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Speaker 1: on ninety three to three FLZ. Hi, Gena, Hi, Gina.

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Speaker 1: I already called Cam. I talked to him last night

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Speaker 2: Oh good, Cam, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I Cam, Cam. I told Gina that, you know, we've

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Speaker 1: Not to put any words in your mouth, but you

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Speaker 1: did say you were, you know, feeling kind of bad

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Speaker 1: say hey, listen, I'm not really interested in what you

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Speaker 2: Which, yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: You know I told you I after hearing what happened,

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Speaker 2: Cam.

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Speaker 1: Just go ahead and tell Gina why you didn't give

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Speaker 2: Look, Gina, I mean, yeah, I do feel a little

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Speaker 2: bad that, you know, I just ghosted you. But you know,

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Speaker 2: when I saw your profile online, you had mentioned nothing

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Speaker 3: Right, but like you wouldn't be like you'd just be

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Speaker 3: with me, you wouldn't be the one that's polyamorous.

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Speaker 1: Well here, I don't want to butt in, but you know, Cam, yesterday,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, which I.

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Speaker 1: Think is even even more different right than and then

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Speaker 1: just dating or hey, i've got a boyfriend. But also

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Speaker 1: you know, this is my lifestyle. Yeah, So I mean, Gina,

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Speaker 4: Look, no, she did.

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Speaker 2: She as far as I could see, she didn't have

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Speaker 3: Well, we're non traditional, so we don't really believe in

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Speaker 2: I mean I understand all of that, and and you know,

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 1: Eight ninety three? Anyone ever been in this situation before?

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Speaker 1: How what are the rules to this? Do you got

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Speaker 1: Or or is this the first time that you didn't give.

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Speaker 5: Them a head?

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Speaker 3: This is the first time anyone's been like weird about it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, usually if someone's attracted to me, they're like

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Speaker 3: It's like any other normal date.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I feel like that's something you have to

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, but I'm married,

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean it wouldn't be with my husband, he'd

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Speaker 4: Before going to the date.

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Speaker 2: Like I feel like I totally wasted my time.

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Speaker 1: Eight hundred four oh ninety three ninety three could always

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Speaker 1: you just let that person on? Please? How is this?

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Speaker 7: My name is Milena?

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Speaker 1: Him Milena, Milena, talk to me about all this. So

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Speaker 1: and Gina is married. Didn't tell cam that. But they're

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Speaker 2: Before the first day. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: And if it's on like Tinder, I don't know.

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Speaker 7: I heard that they met on some appy that it's

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Speaker 1: I keep it out, Gina, why not say anything?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I guess that's part of the fun of

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Speaker 5: You all guys are okay with just, you know, hanging

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Speaker 4: Then I feel like it's a little bit different on.

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Speaker 7: A one night stand and doing that because you're not

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Speaker 4: Here, you I agree?

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Speaker 1: All right, Melena, thank you so much. Let's just get Leon.

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Speaker 1: Can I get Lion through that?

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Speaker 4: Lean?

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Speaker 1: Leon?

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Speaker 2: Hey, leone, Joe, Leon.

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Speaker 1: You're own with Gina and Cam.

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Speaker 3: Gina is.

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Speaker 1: Didn't tell Cam that. It's wondering why should not get

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Speaker 3: Still?

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Speaker 6: What's up? Hey?

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Speaker 4: How are you doing today? Fantastic, good to be on

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Speaker 4: the good to be on the show. First time caller,

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Speaker 4: I love it?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've been listening for for years, but first time caller,

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Speaker 3: It took.

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Speaker 4: It took a really good topic for me to call her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I love the great ones that we want to hear.

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Speaker 5: What you gotta say, what you gotta say? My baby?

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Speaker 4: Uh? Well, hey, I've been married three times and uh

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Speaker 4: I've been in all these situations from pretty much the

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Speaker 4: You know, Uh, there's a time in your life when

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Speaker 1: Leon, I'm happy you finally called in me too, all right, guys, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I see you later. That's the trumpet we play whenever

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Speaker 1: a good call. Last one, Julia, go ahead.

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Speaker 6: I want to give him mad prompts for being so

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Speaker 6: respectful over this. Whole conversation. He could have said so

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Speaker 1: Do you feel like you were trying to bait him.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I wasn't trying to bait him, though, Cam.

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Speaker 6: It sounds really interesting, Kim.

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Speaker 1: I've noticed what Julia is saying. You have been very

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well look, I mean that's just who I am.

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Speaker 2: Okay, And like I said, I even told you I

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Speaker 2: even felt a little rude about the ghosting, right Like, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I like to be respectful of people. I don't judge

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Speaker 2: people's lifestyles and anyone tree to live however they want

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Speaker 2: going to try to bring somebody else into it, don't

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Speaker 3: That's how I feel.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, thank you, Cam, Gina, best of luck

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Speaker 1: finding more dudes, and we'll talk to you later.