690
00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 3: to the National Football League. People at Texas are unhappy.

691
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 3: Vanderbilt riding high.

692
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 2: Gimme Vandy, all right, I know you are high on

693
00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 2: the number two team in the country. Yeah, Kurt Signetti

694
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: and Indiana. They're gonna lay twenty one and a half

695
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:26,080
Speaker 2: on the road. Maryland, as a home dog, will get

696
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:27,400
Speaker 2: three plus touchdowns.

697
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 3: Is that enough? No? Okay, Indiana will comfortably cover that.

698
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,320
Speaker 3: I got Indiana as well. Yeah, Indiana.

699
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: They passed a big test last week with how well

700
00:35:37,560 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 2: UCLA was playing. Their mindset seems to be locked in

701
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:45,279
Speaker 2: on their ultimate goal. Maryland does offer no resistance over

702
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 2: the weekend. How about this, Texas Tech Austin, their starting

703
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 2: quarterback of the season got injured. Their backup came in

704
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:56,200
Speaker 2: and was phenomenal. Their backup just got hurt. The starter

705
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:59,560
Speaker 2: is back. They go to Kansas State. Kansas State has

706
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:02,440
Speaker 2: played better football as of late. Do you like the

707
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 2: Red Raiders or do you like the Wildcats.

708
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:06,439
Speaker 3: I like the Red Raiders. I believe they're the best

709
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: team in the Big twelve. I'm a little bit confused

710
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:10,880
Speaker 3: why this is just seven and a half, but I

711
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,319
Speaker 3: guess you're right. Kansas State has played better football as

712
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 3: of late, and they are at home. But I'll take

713
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: Texas Tech to cover that number.

714
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 2: Kansas State is coming off two of the more impressive

715
00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,480
Speaker 2: wins of the season in my opinion. They beat TCU

716
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: forty one twenty eight, and then they went on the

717
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 2: road to Kansas. I watched that Kansas team play. They

718
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: beat Kansas forty two to seventeen last week. They are

719
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 2: playing their best ball of the season right now. Give

720
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 2: me Kansas State to cover the number at seven and

721
00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 2: a half. Usc Dun dun, dun, dun, dun. About Oklahoma Tennessee,

722
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Tennessee number eighteen versus number fourteen. Tennessee's laying three

723
00:36:45,000 --> 00:36:48,280
Speaker 2: and a half. This to me is all about good

724
00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: old Rocky Top, Rocky Top, Tennessee. It's a night game

725
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 2: at Kneeland Stadium at Place is gonna be electric. I

726
00:36:57,400 --> 00:37:00,640
Speaker 2: don't care what the spread is. No Tennessee. Yep, all right,

727
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 2: as I was saying USC at Nebraska, you want to

728
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,239
Speaker 2: know how crazy this college coaching? Tarausal is gonna get

729
00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: austin Nebraska, and Matt Ruhle was rumored to be in

730
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 2: on some other jobs. So Nebraska came back and they extended,

731
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: and they gave more money to a coach that a

732
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago lost to Minnesota twenty four to six,

733
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,720
Speaker 2: a team that barely edged out Northwestern last week.

734
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: But yes, let's.

735
00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 2: Give all the money to Matt Ruhle to continue on

736
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: this road of mediocrity at Nebraska. They host USC, it's

737
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: a chance for a top twenty five win. Do they

738
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 2: take advantage of it getting six and a half?

739
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 3: Uh? This is the one I've struggled with the most.

740
00:37:46,040 --> 00:37:49,240
Speaker 3: Give me USC, let me do it. Give me a USC. Okay,

741
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 3: give me a Trojan.

742
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: I'll take Nebraska Dylan Ryola, and I think I'm picking

743
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 2: them more because they're wearing their black alternate uniforms. Oh crap, Yep,

744
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 2: We'll get to those all black uniforms. And another couple

745
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 2: of picks as well. Number five Georgia at Florida. Florida

746
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: is getting that home seven and a half Austin. They

747
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: fired their coach. Is this any type of circle the

748
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: wagons game for Florida with a fresh start with a

749
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,720
Speaker 2: new coach, or does Georgia take care of business?

750
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think Florida has the

751
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,640
Speaker 3: dogs to keep up with the dogs. Give me Georgia

752
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 3: over Florida Georgia seven and a half.

753
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,440
Speaker 2: I think these Georgia dogs are are hungry, and I

754
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: know hungry dogs run faster. Those Florida Gators have been

755
00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: staying on the porch as of late. I don't even

756
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 2: think Florida's a good job anymore. Give me Georgia to

757
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,040
Speaker 2: run away with the Jordan brand. Nope, not even with

758
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: the Jordan brand. This game I thought was game of

759
00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:45,960
Speaker 2: the year when the schedule came out. Say one versus

760
00:38:45,960 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 2: two is what it was supposed to be. Quarterback has

761
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 2: gone for Penn State. Drew Aller, James Franklin gone at

762
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 2: Penn State, and now Ohio State is favored by twenty

763
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,919
Speaker 2: and a half. I'm gonna be honest, I think they

764
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 2: embarrassed this Jim Knowles defense. I think Patricia pitches another shutout.

765
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:10,440
Speaker 2: This Ohio State defense has been ridiculous. Well, it's something

766
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,360
Speaker 2: along the lines of they give up under six points

767
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:16,040
Speaker 2: a game and they're not playing Wisconsin every week, which

768
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: is even more amazing. I think Ohio State this spread

769
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,160
Speaker 2: is laughable. I think Ohio State wins this by at

770
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 2: least four touchdowns.

771
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 3: I agree with you give me the buck eyes and

772
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,840
Speaker 3: it's a blackout at noon, but the Buckeyes aren't wearing black.

773
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 3: Oh well, people are very confused by this. Let's get

774
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 3: to our final college going on. Somebody explain it to me.

775
00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 3: What's going on with Nike and Ohio State and why

776
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: they can't get the black uniforms back?

777
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: Okay, makes sense speaking of a blackout. College game day

778
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: is in Salt Lake City, Utah is wearing their all

779
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:49,440
Speaker 2: black units. Is this our cheesy spread of the week.

780
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 2: You know what, let's make it our cheesy spread of

781
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:54,479
Speaker 2: the week. A rare occurrence. I had the horn ready,

782
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,560
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783
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784
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,920
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787
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788
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 2: hard to pick a favorite, so I'd suggest they have

789
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,920
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790
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791
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Speaker 2: Shulers Cheesy spread of the Week. Yes, it is a

792
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 2: cheesy spread because something just doesn't feel right about it.

793
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 2: Ten and a half. I get it to blackout in Utah.

794
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 2: I get that they're wearing hand painted helmets, but these

795
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,320
Speaker 2: Bearcats man haven't turned the ball over in seven games.

796
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 2: Soresby's playing at an unbelievable clip. They can hit you

797
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 2: on every different level they've been, but don't break on defense.

798
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,279
Speaker 2: I know that they got to stop the run. I

799
00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:56,839
Speaker 2: know Utah runs it for over two sixty a game.

800
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:02,520
Speaker 2: But I trust the dog in these Cincinnati Bearcats. I

801
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: trust to fight in these Cincinnati Bearcats. Bigger things on

802
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 2: the horizon. This is just a small blip on the

803
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 2: radar to the ultimate goal of playing in the College

804
00:41:11,600 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 2: Football Playoff with Scott Sodderfield. Give me the Bearcats in

805
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: a mockery of a ten and a half point spread.

806
00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,400
Speaker 2: It's embarrassing that they put ten and a half on this.

807
00:41:20,680 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 2: I'll take the Bearcats, and I'll take them on the

808
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: money line as well.

809
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:28,520
Speaker 3: You know who elsewhear's hand painted helmets the Cincinnati Bengals.

810
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem to matter for them that their helmets are

811
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 3: hand painted. I often think back to the famous Dan

812
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 3: Horde call when he says, did you see that? And

813
00:41:44,080 --> 00:41:50,239
Speaker 3: even though the Bearcats are ranked higher than Utah, I

814
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 3: do think a ten and a half point spread is

815
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 3: mildly insulting to the Bearcats, considering the way that they've

816
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 3: played so far, in the way that their quarterback Brendan Soars.

817
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 3: He has performed all season long. So I trust the quarterback,

818
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 3: I trust the coach. I trust Scott Saderfield. I think

819
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 3: the Bearcats can win this game. I don't know that

820
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,200
Speaker 3: they're gonna go blow out Utah. I think it could

821
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:15,680
Speaker 3: come down to a field goal, but they ain't gonna

822
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,920
Speaker 3: be a ten and a half point you loss to

823
00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:19,879
Speaker 3: the utah Utes. Gimme a cat.

824
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 2: I can just imagine austin the early morning of Sunday

825
00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 2: when this game is still being played and the final

826
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 2: horn goes and Dan may say it's not an upset,

827
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 2: it's an uprising. It wouldn't be an upset. Ten and

828
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,320
Speaker 2: a half point dogs, that's an upset in that sense. Yes,

829
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 2: all right, to the NFL. The Atlanta Falcons at the

830
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: New England Patriots. Patriots laying four and a half. Falcons

831
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:48,399
Speaker 2: were embarrassed, embarrassed last weekend to a point I thought

832
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: they may just pack it in for the season. But

833
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 2: everything I read up to this point is that the

834
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 2: Falcons will actually show up in New England, And if

835
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 2: they show up in this NFL that means they have

836
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,480
Speaker 2: a chance they erase the embarrassment of what they Miami

837
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 2: Dolphins did to him, and the Falcons find a way

838
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:05,040
Speaker 2: to cover against the Patriots.

839
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,720
Speaker 3: No chance bloodbaths again. Quarterback issues, offensive issues. Mike Rabel

840
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:13,640
Speaker 3: and company are going to have a plan for Bijon Robinson.

841
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 3: Give me the Patriots.

842
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 2: The Cults are red hot, one of, if not the

843
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,160
Speaker 2: best teams in the NFL right now. They travel to

844
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 2: the Pittsburgh Steelers and the Steelers are reeling. Kyle Duggar

845
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 2: comes in for the Steelers. They've made a move this week.

846
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,800
Speaker 2: Here come the Baltimore Ravens. As we talked about earlier, Steelers,

847
00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 2: better win this one. Can they win this one at

848
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 2: home as a three and a half point dog?

849
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 3: No, Okay, Indianapolis. I'm a favorite, I'm a fan. I'm

850
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 3: a believer in Danny Dimes and the Colts. They have

851
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 3: impressed me. That type of game that they play travels

852
00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:53,320
Speaker 3: even in a crappy field like Pittsburgh. Give me the Colts.

853
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: I'll take the Steelers.

854
00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 2: It just feels like a game over the course of

855
00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:01,719
Speaker 2: Tomlin's career that he finds a way to win. I'll

856
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 2: take the Steelers. I'll take Rogers to have a big

857
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: day the rest of these games, Austin. The last five picks,

858
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 2: all five teams are home dogs, and they're all laying

859
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,080
Speaker 2: two and a half, two and a half. Maybe it's

860
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:16,800
Speaker 2: gonna actually be a good week this week. Competitive window

861
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,799
Speaker 2: with the forty nine Ers and Giants. I know you're

862
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 2: big on the Giants. I know that this is a

863
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 2: creepy good team. I think the forty nine Ers are

864
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: too much. I think Robert Sala does enough to confuse

865
00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 2: Jackson Dark. Give me the Niners on the road.

866
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:32,120
Speaker 3: Not big enough anymore? Am I on the New York Giants.

867
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 3: They lost all their juice with Cams. Scataboo, Happy Halloween,

868
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:40,120
Speaker 3: Wo Niners, Wow, Jaggs Raiders.

869
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 2: This to me is the type of game that if

870
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,000
Speaker 2: the Jags are going to be a legitimate playoff contender

871
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,160
Speaker 2: throughout the AFC, this is a game that this franchise

872
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 2: has to go win. Off to a great start. They've

873
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 2: lost back to back against Seattle and Los Angeles, both

874
00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:59,080
Speaker 2: at home. Now they go on the road. It's in Vegas.

875
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: I'll take the Jag to cover. I've been high on

876
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: the Jags all year.

877
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 1: You have.

878
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 3: This just feels like a Jags loss. Oh, this just

879
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:11,840
Speaker 3: feels like a Pete Carroll special.

880
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:12,120
Speaker 10: Oh.

881
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 3: I can't put my finger on it. But for whatever reason,

882
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:21,600
Speaker 3: I believe, and especially on Halloween, give me the rating.

883
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: Hi good. We're opposite on that one. How about Seahawks

884
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: Commander Sunday Night Football. I think this is gonna be

885
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 2: a good one. Jane Daniels is expected to play. This

886
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 2: just feels to me like the hungrier team. I feel

887
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 2: like if the Commanders lose this, they might lose the season.

888
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,240
Speaker 2: Whereas Seattle has given themselves a little bit of a buffer.

889
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,719
Speaker 2: I think the Commanders are hungrier in this I'll take

890
00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 2: the Commanders at home.

891
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,719
Speaker 3: Originally I thought this game was in Seattle, which would

892
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:50,359
Speaker 3: have meant I would comfortably take the Seahawks. It is

893
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,680
Speaker 3: in Washington. That is a long long flight for the

894
00:45:53,719 --> 00:45:57,920
Speaker 3: Seattle Sea Buzzards. But they have the better throwback uniforms,

895
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: and I think right now they have the better quarter

896
00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 3: back in the better defense.

897
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,440
Speaker 2: So I'll take Seattle to upset Washington. Final two here,

898
00:46:06,520 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 2: Chiefs at Bills. A couple of weeks ago, Bills would

899
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: have probably been a six and a half point favorite

900
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:14,479
Speaker 2: in this one. They were one of the hottest teams

901
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: out of the gate. They have stumbled. The Chiefs have

902
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 2: found their rhythm. They're playing an exceptionally high level. But

903
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:27,919
Speaker 2: the Bills the early November as a home dog, get home.

904
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:30,279
Speaker 2: I'm not buying it. Give me Buffalo to win this.

905
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,520
Speaker 3: One, and you and I have the same exact thought

906
00:46:32,600 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 3: process right there. I just think that it is too much.

907
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 3: You know, in that building, it's going to be hyped up.

908
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: Buffalo still has a lot to prove. Kansas City. They're good,

909
00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 3: they're fine. I don't know if they're all the way

910
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 3: there yet. I take Buffalo Bears Bengals. This is very

911
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:51,239
Speaker 3: simple to me. If you don't want to be here,

912
00:46:51,280 --> 00:46:56,640
Speaker 3: then get out. McKinley Jackson, Bye, Mike Pennell Bye. I'd

913
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,000
Speaker 3: move on from Logan Wilson by Jermaine Burton might as well.

914
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:00,680
Speaker 3: I'll be gone.

915
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:04,080
Speaker 2: Circle the wagons, find out who wants to be here

916
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,879
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati, and if you don't want to be here,

917
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 2: see you later, be gone with them. The future starts

918
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:15,680
Speaker 2: now for the Cincinnati Bengals. I am not ready, in

919
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: my heart of hearts to give up on this season yet.

920
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: If the Bears had taken care of the Ravens last week,

921
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,080
Speaker 2: I'd have maybe bought into what the Bears had done

922
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 2: over the last four with that four game winning streak.

923
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,319
Speaker 2: I'm just not there on Caleb Williams yet. If there's

924
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: gonna be a game where he shines, it'll be against

925
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:35,000
Speaker 2: this defense. But I'm just not all the way there yet.

926
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:38,279
Speaker 2: Give me the Bengals as a home dog to win

927
00:47:38,360 --> 00:47:39,040
Speaker 2: this game out right.

928
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 3: The headlines on Monday will be has it finally clicked

929
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:46,279
Speaker 3: for Caleb Williams? Oh? How far can the Bears go?

930
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 2: Oh?

931
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 3: This is a game that Chicago can win. By thirty

932
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 3: five to forty points. Oh, I'll take the Bears.

933
00:47:52,600 --> 00:47:56,719
Speaker 2: And if that happens going into a bye week, does

934
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:58,600
Speaker 2: the head coach of the Bengals remain the head coach?

935
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,640
Speaker 3: I would guess yes, but I don't really know.

936
00:48:02,719 --> 00:48:06,279
Speaker 2: Players one out seems to be a fracture in the

937
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: locker room.

938
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 3: Something to watch for.

939
00:48:09,960 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: Tom Galader is next Friday Football Friends at ESPN fifteen thirty,

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946
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Speaker 1: This is Tony Pike's Friday Football Frenzy Show, brought to

947
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Speaker 1: you in part five. Fellow Windows and door Making life

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals.

955
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Speaker 3: All right, welcome back.

956
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 2: It's our two of the Friday with Paul Frenzy on

957
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Speaker 2: ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

958
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 3: Thanks to our friends at Cincy. Scarier and scarier out.

959
00:49:23,120 --> 00:49:26,880
Speaker 2: There, it's getting more horrifying. This is my last segment

960
00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:29,200
Speaker 2: before I head to the airport. Yeah, I'm getting ready

961
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,959
Speaker 2: to head out. You want to talk about scary four

962
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,919
Speaker 2: hour flight. That's gonna be scary, But not to worry

963
00:49:36,080 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 2: because to finish things off for me, we get to

964
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,120
Speaker 2: talk a little Hell is real. FC Cincinnati. They did

965
00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 2: the job they needed to do at home. They got

966
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 2: the win. Now they're going to travel. They got to

967
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:50,200
Speaker 2: finish up this series. Let's talk orange and blue. Let's

968
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 2: do so with the voice of FC Cincinnati, Tom Galater, Tommy, Tommy, Tommy,

969
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:55,520
Speaker 2: what's up.

970
00:49:56,600 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 4: Tony, Tony? Tony often fellas.

971
00:50:00,239 --> 00:50:00,840
Speaker 9: To be with you.

972
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:03,480
Speaker 8: I'm glad everything feels a little off here in the

973
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:04,040
Speaker 8: second hour.

974
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,080
Speaker 3: It did not our normal flot.

975
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:09,480
Speaker 8: So I hope that all of our faithful listeners, our

976
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,560
Speaker 8: guy Ronnie, I know he's always ending us up on

977
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 8: X like everybody who faithfully Tuesday for this segment caught

978
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:18,439
Speaker 8: it on social media to know that we were coming

979
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,400
Speaker 8: in a little bit hot, a little bit early today,

980
00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 8: so that all three of us could be together before

981
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 8: you get on that.

982
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 9: Flight, download some movies on your phone.

983
00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:26,600
Speaker 8: You'll be all right.

984
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 6: But here we are.

985
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,399
Speaker 9: Let's go the origs that blew up a game.

986
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,320
Speaker 8: The sun is shining, it's a little spooky, gives it Halloween,

987
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 8: but boys, it feels good.

988
00:50:34,880 --> 00:50:38,560
Speaker 2: You also felt like, you know, normally the normal MLS

989
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: schedule we talk on Fridays at two game happens on Saturday.

990
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,200
Speaker 2: We had to change our scheduling because FC Cincinnati's changing

991
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: the scheduling as well, from the Monday night win to

992
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,879
Speaker 2: now a Sunday night match against the Columbus Crew. How

993
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:59,239
Speaker 2: fun was How fun was Monday? The atmosphere, the rivalry.

994
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 2: It felt like they had some chances early that they

995
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 2: didn't take advantage of. But to get the goal late

996
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 2: from dank A to finish it off had to be

997
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 2: an unbelievable moment and an unbelievable atmosphere on Monday night.

998
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 10: Yeah.

999
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 8: Absolutely, I thought the crowd was great, awesome energy in

1000
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,960
Speaker 8: the building from the jump, which anybody could have predicted

1001
00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:21,240
Speaker 8: with the match against Columbus. You know, no love lost

1002
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,920
Speaker 8: in these games, and you know the tackles crunched a

1003
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:26,200
Speaker 8: little bit harder early. There's a couple of yellow cards

1004
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,799
Speaker 8: in the first half, and FC CINCINNTI, I thought, came

1005
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,520
Speaker 8: out and executed the game plan really, really well. We

1006
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 8: talked about it last week, and that's where if he

1007
00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,879
Speaker 8: said he found themselves in trouble this year, is when

1008
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 8: they strayed from that game plan and that wasn't the

1009
00:51:39,880 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 8: case at all on Monday night. So it took a

1010
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 8: little while to get the goal obviously didn't come until

1011
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,200
Speaker 8: about the seventy eighth minute with a game winner from

1012
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 8: Kevin Dank, But overall, a really strong performance from the side,

1013
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 8: And I thought the key that I that I brought

1014
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:56,840
Speaker 8: up on postgame that really stood out for me is

1015
00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:58,480
Speaker 8: that it was a really strong performance and a win

1016
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,360
Speaker 8: against your arrival in which you were missing a handful

1017
00:52:01,400 --> 00:52:02,080
Speaker 8: of guys.

1018
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 9: Who probably would have started if.

1019
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,680
Speaker 3: They were healthy.

1020
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 8: So all in all, a lot of positives coming out

1021
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:09,200
Speaker 8: of that one Monday.

1022
00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:12,440
Speaker 2: Night health wise. What will that look like on Sunday?

1023
00:52:12,480 --> 00:52:15,560
Speaker 2: Obviously you mentioned a little bit of shorthanded. Does that

1024
00:52:15,640 --> 00:52:17,040
Speaker 2: get changed Sunday?

1025
00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, maybe a little bit. Listen, And it's funny. My

1026
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:23,680
Speaker 8: kids love to ask me who I think is going

1027
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,320
Speaker 8: to start and who's going to be in the lineup.

1028
00:52:25,360 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 8: And we had this conversation last night and I said,

1029
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 8: you know, often when you come out, especially in the playoffs,

1030
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 8: right and you perform as.

1031
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:31,479
Speaker 9: Well as you did.

1032
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,960
Speaker 8: I don't know if Patt Newton had changes anything because

1033
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,360
Speaker 8: you went on and got to win with that starting eleven,

1034
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 8: and the subs who came in obviously affected the game.

1035
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:40,600
Speaker 9: Now that's the question.

1036
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:42,759
Speaker 8: Do they affect the game in a way where you

1037
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:44,080
Speaker 8: want to see him from the start?

1038
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:45,399
Speaker 9: Maybe?

1039
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 8: But Luca Orsen dressed in the match on Monday, and

1040
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 8: Pat acknowledge afterwards. He had told Kevin and I this

1041
00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:53,880
Speaker 8: in our meeting before the game, that he was really

1042
00:52:53,920 --> 00:52:56,920
Speaker 8: only on the bench as an emergency only sub, that

1043
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 8: if he came on it would have been very late

1044
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 8: for a couple of minutes and potentially penalty kicks, but

1045
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,439
Speaker 8: that he would not be a guy who could play

1046
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 8: very much. So as the week it progressed, is he

1047
00:53:07,400 --> 00:53:11,120
Speaker 8: in good enough shake to start? We'll see, you know,

1048
00:53:11,200 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 8: but I would imagine that that he'd be available for

1049
00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,920
Speaker 8: more minutes Lucas Engel has been working his way back

1050
00:53:16,040 --> 00:53:17,879
Speaker 8: maybe into the mix this week with the nerve pain,

1051
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 8: and Matt mi Alska is still going to be out,

1052
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 8: so maybe a little bit of a boost as far

1053
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:25,799
Speaker 8: as health is concerned. But again, like how much do

1054
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,319
Speaker 8: you shake up from anti Cincinnati side when you went out,

1055
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:30,799
Speaker 8: you got a clean sheet and you got the job

1056
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 8: done on Monday.

1057
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: How how much does it add confidence when you when

1058
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 2: you get the win and you could talk about being

1059
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:39,720
Speaker 2: shorthanded and maybe not even capitalizing and playing your best

1060
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: for a full ninety minutes. How how much confidence can

1061
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:45,799
Speaker 2: you gain by winning a match like that when you

1062
00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 2: have to play this team again.

1063
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:50,719
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's a big, big confidence boost going

1064
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,560
Speaker 8: up there. You know, look, Combus is not an easy

1065
00:53:52,560 --> 00:53:54,959
Speaker 8: place to win, and you know the crew are gonna

1066
00:53:54,960 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 8: throw everything at it because they're there are seasons on

1067
00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 8: the line now. But I think that you know, it

1068
00:54:00,360 --> 00:54:02,279
Speaker 8: wasn't a win that you felt like you got a

1069
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 8: lucky bounce, right, like you were the better team and

1070
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,320
Speaker 8: you got the goal that you deserved to win the match.

1071
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,440
Speaker 8: So I think from that perspective they should have a

1072
00:54:11,480 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 8: high level of confidence, you know, going north and uh,

1073
00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 8: you know, hopefully it translates into another strong performance.

1074
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 2: Austin, were you able to watch at all the video

1075
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:26,719
Speaker 2: of Tommy celebrating in the booth, No I missed that.

1076
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,439
Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, did Kevin punch you again?

1077
00:54:29,600 --> 00:54:29,759
Speaker 4: Well?

1078
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:31,920
Speaker 3: No, it was. It was such a big moment. They

1079
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 3: went double high five, Oh my god.

1080
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,839
Speaker 2: And then Tommy like, you know how like I don't

1081
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 2: I don't want to call it a fist.

1082
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,360
Speaker 3: Pump, but like the how would you describe it?

1083
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: Tommy, You're upward through like a like an uppercut punch

1084
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:48,239
Speaker 2: almost but he went with both hands, Austin, he went

1085
00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:52,680
Speaker 2: double fist uppercut. As he almost rose out of the booth.

1086
00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:56,880
Speaker 2: I almost thought he was gonna to levitate out of

1087
00:54:56,920 --> 00:55:00,000
Speaker 2: the booth as he reached and pleaded to those lists,

1088
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 2: I mean in the Queen City about what FC Cincinnati

1089
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 2: had just done. What happens in those moments, Tommy, is

1090
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,640
Speaker 2: is there just another is an aura farming?

1091
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,040
Speaker 3: Is it? Is it a blacked out? What happens in

1092
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:13,280
Speaker 3: those moments?

1093
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,279
Speaker 8: Yeah, my kid would call me Krian just you heard

1094
00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:20,160
Speaker 8: me talk about our farming, right, But no, I think

1095
00:55:20,200 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 8: it's uh like if that goal is scored in the

1096
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,240
Speaker 8: fourteenth minute.

1097
00:55:24,680 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 9: There's obviously a lot of excitement, but it's really early

1098
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 9: in the match. I think because of.

1099
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 8: The way the game was building and it's nil nil,

1100
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 8: it's that much bigger obviously then you know, you just

1101
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:37,600
Speaker 8: have the short amount of time to close it out.

1102
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 8: So I think Kevin and I are just kind of

1103
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 8: feeling it right. It's Columbus, it's the playoffs. It's the

1104
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 8: orange of Blue. Like, the vibes were very high in

1105
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,799
Speaker 8: the booth and uh yeah, I just kind of had

1106
00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:53,719
Speaker 8: to release that double this for us, whatever you want

1107
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,279
Speaker 8: to call it.

1108
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:56,480
Speaker 9: And and we'll see.

1109
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,360
Speaker 8: I got the booth cam packed up for for the weekend.

1110
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:02,440
Speaker 8: Uh Soday, I charged up and we're gonna, you know,

1111
00:56:02,520 --> 00:56:03,960
Speaker 8: and all to take it on the road. But you

1112
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 8: better believe in the playoffs that's going on the road.

1113
00:56:06,280 --> 00:56:09,440
Speaker 2: I we would be remiss not to bring up Nick

1114
00:56:09,480 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 2: Hagland and winning MLS Comeback Player of the Year, not

1115
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 2: just for what he's overcome, but to do so as

1116
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 2: a Cincinnati guy who's been around this club and has

1117
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 2: grown with this club. To earn those honors, it's it's

1118
00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,280
Speaker 2: a weird honor because you don't want to be hurt

1119
00:56:26,520 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: to a point where you have to be in contention

1120
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 2: to win this. It's one of those awards you just

1121
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,319
Speaker 2: want to win once. But just talk about everything that

1122
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: has gone into that and how important Nick Haglin is

1123
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 2: it to this club.

1124
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:40,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, you never want to be eligible for If you

1125
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:42,400
Speaker 8: saw the pretty cool video that the club put out

1126
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:45,880
Speaker 8: where everybody was outside of the stadium congratulating him or

1127
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 8: showing love for him. His wife jokingly said, congratulations, we

1128
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,880
Speaker 8: love you. Please your new become eligible for this. And

1129
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,439
Speaker 8: the reality is, and I did an event last week

1130
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 8: where I brought this up.

1131
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,759
Speaker 9: He came back to this year.

1132
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,160
Speaker 8: So he came back from the injury of last year

1133
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 8: what in April, to start playing again, and then he

1134
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 8: got hurt at the end of May, a very serious

1135
00:57:10,520 --> 00:57:13,399
Speaker 8: injury with the ribs being broken and the punctured lungs.

1136
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 8: So I think he was the runaway favorite for this

1137
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 8: and numbers kind of showed that, especially from the media,

1138
00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,120
Speaker 8: and you know, so he's very deserving of it.

1139
00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 9: But what does he mean.

1140
00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 8: I mean, he means everything for the club, everything for

1141
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,040
Speaker 8: the city, and his performances continue to help this team

1142
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 8: and he's an important number of the starting lineup. You'll

1143
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 8: be hard pressed to find anybody who cares about the

1144
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 8: success of this club or or any team in the

1145
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 8: city doing well more than Nick Haglin. I mean, look

1146
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 8: much like you, Tony, someone who grew up here, you know,

1147
00:57:45,960 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 8: who who has lived and breathed Cincinnati and everything that

1148
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,480
Speaker 8: comes with that. You know, his entire life, and of

1149
00:57:52,520 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 8: course when he was drafted out of Xavier, he left

1150
00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:58,160
Speaker 8: because there was no team to play for here Cincinnati.

1151
00:57:58,800 --> 00:58:01,160
Speaker 8: But then he got the opportunity back at twenty nineteen.

1152
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:02,800
Speaker 8: He's the only guy who's been with the club the

1153
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 8: entire time, and he's as great of an ambassador as

1154
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 8: this team will ever have, you know, to grow the sport,

1155
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,080
Speaker 8: to grow the love for the club and everything else

1156
00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 8: here in this city. So I love seeing a success.

1157
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: I love that he won it, you know, a much

1158
00:58:16,680 --> 00:58:18,880
Speaker 8: deserved honor and super happy for Nick.

1159
00:58:19,720 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 3: Uh Sunday Night, six point thirty.

1160
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,840
Speaker 2: What what will it take to not only close out

1161
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:29,000
Speaker 2: this series but do so against a rival? We know

1162
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 2: the history of this series, both in the regular season

1163
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: and in the playoffs, and you're so familiar with the

1164
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: other side. What does a game like Sunday come down to?

1165
00:58:39,760 --> 00:58:42,280
Speaker 8: I think as pat and I'm paraphrasing a little bit,

1166
00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:43,600
Speaker 8: but he said it that to the game, like the

1167
00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 8: key now is going up there and you kind of

1168
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 8: have to bottle up the way that you executed on

1169
00:58:49,160 --> 00:58:53,120
Speaker 8: Monday night replicated. And it's never quite that easy, right,

1170
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 8: whether that's in soccer or any sport, will worfin nanty

1171
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,280
Speaker 8: like make wholesale changes, I don't think. So maybe he

1172
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,440
Speaker 8: has to consider a couple of changes in his lineup.

1173
00:59:02,720 --> 00:59:03,560
Speaker 9: I think that's fair.

1174
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 8: Is he going to change the way his team plays?

1175
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 8: Absolutely not, But there could be some wrinkles within that system,

1176
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:11,880
Speaker 8: you know, and they got to go for it, and

1177
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 8: I think then, you know, you can't sit back and

1178
00:59:15,720 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 8: be okay getting to a penalty kicks shootout in an

1179
00:59:19,680 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 8: elimination match. So maybe you know, as the game progresses,

1180
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 8: is he thinking about his subs five or ten minutes earlier,

1181
00:59:26,880 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 8: you know, bringing in a weapon who could get him

1182
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,720
Speaker 8: a goal. And if I can get a first half goal,

1183
00:59:31,760 --> 00:59:33,840
Speaker 8: then obviously that flips the script a bit, right because

1184
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:36,120
Speaker 8: now you got to get a goal to tie just

1185
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:37,840
Speaker 8: to try to get a penalty kick shootout or two

1186
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:41,600
Speaker 8: to win. So you know, I think c Cincinnaty. They

1187
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:45,960
Speaker 8: can't become selfish. They can't stray from the game plan

1188
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:48,800
Speaker 8: that Pat and his assistant coaches present in front of them,

1189
00:59:48,840 --> 00:59:51,000
Speaker 8: because they saw how effective.

1190
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:52,560
Speaker 3: It was in the game on Monday.

1191
00:59:52,680 --> 00:59:55,120
Speaker 8: So if they can come out and be really strong

1192
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,480
Speaker 8: again defensively, I think the opportunities will be there. Offensively,

1193
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 8: they didn't press too much, know to or force them.

1194
01:00:01,480 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 8: I should say they pressed in the right moments, but

1195
01:00:03,560 --> 01:00:07,320
Speaker 8: you know they didn't. They didn't force the moments offensively,

1196
01:00:07,880 --> 01:00:08,640
Speaker 8: and you know, they.

1197
01:00:08,520 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 9: Could have had a couple of goals.

1198
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 8: So I think that, you know, it's all there for

1199
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 8: the taking, and you know, I'm curious to see how

1200
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,880
Speaker 8: these Columbus players react and you know, are they feeling

1201
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:23,240
Speaker 8: the pressure. But there are also guys who've been to finals,

1202
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,800
Speaker 8: a lot of guys who are playing for this team

1203
01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 8: and will be playing in the match and Sunday one

1204
01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 8: MLS couple with them just two years ago, So.

1205
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 3: Listen, they know how to win.

1206
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 8: Darlington Agbee will be playing that if they lose, and

1207
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 8: he's walking off the field for the last time, and

1208
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:40,240
Speaker 8: his teammates will know that and be fighting for him.

1209
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 8: So all the motivation in the world for Columbus, but

1210
01:00:42,760 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 8: all the motivation in the world for Cincinnati. They can

1211
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 8: end the rival season and you know, maybe finding a

1212
01:00:47,400 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 8: little bit of payback for you know, what occurred at

1213
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 8: TQL Stadium in twenty pointy three.

1214
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:53,040
Speaker 9: So man, I can't wait.

1215
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,000
Speaker 8: It's gonna be so much fun, you know, to be

1216
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 8: heart racing and tension and everything else. But if that's

1217
01:00:59,120 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 8: seas I didn't go up there and then they get

1218
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:03,840
Speaker 8: the break for two weeks, excuse me, which is frustrating

1219
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:06,040
Speaker 8: to have that time off. But I think in the

1220
01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 8: situation of Orange Blue, they'll be able to rest some

1221
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:11,360
Speaker 8: bodies and recharge them for the home stretch, which would

1222
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 8: hopefully just be three.

1223
01:01:12,160 --> 01:01:15,160
Speaker 9: Games after that. So you know, I.

1224
01:01:15,080 --> 01:01:17,280
Speaker 8: Think that they certainly have all the tools to get

1225
01:01:17,320 --> 01:01:20,320
Speaker 8: it done, and hopefully I'm driving back count seventy one,

1226
01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 8: you know, about nine o'clock or so on Sunday night

1227
01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:24,000
Speaker 8: with a big smile off face.

1228
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:27,959
Speaker 2: Format Wise, if a game three were needed, that would

1229
01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:33,040
Speaker 2: be next Saturday, November eight, that's at TQL Stadium. Moving

1230
01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,760
Speaker 2: on though, that they would play the winner of Miami

1231
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,400
Speaker 2: and Nashville. Miami leads that series one to zero right now.

1232
01:01:40,200 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 2: Clarification on mind, the best of three is just in

1233
01:01:43,840 --> 01:01:47,080
Speaker 2: round one. After that it's it's one game, correct, Okay.

1234
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's one and done after that, and then it

1235
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,280
Speaker 8: will go you know, in it's best of three first

1236
01:01:51,360 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 8: round because you're playing three games and you have to

1237
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,400
Speaker 8: have a winner. Obviously, they go to the penalty kick

1238
01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:58,480
Speaker 8: shoot out right after ninety minutes. But then once you

1239
01:01:58,520 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 8: get to the conference semifinal with just guaranteed at home

1240
01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 8: because that you since he got the two seat, and

1241
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 8: then and then beyond that conference final, in the last

1242
01:02:05,080 --> 01:02:07,800
Speaker 8: cup final, if the match is tied after ninety minutes,

1243
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 8: they go to the one hundred and twenty minute. You know,

1244
01:02:09,120 --> 01:02:12,840
Speaker 8: they played the extra thirty minutes of overtime and if

1245
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 8: a winner has decided in there, then.

1246
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:15,040
Speaker 3: Then it's over.

1247
01:02:15,080 --> 01:02:16,919
Speaker 8: And if not, then they go to penalty kicks after

1248
01:02:16,920 --> 01:02:17,680
Speaker 8: one hundred and twenty.

1249
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 3: Tommy, it's a Sunday match.

1250
01:02:21,240 --> 01:02:25,800
Speaker 2: So what does Halloween look like in the Glaider household tonight?

1251
01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:28,640
Speaker 9: I mean, the boys kind of splitting up.

1252
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 8: My older son gonna go hang out with high school friends.

1253
01:02:32,680 --> 01:02:34,560
Speaker 9: You know, they're like kind of that cusp of are

1254
01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 9: they too old? A trick or treat? I think they'll be,

1255
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:38,520
Speaker 9: you know, finding a few candy.

1256
01:02:38,280 --> 01:02:39,960
Speaker 8: Bars wherever they go around.

1257
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:41,040
Speaker 1: And then my.

1258
01:02:41,120 --> 01:02:43,920
Speaker 9: Younger son is dressed up like the devil kind of situation.

1259
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:45,760
Speaker 3: Okay, is real, he is real?

1260
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's perfect for for this weekend. So

1261
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 8: I don't know, I don't know if he's gonna wear

1262
01:02:50,720 --> 01:02:52,600
Speaker 8: it to the game or not, but I mean he'd

1263
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,360
Speaker 8: be right too. But uh yeah, so so he'll be

1264
01:02:56,520 --> 01:02:59,000
Speaker 8: he'll be doing heavy. He's got the pass of like

1265
01:02:59,240 --> 01:03:01,920
Speaker 8: you know, most fag for your buck tech situation. You know,

1266
01:03:02,040 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 8: at ten.

1267
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 3: Years old, he's ready to go. He's in his product.

1268
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,280
Speaker 8: That's like peak trick or treating. I feel like and

1269
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:08,560
Speaker 8: and and I don't like to walk with him, you

1270
01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:10,400
Speaker 8: know what I mean, I need exercise, but I don't

1271
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 8: at that age will going.

1272
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:12,360
Speaker 3: To let him pie.

1273
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,720
Speaker 2: So so you're you're passing the candy out tonight?

1274
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 3: Uh yeah? What are you passing out out.

1275
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:18,560
Speaker 9: On the porch?

1276
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 8: All the premium stuff get cast uh reaches, peanut butter cuffs, Snickers.

1277
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:26,120
Speaker 8: You know, you know, I'm gonna get my hand out

1278
01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,360
Speaker 8: like nerds, like if if you're giving up the little

1279
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:31,200
Speaker 8: those little boxes of nerds or Jolly ranchers like you

1280
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,120
Speaker 8: need to re evaluate your your distribution.

1281
01:03:33,400 --> 01:03:35,400
Speaker 3: Sure, Tommy, man, you're the best.

1282
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:35,800
Speaker 8: Uh.

1283
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:38,120
Speaker 2: I hope that when we're talking next week, we're talking

1284
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:40,240
Speaker 2: about how they put Columbus away and we're onto the

1285
01:03:40,280 --> 01:03:43,760
Speaker 2: second round. If not, we'll be talking about a game three.

1286
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,240
Speaker 12: Yeah.

1287
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:47,480
Speaker 2: Uh winner go home at t Quel Stadium. Either way,

1288
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 2: we'll talk again Friday with Tom Blander, the voice of

1289
01:03:50,760 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 2: FC Cincinnati.

1290
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 8: All right, sick, sick trip to Utah. Go get on

1291
01:03:54,640 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 8: that plane, you know, enjoy a little meal and maybe

1292
01:03:57,520 --> 01:03:59,800
Speaker 8: go watch movies or something and then uh yeah, get

1293
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,280
Speaker 8: that get that went out west tomorrow and I'll talk

1294
01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:03,080
Speaker 8: to you guys next week.

1295
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:03,520
Speaker 3: Awesome.

1296
01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:04,160
Speaker 1: That is Uh.

1297
01:04:05,040 --> 01:04:07,080
Speaker 8: Look at the Bootcamp video, man, we need someone else.

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01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 2: I lost it up. Literally, I rewatched it like ten times.

1299
01:04:11,200 --> 01:04:13,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go look at it. You gotta go check

1300
01:04:13,120 --> 01:04:13,439
Speaker 3: it out.

1301
01:04:13,560 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 2: The double uppercut jab as Tommy brings the fans to

1302
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 2: their feet is incredible. Mixed that in with a double

1303
01:04:21,080 --> 01:04:25,680
Speaker 2: high five. That's what the Boothcamp's made for. Yes, sir,

1304
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: let's go, Tommy, you're the best man.

1305
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 3: We'll talk to boy. All right, Tommy, Tom Gallader, I

1306
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:36,400
Speaker 3: am heading to CVG Austin has Tom watching it right now.

1307
01:04:36,760 --> 01:04:39,080
Speaker 3: This is a man who has lost complete control of

1308
01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 3: his body. He's lost it all this moment. Also, I

1309
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,000
Speaker 3: love that hoodie that keV is wearing. That's fire. That

1310
01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:45,680
Speaker 3: is pretty good.

1311
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 2: Happy Halloween, Mere Mortals. You'll hear more of that coming

1312
01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,360
Speaker 2: up next. Austin's got it. The rest of the way

1313
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:55,000
Speaker 2: the Friday Football Friends in ESPN fifteen thirty Cincinnati Sports Station.

1314
01:04:55,600 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 13: Now it's that time for come on now microphone and

1315
01:05:02,720 --> 01:05:06,600
Speaker 13: record your message for Austin and Tone. Please keep it

1316
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:10,320
Speaker 13: clean and don't be mean and had a.

1317
01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:12,280
Speaker 3: Sprinkle sprinkle drim.

1318
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 13: It's that time for talkbacks. It's our favorite part of

1319
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:22,760
Speaker 13: SINCI three sixty. Yeah, so Austin, buddy, play those talkbacks

1320
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,240
Speaker 13: on your street and please turn out to sabotage it.

1321
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,000
Speaker 1: Talkbacks, cool sabotage by.

1322
01:05:31,760 --> 01:05:36,000
Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, and welcome in to talkbacks. Here an hour

1323
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:40,160
Speaker 3: number two, the Halloween edition, Hour two, of course, brought

1324
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 3: to you by our friends at Cincy Shirts. Here on

1325
01:05:41,960 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 3: the Friday football Frenzy, Big Tone on his way to

1326
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 3: the tarmac. Tone on the tarmac for the Bearcats game

1327
01:05:50,000 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 3: in Utah. So it's just me for the rest of

1328
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 3: the way. Let's see what you guys had to say

1329
01:05:55,160 --> 01:06:07,640
Speaker 3: in the talkbacksy Halloween mood. That's how we're getting it started. Adi.

1330
01:06:08,800 --> 01:06:11,520
Speaker 5: You know what day it is, yep, Tony, I know

1331
01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:19,640
Speaker 5: you're listening Halloween Mama.

1332
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:18,960
Speaker 3: Two for two to start.

1333
01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:21,080
Speaker 14: Man, talk about mute me on the Bengal.

1334
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:22,040
Speaker 3: This is sad, man.

1335
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:24,840
Speaker 14: It started before the season started. You know, we got

1336
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 14: rid of and a Rimo pointed the finger at him.

1337
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,520
Speaker 14: Escape good at him. Shamar Stewart was bad picked. He

1338
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:31,959
Speaker 14: was disgruntled before the season even started. And he's still

1339
01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:35,600
Speaker 14: playing like he doesn't care if Flacco doesn't play on

1340
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,400
Speaker 14: Sunday or if you go out there and get hurt.

1341
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,680
Speaker 14: And we got to rely on Jake Browning and we

1342
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:41,960
Speaker 14: lose again, We're gonna lose that offensive side in the

1343
01:06:42,000 --> 01:06:42,640
Speaker 14: locker room too.

1344
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,520
Speaker 3: And then I really think we got to get rid

1345
01:06:44,560 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: of Zach. We got a five week coming up.

1346
01:06:46,160 --> 01:06:48,080
Speaker 14: It's a good opportunity to get a coach in here

1347
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 14: and trying to do something.

1348
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, if they get embarrassed by the Bears,

1349
01:06:52,000 --> 01:06:54,320
Speaker 3: I would have no problem with moving on from Zach.

1350
01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,360
Speaker 3: I would be surprised if they did it in the

1351
01:06:56,400 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 3: middle of the season, just because of all that has

1352
01:06:59,080 --> 01:07:01,160
Speaker 3: happened under Zach. I don't know that Mike Brown would

1353
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,560
Speaker 3: do that to him, but you do got to start

1354
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:04,400
Speaker 3: thinking that way.

1355
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:09,680
Speaker 15: I would think, Tony, it's Greg, have a safe trip

1356
01:07:10,120 --> 01:07:13,280
Speaker 15: and please bring back a winner.

1357
01:07:14,080 --> 01:07:16,840
Speaker 9: There you go, ton So it's trigger treat Day.

1358
01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 16: Well, for a long time now it feels like every

1359
01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,880
Speaker 16: day is trick or treat day with the Beagles because

1360
01:07:21,880 --> 01:07:23,960
Speaker 16: they trick us in there thinking they're actually going to

1361
01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 16: do something and try to improve why they treat theirselves

1362
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:30,680
Speaker 16: to our money. So that said, everybody enjoyed the Halloween night,

1363
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,480
Speaker 16: go get lots of candy their kiddos and those they

1364
01:07:33,480 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 16: don't want to have fun. Oh I gotta say to

1365
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 16: you is why, Oh my gosh.

1366
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 3: I used to be able to recite that entire why

1367
01:07:46,120 --> 01:07:50,880
Speaker 3: so serious thing I would. I would say my father

1368
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 3: was a drinker. I used to do that whole thing.

1369
01:07:55,680 --> 01:08:00,400
Speaker 17: Happy Halloween, mere much, Tony Austin.

1370
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: Hope you guys are doing great.

1371
01:08:02,080 --> 01:08:02,680
Speaker 18: It's your boy.

1372
01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:03,600
Speaker 2: You're mortal here.

1373
01:08:03,760 --> 01:08:05,000
Speaker 10: I wish you a happy Halloween.

1374
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 3: Mortal. Good to hear from you.

1375
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:09,720
Speaker 5: Thank you, hey, Tony, this is Henry down in Madisonville.

1376
01:08:10,080 --> 01:08:13,760
Speaker 15: I cannot believe the Bearcats play at ten fifteen tomorrow night.

1377
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,519
Speaker 3: That is pretty spooky if you ask me, but not

1378
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:18,679
Speaker 3: as spooky as this.

1379
01:08:19,120 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 10: Happy Belleen Mere Mortal.

1380
01:08:24,240 --> 01:08:28,080
Speaker 3: The range on these guys is unbelievable.

1381
01:08:27,320 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 19: Bill said, man if us all aft after all, I'll

1382
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:34,200
Speaker 19: just say one thing, Halloween mer Mortle.

1383
01:08:36,360 --> 01:08:39,920
Speaker 3: We're getting a tab involved in it. This is unbelievable, man.

1384
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:51,240
Speaker 2: Happy Halloween, Mere Martle, Happy Halloween mear Mortals.

1385
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:56,360
Speaker 3: These people are everywhere.

1386
01:08:57,160 --> 01:08:59,799
Speaker 4: What's up, guys? This is Hannah in Theville.

1387
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:00,599
Speaker 3: What up, Hannah?

1388
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,799
Speaker 4: I'm here on behalf of bonding.

1389
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 3: Easy to say, Happy Halloween mirror Mortals. Not as much

1390
01:09:08,439 --> 01:09:09,960
Speaker 3: flair in that one from Hannah.

1391
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,040
Speaker 20: Hey, they're austin or should I say exhaustin, because that's

1392
01:09:15,080 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 20: what you're doing to your listeners with your awful taste. Oh,

1393
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:21,080
Speaker 20: there's gonna be a lot of scary things this Halloween,

1394
01:09:22,120 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 20: but nothing scarier than Ohio State strength of schedule. Terrible

1395
01:09:27,400 --> 01:09:29,680
Speaker 20: it is, I agree, and I've just got one more

1396
01:09:29,800 --> 01:09:30,400
Speaker 20: thing to say.

1397
01:09:30,560 --> 01:09:34,120
Speaker 3: Here we go, Happy Halloween mirror Mortals.

1398
01:09:38,200 --> 01:09:38,680
Speaker 10: It is I.

1399
01:09:40,800 --> 01:09:45,840
Speaker 21: Chad Brendel's very good friend, the Undertaker, here with my

1400
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:51,400
Speaker 21: score prediction for this weekend between the Bearcats of Cincinnati

1401
01:09:52,800 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 21: and the Utah Natives Bearcats will win thirty one the

1402
01:10:00,920 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 21: Utah Native's twenty six. There you go go Bearcats all right?

1403
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,000
Speaker 3: Gosh, I always think when I hear that voice, I

1404
01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:13,720
Speaker 3: think of the first ever Chad brendle impersonator, and how

1405
01:10:13,880 --> 01:10:16,559
Speaker 3: Tony and I could not breathe we were laughing so hard.

1406
01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 12: It's the Lord Bengals chances of winning this weekend with

1407
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:31,080
Speaker 12: Joe Flaco Bengals win twenty four seventeen seventeen, Blaco Bengals

1408
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:33,479
Speaker 12: is twenty one twenty one.

1409
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,200
Speaker 3: What happened to the defense? Did they get good giving

1410
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:39,120
Speaker 3: up twenty points?

1411
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:40,320
Speaker 12: Wow?

1412
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 16: I mean, I'm starting to think here that jay Z

1413
01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,720
Speaker 16: needs to do another song called all Pike Everything. We

1414
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:50,280
Speaker 16: got Tony Pikes Sincy three to sixty Tony Pike's Monday

1415
01:10:50,320 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 16: midday quarterback, Tony Pike's football Frenday Friday. I definitely understand

1416
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:56,479
Speaker 16: the whole chop liver thing. I mean, yeah, go get

1417
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:59,240
Speaker 16: me wrong, how much guys together called that just that

1418
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:01,680
Speaker 16: just makes face so happy. But dude, you need a

1419
01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 16: piece of the pie here too. Maybe you need to

1420
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 16: change your last name to fight or something.

1421
01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:08,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm right there with you. Thank you Kevin. It

1422
01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,000
Speaker 3: is ridiculous, but I you know, I appreciate your support.

1423
01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:20,479
Speaker 3: Happy Halloween, me Moto, that's a pretty good one. That's

1424
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:24,920
Speaker 3: a strong submission right there. Yeah, you see plus ten

1425
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:25,360
Speaker 3: and a half.

1426
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 9: That's disrespectful.

1427
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:31,559
Speaker 12: The nation's not hit like a shadow growing in the east,

1428
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:33,400
Speaker 12: a nameless sphere.

1429
01:11:34,240 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 2: I'm Scott Swagerfield.

1430
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:41,160
Speaker 4: Swooper coming to tell the youth that they're just more.

1431
01:11:44,760 --> 01:11:48,599
Speaker 3: That's fine for Yeah. I mean that's like the biggest thing.

1432
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 3: If I'm going to bet on the game Saturday, I

1433
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:55,160
Speaker 3: need to see what sat is wearing. If he's going visor,

1434
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,240
Speaker 3: I'm probably gonna lean in Utah if he's got a

1435
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:00,920
Speaker 3: regular lid on. More get you on the Cats.

1436
01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:05,559
Speaker 5: Spooky facts about Mike Browns two hundred losses slow US

1437
01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,680
Speaker 5: to one hundred wings Forbes Banks to the Bengals, the

1438
01:12:07,760 --> 01:12:12,720
Speaker 5: least valuable NFL franchise, good businessman, mind cheeks and contract negotiations.

1439
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,320
Speaker 4: He insists on using a coupon.

1440
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,479
Speaker 5: He wants to ask where the clearance rap was at

1441
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:19,640
Speaker 5: the free agency store. His ineptitude is on an unimaginable

1442
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,160
Speaker 5: scale that none of us mere immortals can fathom. Mike

1443
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:25,040
Speaker 5: Brown is truly the Achille Smith feel of the Bengals.

1444
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,720
Speaker 5: By the way, kiddos, he passes out Hall's Mental lift

1445
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:30,400
Speaker 5: his coffees for Halloween Hughe ones re wrapped.

1446
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 15: Hey guys, this is JT from downtown. I'm having a

1447
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:40,160
Speaker 15: little marital problem, Tony. I wonder if you ever run

1448
01:12:40,240 --> 01:12:44,400
Speaker 15: into this. But my wife refuses to call a sports

1449
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:49,280
Speaker 15: team's uniforms a uniform. She refers to them as outfits

1450
01:12:49,640 --> 01:12:53,400
Speaker 15: or costumes. It's like, oh, I love the Bengals new outfits,

1451
01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,840
Speaker 15: or I love the Steelers costumes.

1452
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,960
Speaker 3: Please, for the love of God, just call it a uniform. Please,

1453
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,240
Speaker 3: for once you can reform. I'm not a married man,

1454
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,120
Speaker 3: but I would imagine there are some things and this

1455
01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 3: would probably fall into the category where you just pick

1456
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 3: your battles. Maybe not worth it to be upset or

1457
01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 3: make a big deal about that would be my guess.

1458
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 3: Maybe you could meet in the middle and say, Jerseys,

1459
01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:17,799
Speaker 3: I don't.

1460
01:13:17,640 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 5: Know what's up, Tony and Austin t Day's side, Tony,

1461
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,920
Speaker 5: I feel your pain. I walked my son to school

1462
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 5: first day of kindergarten, told myself to enjoy this. He'll

1463
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 5: be a senior before you know it. We dropped them

1464
01:13:29,320 --> 01:13:32,000
Speaker 5: off from Florida this September for college. It hurt when

1465
01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:32,479
Speaker 5: we left.

1466
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:33,120
Speaker 3: It was tough.

1467
01:13:33,479 --> 01:13:35,719
Speaker 5: They say the days are long, but the years are short.

1468
01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 18: True.

1469
01:13:36,280 --> 01:13:38,720
Speaker 5: Act don't beat yourself up for the moment you can't make,

1470
01:13:38,840 --> 01:13:40,599
Speaker 5: but make every memory you can.

1471
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 3: It goes so fast.

1472
01:13:42,920 --> 01:13:45,439
Speaker 5: And word of advice, let them choose a second NFL

1473
01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 5: team to cheer four.

1474
01:13:46,680 --> 01:13:48,320
Speaker 3: I think the wild Man is gonna be playing in

1475
01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 3: the NFL one day. Not to put any expectations on

1476
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:53,200
Speaker 3: the guy, but yeah, hey.

1477
01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:56,120
Speaker 22: Jeff from Casey here, I agree one thousand percent with

1478
01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 22: Tony that you know, our offens this game needs to

1479
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,600
Speaker 22: run the ball, keep our defense off field. However, I

1480
01:14:01,680 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 22: don't really think they're capable of that. Number one and

1481
01:14:04,840 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 22: then number two, I don't think they'll even try that

1482
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:09,080
Speaker 22: because I don't think Taylor has an enemy. He just

1483
01:14:09,240 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 22: likes to throw the ball. Secondly, after watching what the

1484
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,439
Speaker 22: Jets did to our defense, I mean, I think we're

1485
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 22: getting ready to see Keleb Williams look like the next

1486
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 22: Dan Marino.

1487
01:14:19,880 --> 01:14:25,240
Speaker 23: There you go, m E R E m O R

1488
01:14:25,479 --> 01:14:31,960
Speaker 23: t Aos. My stepdad's name was Virgil. Yeah, Utah is

1489
01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,120
Speaker 23: very physical, and I think that time is kind of

1490
01:14:35,200 --> 01:14:38,280
Speaker 23: weird for you see, but you see not a bunch

1491
01:14:38,360 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 23: of sissies.

1492
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm surprised Utah is favored by.

1493
01:14:41,160 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 4: Ten and a half.

1494
01:14:43,479 --> 01:14:47,320
Speaker 23: Hopefully the Bengals can run the ball real good, have dummy,

1495
01:14:47,439 --> 01:14:48,320
Speaker 23: Caleb Williams.

1496
01:14:49,680 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 3: It would be nice if the Bengals got a defensive

1497
01:14:51,680 --> 01:14:53,919
Speaker 3: touchdown on Sunday. That could mean victory.

1498
01:14:55,200 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 18: Hey, guys can from the last year, Tony, I hope

1499
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,120
Speaker 18: you hear this. You said you were going to be

1500
01:14:59,200 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 18: listening to talk about your way to the airport. I

1501
01:15:02,439 --> 01:15:04,600
Speaker 18: should have mentioned this yesterday when I called in. My

1502
01:15:04,720 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 18: daughter will be at that game. I mentioned that the

1503
01:15:08,160 --> 01:15:08,719
Speaker 18: other day.

1504
01:15:09,560 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 3: She'll be in her Bearcat gear.

1505
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 18: Probably I can't imagine there be that many Bearcats fans there,

1506
01:15:16,439 --> 01:15:18,960
Speaker 18: so you probably won't see her. But if you do

1507
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:22,439
Speaker 18: tell her, her dad says, hey, so have a safe trip.

1508
01:15:24,479 --> 01:15:24,840
Speaker 24: There you go.

1509
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 3: Thank you, Ken.

1510
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:30,759
Speaker 25: This is DJ in my five decades plus of watching

1511
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,599
Speaker 25: the Bengals, this is probably as frustrated as I've been. Okay,

1512
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,200
Speaker 25: the players, we don't have enough good players. The position

1513
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:39,560
Speaker 25: coaches can't scheme, are developed. The head coach is complacent

1514
01:15:39,920 --> 01:15:43,080
Speaker 25: and basically just a culture guy. The general manager can't

1515
01:15:43,120 --> 01:15:46,760
Speaker 25: pick players right, and ownership is so complacent that they

1516
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,400
Speaker 25: won't make changes. All I know when it's this broke,

1517
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:52,280
Speaker 25: changes have to come from the top down, and I'm

1518
01:15:52,320 --> 01:15:53,960
Speaker 25: exasperated because I don't see it happening.

1519
01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,160
Speaker 3: Okay, thank you, Audie.

1520
01:15:59,200 --> 01:16:00,880
Speaker 7: Did you say as a wagon?

1521
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:01,160
Speaker 4: No?

1522
01:16:02,960 --> 01:16:08,080
Speaker 3: Who? No, no, no, no, Anna is a wagon? Not

1523
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,880
Speaker 3: has a Ronny run Reppon and Natty othern Sonny Hot?

1524
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:14,080
Speaker 3: Well what up Tony?

1525
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:14,400
Speaker 6: What up?

1526
01:16:14,400 --> 01:16:14,679
Speaker 1: Buddy?

1527
01:16:14,680 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 3: A little shout to the talking back President.

1528
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 19: I heard you, g My bear cat's getting disrespected, not

1529
01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,559
Speaker 19: only in all conference, but you know you tah doing

1530
01:16:22,600 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 19: a thing. We about to go out there and black

1531
01:16:24,160 --> 01:16:26,559
Speaker 19: them boys out about to pass all over them.

1532
01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,639
Speaker 3: Were bringing that smoke. We ain't scared.

1533
01:16:29,000 --> 01:16:32,000
Speaker 19: Mkiley Jackson, you want to leave? Take thute witch you please.

1534
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,280
Speaker 19: We don't need this, dude. That's CEE Cincinnati. This is

1535
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:37,040
Speaker 19: your time to bring up the hardware in the city.

1536
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,840
Speaker 3: Let's get it there you go, And Ronnie? How about

1537
01:16:39,880 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 3: Ronnie ron getting shout out from Tommy g uh in

1538
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 3: the phone call earlier? That was large, Hey asn't so,

1539
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:48,200
Speaker 3: Brian and I a boy, Hey Bradley.

1540
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:52,360
Speaker 26: Anyways, I gotta be honest with y Austin. I like

1541
01:16:52,439 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 26: the show better this you. I mean, Connie, he's big

1542
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 26: time man. He gets up there, talks about himself constantly.

1543
01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:04,639
Speaker 26: Pike see Clifton Football Hall of Fame ratting.

1544
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,599
Speaker 9: It's all about him. You know you just talked ball.

1545
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,720
Speaker 26: You're one of us, and I can push my weight

1546
01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 26: around you see blue ash because I'm big time, but

1547
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:13,519
Speaker 26: I don't.

1548
01:17:13,600 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 3: It's called humility. Yeah, it's good point, Brad. I mean

1549
01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: it's a great point actually. And yeah we're what thirty

1550
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:21,479
Speaker 3: five days away, thirty six days away from Pike to

1551
01:17:21,560 --> 01:17:23,840
Speaker 3: Bins and that'll get, you know, to go through that

1552
01:17:23,960 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: whole thing again. It's just Tony's like the NFL, where

1553
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,400
Speaker 3: you're just trying to constantly keep himself in the news cycle.

1554
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,439
Speaker 3: You know, does this kids? Oh, let me get fired

1555
01:17:31,439 --> 01:17:33,240
Speaker 3: and I'll come back the whole nine yards. You know

1556
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 3: how it is. There is one high.

1557
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:37,840
Speaker 27: School team you need to add to your pickums, and

1558
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:43,240
Speaker 27: that is through in mind alumni Layman Catholic Cavaliers, the

1559
01:17:43,320 --> 01:17:47,080
Speaker 27: eighth seed hosting Minster at the Sydney Memorial Stadium.

1560
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,479
Speaker 3: Oh okay, I figured Sydney was hosting a playoff game tonight.

1561
01:17:50,479 --> 01:17:53,759
Speaker 3: I didn't know who so that's a home game basically

1562
01:17:53,800 --> 01:17:55,760
Speaker 3: for Layman because they play all their home games in

1563
01:17:55,920 --> 01:17:59,439
Speaker 3: our stadium. Uh give me Minster by a thousand over

1564
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 3: the Layman cap back again for a double up.

1565
01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 19: Got too loud on the outside, so I had to

1566
01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 19: run inside real fast. Saturday Night's game is very important

1567
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,080
Speaker 19: for you see football, even though we get disrespected from

1568
01:18:09,120 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 19: the Big Twelve Conference and Utah just already disrespecting us

1569
01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,160
Speaker 19: as it is. You see has to be balanced on

1570
01:18:16,240 --> 01:18:18,840
Speaker 19: both ends, running the ball and passing the ball. But

1571
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:22,080
Speaker 19: passing for me, it's definitely had to be one of

1572
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:25,360
Speaker 19: our main attacks. Feature Jeorge Royer and feature card Will

1573
01:18:25,479 --> 01:18:28,160
Speaker 19: I think you see has a chance against Utah secondary.

1574
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:31,559
Speaker 3: I really do. We can get this. Ronnie Rod breaking

1575
01:18:31,640 --> 01:18:35,760
Speaker 3: it down. Hey, what's up Tony and Austin. It's your boy,

1576
01:18:35,880 --> 01:18:40,200
Speaker 3: Big Sharon from Hyde Park. I just wanted to let

1577
01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:40,720
Speaker 3: you now.

1578
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,519
Speaker 2: We're going over to the Fine Pig over in Oakley

1579
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:45,160
Speaker 2: celebrate Halloween.

1580
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:47,760
Speaker 3: And on that note, I got one thing to say,

1581
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:53,439
Speaker 3: Happy Halloween, mean mooreto I might have to stop by.

1582
01:18:54,320 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 3: Hey it's the homie and homie Hoppy holloway Man Mard Okay,

1583
01:19:03,640 --> 01:19:06,639
Speaker 3: the hombie that might be my favorite one that was awesome.

1584
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:12,360
Speaker 28: Guys, can you name me another NFL franchise that spends

1585
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 28: first round draft picks more on project players? And if

1586
01:19:16,000 --> 01:19:19,640
Speaker 28: you can, I can almost guarantee that their franchise is

1587
01:19:19,960 --> 01:19:21,880
Speaker 28: just as bad as the Cincinnati Bengals.

1588
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,920
Speaker 3: The first one that comes to mind is the New

1589
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:27,640
Speaker 3: England Patriots because they were so bad at drafting for

1590
01:19:27,800 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 3: years but overcame it because of their quarterback and their coach.

1591
01:19:33,000 --> 01:19:34,720
Speaker 3: I would need some time to chew on that.

1592
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:36,559
Speaker 2: Hey, Tony Hey.

1593
01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:40,320
Speaker 29: Austin prediction on the game this weekend. I think the

1594
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:45,639
Speaker 29: Bears take us twenty four to six. Brownie, you gonna

1595
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:46,960
Speaker 29: have a couple of picks. It's going to be a

1596
01:19:47,000 --> 01:19:50,679
Speaker 29: long weekend with that. But I think we're gonna actually

1597
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:52,439
Speaker 29: win out in Utah.

1598
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:53,080
Speaker 2: I really do.

1599
01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:55,320
Speaker 29: I think we're gonna speak got up the ball with

1600
01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,440
Speaker 29: at least a seven point win out there, So do Bearcats.

1601
01:20:00,200 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 3: I really wish the Bengals could figure out what they really.

1602
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:03,759
Speaker 1: Want to do on defense.

1603
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,800
Speaker 3: I give you credit for only giving the Bears twenty

1604
01:20:06,840 --> 01:20:09,559
Speaker 3: four points. I mean, this is a much better offense

1605
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,920
Speaker 3: than the Jets. I expect the Bears to flirt with forty.

1606
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 29: Hey, Austin Paul Fcleeves here. I wanted to give it

1607
01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,360
Speaker 29: a shout out to my son's football team. They're in

1608
01:20:18,439 --> 01:20:21,759
Speaker 29: the state playoffs that we're going to Clinton Massy tonight.

1609
01:20:22,720 --> 01:20:25,679
Speaker 29: But the main reason I'm calling is I really can't

1610
01:20:25,720 --> 01:20:29,720
Speaker 29: see Mike Brown moving on from Zach Taylor midseason. I

1611
01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 29: don't even know if he's going to do it next season.

1612
01:20:32,400 --> 01:20:35,880
Speaker 29: The problem is is he likes those loyal guys, those

1613
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,439
Speaker 29: yes man just like Marble Lewis. I mean, if we

1614
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:40,759
Speaker 29: suffered with Marbarina Lillis for how many years.

1615
01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:44,599
Speaker 3: Come on, man, well, I would push back on that pot.

1616
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't think that Zach is a yes man, and

1617
01:20:47,240 --> 01:20:49,160
Speaker 3: I don't think that Marvin was a yes man. I

1618
01:20:49,240 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: actually know for a fact about some of the interactions

1619
01:20:52,240 --> 01:20:56,320
Speaker 3: between Zach and Mike Brown and roster building and decisions

1620
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,920
Speaker 3: and stuff like that. And Zach's not afraid to make

1621
01:21:00,160 --> 01:21:02,439
Speaker 3: his opinion known and to plead with Mike about what

1622
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:05,400
Speaker 3: he thinks about things. And Mike sometimes agrees with him,

1623
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:09,040
Speaker 3: sometimes he disagrees with him. Sometimes he chooses Zach's way

1624
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:12,320
Speaker 3: over his own way. Like I think there is this

1625
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:18,240
Speaker 3: idea of Mike Brown being this old stubborn, closed minded man,

1626
01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,280
Speaker 3: and I don't think that's true. I don't think that

1627
01:21:21,439 --> 01:21:24,599
Speaker 3: is an accurate representation of Mike Brown. And I get

1628
01:21:24,640 --> 01:21:26,439
Speaker 3: people are gonna call me a shill and they're gonna

1629
01:21:26,439 --> 01:21:30,240
Speaker 3: call me a homer. I understand that. I believe Mike

1630
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 3: Brown wants to win. I believe through the years of

1631
01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:37,360
Speaker 3: work done with Mike, through Marvin Lewis, and even with

1632
01:21:37,560 --> 01:21:41,559
Speaker 3: Zach Taylor, that Mike is open minded. He doesn't always

1633
01:21:41,920 --> 01:21:43,880
Speaker 3: sign off on what the coach wants to do, but

1634
01:21:44,000 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 3: he will listen and if you present your case, he's

1635
01:21:47,320 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 3: willing to go in that direction. I want to stress

1636
01:21:52,200 --> 01:21:55,439
Speaker 3: that I don't believe Mike Brown calls every single shot

1637
01:21:55,640 --> 01:21:59,160
Speaker 3: when it comes to the football operations. I really don't

1638
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: believe that. Yes, he has to sign off on everything,

1639
01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:05,639
Speaker 3: and oftentimes I think he does, and yes his voice

1640
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:08,320
Speaker 3: is heard as it should be. He's the president. But

1641
01:22:08,479 --> 01:22:11,559
Speaker 3: this idea that Mike is just closed off and we're

1642
01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:14,479
Speaker 3: doing it his way and nobody else's way is not true.

1643
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 3: That's not based in fact. It might have been twenty

1644
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:23,040
Speaker 3: and thirty years ago, but it's not the case now.

1645
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,320
Speaker 3: It is truly a collective when it comes to how

1646
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 3: they operate the organization from a football department. Again, there's

1647
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,360
Speaker 3: nine ten people in their personnel department. Now that's more

1648
01:22:35,400 --> 01:22:37,880
Speaker 3: than what it used to be. More voices in the room,

1649
01:22:38,520 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 3: a large coaching staff, more voices in the room. I

1650
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:43,880
Speaker 3: get everybody wants to blame Mike Brown, and he does

1651
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 3: deserve a lot of blame, no doubt about it. But

1652
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,839
Speaker 3: the idea that every coach who plays for the Bengals

1653
01:22:49,880 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 3: is just or that coaches for the Bengals is just

1654
01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:57,840
Speaker 3: some sort of yes man. I think that's wildly off base. Hey, Tony,

1655
01:22:57,840 --> 01:22:59,840
Speaker 3: how about you and Dan bring back a win from

1656
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:04,200
Speaker 3: you tall an old McCovey cove one hundred yards and

1657
01:23:04,280 --> 01:23:10,720
Speaker 3: two touchdowns here. See there you go, McCovey cove. Halloween

1658
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:21,799
Speaker 3: damn Mortals. That is amazing, the just the sheer volume

1659
01:23:22,400 --> 01:23:23,960
Speaker 3: of our diversity of the group.

1660
01:23:24,840 --> 01:23:26,720
Speaker 14: You know, one thing, one smart thing that I was

1661
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,240
Speaker 14: told a long time ago.

1662
01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,200
Speaker 2: When one of those betting lines stinks and it does

1663
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:32,640
Speaker 2: not make sense.

1664
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:34,519
Speaker 28: It's usually for reasons.

1665
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:38,360
Speaker 14: Beware if you're betting uh U se plus ten and

1666
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 14: a half, because that line makes no sense none. So

1667
01:23:42,880 --> 01:23:44,479
Speaker 14: it's usually the opposite of what you.

1668
01:23:44,920 --> 01:23:46,599
Speaker 4: What you think it's never that easy.

1669
01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 8: Austin Toney, what up?

1670
01:23:52,880 --> 01:23:53,439
Speaker 4: It's Ian.

1671
01:23:55,040 --> 01:23:58,439
Speaker 17: Hey, I don't have much faith in the Bengals winning either,

1672
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:04,400
Speaker 17: but everybody says who Day at the end seems uh

1673
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:09,320
Speaker 17: counter intuitive to say who Day if you don't believe, yeah,

1674
01:24:09,479 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 17: that they can win.

1675
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,240
Speaker 3: I mean, I get where you're coming from on that,

1676
01:24:12,640 --> 01:24:15,519
Speaker 3: but that's just that's something that's a rally cry, that's

1677
01:24:15,560 --> 01:24:17,960
Speaker 3: a way for us all to come together. You know,

1678
01:24:18,080 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 3: it's like being in a relationship. It's like being married again.

1679
01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:25,880
Speaker 3: I'm not married, but you're with this person. You love

1680
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,400
Speaker 3: this person. They anger you, sometimes, they frustrate you, they

1681
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 3: sadden you at times, there are rocky roads that you

1682
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:36,439
Speaker 3: have to travel together. But at the end of the day,

1683
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:40,120
Speaker 3: that's your person. And at the end of the phone

1684
01:24:40,200 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 3: call you say I love you, and at the end

1685
01:24:42,400 --> 01:24:44,040
Speaker 3: of at the end of the night you kiss them

1686
01:24:44,040 --> 01:24:46,840
Speaker 3: before you go to bed. That's what hooday means. The

1687
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:49,719
Speaker 3: Bengals fans, Yes, we're mad at you and we're angry

1688
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 3: at you Bengals, but we love you and who Day.

1689
01:24:53,800 --> 01:24:56,320
Speaker 3: That's what that means. That's that's what that comes from.

1690
01:24:56,400 --> 01:25:00,240
Speaker 3: And obviously when you look at the stricter definition of

1691
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:02,519
Speaker 3: who day. You see where we're all coming from there.

1692
01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:05,640
Speaker 3: But that's the point, all right. That's hit for talkbacks,

1693
01:25:05,720 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 3: great idea and a great execution for the mere mortal gang.

1694
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:15,200
Speaker 3: On this Halloween twenty twenty five, when we come back,

1695
01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 3: it's football in the NATI on ESPN fifteen thirty. It's

1696
01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:21,960
Speaker 3: his Football in the NATI.

1697
01:25:22,439 --> 01:25:26,120
Speaker 7: Brunch you in part by Bud Light and by Oakley

1698
01:25:26,240 --> 01:25:30,680
Speaker 7: Greens on ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the

1699
01:25:30,800 --> 01:25:31,919
Speaker 7: Cincinnati Bengals.

1700
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,840
Speaker 3: Yes, indeed, it is football in the Natty, in a

1701
01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:38,120
Speaker 3: big weekend of football in the Natty. Obviously, the Bearcats

1702
01:25:38,160 --> 01:25:40,599
Speaker 3: on the road College Game Day gonna be there against

1703
01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:44,680
Speaker 3: Utah and the Bengals looking to salvage any hope they

1704
01:25:44,800 --> 01:25:48,000
Speaker 3: might have in the twenty twenty five season and do

1705
01:25:48,160 --> 01:25:51,240
Speaker 3: so at home against the Bears. Here's what you've missed

1706
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 3: so far today. Joe Flacco met with the media earlier today,

1707
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 3: and that was originally supposed to happen on Wednesday. With

1708
01:26:01,680 --> 01:26:06,120
Speaker 3: his situation and availability in flux, it was kind of

1709
01:26:06,320 --> 01:26:09,360
Speaker 3: unclear whether or not it was going to be Jake

1710
01:26:09,439 --> 01:26:12,920
Speaker 3: Browning or Joe Flacco meeting with the media it ended

1711
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,680
Speaker 3: up being Joe Flacco. Here's about ninety seconds of the

1712
01:26:16,720 --> 01:26:20,759
Speaker 3: Bengals quarterback from earlier today talking to the media about

1713
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:26,760
Speaker 3: his injury, how he feels, and more. I feel good, Yeah,

1714
01:26:27,560 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 3: you feel good?

1715
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:30,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I listen.

1716
01:26:30,760 --> 01:26:32,840
Speaker 24: I've never really talked about injuries before, so I don't

1717
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,479
Speaker 24: know what to say, but yeah, I feel good.

1718
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,640
Speaker 3: I did yesterday go it went well.

1719
01:26:36,680 --> 01:26:37,640
Speaker 1: I was happy without one.

1720
01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:41,960
Speaker 2: So what's the biggest obstacle playing with that type of

1721
01:26:41,960 --> 01:26:42,559
Speaker 2: shoulders frame.

1722
01:26:42,760 --> 01:26:45,720
Speaker 20: How does that make it's more difficult to maybe adventures?

1723
01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,599
Speaker 24: Yeah, well, I think it's I don't know, I've never

1724
01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:51,600
Speaker 24: really dealt with it before, but I guess there's a

1725
01:26:51,640 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 24: point where it's not really up to you. It's just

1726
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:56,920
Speaker 24: kind of how it's reacting and how you feel. So

1727
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,240
Speaker 24: why I wanted to make sure, you know, I was

1728
01:27:03,280 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 24: able to test it out a little bit.

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01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 23: So it was Wednesday, just today, We're just give it

1730
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:09,519
Speaker 23: one more day and then give it the shot on Thursday.

1731
01:27:10,120 --> 01:27:12,400
Speaker 24: I didn't want to do anything to you know, I

1732
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,000
Speaker 24: think the I think the idea was just treatment and

1733
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,680
Speaker 24: and get as much as that, get as much of

1734
01:27:19,760 --> 01:27:22,360
Speaker 24: that as possible, get it feeling as good as possible.

1735
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 3: And then go from there.

1736
01:27:24,720 --> 01:27:27,479
Speaker 2: I just talk about needing to see how it reacts.

1737
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:29,680
Speaker 3: Is that why, even though you say you feel good

1738
01:27:29,680 --> 01:27:31,080
Speaker 3: about that, you really need.

1739
01:27:31,000 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 2: To need a couple more nations to make sure on

1740
01:27:32,880 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 2: Sunday everything's good or at this point.

1741
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,280
Speaker 3: Is it good?

1742
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:37,559
Speaker 1: Well, I feel pretty good.

1743
01:27:37,600 --> 01:27:40,519
Speaker 24: I just think, yeah, I you don't want to just

1744
01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 24: assume you're going to be able to throw or not

1745
01:27:43,280 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 24: really know. So I think I wanted. I definitely wanted

1746
01:27:46,880 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 24: to be able to go out there at some point

1747
01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,400
Speaker 24: this week and and and feel good about what was

1748
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:50,760
Speaker 24: going on.

1749
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:52,160
Speaker 10: I think that's all I was.

1750
01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,560
Speaker 3: That is Joe Flacco with the media earlier today. So

1751
01:27:56,680 --> 01:28:00,320
Speaker 3: basically seems to me like Joe Flacco was, let's give

1752
01:28:00,360 --> 01:28:03,360
Speaker 3: it the extra day on Wednesday to get the treatment,

1753
01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:07,200
Speaker 3: see how it feels Thursday, Let's throw on Thursday, Let's

1754
01:28:07,240 --> 01:28:11,600
Speaker 3: see how it recovers Friday and Saturday. Sounds to me

1755
01:28:12,120 --> 01:28:14,479
Speaker 3: like Joe Flacco is going to be the starting quarterback

1756
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,320
Speaker 3: for the Bengals on Sunday. We'll ask Charlie Goldsmith his

1757
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:22,560
Speaker 3: read on things, and Charlie usually has a unique perspective,

1758
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 3: But Charlie's going to join us in about ten minutes

1759
01:28:26,640 --> 01:28:29,960
Speaker 3: from right now. But it does feel like Joe Flacco,

1760
01:28:30,160 --> 01:28:34,000
Speaker 3: with that ac joint sprain in his throwing shoulder, is

1761
01:28:34,160 --> 01:28:39,240
Speaker 3: going to be able to go on Sunday. I'm surprised

1762
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 3: by that. I did not think that that was going

1763
01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:44,640
Speaker 3: to happen. Did not seem to me like it was

1764
01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:48,560
Speaker 3: really a possibility, to be completely honest with you, But

1765
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:52,040
Speaker 3: the way that he talked today and all of that

1766
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:57,160
Speaker 3: seems to basically lean in the direction of he's going

1767
01:28:57,240 --> 01:28:58,000
Speaker 3: to play on Sunday.

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01:28:58,360 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 29: And I.

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Speaker 3: I think the reason that is is because you don't

1770
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:08,479
Speaker 3: really have a choice. We've talked about it seemingly at

1771
01:29:08,600 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 3: nauseum that the quarterback play with Jake Browning was so

1772
01:29:14,200 --> 01:29:18,960
Speaker 3: bad you had no other choice but to go after

1773
01:29:19,280 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 3: another guy, and it happened to be Joe Flacco. And

1774
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:25,080
Speaker 3: we've all been, I think pleasantly surprised by the way

1775
01:29:25,200 --> 01:29:28,880
Speaker 3: Flacco has performed and the life and the juice that

1776
01:29:29,000 --> 01:29:33,600
Speaker 3: he's inserted into the offense. But you also know what

1777
01:29:33,800 --> 01:29:36,000
Speaker 3: could be waiting in the wings if he's won play away.

1778
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 3: That's what makes me nervous about this game on Sunday.

1779
01:29:41,240 --> 01:29:43,599
Speaker 3: If the Bears are able to get after Joe Flacco,

1780
01:29:43,680 --> 01:29:45,879
Speaker 3: if he gets sacked, if he lands on that shoulder,

1781
01:29:46,400 --> 01:29:49,000
Speaker 3: does he make it worse? And then is it really over?

1782
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:53,120
Speaker 3: But at the same time, this is basically their last stand.

1783
01:29:53,800 --> 01:29:57,679
Speaker 3: This game is their last stand because if they find

1784
01:29:57,720 --> 01:29:59,560
Speaker 3: a way to beat the Bears at home, they go

1785
01:29:59,640 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 3: into the at four and five, and your first game

1786
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,479
Speaker 3: out of the by is Pittsburgh with a chance to

1787
01:30:05,520 --> 01:30:08,720
Speaker 3: go three to zero in the AFC North and then

1788
01:30:08,800 --> 01:30:10,920
Speaker 3: get back to five hundred. So if that's the case,

1789
01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:15,160
Speaker 3: you can at least be in the conversation. You don't

1790
01:30:15,240 --> 01:30:19,599
Speaker 3: get there without beating the Chicago Bears. And my personal

1791
01:30:19,680 --> 01:30:23,200
Speaker 3: opinion is that the season ended the way they lost

1792
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:25,519
Speaker 3: to the Jets, I don't see them being able to

1793
01:30:25,560 --> 01:30:27,560
Speaker 3: come back from that. They could go on one of

1794
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 3: those runs like they did at the end of last year,

1795
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:33,000
Speaker 3: and I wouldn't be surprised if it was just too little,

1796
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 3: too late, missed the game, missed the playoffs by a

1797
01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:38,840
Speaker 3: game again, wouldn't surprise me at all. The goal the

1798
01:30:38,920 --> 01:30:42,000
Speaker 3: Bengals have is trying to buy time for Joe Burrow

1799
01:30:42,040 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 3: to get back. The unfortunate reality there is it doesn't

1800
01:30:45,520 --> 01:30:48,240
Speaker 3: matter if Joe Burrow comes back or not because of

1801
01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:51,720
Speaker 3: how bad the defense is. I don't know if they're

1802
01:30:51,720 --> 01:30:54,559
Speaker 3: going to be able to find anything with this defense,

1803
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,120
Speaker 3: and we'll get into that a little bit at the

1804
01:30:56,680 --> 01:31:02,920
Speaker 3: after Charlie Goldsmith. But the idea of Flacco playing is

1805
01:31:04,120 --> 01:31:06,759
Speaker 3: in line with the rest of the decisions the Bengals

1806
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:11,360
Speaker 3: are making, which is it reeks of desperation. The way

1807
01:31:11,439 --> 01:31:15,960
Speaker 3: I see it, it is just completely desperate. Every decision

1808
01:31:15,960 --> 01:31:20,720
Speaker 3: they're making, every move they're making, every the way they

1809
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:25,200
Speaker 3: approach everything is they are doing anything possible to be competitive.

1810
01:31:26,240 --> 01:31:28,760
Speaker 3: I respect that. I have a lot of respect for that.

1811
01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:32,080
Speaker 3: I think there's a couple of potential reasons for that

1812
01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:34,400
Speaker 3: that we'll get into in the third hour. But this game,

1813
01:31:34,520 --> 01:31:39,560
Speaker 3: make no mistake, is their last stand. They have no

1814
01:31:39,720 --> 01:31:44,040
Speaker 3: other options, and if they lose it, they come out

1815
01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 3: of the buy. And I think it might be Jake

1816
01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:52,360
Speaker 3: Browning or Sean Clifford or anybody else if they lose

1817
01:31:52,840 --> 01:31:56,200
Speaker 3: to the Chicago Bears, because the start looking towards next year,

1818
01:31:57,200 --> 01:32:01,800
Speaker 3: it would be unfortunate. But until that's reality, I don't

1819
01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:04,680
Speaker 3: think we need to address that part of the conversation yet,

1820
01:32:04,760 --> 01:32:08,280
Speaker 3: so we'll see how it goes. But Trey Henderson Logan

1821
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:11,599
Speaker 3: Wilson both gonna be listed as doubtful. According to Zach

1822
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:15,439
Speaker 3: Taylor when he spoke briefly with the media after practice.

1823
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:18,759
Speaker 3: Those guys obviously have not practiced this week. Logan Wilson

1824
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:22,240
Speaker 3: came to practice late today. He's dealing with a calf injury.

1825
01:32:22,400 --> 01:32:24,439
Speaker 3: Also an hour three, we do have a little bit

1826
01:32:24,479 --> 01:32:29,080
Speaker 3: of audio from you from or for you from Logan

1827
01:32:29,120 --> 01:32:32,600
Speaker 3: Wilson's podcast. Yes, he has a podcast. He and his

1828
01:32:32,720 --> 01:32:35,599
Speaker 3: wife do a podcast, and he talked about his trade request.

1829
01:32:36,560 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 3: Joe Flacca will be officially listed as questionable, and Zach

1830
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,360
Speaker 3: Taylor used one of his favorite phrases, which is we'll

1831
01:32:44,479 --> 01:32:48,360
Speaker 3: see when referring to Flacco. Jake Browning took all the

1832
01:32:48,439 --> 01:32:52,400
Speaker 3: reps Wednesday and today. He's fully ready to go if needed,

1833
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 3: but Trey and Logan Wilson will likely be doubtful. Keep

1834
01:32:56,920 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 3: in mind the Bengals still have a couple more roster

1835
01:33:00,439 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 3: spots available. We'll also talk to Charlie about that, and

1836
01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:07,400
Speaker 3: about McKinley, Jackson and so much more. That's all coming

1837
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,360
Speaker 3: up in the third and final hour, which is coming

1838
01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,400
Speaker 3: up next right here on the Friday Football Frenzy on

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1844
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1845
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Speaker 3: Hi, Hello, welcome in our number three of Tony Pike's

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Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy here on ESPN fifteen thirty. My name

1860
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1861
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1862
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1863
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Speaker 3: hear them down the dial this weekend. In the meantime,

1864
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Speaker 3: we flipped are one o'clock and two o'clock. Guess where

1865
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:05,639
Speaker 3: we normally have them. We flipped them today, which means

1866
01:35:05,680 --> 01:35:09,680
Speaker 3: our guy, Charlie Goldsmith joins me now here at the

1867
01:35:10,160 --> 01:35:13,759
Speaker 3: start of the third hour on the Friday Football Frenzy. Hi, Charlie,

1868
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:14,120
Speaker 3: how are you?

1869
01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:15,800
Speaker 9: Hi?

1870
01:35:15,800 --> 01:35:16,400
Speaker 10: You doing often?

1871
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,000
Speaker 3: You know what I'm doing, all right. I think a

1872
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,519
Speaker 3: lot of Bengals fans feel a little bit better based

1873
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:25,599
Speaker 3: off of what Joe Flacco had to say earlier today.

1874
01:35:25,720 --> 01:35:28,240
Speaker 3: Do you get the feeling that he's gonna play on Sunday?

1875
01:35:30,280 --> 01:35:33,519
Speaker 10: I think that's more likely than not. I feel pretty

1876
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:36,040
Speaker 10: good about what I saw from Flacco throwing the ball,

1877
01:35:36,200 --> 01:35:38,559
Speaker 10: what I saw from him throwing the ball yesterday, kind

1878
01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:42,000
Speaker 10: of from the tone around the building today. But just frankly,

1879
01:35:42,080 --> 01:35:45,000
Speaker 10: it's a forty year old quarterback with the shoulder issue.

1880
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:47,360
Speaker 10: We'll see how he feels on Sunday. We'll see how

1881
01:35:47,400 --> 01:35:49,720
Speaker 10: he feels going throughout the game. We'll see how he

1882
01:35:49,800 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 10: feels when he tries to rip the ball down the

1883
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:55,080
Speaker 10: fields for the first time. There's a lot of unknowns here.

1884
01:35:55,160 --> 01:35:57,320
Speaker 10: There's probably a lot of soreness that Flaco has been

1885
01:35:57,360 --> 01:36:00,880
Speaker 10: dealing with behind the scenes as well. The Bengals know

1886
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:04,280
Speaker 10: they need Slacko. Flaco is well. He you know, a

1887
01:36:04,320 --> 01:36:06,760
Speaker 10: lotsman said, he easily could have just pushed it back

1888
01:36:06,840 --> 01:36:09,800
Speaker 10: and taken the bye week and moved forward. He's given

1889
01:36:09,840 --> 01:36:11,080
Speaker 10: it a shot here, and I give him a lot

1890
01:36:11,080 --> 01:36:11,640
Speaker 10: of respect for that.

1891
01:36:12,360 --> 01:36:14,760
Speaker 3: I've said this week that I think the Bengals need

1892
01:36:14,880 --> 01:36:20,360
Speaker 3: to do a better job of sustaining drives and running

1893
01:36:20,400 --> 01:36:23,880
Speaker 3: the football and keeping their own defense off the field.

1894
01:36:24,520 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 3: That's easier said than done when you have the weapons

1895
01:36:27,160 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 3: that Zach Taylor has. Do you think a Flacco shoulder

1896
01:36:31,160 --> 01:36:33,680
Speaker 3: injury would cause them to kind of lean into that

1897
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:37,000
Speaker 3: run game and time a possession game a little bit more.

1898
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 10: Probably the screen game would be another element of that

1899
01:36:41,840 --> 01:36:44,920
Speaker 10: as well. You also look at it being a Bears

1900
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 10: team that's so susceptible at cornerback, well, you probably still

1901
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,599
Speaker 10: do need to take advantage of opportunities down the field

1902
01:36:52,680 --> 01:36:54,400
Speaker 10: to get the most out of your potential game plan

1903
01:36:54,520 --> 01:36:57,599
Speaker 10: from that game. But the screen game and the run

1904
01:36:57,640 --> 01:36:59,960
Speaker 10: game really were the foundation of what they did again

1905
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 10: and subjects when Flackle is healthy. A lot of that

1906
01:37:02,720 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 10: was just for pure game plan reasons. But if you're

1907
01:37:06,120 --> 01:37:09,479
Speaker 10: running the ball, well, then you definitely ride that hot

1908
01:37:09,560 --> 01:37:12,840
Speaker 10: hand and adjust that way. But going in, I don't

1909
01:37:12,880 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 10: think one way or another they'll try to significantly change

1910
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:17,519
Speaker 10: the way they feel like they have to play.

1911
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 3: Has there been anything noticeably different this week from what

1912
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:25,920
Speaker 3: you can tell about the way the Bengals defense has

1913
01:37:26,280 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 3: gone about practice or tackling, or preparing or meeting. Is

1914
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,200
Speaker 3: there anything that stands out to you that might be

1915
01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,400
Speaker 3: different as they search for answers.

1916
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:39,000
Speaker 10: Talking to DJ Turner and Geno Stone, I think they're

1917
01:37:39,040 --> 01:37:41,960
Speaker 10: really trying to be some of the guys who take

1918
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,400
Speaker 10: the message and step up. I think when you look

1919
01:37:44,439 --> 01:37:46,760
Speaker 10: kind of big picture to Jordan Battle and Barrett Carter

1920
01:37:47,320 --> 01:37:49,720
Speaker 10: and Demetrious not as well. But I give a lot

1921
01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 10: of credit to battle and Carter being potential long term

1922
01:37:52,800 --> 01:37:56,040
Speaker 10: leaders of this defense, but as a whole, not really.

1923
01:37:56,320 --> 01:37:59,920
Speaker 10: You know, Al Golden already is such a I'm not saying,

1924
01:38:00,160 --> 01:38:04,000
Speaker 10: are like unbelievable, you know, Bill Belichick qualities, but he's

1925
01:38:04,320 --> 01:38:06,760
Speaker 10: he's always so fired up and so intense, and so

1926
01:38:07,320 --> 01:38:11,120
Speaker 10: he's always on the move somewhere. Literally, he's always going

1927
01:38:11,160 --> 01:38:13,400
Speaker 10: a million miles per hour. He always has a lot

1928
01:38:13,400 --> 01:38:15,519
Speaker 10: of urgency. And again, we don't know how good of

1929
01:38:15,560 --> 01:38:19,400
Speaker 10: a defensive coordinator he is. But I've seen no difference

1930
01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,720
Speaker 10: in Al this week because that's just who Al kind

1931
01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:26,160
Speaker 10: of always is. He's kind of always operating like he

1932
01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,599
Speaker 10: just allowed thirty eight thirty nine points to the Jets.

1933
01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,920
Speaker 10: That's kind of his personality. So I haven't felt anything

1934
01:38:32,080 --> 01:38:35,080
Speaker 10: too crazy different in terms of tone being set.

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Speaker 3: Do you think that it should be different, like, I mean,

1936
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Speaker 3: I know a lot of fans are fed up. Does

1937
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Speaker 3: it feel like in the past, like this is a

1938
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Speaker 3: time where things should be different or it would feel different,

1939
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Speaker 3: or do they really subscribe to the idea of just

1940
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Speaker 3: keep doing what you're doing and it'll work.

1941
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Speaker 10: Out any better players man, And here we are in

1942
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Speaker 10: Week eight and they're not there yet. I think that's

1943
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Speaker 10: part of the hope with the Barrett Carter move is,

1944
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Speaker 10: like I said, I'm just I couldn't be more impressed

1945
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Speaker 10: just with the intangible qualities that he brings to the table. Now,

1946
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Speaker 10: the problem is he might not be the highest upside linebacker,

1947
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Speaker 10: but Barrett Carter has a lot of that. Now. Ideally,

1948
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Speaker 10: you know, that's a change that helps create a spark

1949
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Speaker 10: and the mentality and the mood of the defense by

1950
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Speaker 10: putting him in there more. But other than that, there

1951
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Speaker 10: aren't many more levels to play. This is kind of

1952
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Speaker 10: just who they are, and it's concerning and that's why

1953
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Speaker 10: the whole you know, everyone's kind of spent the week

1954
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Speaker 10: externally freaking out about the state of the Angles team.

1955
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Speaker 3: Well, you talk about them needing better players. One of

1956
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Speaker 3: the players that I felt like kind of deserved a

1957
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Speaker 3: chance was McKinley Jackson. He has now requested a trade.

1958
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Speaker 3: What do you think is the main reason for this?

1959
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Speaker 3: Is it coming out of the players meeting? Is it

1960
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Speaker 3: because he's still not the guy who's gonna get a

1961
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Speaker 3: chance instead of Jordan Jefferson. How do you explain the

1962
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Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson situation.

1963
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Speaker 10: Mckimny Jackson. I want to start here because you mentioned

1964
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Speaker 10: kind of the optimism heading into the year. I've been

1965
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Speaker 10: thinking of how to say this. I'll say it like this.

1966
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Speaker 10: If Barrett Carter has a second half of this season

1967
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Speaker 10: like McKinley Jackson had to end twenty twenty four, I

1968
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Speaker 10: think he'd be feeling pretty good. And I say that

1969
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Speaker 10: to say like he had momentum, real moments of heading

1970
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Speaker 10: into twenty twenty five in the year two, and then

1971
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Speaker 10: by the third week of training camp he was behind

1972
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Speaker 10: Howard Cross and Eric gregor a on the depth charts.

1973
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Speaker 10: And I remember some people talking to some people around

1974
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Speaker 10: here about that and how much of an aun alarming

1975
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Speaker 10: concerning development that was his attention to detail his effort,

1976
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Speaker 10: not his effort, but just what he does play to

1977
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Speaker 10: play hasn't been there. Heck, you know, Jerry Montgomery even

1978
01:40:39,720 --> 01:40:42,120
Speaker 10: told me to have a good play and then the

1979
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Speaker 10: next four plays you're just not seeing what you want

1980
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Speaker 10: out of him. So that led to a guy they

1981
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Speaker 10: couldn't feel like they could trust. And the fact that

1982
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Speaker 10: that's a third round pick who's now played six naps

1983
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Speaker 10: through the first half of the second season is just

1984
01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:57,599
Speaker 10: a massive massive, massive disappointment that I'm sure Jackson's frustrated about,

1985
01:40:57,640 --> 01:41:00,479
Speaker 10: but he's not going anywhere. He's going to a chance

1986
01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:03,160
Speaker 10: at some point, even if Jefferson's ahead of him right now,

1987
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Speaker 10: like we'll see him. That's been the message kind of

1988
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Speaker 10: coming from, coming from kind of up top back. Just

1989
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Speaker 10: talked to us as well, like you're a second year player,

1990
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Speaker 10: just work and that's how they see this thing going.

1991
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Speaker 3: I was gonna say, who do you think are some

1992
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Speaker 3: guys that will get chances moving forward? You mentioned McKinley

1993
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Speaker 3: and Jordan Jefferson. Could we expect to see Cedric Johnson

1994
01:41:23,600 --> 01:41:25,880
Speaker 3: this week? Especially with Trey Hendrickson out, How do you

1995
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Speaker 3: you know who were the next group of guys on

1996
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Speaker 3: that defense they're gonna get more of a chance.

1997
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Speaker 10: Another problem, there isn't that tier. There isn't that group.

1998
01:41:36,200 --> 01:41:38,960
Speaker 10: There isn't that break lids in case of emergency. We

1999
01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:41,479
Speaker 10: saw it with Derek Carter. I think we're gonna see

2000
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Speaker 10: said Johnson as soon as this week. Definitely at some point.

2001
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Speaker 10: Just he I call him a good chaser, that's kind

2002
01:41:47,760 --> 01:41:50,360
Speaker 10: of a style of edge that he is. But he's

2003
01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:52,720
Speaker 10: not changing this pass rush based off everything that I've

2004
01:41:52,760 --> 01:41:55,679
Speaker 10: seen from him so far. Now, ideally he takes that leap,

2005
01:41:55,760 --> 01:41:57,680
Speaker 10: but I don't know that he's coming in here to

2006
01:41:57,720 --> 01:42:00,600
Speaker 10: save the season. And then the linebacker to where they are,

2007
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:05,600
Speaker 10: and then the corners man corners. I was very frustrated

2008
01:42:05,640 --> 01:42:09,200
Speaker 10: by the game that Cam Taylor Britt played on Sunday

2009
01:42:09,240 --> 01:42:11,360
Speaker 10: against the Jets. He had a great first play and

2010
01:42:11,439 --> 01:42:13,400
Speaker 10: give him credit for some of the physical stuff he did,

2011
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,920
Speaker 10: but there was a bad communication, there was a play

2012
01:42:15,960 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 10: where he got lost, there were the penalties. But is

2013
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 10: he still going to be a starter because that's your

2014
01:42:21,360 --> 01:42:24,839
Speaker 10: best three man combination because Josh Stunton Steed, his ability

2015
01:42:24,920 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 10: to just stick and win on the outside isn't what

2016
01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:31,360
Speaker 10: you need. Maybe like it's all what it is. It's

2017
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:34,200
Speaker 10: PG Jewels and Tyson Anderson as your backup safeties, and

2018
01:42:34,320 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 10: it's just a poorly assembled roster, poorly you know, poor

2019
01:42:39,240 --> 01:42:42,720
Speaker 10: draft decisions. It's all come to fruition here for a

2020
01:42:42,720 --> 01:42:44,400
Speaker 10: Bengals team that isn't anywhere near good enough.

2021
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,000
Speaker 3: Talking to Charlie Goldsmith, contributor for Fox nineteen. You can

2022
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Speaker 3: also read his work on a sub stack Charlie's Chalkboard,

2023
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Speaker 3: which I just saw over I believe twenty five hundred subscribers.

2024
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Speaker 3: Is that right, Charlie, congratulations, thanks man, twenty five hundred. Yeah,

2025
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Speaker 3: and then that's a big deal. Now let's talk about

2026
01:43:02,960 --> 01:43:06,600
Speaker 3: this game coming up Sunday. You mentioned some of the

2027
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Speaker 3: matchups or some of the things you might be paying

2028
01:43:08,400 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 3: attention to. What's in your mind where this game is

2029
01:43:11,439 --> 01:43:13,920
Speaker 3: won and lost when it comes to the actual matchup

2030
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Speaker 3: between the Bears and the Bengals.

2031
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Speaker 10: Here's the thing, man, it doesn't even matter. You know,

2032
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,120
Speaker 10: they great matchups against the Jets, and they couldn't tackle.

2033
01:43:21,680 --> 01:43:24,880
Speaker 10: They had the perfect play calls that are perfect designs,

2034
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:27,760
Speaker 10: and here comes Jordan's battle up on a blitz and

2035
01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:31,040
Speaker 10: he hesitates. Oh, you have a great matchup where Barrett

2036
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,679
Speaker 10: Carter gets free fill in the gap and he slips

2037
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 10: and he whiffs. Like, to me, this defense isn't even

2038
01:43:36,600 --> 01:43:39,680
Speaker 10: at the point where it becomes matchup specific. It's at

2039
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:42,920
Speaker 10: the point where is there any sort of reliability inconsistency

2040
01:43:43,320 --> 01:43:45,960
Speaker 10: in terms of the way these guys play. And then offensively,

2041
01:43:46,439 --> 01:43:49,720
Speaker 10: you know, you can look at the Bear's corners for

2042
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:54,839
Speaker 10: this underperforming in Chicago. But still, what's Joe Flacco's arms situation?

2043
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,640
Speaker 10: Like how much is he going to be able to

2044
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 10: push the ball down the field? Do the Bears a

2045
01:43:58,439 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 10: bandon what they do anyway and dare Flacco to beat

2046
01:44:01,360 --> 01:44:04,280
Speaker 10: them deep? Like this team isn't at the point yet

2047
01:44:04,560 --> 01:44:07,519
Speaker 10: where you're looking at specific game. The game mats up

2048
01:44:07,560 --> 01:44:08,800
Speaker 10: stuff with where they're at.

2049
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Speaker 3: I'm not trying to be positive for the sake of

2050
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:14,720
Speaker 3: being positive, but do you feel like there are any

2051
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:15,720
Speaker 3: positives right now?

2052
01:44:16,960 --> 01:44:20,719
Speaker 10: That means I'm glad you asked that what this offense

2053
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:26,880
Speaker 10: has done has been absolutely remarkable. I think Zach's biggest

2054
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,080
Speaker 10: flaw of the head coach has been that he's never

2055
01:44:29,160 --> 01:44:31,400
Speaker 10: been quite able to impact the defense to the level

2056
01:44:31,439 --> 01:44:33,960
Speaker 10: that a head coach needs to. But I think this

2057
01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:37,719
Speaker 10: last stretch has been the best offensive coaching of Zach's career.

2058
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Speaker 10: When you look at Flacco, you look at the run game,

2059
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:42,439
Speaker 10: you look at what they've done without much receiver depth,

2060
01:44:42,800 --> 01:44:45,439
Speaker 10: with a tight end room that's being held together by

2061
01:44:45,520 --> 01:44:48,040
Speaker 10: tooth picks and blue. The way they taught Flacco the

2062
01:44:48,080 --> 01:44:50,959
Speaker 10: offense on the fly, the way that Zach led that process,

2063
01:44:51,400 --> 01:44:54,240
Speaker 10: the way that a building full of quarterback coaches got

2064
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 10: a quarterback ready to play at an unbelievably impressive level.

2065
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Speaker 10: The fact that Joe Flacco' twenty fifth to thirtieth best

2066
01:45:01,600 --> 01:45:03,439
Speaker 10: quarterback in the league, let's tell it what it is,

2067
01:45:03,920 --> 01:45:08,560
Speaker 10: and he's playing like a top ten guy is absolutely unbelievable,

2068
01:45:09,160 --> 01:45:11,200
Speaker 10: and that should be the story that should be where

2069
01:45:11,200 --> 01:45:15,120
Speaker 10: they're at. Jamar Chase is like twenty five percent better

2070
01:45:15,200 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 10: than he was last season, and they reworked their entire

2071
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:21,320
Speaker 10: screen game to unlock even more ways to get him

2072
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:24,240
Speaker 10: the ball and beat double teams. I could not say

2073
01:45:24,360 --> 01:45:27,840
Speaker 10: enough positive things about how these Bengals have trended offensively.

2074
01:45:28,240 --> 01:45:29,880
Speaker 10: The line has played really well.

2075
01:45:29,960 --> 01:45:31,880
Speaker 3: Yes, over the last couple of weeks.

2076
01:45:31,760 --> 01:45:34,120
Speaker 10: Like there is a lot on that side of the

2077
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 10: ball that's playoff caliber, even with not Joe Burrow at quarterback,

2078
01:45:40,200 --> 01:45:42,360
Speaker 10: but there are three and five minutes.

2079
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:42,880
Speaker 9: Because of their defense.

2080
01:45:43,160 --> 01:45:45,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're exactly right, And then that's a good point.

2081
01:45:46,080 --> 01:45:48,560
Speaker 3: Tony talked a lot this week about t Higgins and

2082
01:45:48,760 --> 01:45:51,280
Speaker 3: just doing something to get the ball in his hands

2083
01:45:51,320 --> 01:45:54,760
Speaker 3: a little bit more frequently, only the two targets on

2084
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:57,800
Speaker 3: Sunday against the Jets. Do you expect that Higgins will

2085
01:45:57,800 --> 01:45:59,360
Speaker 3: be a big part of the game plan just to

2086
01:45:59,400 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 3: try to get him going against the Bears.

2087
01:46:02,880 --> 01:46:04,960
Speaker 10: Yeah, assuming Flac I can rip it, of course, But

2088
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,240
Speaker 10: the way I saw it against the Jets was really

2089
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:09,720
Speaker 10: no one was getting the ball down the field at all.

2090
01:46:10,520 --> 01:46:12,760
Speaker 10: You had a couple of designer plays for Jamorrow, which

2091
01:46:12,800 --> 01:46:15,120
Speaker 10: of course you run your plays for Jamar, but then

2092
01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:17,320
Speaker 10: you had your screens to Jamar. You had like the

2093
01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:19,960
Speaker 10: under center flats and leak that they ran to know

2094
01:46:20,040 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 10: a fans. A couple of times, the running backs got

2095
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:24,680
Speaker 10: a couple of targets, and that was it until the

2096
01:46:24,800 --> 01:46:27,880
Speaker 10: Jets changed their whole plan early in the fourth quarter

2097
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:30,840
Speaker 10: and started doing double double on Tea and Jamar, And

2098
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:34,360
Speaker 10: that was the only time where Yoshi just got his target. So, now,

2099
01:46:34,439 --> 01:46:37,240
Speaker 10: can you take a couple of those Jamar designer plays

2100
01:46:37,760 --> 01:46:39,840
Speaker 10: and pass them over to Tea. I think that's probably

2101
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 10: the move because he doesn't need two targets now. One

2102
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:47,000
Speaker 10: of them, of course, an explosive touchdown a terrific play

2103
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:51,600
Speaker 10: by him. But it's not like they were running this shotgun,

2104
01:46:52,120 --> 01:46:54,360
Speaker 10: you know, spread the ball over the field offense and

2105
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:57,519
Speaker 10: ignoring t They were kind of doing a whole different

2106
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 10: style of plan against the Jets, and it did work

2107
01:47:01,280 --> 01:47:03,960
Speaker 10: for most of the game until the Jets adjusted down

2108
01:47:04,000 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 10: the stretch.

2109
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Speaker 3: The Bengals haven't hesitated to play the young guys this year,

2110
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:12,200
Speaker 3: including Mitchell Tinsley. You mentioned Andro Yoshavash, he struggled. Do

2111
01:47:12,280 --> 01:47:15,080
Speaker 3: you think we'll see more Tinsley over Yoshavash at all

2112
01:47:15,160 --> 01:47:15,479
Speaker 3: this week?

2113
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Speaker 10: I think you could see those snapcounts get closer together,

2114
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:22,120
Speaker 10: like in the same way that like Chase Brown and

2115
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:25,479
Speaker 10: some a JP Ryan snapcounts have gotten closer together. But

2116
01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:29,640
Speaker 10: Yoshi knows the offense so well. He did make a

2117
01:47:29,680 --> 01:47:32,400
Speaker 10: lot of plays against I believe the Lions and then

2118
01:47:32,439 --> 01:47:38,000
Speaker 10: of course the Steelers as well. He hasn't lost that credibility,

2119
01:47:38,120 --> 01:47:40,720
Speaker 10: that trust that he has. He needs to get open better.

2120
01:47:40,800 --> 01:47:43,479
Speaker 10: We all know that they know that. Also, just like

2121
01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 10: we're saying about the defense, you know, it's not like

2122
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,439
Speaker 10: Charlie Jones or Jermaine Burton are the answer right now,

2123
01:47:48,880 --> 01:47:51,400
Speaker 10: and Tinsley probably isn't as much of a slot player,

2124
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:54,360
Speaker 10: so they they're on a ton of wrinkles that they

2125
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,280
Speaker 10: could throw at you. But I still like Yoshi a

2126
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,320
Speaker 10: lot of the player, and I think think his especially

2127
01:48:01,560 --> 01:48:04,720
Speaker 10: versatility is kind of the key that allows them to

2128
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:07,439
Speaker 10: move Jamar as much as they do before the snap,

2129
01:48:07,479 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 10: and if you take Yoshi out, you're really limiting your

2130
01:48:10,080 --> 01:48:12,240
Speaker 10: ability to do that, and you don't want to do that.

2131
01:48:12,600 --> 01:48:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's interesting. I want to follow up with the

2132
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:18,040
Speaker 3: previous comment you made about this being some of the

2133
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Speaker 3: most impressive coaching of Zach's career. Throughout this stretch, we've

2134
01:48:22,960 --> 01:48:25,679
Speaker 3: kind of brought up the idea of Joe Flacco being

2135
01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:28,679
Speaker 3: good for Joe Burrow and those two kind of being

2136
01:48:28,720 --> 01:48:31,479
Speaker 3: good for each other. Do you think, as you prepared

2137
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:33,880
Speaker 3: for this week and the idea of maybe Jake Browning

2138
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:36,840
Speaker 3: playing on Sunday, do you think Joe Flacco has been

2139
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,080
Speaker 3: good for Jake Browning? Do you think there's been any

2140
01:48:39,200 --> 01:48:41,519
Speaker 3: progress for Jake during this stretch as well?

2141
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Speaker 10: Everyone said all the right things about Jake and he

2142
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,680
Speaker 10: got the chance to reset at the end of the day.

2143
01:48:48,720 --> 01:48:50,960
Speaker 10: You just don't know until you're back out there in

2144
01:48:51,040 --> 01:48:53,400
Speaker 10: the lights. Hech Jake. You know, let's go down a

2145
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:57,040
Speaker 10: theoretical here. Flacco finishes this season until Burrow returns whenever,

2146
01:48:57,680 --> 01:48:59,760
Speaker 10: and then you go into the off season and then

2147
01:49:00,240 --> 01:49:03,160
Speaker 10: just save Browning comes in and has an unbelievable training

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Speaker 10: camp in preseason in twenty twenty six. Well, to me,

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Speaker 10: he's still going to have to earn kind of the

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Speaker 10: credibility and what is he going to do and how

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Speaker 10: is he going to operate when the lights are on now?

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Speaker 10: He was unbelievable at that in twenty three when you

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Speaker 10: look at the confidence that clearly got evaporated out of

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Speaker 10: him when he was in there. This season, he has

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Speaker 10: to earn that again in my mind. But I've got

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Speaker 10: a ton of respect for Jake Browning. He has handled

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Speaker 10: this very well. He's still been very engaged. From what

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Speaker 10: I've been told.

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Speaker 3: He did a good job doing his job.

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Speaker 10: And operating practice on Wednesday and on Friday. So great

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Speaker 10: things to say about Browning, who I think separately has

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Speaker 10: a long coaching career. Whenever he's done was football, But

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Speaker 10: as we saw with him a few weeks ago, when

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Speaker 10: the lights are on, it's just different and he needs

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Speaker 10: to kind of prove that again.

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Speaker 3: Before I let you go, I want to ask you

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Speaker 3: a baseball question. I know you had posted earlier this

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Speaker 3: morning that you know the offseason basically could start tonight

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Speaker 3: if the Blue Jays are able to finish off the Dodgers.

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Speaker 3: What do you think is something reds fans should be

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Speaker 3: paying attention to over the next couple of weeks as

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Speaker 3: we get into the offseason as maybe the first indicator

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Speaker 3: of what the plan could be for the offseason.

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Speaker 10: I think the biggest thing in something I'm going to

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Speaker 10: try to get a feel for out in the out

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Speaker 10: in Las Vegas at the GM Meeting a couple of

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Speaker 10: weeks is in the week and a half is last

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Speaker 10: year there were two sellers in all of baseball and

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Speaker 10: the Reds had to get very creative from a trade perspective,

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Speaker 10: Fernando Cruz for Jose Trevino, India for Singer a couple.

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Speaker 20: Others like that.

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Speaker 10: It's got luck where they traded prospects to the Dodgers.

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Speaker 10: Are there more sellers this year with good players who

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Speaker 10: the Reds could go out and get because those guys

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Speaker 10: weren't available last season. Do the Reds have that opportunity

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Speaker 10: be a trade that they didn't have last offseason or

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Speaker 10: is it another year really without any true sellers where

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Speaker 10: the Reds are going to try to have to get

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Speaker 10: creative again and also kind of run back the same team.

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Speaker 10: That's my big question with the Reds.

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Speaker 3: The other thing, too is the relievers and where the

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Speaker 3: Reds are at right now with the amount of relievers

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Speaker 3: that they don't have on the roster, and I remember

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Speaker 3: last year at the trade deadline, the price for relievers

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Speaker 3: was crazy in terms of in exchange for relievers. Do

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Speaker 3: you think that also goes into the free agents where

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Speaker 3: the price of relief pitching will continue to go up?

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Speaker 3: And if so, do you think the Reds will then

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Speaker 3: have to spend most of their quote unquote budget on

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Speaker 3: that position.

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Speaker 10: I think the answer to that might be yes. But

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Speaker 10: just because they don't have a ton to work with,

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Speaker 10: you know, it's not like they're going to be going

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Speaker 10: out and getting a star closer and a seventh inning guy.

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Speaker 10: You know, that's just not realistic. That's a payroll conversation

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Speaker 10: for another day. But if they have a limited pool,

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01:51:49,600 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 10: you know, getting the next you know, Amelio Pegan, the

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Speaker 10: next Scott Barlow, and the next print suitor, that could

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Speaker 10: be fifteen to twenty million dollars of a budget. I'm

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Speaker 10: not going to put a number on, but that's a

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Speaker 10: significant part of the chunk the Reds have to do

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Speaker 10: a great job this year of finding finding like an

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Speaker 10: NFL draft would you know, not the Bengals, but you

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01:52:14,960 --> 01:52:17,800
Speaker 10: know your Chase Browns, You're andre Jo sabashas in the

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01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:21,559
Speaker 10: reliever market because those players are there. They are every

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01:52:21,680 --> 01:52:24,960
Speaker 10: year while the reliever market was insane at the deadline

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Speaker 10: and always cooled down during the offseason. That's just how

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01:52:28,160 --> 01:52:31,080
Speaker 10: it goes. You have to kind of be able to

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01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:37,040
Speaker 10: be strategic and savvy with your player identification and evaluation.

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Speaker 10: That's a long conversation that we could have another time,

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01:52:40,439 --> 01:52:41,679
Speaker 10: but a very interesting market.

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Speaker 3: Good stuff, Charlie. Really appreciate you making it work for

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Speaker 3: me today. What are you working on and where can

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Speaker 3: people find what you're working on?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I have a story up on Flacco today at

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Speaker 10: Charlie's Shockboard in Fox nineteen.

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Speaker 3: All right, awesome, Charlie, have a great weekend.

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Speaker 6: Man.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you next week. Thanks at that is

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Speaker 3: Charlie Goldsmith substack Charlie' Chalkboard over twenty five hundred followers.

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01:53:05,160 --> 01:53:07,479
Speaker 3: It's a big time for Charlie's one of our best

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01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:10,679
Speaker 3: friends and a huge part of our show here on Friday.

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Speaker 3: So thankful that even though it was a little bit

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01:53:12,960 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 3: later than normal, we were able to make it work

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01:53:15,560 --> 01:53:18,280
Speaker 3: with Charlie. We'll take a break, We'll come back. I

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01:53:18,439 --> 01:53:22,200
Speaker 3: see this Bengals situation as one of two things happening.

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Speaker 3: I'll explain when we get back. This is the Friday

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Speaker 3: Football Frenzy right here on the home of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty. Now your chance to win a

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Speaker 3: thousand up.

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Speaker 25: This is Dan Horde joined Dave Lapham and me this

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Speaker 25: afternoon at three for Bengals pep Rally on the official

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01:53:37,640 --> 01:53:41,120
Speaker 25: home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 7: This is Football in the NATI, brought to you in

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Speaker 7: part by Postman Law and Vice Skyline Chilly on ESPN

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Speaker 7: fifteen thirty to the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 3: That's right, we get a bonus Football in the NATI

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01:53:58,960 --> 01:54:02,679
Speaker 3: today due to our friends for Bengals pep Rally coming

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01:54:02,760 --> 01:54:05,160
Speaker 3: up this afternoon from three to six. That's right, No mo.

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Speaker 3: Half an hour from now, we're gonna I believe it's

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Speaker 3: gonna be Wayne Box Miller and Dave Lapham if I'm

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01:54:10,479 --> 01:54:14,080
Speaker 3: not mistaken, for the Bengals pep Rally show and looking

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01:54:14,120 --> 01:54:17,080
Speaker 3: forward to listen to those guys as they get us

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01:54:17,080 --> 01:54:19,519
Speaker 3: set for the Bengals and the Bears. Speaking of which

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Speaker 3: the Bengals just made a couple of roster moves literally

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Speaker 3: one minute ago, announced by the club that they have

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Speaker 3: activated defensive ends Cedric Johnson and quarterback Sean Clifford has

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Speaker 3: been signed to the active roster. Cedric Johnson was put

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Speaker 3: on the ir with a calf injury on August twenty

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Speaker 3: sixth and was clear to return to practice on October

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Speaker 3: twenty second. I've been dealing with that calf injury. Sean Clifford,

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Speaker 3: you might remember, friend of the Show, sayt Ex bomber

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Speaker 3: Sean Clifford has been signed to the active roster. He's

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Speaker 3: a second year player. He signed with the Bengals on

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Speaker 3: September sixteen on the practice squad right after the Joe

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Speaker 3: Burrow injury. He and Mike White both signed the practice squad.

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Speaker 3: So it is uh, Sean Clifford and Cedric Johnson who

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Speaker 3: get the bengals final two roster spots. All right, So

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Speaker 3: yesterday Adam Schefter and Ben Baby report that McKinley Jackson

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Speaker 3: has asked for a trade. And I think most people

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Speaker 3: at this point just kind of point and laugh at

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Speaker 3: the Bengals because it's like here we are again. If

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Speaker 3: you look just in the last five or six years,

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Speaker 3: Jonah Williams, Trey Hendrickson, T Higgins, Jermaine Pratt, Logan Wilson,

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Speaker 3: and McKinley Jackson have all asked for trades from the

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Speaker 3: Bengals organization. You can also lump Mike Panell in there,

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Speaker 3: who asked for his release. You could throw Carlos Dunlap

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Speaker 3: in there in twenty nineteen when he had a complete

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Speaker 3: meltdown and basically forced his way out. Like you could

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Speaker 3: put all of that, and there has been a lot

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Speaker 3: of change within the organization over the period of time

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Speaker 3: that all those trade requests have come in. The McKinley

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Speaker 3: Jackson one, though, is a little bit surprising, mostly because

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Speaker 3: of everything Charlie just outlined. Here's a guy who had

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Speaker 3: a really good second half of the season last year,

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Speaker 3: like flashed was impressive and somebody who I thought going

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Speaker 3: into this offseason was going to be a part of

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Speaker 3: the plan to get better up front defensively for this team.

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Speaker 3: And I was thinking second year, he makes a jump

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Speaker 3: new defensive line coach, McKinley Jackson can be somebody that

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Speaker 3: helps this team. He can maybe salvage that third round

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Speaker 3: from that draft in which they drafted Jermaine Burton and

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Speaker 3: McKinley Jackson. I mean, if you remember, not only was

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Speaker 3: Burton seen by many as a reach because of his

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01:56:57,120 --> 01:57:00,400
Speaker 3: off the field issues, but Jackson was seen by many

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Speaker 3: as a reach as well. This is a common theme

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Speaker 3: with the Bengals when they draft. They often don't take

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01:57:06,920 --> 01:57:11,320
Speaker 3: players in the positions that the general consensus has them.

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Speaker 3: That is, to me an indication of the severely flawed

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01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,520
Speaker 3: nature that is the Bengals personnel department. We'll get to

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Speaker 3: them in a minute, but McKinley Jackson at least showed

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Speaker 3: you something right there at the end of last season,

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Speaker 3: and you're thinking, Okay, wonderful, McKinley Jackson's going to be

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Speaker 3: a part of the plan. And then, as Charlie outlined,

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01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:35,560
Speaker 3: a couple weeks into training camp, this guy is losing

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01:57:35,640 --> 01:57:41,480
Speaker 3: out reps to Howard Cross and everybody else basically who

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01:57:41,640 --> 01:57:45,560
Speaker 3: was in camp mentally, wasn't there, physically, wasn't in the

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Speaker 3: best shape. He screwed himself up and then struggled has

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01:57:50,640 --> 01:57:54,600
Speaker 3: struggled to get back to that point. And so the

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Speaker 3: Bengals make a waiver claim for Jordan Jefferson, defensive tackle

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01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,520
Speaker 3: who they have put multiple ways claims in for him

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01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:05,160
Speaker 3: in the past. They finally get him to the team,

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01:58:05,920 --> 01:58:10,840
Speaker 3: and with Mike Panell gone, Jordan Jefferson is the next

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01:58:10,920 --> 01:58:13,480
Speaker 3: man up. And a lot of people I've seen on

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01:58:13,600 --> 01:58:17,120
Speaker 3: social media have been kind of putting Bengals defensive players

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Speaker 3: only meeting then to trade to request request right away

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01:58:21,040 --> 01:58:24,000
Speaker 3: bam bam, Logan Wilson, McKinley Jackson. I don't think those

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Speaker 3: two things are necessarily connected. I think it is those

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01:58:28,360 --> 01:58:31,080
Speaker 3: two guys see the riding on the wall and don't

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Speaker 3: feel like they're given they're being given a fair chance,

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01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:36,960
Speaker 3: so they want out to see if they can get

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Speaker 3: somewhere else where they can play and be given a

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Speaker 3: better opportunity. That's my guess onto those two things, and

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Speaker 3: I believe that to be true. I don't know that

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Speaker 3: it's necessarily connected to the players only meeting that the

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Speaker 3: Bengals defense had, But I think the way things are

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Speaker 3: going with the Bengals right now with yet another trade request,

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Speaker 3: with all these young guys being given opportunities and being

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Speaker 3: given opportunities to screw up and quite frankly embarrassing themselves.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I can't stop thinking about those plays that

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Speaker 3: McKinley or not McKinley Jackson, that Demetrius Knight Junior and

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Speaker 3: Barrett Carter had on Sunday, and Charlie talked about the

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01:59:20,400 --> 01:59:22,760
Speaker 3: intangibles of Barrett Carter off the charts, and that's a

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01:59:22,800 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 3: good thing. You need that as a linebacker, you need

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01:59:26,440 --> 01:59:32,040
Speaker 3: that as an NFL player. But but there are also

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01:59:32,200 --> 01:59:35,480
Speaker 3: times where those two guys look like they'd never been

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01:59:35,520 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 3: on a football field before. There are videos the film

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01:59:41,000 --> 01:59:45,560
Speaker 3: of Demetrius Knight Junior, eyes in the wrong spot, getting

2339
01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,520
Speaker 3: completely turned around, looking like he wants nothing to do

2340
01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 3: with contact, having no clue where he's supposed to be

2341
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:54,520
Speaker 3: or what he's supposed to be or what he's supposed

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01:59:54,520 --> 01:59:57,760
Speaker 3: to be doing. Demetrius Knight it was less of that

2343
01:59:58,000 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 3: and more of just physically not being able to make

2344
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Speaker 3: the plays necessary for a starting linebacker in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: That is frustrating, damning, maddening tape to watch, but it

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Speaker 3: is something that the Bengals seem to be willing to

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Speaker 3: go through so that they can grow through it. There's

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Speaker 3: an old saying out there that says you grow through

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Speaker 3: what you go through, and the Bengals seem to be

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Speaker 3: putting their chips in that bat, all their eggs in

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Speaker 3: that basket, pushing their chips to that end of the table.

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Speaker 3: So the way I see the current state of the Bengals,

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Speaker 3: both offensively and defensively, and primarily with Zach Taylor on down,

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Speaker 3: is that one of two things have been happening. Have happened.

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Speaker 3: Number one, Zach was told at the beginning of the season,

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Speaker 3: you gotta start fast, and you've got to get back

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Speaker 3: to the playoffs, and if you don't, there will be repercussions.

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Speaker 3: Because the fired Louanna Rumo and fired James Betcher and

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02:00:57,680 --> 02:01:03,320
Speaker 3: fired Marion Hobby. You made all these changes, You fired

2360
02:01:03,440 --> 02:01:06,240
Speaker 3: uh Frank Pollock, You move on from all these coaches.

2361
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,000
Speaker 3: You bring new coaches in. So you guys have to

2362
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:12,040
Speaker 3: develop these young players and get us back to the playoffs,

2363
02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:16,440
Speaker 3: all right, scapegoat Louanna Rumo, scapegoat some of the safeties.

2364
02:01:16,760 --> 02:01:19,640
Speaker 3: Get some guys to take a pay cut. You have

2365
02:01:19,880 --> 02:01:25,120
Speaker 3: to make these guys better or else. And maybe ownership

2366
02:01:25,240 --> 02:01:27,600
Speaker 3: and Mike Brown and Katie and Troy have turned the

2367
02:01:27,680 --> 02:01:31,160
Speaker 3: heat up on Zach Taylor to where he knows winning

2368
02:01:31,440 --> 02:01:35,200
Speaker 3: is his only option. And so because of that, there

2369
02:01:35,320 --> 02:01:39,160
Speaker 3: is a reeking smell of desperation, and he is making

2370
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 3: all these moves to try to get this to work

2371
02:01:41,480 --> 02:01:43,360
Speaker 3: or this to work, or that to work, or this

2372
02:01:43,480 --> 02:01:47,200
Speaker 3: to work, whatever it might be. Now, I do think

2373
02:01:47,360 --> 02:01:51,320
Speaker 3: the Flacco trade was a bit of a concession from

2374
02:01:51,360 --> 02:01:53,920
Speaker 3: the front office to say, our fault, not good enough

2375
02:01:54,040 --> 02:01:57,960
Speaker 3: roster here, not good enough players. But I do think

2376
02:01:58,040 --> 02:02:02,600
Speaker 3: defensively they are willing to try anything to make it work.

2377
02:02:02,760 --> 02:02:05,600
Speaker 3: And I think part of that could be the desperation,

2378
02:02:05,800 --> 02:02:09,600
Speaker 3: because you know, if you lose, it could unravel. So

2379
02:02:09,720 --> 02:02:12,480
Speaker 3: I think that's option A. That ownership has turned the

2380
02:02:12,520 --> 02:02:15,320
Speaker 3: heat up on Zach's seat, and if you remember, going

2381
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,160
Speaker 3: into this season, we had a lot of conversations about

2382
02:02:18,160 --> 02:02:21,360
Speaker 3: whether or not the seat should be hot, and we

2383
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:24,520
Speaker 3: ultimately agreed on yes, it should be. And I think

2384
02:02:24,560 --> 02:02:27,120
Speaker 3: when Burrow got hurt, a lot of people turn the

2385
02:02:27,160 --> 02:02:29,680
Speaker 3: burners off. I don't know that that's necessarily the way

2386
02:02:29,720 --> 02:02:32,760
Speaker 3: we should be talking about Zach Taylor. I do think

2387
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:36,440
Speaker 3: to Charlie's point, the way that he's handled this situation

2388
02:02:37,200 --> 02:02:39,640
Speaker 3: is indicative of the coach and the man that Zak

2389
02:02:39,840 --> 02:02:43,920
Speaker 3: is and why I have been so steadfast in my

2390
02:02:44,080 --> 02:02:48,600
Speaker 3: belief in him over the years. Now I'm okay with

2391
02:02:48,680 --> 02:02:51,160
Speaker 3: the Bengals. If they move on from Zach. I would

2392
02:02:51,240 --> 02:02:55,000
Speaker 3: understand it. He lost me at times this year. I

2393
02:02:55,080 --> 02:02:58,880
Speaker 3: wouldn't be angry if they did. I would also understand

2394
02:02:58,960 --> 02:03:01,680
Speaker 3: if they stuck with him, which I think is option

2395
02:03:01,880 --> 02:03:04,480
Speaker 3: number two. So option one is ownership turns the heat

2396
02:03:04,560 --> 02:03:07,480
Speaker 3: up on his seat. Option two is they told him

2397
02:03:07,520 --> 02:03:10,840
Speaker 3: the exact opposite. We believe in you, we want you

2398
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:13,720
Speaker 3: to be the coach. Here's a chance to reset with

2399
02:03:13,880 --> 02:03:17,400
Speaker 3: new coordinators and new position coaches. You got to develop

2400
02:03:17,480 --> 02:03:20,840
Speaker 3: these guys and get this team ready to go into

2401
02:03:20,880 --> 02:03:25,080
Speaker 3: the next phase of Bengals football with Higgins and Chase

2402
02:03:25,360 --> 02:03:28,200
Speaker 3: and Burrow all under these big contracts. And so because

2403
02:03:28,240 --> 02:03:33,120
Speaker 3: of that, Zach and his coaching staff feel comfortable with

2404
02:03:33,240 --> 02:03:36,360
Speaker 3: this plan to throw guys in and live with the

2405
02:03:36,480 --> 02:03:41,520
Speaker 3: growing pains. And they are not afraid of people and

2406
02:03:41,720 --> 02:03:44,560
Speaker 3: players getting their feelings hurt in an effort to find

2407
02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:46,640
Speaker 3: out what they have. I think that's option number two.

2408
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,400
Speaker 3: And most people seem to agree with this notion. I

2409
02:03:50,520 --> 02:03:54,040
Speaker 3: posted it at Audiellmore on Twitter at au t y

2410
02:03:54,200 --> 02:03:57,760
Speaker 3: E L m o r E. And the main reason

2411
02:03:57,840 --> 02:03:59,880
Speaker 3: people seem to agree with this notion is because the

2412
02:04:00,080 --> 02:04:03,040
Speaker 3: they think Zach that Mike Brown is loyal to a fault,

2413
02:04:03,120 --> 02:04:05,800
Speaker 3: and I think there have been plenty of indications of

2414
02:04:05,920 --> 02:04:10,120
Speaker 3: that over the years. But I also would at least understand, Okay,

2415
02:04:10,680 --> 02:04:13,320
Speaker 3: you got to figure out these young players and what

2416
02:04:13,440 --> 02:04:15,440
Speaker 3: you have so that we know what we have going forward.

2417
02:04:15,840 --> 02:04:18,920
Speaker 3: Because keep in mind, I want everybody to remember something.

2418
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:20,680
Speaker 3: Everybody thinks that the Bengals are broke.

2419
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,120
Speaker 2: They're not. They have about ten million dollars in cap

2420
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:27,840
Speaker 2: space right now, which is normal for them to spend

2421
02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:30,720
Speaker 2: up to that amount, at least in this era of

2422
02:04:30,760 --> 02:04:35,200
Speaker 2: Bengals football. But they're looking at sixty seven to seventy

2423
02:04:35,440 --> 02:04:40,280
Speaker 2: million dollars in cap space next year. That is an

2424
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:44,000
Speaker 2: opportunity re sign some guys, figure out who you like,

2425
02:04:44,160 --> 02:04:47,760
Speaker 2: who you don't like, and then supplement the roster through

2426
02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:49,640
Speaker 2: free agency like they have in the past.

2427
02:04:50,920 --> 02:04:54,920
Speaker 3: There is space for that to happen next year. Do

2428
02:04:55,080 --> 02:04:57,800
Speaker 3: not believe this narrative that the Bengals are broke and

2429
02:04:57,960 --> 02:05:00,720
Speaker 3: because of Burrow and Chase and Higgins they can't afford

2430
02:05:00,720 --> 02:05:05,760
Speaker 3: any more good players. They can this year, they mostly

2431
02:05:05,880 --> 02:05:09,080
Speaker 3: decided to run it back with the same group, and

2432
02:05:09,200 --> 02:05:11,120
Speaker 3: with the money shelled out to those guys and with

2433
02:05:11,240 --> 02:05:15,320
Speaker 3: the Hendrickson issue, that kinda in their mind limited what

2434
02:05:15,480 --> 02:05:18,160
Speaker 3: all they could do again. It was part of the

2435
02:05:18,240 --> 02:05:21,640
Speaker 3: reason why I was adamant about I don't need Trey

2436
02:05:21,680 --> 02:05:24,520
Speaker 3: Hendrickson all that much if I can get better players

2437
02:05:24,560 --> 02:05:28,760
Speaker 3: in place of him. But there is still a path

2438
02:05:28,880 --> 02:05:31,720
Speaker 3: that Bengals feel like can happen sooner rather than later,

2439
02:05:32,040 --> 02:05:37,400
Speaker 3: as opposed to a full rebuild after this season. So

2440
02:05:37,520 --> 02:05:41,440
Speaker 3: I do think it's option number two. But what happens

2441
02:05:41,480 --> 02:05:43,320
Speaker 3: over the next couple of weeks if you get embarrassed

2442
02:05:43,320 --> 02:05:47,120
Speaker 3: by the Chicago Bears, do things start to unravel internally?

2443
02:05:47,960 --> 02:05:50,720
Speaker 3: What happens to Zach Taylor, what happens to that locker room,

2444
02:05:51,560 --> 02:05:53,920
Speaker 3: what happens when the offense is pit against the defense.

2445
02:05:54,880 --> 02:05:57,440
Speaker 3: I'm not fully convinced that Zach hasn't lost the locker

2446
02:05:57,520 --> 02:06:00,560
Speaker 3: room to this point. And if it gets bad again Chicago,

2447
02:06:01,200 --> 02:06:04,200
Speaker 3: it could fracture to a point where maybe it's not salvageable.

2448
02:06:04,920 --> 02:06:07,400
Speaker 3: And that's what you have to be really really careful

2449
02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:10,800
Speaker 3: about if you're the Bengals. In my opinion, we'll take

2450
02:06:10,840 --> 02:06:12,920
Speaker 3: a break, we'll come back. This is the Friday Football

2451
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,480
Speaker 3: Frenzy on ESPN fifty thirty.

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Speaker 7: You've been listening to Football in the NATI, brought to

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02:06:18,200 --> 02:06:22,960
Speaker 7: you by Cincinnati Tax Resolution, powered by Tofe Sheldon on

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Speaker 7: ESPN fifteen thirty, the official home of the Cincinnati Bengals.

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Speaker 6: Hey, it's Mawegger. The Tony and Mo Football Show moved

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02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:34,040
Speaker 6: to Twin Peaks in Westchester Monday afternoon. Join us as

2457
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Speaker 6: we talk Bengals, Bears, UC versus Utah and more, starting

2458
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Speaker 6: at three five on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati Sports Station.

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Speaker 3: My name is tove tpe Home stretched on a Friday

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Speaker 3: Football Frenzy, Austin Elmore. This is Tony Pike's Friday Football friends.

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Speaker 3: You got time for a couple of quick phone calls.

2462
02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,360
Speaker 3: Let's go to our guy Mike in La. What up, Mike.

2463
02:07:01,200 --> 02:07:01,440
Speaker 4: Going?

2464
02:07:01,760 --> 02:07:02,560
Speaker 3: I'm doing all right?

2465
02:07:02,680 --> 02:07:02,840
Speaker 8: Man?

2466
02:07:02,880 --> 02:07:03,240
Speaker 3: How are you?

2467
02:07:04,240 --> 02:07:08,960
Speaker 4: Pretty good? Analysis of the Bengals? The miserable lowly asked Bengals.

2468
02:07:12,760 --> 02:07:15,040
Speaker 4: The Bears are going to beat the crap out of them.

2469
02:07:15,760 --> 02:07:17,280
Speaker 4: They're gonna whip their button.

2470
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:19,360
Speaker 3: That's the feeling I get as well.

2471
02:07:20,600 --> 02:07:21,120
Speaker 9: Yeah I do.

2472
02:07:21,640 --> 02:07:23,360
Speaker 4: I'll tell you why. The Bears just have a much

2473
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:26,080
Speaker 4: better roster than we have right off the bat, they

2474
02:07:26,600 --> 02:07:29,880
Speaker 4: got seven or eight guys who possibly could be pro bowler.

2475
02:07:31,800 --> 02:07:32,919
Speaker 4: So I just don't.

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02:07:34,240 --> 02:07:36,240
Speaker 9: Man, aren't you tired of it?

2477
02:07:36,360 --> 02:07:40,680
Speaker 4: Austen? And I'll tell you what. Joe Burrow and we

2478
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:43,360
Speaker 4: all love Joe. You can't help but love Joe. Joe,

2479
02:07:43,480 --> 02:07:49,280
Speaker 4: Jo Jojojo. He's injury prone, dude, his first five six

2480
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:51,400
Speaker 4: years in the league. Man, he gets hurt as much

2481
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:55,240
Speaker 4: as he plays. And how do we know that's not

2482
02:07:55,480 --> 02:08:00,240
Speaker 4: going to continue? Maybe even worse than just a terf too.

2483
02:08:01,480 --> 02:08:04,280
Speaker 4: So and I bet you there are more players than

2484
02:08:04,440 --> 02:08:07,800
Speaker 4: just these couple of lowlife scumbags who probably couldn't make

2485
02:08:07,840 --> 02:08:10,320
Speaker 4: it on any other team I want to go. I

2486
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,720
Speaker 4: bet there's other guys that there aren't saying a word

2487
02:08:13,320 --> 02:08:15,840
Speaker 4: that we're thinking. You know, man, I don't know where

2488
02:08:15,920 --> 02:08:23,360
Speaker 4: this is going. Burrow, Chase Higgins sounds good, but what

2489
02:08:24,200 --> 02:08:26,320
Speaker 4: we don't have any fire, you know. I'm trying to

2490
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:28,400
Speaker 4: tell you. I just feel that there could be a

2491
02:08:28,640 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 4: hidden desire for a lot of guys to just be

2492
02:08:32,320 --> 02:08:35,720
Speaker 4: second guessing there on their stay. Cincinnati Bagels.

2493
02:08:35,960 --> 02:08:39,040
Speaker 3: Sure, yeah, I think that's fair. That's one of the

2494
02:08:39,880 --> 02:08:45,400
Speaker 3: consequences of losing. And you know, guys, multiple guys kind

2495
02:08:45,440 --> 02:08:48,440
Speaker 3: of taking their shots on the roster and off the rosters.

2496
02:08:48,680 --> 02:08:50,600
Speaker 3: It's one of the unfortunate realities of losing.

2497
02:08:50,680 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 4: Yes, is Duke to Is it conceivable that Duke Tobin

2498
02:08:56,600 --> 02:08:59,440
Speaker 4: can lose his job or we just stuck with him forever?

2499
02:08:59,800 --> 02:09:00,120
Speaker 19: You know?

2500
02:09:00,320 --> 02:09:04,320
Speaker 3: I would I feel like we are stuck with him forever.

2501
02:09:04,960 --> 02:09:08,919
Speaker 3: But I will say this. Earlier today, the Miami Dolphins

2502
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:13,720
Speaker 3: fired their GM Chris Greer, and he had been with

2503
02:09:14,280 --> 02:09:19,960
Speaker 3: the Dolphins since two thousand, so Duke Tobin's been with

2504
02:09:20,040 --> 02:09:24,200
Speaker 3: the Bengals since nineteen ninety nine. I guess if Chris

2505
02:09:24,280 --> 02:09:27,920
Speaker 3: Greer can get canned from the Dolphins, Duke Tobin could

2506
02:09:27,960 --> 02:09:29,960
Speaker 3: get canned from the Bengals. I guess it's possible.

2507
02:09:31,360 --> 02:09:33,960
Speaker 4: It just seems like Mike Brown has this allegiance thing

2508
02:09:34,160 --> 02:09:39,440
Speaker 4: or comfort zone even, and so that leads us a

2509
02:09:39,600 --> 02:09:43,720
Speaker 4: fan to believe do they really really care about winning?

2510
02:09:43,800 --> 02:09:45,600
Speaker 4: Of course, you know we want to win, We want

2511
02:09:45,600 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 4: to win, but do you really want to win?

2512
02:09:48,240 --> 02:09:50,680
Speaker 3: Right? And I've said this many times in Mike thank

2513
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:53,360
Speaker 3: you for the phone call, that the Bengals want to win,

2514
02:09:54,160 --> 02:09:58,920
Speaker 3: but they want to win their way, and sometimes that's

2515
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:03,480
Speaker 3: not possible. Last phone called John and Mason. What's up John?

2516
02:10:05,440 --> 02:10:05,680
Speaker 1: Hello?

2517
02:10:06,120 --> 02:10:06,480
Speaker 6: How are you?

2518
02:10:06,680 --> 02:10:07,920
Speaker 3: I'm all right? What's on your mind?

2519
02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,960
Speaker 9: A couple of things. First, just to comment on Mike

2520
02:10:13,080 --> 02:10:18,160
Speaker 9: has mentioned that who was just from La. I don't

2521
02:10:18,200 --> 02:10:21,520
Speaker 9: think that Burrow is prone.

2522
02:10:22,000 --> 02:10:26,840
Speaker 30: I think he is the victim of no of two things.

2523
02:10:26,960 --> 02:10:30,120
Speaker 30: One no decent offensive line in front of him to

2524
02:10:30,240 --> 02:10:34,720
Speaker 30: protect him. And two when when he is knocked down,

2525
02:10:34,840 --> 02:10:38,600
Speaker 30: when other guys grab his face mask, when he's.

2526
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:44,160
Speaker 9: Done in with you know, improper hits and all of that.

2527
02:10:44,760 --> 02:10:48,480
Speaker 30: I never see the offensive line rally around their guy,

2528
02:10:49,200 --> 02:10:53,040
Speaker 30: pushing the defense. I don't see Zach on the sidelines,

2529
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:56,920
Speaker 30: randing and raving like a maniac, which he should do.

2530
02:10:57,160 --> 02:10:57,360
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2531
02:10:57,400 --> 02:11:00,720
Speaker 3: Well, I've seen Zach rant and rave like a maniac

2532
02:11:00,800 --> 02:11:02,720
Speaker 3: on some of those, but I haven't seen the offensive

2533
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:07,000
Speaker 3: line do it. So yeah, I hear you on that, okay.

2534
02:11:07,200 --> 02:11:09,800
Speaker 30: And the other thing is about Duke Tobin.

2535
02:11:10,880 --> 02:11:15,280
Speaker 4: I will buy you whenever you want at Skyline.

2536
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:20,640
Speaker 30: If Duke Tobin loses his job, whatever the hell you

2537
02:11:20,800 --> 02:11:21,560
Speaker 30: can swallow.

2538
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:24,040
Speaker 9: Duke Tobin.

2539
02:11:24,640 --> 02:11:28,920
Speaker 30: Everybody knows about his inability to draft properly, and they

2540
02:11:28,960 --> 02:11:31,680
Speaker 30: are not going to get rid of him because he

2541
02:11:31,840 --> 02:11:35,640
Speaker 30: is I think Bill Tobin's son, which somehow means.

2542
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:38,280
Speaker 9: Something to Brown and such as that.

2543
02:11:38,800 --> 02:11:41,640
Speaker 30: As for the cap space, they may have ten million dollars,

2544
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,760
Speaker 30: they will not spend it because they can pocket it.

2545
02:11:45,280 --> 02:11:47,960
Speaker 30: And just think of a few years ago Giovanni Bernard,

2546
02:11:49,080 --> 02:11:51,320
Speaker 30: a very good player for the Bengals.

2547
02:11:50,880 --> 02:11:51,840
Speaker 9: For a number of years.

2548
02:11:52,120 --> 02:11:55,360
Speaker 30: They let him go to say five million dollars. They

2549
02:11:55,400 --> 02:11:58,440
Speaker 30: did not spend that five million. They pocketed it.

2550
02:11:59,240 --> 02:12:01,720
Speaker 3: Well, well, you have ten million dollars in cap space,

2551
02:12:01,800 --> 02:12:03,920
Speaker 3: you don't just you don't get to just pocket the

2552
02:12:04,000 --> 02:12:07,680
Speaker 3: ten million dollars. It rolls over into next year. So yeah, no,

2553
02:12:07,800 --> 02:12:09,320
Speaker 3: they don't just pocket it.

2554
02:12:09,640 --> 02:12:13,640
Speaker 30: But it's it's still in their pocket and nobody else's.

2555
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:18,000
Speaker 30: I don't mean they're going out to Skyline for different however,

2556
02:12:18,160 --> 02:12:20,840
Speaker 30: that they're not going to spend it and they'll just use.

2557
02:12:20,760 --> 02:12:21,600
Speaker 8: It some other way.

2558
02:12:22,160 --> 02:12:25,080
Speaker 3: Maybe, yeah, I mean, and John, thank you for the

2559
02:12:25,120 --> 02:12:30,520
Speaker 3: phone call. The reality is this, this organization has spent

2560
02:12:30,720 --> 02:12:33,600
Speaker 3: a lot of money in recent years, more than they

2561
02:12:33,720 --> 02:12:38,840
Speaker 3: have ever right now, have every has every decision worked out?

2562
02:12:39,080 --> 02:12:39,120
Speaker 30: No?

2563
02:12:40,080 --> 02:12:41,400
Speaker 3: Will every decision work out?

2564
02:12:41,560 --> 02:12:41,600
Speaker 5: No?

2565
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:45,880
Speaker 3: But the Super Bowl team and the AFC Championship team

2566
02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:49,520
Speaker 3: in twenty two. Those teams were built off the backs

2567
02:12:49,680 --> 02:12:52,280
Speaker 3: of the fact that the Bengals got aggressive and smart

2568
02:12:52,360 --> 02:12:55,680
Speaker 3: in free agency, and I have a hard time believing

2569
02:12:55,720 --> 02:12:57,800
Speaker 3: that they're just never going to do that again, especially

2570
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,000
Speaker 3: with the amount of space that they have moving forward.

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Speaker 3: And even then you can't. I think the cheap narrative

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Speaker 3: is dead, truthfully, because the way that they've handled their

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Speaker 3: star players now, are they smart with the way they

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Speaker 3: do those contracts not always ends up costing them more money.

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Speaker 3: You could make the argument are they cheap or are

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Speaker 3: they incompetent, especially when you look at the Jamar Chase

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Speaker 3: situation or the Trey Hendrickson situation for example. But either way,

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Speaker 3: there is a history in recent years of this organization

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Speaker 3: not being afraid to spend the money to go and

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Speaker 3: supplement the roster. Now has it always have I agreed

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Speaker 3: with everything?

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Speaker 4: No? Have?

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Speaker 3: Have they had opportunities to do more? Yes?

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Speaker 10: Do?

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Speaker 3: I wish they would have. Absolutely, But to sit back

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Speaker 3: with the idea that, oh, this is our team and

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Speaker 3: we're not going to do anything with it, especially after

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Speaker 3: this season, I don't buy that. I think they're a

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Speaker 3: lot smarter than that and take a break. We'll finish

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Speaker 3: up with quick hits on ESPN fifteen thirty.

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Speaker 11: Since three sixty continues on ESPN fifteen thirty, Cincinnati's sports station,

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Speaker 11: it's time for Sincy three sixty quick hits on ESPN fifteenth.

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Speaker 3: Well, Moe's not here. He's also with Tony on the

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Speaker 3: trip to Utah to take on for the Bearcats to

2595
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Speaker 3: take on the Utah youths. That's a ten to fifteen kickoff.

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Speaker 3: College game Day is going to be there in Utah,

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Speaker 3: and Tony and Mo will be right back here at

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Speaker 3: nine am Sunday morning, So the game is going to

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Speaker 3: end after midnight Eastern time, and then like eight hours later,

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Speaker 3: Tony and Mo and ken Brew will be on the

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Speaker 3: air for the countdown to kick off for the pregame

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Speaker 3: sports talk, I believe is what it's officially known as,

2603
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Speaker 3: from nine to eleven thirty on Sunday morning. Looking forward

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Speaker 3: to that, and as we mentioned earlier, Bearcats heavy underdogs,

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Speaker 3: but I do believe they can win a little bit

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02:14:49,920 --> 02:14:53,360
Speaker 3: of Red's news here for quick hits. Santiago Espinal has

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02:14:53,480 --> 02:14:57,320
Speaker 3: been officially outrighted to Triple A. Louisville Reds did that

2608
02:14:57,440 --> 02:15:01,000
Speaker 3: earlier today, which takes him off the forty man. He

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Speaker 3: can elect free agency if he chooses to. Big update

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Speaker 3: for the Chicago Bears when it comes to their availability

2611
02:15:09,600 --> 02:15:14,480
Speaker 3: for Sunday. Starting running back DeAndre Swift is officially labeled

2612
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Speaker 3: out with a groin injury. He did not practice all week.

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Speaker 3: He is out. Others out for the Bears on Sunday

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Speaker 3: include defensive lineman Dominique Robinson dealing with an ankle other

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Speaker 3: running back Roshan Johnson is out with a back injury,

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Speaker 3: and rookie wide receiver Luther Burden the Third is out

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Speaker 3: with a concussion. The following Bears are good to go.

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Speaker 3: Defensive lineman Grady Jarrett, tight end Cole Kmet, wide receivers

2619
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Speaker 3: Dj Moore and Roma Doonza, defensive back Tyreek Stevenson, guard

2620
02:15:46,560 --> 02:15:52,360
Speaker 3: Joe Thony, and wide receiver Olamide Zakias. Those guys are

2621
02:15:52,440 --> 02:15:57,240
Speaker 3: all good to go for the Chicago Bears on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: Other stuff going on. NBA Cup action gets underway tonight,

2623
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Speaker 3: Bulls Nicks, me versus Mo. Nobody cares except for us,

2624
02:16:06,520 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 3: but that's all right. That gets underway tonight as well.

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Speaker 3: College basketball gets started in Bulk on Monday. We'll talk

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Speaker 3: about that next week on the show. By the way,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens were fined one hundred thousand dollars by the

2628
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Speaker 3: NFL for screwing up the practice report with Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 3: last week. They did find that it is negligence more

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Speaker 3: than trying to gain a competitive advantage. And I do

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Speaker 3: want to finish with this talking about the idea of

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Speaker 3: Duke Tobin potentially getting fired. Listen to the parallels between

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Speaker 3: him and Chris Greer, who mutually parted ways with the

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Speaker 3: Dolphins earlier today. Chris Greer was working under his father

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Speaker 3: in New England with the Patriots, and then he left

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02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:52,520
Speaker 3: and joined the Dolphins in two thousand. He's been there

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Speaker 3: ever since. Duke Tobin was working under his father in

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis as a scout and then left in nineteen ninety

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Speaker 3: nine to join the Bengals. He's been here ever since.

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Speaker 3: Kind of amazing the similarities between the two. All Right,

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Speaker 3: that does it for me. If you liked twitch you heard,

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Speaker 3: you can follow me on Twitter at Audiol Moore au

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Speaker 3: t y E. L.

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Speaker 9: M Ori.

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Speaker 3: I also host a Bengals podcast. It's called The Ball

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Speaker 3: Don't Live Podcast. You can find it anywhere you get

2647
02:17:22,760 --> 02:17:27,720
Speaker 3: your podcasts, including on the iHeartRadio app. Tony and Moe

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Speaker 3: Back Sunday at nine am, alongside Ken Brew, Tony and

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Speaker 3: myself back here at noon on Monday. Tony and Moe

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Speaker 3: Football Show also at three o'clock on Monday, but the

2651
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Speaker 3: Bengals pep Rally Show is next. You've been listening to

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Speaker 3: Friday Football Frenzy on the home of the Bengals, Cincinnati's

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Speaker 3: ESPN fifteen thirty